PLYMOUTH, N.H. – Call him the collector.
AP
Mitt Romney (R) speaks to workers at New England Small Tube in Litchfield, N.H.
Citing an appearance on NBC’s TODAY show -- shortly after President Obama's inauguration -- in which the president said if he hadn't turned the economy around in three years it could be a one-term proposition, Mitt Romney said, "I agree with that. And I'm here to collect."
He made the comments in a town hall here focused on the economy before a friendly crowd of about 60, mostly seniors, on this dreary stormy day. Most of the questions had to do with tax and energy policy.
Despite his criticism of Obama, Romney did say, "I know he loves America.”
In a speech more heavily peppered with personal anecdotes than usual, the governor quoted from a Samuel Walter Foss poem he found stirring, “The Coming American”:
"Bring me men to match my mountains / Bring me men to match my plains / Men with empires in their purpose / And new eras in their brains."
This morning Romney spoke to employees and reporters at a small tube factory in Litchfield, N.H., where he delivered sharp criticism of the president's current bus tour, which his campaign has called the "Magical Misery Tour."
"I think the American people would rather see him in Washington working on getting this economy going again," Romney told reporters. "He seems to be more intent on trying to save his job than to try and create jobs for the American people."
Asked repeatedly for his impressions about the newest competitor in the race, Texas Gov. Rick Perry, Romney did not directly critique Perry, but did once again underline his own private-sector experience in contrast with Perry's 26-year run in elected office of some kind.
"I can tell you that my jobs record is not just from four years as governor,” Romney said, “but from 25 years in the private sector."


Ouch.
That's the bitch about fancy talk and flowery words... they can come back to bite you in the ass.
Or as our good old buddy Carter used to say "we are the ones we have been waiting for."
Good gracious, what a load.
I suspect we are going to get a steady dose of all of Obama's grand talk. Not good for him. Not one bit.
OUCH!!! indeed.
Maybe Obama gets a "do over"?
Hey, at least he got the whole "stopped the seas from rising" thing right.
Oh and I don't remember what he said about global warming, but gosh dang it, he fixed that one right up.
Say, any of you all recall what he said he'd do about them awful wars?
Obama's brand new buses. $1.1 million, apiece. He bought two just in case one breaks.
All for a 3 day bus trip.
I wonder what you get on trade in for those things?
um, we will be out of Iraq at the end of 2011, by the way that was Bush and the Iraqi Government plan in 2008, but it seems Obama took credit for it. Now if we don't leave by Jan 1 2012, he WILL blame Bush, I would bet on that. As for AFG, he upped the ante, which I totally agree on, but forgot to change the ROE, to kick their asses not get them hugs. We got our noses bloodyed and now the Liberals want to run like hell out of AFG.
Are they "Green" buses?
Is that true JAS1? A million per?
Come on I want to hear about their fuel economy. My beast gets a respectable 10 mpgs, but it's only 36 feet long.
I'm guessing Obama's got him a sweet Blue Bird Turbo Diesel, 42 footer, armor plated with rockets and all kinds of cool stuff.
Man am I J.
You know Biden is a train whore - why doesn't Obama take the train insead of mass polluters?
Hey - you all see that our Cali high speed rail is already 3 times over cost estimates? Just perfect.
High speed rail - a total joke. Suck that Biden.
Do what I say, not what I do!! Come on!!
"That's the bitch about fancy talk and flowery words... they can come back to bite you in the ass."
SPANKY, that's what we all have been saying about Obama for 3 years now! Enough Obama Talk! We need leadership and the Obama train not only left the station, there's no Engineer driving it.
The Secret Service has revealed to Talking Points Memo that the government has purchased two armored buses for use by President Barack Obama and Republican candidates in the 2012 presidential campaign and beyond.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/joshgerstein/0411/22_million_pricetag_for_Obamas_new_armored_buses.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20092460-503544.html
And the $1.1 million is before the SS installs the missile defense and DirecTv add-ons. And they'll need a really good GPS, you can get pretty squirreled around on some of those Iowa back roads.
Maybe Obama can sell them to the Koch brothers when he's done with them.
Didn't know the Federal government was into fulfilling the transportation needs of our candidates on the taxpayer dime. I thought that was what campaign contributions were used for.
Dude has a frigging plane!
I just hope he gets the X-Box upgrade.
Really, since when does the gov pay for transportation of candidates? Starting when?
Red, White and Blue, with a Greyhound painted on the side.
Michelle is not going to like this. Not one bit.
** SECURITY **
Holy smokers.... I read up to 1.16 without a liberal comment... Sumptins wrong here folks... The libbies are staying away from this one.... maybe they are having an emergency session at the DDI.
The President has access to two VC-25's (747's, i.e., AF1). Is he interested in farming one of them out to a GOPer? They'll have to slap some duct tape over the Presidential Seal on the side, but other than that they should be good to go.
Dennis,
Don't interrupt their circle jerk with facts,...or logic. It's a buzz kill the little blue pills can't cure.
And none other than JS1 is smack dab in the middle of it...
She's more than willing to work for those corn dogs... ;o)
LOL, the Repubs are having a good time. I guess it's easier to trash Obama, than say something good about the Repub, Presidential field.
Go for it.
Feisty, I believe she's called "the pivot man". so to speak.
That's right, Lucious. You've figured them out.
What is this, a Poopublican Pow Wow? Romney's here to collect alright, because corporations are people my friends.
As usual, JoAnna only reads the first line, and doesn't present the facts much less the truth.
Read the whole article. The busses were purchased by the secret service for use by ALL of the people they are charged to protect. They are not specifically for a candidate, they are for the President, whoever he or she may be. Agree with the current President or not, the person in the office needs to be protected. For that person to come to any harm would seriously imperil the country.
You complain about the planes, you complain about the busses, you complain about everything.
How do you rationalize two members of congress and one governor galavanting around the country and not doing THEIR jobs? We've certainly seen the mess THAT got us.
Sheesh!
I wonder where all of Romney's flowery quotes and words will see HIM in four years?! Will you be there to criticize HIM too?!
Ut Oh.... DDI must have called "last drink." Now the usual suspects show up and ruin the party.... Hey conservatives... ya'll can come over to my house... I'll break out the BBQ... Got some steaks and ribs we can toss on it... Libbies aren't invited.
[And none other than JS1 is smack dab in the middle of it...]
Actually, Spanky's the pivot man in this circle jerk...
...there's no place he'd rather be...!
[As usual, JoAnna only reads the first line, and doesn't present the facts much less the truth.]
Nothing new here...some old @!$%#, different day...
Hey Peter "Brianb" Brady,
No fear, libbies wouldn't come to your shindig if you paid us,...
PS. You guys roll through and lift your leg on any number of OUR threads, seems the neighborly thing to do is return the 'favor'. You can thank us later. Being grounded in reality is something you all should try out for awhile.
Nahh,...pumping Bachman up as Presidential is far more entertaining for US than it is for you, I am SURE!
So fielden - just who are the Secret Service commissioned to protect?
And of course "we'll" be there. In fact four years from now it'll be even worse. More news cycle, faster and more criticism flowing at cyber-speed.
Good times.
Oh and Clara Bell - you sure do seem to be up on circle jerks. Queen of the ball, so to speak, eh?
Nice.
And Brianb - the bloom is off, even, apparently here at the last bastion of Obama Cheer.
Rough times ahead for libbies. Bt the snarky fun will be great - right Feisty and Clara Bell? Oh yeah.
That's why I brought my spray paint for a change... payback really is a bitch isn't it BB? lol
They sure can dish it out - when it comes to getting a taste of their own medicine eh?
They whine like little school girls with a skinned knee..
Speaking of knees- hey JoAnna honey? How are yours holding up?
Clara, I've been reading this site for four years, I know all the players. I figured out Spanky and JAS a long time ago.
For the first time I actually agree with fielden.... if serious harm came to Obama... just LOOK at what we'd get.
Well it's nice to see you joined us - welcome to the mud-pit! lol
brianb DDI--Is that the Doo Drop 'in?
lol, Clara-
And...Feisty too!
"I refuse to let them spray their graffiti on OUR house!"
Remember when you said that, Clara?
Too bad.
Mark Murray says that First Read isn't YOUR house at all.
Mark welcomes ALL points of view.
Isn't that right, Mark?
Wow, the whiff of desperation [and a little decay] is getting pretty strong from the old gal.
Such a shame that she is heading for a minority, even here in MSNBC land.
Stunning how bad that is for her, and the Libs r us gang. Oh well, they'll always have their mythical hangout, where Obama is the king forever.
But sadly, here in the real world Clara Bell is reduced to talking about circle jerks and Feisty to dying on her knees.
You know ladies, rather than get down to this level of desperation, you all might want to consider just turning the computer off, if only for a little while.
fielden - You can rest assured if the next president is republican... I will criticize every bad move he/she makes, just like I do Obama. It's my country too. I live here and have to suffer through all the decisions made by our government. I have no party loyalty, therefore every president is an open to the same amount of agreement/disagreement concerning policies. If a policy is bad... I will disagree with it. If it's good... then I won't
Feisty, it's more entertaining reading these posts and doing an occasional post than arguing with MORONS. I hate wasting my breath on people that will walk in front of a bus, even when you tell them to stop there is traffic on coming.
That's our Repug friends. They are the true definition of crazy.
They would rather burn the house down than work with you to fix it.
2010 will go down in history as the year the Teapublican party mainstreamed crazy!
They are pretty fond of duct tape & sheet plastic though! ;o)
The power of rationalization is a scary thing. They can dish it out with imitation being the highest form of flattery. (The lack of originality is the problem conservatives have, isn't it? Stop stealing intellectual property.) Spray paint--excellent--LMAO!
Oh, Feisty, I'm a homey from Chicago.
Brianb: "Holy smokers.... I read up to 1.16 without a liberal comment... Sumptins wrong here folks... The libbies are staying away from this one.... maybe they are having an emergency session at the DDI."
I hear they are filling up the kool aid jugs, loading them in their cars and getting on the campaign trail with Obama. They want to make sure he only has worshippers in the crowd and no one asks him a REAL question. I heard a young woman stand up today and say" thank you, Mr.President, for telling us it will be alright." No one told her that Obama says alot of things that mean NOTHING.
Libertyforall - That's an AYEfirmative. ROFL! I used to think it was Dew Drop Inn... where all they served was Mountain Dew... then I changed my opinion to Due Drop Inn... where they collected cash for the clunker Democrat party... but yours is the more correct version.
*waves* to neighbor! ;o)
But, seriously, the Repubs are stuck on a mantra of tax cuts for the "job creators" and they been stuck on it for over 30 years, and it has yet to work. Every time we have had a Republican President in the last 30 years we have had a Recession. Look it up in the economic data folks. See if you can tell me how tax cuts for the "job creators" has created a jobs to the point of "full employment". Do the research, do the math.
Hi all, I just got home from work. Heard on MPR during drive time about the two new buses the SS ordered. Yes, they cost 1million dollars. According to the SS spokesperson, they had been leasing buses and then outfitting them with special security since the 1980"s. At the end of lease they had to remove all the high tech stuff and return to bus company. Very expensive. So it is cheaper to build two from scratch. It was waiting for the president when he landed at our airport in MN. It is all black, no seal, writing etc. It has bullet proof glass and tires, Thick steel frame and doors. The SS drivers had to go to school in Virginia to learn how to drive this thing in case of an emergency. Driving in reverse at high speeds was one of the test.
These buses will be used by president, vice-president and candidates.
Spanky, Trains and planes don't go to small towns and rural America for the last couple of decades. You should do a road trip across the US . Get out and see real America!!!
Brainb, Have fun at your grill out. Your invitation to have a drink on me at DDI is still on. That's the difference between Democrats and Tea party followers. :)
Ah Northstar - I used to spend every summer during the late 80's early 90's touring across country. I lived out of a motor home. Criss crossed the entire county racing. Those were great times.
And yet Obama and all the other candidates have somehow managed to tour small towns, without million dollar buses. huh?
So you're saying there's a signup sheet.
Joanna, Once there is a Republican nominee they get SS protection. I could see Bachmann, Perry taking a bus trip but not Romney.
If the Republicans are smart, they will adopt the maxim "Speak no evil towards any other Republican".
Besides, Obama will be doing lots of that - to deflect criticism of his own performance record - or lack thereof.
With such a dismal economic/jobs record, that's all Obama has left.
AKA Reagans 11th commandment.
If you watched the debate, it was easy to see why Newt flipped on the moderators. I was glad he did it, although I wouldn't vote for Newt. He is brilliant, but has the worst way of opening his mouth to eat his foot.
Peg corporate and the top tax bracket income tax rates to a function of the unemployment rate. Say 8 times whatever the unemployment rate is on everything over $5 million a year. There is your incentive to hire Americans here in the USA.
Paul, have you escaped from Dick Cheney's secret black ops army's undisclosed location, or did they brainwash you and release you to ultimately do their dirty deeds with full plausible deniability?? Of course if they had brainwashed you, you wouldn't really know the answer to that question, would you??
How did that comment get five positive votes? Cheney and his stooges haven't caught up with me yet.
As for "brainwash", anyone who is unaware that 9/11 was never properly investigated, is a clear example of mass hypnosis. They told the lie of 9/11 so often and for so long, unchallenged, that in the minds of the sheeple it became a false truth.
It got 5 votes BEFORE you started the 9/11 truther crap.
You are now ignored. Too bad you had a good idea and then proved yourself to be an idiot. You may want to google 9/11 and Popular Mechanics. It DEBUNKS ALL OF THE 9/11 DINGBAT ARGUMENTS
I have lots of good ideas. One of them, would be to PROPERLY investigate the mass murder of your fellow citizens. Properly, would involve subpoena power, security clearances for the investigators, and witness protection for the whistleblowers. None of which have been allowed to this point in time. If that is "truther crap" to you , then you are one of the Sheeple, or one of the people who agree with the concept of lying to the sheeple. If so, GFU.
No one can legitimately "debunk" anything unless they are put on the stand while under oath and penalty for perjury and then subjected to investigation and cross-examination of their "theories" and claims. Popular Mechanics always set up strawman arguments and mistatements of "truther" theories in order to win their false arguments on 9/11.
Then there's the poem "The Conning American"
Amy,
jealous of success, are we?
Why dont you lobby for Warren Buffet to 250 million to the government...
Man are these libbies gonna straight up blow a gasket when their guy lowers tax rates, gives an employer side payroll holiday and suts corporate rates?
Romney doesn't meet my criteria for "success." He never built anything in his life. Just scavenged for profit from the bodies of better men, like the venture capitalist vulture that he is.
Why do you think that? They haven't blown a gasket yet, why would they start now? It's all the fault of Bush, or the Koch brothers, or Grover Norquist, or Paul Ryan, or the Tea Party, remember?
But you're right, Obama has to pump more stimulus dollars into the economy, and hope his Liberal base doesn't see that he's not punishing the rich like he keeps saying he will do.
Brig it on Mitt. You have a record that will bring you down. But, you had better worry more about Slick Rick, the red neck cowboy.
Amy B,
And exactly what has Obama accomplished in the private sector? Aside from him being an associate attorney for 9 years, what businesses has he managed? Where is his business track record?? If you are judging people based on success, then please elaborate as to the successes that Obama built prior to becoming a politician.
Holy hell Batman.
Amy, a receptionist who is in a bit of a pickle when it comes to a viable retirement plan is critical of Romney about success. I truly don't think she has a clue about how money works.
But go Amy, it is damn funny. Rah, Rah...obama!
See JAS 1 they have blown a gasket. Go anywhere other than here. Libbie outrage is the new norm.
Poor Obama. Not a frigging prayer.
Malaise never looked so good.
Spanky,
There are more receptionists "in a pickle" over their retirement plans in America then there are venture capitalists sitting pretty on their ill gotten wealth.
And we vote.
Amy, you can ignore Spanky, he's a loud mouth. Never has any facts to back up what he say's. Just a typical Repug.
Spanky do you know how the economy works?
Spanky, all talk, all questions, no answers...
[Spanky, all talk, all questions, no answers...]
Yeah, but he sure do have him some opinion!
All well and true fellas, but it is a fact that Amy is a receptionist. It is also a fact that she is staring down retirement age with no retirement plan or funds.
These are very sad and unfortunate facts in and of themselves. But to then have Amy criticize Romney for not being a "success" is just ridiculous.
It also appears she has no understanding of the term "ill gotten wealth" which is exactly like the libbie understanding of things like deductions, exemptions and of course "loopholes." But I digress.
Oh and fielden and Lucious - I do have some understanding about the economy - you know running a business and all, employing 8 and 1/2 people. But perhaps more importantly I have implemented and executed a retirement plan since I was 19 years old. It has not always been easy, but at this point I am damn glad I stuck to it.
So you all were saying?
[I do have some understanding about the economy - you know running a business and all, employing 8 and 1/2 people. But perhaps more importantly I have implemented and executed a retirement plan since I was 19 years old. It has not always been easy, but at this point I am damn glad I stuck to it.]
Nice word salad...I call bull@!$%#...
Poor Little'Dickey - all angry - always it seems.
But it is sooo funny to watch Little'Dickey's meltdowns.
Bring on the rage Dickeyboy!
Amy----great reply---you go, GF.
Smiffy,
I told you, any time you want to kiss the baby, just ask..
BTW, where'd you go yesterday...you abandoned the thread as soon as some facts showed up...what gives? You're not an empty skirt like Spanky here, are you?
Hey JAS1 - back off. It's my pet and I demand undying loyalty.
Now having said that - I highly recommend that you get one of your own. Like I said before - I can't even get this kind of devotion from my dog.
Ok little buddy I'm right here. You ignore JAS1. Stay focused. :)
Fielden,
How do you rationalize two members of congress and one governor galavanting around the country and not doing THEIR jobs?
Their on vacation!
Not Perry!
And not Bachmann or Paul prior to two weeks ago.
Ok fielden - conjugate it, it's and its.
What are you and English major?
(sic) off.
" I do have some understanding about the economy - you know running a business and all, employing 8 and 1/2 people."
Here's to the 8 and 1/2 people who are really running the business (including the receptionist, I'll bet) while the "boss" spends all day on here entertaining us with his applesauce and bragging about what a success he is.
I guess I never realized that "success" was measured in how much contempt you have for people you consider beneath you.
[I can't even get this kind of devotion from my dog.]
That's because your dog hates you.
[Hey JAS1 - back off. It's my pet and I demand undying loyalty.]
Yep, it's obvious you, like Smiffy, aren't used to someone calling you out on your bull@!$%#, right Schpanky?
I do notice, however, that you have been posting your crap less and less since being called out on it...why is that? Oh, in case you don't recognize it, that is a question, which requires an answer, not "answered" with another question, got it "counselor"?
And by the way, insult any disabled veterans today, ambulance chaser?
The dolt is all yours Spanky. I just like to give his leash a pull every once in while.
It's odd you comment on how much someone else posts, because you seem to be one of the "cool kids" that doesn't let their history of posts show up on their vine home page. It's also odd that you even bother to keep track. You are one strange little dude.
Not contempt JoAnne. Simply put Amy has no business calling out Romney. The 1/2 is the receptionist. Ratrher than cutting cost and going with an automated system I did everything I could to keep her, which ended up sharing her with the tenats across the hall. Win win.
Oh and as you can see, there appears to be a debate about how much time I spend here.
JAS1 - Thanks. Just enough pokes to keep "it" going. I am a little peeved - it has taken to posting when I'm not around, about stuff unrelated to me.
That is not acceptable. So far today it is doing a fine job staying on focus. :)
Not "strange little dude."
Spanky's bitch.
Like I said, undying loyalty and focus.
Sometimes you just have to go with the tough love and take his chew toys away.
Naaa, let it have it's fun.
I suspect this is it's only source of amusement. Could you just imagine devoting so much of your time to following someone else's every word?
Flattered am I. Now don't take it's toys away, Let the little guy play till it's heart is content. Besides it's just an old libbie poster under a new name.
[Besides it's just an old libbie poster under a new name.]
BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT!
Sorry Schpanky, wrong guess...would you like to go for Double Jeopardy where the scores can really change?
But does Romney live in a house by the side of the road and is he a friend to man?
Awesome, Gail!
Perfectly said, Gail.
"I'm here to collect", what Romney really means is pony up some campaign cash, it's going to be a long campaign.
Obama will certainly NOT lower taxes, he pointed out today how absurd the folks he has to deal with in Congress actually are. Today, I listened to Bush's former Treasury Secretary support that tax loopholes need to be CLOSED, that revenue needs to INCREASE, that global warming is UNDENIABLE, that CLEAN ENERGY is something the FEDS should be investing in and helping to develop. GEE HE MUST BE A DAMNED SOCIALIST, huh?
Uh, "obama will certainly not lower taxes"...Again, right.
You did mean again, like the time before when he lowered taxes for the wealthiest 2%? Like that time, except, not again.
Until next month when he does that very thing. I know it will be totally "unexpected" as well.
Too funny.
Yeah... Totally absurd for congress to want to slow down spending and bring the budget in alignment. Why, gee whiz, that hasn't happened since the republican Congress did it in 1999
Spanky, do you mean the time he EXTENDED the Bush tax cuts because Congress was holding hostage the extension of unemployment benefits? THAT time?
Do you guys ever bother with the truth? Facts?
Oh, I see fielden - Bush came back in December 2010 and signed the law. Did he forge Obama's name, cause that's whose name appears on the actual bill. But then again, you already knew that.
Just like you already know that that Bush's rates ended by operation of law at that time.
Or was Bush behind the curtain holding a gun to Obama's head? Nope, he signed them and will enacted many more tax cuts in the future.
You best be bracing yourself for a whole new roundof disappointment.
Well, stumbling, mumbling mittens;
You also agreed with W when he gave his wealthy friends and supporters that huge tax break in 2001;
You also agreed with W when he un-balanced the budget President Clinton worked so hard to balance;
You also agreed with W when he re-instituted deficit spending for our nation;
You also agreed with W when he and his administration said, "deficits don't matter..."'
You also agreed with W when he decided to start an expensive, un=necessary war in Iraq by illegally attacking a foregin sovereign for no real reason other than he and his family were at odds with over oil and weapons;
You also agreed with President Obama's principals of health care when you enacted a similar program for your state ...
See, Mitt... it really doesn't matter to America what you may or may not agree with. You are an inconsequential and incompetent flip-flopper who would be detrimental to this nation.
sorry (no, not really.)
So you agree then Not as Stupid that having an unbalanced [or no] budget is bad, right?
And that deficit spending is bad, and deficits do matter? Also carrying on unnecessary wars is bad, as is attacking sovereign nations?
So you are pretty pissed at Obama, right.
I wonder Not as Stupid - do you find Obama to also be a big giant flip flopper?
You know on debt ceiling, wars, Gitmo. How about entitlements?
Spanky, you KNOW the answers to your questions. You are just choosing not to hear them. Are you really that dense?
Are you kidding me fielden? Have you not "met" me before this?
Of course I am this dense. Denser actually.
But then I am pissed - at them all. how about you fielden?
[But then I am pissed - at them all.]
ROTFLMFAO...you're a lying bag of @!$%#...you're pissed at the black man in the White House.
Gotta love the RACISM. Seriously. Since when is it not allowed to disagree with the SUBSTANCE of what he "believes" the governments role is.
I hope you don't vote Mickey, or I at least hope someone cancels out your stupidity based vote.
39% approval for Obama and trending down down down. The libs only have a few weeks left to get Hillary to run. She's the only "hope" for the party to maintain one branch. Send emails, letters, and donations Hillary 2012!
ahh, dear sweet, Rob in Massachusetts, how we haven't really missed your doom and gloom. But hey, good on you with the Beck talking points:
http://nation.foxnews.com/hillary-clinton/2011/04/04/beck-hillary-will-primary-obama
You do seem a tad late on the uptake; but you hit all the major bloviating issues, and with a straight face. Well played.
Clara,
[But hey, good on you with the Beck talking points...]
It must be a slow day over at Fox Nation and The Blaze, huh?
Sweet Fennel. :)
JAS=1, spanky, bob #'s, Leona, Rob, and all you other American President haters:
You act like you don't remember W's rules of engagement: (and I quote!)
"You can't get on your high horse, then take the low road...."
Now, STRAIGHTEN UP.
lol
So, Stupid... are you enjoying all the fun time barbs your president is getting? Do you like seeing his policies shredded by conservatives? Does it give you the warm fuzzies to know Obama is disliked by so many people? Does it make you question your choice? These sorts of questions came up during the last administration, only the shoe is on the other foot now. The only difference is Obama really is a nobody from who knows where... He hasn't done any real work in 2 1/2 years... and his progressive/liberal ideology has done more to harm freedom in this country than most other progressive presidents combined.
Oh my - they are now holding up Bush as a good example. How bad is it?
Must be really, really bad.
Do you mean the 1,000 people in this poll? Or the 800 in that poll? Or the 4,000 in the other poll? Out of the whole country...
No, doesn't bother me.
From you guys?
I love it!
VERY humorous as well as calming.
Reading your rants assures us of President Obama's next term.
I'm not talking about any poll fielden. I'm talking about the regular people on the street. I'm talking about Joe the Plumber.... I am going to be very honest with you... In my business I get to talk to a lot of diverse people. I never lead questions... but I always ask what a person thinks about the government... I have yet to meet more than 3 or 4 people that support Obama, out of hundreds that I've spoken to. I know it's not scientific... but the overwelming majority of those I talk to say they won't vote for him again. You got that... they won't vote for him again, meaning they voted for him the first time. My travels have taken me into at least 12 states, both north and south. I'm still trying to find the extra 7 states Obama says we have, but to no avail, I just can't find them. I was thinking the real supporters of Obama might be tucked away there. Oh well.
My point is... there are a very select group of Obama cheerleaders on this board... They read liberal news such as ThinkProgress.... For as much as the liberals have developed their own little world here, the reality is, there's a great big country out there that do not think like you do.
I certainly don't think Obama is the worlds next saint. But I have to admit many of these candidates from the republican side give me a lot of pause when i think about them.
1. Ron Paul- return to the gold standard????? Paper money unconstitutional??? A good portion of his platform consists of gold standard. I'm sorry, you really can't compete in today's economic world with a gold standard. WE can no more return to a gold standard then we can go back to mercantilism as a viable economic model. For me this is largely the tip of the iceberg.
2. Mitt Romney- Base line GOP before the tea party explosion. I know he is against abortion, gay marriage, supports school vouchers, blah blah blah. Most likely to do the least crazy things.
3. Michelle Bachmann-
This is just a grab bag. Granted no candidate will ever match what you want but truthfully, I don't think i'm being unreasonable in saying that the current candidates track records and recorded choices/speeches don't thrill me.
A democratic option to Obama would interest me more, failing that perhaps Mitt Romney.
"American President Haters"
You see unlike MONARCHIES WE ARE ALLOWED TO DISAGREE WITH THE PRESIDENT. Kind of like you did when you ran around for 8 years calling W "stupid, liar, hates black people, inbred" et al. That Obama acts like a King and we are all SUBJECT to his will is what WILL GET HIM DEFEATED IN 12.
What is good for the goose is good for the gander. If you don't like it take it to the Huffy Poo or other web sites. See I can be an a@$wipe like you too!
Thurind
Thanks for confirming your a troll. As an Independent I find your level of rationalization LAUGHABLE at best, intellectually dishonest at worst.
Thank heavens the Indies OWN this election. You and your hyper progressive friends will be kicked to the curb next year. That's a change I can believe in.
Definition of a Troll
In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into anemotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[4] The noun troll may refer to the provocative message itself, as in: "That was an excellent troll you posted". While the wordtroll and its associated verb trolling are associated with Internet discourse, media attention in recent years has made such labels subjective, with trolling describing intentionally provocative actions outside of an online context. For example, mass media uses troll to describe "a person who defaces Internet tribute sites with the aim of causing grief to families."[5][6]
I posted in response to the accusation that many people were here simply to talk up obama.
The information i posted was from the website on the issues. I ask you to tell me what of the opinion i posted is intellectually dishonest. I also ask you to address my post, not accuse me of trolling.
I have never and do not consider myself hyper progressive. That however is your opinion and you are entitled to it.
I did not personally attack anyone nor did i post off of topic within the scope of this discussion. Furthermore, I am not attempting to egg anyone on simply posting my opinion.
If posting opinions is trolling then we are all Trolls.
In other words, accusing a person of Trolling is a very serious accusation. I would appreciate it if you would defend your accusation with proof rather then rhetoric.
What i posted on each of the candidates regarding positions are based on votes, and stated platforms that they themselves have either said or done. On the Issues is a fair organization and simply reports votes or statements of candidates.
He already collected to the to the tune of a few billions of federal money to balance the texas budget.
'Bring me men..." Nice going, Wink. Cut out half the voting population.
I'm sorry Romney, Perry and Bachman need to speak in such testosterone-fueled imagery, but it's always been one of the 'hooks' for Republicans: 'We're manly men and our adversaries are not.'
Tiresome to the max. And it doesn't work anymore.
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Ultimately if you walk around with a tape recorder and record anyone's comments they will contradict themselves. Romney will find himself with his own foot in his mouth soon enough on many of his own promises if he becomes president.
All of these candidates are promising something they can't deliver.
A sunshine and roses overnight recovery of our economy and instantaneous return to economic boom times.
Oh they will promise but in the end i don't care if St Reagan himself rose from the dead..... our economy will not turn around the second a new person sits in the presidential office.
Barack better get ready for a non-existent two-term President. This coming January will be his third year and the economy will not be turned around. I hope Rick Perry collects on Barack's failure. Somebody with experience in creating jobs has to be at the helm of the ship and Barack has proven he doesn't have a clue as how to steer.
Obama has merely allowed the RE-peat-the-LIE-to-the-PUBLIC-ans to acquire enough rope to hang themselves with. They have sabotaged every effort to get the economy going again after they were complicit in its derailment during the Bush administration. The public is waking up to the reality that allowing $2 TTTrillion in the false profits, from the age of false prosperity, to continue to sit idle during the recovery , is grounds for forfeiture of those ill gotten gains. Use it or lose it; CAPITAL is supposed to flow through the economic system as currency. The time will soon arrive for Obama to make that point abundantly clear to us, them, Boehner, McConnell, and the SCOTUS.
obama loves America,never lol so hard in my life .lol lol
Poor ronmey, looks like perry is now the man he has to beat. Always the bride's maid never the bride. I think ronmey would be better as a democratic candidate. He should run in 2016 after President Obama's re-election as a democrat. Liberals don't care about your religion, your magic underwear or your sexaul preference. But the neocons/teabaggers and the bible thumpers down south will never vote for a morman.
No need to trash Obama. He does that to himself pretty well. Besides, how do you trash trash??
YOU so clever - did you think that up all by yourself or have assistance?
Really, in progressive terms you recycle. But apparently you use the land fill. Clearly the Republican party as well as the Democratic party understand recycling because it is very apparent that trash is reused! Honestly, just look at some of the Republican candidates in this election!
23 Democratic Senators up for re-election this cycle. Only three of those seats needed to win a majority in the Senate.
Looks like a repeat performance of last November, but on a much larger scale.
Watch the show as all those in congress with the dreaded "D" after their names try in vain to distance themselves from Obama and his failed policies. Hilarious.
Technically, three only gets you to 50. Biden is the tie breaker.
But, yes, it may be a tough row to hoe. I think you lose MA, though. I feel pretty sure you're gonna' get Missouri's Dem. Really, not all of the opposition/candidates are in,...so it may come down to candidate by candidate.
If you guys keep running Sharon Angle and Christine O'Donnell types,...I don't think it's as easy as you think it will be. Time will tell.