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Subscribe to RSSEUREKA, Ill. -- Sarah Palin told NBC News that Rep. Michele Bachmann winning the straw poll will not affect her decision to run or not, calling her win "not much of a surprise."
"It is not much of a surprise," Palin told NBC News. "I think, at this point, it is more of a test of organization. ... The prediction was that it would either be Ron Paul or Michele Bachmann, because they spent a lot of time and energy to make sure they had delegates there who would cast those votes, so not really a surprise. It's a part of the process, another step, again, a test about organization at this point and many more contests up ahead."
Sarah Palin's bus tour arrived at the Iowa State Fair on Friday, fueling questions about whether the former governor plans on making a run for the White House in 2012.
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Palin is like Fonzi after the shark jump.
Liberal comments don't count. We know you are voting for Obama... so your choice is ALREADY made.
Now the real test comes from those who will have to make a choice... Will you vote Obama or will you be part of history by voting for the first woman republican nominee? If it comes to that... and don't say for sure it won't.
If the 21% of liberals won't vote for Bachman... then there's a good possibility that the other 79% will... because of the 79%, 50% of them are women... I wouldn't discount Bachman at this point. You can ridicule her all you want, but she's a serious contender.
BrianB, You must be fantasizing. NO LIBERAL, man, woman, or child would ever, ever, even vaguely consider voting for Bachman, Palin, or any of the other clowns that appeared in that circus in Ames. If your thought process is representative of the mentality of the conservatives, than Obama, regardless of what you think of him, will be the easiest shoo in to be reelected in the history of this nation.
Danny,
We all know that liberals are much smarter than conservatives. The only problem with them is, like many highly intelligent people, is that they are insane. Einstein defined insanity as doing the same thing and expecting different results. Liberals have been on the anti-poverty bandwagon since 1964 and we still have the same percentage of people in poverty.
I am really sad that the Republicans can't come up with a Reagan. This country needs a huge change in direction. Government does not produce any wealth, it only consumes wealth. It has nothing except what it takes away by force from people who do produce wealth. If I ran my house like the government runs, I would lose my house and everything I own and be in jail for fraud.
@BrianB...you can't say all women are going to vote for Bachmann. It's like saying all mixed race folks are going to vote for Obama. We all know that's not true.
I just love stirring the pot. I can't say who will vote for who. All I do know is that the liberals feel Obama is a shoe-in because he won last time. Well, a lot has changed since then and most of it is for the worse. For as much as liberals love Obama, it's not the liberals that will decide this coming election. It will be the independents and for as much as the liberals have banded together, the liberals have fallen way off. Liberals can not speak for the independents, no matter how hard they want to. Independents are really sick of high unemployment, a failing economy and a president that makes excuses for everything under the sun... and takes zero responsibility.
Brianb-999431
.you can't say all women are going to vote for Bachmann
Not all women are submissive housewives either; like crazy eyed Michelle Bachmann
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[I just love stirring the pot.]
Sooo...you're just a troll from FoxNation or The Blaze? Sweet gig!
Brian, you seem to be hung up on "liberals"...do you even know what the definition of a liberal is? Or that there is a difference between a democrat, liberal, and progressive just as there is a difference between a republican, conservative, and teabagger?
...something tells me you are in the dark on this...maybe it's time you turned on a light switch and stop making an idiot of yourself with every post by throwing the term "liberal" around like you're insulting some here...this is not the 1960's anymore.
...or you could just keep on keepin' on and everyone can continue to laugh at you.
Republicans have also been living their own version of insanity..."Let's cut taxes for the rich so they will provide jobs and it will all trickle down". The rich get their tax breaks, and STILL send the jobs overseas ANYWAY. Then by making the middle class support most of the tax burden, and companies like GE pay ZERO, then the Rethugs go and start a couple of wars, and don't "put them on the books"...hoping no one will notice.
These greedy, delusional, war-mongering thugs haven't done the American people right either. At LEAST Reagan had the GOOD SENSE to realize he needed to raise taxes, despite it being distasteful. His withering hatred for the poor though...he made no attempt to disguise it by calling black women "Cadillac welfare queens", as if all poor black women on welfare were "playing the system".
I hope Palin runs. Perfect chaos in the party with NO message. Why a single middle class citizen would vote Republican is the mystery - it's like voting for your demise.
Sounds as if Palin is a bit jealous. This female would not vote for Bachmann or Palin or any other similar women. There are intelligent republican women but it isn't represented with these two.
Whoever runs against Obama will understand that government over regulation sends jobs to China.
SHE will also understand that America's best days are ahead not behind, that energy independence comes from North American Oil balanced with affordable new sources not just the sun, wind and water.
This is of course unless he is from Texas.
Whoever it is will beat Obama really really strong.
I wish Sarah Palin would simply go do something productive with her time. As for Bachmann, I would rather have a grill cheese sandwich for the Republican nominee.
The fact the these two remain "darlings" of the GOP is, frankly, embarrassing.
Oh Pa;in is doing something useful, getting ready to jump in without having to be in the debates.
Hey, my other name is........."grill cheese sandwich".....really!!!
I believe in moral values, God, heaven, reaping what you sow, the word "fair", family, and your level of success in life being determined by what you put in to being successful and that would be an individually taylored definition of one's own standard for success, no "Joneses", so no need to try and keep up, an eye for an eye, meaning if you intentionally kill someone then your punishment is to be killed(only cut and dry cases), loving mankind no matter what color, no hand-outs(a man that doesn't work shouldn't eat), NEVER INTENTIONALLY HARM A CHILD, 1 man/woman 1 vote, no illegals, jobs with benefits and salary to have a decent standard of living FOR EVERYONE, states rule by laws that are ethical, no companies "TOO BIG TO FAIL" and if they do NO HAND-OUTS or BAIL-OUTS from taxpayers, and help those in need w/o making them dependent on that help!!!
That's the political agenda for candidate "grill cheese"!! :)
DFR - I have another wish. I wish Obama would do something positive for this country. So far he has taken us so far down the hole, it will be almost impossible to dig our way out of it. While you complain about a person that's not in the fray, how about paying attention to the person doing all the damage. Is that too much to ask?
"how about paying attention to the person doing all the damage"
That would be 'persons', as in Mitch, John, and Eric.
Pay attention.
If you don't like handouts, love, don't you think it is about time our government should quit subsidising the billions in profit oil industry?
Or how about the tax cuts for the corporations that moved jobs overseas? Republicans are for rewarding these companies with less tax.
You couldn't mean those kind of hand-outs that Bachmann and the republicans supports.
I'll take the grilled cheese also much better for our country.
Well said. Thank you.
Cat fight! Cat fight! where's the popcorn?
To all the Yahoos voting in the TEA/GOP straw poll and in the primary for any TEA party backed - Do not waste your money on these candidates, none will win against president Obama. TEA party going down! GOP going down! Happy days to come in 2012!
Does this mean you think that mortgaging our grandchildren for $47,000.00 that they have to pay back is Happy Days. Or maybe you're not worried about it because you and your family are on the recieving end of "wealth re-distibution".
I am 64 and have worked and payed taxes all my life and I really don't appreciate Obama and the Democrats giving billions to corporations and unions when all I have is my Social Security to look forward to and what I have put away of mine own money. Now they want to cut my Social Security and Medicare so AIG execs can get multi-million dollar bonuses and government workers can retire with $100,000.00 a year pensions. Remember, it was a Democratic Congress and President Johnson that made Social Security contributions part of the general fund.
well, craig...you need a quick recent-history recap: 1. all you have is social security to look forward to"? thank the democrats for at least that. the republicans were against that too. 2. "obama and the democrats giving billions to corporations and unions"? obama's administration HAD to bail out several industries due to bush's (and the republicans') deregulating of those industries or this country along with the rest of the world would have collapsed into a depression. the money lent to the auto industry saved it along with many thousands of jobs. i believe that money has been repaid. please let us know what billions of dollar you are referring to that obama gave unions? haven't heard that one before. 3. so you really think obama wants to cut your social security and medicare so that aig execs can receive large bonuses? the repubs basically forced obama to consider ss and medicare cuts as a part of the deficit package or they would not have voted for the debt ceiling increase (something that allows the country to pay for its PAST purchases (i.e. it has nothing to do with future budgets...but the repubs connected to two anyway). 4. i don't even get the point of your last sentence. so what?
Craig, I am close to your age and in the same boat. My grandchildren right now are being squeezed by the lack of commitment by state and federal government to invest in education for our children to prepare to live in a global economy.
Social Security has been reformed in the past to insure that all future citizens have a base income for their retirement years. yes the money coming in from SS with holding tax is part of the general fund, but these receipts make Social Security solvent for many years to come. If need be the politician can make some minor adjustments to keeping going for the next generations.
I am a Democrat and do not think the Republicans and tea party folks have any solutions except more spending cut, but never any new revenue to begin to attack our deficit spending. They have no job plan to get get us out of the lingering recession.
They main concern has been to stop Obama at every turn. They are not interested in a balanced approach for any of the problems that face our country, only extreme belief in shrinking government so it can fit in a bathtub, according to Grover Norquist who they have pledge allegiance to ,to never increase any form of new revenue.
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Northstar... For as many times the democrats have said the republicans want to cut Social Security, it has never come true. Wanna know why? Because the Republicans do not want to cut your social security and medicaid.
The republicans do want to stop Obama. I as an independent, want to stop Obama. I want to see him out of our lives. I do not see him as flattering and his policies have created major damage to capitalism and real wealth building. I'm not talking about all the swagger the liberals put on corporations and their tax shelters... I am talking about Obama's slow, methodical take over of the private sector businesses. Did you know that an additional 1200 pages of federal regulations have been written against private sector businesses? How is this good for freedom? How is this good for generating new business and getting people back to work?
For as much blame as has been put on the Bush administration for the damage to the economy, how come we haven't seen one iota of improvement? It can't be as the liberals say... that it took Bush 8 years to get us here... and Obama hasn't had enough time... that's a crock. Not one indicator is showing real sustainable improvement. I'm sorry you may disagree with me, but take a look around. Things are not getting better.
Brianb-999431
For as much blame as has been put on the Bush administration for the damage to the economy, how come we haven't seen one iota of improvement?
Because you're in denial
Don't forget the Republican/TP Inc. party deliberately blocking anything that would help the country recover, Beverly. Remember, they want the country's economy to stay in the tank until next November so that they can point to it, blame the Democrats, and try to use it to win the election.
One problem with that tactic is that people are starting to see through their tactics, and are rejecting them. Remember, the Democrats in Congress may have a low favorability rating, but the Republican/TP Inc. party congresspeople have an even lower rating.
If you speak Spanish instead of English, get your useless lazy arse back south of the Rio Grande and quit living off the US taxpayer. Obama's a Commie and those who support him are imbeciles.
Craig, who are you going to vote for then. You rail about "Obama giving things to corporations and unions"...The Rethugs MO is to give away goodies to the rich and corporations on your back and mine and they have done so ever since "the glory days" of Reagan, so please don't go blaming OBAMA for this.
The only reason we workers even HAVE health insurance, vacation, sick leave is because SOME UNION got it for us. The Rethugs want to get rid of the unions so we can go back to child labor, slave labor, and unsafe factory conditions.
The corporations claimed "oppressive regulation" for moving their oil and chemical operations elsewhere. The truth is, they moved them to countries that had universal health care, so it was off the books. They also moved operations to countries with lax environmental regulations so they could pollute all they wanted to. Now, with higher cancer and asthma rates in these countries, they are getting tired of that and are now mandating rules stricter than what we have here.
The regulations in Brasil are stricter than they will ever be here, but that country's oil industry is BOOMING and they are actually seeing an emergence of a middle class and all levels of society are bettering themselves from the oil revenues. So the snot nosed whiney assed Republican mindset of "job killing" is baseless. It's especially sickening coming from so called Christians who don't see a moral imperative not to turn their own planet into a toilet and sicken people with toxins.
Well said lemur lady! Not to mention the so-called "christians" who seem to deny the teachings of Jesus by not loving their neighbors (e.g. LGBT, moslems, poor, elderly, children, anyone "different" from them). It is interesting that they think they can love God (First Commandment) but hate their neighbors (Denial of the Second Commandment). Jesus said these were the most important commandments. He also said "that which you do for the least of them, you do for Me." There is a moral imperative to care for the less fortunate and most vulnerable. For many of these people, "sanctity of life" ends at birth!
the sad shame of it is...people have allowed their party(gop) to become so marginalized that an Ike, Nixon or maybe even a Reagan could not win a repub nomination to even get in to a general. your only chance gop is with a pawlenty, huntsman or romney(that is before corporations are people too my friend, if he would have worded it differently, he could have tap danced around it) but I really do not give the gop credit enough to do the reasonable thing.I tend to agree that obama is highly beatable for the right person, but ONLY the right one. if obama would have sent the stimulus directly to the middle class who have paid taxes their entire working lives, or given a public option with obamacare, he would have been a shoo-in, but he chose corporations so it is what it is. if he would have had a better plan and followed through he would not even care who the repub nominee would be.
bachman only won with 4600 votes give or take.come on, across the whole state and you media guys make a big deal of this? we have districts that it takes more votes to win it.
You know, not everything that comes out of Palin's mouth is news. You can stop transcribing her every word for us any time now, really.
She's a gooood girl, she loves her mama, love JEEEEsus and America tooo
she's a good girl, she should go home to her husband and submit to him and get covered in...
No liberal should be allowed to vote, period, because all the ignorant Jackasses stand for is abortion, gay marriage, tax hikes to fund social giveaways to economic parasites like welfare cheats and illegal aliens, military cowardice in the face of global Islamofascist terrorism, atheism and Marxist "wealth redistribution", as if any of those acts of lunacy will create any private sector jobs or lower the cost of living for working people. The last Democrat with the cajones to do the right thing, was Harry Truman, when he ordered the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki to end WW II.
Funny how 90% of the Jackasses who call Bachman and Palin "stupid", never completed high school, and certainly don't have MBA's or JD's, which makes them too incompetent to judge the economic soundness or legality of an 8 year old kid's lemonade stand. Where does the Constitution spell out enumerated rights to abortion, welfare, gay marriage or create special "bonus" rights for Spanish-speakers that English-speakers aren't afforded? Obamacare is unconstitutional, abortion isn't "health care" and Obama's not legally the President because his Hawaiian "birth certificate" is a forgery: time to impeach the Commie!
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OMG! Make him STOP!!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!
Either you are the STUPIDEST person in the world, or you are deliberately trying to get a laugh.
Matthew--I think stupidest, though he has a lot of company in his boat.
Considering most Republicans are inbred, racist, functionally illiterate, uneducated yahoos from the South where they wrap themselves in the Confederate flag...please don't dare call liberals stupid.
Your anti-intellectual ideas clearly show your unwillingness to broaden your mind. Even as a lawyer, it's clear law school didn't teach you how to think. Maybe you are an Oral Roberts alum like Bachman.
Republican lawyer made me laugh so hard.
Either you are a physic channeling Palin and Bachmann or you managed to get all that delusion all on your own.
Well, Republican Lawyer just proved why lawyers are the brunt of so many jokes--a birther? Seriously, a birther? Maybe that law degree is a forgery.
The concern about $47,000 debt left to our grandchildren pales in comparison to the thousands of young lives our government has been willing to sacrifice over the years in wars.
Blogging is fun, making 'brilliant comments' is fun; but we will never change things if we get stuck on the same talking points. Many of you are very bright people. Someone once scolded me by saying: "Anyone can tear down, what can you build"?
What can you build?
to MI/LAWYER: with enlightened views such as yours, it is obvious you would have been on the losing side in the 'war for independence'
The REPUBlawyer is the only one on here not afraid to speak the truth...way to go.
RepublicanMILawyer, wow, you just proclaimed how looney the Tea Party/Repubs really are, full of hate and outright lies. Still a "birther" and you claim to be a lawyer? You have no idea about the education level of any of the posters here, and if you are a lawyer, did you get your JD at Oral Roberts now defuct Univ. too? I suspect you are a troll from Faux News gang. What rubbish you spout!
Perry outgaining Romney as a write-in candidate is a surprise. Sarah is so envious of Michelle--her hair and makeup, her even larger family than Palin's. Oooh, it makes her want to stamp her foot and pout!
Fancy That---The camera isn't pointed in Sarahs' direction enough right now. What should she do? Well, the T.V. show was a dud. That was hilarious though. Rock climbing with French nails? She might as well have been wearing spiked heels too! Is it too late to have another baby? One more book? Nah, even Tea Party people can only stomach so much.
I think the most attention getting thing she can do right now is say something really stupid. What? She's already doing that on Fox news every week?
I know, how about another History lesson? I know what you're thinking, that won't work either, Republicans don't like History.
Oh well, I'm sure she and Todd will come up with something. The Tea Party is counting on it.
"Are we better off now than we were before" some of us know that this remark is attributed to RR, I am almost positive that he got if form somewhere in literature. The importance is the message not who gets the credit for saying it.
There are two schools of thought about our current president. The liberal side thinks he is doing a fine job and needs more time and our money to make his and your vision work. The conservatives are not sure if he has a grasp of the situation and is completely bewildered and unable to put forth an action plan, or his plan is to destroy our freedom and our economic system.
Either way we have the same reslut, I am not better of today than I was yesterday, my government is taking away more of my money and freedom.
We all need to move our chairs back way from the desk, walk away from our key boards and do something besides call the other person names or belittle their ability to think.
Get out there and take action! We have a represnitive democracy-free enterprise econmic system. That is where it is at.
There has never been a nation that lasted more than a few generations that let its central government takeaway the treasure and freedom of the citizens, soon we may have the barbarians and despots slaughtering us in the streets, just for what we are doing right now, speaking or minds.
We are moving in that direction now at a greater speed than in the past. We are letting the federal government have too much ability to spend and not demanding accountability from them for what they do.
You act like the federal government is a person on its own like a corporation, all the rights and none of the responsibility.
The congress votes as to the direction of the government, so I think we should look to our congress members for accountability. If you voted for a republican that pushed through the tax cuts knowing that the government would have to borrow money to replace that money. Then that same republican voted to go to 2 wars (more borrowing) and still thinks to this day that we can't raise taxes on the richest, I think that is a person you can hold accountable by not voting for them to stay in office.
You don't blame some shadowy government and continue to vote for the real person who caused our problems.
Then you come on here and repeat the lie about the government taking more of your money during 10 years of tax cuts.
"There has never been a nation that lasted more than a few generations that let its central government takeaway the treasure and freedom of the citizens" This sounds exactly like the move the republicans have made on the unions taking away our fundamental right of bargaining. These same republicans think that the most important thing our country can do is give more tax cuts to the rich.
I know killing the middle class and breaking the backs of the union and protecting the rich from tax increases are much more important than a healthy America. Especially to Norquist and his rich friends that want to kill the government that's in their way of raping American unchecked.
The Taliban are saying "Tea Partiers will be an easy duck hunt"
Bachman just got slam dunked by David Gregory on Meet The Press with her own quotes from the past. I thought she was going to break down and cry and pound her fists on the table.
This broad cannot run from her past and it is finally starting to catch up with her.
Hopefully that clown Perry is next. R.P. is the only viable candidate to lose a bid for president.
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Please simply go to these, and ANY other search engine websites and enter Ron's name in the search bar and press search. This is a FREE way to support Ron Paul in 2012.
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Ron Paul is republican teabagger and disqualifies him to be president of the United States.
He doesn't represent the American people. He only represents republican teabaggers.
Republicans = teabaggers
Republicans = for corporations only
Republicans = anti-amierican.
The American people need to really comprehend that the republican teabagger goal IS to dismantle the U.S. Government from WITHIN and PRIVATIZE FOR PROFIT EVERY safety net program the American people have put into place to pay million dollar corporate welfare bonuses off the backs of the American people to select CEO's that TAKE OVER the AMERICAN PEOPLE'S MONEY.
If programs collapse when private companies roll the dice on wall street WITH the AMERICAN PEOPLE'S MONEY, and LOSE EVERYTHING the American people will suffer MORE and the government will have to bail out the American people, AGAIN.
Privatization of safety net programs is CODE for privatizing for profit the American people's money and fleecing the American people.
We've seen the death panel insurance companies how they denied health coverage to sick people but most eager to collect premiums from healthy people.
If safety net programs are privatized and corporate welfare CEO's enjoy million dollar salaries and bonuses and it collapses, and I'm 70 years old, and all the money I've paid to them for my retirement evaporates after the collapse, what happens to the CEO's quality of living compared to what happens to my quality of living with NO MONEY?
Do market "adustments" mandate the CEO of a privatized safety net program mandate that he or she also "adjust" my retiement check?
Whenever I hear the term "modernize" (code for privatize) social security I only come up with one word for this madness ... THIEVES, stealing from the American people.
Can't. It's buried too far up your backside....
IT'S SIMPLE! Go to facebook.com type Thomasley Kipley DuGan 122 The person you are wanting, waiting for is there. Go ahead, don't be afraid. Nobody is for everybody
We have to start new. Someone that is different; has authority, force, love of the country, love of people and can deliver these things to the people and the people, most of them, will resound; yeah, finally we have someone. Well, there is a person. Do you have the ability to see?; when a person stated, is standing in front of you? There is a man, spirit, defined: study of the eternal principles- who is proposing the actual, something new, something different; not the same thing, the the lies, not the greed, not the selfishness, and definitely not the ego. facebook.com Thomas Kipley DuGan 122 -go there, and refrain from reacting. You think you are smart, intelligent?; go there.
Palin and Bachmann with their..... "FANNY VALUES" .... America isn't buying it !
Say it isn't so, you are correct.
Bachman rolled out the word "modernize" social security, medicaid, and medicare to Jake on TV this morning.
Modernize SAME as privatize.
THIEVES are trying to dismantle the U.S. government and privatize money that the millions of American people pay into for retirement EVERY PAYCHECK.
Don't let the republican teabaggers get a hold of elected office because they are after your money. You'll never see it again because the republicans and teabaggers want to TAKE your money from your paychecks but DO NOT WANT TO PAY IT OUT. How, you ask?
EXHIBIT A. Republican U.S. congressman John Boehner, Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives recently stated we need to raise the retirement age to 70 years old TO HELP PAY FOR THE WARS ! Anotherwords, the social security you paid into or are paying into YOU CANNOT collect on it before age 70 if republican Boehner had his way.
DO NOT vote for republicans !!
We need to take care of the elderly now, and the rest of us when we get there in the future.
Republicans are trying to THROW the American people AND THE ELDERLY UNDER THE BUS for GREED !!!
Obama: worst president in US history. The boy community organizer makes a complete mess out of everything he touches. Embarrassing the nation everywhere he goes. Spends trillions more than we have. Makes promises that have all fallen flat. Apologizes for the US everywhere he goes. Gives critically important jobs/positions to total incompetents. (Uh, Panetta, as Secretary of Defense... as unqualified for that position as Obozo is for president). He even LOOKS like a fool trying to sound serious. Flush the Washington toilet in 2012. Watch Obozo go down the drain... just like he's been taking the country for the past 3 years.