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The Globe’s Johnson says Mitt Romney and Bachmann won the debate.
The Minneapolis Star-Tribune: “Tim Pawlenty and Michele Bachmann were anything but Minnesota Nice in Thursday's night presidential debate. The former governor and current congresswoman staked their claims to the GOP presidential nomination in a series of tart exchanges as they stood side by side during the televised debate in Iowa.”
The New York Post also leads with Bachmann vs. Pawlenty.
The New York Times: “The debate ... came at a moment of increasing intensity in the Republican campaign. While the eight candidates were united in their criticism of Mr. Obama, with a particular focus on his economic policies and unemployment, the crosscurrents in Iowa overshadowed the larger issues in the race."
The Des Moines Register: “A full-out war of words broke out Thursday night as eight Republican presidential candidates turned on each other, jockeying for pole position in an ever-growing GOP field.”
More on winners, losers: “A handful of prominent Iowa Republicans interviewed by the Register thought former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich helped their causes. Pawlenty hurt himself with attacks on Bachmann, said U.S. Rep. Steve King, a western Iowa Republican. ‘He came out on the losing end,’ King said.”
Here are some of former Des Moines Register columnist David Yepsen’s thoughts: “LOSERS: None. ‘Nobody made big mistakes. They all did themselves well.’ BEST PERFORMANCES: Former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty and former U.S. House Speaker Newt Gingrich. Both were humorous and forceful, Yepsen said. OTHER THOUGHTS: Bachmann was a bit rigid and stuck to her talking points. However, she handled the question about a woman being submissive to her husband rather well. SURPRISE: Romney took rather few punches, surprising since he is viewed as the national frontrunner. ‘Nobody really laid a glove on him.’”
The Hill: “Former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty and Rep. Michele Bachmman (Minn.) had some heated exchanges and largely ignored the front-runner in the GOP field, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, in Thursday night’s Iowa presidential debate."
Stu Rothenberg is protesting Ames: “Last week, I canceled my room reservation for the week of the Iowa straw poll. I am not going to Ames. With Mitt Romney, Rick Perry and Jon Huntsman not participating in what is already an event of dubious predictive value, the Ames event became little more than an opportunity to consume large amounts of beef, gossip and alcohol with my fellow journalists. … The odds that the eventual winner of the Iowa straw poll will be the GOP nominee next year are quite small (though not zero). … it is very hard to make the case that this year’s poll is a crucial test in the race to select the Republican nominee for president.”
BACHMANN: “Republican Michele Bachmann isn’t ceding ground in her Iowa birthplace to probable presidential rival Rick Perry,” AP writes. “Bachmann said yesterday she will appear at a GOP fund-raiser in Waterloo on Sunday, the same event that will serve as the Texas governor’s Iowa debut. Both will speak at the Black Hawk County GOP Lincoln Day Dinner.”
HUNTSMAN: The Salt Lake Tribune’s Burr writes, “In his presidential debate debut, former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman defended his family business, his support for civil unions and whether he even belonged in the Republican field seeking the White House. Attempting to give a jolt to his stalling campaign, Huntsman cited his record in Utah and swiped at his fellow competitors for staying silent as the country was on the brink of defaulting.”
PAWLENTY: Roll Call’s Toeplitz leads with Pawlenty: “No more Mr. Minnesota Nice Guy. … Pawlenty had the most at stake in the lead-up to the Ames straw poll Saturday. Polls show him lagging, while Bachmann has overshadowed Pawlenty’s Iowa-or-bust campaign in recent weeks. Many Iowa Republicans say he must place in the top three slots in the straw poll to ensure his campaign’s survival.”
PALIN: GOP 12 notes: “Here's a fascinating number, buried in a new Fox News poll. By -3%, those who identify themselves with the tea party don't think Sarah Palin would make a good president. That's a shocking number, especially compared to the rest of the field.
PERRY: GOP 12’s Heinze looks at the case for and against Perry. He notes that “he floated the idea of letting states opt out of Social Security. Here's a big problem with Perry -- he'll be extraordinarily easy for Democrats to paint as being too extreme for America. Not only does he say controversial things, but he just seems so controversial saying them.”
The Texas governor was at an Austin TV station when the news broke of his planned Saturday announcement. (He even signed a copy of the AP newswire of the breaking news.)
Charleston's hometown paper points out that the last time a candidate made a presidential announcement in town, it didn't work out in the end.
The Statesman delves into the influence of RedState ahead of Perry's Saturday speech to its annual convention.
ROMNEY: The Boston Globe: “As a presidential candidate, Republican Mitt Romney says he opposes revenue-boosting tax increases. But back when he was Massachusetts’ governor, he bragged about them.” Politico first reported the news. “A question left unanswered by the Politico report is whether Romney was in the room for the presentations to the rating agencies,” the Globe, which obtained a second presentation, writes. “A June 3, 2005, memo to Romney from the Executive Office for Administration & Finance states that the governor was scheduled to join the presentation to Fitch after the first hour and would deliver remarks of 10 to 15 minutes.”
Romney in his back and forth with hecklers at the state fair, per left-leaning blog Talking Points Memo (and on tape): "Corporations are people, my friend. Of course they are. Everything corporations earn goes to people. Where do you think it goes? Whose pockets? People's pockets. Human beings, my friend."
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Obama can start with approving every Republican request since 2009 for federal money which they say will produce jobs in their districts.
http://brite.newsvine.com/_news/2011/08/11/7350614-rachel-maddow-the-secret-republican-stimulus-jobs-plan
this would be a act of compromise that Republicans would love.
Newt Gingrich had the best comment (putting Chris Wallace in place) but it was overall a resounding NO NO NO! They complain that Obama's not put forth a plan, but in reality haven't offered any solutions themselves - other than JUST SAY NO!
WAKE UP. Paul Ryan has a plan and they wouldnt even read it. The Dems/Obama do not want a Repub plan. It would make them look bad because tHEY DONT HAVE ONE. ( and they dont have a budget either!)
Ryan's plan WAS READ by the White House even I read it. What a joke of a fake plan, there were few specifics but lots of charts and graphs. His plan would have added $6 trillion to the debt.
Yeah, Jody, Paul Ryan's plan would have added $6 trillion to the debt and Obama wanted to add $10 trillion. We heard.
I quess I paid closer attention to the substance of the debate, rather than to the personal attacks.
One thing that struck me was the Republicans' relentless objection to mandatory health insurance. They talk as if people go without insurance because they WANT to risk bankruptcy from medical bills, or they WANT to go without medical assistance. People pass on buying health insurance because its not affordable! Talk about being out of touch with working people. Paying your doctor is the responsible thing to do. It's funny how close Libertarians come to the attitude of twelve year olds, "I'm not going to do what's right and you can't make me!"
As I was walking to work today, I thought about the Republicans' objection to forcing people to buy health insurance.They use the analogy to car insurance, however, if you own a body repair shop, and you see a fender bender happen on the street, you aren't beholden to rush up to the car owner and say "I'll fix that dent for you, and you can pay me what you can, when you can, or not." Doctors take a Hyppocratic oath to provide medical care, it seems to me, it's not asking too much to require citizens to insure their health.
Bachmann was correct last night about Pawlenty's record.He likes to call new revenue a fee rather that tax increase .
Amy as you well know the Republican/Tea Party tells a lie and keep repeating that lie until even they believe the lie.They are the Kings and Queens of spin.
RE-peat-the-lie-to-the-PUBLIC-ans..................Tea Party is no different.
Romney didn't increase taxes but he increased and/or added fees 18 or 19 times in Massachusetts. Pesky little detail.
Amy, the problem is one half of the country pays NO taxes and the Obama govt. wants the other half to pay for everyone. What do you think that will do for the taxpayer besides RAISE taxes? Obama wants to insure 30 million people who have NO insurance on the backs of tax payers.
I can't help but think of the movie Elmer Gantry when I see Rick Perry.
I just had to look up your movie reference, Sue:
Elmer Gantry (Burt Lancaster), a drunken, dishonest street preacher allegedly patterned on Billy Sunday, wrangles a job with the travelling tent ministry conducted by Sister Sharon Falconer (Jean Simmons). Thanks to Gantry's enthusiastic hellfire-and-brimstone sermons, Sister Sharon's operation rises to fame and fortune, enough so that Sharon realizes her dream of building her own enormous tabernacle. These ambitions are put in jeopardy when a prostitute (Oscar-winning Shirley Jones), a former minister's daughter who'd been deflowered by Gantry years earlier, lures Gantry into a compromising situation and has photographs taken
Yup! Sounds like a conservative politician!
Mark this down...
Bachmann vs. Pawlenty in 2014 for the Republican nomination for the US Senate seat currently held by Al Franken. Get your popcorn ready.
"Minnesota nice" means that in exchange for neighborly kindness, you are allowed a certain nosiness about one another's lifes, homes, etc. It's as if you are "one, big family". You share tools, offer food from the garden or casseroles, invite people to the lake home...in exchange you can comment on the neighbor's house ("I notice that the paint is peeling on your shutters on the west side of the house") or family ("Looks like your daughter's got a new boyfriend..") or mores ("Didn't see you in church last week..)
If you don't play the game, you're left out of the circle. Gov. Pawlenty has the nosiness down, but can't show voters his "kindnesses." Rep. Bachmann is confident of her own circle (the home-school, evangical crowd) and doesn't waste her time with anyone else.
Kate, Perfectly stated!! And if you live in a city like St. Paul, niceness means: the guy with the big snowblower will get up at dawn and do the sidewalk of the whole block before you make your first cup of coffee! when the blizzard hits, every teen will have fun digging out the cars on the block when the snow emergency is declared.
but if the Christmas wreath is still on your front door by St. Patrick's Day the neighbors will talk about you.
Now i get Bachmann's fascination with "slaves and master's" ....she is " a submissive"...she just stated that on TV .Her hus-bear is the dom .....lol ...kinky ..now that's real "Fanny Values" ! ..Can you see him in a leather harness and chaps ? Village People come to mind !
I have no gaydar what so ever. Hey, I didn't think Elton was until he said he was but all my senses go off when I see Marcus Bachmann. My hubby has excellent radar and last night he saw Rick Perry for the first time and the first thing he said was Perry's gay. He has yet to weigh in on Marcus but I expect the same opinion.
look up rick perry sex scandal ....10 plus pages !
We transplants to Minnesota Say that Minnesota Nice is "a mile wide and an inch deep"
TfromNY, Welcome to MN. but you stick around long enough you will lose your accent and if your marry a local you are in for life. :)
Bachmann, 'yields NOT to temptation'......Marcus is the temptation that she respects!
Kinky is a kind word to describe whatever Bachmann was trying to move away from!
Submit Bachmann, Submit!
MN nice means using such harsh language as gosh, darn it and shoot. MN has so much better to offer than these two.
Bailey Quarters, YOU BETCHA!!!
Bachmann was a bit rigid and stuck to her talking points. However, she handled the question about a woman being submissive to her husband rather well.
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No, I don't believe she handled it rather well. She didn't handle it at all. The question was framed appropriately. The question was not whether or not she was proud of her husband as a spouce or the Father of her children. The question was when you have one perspective and your husband has another perspective, is there anything within your faith that is going to lead you to default to the position of your husband.
She didn't want to go to school. He said she should. In her own words described her decision to do so as an act of 'submissivness' to the will of her husband. That is her description, no one elses.
You can call submissiveness 'respect' all you want to. That is all fine and dandy when you both 'agree' on something. This case is for those scenarios where you don't agree. Does any article of the faith you practice give him the upper hand in the decision that the Bachmann household will perform?
Asked. Not answered.
She didn't answer the question, but in typical fashion let the bemoaning of the crowd be the shield she would hide behind.
I think my favorite part was when Bachmann was trying to defend her record and she said, "I'm the one that introduced the Lightbulb Freedom of Choice Act!" Oh yes, the pressing issue of our time, lightbulbs. hahahahaa
David Yepsen proves once again why those in Iowa don't respect his political judgment. He was a relative hack at the Register (lazy is a term Democrats and GOP officeholders usually used to describe him). He would accept candidate's spin, and was clueless to being spun. His belief that Pawlenty won the debate, a view shared by no one else, is wishful thinking on David's part!
Da Noid, maybe Pawlenty, but Bachmann would never win a state wide race. Her 6th district was craved out for the most conservative voters.It will lose 100,000 voters when redistricting is finished.
Oh, I hope so. Gosh, darn it! Sorry for such harsh language, folks. Now, let's all go make a hot dish. That's a casserole.
So one thing they all agreed on and continue to denigrate is Obama and his healthcare initiative.
Every one of these hammerheads claim to be so in love with the U.S. Constitution. Well, all the rights they love to proclaim came as an afterthought in the way of amendments, you know the ones, free press, gun ownership and religion.
But the most basic and fundamental rights were worded into the original draft and never changed. Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I cannot help but believe that life also means health (how could you have life without it?).
Why do people never try to point that out and always try to change what it says with their twisted logic?
Republicans only love to refer to the Constitution. They don't actaully know any of it.