2012: Perry joke on secession: 'We can leave anytime we want'

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HUNTSMAN: He gets the endorsement today of Jeb Bush Jr., who writes an entry on Huntsman’s campaign blog.

PERRY: Per NBC’s Carrie Dann, the Texas Tribune digs up a 2009 interview in which Perry, talking Texas history to a group of tech bloggers in his office, jokes about secession. “When we came into the nation in 1845, we were a republic, we were a stand-alone nation,” the governor can be heard saying. “And one of the deals was, we can leave anytime we want. So we’re kind of thinking about that again.”

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Perry strategist Dave Carney talked to the Des Moines Register about accusations that the governor's suspected rollout is stepping on Iowa's straw poll: "Many of the fine folks have been in the race for months and some years and have been waging a pitched battle leading to this point. Their efforts will be rewarded Saturday in Ames."

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"And one of the deals was, we can leave anytime we want. So we're kind of thinking about that again."

You can't speak for all Texans, Perry. But, you are welcome to leave - anytime.

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Reply#1 - Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:16 AM EDT

Richard348249 remember there are lots of us Natives who would invite you to leave as well...we are ready to get out of the mess that politicans have made in Washington and would welcome the thought....hummmm now what did they call it...or better yet as Davey Crockett said, I am going to Texas and the rest can go to hell....

    #1.1 - Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:29 AM EDT

    We know how that worked out of Davey.

      #1.2 - Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:57 AM EDT

      You'll forgive us, Governor Perry, if we don't leave the light on for you.

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      #1.3 - Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:24 PM EDT
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      "After questions were raised about his remarks at the April rally, Perry repeated his contention that Texas had the right to secede, but historians say Texas has the right to break itself into five separate states — not to form an independent country."

      I've posted this before, during Texas' annexation into the United States they had the right to break into five separate states in the future. This would allow the US for future annexation of western and midwestern territories that could be admitted as free states. It was a way to evenly balance free vs. slave states in the union.

      Perry should know his history better, Texas doesn't have the right to secede even a Texas transplant like me knew that. Another note despite the majority of history books, the Texas revolution was not a battle for freedom and independence. The Texans, at that time Mexican citizens, rebelled against Mexico to avoid paying taxes and to allow slavery, illegal in Mexico, into Texas.

        Reply#2 - Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:31 AM EDT

        Oh well Rick, you know what they say: You can check out anytime you like but you can never leave! (Hotel California, the Eagles).

        However, please, please Texas boot scoot right on out of here, got to be the ugliest state I've ever been in by far, and yes, I still hold a grudge against Texas for the way they treated two of the finest musicians ever - Janis Joplin and Stevie Ray Vaughan, if they can't even appreciate great music you know they don't have enough sense to do anything else right.

        So Rick and company - please don't let the back or front door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya on your way to Mexico.

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        Reply#3 - Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:50 AM EDT

        And it was transplants who fought and died at the Alamo for Texas.

          Reply#4 - Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:53 AM EDT

          Rick Perry is a fraud and a liar. He does not have an inside track to "GOD", He is using that as Campaign stratedgy. Texas is facing a shortfall in the budget of $24million dollars. Healthcare and education ranks near the bottom of all States. He is part of the "good ole boy gang" Check out his college transcript. He is not intellectually capable of leading the Nation. He would be the perfect puppet for the Tea Party. Do we really need that? No President is a superman, nor can they work miracles. Speaking of miracles, Perry prayed for rain and we are still in a severe drought. Perry prayed for our Nation and on Monday the dow dropped 634 points. I am not saying that Perry caused any of this, I am just pointing out that he has no special powers.

            Reply#5 - Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:55 AM EDT

            This Yahoo, Perry, is a discredit to the Texas governorship!

            MEMO to all voters:
            Perry's greatest accomplishments in Texas:
            A 34 billion dollar budget deficit
            Texas Ranks #1 in population living below the poverty line ( 17.2 % ).
            Worst environmental record in the United States
            Ranks #1 in illiteracy
            Ranks # 1 on the poorest gun regulations in the US and highest per capita gun murder rates in the US
            Ranks #1 with the highest real estate taxes per $1,000 value of a home in the United States
            Ranks #1 in the lowest high school graduation rate
            Ranks #1 with the highest interest rates “pay day” companies can charge
            Ranks # 1 in those making below minimum wage
            Ranks 50th ( dead last ) in Teacher Pay
            Ranks # 1 (26.5%) who lack health insurance
            Ranks # 1 (20.3%) of children who lack health insurance
            Ranks # 1 in the highest per capita executions in the world
            Ranks # 50th in $ spent for Medicaid for the poor and children
            Ranks 50th ( dead last ) in $ spent on its citizens
            Ranks # 1 in the # of food insecure children.
            Ranks 49th ( the 2nd lowest ) in Medicaid $ given to nursing homes
            Ranks 2nd highest in teen births
            Ranks #2 with the highest home insurance rates
            Ranks #2 with the highest sales tax
            Ranks 49th in $ funded for the mentally ill
            •Ranks #1 with the highest overall pollution rate
            •Ranks #1 in adults under correctional control
            •Ranks #1 in adults under probation

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            Reply#6 - Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:12 AM EDT

            Thank you, Soros Monkey, for your spam.

              #6.1 - Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:18 AM EDT
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              Rick Perry and Texas can leave....maybe, I am not sure of that. However, if they can leave, there are many considerations that the Texas windbag should consider. For instance, whose currency would they use? Certainly not ours, as they would be a foreign country, they would have to make their own, does TExas have that much gold? Then there is the problem of immigration, the border between Mexico and Texas, and if Mexico, or drug runners wants to take TExas does TExas have the military resources to stop them, as our military would have to leave.

              As with all wind and Tea party members, they talk a great talk, but have no real iea as to what it is they are doing.

                Reply#7 - Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:13 AM EDT

                Perry was joking about secession. Zealots have no sense of humor, that is clear.

                  #7.1 - Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:19 AM EDT
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                  As a native Texan I didn't find anything funny about Perry's "joke". I love my state but have no intention of living in the country of Texas over the USA. The thing is, he wasn't joking he was trying to score political points with the tea party, maybe he did. But he also pissed off a bunch of texans who consider themselves americans before texans. Saying it was a "joke" now is the same thing as when some dumbass says something insensitive and then says oh I was only kidding, no you weren't you just forgot who your audience was.

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                  Reply#8 - Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:49 AM EDT

                  Perry has stated this before, and it did not sound like a joke. Zealot Tea party extremeists do not joke, and that is exactly what Perry acts like.

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                  Reply#9 - Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:50 AM EDT

                  Lets get this straight. It's a joke when he's talking to 85% of the country, he's serious when he's talking to the 15% of tea people. Just depends on who his audience is. Just like everything else with poor old Rick.

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                  Reply#10 - Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:14 PM EDT

                  Like I tell my kids, it's a joke when everybody laughs. Somethings we don't "joke" about.

                    Reply#11 - Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:11 AM EDT
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