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Subscribe to RSSDES MOINES, Iowa -- Tim Pawlenty helped kick off the start of the "Values Voter Bus Tour" outside the state capital here this morning. But the most notable presence in the crowd were not Pawlenty supporters, rather supporters of Texas Gov. Rick Perry.
About 20 Perry supporters -- dressed in Texas Longhorn burnt orange shirts -- were at the event handing out Perry literature and talking to media about why Perry should be the GOP nominee. (There's a bit of irony here, however, considering that Perry went to Texas A&M, not the University of Texas. There's no love lost between the two schools.)
They are part of the group "Americans for Rick Perry," a 527 group that has no official affiliation with the governor.
After the event, Nate Crain, national finance chairman for the organization, said the goal for the Ames straw poll is 150 to 200 write-in votes. Regarding the Texas governor's schedule this weekend, Crain said, "He's not trying to mess with the straw poll, because if he was trying to mess with the straw poll he would just come out and say, 'I'm running for president.'"
Americans for Rick Perry is a six-week old organization, which has been a presence at campaign events throughout Iowa. They will be following the Values Voter bus tour.
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Why doesn't Bush III just announce his candidacy already?
Rick Perry is running. Romney will be running...scared. Pawlenty will be running...home. Santorum is running home as well.
BTW: Very high voter turnout in Wisconsin. Perhaps presidential levels. That's very good news for the Democrats. Progressives will win 5 of 6 seats.
Smile Anna Molly! Looking forward to your comments tomorrow.
I so hope Bush Light get's the nomination!
Nothing to remind Americans of Bush like his clone!
PS: Pawlenty is toast maybe he can meander on over to Santorum's tent and get some of that special jam...
No predictions from me on Wisconsin. We get to hear that "election" music on MSNBC tonight. High voter turn out is good news, though.
You might want to do a little research, noid
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0711/59687.html
See, the Bush/Perry clone story is not just conjecture, it is outright false.
It's all you've got right now, I understand. Seems Team Obama had three pictures as targets- Romney, Pawlenty, and Huntsman.
Pawlenty and Huntsman are having trouble gaining traction, (I guess the media is playing the game the way their leader wants them to- and not, really, covering them). They have a whole fear and smear campaign set up to deal with Romney.
Perry came out of nowhere at them, and I guess they don't have any talking points ready for you, other than to make fun of his hair, try to define him as a Bush clone, and the ever popular scurrilous rumor campaign.
Good luck with that.
Ed Schultz sure had an enthusiastic crowd on his show last night!
Can't wait to see what happens tonight...
I've got some champagne on ice! ;o)
Perry is no Bush Lite. Bush actually looks like a saint compared to the snake in the grass Perry.
Feisty:
You mind sharing a glass of that champagne. I think there will be a celebration in Madison, Wisc.
No Jo,
As a resident of the DFW area for almost eleven years with another 2 years in graduate school here, I can say you are right. Even during their time together in the state office they were never close. In fact some GOP I know have never even admitted that Bush was Texan as his roots were elsewhere. Perry is his own man, separate from Bush.
My opinion is that Perry a true conservative will not only continue tax cuts but will with the help of a new Congress push through debilatating cuts. Here in Texas Perry has appealed to what I call the "King of the Hill" crowd to paint Rove and Bush as false fiscal conservatives to garner more populist support. Ironic that Perry would deem that cutting funding to people would make him more of a populist.
It doesn't surprise me that Rove and Perry had a fall out and that there are different alliances between the two. What does surprise me is that UT alumnis could support an Aggie. Believe me down here proclaiming yourself a proud Aggie like Perry does is just a little lower than saying you are a proud yellow dog democrat.
Really? You want to give me article that somehow demonstrates to me that Perry is not Bush and so I open it and the first thing I see is Karl Rove?
No, thank you, I don't care what "Turd Blossom" thinks about the 2012 election.
Of course not - I'm running out now to grab a couple of extra bottles...
I think tonight's gonna be a good night... a good good night indeed! ;o)
High voter turnout usually favors Democrats...
Yellow dog you should remember that there was no state income tax on business in Texas and Perry changed that and called it a fee.
Geez, NoJoe, I know I've said this about a million times before, but do you ever read your own links before you post them? This one doesn't have a single word to say about whether or not Perry being a clone of Bush is "outright false", it just dredges up some feud from years ago between the Perry camp and Karl Rove. And even at that, it quotes a former Perry campaign manager as saying that “If Perry became the nominee, I suspect that Rove would do whatever he could to help him get elected".
Oh, and then there's this little nugget from the fourth page (See, I read the whole thing!):
"Meanwhile, Perry has stepped up his outreach to big donors with the resources to fund independent expenditure efforts, attending dinners with top national donors in Austin, and a June retreat in Aspen, Colo., with donors to the Republican Governors Association, which he chairs. He also scheduled an Aug. 9 fundraiser for his Texas campaign committee, for which he is soliciting $100,000 contributions — reportedly his biggest ask ever. Plus, he paid a surprise visit late last month to the annual summer donor conference hosted by the billionaire industrialist brothers Charles and David Koch near Vail, Colo. "
I think I've got it now.....Karl Rove bad! Koch Brothers good!
Texas A&M?
What IS an Aggie, anyway?
Oh, never mind. Whatever it is, I will inevitably reply that I prefer the horny frogs of TCU.
And then someone who has not read very closely will accuse me of being a closet Tea-vangelical.
But that's Marcus Bachmann. No resemblance, whatsoever.
Although, horny frogs DO have something to do with God.
At least, my vision of God.
Anyway. Fed Statement on Interest --
http://money.cnn.com/2011/08/09/news/economy/federal_reserve_statement/index.htm?iid=HP_LN
Dow -189.36
I can't even lose a bet without mucking it up. ;-)
Anna Molly..
Θα μιλούσαν για χόρτα σαλάτα με την πίτσα, έτσι δεν είναι;
Διαβάστε την απάντησή σας, ενώ μιλούσα με κάποιον και στη συνέχεια, μόλις κοίταξε μακριά στο διάστημα.
Είμαι πολύ ανήσυχος για να σας γνωρίσουμε και να ....
Remember the trigger at 25...we're good.
...and it's coming back. Down 88
Gotta say..there are a lot of confused folks in this building today.
Fed statement said nothing we did not know.
Plus no intervention. No interest rate increases. Business as usual in a very weak economy.
The word recession would scare me.
I'm hoping after tonight, the rally call we be, "Walker you're next to go down."
An Agriculture major or a clown from Texas A&M.
"Why doesn't Bush III just announce his candidacy already?"
Just picked this up off Wiki - "Iowa produced 19% of the nation's corn, 17% of the soybeans, 30% of the hogs, and 14% of the eggs. ..."
Notice that Republican presidential candidates didn't make the list.
Or did it?
Whew. Almost forgot about that trigger.
μετά το δείπνο συζητήσουμε ίσως αστρονομία
Good thing. I'd really hate to win. ;-)
Saltgrass - Perhaps you are refering to the state business taxes/fees that Perry proposed in the mid 2000's to make up for property tax cuts? As you know our recent $27 billion deficit to the state budget and shortages to our schools and social services were the result to Perry's plan.
What is an Aggie?
Saltgrass can confirm after all I've only been here 13 years and by some definitions I'm a #$%% Yankee.
Aggie - nickname for colleges granted state land and originally, primarily had agricultural degrees. Texas A&M. M stands for military as originally its purpose was to train military cadets.
Anna Molly..
Astronomy?
Up 140.
Whew..
JoAnne,
To add to your comment, one of those big rich republican supporters will not be attending.
DALLAS (AP) — Texas billionaire and philanthropist Charles Wyly, whose family donated millions of dollars to Republican causes and Dallas arts projects, has died after a car accident in western Colorado, authorities said. He was 77.
I met Mr. Wyly once during a presentation I had for a building retrofit my firm did to to one of his smaller theater additions in Dallas.
RIP Mr. Wyly.
What?! Look it up. LoL
Good on the market. I'm sure you want to win fair and square.
Me, too.
Feisty, set out another glass. I'll bring more champagne. We'll put it to good use.
JoAnn, did you read Mark's response?
Did it never occur to you to ask why the Bush camp helped Kay Bailey Hutchinson in her primary challenge to Perry?
Good grief- do things have to be written in letters ten feet tall before you understand what they mean?
There is, and has been, a huge rift between the Perry and Bush camps. Perry, rightly, questions Bush's credentials as a fiscal conservative. The two camps could not be farther apart.
Moreover, one of the people leading the march away from Perry is none other than Bush's strategist, Karl Rove. The Architect.
Reading for comprehension means that you understand not just what the words say, but what they MEAN.
No wonder you got sucked in by Obama.
You betcha! It's chilling as I type...
Yellow dog. That $2000 property tax cut that I never saw was the start of the business tax. I am like you a transplant to Texas about 12 years ago and would guess an Aggie is a educated farmer.
For those who care, and I sure do for lots of reasons that have nothing to do with money, the market is up over 300 points with 10 minutes to go.
The Fed issued a statement today that said nothing we did not know. We're not in a recession but all indicators are weak and the economy is stalled in first gear.
Additionally, they said they would not intervene, there would be no interest rate increases.
In other words, business as usual for the Fed in a very weak economy.
However, the word recession would scare me.
Yellowdog -
Sorry to hear that. The arts can use all the support they can get these days, especially smaller theaters, no matter what political persuasion the donor may be. I'll echo your RIP.
Anna Molly..
...and at the close the market is up 429.99.
Made up 2/3 of yesterdays loss.
So AM How do you take your pizza?
Τι θα θέλατε για επιδόρπιο;
Δεν μπορώ να περιμένω
..and astronomy can be very entertaining.
Congratulations, Ira. You win.
Για επιδόρπιο;
Είναι τα αστέρια έξω απόψε ...;
I'm always adaptable on crust. But lots of toppings.
Anna Molly..
Αυτό είναι πραγματικά πρόκειται να είναι τόσο πολύ cool!
Πώς μπορούν τα αστέρια δεν είναι από την ημερομηνία δείπνο μας;
Είμαι εδώ απόψε αργά. Θα το κείμενο που αύριο ακριβώς για να μιλήσει.
Είναι αυτό εντάξει.
Best day ever on FR!
Do I sense a budding romance? Dinner dates, secret texts... This is better than discussing politics... (smile) Ira, you dog you....
Hey Anna... if this turns out to be something... you will be sending out invitations to all your FR friends, eh? I've seen this happen before over message boards... It's great to witness.
Δεν σκέφτηκα ποτέ σχετικά με τη χρήση της ελληνικής ως ένας τρόπος για να μυστικό μήνυμα. Νομίζω ότι εσείς έχετε χτυπήσει μια χορδή. Ελπίζω ειλικρινά ότι αυτό που μπορεί να ξεκινήσουν τα έργα καλά. Ποτέ δεν το ύποπτο ... Πόσο δροσερός είναι αυτός;
Well, so much for that.
Yes.
Anna Molly..
Είστε αναστατωμένος για τους ανθρώπους να μάθετε;
Ειλικρινά δεν με νοιάζει
Ξέρω πόσο τυχερός είμαι και θα μπορούσαν να φροντίσουν λιγότερο για το τι σκέφτονται οι άλλοι.
It is true, in the 2012 election voters may see some connection between Texan candidate Rick Perry and the second term of former Texas Governor George Bush.
However, the voters will definitely see the connection between candidate Barack Obama , and the first term of... President Barack Obama..
Perry wins easily...
Bob if come across Rick Perry you should hold onto your wallet. He never raised a tax because it was called a Fee.
Perry wins easily...
American can be stupid, However, not that stupid.
One can complain about the President.
But then one has only to glance over the Republican field of wannabees, and suddenly the President looks very good indeed.
Well, Americans did elect Nixon, Reagan and GW twice...
Poor Pawlenty, the manure in a windstorm is actually people at his rally pushing for a write-in for Perry. It's probably the same group who pushed for Donald Trump until he was humiliated by President Obama at the WH Correspondent's Dinner and then moved on to drafting Chris Christie.
After reading Pawlenty's manure tossing comments this morning followed by Romney and Bachmann equally smelly remarks, there was President Obama at Dover Air Force Base greeting the caskets of the fallen heros and meeting with the families. Perspective.
Jody-
Amazing the contrast.
I don't know who is crazier, Pawlenty or Bachmann.
There will be another teachable moment coming from the President real soon which will bring the same kind of humilation Trump suffered.
You heard here on FR!
Not another "FANNY VALUES" person ...i think the whole idea of it stinks !
If you close your eyes and just listen to Rick Perry talk you swear you're listening to George Bush. I hope Perry gets the nomination because he will go down in flames. The American people don't want to be reminded of the person that got them into this mess to begin with.
He also has that same stupid look on his face.
Yup. They chant "yes, we can", and "hope for change".
On that last one, though, they are going to find that there are an awful lot of people in this country determined to make a change.
Cause, they really are repeating Obama's latest campaign slogan-
WTF.
Why do all Democrats think that everyone who lives in Texas is a George Bush clone
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No just Perry, and that will be the kiss of death.
No, just that half-wit redneck cowboy, Perry.
Oh pa-leeze! Just call the Bus Tour what you really mean:
The Round Em Up Dem Homo's and Corral Em In The Ovens Bus Tour!
Value Voters...just another name for racist religious bigots who still think the Earth is only 6000 years old, that snakes talked, that evolution and global warming are myths.
Gosh, maybe this bus tour could meet up with Obama's "looking for a clue tour" that will be in the midwest next week.
Comparing the President to Perry who is another half-wit redneck cowboy, I think we will stick with the President.
No problem there. I see violence as an ignorant person way of expressing themselves.
Are you Serious? How many of you know that for a fact, Rick Perry visited with the Bush's as well as their backers and political consultants regarding whether or not to run for president. As i've said all along, George Bush 3.0 will announce he is running for president at the last moment. I live in Texas and trust me, Rick perry is George Bush 3.0. If some of you would have kept a close eye on the news they past few weeks, then you'd know that everything i'm sayin is true.
Re: Gov. Perry
How can any sane American vote for a gov. who has threatened to have his state secede from the Union?
The answer is they are not sane. Now he can just default and destroy our government and Texas won't have anything to secede from anymore.
You can't underestimate the faux propaganda machine going 24/7 pushing Perry as the great white hope.
It's like Wisconsin, if we lose this next election in 2012 to the republicans, its going to get bad.
To say Perry threatened secession is a lie..
A lie which will be repeated by Soros monkeys thousands of times.
Let's see bob, I went and looked it up.
April 2009
Rick Perry suggested to a tea party group that if Barack Obama's Washington doesn't stop being so oppressive Texas might feel compelled to remove their American citizenry and secede from the union.
Is a threat not a threat in tea land?
Is this just another case where opinion trumps facts?
If he is a friend of bush ....it means bush's bf Karl Rove is funding it .... the Heritage Foundation !
The Romney campaign is probably looking for dirt on Perry as we speak, and Perry has an abundance of dirt to be uncovered, Perry seems to be another religious Republican hypocrite, he ain't as saintly as he would like everyone to think, one of the other candidates is sure to pull the curtain back on this schmuck.
look up rick perry sex scandal ! 10 plus pages
Well good for rick perry.
I fail to see why he shouldn't be getting laid as long as they're both consenting adults.
Nothing wrong with getting laid, but you really shouldn't claim Jesus told you to fornacate, seems un-sightly.
Duh, then that would make the Banana Republican flap over Bill and Monica a made up deflection from the real issues of the time right?
Can I run again if I don't talk about WMD's anymore.
"Can I run again if I don't talk about WMD's anymore."
Sure you can. We've moved the White House to the back yard, so yo don't have to drive. And, there is a really big red phone in there you can talk to. There is a special room dedicated to books about goats, and Dick will be over twice a week to play' war'. He promises to take his shoes off before you all get started. Gin and coo...I mean milk and cookies will be served at the usual time.
What about the big red button that controls the nukes? me and Dick may want to nuke somebody, gotta have my nukes.
O.K., but you will have to remember the code.
(PS - It's 'Daddy')
Silver lining if Obama is not reelected - after 4 years of one of the crazy wack jobs the repukes are offering, it will be smooooth sailing to the White House for Andrew Cuomo in 2016!
Andrew Cuomo= Mike Dukakis
Not actually Bob.
No W, you cannot run. LOL! We still never found those WMD's!
Rubio in 2016
No thanks, I'm trying to cut down on my tea consumption.
OMG I thought I was the only one that knew that cartoon.
It is my favorite,.....and you owe me a repainting of my entire den wall after that one.
I gotta' go git something to clean this up!!!
That catoon is a classic! Sorry about the den wall.
I thought I was the only Looney Tunes fan that posted here.
"Values Tour"?
Just what are republican "values"?
Value prejudice
Value homophobia
Value ego
Value guns to counter the paranoia resulting from the other values...
Thanks for running it down Richard, sometimes I need a refresher.
Off topic: people are saying the crowd turnout in Wisconsin is giant. Maybe historic.
I think a number of repubs are going to be cleaning out their desks once this day is done.
The people of Wisconsin are cheesed (no pun).
MEMO to all Iowans:
Perry's greatest accomplishments in Texas:
A 34 billion dollar budget deficit
Texas Ranks #1 in population living below the poverty line ( 17.2 % ).
•Worst environmental record in the United States
•Ranks #1 in illiteracy
•Ranks # 1 on the poorest gun regulations in the US and highest per capita gun murder rates in the US
•Ranks #1 with the highest real estate taxes per $1,000 value of a home in the United States
•Ranks #1 in the lowest high school graduation rate
•Ranks #1 with the highest interest rates “pay day” companies can charge
•Ranks # 1 in those making below minimum wage
•Ranks 50th ( dead last ) in Teacher Pay
•Ranks # 1 (26.5%) who lack health insurance
•Ranks # 1 (20.3%) of children who lack health insurance
•Ranks # 1 in the highest per capita executions in the world
•Ranks # 50th in $ spent for Medicaid for the poor and children
•Ranks 50th ( dead last ) in $ spent on its citizens
•Ranks # 1 in the # of food insecure children.
•Ranks 49th ( the 2nd lowest ) in Medicaid $ given to nursing homes
•Ranks 2nd highest in teen births
•Ranks #2 with the highest home insurance rates
•Ranks #2 with the highest sales tax
•Ranks 49th in $ funded for the mentally ill
•Ranks #1 with the highest overall pollution rate
•Ranks #1 in adults under correctional control
•Ranks #1 in adults under probation
The Wisconsin recall outcome is important for both sides..The BIG and most important developement is that the Dems , Progressives , and Independents are fighting the arrogant mindset of the GOP-T nuts..Democracy is still alive (if not completely well ) in Wisconsin......Vote Independent !