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Subscribe to RSSIn an interview NBC's Andrea Mitchell, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi acknowledged that the debt deal -- which she voted for -- was a "bad deal," but that it's now time to move on.
"It’s a bad deal but it’s a done deal, and it’s time for us to move on," Pelosi said in the interview, which aired on MSNBC's "Andrea Mitchell Reports." "It’s the basis on which we are going to proceed and we have to get on with it."
Could President Obama have done a better job negotiating? Pelosi's answer:
I think the president was great. But, again, what is the point of talking about what is finished? On anything that happens around here, any one of us could have done it better, right? We could have written it better, we could have, whatever it is. But the fact is the president wanted a balanced, bipartisan agreement at the end of the day.
MITCHELL: But he didn’t get a balance. There’s no taxes in it.
PELOSI: That’s right, nobody knows that better than I or perhaps some do, but I fully appreciate that. But again, this is about how we go to the next steps: jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs.
Another interesting exchange came when Mitchell asked if Congress was broken.
PELOSI: This is the marketplace of ideas. This is where people come and represent their constituents on the short term, every two years. And so it’s always been a contentious people. People had duels in those days, canings, and the rest.
MITCHELL: But how do you feel now to have people saying things like Congress is ridiculous, it’s messy?
PELOSI: Well, I agree with that. I think that the whole process has been -- makes people angry, makes people disgusted. And I don’t think that we should have the legitimate debate about budget priorities with the sword of Damocles over our head. If not, we’re going to default. I don’t think that that was the appropriate dynamic, but that’s done, and now we’re moving on.
And Congress for its whole entirety has been an institution that has been mocked. The real -- the difference now is in communication, real time, in fact, quicker than real time, before anybody has a chance to process what’s going on, people have formed an opinion and gone on. It’s a very healthy, good thing.
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Nancy Pelosi: the gift that keeps on giving for the GOP.
Thanks Nan, for all the GOP seats we won in the House. Keep pushing the Dems Left, we will take the US Senate and the White House in 2012, too.
Bob, the Democrats are hardly going left. The whole country is moving to the right. Some are moving to the far right. Obama himself is right of where the center used to be.
The people are watching and paying attention. 2012 will be a change all right, and not in the way you think.
fielden said, 2012 will be a change all right, and not in the way you think. So fielden go ahead and be the person sitting behind me at the theater, tell me who the winner is.
Yo, Bob- got an extra hit or two of whatever you dropped today?
What color is the sky in your world- paisley??
At least it's time for Pelousy to move on anyway! Hopefully she will take Reid with her.
Or, perhaps, Nancy, the democrats could have not voted for a bad deal. How about saying to the republicans...no....they say it to the democrats often enough. The United States government negotiated with hostage takers in this deal; which is disgusting....worse...they've set a precedent and now whenever anybody won't compromise....we get to live this all over again.
Well, better late than never, but then being late seems to be the rule for these congressional pickpockets, why can't they just do what needs to be done without all the back stabbing and wheeling and dealing to fill their pockets and the corporations that pay them off......
Yep, pivoting to jobs go they.
But wait they were supposed to have done that after Obamacare was signed. Then again after Frank-Dodd was signed. Then again...
Kinda seeing a pattern here.
Yeah I know the deal was crappy and didn't contain any increases in revenue so....lets move on...it's a done deal.
Actually no Nancy...not even close to done as the specifics of the first trillion have not been announced nor do we know what the Super Committee is going to do.
Is this going to be $2.8 trillion in just cuts or is there any revenue component?
Next...
IRA just look at the white house's projections: $43 Trillion to be spent over the next ten years.
You really need not worry about anything other than being flat ass broke, cause that's where we are going.
Spanky..
My post was meant to be sarcastic.
Missed by a mile.
time for a good old fashion hanging! what is it going to take for the American people to rise together?
REVOLUTION
Move on...nothing to see here...until the next "bad deal"...and after almost three years of "..and now for something completely different..." we are pivoting to jobs, jobs, jobs...yippee!
Best not to be too smug....politcs turns on a dime and just when one finds themselves on top......the bottom falls out from underneath. It's a long way to 2012.....keep an eye out over your left shoulder Repubs.
Now instead of a gun to the head it's a sword....
"terrorists", "hostage takers"
What's with all the violent imagery from the democrat party.....can't they just go back to calling me a racist.
The most amazing phenomenon is that Liberals ( like Pelosi) think that adding to the deficit will have a positive effect on their lives. When the govt. money runs out, so do the hand-outs. So, I wonder what the Liberals are going to tell their kids and grand kids........" Honey, you see, in my day we fought hard for the govt. to SPEND way more than what the country could afford. Now, there's nothing left for you. So, GET A JOB and pay taxes just like the Republicans have done for generations."
Pay taxes like Republicans? Lol. Thank you for the zippy catch phrase that cleverly ignores reality. The prime financial supporters of the Republican Party are paying the lowest taxes they've had to pay in about half a century. One of the biggest contributors to the current deficit is the Bush tax cuts, you know, the ones Republicans and Democrats voted for without any concern as to how the government was going to deal with the lost revenues. I can only understand this if you happened to be a yacht owner, or, say, General Electric, or Jon Kyl who occasionally says things not intended to be factual statements.
Knonfodder says Republican Party are paying the lowest taxes they've had to pay in about half a century. The qualifying statement there is the Republicans are paying taxes, something half the progressives don't do. Whats worse is they spend the taxes the federal government collects. As my friend Fiesty says, thanks for playing.
The distinction being my statement is based on statistical data comparing tax rates over much of the last century that even you should be able to google, while yours is more of the antagonistic, unsubstantiated rhetoric that frequently masquerades as cogent perspective. You did everything but say I was eating government cheese while typing. As for Republicans paying taxes, particularly as it relates to Republican leaning corporations as far as campaign donations go (at least pre-Citizens United ruling), please see my other post.
As my friend Bill Engvall says, here's your sign.
And while I'm thinking about it, where did you get that 50% of all progressives don't pay taxes? Because unless this is another "not intended to be factual" statement, I'm guessing Andrew Breitbart would absolutely love to see this evidence...as would I.
LEONA, Stooping to a new low with your lame post. Your are a LAIR and your post shows it. Republicans are the only ones who pay taxes? Well that is what your pathetic statement alludes to.
You are full of crap. You are here by awarded the lair, lair pants on fire award. Wait, I think I hear your Fox News calling. Yep, they want their dittobot to come home now.
Where are those JOBS,JOBS,JOBS,JOBS the Dems keep talking about?? the layoffs are UP, UP & away!!!!!NO JOBS IN sight! Hillary for president in 2012!!!!!
ssssh,
keep that under your hat. hillary would actually win the general in 2012. you would think they would have learned from history. they should have put up teddy instead of letting carter get his head kicked in.
now it will be obama's turn
If the tea party would take into consideration that people are suffering, we could get some kind of agenda out there on jobs, but republicans worry about their jobs before any of the people's jobs. The grover norquists of this world get first dibs on republican votes. With the republican party there is not government of the people, by the people, for the people. It is now the government of the uber rich. We all know where the blame lies for all of this. republicans have all the answers. Lay off public servants to help make jobs, then give the money to the wealthy.
Yeah Wayne we know you want other people to pay taxes so you can spend it. How about you and your friends spend a little less and no will have to pay more taxes. Better yet why don't you send in a few more dollars every month, there is sure a progressive out there waiting to spend it.
Yes, the "jobs, jobs, jobs" mantra sickeningly echos the Republican campaigns of 2010: all lip service and little more.
However, anyone who thinks disillusionment with Pelosi and her ilk has to do with their "pushing" Dems to the left is oblivious to what's happened. Extreme political fringers have managed to move "center" further and further to the right, while Congresswoman Pelosi and others relented time and again. Honest centrists have watched this dog and pony show, first in amusement, then in disgust, and now with grave concern.
Politics does make strange bedfellows. Just as some Tea Party Republicans and Progressive Caucus Democrats found themselves voting no on the debt ceiling package (both in the pursuit of purely symbolic gestures), I can say, as a California voter, I'm in agreement with conservatives on this much: Pelosi needs to go.
I am sure I am not the only liberal to be really disappointed with Pelosi voting for (even "supporting") the recent debt deal. I look up to her to be there to support our values and principles and she left them behind probably to please Obama? and then later admitted it's a bad deal! why vote for a bad deal? it simply means she was not voting for her conscience, her principles. not a good time to please Obama.
Are we seeing the fall of the Roman Empire sure looks like it. Idon't see one thing about Schools Kids etc.
The peoples house is not doing its job for the people their putting money in their pockets for their next
election that it. To hell with the people. Tell Me one thing they are doing for all the People?
I couldn't agree more.
Where are the Jobs Mr. Boehner? Or was that another false promise to the American people?
[Where are the Jobs Mr. Boehner?]
Didn't you hear? McDonald's had 50,000 job openings...there's the Republicans idea of "jobs"...
Mickey says Didn't you hear? McDonald's had 50,000 job openings...there's the Republicans idea of "jobs"... At the sametime hope and change for a lot of other people that voted for it, is hope they find another job so they don't have to change their address. By the way how is that hope and change working out for you Mickey.
For once I agree with Nancy Pelosi, it's behind us now it's time to move on. To bad her liberal followers don't take her advice and quit blaming everything on President Bush, who hasn't been in office for almost 3 yrs. That goes for Obama also, lead or get out of the way, it is Obama's tax extension, Obama's economy, Obama's unemployment rate, Obama's waste of approximately $1 Trillion in wasted stimulus spending, Obama's failure to create jobs, etc.. So democrats just move on or move out and quit crying.
Those who do not learn from history....
Bush is never far from any discussion of our current economic woes because it was under his watch (along with a staggeringly unproductive congress) that the swirl around the economic drain began and then accelerated. This isn't tangential. No economist is going to look at what happened between 2000-2008 and say there is no causal relationship between Bush administration decisions and the situation we are still enduring.
But please don't mistake anyone's general dissatisfaction with the lack of turn-around as an endorsement of the belief that the stimulus was "wasted" spending. Again, the general consensus of economists is that the stimulus likely was a big factor of our recession not turning into a depression; the problem is how do you measure the impact of what might have happened? We DO know that the economy stopped hemorrhaging jobs and grew, albeit marginally.
Also bear in mind that the stimulus was another compromise, and the lack of growth could and has sometimes been attributed in part to the belief that it didn't go far enough. The damage to our economy had been so severe, anything short of jaw-dropping spending was merely triage.
I don't think anyone is "crying," blaming W for our lack of recovery. The path of recovery, good or bad, will always sit on the shoulders of president Obama and our current/future congress. But the roots of the situation we face now are long, deep, and firmly entrenched in the Bush presidency.
You can blame Bush all you want, but Obama knew the state of the union before he got elected. So after he got elected by you suckers what is the problem? Is he a liar, a failure or both. Its Bushes fault doesn't pass the smell test unless you like the smell of BS.
"Its Bushes fault doesn't pass the smell test unless you like the smell of BS."
...or have the slightest appreciation for recent history. Yes, you can find antecedents to what happened in practically every administration from President Reagan through President Clinton, but when the shoe dropped, it happened in Bush's term due in no small part to his administration's policies.
I think it's safe for us to agree Obama "knew the state of the union before he got elected." How that translates into his being a liar, a failure or both requires a leap that even Evel Knievel would've reconsidered. If you're looking for issues regarding President Obama's ability to do as he says, you might want to point to the subsequent problems with White House transparency, the continuing detention of suspects at Guantanamo, and his protracted fence-straddling over DADT.
You see, this isn't Obama Thunderdome, where one person has to insist he's demonic while the other paints him as a savior. This actually is about honesty in both action AND assessment, something I find lacking in Congresswoman Pelosi and her quotes, prompting my original post. The reason Bush entered the topic is because "sfcret" decided to use the opportunity to make sloppy assertions wholly unrelated to what practically everyone else was discussing, while using "liberal" as if it was a derogatory term. I took the opportunity to make what I believed were needed corrections. You're free and welcome to substantively refute anything I wrote, the key word being "substantively."
Now that the Republicans have finished with their self-created debt crisis, they can now focus on creating jobs. Right?
...Right, Republicans?
Crickets!
It wasn't a bad deal, it was ransom.