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Subscribe to RSSDemocratic Congressional Campaign Committee Chairman Steve Israel appeared on "MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell" reports earlier today, calling Speaker Boehner’s decision to add a balanced-budget amendment vote to his bill a “political” move.
“You know, look, let's not be fooled this balanced-budget term. It is not a balanced budget,” the congressman from New York said.
“They are not interested in balanced budgets,” he continued, referring to House GOP members. “They are interested in one thing and one thing only; making the rich much, much richer and making the middle-class much, much poorer. And that is why you get delay after delay after delay. nd that is why, as the clock runs out, instead of meeting in the middle, they are lurching further and further to the extreme right wing.”
Despite his frustration with some of his colleagues from across the aisle, Israel said he still thinks a bipartisan deal can be reached if both sides meet in the middle.
“Look, you know, I have never been in a situation where everybody agrees on what cannot happen, but one party refuses to agree on what can happen,” he said. “And that's where we are now... I hope that good sense prevails, and that they don't do the political thing -- but they do the right thing by the American people.”
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Agreed. Everyone agrees that we cannot default, but the GOP/TP WON'T agree on how we prevent that. Power politics, and it is going to destroy this great nation.
Q.) Are we so fractured as a country that we're going to allow 50 tea baggers the authority to hold 300 million others hostage?
A.) Sure as hell looks like it!
Get on the phone & continue to e-mail your representatives and tell them ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!
Boehner has confirmed he's not capable to lead a pack of Girl Scouts let alone the House...
I say, that if it would still give Congress a quorum, round them all up in -- I mean, invite them all to --the East Room of the White House and entertain them for a while with videos of old newsreels from the Great Depression and the dustbowl. Force feed -- I mean, serve -- them some fatty fast food so they can taste how the other half lives.
And then, make them read Steinbeck -- GRAPES OF WRATH and maybe OF MICE AND MEN -- and discuss. Joe Walsh could lead that discussion.
After that, have them read METAMORPHOSIS, so they get an idea what we all think of them.
And then, they could read Faulkner's AS I LAY DYING and think about their legacies. Maybe write some essays about that for all of us to read.
And while they're busy, take a vote on the McConnell-Reid bill. I'll bet it passes.
I have fiesty. I called the Honorable Richard Shelby and the Honorable Jeff Sessions again today and they assured me all or nothing. Cut, Cap and Balance dear. Oh and by the way the Tea Party has started.
Actually, I meant for Joe Walsh to lead the discussion of METAMORPHOSIS.
I see that...
Basically, we have of a bunch of idiots who don't know the difference between debt & deficit holding America hostage!
You must be SO proud! lol
Enjoy it while it lasts... tick tock....
Who would expect less from the lefty Liberals in Congress who have produced nothing. not a single piece of legislation that address'es the budget problem we have in this country. They scream loud but, are spineless when it comes to providing Written documentation as to exactly where they stand. Democrats in Congress are Spineless cowards. The incompetant in the White House cant even get a Single Democrat to Back his Budget. . Way to go . he is not even leading from Behind. He is off the Grid..
Well, the US markets just closed, down less than 1%.
Damn.
I want Washington's stupidity to cause a (very temporary) 20% drop so I can fill my GTC limit buy orders on good companies that will not be affected by higher interst rates, like AAPL, at a great price. C'mon Barry. I have faith in you. You have screwed up everthing else, get with the program and screw this debt ceiling crappola up, too.
I'll have my Apple with peanut butter, please.
http://money.cnn.com/2011/07/29/markets/thebuzz/index.htm?iid=Lead
Oh, and oil was also up today. Oil is always up.
Conservatives, as are each of the groups, will be up for re-election in 2, 4, or 6 years so if you don't agree with them then send your checks to the district caucus you agree with, and take it up in the next election. If you want to get around these people now then get enough votes from the rest.
steveiam. How many pieces of legislation did republicans produce from 2001 through 2008 to address THEIR mounting deficit and debt? Neither side is blameless but the democrats have been far more fiscally responsible than republicans since Reagan was elected.
Anna Molly..
You were good with the video part then you assumed that they all could read and you lost me.
Mixed Bag..
You are sooooo right. Posturing and talking points..just what we need right now
The bill is already tabled in the Senate and will never come to a vote.
Friday afternoon, after 4pm EST and still not even close to an agreement.
The Dow is down about a hundred and starting to sell off at the close. That would be 6 consecutive trading days and close to 600 points. Can't wait for Monday.
...and we're still talking about a Balanced Budget Amendment and a bipartisan agreement.
Both sides lost their chance to show leadership and only magnified just how dysfunctional this divided government really is.
Every soldier overseas is an outsourced job. Bring 'em all home to work and spend their paychecks on American soil. Let 'em eat hotdogs, not schnitzel. Put America to work feeding our soldiers, not Germany or whomever.
Get a load of Moran blaming Republicans for tax cuts. It is the "2010 Obama Tax Cuts for the Rich" that he wishes to be rid of. The IOUs that sit in the Social Security Trust fund in place of cash are signed by the Who's Who of politician from both political parties.
Feisty-
"Are we so fractured as a country that we're going to allow 50 tea baggers the authority to hold 300 million others hostage?"
Ummm...
Are you sure, Feisty?
What the Tea Partiers have been engaged in at the moment is opposing a bill from Speaker Boehner...a bill that you oppose as well!
I believe Libs R Us needs a new "spokes-hole".
You're embarrassing Mark Murray, Feisty Redhead.
Heavens...at least I HOPE he's embarrassed by you.
LoL Well, you win some and you lose some, Ira.
As they say, tomorrow's another day.
Tea Parties are for 6 yr. girls and their Dollies! Time for solutions not make believe.
Why? Are you embarrassed by what your Tea Bag Pals like JAS1, njnb, Bill, Spanky, ITM or the bobs have to say?
AM -- I agree with Ira, though it's not so much the reading part rather the comprehension part conservatives struggle with. So video is best. But as Ben Affleck suggested, instead of showing the Teabaggers "The Town" they should watch The "Company Men."
Bob Jones -- Nice of you to call your representatives and hand them a rope, assuring them you will support them when they hang themselves. Good job!
An amendment to the constitution is a long and very hard process even with more popular issues. No one supports Paul Ryan's plan to privatize Medicare so the rich can be given additional tax breaks--and you conservatives darn well know it. The Duck, Dodge and Dismantle amendment is the Ryan plan on steroids, and would make the draconian measures permanent. There's NO (zero, nada, zilch) support for that.
The Teabaggers need to move to La La Land where they can live happily ever after with 16% spending and no revenues. Don't let the door hit ya in the arse on your way out. It's that or a boot from the voters in 2012. That's the real option.
Joe Walsh is just the first to be exposed for the douche-bag that he is. Between now and 2012 many others in the Teabag caucus will be exposed to sunlight and disinfected the same way Christine O'Donnell and Sharron Angle were. In the meantime, the president could kill a puppy on live TV and still win because that's how bad the GOP/TP sucks.
steveiam
Who would expect less from the lefty Liberals in Congress who have produced nothing. not a single piece of legislation
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Not only is this statement false, it is a Damm lie.
I sure would like to tell the CEO's of BP, Exxon Mobil, Standard Oil, Connoco Phillips, etc. were to put that nozzle!
True Patriot ~ Very well, then. Movies it is. GRAPES OF WRATH is a great film. Henry Fonda rocks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yer4L1Uhayc&feature=related
That's probably all they need, or should be.
LoL And make THEM watch GRAPES OF WRATH, too.
And be sure they have Pawlenty of nothing to eat.
I'll have my Apple with peanut butter, please.
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Reeses candy bought with AAPL profits really taste extra GOOOOOOD!!!!!
Oh, and oil was also up today. Oil is always up.
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Let's hope!! Looks like my VGENX holdings will be up today.
Those guys would probably cheer the scene when the company goons show up with their clubs to lay open Tom Joad's head.
Those Fat Cats couldn't survive with out their catered lunches! They might, gulp, have to learn what it's like to to do without. Well one can dream.
Excellent. Looks like you're buying. Make mine the dark chocolate.
I'm sure Rupert Murdoch will be there personally to videotape it. If not, I will.
Most of the tea party in congress have already said that they will not vote to raise the debt ceiling under any circumstance.
Good luck with that Anna Molly! If you can Tea Bag to loosen their purse strings you should share that little secret with the Dems in Congress!
Obviously those of you who are whining about the Senate not writing a bill were not paying attention in civics class. All bills dealing with money have to originate in the House.
...and to all....Have a Great Weekend...and remember it's just a blog...not life and death.
Nothing you say here will change the outcome of events in DC.
Enjoy....
Excellent. Looks like you're buying. Make mine the dark chocolate.
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Reeses dark chocolate is one of the very few changes to one of my life-long candy passions that I have happily adjusted my conservative views on candy to like. I'm happy to buy it for you with my AAPL profits, but, we still need to have Barry and co. trash the markets another 15-16% before some of my GTC limit buy orders kick in. So far, AAPL has not reacted much to the Barry Debtaggedon threats and that, (sort of) unfortunately, reinforces my opinion that this is all just Washington stupidity and the smart people in the real world aren't buying it. Let's hope for a big (very temporary) meltdown on Monday. As rahm Emannuel advised "Never let a good crisis go to waste, and always buy the dark chocolate Reeses"
"Political." You don't say.
LoL Tell that to Feisty. ;-)
This is just what the vast majority of American voters want...a measured, responsible, practical dialogue between the two political parties.
Thanks, Rep. Israel.
You've raised the level of discourse immeasurably.
At least you aren't part of the problem, are you?
Steve Israel, just another Democrat hatchet-man.
You see Steve, we tried it your way. A massive stimulus bill I'm sure you voted for. The uncertainty introduced to businesses across the country by ObamaCare, a bill I'm sure you voted for. An unemployment rate of 9.2% and rising, a 1.3% GDP and falling. A dollar getting to be worth a peso. Consumer confidence at a 2 year low. Trillion dollar deficits.
Yes Rep. Israel, you're the authority we should look to in this crisis. Your track record is impeccable. Why should we not trust you and your obviously expert background on economic issues?
Borrowing money for giving massive tax cuts and then starting two wars unfunded is such great economic sense I wonder why it caused us problems?
"I hope that good sense prevails"
That ship has sailed. The Teapublicans have made this such a nightmare, all over a few piddling tax loopholes for oil companies and the mega rich. All that's left, in my opinion, is for President Obama to lift the ceiling himself, and save the country.
And SUNK!
I hear the pizza was tasty though...
and what really hurts, I'll bet the pizza went on the expense account--which means that we paid for it!
You Betcha!
Thanks for reminding me!
Unbelievable!
Feisty
CNN had an article on their website today about House Republicans who personally carry huge credit card debt (not to mention Joe Walsh taking two european vacations while owing three years worth of child support .) Save me from "fiscal conservatives" who can't even manage their own finances.
Unfortunately very very believable Fiesty. But we know the boner has always had one set of rules for T-Pubs and another for US All.
more likely boehner understands compromise and the fractus freshmen don't. Some may be hard pressed to find their way back to washington come jan 2013.
BTW - a balnced budget is workable at a state and local level but hardly at the federal level, natural disasters, war and our periodic recessions makes it impractical.
Now an amendment requiring that a source of funding be required for all spending programs outside the three events mentioned above would seem to be more doable.
The Boehner bill is dead in the Senate. Why is he wasting time?
And the reid bill isn't dead in the house? Seems that some of the cuts reid proposes may not even be valid. A $trillion cut over ten years for no longer being in irag or afghanistan seems to be quite a stretch. After all hasn't our total investment in these two conflicts been just over $1 trillion since 2001?
Job1, you make it sound like if your favorite sports team was playing a game that the opposition shouldn't even waste their time in competing. BTW- very few one party systems have demonstrated longevity, ignore that fact at your own peril.
Well that's because "The Show must go on!"
LOL
If only someone would give him the 'hook' - exit stage left!
The Reid bill is dead in his Senate. He won't even bring it to a vote.
Reid's underwear is in a bunch over the fact that the House bill allows for ONLY spending $1 trillion in deficit spending, and Reid knows he'll burn through that before the 2012 election. Reid does not want his party to be held accountable for the out of control spending, and he knows if it is, he'll be Senate Minority Leader (he probably will be anyway) in 2013.
Feisty Redhead Roselle:
You gotta wonder if they called Godfather's Pizza and had Herman Cain deliver it.
NAH!
That nasty sh!t they put on top and try to pass off as cheese wouldn't satisfy their delicate taste-buds!
PS: Good to see you back & congrats! ;o)
Thank you John Boehner and your caucus. Here us Democrats were collectively angry @ President Obama for what he was proposing. But thanks to you guys, we’ve ended the week with a laugh or two. Something desperately needed.
You can always count on the Republicans to take the prize yet again for bringing out the most undesirable of traits in all of humanity. Just a few days is all it took.
Well, best of luck Speaker Boehner. I for one hope you keep your position. Just a little bit of advice: President Obama wanted to work with you. Nancy Pelosi would have worked with you. You should have stuck with them.
You’d have a passed bill now, all ready for the President to sign. Just something to think about. Eric Cantor isn’t your friend. President Obama is if you want him to be.
"Eisenhower admitted the budget can't be balanced and McCarthy says the Communists are taking over. You don't know what to worry about these days ... whether the country will be overthrown or overdrawn." Bob Hope
Have a pleasant weekend Speaker Boehner. Choose wisely in the future.
Pat: He has proven himself to be incapable of choosing wisely.
Pat, I wasn't all that upset because President Obama knew they'd never take the deal--that Grover Nordquist thing along with the numerous other GOPTP signed pledges.
Want to know what's the FUNNY THING, Pat?
Their mantra was to see to it that Obama was a "One term President", right?
Had John Boehner AND the rest of the GOP/TP taken the deal that he offered last week, it would've effectively sealed his fate; I mean he LITERALLY stated that he was going to live with a $650 Billion cut to the Big Three!!!!
BUT NOOOOOO!!!! They have let their mantra overcloud their sense of reasoning and, for lack of a better term, "LOGIC".
I've learned two new things from all of this:
(1) They blew their chances of making their plan a reality RIGHT OUT the window.
AND
(2) I will NEVER play poker against the The President; for Obama's "poker face" is too damn hard to read.
It appears that our president has been playing poker since JAN,2009 and the rest of them (repubs, the progressive left, tea partyers, the rwnjs and the media) have been playing spades. Barack Hussein Obama is one impressive community organizer and an even more impressive POTUS.
Obama/Biden 2012
The House just passed Boehner's bill!
At least you said he's not a Leader, because he's not.
Paul you are a jerk!!! The President is alway the Leader of your country. you may noy like some things he does but but he is just one man fighting all peoples in our country no jus rich republican who wants two class of society haves and have no-ts
Job one of the T-Pubs is to see this president fail no matter the cost; second only to making the rich richer and destroying the middle class.
We will remember if this travesty doesdn't kill the country before November 2012. I heard some of these guys were streaming into the house chapel to pray. I pray that they cannot get up off their knees until all Bush tax breaks are rescinded. Problem solved. 4 trillion saved!
I don't know who they pray to but Mephistophiles comes to mind. Negative prayers are so effective, you know. Really I'd rather they just do their job but that is obviously a pipe dream with these school yard bullies.
As for a balanced budget amendment...another Democratic idea that history has shown Republicans are (or were) unwilling to do under Reagan or Clinton when it was a much ballyhooed proposal. They are no more interested in a balanced budget than T-people are about erasing the deficit. (see Bush Tax Cuts recently extended which increased the deficit).
They're lucky lightening didn't strike them. I think it was Grover Nordquist's voice they heard.
way off base missy, but do carry on though. Perhaps you can tell us if the chapel has a plaque on its doors saying right wing only. I wonder how the left prays to, obama?
And I thought most Americans could read but looks like you can't.
I didn't call it a "right wing" house chapel. I can't say how others pray but I have been praying for reality, logic and honesty to slap the right wing up side their ever lovin' heads. Maybe wisdom would be a refreshing slap from above but God knows there is no seriousness intented in the T-Pub crowd's prayerful attitude.
You see, when one prays a prayer of FAITH, one cannot dictate to God the outcome but instead accepts the will of our creator. He will have His way, work His will, and bless those who reflect His son.
God bless you're little nitpicking heart.
based on post 6, it is evident that you do need help in the reality, logic and honesty categories.
Nice to see that you you skirted my question on the plaque, a simple yes or no would have sufficed. At least you acknowledged that you don't really know how others pray. As for God and Christ, I was of the belief that accepting Christ as Lord and Saviour was the only way to pass on the glory to God, rich or poor, weak or strong, left or right.
Also interesting that you place such negative judgement on the right while ignoring the left. Since the bush tax cuts expired jan 1 2011 perhaps you need to rephrase that the cuts as now being obamas.
Was this good enough for nitpicking? After all, this is just a blog. BTW - don't words have consequences?
So, let me get this straight, John Boehner's definition of compromise is to cave to the tea partiers. Harry Reid's definition of compromise is to cave to the republicans. I need a new dictionary; mine has the wrong definition for the word compromise.
The teabaggers don't care about what they're doing. they are traitors and anarchists.
You know what? I am SO FAR BEYOND through with President Obama trying to reach a compromise AND capitulating with the GOP/TP that it's not even funny!!
To hell with them.
President Obama: It's WAY PAST TIME for you to use unilateral action.
Use the power and authority granted to you by the U.S Constitution in order to fix this mess.
Use the damn "Nuclear Option": Section 4 of the Fourteenth Amendment.
If he can avoid using it, we're a lot better off. You do realize the right will be filing law suits to challenge his action and we have a right-leaning justice. Impeachment is their game. Using that should be the last best option.
Jody, Iowa
I am afraid you are exactly right. The language in that section of the amendment is pretty specific and very broad at the same time. He needs the nod from the Congress before he does. Although he has seemingly stuck his neck out before by going against Democratic Ideology in his negotiations with the GOP/TP so he may just take the ball and run with it here if he feels so strongly that it is the only option for America.
With you Kevin....
I just want to see President Obama call them out for what they are...make the argument against them which should be easy....and take this problem by the horns! Come on Obama!!! Do it!!
How you doin' Jody!!!!
Long time, no see!!!!
Former Penn. Gov. Ed Rendell stated it best last night: Obama has the CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to do whatever deemed necessary to fix this mess, and should there be a lawsuit ( I know- The GOP/TP are going to do it!!!!), I don't think it will stand.
Conservatives will be up for re-election in 2, 4, or 6 years so if you don't agree with them then send your checks to the district caucus you agree with, and take it up in the next election.
That's a given, Scott. I bet the DNC has had to hire extra people to process all the donation checks pouring in after this Teapublican debacle.
People ... we can't blame this on the Tea Party Republicans. They were not implanted in our government to make important and logical decisions for our country.
They are just a band of paid traitors that represent the rich bastards that paid their way in office.
This is a major conspiracy plot to take over the government of the United States of America!!!
This is political terrorism - there is a strong and powerful force hidden behind the TEA PARTY BANNER.
It's time for the FBI or CIA to investigate these group of people and find out who's behind the plot to destroy our country ... by purposely trying to destroy the middle - class and defunct our Government.
TRUTH - not CRAP
Thank you and GOD BLESS AMERICA
TDS, Go one step further, if a Government official purposefully harms this country during a time of war or aid the enemy they can be tried as Traitors and I think 100,000 troops deployed to Afghanistan can be classified as being at war and allowing this country to default can be considered as aiding the enemy. I say just throw the bastards in jail and hang them for treason.
This is from the AP about Senator Joe Manchin of WV--he's not supporting Boehner's or Reid's plan:
Manchin instead endorsed the sort of provisions developed by the so-called Gang of Six, three senators from each party. They proposed cutting the deficit by more than $4 trillion over the next decade, in part by generating $1 trillion in new tax revenue.
“It’s the only thing that I have seen since I have been here that is truly bipartisan,” he said of that approach."
This is what President Obama and Boehner came close to agreeing to before Boehner walked out and surrendered to the tea party!
Sueb1,
Exactly right. I don't necessarily agree with cutting social programs at all...especially when there are plenty of other places to find savings but if this is what it takes to get a deal then so be it. The deal has to have revenue increases (taxes on the wealthy) and it has to include cuts.
No, the Gang of 6 plan is not what Boehner and Obama almost agreed to; it was the $4 trillion over 10 years that they almost agreed to; they also discussed the VP and Senate ideas. Boehner walked out and used the Gang of 6 plan as an excuse. President Obama said he liked the plan but that's all. It was not part of the negotiations because Boehner left the talks before it was released.
To all the RWNJ's out there screaming for a democratic bill, why should we bother? It's much more fun to watch the fractured GOP/TP run around like chickens with their heads cut off introducing legislation that does not address the nations debt issues all the while blaming democrats for a mess they created. It is AWESOME to watch, and will be SWEET come November 2012.
So true. It's crazy and nonsense at the same time. There were, my view, too many plans floating around.
Jody,
Exactly. Each one crazier than the last. They appear so disorganized in the public eye, there is NO WAY anyone can vote for these jokers again. NO WAY.
My sentiments exactly! However, many voters have short memories. Democrats cannot allow the people to forget. Obama needs a majority in the House and a filibuster proof majority in the Senate.
didn't they just waste time last week on this cut cap and balance Bill? Why do they continue to hold us hostage for their ideology? Enough IS Enough!
A: their needle is stuck on stupid.
The Repubs want "Cut Cap & Balance."
The Dems/Libs want " GUT (the Treasury), TAP ( the Taxpayers) & CHALLENGE ( the Capitalist system)."
Those darn liberals are so anti-capitalist that's why the democrats voted for TARP and for loans to save the auto industry.
Bail-outs of companies and UNIONS is NOT the capitalist system. Successful companies do NOT need a bail out. Obama was bailing out the UNIONS.
Dearest Ms Helmsley,
If you were half as cute as you thought you were you'd be on the Gerber baby food bottle puckering up to kiss rightwing butt. Now, you may be too old to be on that bottle but you sure are a puckering fool to say such a thing.
How long did you sit at your keyboard thinking that little message up. Creativity is not your strong suit but foolishness is your birthright.
No go try and convince someone with a brain to laugh at your little quip. This situation is not funny. You are not witty. And you are not serious about fixing the problem caused by the very gang of T-Pubs you support.
You do so at your own demise if they get their way. The last laugh will be ion you as you belatedly realize you've signed your own death certificate along with the American Middle class.
Get a clue and glue your mouth shut so you can listen and hear the truth.
BTW Bush already gutted the treasury, tax payment by the upper 2% (you one of those?) NEED to be tapped and we have challenge aplenty as a country if you haven't noticed and it isn't to the sytem it is to our very way of life.
Leona,
Lets take a step back here and figure out who is responsible for this mess....
Lawmakers (Wealthy people) on both sides made it easier through deregulation for banks (Wealthy corporations), bankers (Wealthy people) and hedge fund managers (Wealthy people) to essentially bet on and steal the American people's money. This along with unfunded wars, an unfunded medicare part D program, tax cuts (for all but the main beneficiaries being...guess who...wealthy people), and a housing crisis caused by those same greedy wealthy bankers and law makers (from both sides) caused the destruction we currently see. As a result millions of middle class and poorer individuals lost their jobs because of greed. This problem wasn't started because of the middle and poorer classes...it was started by those who needed more wealth.
If your approach would rather be to cut social programs for the poor and needy....to school teachers...to our benefits....to the people who had NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MESS WE ARE IN....then you are either a) heartless b) stupid or c) another greedy, selfish, Republican.
I for one have no problem raising taxes on the wealthy....after all....they have benefited from the economic downturn and many of them played a key role in causing the economic downturn.
So Leona...if you feel good about supporting the rich I hope you find away to sleep well at night.
I know you think that rich people can pay for everyone. Unfortunately, that wont even make a dent in the debt problem . I am NOT a rich person, I work hard and have payed taxes for the last 30 years. As for the critics here, MOVE TO GREECE (you'll be happy there) and don't forget to bring extra rocks to throw at the police who will be tear-gassing you in the streets.
Leona,
Then you must have fallen under b) stupid. If you are not a rich person and you don't see how the wealthy are being taken care of at "our" expense then you are clueless. Understand...if the Republicans continue to bleed the money out of the middle class and the poor we will certainly see an uprising on our streets...
And I don't think that the rich should pay for everyone. Don't take my comments to the extreme. They should however be reined in and the loopholes and special tax breaks be eliminated. 1 tillion dollars over ten years for tax cuts to the wealthy.
Vipp: I don't get it. Asking the rich to pay more does NOT fix the problem. How does 1 trillion over 10 years fix anything when we have a 15 trillion deficit?!
I second that comment VIPP. It really takes a numbskull to read balance as BAD. We are all going to pay for this if we go over the cliff. It will make the 1930's look like a carnival ride.
THAT is what T-Pubs want. And they think they can grab the brass ring after the bomb goes off and storm the White House. Point in fact: there will be no brass ring to grab when the middle class is dissolved and there s no more America as we now know it.
If that little tax increase is so small then what's the problem?
The rich should be able to kick in a teeney-weeney little bit and not even notice.
the obama tax cuts, by law expire in 2013 why does the left think that the wealthy still have to pay for the benefits of the middle class and poor?
The left can't increase the FICA taxes that INDIVIDUALS pay to fully fund medicare and SS as a solution to their projected shortfalls? Does the left think that "fair share" applies only to the top 1 or 2%?
I see that many libs can't define "fair share", who the middle class are or what "affordable health care" is.
Interesting on how the left says kicking the can down the road 6 - 8 months is a bad thing on the debt ceiling but kicking it down the road to 2013 isn't. Then there is the howling about the rights plan to fix medicare unsustainability with vouchers, but no howling over obamacare issuing vouchers to those who can't afford insurance in 2014.
Boner surrendered to T-people waaaaaay before he walked on Obama. How do these people hold such sway over their leadership? A common goal of seeing this president fail and any Democratic idea die from suspended animation.
I tend to think the 14th amendment option might be worth the quick vote for articles of impeachment. We know they will continue to show their hind ends with the our way or no way mantra in which they are now entrenched. Force them to show middle class America MORE of just who they are and what they stand for. We all know but the independents still need convincing and when they see that side show, they'll know who really is working FOR THE PEOPLE and not just the rich, powerful and multinationals.
I vote to pull the 14th amendment trigger to call the T-Pub bluff and end this self-made crisis.
Don't wait Obama; do it now! End the uncertainty, ACT!
I may be a bimbo but has it occurred to anyone that the only reason why the tea party (hey tea rhymes with pee, we should flush these morons down the toilet) and republicans want to have a second debt ceiling vote next year is that they know as long as there is uncertainty with the future of this manufactured crisis businesses won't hire anyone. And if businesses don't hire then it's bad news for Obama. I remember speaker Boehner saying something to the effect of businesses need certainty so that they can expand. Looks like if the republicans get their way there will be another debt ceiling vote next year, which means uncertainty. So good luck to all of you who vote republican and are looking for a job because you won't get one. None of us will. Did I mention that tea rhymes with pee?
That's exactly why--keep the economy down, make it worse, cause chaos and make President Obama a one-term president. They don't care how much suffering it causes the American people.
Yet they scoff at the opportunity to create an atmosphere of certainty which is what they claim the November mandate was all about! They talk in circles and it's making me dizzy.
Bingo all around! There is no excuse for the theater that passes for governing these days in Washington of the right side of the aisle. Travesty, tragedy a.nd parody all in one Grover Norquist script
And all this time, I thought the only way to reduce spending and the decifit was to NOT raise the debt limit! What part of 'reduction' does Washington NOT understand. If we don't raise the debt limit, all the creditors will see that we mean business in getting our finances under control...so why would they cut our credit rating? If I am loaning someone money, I would take into account that they were curbing their spending by downsizing everything they had (car, house, boat, recreation, etc.). Why wouldn't the S&P do the same?? This just seems like common sense to me, but what do I know?
Well, at least you're all in agreement...that it's the other guy's fault...
Those who are so diligent in using their intellectual microscope and fine tooth comb to excoriate the "intransigent" opposition would be better served by looking at the log in their own camp's figurative eye.
If ever we see a conservative and a liberal here damn their own for their part in the idiocy that has brought us all to this point, then maybe the body politic will begin to call their "leaders" out on their posturing and gamesmanship.
It's the president's fault and his failing
It's the speaker's fault and his failing
It's the majority leader's fault and his failing
it is the radical wing of the two parties' fault and failing
I can only hope that we will be united in our mutual disappointment in those we elected
and trusted to put the good of the nation first.
Well My FR Friends (Navy, Feisty, AM, et al.) have a great weekend. I am going home and completing my bunker so i can hide out when the sh!t hits the fan!!
Thanks Bryan - it's been good having you back around!
I know you were missed by many!
*hugs* to the little ones...
So I come back from a week plus in the forest with nothing to worry about but bears and lo and behold both parties are playing politics and brinkmanship..
I think I'll pack back up and go back to the trees until this crap stops. By then I'll be 132 years old though.
so everybody go enjoy a good weekend, we may have soup and toilet paper lines next week. All you baggers hate socialism so much why are you driving us in that direction?
This is more and more reminding me of the final parade scene from Animal House. This is all going to end in chaos caused by a bunch of clowns and goof offs. I'm soon half expecting somebody from the GOP to start a speech with "Did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?" It would just be so fitting.
Balanced budget amendment is the killer! Boehner killed himself trying to appease the TEA party elite! This is important, so important I'll post this again:
World Bank chief commenting! Now that's news of interest! A representative of the World commenting! What should have been a "Congressional Housekeeping" Debt increase has turned into a "partisan three-ring circus" directly effecting the credit rating of the federal government. Where are US banks and who are they working with to fix this problem?
Reagan said:
"Unfortunately, Congress consistently brings the government to the edge of default before facing its responsibility. This brinkmanship threatens the holders of government bonds and those who rely on Social Security and veterans benefits. Interest markets would skyrocket. Instability would occur in financial markets and the federal deficit would soar.
"The United States has a special responsibility to itself and the world to meet its obligations. It means we have a well-earned reputation for reliability and credibility -- two things that set us apart in much of the world."
TEA party elite trashing America because God told them to!
Hey crying speaker tan man --- why weren't you so wound up about a balanced budget back when you were voting for all that spending from 2001 to 2007???
Is there anyone that is glad 50 tb's tell spoiled children like the liberals that sometime daddy does not have the money to throw away on personal likes and dislikes. We may need a few diiapers and bottles for a while, but, still, when there is no more money, some time, you stay home until some more money is saved. It is time people admit the US does not owe the world anything. We have saved the world in two world wars and now it is time for them to take care of themselves for a while. Obuma and the democrats have operated without a budget for 821 days just to cover their highly over spending our tax dollars. Need somwe time out for a few people, I guess.