After being assailed by some social-conservative groups, potential presidential contender and fierce states-rights advocate Gov. Rick Perry (R-TX) reversed his statement last week that he is "fine with" New York's new same-sex marriage law that he called the state's "business."
In an interview with socially conservative Family Research Council President Tony Perkins, Perry said he remains opposed to gay marriage and that he should have added "a few words" to clarify the statement.
"I probably needed to add a few words after that 'it's fine with me,' and that it's fine with me that a state is using their sovereign rights to decide an issue," Perry said according to FRC. "Obviously gay marriage is not fine with me. My stance hasn't changed."
In Aspen, Colo., last Friday, Perry won applause from a crowd of Republican donors for saying that if New Yorkers support the new law, it's "their call."
"Our friends in New York six weeks ago passed a statute that said marriage can be between two people of the same sex," he said on Friday. "And you know what? That's New York, and that's their business, and that's fine with me. That is their call. If you believe in the 10th Amendment, stay out of their business."
Perry's reversal is reminiscent of a similar clarification made by declared candidate Rep. Michele Bachmann during the a GOP debate in New Hampshire in June.
Bachmann initially responded to a question about the New York law, saying that she doesn't "see that it's the role of a president to go into states and interfere with their state laws."
But, she added after several other candidates weighed in on the matter, that she also supports a federal law defining marriage. "I do support a constitutional amendment on marriage between a man and a woman, but I would not be going into the states to overturn their state law."
Per FRC, the interview with Perkins was in the works before Perry's comments in Aspen and was planned in order to promote an August 6 prayer event in which both men are slated to participate.
Perkins is a co-chair of "The Response," advertised as a day of fasting and prayer at Reliant Stadium in Houston. Perry's role in the event is less clear, but he confirmed to reporters yesterday that he will attend.
More of the interview will air over the weekend on FRCradio.com.


Jesus H Christ onnna crutch!
Even PERRY isn't immune from the 'social conservatives'?
Good God, y'all!
Perry's got more skeletons in his closet then just same sex marriage to worry about:
ThinkProgress has assembled the top ten hits from Perry’s tenure as governor:
This guy is nothing more then a bible banging Bush 'light' who believes he can pray his way to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.!
Oh, I don't know, Governor Perry ... I'd say your stance has widened quite a bit.
Anna Molly, that's tooooo good!
"Perry said Texas might have to secede from the United States" And now he wants to be President of the Country he did not want to be part of. Whats wrong with this picture...... so many things.
He desperately tried to 'back' out of the stal...quietly!
Perry isn't immune to social conservatives because he is a social conservative or at least has pretended to be for years--he's got some pretty radical preachers coming to his big prayer fest August 6.
In the book of law according to the captive party, thou shall not speak or express thy self freely.
Has God told this Red Neck Cowboy to run yet?
God has a pretty long waiting list for endorsements. He'll get to it He'll get to it.
Ah, the litmus test of the Puritans begins. They are sewing the letter 'G' on his lapel for "gay lover" as we speak. Oh how the Teabaggers love state's rights until it is used for something other than segregation, prohibition, or heck, women's suffrage or right to choose, feudalism, or some backward thing. I say we throw the Teabaggers off a really high bridge and see if the witches float.
Someone who hears voices should not run for president...one day god will tell him to kill the chinese and muslims.
Come now Gov. Perry you do know the tight walk you need to scale when trying to appeal to liberatarians and social conservatives.
Mark...
How do you square his invocation of the Constitution on hand and denying rights contained in the same Constitution on the other.
I missed the anti-gay clause in the Constitution when i read it.
If there can be a "class of one" hidden in the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment -- Village of Willowbrook v. Olech (2000) -- for property disputes, you'd think they could find a little room in there for gays, as well, wouldn't you?
Anna Molly..
Correct me please...I'm a financial guy..
Re: Village of Willowbrook v. Olech
The Court held that the purpose of the equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment is to secure every person within the State's jurisdiction against intentional and arbitrary discrimination, whether occasioned by express terms of a statute or by its improper execution through duly constituted agents.
If that's right...there's a huge umbrella.
Go make an argument counselor..
You'd think so, wouldn't you, but you'll forgive me if I decline.
The Court ultimately realized what they had done and took it back for public employees -- Engquist v Oregon Dept. of Agriculture (2008)
Gays probably rank even lower on their agenda. We know that women do, too.
So, never mind.
Gotta run. See you later, Ira. Always a pleasure.
Anna Molly..
Not so sure of you're interpretation of Engquist v Oregon Dept. of Agriculture.
The Court did not totally dismiss the class of one but said it was to be decided on a case by case basis.
To me, that does not preclude protection under the 14th amendment...except for certain circumstances related to public employees.....
Ira - I don't try. He is hypocritcal in that he is trying to be all things to all conservatives. Eventually, he would say something to anger one of those groups.
In my mind and in the SCOTUS the 14th amendment is pretty clear about equal protection and treatment under the law for everyone.
Ira give him credit, he may not like all parts of the constitution but Perry loves portions like the 10th amendment and especially the 2nd amendment.
While the 14th is clear in my mind about equal protection and treatment under the law the second amendment in my mind is not so clear.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
In my mind that gives a person a right to legally have a gun for self defense but doesn't allow them to have chain guns, military weaponry and the excesses the NRA push.
Yellowdog-Mark D..
Geez man...you're beginning to sound like a liberal...
Now to immigration reform..lol
You're certainly entitled to your interpretation, Ira, and you are certainly right that it is to be decided on a case-by-case basis. But that's exactly what I believe doesn't give gays much hope within the 14th Amendment ... at least not with this Court. You'll recall that the Court turned over a bit between 2000 and 2008. My belief that Engquist was a results-oriented decision is perhaps best reinforced by the slightly earlier decision completely stripping public employees of their First Amendment rights in the workplace -- Garcetti v. Ceballos (2007). That decision upheld the firing of an Assistant District Attorney for speaking out during the course of performance of his job duties about what he perceived to be some shady doings in his own department. For employment purposes, the Court said public employees were to be treated exactly like private sector employees. In the absence of specific whistleblower protection by statute or common law, the ADA was toast.
Now that's a value no reasonable person wants to protect in the public workplace. (Sarcasm)
So, based on that history, I don't give them much credit for objectivity, but I do give them plenty of credit for being ideologues.
You'd think that, if there was any likelihood of a 14th Amendment case involving gays succeeding, the Log Cabin Republicans would have brought it by now. Remember that DADT has no possibility of being reviewed by the Court because of its posture in the Courts below -- i.e., the government, which lost below, will not appeal. If the government had won at the first level and elected to continue defending the law, DADT would, in my opinion, be in serious trouble.
You seem to trust the Court more than I do. In that way I am definitely more jaded than you. ;-)
By the way, if Lawrence v. Texas (2003) were decided again today, I think it would go the other way, as well.
RIck Perry:
"well, sure I'd suck one. Just not YOURS, I mean...."
DBO:
Is this how Perry shows his "huevos?" If so, he's a real pansy.
They must've taken him out to the wood shed and beat the crap out of him. Frankly, this kind of screw up should finish his so far undeclared candidacy.
You just can't make this stuff up.
I think you man Cajones
Huevos are eggs
frank:
Spanish slang for testicles: huevos.
Gov. Rick Perry produces yet another "toilet flush" sound for the GOP/Teabagger Party...
First Read nit picks what the Governor said, it was not a "backtrack".
What else can you expect from the NBC Lean Far Left networks.
Ignoring the bigger story, as usual:
Politico:
Business Journals relays the latest economic trophy for the Lone Star State and its governor:
Bob, Bob, Bob:
About the bigger story - Maybe you should check whether a great deal of that job growth didn't come in the public sector. Maybe you should check and see how many of those jobs were created as a consequence of the stimulus package that Perry used to balance his budget.
Come on Bob. It's the bigger story, just like you said. Go look and get back to us.
As far as the smaller story - you know, the one about Perry kissing the collective posterior of the right-wing crazies - you're right! It is not news that a Republican candidate will stoop that low.
A little leavening to that, and just for balance:
http://swampland.time.com/2011/06/27/the-cracks-in-rick-perrys-job-growth-record/
Perry’s biggest tool for job raiding is controversial. Beginning in 2003, he persuaded the Texas legislature to give him control over several massive, largely unsupervised funds that provide subsidies to businesses that move to Texas. His office proudly claims that the two biggest funds have created more than 54,000 jobs in the past eight years. “They’ve been immensely important to our state’s economic development,” says Catherine Frazier, Perry’s deputy press secretary. “This is about attracting jobs and making Texas a destination for companies to relocate and expand.”
The largest fund, the Texas Enterprise Fund, was created in 2003 and has awarded some $412 million in subsidies to companies nominally to create jobs. A December 2010 analysis by the Texas comptroller found that $119 million of that money went to companies that didn’t deliver on the jobs they promised. The governor’s office took back only $21 million from those underperformers, often choosing to define downward the job-creation requirements. GOP Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, whom Perry beat in last year’s GOP gubernatorial primary, called revelations that taxpayer-funded contracts sent money overseas to create jobs “disturbing” and “unacceptable.”
The second major fund under Perry’s control, the Texas Emerging Technology Fund, has also proven controversial since its creation in 2005. It has spent some $320 million on tax credits and other subsidies for high-tech companies willing to move to Texas. An October 2010 investigation by the Dallas Morning News found that $16 million of that money was awarded to companies with investors or officers who are large campaign donors. Perry denied that politics influenced the awarding of money from the funds. He succeeded in fending off efforts to cut his massive subsidy fund budgets in the legislative session that ended last month, but the legislature did impose new controls and oversight on the funds.
Even those subsidy-chasing companies that do produce jobs don’t necessarily create long-lasting ones or increase a state’s overall prosperity. While 18% of all jobs in the U.S. failed to last the five years from 2001 to 2006, 26% of jobs created through interstate moves failed during the same period, according to researchers Jed Kolko of the Public Policy Institute of California and Donald Walls, a consultant and researcher.
Professor Michael Porter of Harvard Business School says tax-credit funds used to lure jobs from one state to another often “ultimately don’t support long-term prosperity” because companies that can move easily “are looking for the best deal, and when the deal runs out, they move,” taking their jobs with them. Anti-corporate-welfare advocates, like Greg LeRoy, executive director of the Washington-based group Good Jobs First, say the tax-credit game is worse than zero sum, because when a company gets a tax credit to move to a new state, the departed state loses jobs, while the destination state’s residents get stuck with higher taxes or worse services.
Frazier says there’s a larger purpose served by the funds. “Companies that receive taxpayer dollars are creating and pursuing technologies that are not only going to be good for our state but for the nation and the world,” she says. “Texas is creating a model for the rest of the nation to follow, both on the state level and the federal level.” Which leaves Perry in the odd position of arguing that the proper model for job creation nationwide includes funneling taxpayer money to companies partly to develop technologies that will better the world — even if that money has an inconsistent effect on job creation or on overall per capita prosperity growth. Which is exactly what the rest of the Republican presidential field is criticizing Barack Obama for doing.
(emphasis added)
I suspect no joe, who criticized President Obama the other day for exactly this same thing, might be interested in this article. Or maybe not.
Perry backtracks on "same sex marriage"
He already backtracked on "God calling him to run"
Guess his next reversal will be in regards to "Everything is bigger in Texas"....
What about Mayor Bloomberg's statement that Republicans should get on board with same-sex marriage because it alligns correctly with their stance on a smaller, less intrusive government?
I mean, after all, if you're going to ban gay marriage isn't that government getting into someone's personal life by telling them who they can and can not marry?
The largest number of jobs created in the last few years have been in Texas, no state taxes, busniness's from other states are moving there in large numbers! The man is doing something right! He is a popular Governor and there have been several groups of people from other states urging him to run, I will give him a chance. Anyone would be better than what we have now in the White House. When Bill Mayer and Jon Stewart start "coming down" on Obama and saying that they are disapointed in him like I heard the other night then we know we have another "Jimmy Carter" on our hands. He is an UNQUALIFIED person for this job and I hope in the next election people will have enough sense to elect someone that has run a successful business or governed a state and knows how to balance a budget and get a hold on the spending! Nearly three years in office and NO budget!
I will urge Perry to run Into the Gulf of Mexico
Perry is a pansy. Caved to the social issues crazy guys. He got beat up with a rubber hose....probably needs surgery for his knee caps.
Yup. He's really going to be a great candidate. He can double schedule all his events: speaking engagement on Monday, corrections/retractions/apologies on Wednesday. Repeat for Tuesday/Thursday...
Gotta say, though, it makes for a great spectator sport....
I wish someone would realize that Perry is not popular, only in certain circles. Our districts have been gerrymandered to the point that some look like strings of spaghetti. Perry would not even talk to the media, wouldn't release his tax records, nor would he debate and these wingnuts still voted for him. He created low wage jobs with no security or protection , using stimulus money, but he would not accept education money.
I know that song goes something like "...deep in the heart of Texas..." but after listening to Perry back that thang up in the presence of Perkins, it's looking more like "...deep in the colon of Texas..." because Perry is taking it like a champ!
I don't know if that is just a weird conisidence or what?
Tony Perkins is just another slug that makes money off of division and hate. Please look at the list of nuts that this man invited to Houston next month and see if your vision of America is the same.
Perry sure is backtracking. He is in a bind due to his Prayer Day scheduled for Aug6
http://governor.state.tx.us/news/press-release/16246/
Moonbat deflections aside, Governor Perry is in his third term and his tenure has been a huge success. The Texas economy is the envy of states like California.
Obama's policies have been a disastrous failure, even the moonbats know they cant defend it.
For 2012, all the leftists have will be attacks and mudslinging..they will all be in the gutter with "Feisty Redhead" and the Soros-funded toilet known as ThinkProgress.
Bob, did some fact checking, California is still #1 with the largest economy. Texas still has a deficit like the rest of the country, still has high unemployment. still has a Governer that wanted to secede from the country, hangs his hat with religious nut bags and can not make up his mind about gays, good or bad. As for Obama's policies be specific about how they have been failures and which ones are his and not GW. How successful are you, how about great ideas instead of complaints and you preace about attacks and mudslinging. I hope you do not claim to be Christian. Judge not least you be judge, how about we look into your past and see what we can find. See how much of a glass house you live in to be throwing stones. The easiest thing to do is pick up a stone and toss it. Its a lot harder to pick up that stone and build something with it.
Perry lies about everything including his successes. We have more uninsured in Texas than in most other states. Yeah, we have lots of low wage jobs.Nurses working at hospitals can't even afford to get care where they work. Mostly everyone works more than one job and a rasher of bacon costs upwards of 9 dollars. Is there a shortage of pigs in our country too? Keep a close eye on him, that's all I'm saying.
Bob, uh NO, have you ever been in Texas? I am a natural born Texan and I can tell you that he is full of BS. No one that I have spoken to, no matter which side of the aisle they are on, wants Perry to be President. He is a fraud and his is a member of the "good ole boy gang" which includes, Bush, Cheney, Rove and the Koch Brothers. I would love it if we had term limits for Governor. I would love it if this piece of lying trash was not the Governor. There is no way in Hades that I would vote for that man. You think that Bush was bad? This guy would make Bush look like a genius.
I forgot BIGOTRY. The third dependable plank of the new Republican Party is BIGOTRY. (In addition to WAR as a constant AND PRISONS as the most dependable social program.) There is always bigotry.
Also ,NBC please remind people that in 2008,Rick Perry mandated that all girls under the age of 12 in the State of Texas get vaccinated with a drug called gardasil . It was his attempt to hand the $100 per vaccination over to Merck pharmaceutical co.There was enough outcry in the State of Texas that Rick Perry failed at his cash giveaway to Merck. So much for "government off my back".
A Rick Perry supporter here in Texas was in line to make big bucks off of that particular law. Perry doesn't care about who lives or dies as long as he prospers.
And, Daryl, either the (R)'s believe in keeping the Gubmint outta my private life er they don't.
Pro Patria-
Remember that a Republican NEVER wants the government to touch his pocketbook. But he is just FINE with the government all over our private parts. Funny, they want parental control over the decison of a child rape victim as to whether she aborts but are just fine with freezing out the parents as to whether the child gets injected with Merck's $100 drug. Religion good, parents good, MONEY BETTER!!
Republicans aren not "fine with the government all over our private parts" We want the TSA searches to stop remember!
Another flip flop-per... like Romney...he just lost 48% of who would vote for him ... he is for everything before he was against it ! And then he drags in his religious cult member status ...He just lost another 18% of the people who would vote for him ..so he is a non starter right out of the gate !
So it's like he was against of before he was for it before he was against it before he was--------- ?????????????
Rick -- is plad is your favorite color?
I truly hope and pray that we don't reward those nuts for what they're doing to thiscountry.
Surprised? Another doma-sexual in the GOP.
This must mean that you are a domaphobe!.... That is unfortunate!
Didn't care for him as a Democrat and like him even less as a Republican.I will confess that imprint of his image on the hind end of that horse he rides on the TV ad is amazing though. Hmmm just saw it again and it sure looks like him!!!
Much-a-do about NOTHING.....backtrack or political MEDIA posturing....you decide
The man says state rights and voters in the given STATE decide this policy.......
FUNNY - - - LIBs are scared that a true conservative with an excellent record on job creation will contend against one of the two worst Presidents in our history.........Obama, Carter respectively
MSNBC - - - pushing their agenda a bit hard on this one....
Sorry, but that title belongs exclusively to GW Bush.
Michelle speaks out of bot hsides of her mouth. One one hand she says she would not interfere with state marragie laws. On the other hand she calls for a Marriage Amendment to the fereal constitution that does precisely that.
Which Michelle Bachmann do you believe..the state's rights one or the Federal mandate one?
Can't be both.
Thank you Anna Molly for your post on Perry's business record.
After hearing that explanation I may end up jumping on the Perry Bandwagon again... Not sure yet though... I support DOMA
Be very careful of what you wish for. If you think that we are in trouble now, Perry would only make things a thousand times worse. He, like bush, have no brains of their own. He would be the perfect puppet for the Tea Party. Last time I checked, The Tea Party has created enough of a mess right now.
We are in trouble--Everyone on the Right simply hates Obama, and everyone on the Left is rightfully afraid of the fascist rhetoric from the Right. The public in general is disgusted at the moment with Texas politicians who want to be President--GWB taught us a lesson about Texas cures for governing on a national and international scale. OUCH ! With Perry, as it always has been with most Texans, and especially its politicians, its all about vanity and ego. In Texas he's a Big Fish in a pond, but like Bush just a minnow in the deeper waters of national and international politics..Sad ! Right now , this Independent Texan is leaning (for the very first time ) for Obama in 2012 .
What everybody's overlooking is the long-time (and very strong) rumor that Perry is a closeted gay. It was repeatedly alleged that his wife was divorcing him over his relationship with a male member of his staff (no pun intended), but he paid her off to drop the divorce. Do I care? Not really, except for the monumental hypocrisy...
It pretty much works that the most anti-gay Republicans are gays themselves. It has just been that way time after time. All my gay friends have been laughing about Michele Bachmann's husband, Marcus. When you hear him talk, watch his mannerisms, they said that he is a fellow gaybro. All I can say is, Ricky and Marcus, come out of the closet and embrace your gaydom.
Anyone who would elect Louis Gohmert for anything other than "buttwiper" and "cowturdtosser" shows their complete and utter lack of any intelligence. After the last retard you all sent to screw us (under GW, we got hit with our worst terrorist attack, our economy spiraled into an abyss while he was clearing brush on the ranch, he gave tax cuts and a prescription drug plan and started two wars, all without any way of paying for them, and this is just a small list of his major accomplishments), forgive me if I don't want to ever even see a Texan for the rest of my life.
Texas wanted to secede and for God's sake, please let them. Good riddance to bad rubbish I say.
Linda, please do not use such generalities.. Not all Texans are red neck, radical trash like the Tea Party. Many of us voted against Perry. I do admit that we are outnumbered but we keep trying. It was only after the last election that we heard rumors that Karl Rove had been working for Perry. I would love it if he were not in the Governors office but, I would hate it if he scammed the Country and became President.
I also live in Texas and think Gohmert and Perry are terrible politicians from this State. I saw a comment yesterday from someone living in Bachmann's district who feels the same way about her, asking that not all people in the area be lumped together with those who voted for her. Sure, there are areas of Texas which are behind the times (and want to stay that way), but I think we could turn this State blue again if everybody voted (that is, if they're still allowed to vote!).