So GOP/TP People we have CEO's, Wall Street, Banks and 80% of the American people telling you to stop the crap and compromise. What is it that you do not understand?? You AINOS "Americans in Name Only" are on the wrong side of the fence.

You promised to listen to the people - whose people, apparently not the American People.

GOP/TP=> "Ameicans in Name ONLY" that is your new moniker.

Not a woman CEO signing the letter---talk about a glass ceiling.

Repeal that ridiculous Frank/Dodd Act as well.....

Navy, you cant in one post talk about the evil CEOs, Wall Street and nasty banks and then in the next use them as credible sources for a position you want. Which is it, you trust them or you dont. By the way, no response from you yet on Soros avoiding Frank Dodd?

Looks like the clowns on the left are finally speaking out. The Jokers on the right continue to want to take this country down. Pundits say the Boehner bill has a 50-50 chance of passing. My bet is it will go down.

But, but, but the reporter for FOX News last night said nothing bad will really happen if we default.

I hope it does go down in the House Ron. It will cement the incompetence of the GOP/TP in the minds of the American people.

Now we here from those who will be hurt the worst by default. The republican constituency.

Feisty's right - the world need more Move On and Think Progress. But hey, it's good to see "we" have progressed from merely evil to traitorous. Steppin' up. They must be getting down right hysterical over at Think Progress.

It used to be "the sky is falling, the sky is falling." Now the Libbie Littles all chant "the tit is drying up, the tit is drying up."

So libbies what should the debt ceiling be? $20 trillion? $50? How about infiniti?

Can some one please explain how Boehner's extension for 6 month is no good, cause it causes too much uncertainty, whereas Reid extension for 18 months is fantastic.

Especially since neither actually address the problem - entitlements.

A well either way we are doomed. Not a leader in sight. Too bad.

Hey Barack...Your boss Jamie is on the phone.

Let's have a clean debt-ceiling raise.

After Speaker Boehner's bill raising the debt ceiling passes today, only Senate Democrats will be standing between this legislation, and President Obama's desk.

Raising the debt ceiling is a fiscal policy issue. Given the urgency of the matter, I don't see why the President wouldn't be able to accept a two-increment increase ahead of the 2012 elections...since his objections to this method appear to be purely political in nature.

The fact that President Obama doesn't want to deal with the debt ceiling again before his reelection campaign kicks into full gear is unfortunate...but the truth is, common practice has been that the period between debt ceiling increases has been less than a year.

The President should keep his eye on the ball...the important thing here is getting the ceiling raised immediately.

He should not be worrying about when the next increase will be necessary...and he should make that clear to Senate Democrats. In any event, Senator Reid doesn't have 60 Senate votes for his alternative plan to raise the debt ceiling...it won't even pass Harry's own branch of Congress, let alone both.

It's simple...the sooner the Boehner bill reaches the President's desk, the sooner the President can get his debt ceiling increase.

Only under this inept Non-Leader would these types of things occur. He has not only weakened us to the world, he is a total and utter embarrassment. That's what happens when you vote in a smoke-'n-mirrors do-nothing academia type of guy.

Damned right the banks are worried. If we don't have a budget, how do we bail them out the next time they blow up the economy?

Just remember, Red; "it takes two to tango."

Obama needs to be willing to bend / compromise on some of these issues also.

In a prior letter these guys urged Pres. Obama to concede more, and the TP to demand more, and more hostages as this tactic is good for the economy!

Full snark on!

Dang Mixed, the ONLY thing standing between a Clean Debt Ceiling Vote & the Presidents desk is the GOP House of Representatives!

Why is it that They don't wanna Pay for what they previously appropreated Years ago?

Can anyone on the RIGHT answer that question?

I have a feeling it's because yall don't Pay your Bills, You expect everyone else to!

Just remember, Red; "it takes two to tango."

Obama needs to be willing to bend / compromise on some of these issues also.

WTF?

J. Merle, The Dems are the only ones doing any bending! Sorry, but if they (we) bend anymore it will be over. "Hey is that the whole fist Doc"? Time for the GOTP to do some bending. The Tea Bags have no interest in compromise they think they are going to "WIN". Win what? A collapsed economy? Gee Thanks!

Rick,Ky: Dang Mixed, the ONLY thing standing between a Clean Debt Ceiling Vote & the Presidents desk is the GOP House of Representatives!

Well, that, and someone to write the bill, like Congress.

Lets say that the Senate gets the ball rolling and they write and pass a "Clean" bill that raises the debt ceiling by $2.5 trillion. Lets see how that plays out across the country.

Of course Obama would threaten to veto that one too, he promised to veto anything that didn't include raising taxes.

Damned right the banks are worried. If we don't have a budget, how do we bail them out the next time they blow up the economy?

One Page Legislation - TARP II

Give us the money or else

It's simple...the sooner the Boehner bill reaches the President's desk, the sooner the President can get his debt ceiling increase.

No, it's a bad bill. It should not pass the Senate. The 14th may come into play.

JS1, i'm pretty sure it'd play very well across America & the World. However in the State of Denial from which most of you Righties live, it'd be just another hypicritical letdown from your elected Reps.

Such as, but not Only:

Where are the Job's from which these taxcuts were expected to Produce?

Where is that iraqi Oil that was gonna pay for playing in the Sandbox( GWB's museam will have a Trillion Dollar Pistol to look at)?

I guess now that Binladen "sleeps with da fishes", we can all get rid of the Ducttape & plastic, heck ya!

JS1, why is that you Righties want everyone else to pay for Your Mistakes?

Ronnie RayGun armed BinLaden, only to have it BlowUp in Americas face some 20 years later.

If your gonna takeon something JS1, make sure you can Pay for it!

Rick,Ky:JS1, i'm pretty sure it'd play very well across America & the World.

A reduction in the countries bond rating is nearly assured. Do you think borrowing trillions of dollars wouldn't have it's consquences Rick.

Speaking of paying for things, just what is Obama spending all that money he borrows on? We know Social Security was in jeopardy without borrowed dollars, Obama said so himself. We know the failed 2009 Recovery and Reinvestment Act wasn't paid for. Does that fall under your "make sure you can Pay for it" rant? And how about Nancy Pelosi, who is 2006 said that she would not start new programs without paying for them, passed something called "PayGo", and proceeded to deficit spend to the tune of $5 trillion dollars in 4 years - does that fall under your "make sure you can Pay for it" rant?

To many questions too fast Rick? Take your time figuring them out because like Obama, you've got nothing but time.

FRANK/DODD REGULATING BANKS ARE YOU KIDDING????

In 2003, while the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee, Frank opposed a Bush administration proposal, in response to accounting scandals, for transferring oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac from Congress and the Department of Housing and Urban Development to a new agency that would be created within the Treasury Department. The proposal, supported by the head of Fannie Mae, reflected the administration's belief that Congress "neither has the tools, nor the stature" for adequate oversight. Frank stated, "These two entities ...are not facing any kind of financial crisis ... The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."^[62] In 2003, Frank also stated what has been called his "famous dice roll":^[63] "I do not want the same kind of focus on safety and soundness [in the regulation of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac] that we have in the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency and the Office of Thrift Supervision. I want to roll the dice a little bit more in this situation towards subsidised housing."^[64]

Hey, All of you that signed that letter, how many of you still owe America money from your bank bailout? Then shudup

JAS1,

Iraq, Afghanistan, Tax Cuts, TARP - they were funded or did we borrow to pay for those? Simple question for a simple person. Would you be able to answer this without going off topic and trying to somehow make Obama responsible for them?

Mixed Bag agree with some of your post. I'm glad you see the uncertainty factor that these bank presidents warn about.

My take is that the reason we shouldn't have the two step increase is can our economy take six more months of uncertainty? An immediate debt increase today would give us a reprieve for a month or so then all these talks and showdowns/theater will begin again. You know you can't have that uncertainty and unfriendly business atmosphere that the GOP likes to pin on Obama.

Personally, if I was President I would not veto the bill. Whew hard to say that.

For the good of the country Obama should sign a bill if it is the last/only recourse.

For the partisans like myself... Take the $900 billion in cuts over 10 years and then fight for limited cuts with Congressional Dem support in those super committees. Then use this whole fiasco as a campaign issue. Bully pulpit this to death in his rallies and campaign events.

What a bunch of experts we have on the liberal left side. NavyBoy, which argument is correct with you: the bankers are evil, or credible? And you continue to regurgitate old lines of old talking points.

By the way, are you willing to share with the community your retired rank and percentage of disability?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Yellowdog-Mark D - you are correct, the uncertainty is the main problem for companies growth and hiring.

What is hurting me and others here in my town that I know that run businesses is we need consumers. No one likes taxes but that is not what is hurting us, it is lack of consumers. Our hope is the unemployment goes down and people start to spend, it would be awesome for our business and the country. Rather than the trickle down affect it would be more like the bubble up economics. People get jobs, they spend money (sales tax too), I make money and grow and can maybe add a few people and suddenly we have more consumers. The tax base would improve which might in turn eventually give us a relief on taxes but none of this can happen until the jobs come back and we can spend again. 2/3 of the nations economy is consumption.

Rick,Ky

Where is that iraqi Oil that was gonna pay for playing in the Sandbox( GWB's museam will have a Trillion Dollar Pistol to look at)?

the harder thing for me to stomach from your statement is that the George W Bush Pres. Library is being built across the street from me and my balcony from my building which overlooks it. Even worse he lives a mile form me.

Rick 1960,

Thanks for the comment, my fellow north Texan. Honestly I don't know how they got the floor area ratio and parking to work for that musuem site.

Yellowdog - Mark D:

The ratio of parking to floor area requirement was waived. The justification was that only Texans who could read would use the parking lot. It turns out the parking area is grossly over-sized.

@Rick, KY - oh, not pay their bills - like Joe "Tea Party" Walsh being over 100K behind on CHILD SUPPORT???? Hmmm....that's illegal....doesn't Tea Party claim that illegal behavior means arrest? Punishment? Hell, if he doesn't give a rat's posterior for his own kids, why should he care what happens to yours???

Remember, Mark-

The bipartisan "Gang Of Six" is still working on a long-term plan for $4 trillion in spending cuts and the complete reform of the tax code in an effort to increase economic growth, with a resulting increase in revenue to the federal government.

If they produce such a plan, it will satisfy the financial markets that the U.S. is serious about addressing its long-term debt problem.

President Obama should accept the Boehner plan in order to raise the debt ceiling now...plenty can happen in the next six months.

The President should be worrying about the next six DAYS...instead of his reelection campaign.

How about if the Dems Repeal Frank/Dodd first....

Banks are calling......i should guess profits are dwindling e.g Goldman Sachs. but they never said they're ready to give up tax subsidies. "crack politicians" listen to one of your "crack constituent"

UAW Pleeeeeeeease

what lesson/s did you learnt from the last financial collapse......nothing right? So your in support of reckless, fraudulent and pick pocketing financial practices. kudos.

Banks don't care about Frank/Dodd, no teeth and they know it. Why do you think Russ Feingold and Mary Cantwell fought so hard against it?

Too big to fail is alive and well.

Dodd/Frank is a disaster, written by the big brained folks that brought us Frannie and Freddie. Say, Freddie and Fannie must have righted the ship and be doing fine now, right? Sure don't hear too much about them in the news these days. Huh?

Pius, when you refer to "tax subsidies" and Goldman Sachs, what are you referencing?

Pius, I wonder, have you ever calculated a depreciation schedule or enjoy capital gain income on a regular basis?

UAW - We were told in 2008 that we needed TARP and the bank bailouts. Fine...but you then can't go back to business as usual and repeal Frank/Dodd.

FYI

Only 52 or so regulation/rules in Frank-Dodd have been written/implemented. The other 350 or so have yet to be written. If you think it means nothing or has no teeth just ask a the commercial real estate market which feeling the pains from was has been implemented. Not to mention the mutal fund managers or your boy Soro who has stopped being a hedge fund manager so doesn't have to comply with the SEC rules. All Dodd-Frank does is further stall the recovery (which is not here yet btw) and will make it harder for business to operate.

Dodd-Frank is as big of POS as Obamacare!!

If Frank-Dodd is a burden, considering the last epic financial meltdown, don't we need at least some measures to cub excesses and on wall street hold the players responsible? Just don't get it.

spanky, market has been stable for some time now. recent market uncertainty is politically manipulated with help coming from wall street rogues. the powerful corporation wants to make us believe some kind of regulatory measures is hindering business but not hindering their personal pockets.

Checkout the hedge fund managers coffers and tell me if this is not greed. Depreciation is real and it will be like that for sometime. e.g the housing market is the big burden on the economy and still hasn't bottomed out yet in my opinion. The way out is creating jobs which has been derailed by this nonsense purposely infused to further create uncertainty.

Attacks on Frank-Dodd are justified only in that it did not go far enough.

Provisions should be added to it:

1. Repeal the Federal exemption from anti-trust enforcement for insurance companies;

2. Set a five-year plan to break off the investment banking and insurance businesses from commercial banking (essentially, reinstating the major provisions of the Glass-Steagall Act);

3. Toughen regulation of derivatives marketing;

4. Prohibit credit default swaps.

These are some of the principal areas that brought about the 2007-2008 collapse. While it is fashionable for the right to claim that poor people getting mortgages they couldn't afford is why the collapse happened, a comprehensive review of the facts shows otherwise. There simply weren't enough unqualified borrowers to account for a crash of greater than $14 trillion, no matter how much some think the poor, as always, are to blame.

FRANK/DODD??? With out that idiot Barney Frank we could have avoided the housing crisis back in 2003......

In 2003, while the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee, Frank opposed a Bush administration proposal, in response to accounting scandals, for transferring oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac from Congress and the Department of Housing and Urban Development to a new agency that would be created within the Treasury Department. The proposal, supported by the head of Fannie Mae, reflected the administration's belief that Congress "neither has the tools, nor the stature" for adequate oversight. Frank stated, "These two entities ...are not facing any kind of financial crisis ... The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."^[62] In 2003, Frank also stated what has been called his "famous dice roll":^[63] "I do not want the same kind of focus on safety and soundness [in the regulation of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac] that we have in the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency and the Office of Thrift Supervision. I want to roll the dice a little bit more in this situation towards subsidised housing."^[64]

John A: Agree with everything you posted.

Pietro:

TOUCHE'

Right on the money just like we said about Wall Street. Birds of a feather flock together and their childeren are not behaving like adults.

I know Pietro, I got this one.

the answer is not you or Navy. And probably not all those fine upstanding citizens that thought they could afford a $500,000 house on a $30,000 salary.

Funny thing is two of the champions of those evil banks were/are Frank and Dodd. Oh and as Bryan learned just yesterday, Little Timmy Geitner as well.

Oh and Navy, I don't think "touche" means what you think it means.

The president cares about what they think, a lot...

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http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/contrib.php?cycle=2012&id=N00009638

Obama pushing behind scenes to win over big-dollar donors

Campaign officials are working to broaden Obama’s network of “bundlers,” the well-connected rainmakers tasked with soliciting big checks from wealthy donors, while seeking to preserve the aura of a grass-roots movement by luring back the kind of small Internet donations that helped shatter fundraising records four years ago.

To do so, Obama and his aides are leveraging every asset available to a sitting president — from access to top West Wing officials to a possible food tasting with the White House chef.

Much of the fundraising in recent weeks has occurred at targeted events designed to appeal to specific groups, many of which have expressed frustration with administration policies, including Jews, gays and business leaders. Obama has attended 28 fundraisers from coast to coast — a pace that could continue, or even accelerate, over the next several months.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/obama-pushing-behind-scenes-to-win-over-big-dollar-donors/2011/06/24/AGO5NGoH_story.html

The real adults know that politicians are all the same when it comes to big money...

So Pietro and Navy are not adults?

Come on Dangerfield - everybody knows Obama is all about the "little" donors. $20, $30 a shot.

He would never,ever suck up to greedy corporate and banking bastards. He would never hire them in his administration or even associate with them.

I know, cause that's what I learned here at First Read.

Spanky,

I am now learning why you only respond in short, but precise statements. The left can't comprehend much more at a time.

Brevity wins over wind-bag extended comments any time.

The real adults know that politicians are all the same when it comes to big money...

I guess I will have to start calling you Mr. dangerfield from now on. I would point out sir that the key word in the sentence is politicians. That modifier, all, is pretty important too.

Of course Glenn Beck would jump at the opportunity to belittle anyone with an ounce of common sense.

And quite frankly DBO, i am disappointed that GB happened to "be on" when you started the car. Is there something you're not telling us? LOL!

McCain finally acts like a senior statesman and his own party turns on him. Geesh.

The Maverick is back!

". Is there something you're not telling us? LOL!"

That did cross my mind. That someone would sniff that out. But really- when I shut it off in the morning, Bob and Tom are on (a comedy team morning show out of Indy, in case they are not in your town). And me- I love comedy. That's why I left Beckerhead on when I got in again....

So let's pick, shall we guys?

Either the Tea Party is running the show and controlling the republican party - as reflected in the topic of the day, OR it it is a worthless party. Pick.

Say anyone recall the good old days when it was all about the republican party that marched in "lockstep?" Christ Feisty typed that word so many times I bet her L is plum wore out.

And gosh drive by if both the Tea Party and the republicans are indeed worthless, what does that say about the democrats and Obama?

Or is all this debt ceiling, debt and deficit stuff the dems' idea of a good time.

Bryan - don't be too hard on DBO - he loves him some Hannity too.

DBO, It's all good. I was just busting b@ll$. I get your love of comedy by reading your posts regularly. Keep it up.

Bryan - don't be too hard on DBO - he loves him some Hannity too.

When i want irrelevant banter about absolutely nothing, i tune him in too. But i would never be caught dead listening to the drivel spewed by that chowder-head glenn beck. Notice i can't even capitalize his first and last name that is how much disdain i have for him.

Holy hell Bryan you sure showed him!

Now, you feel better? I bet you totally do.

That's power. Do you capitalize Geitner's name? How about Lehman?

Fun stuff, right?

Spanks,

At least i don't like other guys junk in my mouth as you reported to "love" in a later thread (#8.5). Touche i believe?

What's the matter Bryan, Ms. Bryan little cold?

There are of course two players in the tea bag, the bagger and the baggee.

So now you employ the Drive By route? Can't talk on the merits so go with the gay slurs?

You could instead stick it me by not capitalizing the S.

You are better than that, yesterday's little set back aside.

Spanky,

There were no mertis to address in your comment. Don't you consider that a tad hypocritical considering your seeming inablility to stay on topic? Besides, i'm not the one suggesting i like being the "baggee".

Now, Now, boys- play nice. You two are starting to sound like you might not like eachother.

Like Martin and Lewis wound up.

Or Boehner and Cantor.

Or 'Baggers and humans.....

Good post, Bryan---glad to see you having the time to chime in here. Hope all is well with the kiddos and your saintly wife!

As Thom Hartmann always says, "We're great! But we'll get better!"

The twins are getting big fast. Sleeping almost completely through the night at 4 months. God send they really are.

Thanks Steeler Fan.

"Get out and vote. As often as humanly possible for everything possible"

...And you wonder why the polls show overwhelming support for a voter ID at the polls...You moonbats dont even try to hide your desire for vote fraud....

Bob, you are an ignorant fool. WHERE THE F*(K IN MY POST DID I ENCOURAGE ANYONE TO COMMIT VOTER FRAUD?

Problem with you Bob, is that you have less than average intelligence. And you prove it here every day.

Ah Bryan but the dems did vote - for obamacare.

You all made the bed, so you might as well lie down and enjoy it.

You are having fun right? You kinda knew that forcing through Obamacare would have consequences, right.

Waivers and small business pulling their health care, rising costs, buracratic nightmares aside, you all should really thank Pelosi for this fun.

I know I am.

Spanky,

I am not talking about Obamacare. I'm talking general and midterm elections. Thanks for contributing nothing to the conversation, as usual. But hey, it makes you feel better now doesn't it?

There is no wide spread voter fraud. It's a myth fabricated by the Republican-Tea Baggers in order to keep people from voting.

The biggest voter fraud case took place in Fl. during the 2000 election.

Ah Bryan, try to see the big picture. The only reason we are here now, with a large republican House majority is Pelosi's stewardship/obamacare.

So yeah, knowledge and understand does make me feel better. Probably not as ggod as not capitalizing Beck's name, or implying that I'm gay does for you, but to each his own, right Bryan?

Knowledge and understanding? A true narcissist will try and turn someones words against them. I was trying your shoes on for a change. Don't like them much. They're much too small.

And for the record, i did give you the opportunity to refute my claim, but in typical fashion, you just avert the question, which gives me the answer i was seeking. Sometimes you are your own worst enemy.

Avert? He (Spankie) ain't even started yet, Bryan- I mean, has he asked you how many Volts you have in your stable yet??

Hey, Spankie-nator- what's in the old tumbler today? Scotch? Crown??

Spanky - do us all a favor and lose your driver's license.

Kirk--you have to purchase the secret spy decoder ring to find out!

Kirk - it is a secret code used by 'the gang'.

Is there some secret code that the gang uses to say "your turn"?

Jesus Kirk!

Does the paranoia ever reach a conclusion? lol

Not me, I could care less. I was hoping it was going to lead to a porn cite.

Not me, I could care less. I was hoping it was going to lead to a porn cite.

XXX = DNC.com

I thought it was the Libs r us thought process. Or

A libbie voting present?

Post in the wrong place.

"Be sure to drink your Ovaltine."

xxxx

Spanky: A libbie voting present?

A libbie's signature. "XXX". First initial, middle initial, last initial.

w bush:xxxx

The last "X" is this case means "Jr."

It's titles from the C Street house DVD collection- how many times I gotta tell you?

(Ovaltine? A curmmy comercial??)

Spanky,

What's a Libsrus? Is that like a snark?

The only person who has destroyed the soul of America, if it has one, is Barack Hussein Obama. He is a failed incompetent president. His supporters are mainly people who pay no taxes whatsoever or people who are completely on the federal, state, or local government dole. There are exceptions, e.g., 70% of atheists and agnostics support Obama. These people could care less if Obama wants to raise taxes as long as their largesse is untouched. This might just be the "soul of America", if America ever had a soul.

Take your blinders off, Mr. Delicate Senisibilites.

On this page alone, Bob referred to Liberals as moonbats.

Kirk - the Tea Partyers referred to THEMSELVES as 'Teabaggers', probably in reference to the tea bags that they stapled to their hats when demonstrating.

Of course, once they found out what 'Teabagging' REALLY meant, they have been trying to change the narrative ever since. Unfortunately, the term 'Teabagger' has stuck, so no matter what the Tea partyers do, they will ALWAYS be known as 'Teabaggers', and have to deal with the stigma of that term.

It couldn't happen to a nicer bunch.

Really.

Kirk,

Love the run-on paragraph to open your post. And you argue that we are unintelligent. Good job champ.

Take your blinders off, Mr. Delicate Senisibilites.

SWEET!

You just summed poor kirk up explicitly! ;o)

The idiots were running around with tea bags stapled to their foreheads, PRIOR to doing any type of research on what the term meant.

They asked for it & now they OWN it!

Who doesn't love a good tea bag?

I know I sure do. :)

Kirk......have a conversation with Bob lots of numbers, y'all seem to have a lack of understanding of what's what in the world.

By the way, what is a porn cite?? Is this a TeaBagger site?

Spanky-

Who doesn't love a good tea bag?

I know I sure do. :)

Spanks, you like balls in your mouth? Or are you actually talking about tea (e.g. Tetley)?

Amy, and I think anyone who referred to you as a Moonbat just lost any chance of having a credible debate or argument with you too. Sorry this wasnt me being thin skinned as Pietro likes to call me, it was my attempt at some posting humor. Maybe you guys need to toughen up

Kirk, I agree with this part of your post:

I think the Tea Party congressional members are on the wrong side of the current debt crisis in their unwillingness to compromise but I respect the fact that they have put a very important fiscal issue in the National forum.

But it's buried in a 400-word rant about insults, in which you hurl just as many as the folks you're inditing.

If you folks stop calling President Obama a Socialist, and the Affordable Health Care Act, Obama Care, I will stop calling Tea Baggers, Tea Baggers.

What insult did I hurl? Lighten up Francis! I was actually asking for some good names for the radical left just like we have for the radical right, I didnt realize that was hurling insults. Ursula, I wasnt advocating any political positions, I was asking for a funny name.

Job1, even though I have never called Obama a socialist but I have referred to the health bill as Obamacare, are those insults?

Job1, even though I have never called Obama a socialist but I have referred to the health bill as Obamacare, are those insults?

Yes, to the President.

Interesting mmm when did he tell you that? I would think he would be proud owner of the new Health Care Bill and he would take Obamacare as a term of endearment so I am surprised he told you that calling that was an insult. I am also surprised he told you he was offended by being called a socialist but I could understand that one more. Hanging out with local terrorists, a good friend and preacher who taught his church with similar views and certainly anti-american slogans etc that he was very familiar with that word but I can see why he wouldnt like it. But thanks for providing a link directly to the President's views.

The far-left reaches should earn their nickname!

If the tea-party caucus succeeds in actually cutting the cr*p out of entitlements and such-like , we should call them the 'Tea-Bagged'.

If they manage to hold their ground, pass a clean-slate debt ceiling or even Reid's plan well...we'll just need to come up with something else.

Libtards, ProgrASSives, DemNOcrats, Moon Bats, Odumbo, Obummer, bam-bam, idiots, donkeys, BO, morons, etc.. Who can blame them if they want to come up with a cute nickname like tea baggers for the people that are schooling them on how to return fiscal sanity to our government?

H'mmm. Teabags stapled to their baseball hats. That seems a lot more sane than running around with your nutsacks super glued to your thighs. What's a good names for this practice? Sticky scrotums?

Steve-#######,

I beg to differ. The message is clear. Raise the debt limit and allow the U.S. to pay it's bills. As far as i can tell, the letter was written in English, no?

The "problem", IMHO, is that the Teabaggers have hijacked the full faith and credit of the United States of America for political gain. Not to solve the nations debt problems, but to ensure that Obama is blamed come November 2012.

Oh and btw, the voting public is not fooled by this.

The letter is merely political theater for the public, there will be no default because a default would negatively effect the very people who dictate what government does, it is a ploy to make Obama sign into law something that will benefit the people who wrote that letter and negatively impact the ordinary citizen, nothing more than corporate terrorism.

I would rather refer to the teabaggers by their true agenda as "economic terrorists". We still have some enforceable laws concerning the "war on terror".

Basically their interest in the debt limit is self-serving. It will be harder for them to get credit if the US defaults. Same with all busniesses.

Not defending their past actions, nor this current one, but you've got to admit when you're right you're right. And the banks/ceo's are right.

yes you're right mccain would have ended the two wars the biggest drain on the economy...oh i'm sorry he said he'd stay one hundred years...but he would have saved the auto industry and the millions of jobs and already got the money borrowed back with interest...oh that's right he was against that...oh...the stimulas that stopped the shedding of 750,000 jobs bush last month to making a bunch in today's job report...oh that's right he didn't like that either....and bin ladia oh yes he said in the campaign he new were he was...guess he told obama.....yes this is failure to you, and bush was a screaming sucsess i guess. obama's done all thiswith the republicans tied behind his back no majority 60 vote in the senate so that wasn't his ....who caused that bubble the deregulation party oh yes the republicans that believe you can trust corporate to police themselves...enron ,,tyco,,,adephila,,,worldcom....goldman saks country wide...lehman bros...open the curtain on you're window and get a look at the real world

The real world is a world where Obama is a failed, incompetent president. Nothing else really matters, because he cannot control or lead a dysfunctional Congress. So, we're screwed, unless you are an Obama supporter. Obama supporters reside mainly in two camps, either they pay no taxes whatsoever or they are on the federal, state, or local government dole. Which camp are you in, marc?