Congress: Can Boehner get to 217?

Where do things stand? Roll Call: “House to Take Crucial Vote; Senate in Limbo.” From the story: “Uncertainty pervaded the Capitol on Wednesday, as Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) tried to wrestle every last vote out of his caucus for his debt and deficit plan and the Senate bided its time awaiting that crucial House vote today.”

“House Republicans began coalescing yesterday around House Speaker John Boehner’s plan to avoid default on the national debt, saying the very future of their party was at stake in the fight, even as Senate Democrats said the bill stands no chance of passing their chamber,” the Boston Globe reports. “A day after Boehner’s plan encountered stiff resistance from conservatives in his own party, House Republicans held an emotional closed-door meeting where leadership pressured members to vote for the speaker’s proposal when it comes to the floor today. The legislation would raise the debt ceiling in two steps, now and early next year, and make offsetting spending cuts over the next decade.”

The New York Times profiles Boehner and his tougher style. “The speaker has used the many resources at his disposal to coax along his fellow Republicans, from listening sessions in which House leaders sought to educate Republican newcomers on the issue, to an informal party last week.”

“What for months had been a quiet campaign to pressure the GOP into a more conservative footing has, over the course of the debt limit negotiations, blossomed into a full-blown insurrection, led by Republican Steering Committee Chairman Jim DeMint (S.C.) in the Senate and Republican Study Committee Chairman Jim Jordan (Ohio) in the House,” Roll Call reports. “And at a Wednesday Conference meeting, the conflict was exposed raw, as Republicans dressed down Jordan for his tactics. According to aides familiar with the situation, Paul Teller, the RSC’s executive director, and top DeMint aides, including  Communications Director Wesley Denton, have worked closely for years in coordinating their work.”

Roll Call profiles Teller and says he “was probably the last person Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) thought he'd have to slap around during the debate over the debt ceiling.”

Jordan apologized, per The Hill.

The CBO revised Boehner’s bill to $917 billion in savings, meeting “his original target of exceeding the size of the $900 billion debt limit increase by cutting the deficit by $917 billion, something Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s bill does not yet do,” Roll Call writes, adding, “After the new score, the discretionary cuts in Boehner’s bill match up almost exactly with Reid’s package, a good sign for reaching a compromise agreement.” (More: “Reid’s cuts include about $1.3 trillion in war savings, which the GOP called a gimmick. Boehner’s proposal includes the same war spending levels, but House Republicans say they shouldn’t be counted toward deficit reduction.”)

Stu Rothenberg makes this point: “[R]aising the debt ceiling with the backing of Democrats while most conservative Republicans sit on the sidelines would mean the end of Boehner’s Speakership and would be an invitation for a civil war within the Republican Party.” And he concludes: “‘In the end,’ one GOP strategist told me recently, ‘somebody is going to have to blink.’ It’s still unclear whether it will be Boehner, Reid or Obama. But I wouldn’t yet count on it being House tea party conservatives.”

“A growing faction of House Democrats is renewing its push for a clean debt limit vote — pressing ahead even as the White House and Senate Democrats appear committed to fulfilling Republican demands for spending cuts to accompany a deal. But liberals risk being labeled as out of touch with the political climate,” Roll Call reports.

The Hill: “House Democratic leaders on Wednesday called for a clean vote on raising the debt ceiling to prevent a government default.”

Ben Affleck, a liberal, on Republicans’ use of his film “The Town” in their conference meeting yesterday: “[I]f they're going to be watching movies, I think 'The Company Men' is more appropriate.”

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Actually, if they do get this passed, I think it's good news in one sense: Boehner faced down his petulant angry children and made them eat their peas.

It's not much, but it would be progress if he can pull it off.

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Reply#1 - Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:22 AM EDT

From the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities, on Boehner's budget proposal:
"House Speaker John Boehner's new budget proposal would require deep cuts in the years immediately ahead including Social Security and Medicare benefits for current retirees, the repeal of health care reform's coverage expenses, or wholesale evisceration of basic assistance programs for vulnerable Americans. The plan is, thus, tantamount to a form of "class warfare". If enacted, it could well produce the greatest increase in poverty and hardship produced by any law in modern history. This may sound hyperbolic, but it is not. The mathematics are inexorable."
Robert Greenstein.

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Reply#2 - Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:33 AM EDT

in no way would I agree with Boehner's plan to cut the big three without raising taxes on the big two millionares an the billionares . You have got to stand up some where and this is it . Boehner ias a bigot that needs to be put in his place and told that no deal without a revenue increase . No matter the results we have to take a stand somewhere and this is it .

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#2.1 - Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:37 PM EDT
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"House Democratic leaders on Wednesday called for a clean vote on raising the debt ceiling to prevent a government default"

I'm with the House Democrats on this. Especially, reading Backhouse's post. The media is focused on the political drama going on, but I am worried these deep cuts will hurt seniors, the working middle class and stall the recovery.

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Reply#3 - Thu Jul 28, 2011 10:20 AM EDT

I agree that the tea baggers are the ones to blam not the Democrats or the GOP but the tea baggers . Let us get the tea baggers out of congress they don't know what they are doing,also lets get rid of Paul Ryan he is stupid also . The tea baggers have had their chance and they have blew it . Come on everybody let't get the tea baggers out of congress before they destroy this country .

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#3.1 - Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:43 PM EDT

We have some Tea Baggers in Tennessee that needs to be voted out also I am all for voting them out and voting in some good GOP members . The Tea Baggers are not to smart in fact they are dumb as hell.

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#3.2 - Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:46 PM EDT
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not a snow ball's chance in hell !!! how could a lazy moron like boehner, a guy who has only managed to pass 12 laws as SPEAKER of the HOUSE, be expected to do anything that takes intelligence, diligence and skill ??? under nancy pelos's leadership the HOUSE passed over 500 bills !!! and you say that republicans should return to power ??? BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR !!!

    Reply#4 - Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:15 PM EDT

    To Smith1

    Nancy Pelosi was the most reckless, self-serving, narcissistic House Speakers that this country has ever seen.  Much of the so called 'laws' that were passed under her leadership created the mess we have now.  Spend, Spend,Spend, Spend,Spend, Spend on programs that did absolutely nothing but push us further into debt.  Open your eyes.  This country cannot afford to have Demotratic Liberalism at the helm anymore.

      Reply#5 - Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:33 PM EDT

      dear katie

      I suggest that you check the CONGRESSIONAL RECORD and actually review the laws that pelosi guided through the HOUSE !!!

      P.S. NEXT TIME KEEP YOUR IGNORANCE TO YOURSELF !!!

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      #5.1 - Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:49 PM EDT

      Katie, President Bush spent:

      $3Trillion on the tax cuts for the wealthy, $300Billion on unfunded prescription drug benefits, $200Billion on Stimulus including TARP, 1.7Trillion on domestic and defence spending, $1.4Trillion on wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, $400 Billion additional policies like the Farm Bill.

      When Congress votes to increase the debt ceiling, it is about paying for the previous President's spending. Paying for the Bush era spending listed above is at issue right now.

      The issue is PAST spending, not new spending.

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      #5.2 - Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:52 PM EDT

      Katie from LA
      Any idea how many Bills have been passed with Boehner as Speaker? 12 and 6 of them have been memorials and recognitions, no jobs, no help for America. Two of them, the Ryan Bill and the Cut Cap and Balance they knew and said prior to wasting Americas time that they had no chance to get past the Senate. Great waste of time and money, oh and Good job, NOT!

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      #5.3 - Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:54 PM EDT

      I disagree with you on the laws that Pelosi got past are the reaso for the mess we are in now because most of them did not become law because they are still in the Senate unpassed . The reason for the mess for the mess we are in now is the fault of the two Bushes and the Reagan that was Preasident who spent a total of 12.2 trillion dollars and added it to our national debt . Don't blame The debt On President Obama Because he cou;ld not Spend to much because he did not have that much to spend before the debt ceiling had to be raised. you know what has happened there.Don't blaim Nancy or Barack or the Democrats . The Debt ceiling was raised under Reagan 18 times and under Bush 2 5 times none under my man Bill Clinton. We see who did all the spending don't we . President Obama added 2.2 trillion to the national debt.

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      #5.4 - Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:57 PM EDT
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      VETO, no more concessions for the GOP/TP. Where the hell are those revenue increases? Do not cave Mr. President. If we default America knows why we did. Senator McCain when calling the TP brats Hobbits yesterday called them out saying America will know it was not the POTUS that crashed us. Stand strong and tall sir!

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      Reply#6 - Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:51 PM EDT

      Not Tea party but TEA BAGGERS They deserve no respect .

        #6.1 - Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:59 PM EDT
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        I personally hope that Boehner cannot get the votes from his Tea Party kindergarten class. I hope it does not even make it through the House, it is yet one more trash Bill wasting time.

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        Reply#7 - Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:57 PM EDT
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