Poll: Perry would vault to second in GOP field

AP

Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R)

While former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney remains at the top of national polls of 2012 Republican hopefuls, a new Gallup survey shows potential rival Gov. Rick Perry poised to surge into second place if he decides to run.

Romney enjoys a nine-point lead ahead of the rest of the pack of declared GOP candidates, coming in at 27 percent support among the Republicans and Republican-leading independents surveyed. Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) stood at 18 percent among all formally announced contenders.

But when three additional GOP heavyweights -- Perry, former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, and 2008 presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani -- are included in the mix, Romney's support drops to 17 percent, with Perry in second place just two points behind.

And when Perry is the only as-yet-undeclared Republican added to the current lineup, Gallup found the Texas governor winning 18 percent support.

With Perry (but not Palin or Giuliani) in the race, Romney's level of support would fall to 23 percent and Bachmann's to 13 percent, according to the poll.

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Excellent! If there is one segment of the Republican Party that is not represented directly by the current crop of Republican candidates it is the "Wide Stance" Republicans. Perry would fill that hole quite nicely.

  • 10 votes
Reply#1 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:39 PM EDT

I know a few Texans that would be delighted if he left the state!

  • 10 votes
#1.1 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:54 PM EDT

I'm one of them.

Using taxpayer money to build roads only to turn around once they are done and give them to campaign contributors to turn into toll roads is not a good thing in my book.

  • 9 votes
#1.2 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:02 PM EDT

I'd love to see him leave, too, but better in the Texas Governor's mansion . . . errr, $10,000.00/mth rent al property while the mansion is renovated/fire damage fixed . . . than in the White House. As nisl pointed out, he is one of the hypocrites that denounced the stimulus, but used it to balance the Texas budget, and claiming it was his policies that balanced the budget.

Several of us here on FR (including Exodite Dragon, a moderate conservative), put the lie to the 'balanced budget' myth Perry was selling before the election. Right after the election, it came out that the state would actually face a $22 billion shortfall (I'd only heard $10 billion before the election).

Perry is NOT to be trusted. There is a reason he is no longer a Democrat, he lied too much.

  • 11 votes
#1.3 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:13 PM EDT

Yo Rick!

Just off the phone with God. About that e-mail He sent? He says one of the biggest mistakes He made was not putting the idea of a sarcasm font in someone's mind.

He was kidding about your running. He said that was another of His mistakes. He forgot that other Texas Governor Bush didn't know he was kidding either.

Come on Rick! WE know He's kidding.

  • 6 votes
#1.4 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:32 PM EDT

Perry sure does remind me of Elmer Gantry!

  • 5 votes
#1.5 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:49 PM EDT

Silly libbie poster: "Hey Republicans, where re the jobs."

Rick Perry: "why thank you so much for asking..."

He Haw.

I guess Perry, much like the Blues Brothers, is on a mission from god. Big G, little g, at this point with President "voting present" it's any port in a storm.

And that's be the job storm that's been brewing in Texas.

  • 4 votes
#1.6 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:29 PM EDT

The choice is:

President Obama...

Or;

A reasonable alternative.

Who's for a "reasonable alternative" to the leadership displayed by President Obama?

Oh my...I wonder what sort of response the nation's pollsters would get to THAT question!

Not a "reasonable alternative" as defined by most of the folks posting at this web site...a site largely devoted to unabashed, unquestioned, fealty to President Obama;

Nope...sorry.

It's going to be a "reasonable alternative" as defined by the average "likely" voter (anyone watching President Obama's numbers with "registered", or "likely" voters?) in the upcoming 2012 elections.

Better hope the GOP presidential nominee isn't one, First Readers.

  • 3 votes
#1.7 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:40 PM EDT

I saw a poll putting him against all the current crop of the living Romney came closest but the generic republican came the closest.

    #1.8 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:40 PM EDT
    Reply

    ...Perry who...?

    • 3 votes
    Reply#2 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:39 PM EDT

    Gov. Rick Perry poised to surge into second place if he decides to run.

    Are you kidding me?

    We didn't learn our lesson with the last back woods, bible banging, dumber than a stick buffoon Governor from TX?

    You got one nitwit & her fruitcake husband praying away the gay...

    And this one praying away the drought (which coincidentally didn't work out to well for him)...

    Shame, maybe he should of sought out sista Sarah's witch doctor for some encouragement! lol

    • 14 votes
    #2.1 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:42 PM EDT

    Governor Rick Perry

    Texas may have good job growth but it still ranks 27th in the unemployment rate.

    Texas has the highest percentage of minimum wage jobs of any state.

    While there are a few great paying jobs the medium income is 5.9% below the national average.

    The idea is to lower tax rates to bring more companies that can pay lower wages. This will drive the country into another two class, third world nation but hey everyone will have a job.

    • 11 votes
    #2.2 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:49 PM EDT

    Dennis---I do think they lead the nation in executions, however.

    • 4 votes
    #2.3 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:15 PM EDT

    Dennis---I do think they lead the nation in executions, however

    A couple of which were INNOCENT men!

    • 4 votes
    #2.4 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:42 PM EDT

    Jim Hightower had a funny comment about Governor Rick Perry's praying away the drought. "Rick 'supercuts' Perry, the exquisitely coiffed governor of the Lone Star state, finally took some aciton to deal with the Biblical-level drought that literally has been baking Texas for nearly a year: He issued an official proclamation to stop it......But it wasan't just any old proclamation, it was a gubernatorial call to prayer. Perry formally proclaimed the weekend of April 22-24 as 'Days of Prayer for Rain'. But no go. Three days passed, and not a drop.....Then, lo and behold, Barack Obama arrived. Three weeks after Perry's failed prayerfest, Obama swept into Austin for an overnight stop-over. And guess what? The next morning, we got a sweet, soaking, three-inch rainfall."

    When I read Hightower's comment, I remembered James Dobson asking republicans to pray for a deluge to hit Denver the night of Candidate Obama's acceptance speech. It was a gorgeous night; in fact the entire week of the Democratic Convention was perfect. The "deluge" hit in the form of a hurricane the next week causing the Republicans to cancel the first day of their Convention.

    I've never felt God takes kindly to prayer requests wishing ill on those you don't like any more than he likes asking for favors in the name of politics.

    • 6 votes
    #2.5 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:47 PM EDT

    Under Rick Perry, since 2000, about 300,000 new Texas jobs were in government. Well over half of them, fueled by the surging population, were at public schools. Employment in the state’s public sector has jumped 19% since 2000, compared with a 9% rise in the private sector.

      #2.6 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:43 PM EDT

      Dennis, how many of those public sector jobs have been cut or will be cut as teachers and school staff lose their jobs due to budget cuts to education, despite having an surplus in the "rainy day fund" this year?

      This budget crisis for education was predicted in 2006, when Perry encouraged passage of property tax cuts. In Texas, property taxes are the main source of funding for education, so this shortfall has little to do with the recent recession. It's just bad management on Perry's part.

      • 3 votes
      #2.7 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:05 PM EDT

      bethie,

      Great point that I hadn’t thought about. While many claim what a great Governor he is facts show that he is, at best, middle of the field compared to the other 49.

      • 1 vote
      #2.8 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:03 PM EDT
      Reply

      Excellent.

      Now, as we move forward, everyone please remember that Perry used $6.9 billion in federal stimulus money to mask Texas's deficit, effectively transferring Texas's debt onto everyone else's credit card. And then, when jobs were created -- even though they're not particularly high-earning jobs -- he took credit for them, while at the same time claiming the stimulus didn't work and blaming President Obama for the deficit.

      By the way, Texas still has a huge -- $25 billion -- deficit to contend with -- largest in the nation, matter of fact. And that is despite the fact that Texas has no public employee unions and is generally a right-to-work state. Meaning that whatever is responsible for all that debt -- it ain't the unions.

      But, hey, Perry's the master, isn't he?

      If that particular sleight of hand is your idea of fiscal conservatism, then by all means, support Perry ...

      ... as the next President of the Republic of Texas.

      • 15 votes
      Reply#3 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:41 PM EDT

      Only have one clarification to add. :}

      Texas has no public employee unions...

      And to think they are drafting my fees out of my pay check. Actually, we do have unions mine TSEU is affiliated with the communication workers of america. We generally lobby and petition the legislature for fair treatment of our state employees and retirees as well as the agencies they work for/citizens they help. Tea party translation - conduct thuggish actions against the republican legislature and citizens of Texas.

      Very fearful of a Perry run as he would be the poster boy for the Tea Party. He would have the false narrative of the state job numbers, plenty of big dollar donors and have just enough liberatarian and hard right as well as moderate GOP support to beat Obama.

      Actually on the secession note, do not support it at all. However when Texas was annexed into the union there was a provision where it was written that Texas could be divided into 5 different states in the future. Reasoning being that in 1845 and the free vs. slave state issue, they wanted to make sure that Texas could be further divided into other slave states to accomdate any new free states entering the union. Again no at all agreeing on the secession note. In fact, Perry used the quote more for a state rights vs. strong government arguement.

      • 6 votes
      #3.1 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:09 PM EDT

      Really?! I stand corrected. I had heard, or read, otherwise.

      Good for you. Hang in there.

      The secession thing was only a joke. Like Perry.

      • 5 votes
      #3.2 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:25 PM EDT
      Reply

      Cue the moonbat Perry talking points...."secession"...and a lame claim that the Obama stimulus created the Texas jobs...weak and weaker...cant the highly paid Soros slime merchants do better then that?

      Obama poodle 'First Read' ignored the latest job reports, which highlight the Texas jobs boom...if you need a job, go to Texas.

      • 5 votes
      Reply#4 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:41 PM EDT

      If Perry says that balancing his budget created jobs, then that's not a "lame" claim -- it's accurate. He balanced the budget using stimulus money.

      $6.9 billion to be exact. Look it up, Bob.

      $6.9 billion of already borrowed money. OUR borrowed money.

      And the best part is that you applaud him for sticking you with the bill.

      Next time you derisively call someone a Moonbat, remember that.

      Moonbats at least recognize when we're being ... (oh, never mind).

      • 9 votes
      #4.1 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:54 PM EDT

      "Obama poodle 'First Read' ignored the latest job reports, which highlight the Texas jobs boom...if you need a job, go to Texas."

      ======================================================================

      Only if you intend on sneaking across the Mexican border bob, the good contractors of texas like the slave labor provided from "below", if you want a job that pays a decent days wage for a good days work best go elsewhere.

      • 3 votes
      #4.2 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:08 PM EDT

      Anna Molly worships at the altar of Big Government....all benefits are handed down from on high...not on her radar that the private sector can work miracles if the Nanny State gets the hell out of the way.

      Texas is booming economically because taxes are lower, the bureacracy is held in check, andtort reform has lessened the risk of doing business...not because of Obama's failed stimulus..

      • 3 votes
      #4.3 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:23 PM EDT

      Oh, so balancing the budget had nothing whatsoever to do with it.

      Good to know.

      You should tell your side to vote to raise the debt ceiling immediately.

      • 3 votes
      #4.4 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:24 PM EDT

      Bob, Texas is hardly "booming economically". That's an exaggeration. We are just surviving the recession better (except for those teachers and school staff I mentioned earlier who are losing their jobs). Construction is definitely down, but oil is cheaper here naturally, and we have lots of reserves of natural gas. Thus, the cost of living is cheaper. (I'm sure there are other factors, too.)

      You may love Perry, but MANY of us Texans have never voted for him and wish we weren't stuck with him. For more dismal statistics, look at what's happened to the quality of education under his watch along with poverty levels. Unless, of course, those issues just aren't important to tea-peeps.

      • 2 votes
      #4.5 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:15 PM EDT
      Reply

      Seeing how well Perry has managed the deficit in Texas (for those who don't recognize sarcasm - this is an example), we should all rush out and support him. I'm sure he has some prayers that will help fix the current federal budget deficit.

      • 11 votes
      Reply#5 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:41 PM EDT

      Yet another Republican candidate with more experience than our current President-in-Training!

      Our choices will be similar to selecting entrees at one of Steve Wynn's 4 star restaurants, NO bad choices at all and a very significant upgrate from a fast food joint where we've been eating for too long now!

      • 12 votes
      Reply#6 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:44 PM EDT

      Read my post, Mark, and then respond to it.

      If by "experience" you mean paying off one credit card with another, then Perry's just the conservative for you.

      Forget your 4-Star Restaurants.

      If Perry gets his way, you'll soon be eating -- not to mention working -- at McDonald's and "loving it."

      • 11 votes
      #6.1 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:56 PM EDT

      I agree Mark, we've all been eating at that fast food joint for too long. Better food (economic recovery) and service (jobs) will come with the 2012 election. Real 'hope' for a 'Change'!

      • 7 votes
      #6.2 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:12 PM EDT

      Anna Molly, the credit card analogy you mention applies to the President-in-Training, it's exactly what his plan is...! I will give you a few reasons I believe Perry is far more suited to the job than Obama.

      1. Perry has created more jobs than BO. BO was hired by America ot make the economyu better to lower unemployment, to see Americans grow their wealth, and at every level he has failed! Meanwhile over that same time period Gov. Perry has overseen job growth in Texas that sits at 47% of all jobs created in the entire USA!

      2. Perry respects the importance of small business. While BO has been loading up the taxburden, fees, fines, and penalties for small businesses with his obamacare plan, the threat of higher taxes, and environmental pipe-dreams like 'cap and trade', Perry has reduced trivial regulation and has made texas a dynamic environment to grow business. Many corporations from NY and California have relocated to Texas for better service and better wages. He's even been invited to the California Assembly to help them!

      3. Perry has Core Convictions. We all know the story of how he protected his dog. His commonsense approach to problems and his core convictions resonate with the average American voter. There is such a thing as right and wrong. Not everything or everyone needs a presidential Blue Ribbon Commission to determine what's right and wrong! Something the President has yet to learn.

      4. Perry understands the issue of State Sovereignty. He's pretty famous for not exactly playing ball with the folks in D.C. He has tried to use everything from humor to a serious demenaor in his oppportunities for dialog with President Obama and his administration to convince them of the problem that can happen when the federal gov't over steps, overreaches, and over spends.

      He did not immediately turn to DC with his hand out. Even with the massive wildfires in Texas his behavior was counter-intuitive for most politicians. When he state's resources had been deplieted he did come and ask for federal help. And he's still waiting to this day to those requests from Obama! Pure and simple politics from Obama!!!

      5 lastly, Perry appeals to all 3 categories of conservatives. This would require me to give a long essay on this subject, too long for this blog. But it is true.

      Anna Molly, I hope this helps you understand my position. Although I don't agree with a lot of your posts I respect your civility and common sense in making your points. Unlike some of the radical libretards here that can only spout insults and slander rather than debate in a friendly manner.

      • 10 votes
      #6.3 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:48 PM EDT

      Oh great. That's what we need, another haft-wit, redneck cowboy running for President. Didn't we try that once before? W.

      • 7 votes
      #6.4 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:01 PM EDT

      Meanwhile over that same time period Gov. Perry has overseen job growth in Texas that sits at 47% of all jobs created in the entire USA!

      Mark: With all due respect, that 47 percent number is a bogus talking point that was made up from taking the number of jobs created by Texas against the net number created altogether.

      What that number ignores, as you can see from the article I posted at First Thoughts this morning, is that a total of 26 states created jobs last month, and 24 did not. The total number of jobs created is thus a lot higher than you may think, but a lot of jobs were also lost, yielding the "net" number, against which Texas is comparing its own number. California, for example, created nearly as many jobs as Texas did. The other leaders in creating jobs were mostly blue states. Taken together, the other top states created many more jobs than Texas.

      Meanwhile, the leading job losers were mostly other red states, such as Tennessee and Kansas.

      Look the article up, and if you have something to challenge the facts with, let me know. I'd be happy to look at it.

      I've heard Perry say that the reason he was able to create jobs in Texas was that he balanced the budget. That's what conservatives everywhere keep telling us. But in reality, Perry balanced it only by using federal stimulus dollars. He simply can't take credit for those jobs, while at the same time blaming President Obama for the stimulus not working, nor can he even take credit for balancing his budget. Anyone could have done the same.

      In reality, Perry's budget balancing skills consist only of taking money from the Texas credit card and transferring it to the federal credit card. As far as I am aware, Texas still faces an even larger deficit going forward. Sooner or later, this will catch up to Rick Perry, but then, someone else will no doubt end up paying for it.

      You can hardly say that the $6.9 billion that Perry used to balance Texas's short term deficit was not help from the federal government. But I have also heard Perry say that Texas doesn't need help from the federal government, so it is THE height of hypocrisy for him to take the money and then turn around and bit the hand that fed him. You'll recall that he did the same thing with the wildfire money. He more or less even denied that he had actually received anything, which was categorically and demonstrably false. I'm not even sure that you know that. I believe that Texas might even have received more money that Perry requested.

      And why not? This is a nation, after all, and not a loose confederacy of sovereign states. Those arguments mostly don't wash with me, but feel free to try.

      I have core convictions, too, and a certain sense of morality. All liberals do, although you sound like you might be surprised to hear that. My core convictions just don't happen to match up with Perry's. In fact, there is nothing about Perry's "convictions" that I find in the least appealing. I'm sorry, but that's just the way it is. Again, you're free to try, but you're unlikely to convince me otherwise.

      I appreciate your kind words and look forward to other opportunities to exchange ideas. You're very civil, and I appreciate that. But if you really want to debate in a friendly manner, tossing around epithets like "libertards" does not advance your case. So, I hope we can avoid the need for that in the future and just be friends.

      • 5 votes
      #6.5 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:16 PM EDT

      Mark, as a Texas resident, I can tell you that you do not know what you are talking about when it comes to Perry.

      1) Perry did not create over 2 million jobs. Personally, I know many, many people being laid off just in Houston, alone.

      2) Perry initiatives have hurt small businesses while hugely benefiting the large oil and gas companies.

      3) Check out what Perry did with the Texas Schoolbook Commission (Curriculum Commission? something like that) when he did not like the way they were headed. There was something about the head of one of the state universities here that I don't remember, and also something about a racist being honored, but you can look up the details yourself. And his 'core values' are evangelical christian. I'm not a Christian and do not appreciate his trying to impose his beliefs on me. He is also a liar (see #4, below), which is not really a core value I appreciate.

      4) No, he does not. It has been illegal for any state, including Texas, from seceding from the Union for quite some time. And, yes, he did turn to DC with his hand out while loudly decrying the very money he was secretly asking for and using to balance the state budget. He also lied that his policies had balanced the budget when it was stimulus funds, and days after the election, it was found that there was actually a $22 billion shortfall in the upcoming budget. In other words, he lied (which also goes to #3, above).

      5) Exodite Dragon was a moderate conservative on this board who would have a serious problem with your assertion that he appeals to moderate Republicans. He is very much a Republican/TP Inc., extreme right wing Republican.

      I notice that your proof for what you assert consists mainly of criticisms of President Obama, not proof of what you claim about Governor Perry. If you are so sure of what you say, offer proof that is more than 'it's true because he is not Obama'. Give us proof of what you say without even mentioning the other side.

      • 4 votes
      #6.6 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:25 PM EDT

      "I've heard Perry say that the reason he was able to create jobs in Texas was that he balanced the budget. That's what conservatives everywhere keep telling us. But in reality, Perry balanced it only by using federal stimulus dollars. He simply can't take credit for those jobs, while at the same time blaming President Obama for the stimulus not working, nor can he even take credit for balancing his budget. Anyone could have done the same."

      Bullcrap. To claim Texas balanced its budget due to your God Obama and his corrupt 'stimulus' is crap. And to take the next step and claim Texas job success is SOLELY because of the stimulus balancing the budget is more specious reasoning . Texas has limited tax increases and allowed for a business friendly environment, the opposite of Far Left Zealot Obama. California, by contrast, is an example of Obama policies: high tax, Nanny State, overregulation, and it is an economic basket case. Does Obama deserve the blame for California? Or just the credit for Texas?

      • 6 votes
      #6.7 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:28 PM EDT

      The truth hurts, doesn't it Bob #s so rather than accept the truth, you throw out a GOP talking point about the stimulus not working. The facts are the facts, not believing them does not make them false.

      • 3 votes
      #6.8 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:56 PM EDT

      Matt - "Perry did not create over 2 million jobs. Personally, I know many, many people being laid off just in Houston, alone"

      As a commercial real estate broker, I talk to business owners on a daily basis. Our economy is thriving here in Houston. Business owners I know are making more money than they have in years, some more than they ever have. Of course, I understand each industry is different, and some are still trying to recover. But to try and say Houston is not thriving right now is insane.

      • 1 vote
      #6.9 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:14 PM EDT

      Anna Molly, despite what you hear and read at this site, Perry has a lot of support in Texas! I don't have a response for your accusations that he has fiddled with the budget... but at this point in my life I have seen plenty of that from BOTH parties! He is above all doing what he thinks is best for Texas given the buracracy of government! All I know is that I have many Texas friends in Dallas, El Paso, and Houston on both sides of the 'fence' and most really like what Perry has done for the state in these difficult times.

      I apologise for the derogatory name for liberals but there are many liberals at this site (I won't mention names) who relish in slandering anyone who doesn't follow their political philosophy. For me to respond in kind only lowers myself into that same gutter talk. That's not my style, and I don't want to do anything to help those idiots further their objective of encouraging class warfare that they seem to enjoy. I do however enjoy the freedom of speech we have in this country and am a little worried that freedom and others are being eroded by those that like big government and the dependency big government needs! That I believe is Obama's objective.

      • 3 votes
      #6.10 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:18 PM EDT

      Well, Mark, as a liberal living in Houston, while I have no reason to not believe that you truly believe what you have written, I have to say that I suspect your statement that there are a lot of liberals here that like Governor Perry. All of my liberal friends and even some of my more conservative friends don't like Perry. I think I'll trust my personal observations while actually living in Houston to your claim. As I indicated, there was a conservative poster on here that didn't like Perry.

      Mark, I keep hearing you guys on the right say that President Obama wants to 'take away our freedoms' yet you never give a specific example of just what freedoms he is taking away. This is a talking point repeated day, after day on Fox, by Rush Limbaugh, by Glenn Beck, by Pat Buchanan . . . in fact, when I listen to any right wing talk show or watch Fox, it is a very common thing they all say. Again, without any specific example to back it up. It was President G.W. Bush who authorized warrantless wire taps on US citizens y executive order, but it was President Obama who stopped them.

      Think about this, during President Reagan's tenure, the growth of government went from a growth of about 2%/year to a little over 5%/yr and continued like that through President G.H.W. Bush's administration. The government actually shrunk during President Clinton's administration. When President G.W. Bush took office, the government, under his policies started growing again. So when you talk about growing government, none have been so good at it than the Republicans.

      Broker1856, I also do not doubt your observations, but I also agree with your statement that every industry is different. For instance, I am losing my job while the company I work for is making more profits this year than last. I also know teachers who are telling me they are lucky that they teach certain critical subjects or are the head of their department as many are being let go due to Perry's education funding cuts. I also know people who have side businesses who are glad they also have a full time job as their business sucks. I could also show you several that have closed down, due to the economy. What is the industry that you deal with? What is their size?

      • 2 votes
      #6.11 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:40 PM EDT

      I don't deal in any specific industry. I do industrial real estate, but that includes just about every type of business you can imagine. Anything from distribution to manufacturing. I would say that 90% or more of the people I talk to are doing very well right now. All of my actual clients except 1 (he is in the luxury home doors industry) are doing very well. More than half of my clients would describe themselves as doing extremely well.

      I don't love Perry, but it sure seems he has created a business friendly environment that has allowed companies to grow, and also encouraged others companies to move here.

        #6.12 - Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:11 PM EDT
        Reply

        Regarding Perry - Isn't Texas In Sort Of A Mess Economically Because of Him? And he's going to run for President? On what? His record? My oh my.

        H/T to What is Working/The Only Adult In The Room

        The DREAM ACT passes in California.

        California Governor Jerry Brown signed into law on Monday a bill allowing illegal immigrants to receive privately funded scholarships to attend the state's public colleges and universities. The bill, dubbed the California Dream Act, passed the state Legislature earlier this month and aims at helping illegal immigrants who earned a diploma after attending at least three years of high school in the state.

        "At the end of the day, if we're going to continue as a powerful, equal-opportunity society, we're going to have to invest in our people," Brown, a Democrat, said at the signing ceremony in the library of a Los Angeles community college.

        The California law is named after national legislation in Congress to give young, undocumented immigrants who have lived in the United States for at least five years a pathway to citizenship through college or military service.

        The federal bill failed to win passage in December 2010, and its chances have dimmed since a newly elected Republican majority took control of the House of Representatives.

        Julian Rivera, 20, a student at the University of California at Berkeley who entered the United States illegally with his parents at age 12 from Mexico, said the measure could make it easier those like him to afford to stay in school.

        "It doesn't matter where you come from, it doesn't matter what your background is, it just matters that you have passion for something and you want to do it," he said. "This is a country that has given us that freedom."

        http://www.whatisworking.com/2011/07/california-passes-dream-act.html

        ____________________________

        What wonderful wonderful news. Thank you Gov. Brown. Well done California. Well done.

        • 8 votes
        Reply#7 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:46 PM EDT

        Isn't it fantastic Pat? Giving college breaks to illegal aliens? That's the kind of crap that makes me consider California to not even be a part of the nation anymore. Forget it. The place is gone.

        So Pat. If my cousin in the army is from Ohio but is stationed in California, he can't get in-state tuition because he's actually a resident of Ohio. But someone who is NOT EVEN A CITIZEN of the USA can get in-state tution? Wow. That's just great, isn't it Pat? You need to take your simple ass out to Cali and live there.

        • 3 votes
        #7.1 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:51 PM EDT

        Yeah, I have no need for the "dream act", it's a slap in the face to needy American Citizens that just encourages more illegals to sneak into the country that makes a farce out of law and order, I feel for them but we need to take care of our country and it's legal citizens first and obey the laws we have.

        • 1 vote
        #7.2 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:02 PM EDT

        That's great, Pat. Thanks for the news. Very well done, indeed.

        Spanky must be livid.

        • 5 votes
        #7.3 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:27 PM EDT

        Pat in Boston, your poor excuse for a Governor, moonbat Deval Patrick, who is a pathetic joke, also wants to reward illegal aliens for breaking the law, and make hardworking taxpayers pay their tuition.

        Governor Perry has criticized George Bush for excess spending. Perry is the real deal, a true fiscal conservative.

        • 2 votes
        #7.4 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:18 PM EDT

        Yep, the true fiscal conservative with a $25 billion deficit AFTER he bought it down with $6.9 billion in borrowed federal stimulus money.

        Oh, yeah.

        • 4 votes
        #7.5 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:27 PM EDT

        Liberals detest Governor Perry precisely because he has put the brakes on excess spending.

        The leftist spin about how Perry balanced his budget is just smoke and mirrors. Bottom line, liberals want to tax and spend us into socialism and bankruptcy. Anyone who opposes their failed policy is mercilessly attacked.

        Will Perry be attacked as 'gay', like the vicious personal slime directed at Michelle Bachmann and her husband? How low will the moonbats go?

        • 2 votes
        #7.6 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:38 PM EDT

        Only in your land is gay being bad. Here is liberal land we know it is not catching and you are born gay if you are gay.

        No one cares if her husband is gay. That might be the most human thing about her.

          #7.7 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:08 PM EDT
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          What? Did the bush burst into flames in Perry's front yard? I didn't see that on the news. But then, we don't see a lot on the news these days--rescue cats, lemonade stands, nothing much about ALEC and their plan to take over already well under way in WI, OH, IN, FL and other states.

          • 5 votes
          Reply#8 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:47 PM EDT

          This must be the year of the of idiot !..this guy is just another creepy old republican man ..and still trying to rock that 70s porn star ... hair style....boy is this country in trouble !

          • 4 votes
          Reply#9 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:51 PM EDT

          What the hell? If he decides to run he would be second. Maybe we should poll people on how Jesus Christ would fair "if" he threw his hate in the ring? I hope Perry does run, he's a typical Republican bible thumping hypocrite, wait till they started dragging the skeletons out of the closet on this dude, he's dirty and he knows it, that's why he won't run.

          • 4 votes
          Reply#10 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:54 PM EDT

          If the election were held in Texas right now, the money changers that Jesus threw out of the temple would spend billions of dollars on attack ads, and Jesus would probably lose.

          • 5 votes
          #10.1 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:01 PM EDT

          Jesus was a liberal, he wouldn't want anything to do with today's Republican Party.

          • 7 votes
          #10.2 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:10 PM EDT

          Anna Molly..

          Hey...Lincoln couldn't get elected today based on his education and background and the fact that he's old school GOP.....what surprises you about Jesus?

          • 5 votes
          #10.3 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:19 PM EDT

          Not a thing, Ira. Conservatives would skewer Him without conscience.

          As I've said before, Lincoln would still be at home in Springfield, and would probably be a Democrat today.

          • 6 votes
          #10.4 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:29 PM EDT

          President Reagan would also be a Democrat.

          • 6 votes
          #10.5 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:04 PM EDT

          You libs are extra delusional today...

          • 1 vote
          #10.6 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:30 PM EDT

          Which of the following does not belong:

          A Moonbat

          B Moonpie

          C Bob numbers

          If you said 'Moonpie', score yourself an RC. Enjoy.

          • 2 votes
          #10.7 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:35 PM EDT
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          Does is scare anybody else that Perry looks just like Josh Brolin playing W?

          • 6 votes
          Reply#11 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:55 PM EDT

          Yes

          • 1 vote
          #11.1 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:05 PM EDT

          Yes

            #11.2 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:04 PM EDT
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            lawson47Deleted

            Okay, now I've lived in Texas from Gov. Ann Richards through George W. to this gentleman. The only reason I want him to run is if he gives up the govenorship - then he won't be govenor or president! BAMA 2012

            • 3 votes
            Reply#13 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:48 PM EDT

            Wow. Now I could get behind that man's numbers.

              Reply#14 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:49 PM EDT

              Ricky the Sessionist, live snake eating, pentacostal talking in tounges, Perry, is quite the character!

              • 4 votes
              Reply#15 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:55 PM EDT

              Politico:

              The 10-year Texas governor is "really focused on creating an environment where people can risk their capital and get a return on investment, and that, in turn, creates jobs for Texans," says Lucy Nashed, spokeswoman for the state's economic development office.

              Nashed notes Texas has no state or corporate income tax and keeps regulations at a minimum to allow businesses to grow quickly. She says Perry also has worked to develop a skilled workforce by requiring additional public school classes and pushing through tort reform to limit frivolous lawsuits. The state, meantime, has doled out more than $600 million in grants and investments since 2003 to recruit out-of-state companies and help Texas firms expand.

              Real job growth. Real economic success. Obama's policies failed; Perry succeeded.

              • 1 vote
              Reply#16 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:23 PM EDT

              [Nashed notes Texas has no state or corporate income tax and keeps regulations at a minimum to allow businesses to grow quickly. She says Perry also has worked to develop a skilled workforce by requiring additional public school classes and pushing through tort reform to limit frivolous lawsuits. The state, meantime, has doled out more than $600 million in grants and investments since 2003 to recruit out-of-state companies and help Texas firms expand.]

              Where's he getting all this money to throw around? From God? No...try the federal government. But hey, it looks good on paper! He was one of the first ones with his hand out for stimulus money. Simply put, if Perry "succeeded" (your words, not mine) it's because of him taking handouts from the very entity he rails against on a daily basis...but hey, who cares, right Bob?

              Perry will never be president, he may run, but that's about it. He's too much of a flake, even for the religious, fiscal conservative crowd.

              • 2 votes
              Reply#17 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:03 PM EDT

              wow, the very possibility that Perry will run has you prejudiced, liberal wing nuts (using every anti-southerner, anti religion cheap shot you morons could come up with) pooping a brick based on all the attacks on here....

              Perry would be an upgrade to what we have now that's for sure (but so would Romney, Pawlenty, Bachman and others), Obama has absolutely destroyed this economy and has appeared overwhelmed throughout his tenure. Obama's arrogance and incompetence are a harsh combo and the American people have had enough

                Reply#18 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:55 PM EDT

                Gregor better run back to a right wing site if you don't want to hear the truth.

                Republicans, the party for the rich, by the rich and voted into power by their suckers.

                  Reply#19 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:21 PM EDT

                  Remember -- when you're second among the loosers, you're still a looser.

                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#20 - Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:28 AM EDT
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