Tossing another softball for the loons, eh FR? Let the Tea-Bagging/Chin Music really bad and in poor taste "jokes" begin...............

White Collar Auto - If you've got something to say, spit it out.

It's been rumored Issa plays a mean mouth organ... ;o)

Let's have a good look at Mr. Clean, shall we? Disregard all his older pecadillos, and just focus on this one:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/17/darrell-issa-ethics-rules-melanie-sloan_n_879346.html

Rep. Darrell Issa's Oversight Committee may have violated House ethics rules by streaming a hearing Friday that included commercial advertising.

The committee, holding a field hearing in North Charleston, S.C., on the National Labor Relations Board, apparently did not transport the gear it needed to stream the hearing with government resources.

So it resorted to the commercial UStream site to feed the hearing, and hosted the feed on the official Oversight Committee homepage.

But that comes with ads, which government watchdogs say is prohibited. And Chairman Issa (R-Calif.) knows it.

Since he suddenly seems to appreciate Henry Waxman so much, maybe he should appoint Waxman to look into this.

Take it on the chin, like a real man, Issa.

Only the Washington Times would report something as inane from Mr Issa. If it came through the WaPo might have something to think on, they are to print what Faux News is to video.

I will say this, with the mood in country, they better keep that meeting in the dark, as the taxpayers will have something to say over this waste of the their money. Really these GOPTPrs are dumber than rocks sometimes.

Oh that's just terrible AM.

He should be be-headed. An ad? Why isn't Obama shooting ads from the White house?

Come on this is a tad petty and ridiculous, even for a petty and ridiculous libbie like you.

[So it's leather, right? Yeah I got you in the leather today].

Sigh. I guess you really don't want me to talk to you anymore, Spanky. You're working hard on it.

What?

I learned a long time ago to treat this place like second grade.

So it's the lingerie then?

Ok, Ok I'll stop. For now.

Oh, thank you. Would you mind too much? I really would appreciate it.

ah - the ex-felon has raised his ugly head again. Still stealing cars Issa?? That was a career of yours until you found out you could get more money as a politician. Oh that's right your brother stole your car so you could collect and then sold it to a dealer. Wow honest folks.

What a waste of their time and what a waste of our money.

So, school lunch programs - bad and expensive, the EPA - bad and expensive, health care - bad and expensive, frivolous congressional hearings, admitted to being frivolous by the congressmen running them - OK and revenue neutral.

Give me a break.

Thanks for the "pot...meet kettle", moment, Rep. Issa.

I hope Waxman gets it .

But...

He's not given to subtlety, is he?

AM-

If Spanky and you are done...

Well...

It's a world turned upside-down.

I can't...

NO...make that WON'T...

Accept it.

So Elise - what's worse in your opinion - stealing cars or doing cocaine? Both are illegal activities, no?

And say - isn't it you libbie do gooder types that are all about rehabilitation and affording folk a second chance?

Even felons get second chances, right Elise? You want to be mad at Issa be mad about all those crappy car alarms he made all those millions off of. That's bad.

And don't worry Mixed, it's a given that AM and JAS1 will have a go again tomorrow [and the day after, and the day after...] and god knows I can only hold off for so long.

This place is like second grade thanks to certain conservative posters. I hope you're proud of yourselves. Hasta -- I'm in pursuit of more interesting things for now...

Thank goodness True. Happy to see you go. And don't forget those wonderful posts from the Newsvine Progressive Fan Club either. Now there is a group with collective talking points that get old quickly.

run to you next meeting, or is that on Friday?

This creates jobs how? It seems it is much more important to diss the president than do anything about jobs. Just why is it again we are to trust with republicans with anything ever?

Any vote for a republican is a vote to destroy America.

OK AF,

We are back to defending President Present again. Dissing the Present is a part of politics. Didn't you libbies go overboard, along with the liberal media outlets, in dissing the Bush on a regular basis? No civility then, was there?

And have you forgot, Barry O campaigned on a jobs platform. Why, some nights he couldn't sleep thinking of the Americans out of work. What ever happened to his jobs program? Somehow along the way to pass the HC legislation he forgot about it.

Yepper AF, a vote for the Progressive Party is a vote to destroy America, for sure.

Get used to it, Bag Boy.

But AM...

Think of the children...

I always think of the children, Bag Boy. I'm the one in favor of school milk and lunches for poor kids, remember? Spanky, no doubt, not so much.

Spanky, Would you please take your Issa home with you we have had enough of SD's Conman already!

I really think today's Republicans are psychopathic.

Our government has done way worse than the Gun Runner non issue. We've invaded countries for no reason and tortured people whose only crime was being brown. You whine about 1,400 guns and don't mention the 9 billion or so that went missing in Iraq?

If their were any justice much of the last administration would be in jail. And you want to complain about some ATF program that went bad? Really?

Yep, I really do.

And so does Issa and Grassley. Obama and Holder, not so much.

But tell us all nisl - what did Bush do to kill "brown" that Obama isn't doing right now?

Can you name on difference? Cause I'm looking at the policies of the two administrations and seeing a mirror image.

Obama=Bush-haircut.

nisl? YOu see Adm. Mullen's statement yesterday that Libya is a stalemate? So are all those bomb throwers criminals too? Cause they are our bombs, our airforce and or munitions. THe frigging Euro all ran out several weeks ago.

But it's cool that you are good with our government giving guns to criminals here in the US. Now maybe yo are far enough away that it won't effect you and yours, but around here it's ugly. Really nasty and ugly.

Oh and don't worry them cartels and the Mexican Mafia are branching out to all cities and towns. So be careful, the cross fire from AK 47s and AR 15s is bad. Plus they just found out that our government has been selling military grade weapons to fine folk that supply the cartels. So now they'll have grenades and rocket launchers.

But I a big fat whiner. I know, we have much more important things to worry about, eh nisl? Sure we do.

what did Bush do to kill "brown" that Obama isn't doing right now?

He lied us into a war. He threatened America with visions of "mushroom clouds" that he knew was nonsense. He had people rounded up and tortured, a vast majority of whom were only guilty of being brown and in the wrong place.

But it's cool that you are good with our government giving guns to criminals here in the US

Wow, so criminals have problems getting guns? Really? I don't think so. I applaud the ATF attempting to stop gun running to Mexico. It may not have worked, but at least they were trying. Have you ever been to a gun show in Texas? I have. Getting a gun is not hard.

But I a big fat whiner. I know, we have much more important things to worry about, eh nisl? Sure we do.

Yes, we certainly do.

So if Bush did all those terrible bad things, why in the world did Obama increase the size of the wars?

And getting is gun is real hard here in Cali. And that was the point of the ATF scheme - increase the numbers they could cite for guns going into Mexico. Or maybe you can tell me how the ATF could ever track guns in Mexico? Different country , correct. No jurisdiction, right?

So Back to Obama - why does he keep killing "brown" and what's up in Libya? You good with al the killing there? They are both war mongers are they not?

NILS,

Please, look at the intelligence community for the problem and not the past president. When a group of so called experts come into the room with supposed intelligence showing the cause and effect, as president, you would have to look at the intelligence.

I am certain that more 'gatherings' were performed with additional discussion. The former president didn't move based on his thoughts alone. But he certainly receives the blame from you libbies that can't seem to move forward.

Now, what say you about the Obama War in Libya? Was it created by faulty intelligence, or just to appease the UN? Can you tell me why Obama committed?

why in the world did Obama increase the size of the wars?

He didn't. Iraq has far fewer troops than it used to. He did increase the troop levels in Afganistan; it had been so poorly managed under Bush he had little choice. Now troops are starting to leave and hopefully we'll be out in a couple of years.

I find it hilarious that wingnuts freak out over 1,400 guns. Do you have any idea how many guns cross the border? Hundreds of thousands if not millions. I can't speak to California, but Arizona and Texas have far more Mexican borders than CA and gun laws that are a joke.

PS - There is a huge difference between "War Monger" and "War Criminal." Bush and Cheney qualify as both, Obama does not.

No, no - this ain't about poor management - it's about killing "brown." You said so yourself. Obama, as Commander in Chief can pull all the troops and end all the killing. Yet he does not. In fact he cowboy ed up and started in on Libya. More brown, right nisl? Plus Yemen and Somali and a bunch of other places he's involved in.

Guns come and go. We get all the crime from Mexico. THe reality is the cartels get most of the weapons from the Mexican military, not Sou. West gun dealers. Hell the Zetas are all Mexican commandos that broke away cause selling drugs is Bank.

But see the difference here is these guns came from the ATF. Ain't no gun law in the world that could stop that. And for pure political reasons no less, which has lead directly to the death of at least one American. You know anyone on the Border Patrol? I do. Guess what - they are a little pissed off.

And sorry - Obama is doing all the same war mongering/criminal stuff.

And Cali guns laws are a joke. That's why I own property in Az.

nisl,

I'll explain something to you, I have a little knowledge about this subject. If you think Obama is running Afghanistan better than Bush did, you're sadly mistaken. Obama changed the ROE 180 to make it very difficult to fight. Have to get permission to s**t over there.

Funny that you think Bush is a war criminal, when Obama didn't get permission to hit Libya, said he didn't have too, so be it, it's done and now look at what's going on.

As for Iraq, I would bet you your paycheck that we will have troops there for a long time. Do you know how many Joe's are over there right now? Take a guess.

As far as Mexico, don't you find it odd that it's spilling over into our country and nobody is doing anything about it?

Issa will never do any hearings on anything to do with guns. He has a gun history himself.

So the ones he's doing now are imaginary fielden?

Dude he took sworn secret testimony from Melson, head of the ATF earlier this month.

You have got to get out more brother.

nisl - I am not sad to see that bin laden is gone permanently, But I find it hard to think that obama isn't in violation of some international laws regarding a planned covert invasion of a sovereign nation to assassinate a man and gather intelligence. Based on news reports, pakistan sure didn't like it.

I guess when someone takes out a much internationally hated person like bin laden, it is expected that they get a pass. I wonder if obama would have still proclaimed to the world that he ordered the hit on obama if one of our helicopters hadn't of crashed.

Regardless, it sure does raise the international legal issues on how obama can also be veiwed as a criminal.

Sworn secret testimony does not equal a congressional hearing.

What? Issa and Grassley were there, but no matter bro - they have had at least two or three full blown hearings.

You know subpeona, documents, testimony, the whole shebang.

Besides have you seen what Melson testified to? Oh my - looks like DOJ is withholding documents implicating them. Good stuff.

Suck it Holder.

fielden - what do you call secret gand jury meeting and hearings? Still hearings.

Before you get too excited. This was a ATF sting started in 2006 by the republicans. Yes, Obama continued the program. Didn't realize that you guys were so against your own ideals.

Hmmm...

AF-

Wouldn't that mean that if Holder's ATF was running guns...guns that killed innocent Mexican nationals, and possibly U.S. agents...

That it was Obama, Holder and Democrats acting against their own ideals?

I'm having trouble following your logic, AF...

Psst Steeler, although the republicans are good for nothing, they only control the House.

Whereas the good and just democrats control the Senate and the White House. Yet they are also inactive.

Why do you give the guys who have more power a pass and criticize the guys with less power?

Or is it you can see Obama is not a leader, but rather is at best a cheerleader looking to get votes for prom queen?

**I pimped that last line off someone else**

Steeler, why the big fat double standard?

Hey Spank, can I pimp your 'President Present' line from you? I love it!

Good posts today. Simple and to the point.

Or as one of the Progressive NewsVine Fan Club is so fond of saying, you connected those dots.

Thanks, but the only dots I can connect are Dippin' Dots.

Pimp away - I stole from someone else anyway.

Oh, but if you could please tell Ira if you see him. He thinks I pissy and petulant. Or Snarky and condescending. I don't know, but at least I got AM rocking the leather plushy today.

Loved it. Poor guy, now why would he think you to be petulant? Funny, he's probably looking up more new words in the dictionary as we speak.

What the heck is the meaning of 'snarky' anyway? is this a nasty red head term from the schoolyard?

Jody, what's the matter the Gun Runner thing-y not a big topic on Think Progress?

Dear Jody - it is the ATF and DOJ that has been selling guns to mexican cartels. So Jody the ATF admits they cannot track over 1,000 guns. One gun they were able to find was laying next to a dead Border Patrol agent's body.

So Jody, lets talk criminal consipracy, shall se? ATF got the gun involved in that murder to the bad guys. The bad guy used that gun in the crime. So Jody - you ready for some knowledge?

If the ATF was aware that the guns were going to the cartel, and knew that they were going to use the gun in the commission of a crime(s), then BOOM goes the dynamite, right?

A conspiracy can be inferred from circumstances, including the acts done, the relationship of the parties, and the interests of the alleged co-conspirators. You do not have to prove the ATF committed the bad act or knew all of the details.

So Jody, you think it might be a good idea for Issa to investigate this? See I kinda do.

The fact that Melson gave sworn testimony on 7/4 without a DOJ lawyer is real bad for Holder and Co.

Plus Jody I'm guessing you have never been to a gun show, right? Of course not, yet here you are spouting off as per usual.

So what this about a forest Jody?

If the AFT sting was such a bad plan why did the republicans start it in 2006?

Jody, what's the matter the Gun Runner thing-y not a big topic on Think Progress?

I thought this was the Darryl Issa "chin music" thread. Am I wrong?

Besides Spankerz,.........more guns = good, right Spankerz? Why? Cause you repubbies said so,....that's why. Howz that "more guns thingy" workin' out for ya' Spankaroni?

Seems to be getting a little hot over there in S. Cali eh?

Why don't you hand out more guns? That'll make things real peaceable like eh' Marshall Spanky?

Now you wouldn't be comparing California with Detroit would you GOP? Because Detroit doesn't have any problems with guns. Hey are you taking up Detroit's offer to live in that hole for some money? Detroit is going to pay people to live in the city, that's priceless!!!

Especially when he doesn't seem to be much better himself.

Not that I believe in a a supreme deity, but why would they want these clowns in the after life with them...if in fact there is an after-life.

They don't, and they will see to it that they're not.

Naw - the good old days were back in 2005. You remember when the elected president then was not respected by the democrats

But gosh, perhaps if Obama actually acted like he was in charge, or heaven forbid, lead on something, perhaps it'd be different.

But sadly he only seeks to lead from behind.

Just maybe this has nothing to do with the person, just his policies and leadership qualities.

Naa, you are right, it's cause he's black. Wait 1/2 black, which makes him what. Oh yeah, an American.

Hey Soldier are you of some pure ethnic origin? Good for you, cause I sure am not, nor is anyone I know.

I wonder why we wouldn't respect a president that led us into a war of choice. Now billions of dollars later the republicans want to balance the cost of the war on the poor. I still have no respect for him.

our elected President is not respected by Republican house and senate members.

True dat Democrat Soldier. It all started when they wouldn't allow the then President-elect to stay in the Blair House before moving to the White House.

They been dissin' and pissin' on him ever since.

I suppose Billions is a hell of a lot better than Trillion don't you think? Isn't that right Me First?

ana - while your paint can is out, why not paint obama as a jerk as well. Seems that he uses a lot of TV face time for campaigning and fund raising. To think incumbants used to have a built in advantage in getting re-elected. Obama must really, really be worried. Nov 2012 is still a long ways off.

Seems that if he minded the countries business more as a potus his campaign time would be less.

Funny logic you use American. Especially given the spend and spend and spend some more, campaign, campaign and campaign some more, and only occasionally do the countries busines while I am cutting wood in Crawford Texas President we just went through. You know that "hard working" "Make sure what you give me to read is three pages or less" President Bush? Republicans = Hipocrites.

And what is his budget shortfall, even after the accounting gimmicks, a 20% decrease in educational spending, the first since 1947?

Texas Governor Rick Perry has delivered results. - Rick Perry toe sucker Bob 1887###'s

"Texans like to think they're better than anybody else, but,...the truth is, that if God hadn't put so much oil and gas underground we'd still be herding goats."

H. Ross Perot ca. 1984

Yes, a one party Government!!!! Go get em Rudy