Plouffe: 'Any significant budget deal has to be revenue-positive'

White House adviser David Plouffe at a Bloomberg News breakfast this morning said that "any significant budget deal has to be revenue-positive."

At least by the time it all kicks in.

Plouffe's comments draw a line against Republican demands most recently made by Sen. John Cornyn that any tax measures in the agreement have to be "revenue neutral."

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"any significant budget deal has to be revenue-positive."

It's about time, the Democrats drew their own line in the sand! Touche'!

There is NO WAY on earth they will balance the budget on 'cuts' alone & anyone who possesses an ounce of common sense KNOWS this!

Once again, President Obama is playing chess, while the right wingers are stuck on tic-tac-toe!

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Reply#1 - Wed Jul 6, 2011 11:44 AM EDT

Hang tough, Mr. President!

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#1.1 - Wed Jul 6, 2011 12:17 PM EDT

So if the GOPers/Tea Partyers 'cave' and give in to these demands that the budget needs more revenue, did that mean that the GOPers/Tea Partyers were not serious about this in the first place?

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#1.2 - Wed Jul 6, 2011 1:05 PM EDT

to cave inand conceed even more .. is not in the dems best interest .. to refuse to compromise is not in the repubs best interest ....the 2 sides need to come together and do whart is right for the nation .. not what is right for the special interests of the right or left ..we are all Americans ... to risk becomeing a second rate country is not in the best interests of our people ... its time to fight for America ..not special interests

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#1.3 - Wed Jul 6, 2011 2:07 PM EDT

Pietro ~ I consider you a wise, well-researched, well-thought man. Maybe you can answer this for me:

WHAT is the purpose of tax measures that are "revenue neutral"? How on earth does that help anyone?

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#1.4 - Wed Jul 6, 2011 2:08 PM EDT

Well, Anna Molly, off the bat, tax measures that are 'revenue neutral' equate to...

NOTHING.

Vaporware.

Hot air.

A waste of time.

Kabuki Theatre.

It is a whole lot of action with NO result and it does NOTHING to help anyone.

How am I doing so far, Anna Molly?

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#1.5 - Wed Jul 6, 2011 2:13 PM EDT

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

"any significant budget deal has to be revenue-positive."

It's about time, the Democrats drew their own line in the sand! Touche'!

There is NO WAY on earth they will balance the budget on 'cuts' alone & anyone who possesses an ounce of common sense KNOWS this!

Once again, President Obama is playing chess, while the right wingers are stuck on tic-tac-toe!

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It is everyones right and perogative to favor a political party or individual politician(s). Why do you and so many others (from both sides) have a need to post fervent attacks against people? Many people come here and go on the offensive when someone disagrees with their comment. You attack the republican party/ tea party/ and everyone right of left with every post. Why? Do you feel it adds more credence to your comment? If so, you are wrong. Your continual attacks give the apperance that you are narrow minded. Without balance our government becomes less effective. What if there were less conservatives than liberals; or the reverse? Everything moves in one direction with no way to balance the system and the results can be disasterous.

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#1.6 - Wed Jul 6, 2011 2:17 PM EDT

Perfect, Pietro. That's EXACTLY what I figured it meant. Thank you.

    #1.7 - Wed Jul 6, 2011 4:53 PM EDT
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    My understanding of a "deal" is when each party thinks the other got the better side of the bargain. So far the Republicans haven't given an inch while the Democrats have "given" in on $1.4 trillion in cuts. Time to step up Republicans and feel the pain on your end of the deal!

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    Reply#2 - Wed Jul 6, 2011 11:55 AM EDT

    Couldn't agree more. Each side as I understand it could easily walk away and say they got the best they possibly could.

    Get it done!

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    #2.1 - Wed Jul 6, 2011 2:04 PM EDT
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    Oh yeah, lets all definitely be "positive." Seriously, I like hearing Ploufe get out front on this. Messenging has long been a weakness for the Prez and for Dems in general. Time after time they've had the superior message and failed to sell it. What the GOP is peddling makes no sense and is very hurtful to huge majorities of Americans, but lots of Americans who cannot afford to be Republicans line up for their koolaid based on short, concise, bumper siticker slogans because the truth is complex and often requires more than 140 characters. The very idea that they get away w/ proposing the death of real Medicare by farming it out to Insurance Companies at gigantic profits is jaw dropping enough. But to do it while defending big subsidies for oil companies making the biggest profits of any entity in the history of the planet, writeoffs for luxury corporate jets, GE paying 0 taxes and even receiving rebates, etc etc - phenomenal!

    When these loopholes and tax code gifts are even brought up, they then maintain that even if you cut them all out, it wouldn't be enough to make a difference. BS, it makes a difference to me!! If its no big deal, then just pay it! Over the last decade, the spendable income for the average American family has deminished EVERY year, the number of Americans living below poverty level has risen EVERY year, but the wealth of the very wealthy has gone up substantially EVERY year. So the answer is to fix the nation's financial situation is by asking more of the middle class and working poor? They've got a pair that won't fit in a #2 washtub for just being able to take that position w/ a straight face.

    Corporations and extremely wealthy Americans are now taxed at the lowest levels in more than 50 years and these well meaning worker bees carrying signs "taxed enough already" don't seem to realize that its not THEIR tax advantage the Republicans are protecting.

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    Reply#3 - Wed Jul 6, 2011 12:12 PM EDT

    Marv i agree..good post

      #3.1 - Wed Jul 6, 2011 2:10 PM EDT

      Thank you Marv! It baffles me why middle class people continue to support these republican/t-bagger plans that do nothing to help the American middle class. I can't even get my mind around how they think or how they comprehend. And to think that those R/T-Bers have the candidates for President that they do - who are relentlessly childish and petulant and arrogant in defense of some of the most stupid ideas and thinking - even further boggles the mind. Just imagine if one of them got elected - we would be down the river or up a creek - unless you were one of their overpaid programmers and the filthy rich. I'd like to have a million dollar paycheck every year. I don't think I'd be squawking too much about paying my fair share, rather than being given the breaks and all the perks that come with that paycheck. But you know, they can never have enough.....and it's time for the middle class to say guess what? Enough is enough!

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      #3.2 - Wed Jul 6, 2011 3:05 PM EDT
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      I'd rather see taxes get raised to Clinton levels on everyone rather than see these republican bastards get away with murder again !!!

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      Reply#4 - Wed Jul 6, 2011 12:38 PM EDT

      Hang tough Mr POS, Get ready to cave in, you have no choice. One and Done.

        Reply#5 - Wed Jul 6, 2011 12:58 PM EDT

        Let's see Senator Ron Johnson's books? Did his companies revenue increase in the years his business grew?

        Or did Senator Johnson only rely on cuts to his business to grow his business?

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        Reply#6 - Wed Jul 6, 2011 1:12 PM EDT

        John Cornyn, Texas' senior Senator, is a jerk as well as a Social Conservative. A "constitutional conservative", also called "Social Conservative" wants to limit government at the expense of the lower class, indigent, unemployed, retired with limited income and children. They do not believe in court houses or school for children. To bear arms anywhere smacks of the "Wild West" or frontier times. They do not care for the poor, or helping those more dependent or grandparents on limited income. They want to force their God down onto the masses whether they want it or not. They do not care if you are of their religion or not! This thought process is the same as "Radical Islam" in every sense of the word! America is a socially civilized peoples with multiple ethnic and religious groups living side by side. "Constitutional conservatives" do not want this to be the norm in America. "Constitutional conservatives" do not want compromise of any kind. In the Constitution, it states freedom of religion and yet these extremist would force their own beliefs onto others. They do not care for the tradition of moderation, compromise, and an accommodation of differences. Berkowitz has written, Reagan’s rhetoric deploring "unnecessary and excessive growth of government" implicitly conceded that there could be necessary and appropriate growth, and he in fact allowed taxes to rise and government spending to grow above inflation without sacrificing his principles. These guys want to limit taxes for the super-rich at the expense of the everyday American! Tea Partiers are actually for something. They want a world where each household is responsible for its own place on the socioeconomic ladder, even if it means some will fail. They are for local communities determining what values their schools will inculcate, and they want the virtue taught by Christianity and Judaism to play a central role. Tea Party rhetoric is also infused with generosity towards the needy, but through voluntary -- not coercive -- giving, allowing for individual caring and the building of bonds that bridge across social differences. This appears to be supported by action, largely through churches. The current Congress(the 112th Congress) has failed to enact any legislation since January resulting from "constitutional conservatives", also called "Social Conservatives" and the TEA party, who are more extreme!

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        Reply#7 - Wed Jul 6, 2011 2:53 PM EDT

        The GOP is stonewalling to get as much as they can from the Dems, they want to avoid being raked over the coals by G. Norquist as long as possible. They know that it will be impossible to spin caving in on revenues/taxes in a way that he will accept.

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        Reply#8 - Wed Jul 6, 2011 3:44 PM EDT

        It's been a terrific experience reading all the comments here and I wish you all would write to the White House saying exactly what you say here. It's my opinion that they listen at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Don't you wish that we could get this country moving forward again? Whatever it takes, let's see it done!

          Reply#9 - Wed Jul 6, 2011 3:52 PM EDT
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