Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

Amen, just keep Medicare, SS, and tax cuts for the rich off the table. That's about the boldest thing that Blue dog could reveal!!!

OBAMA FATIGUE: Catch it!

A generic Republican candidate now holds a four-point lead over President Obama in a hypothetical 2012 election matchup. It's the fifth week in a row that the GOP candidate has been ahead and the widest gap between the candidates to date.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds a generic Republican candidate earns support from 46% of Likely U.S. Voters, while the president picks up 42% of the vote. Three percent (3%) prefer some other candidate, and nine percent (9%) are undecided.

Bev! Congratulations! No "Bevisms" in that last post. Of course, it WAS the shortest post you made all day.

I supported the Debt Comm. plan. I look forward to hearing this plan and seeing the details.

sigh, fiesty where do you people come from? Social isolation is my best guess.

I look forward to seeing Conrad's plan. Conrad is a BlueDog, but apparently his plan is supported by Bernie Sanders and Moderates alike. And the plan will have more cuts than the Republican plan.

About "revenue," Alan Simpson (former Republican from Wyoming on the debt commission) says GOP/TP claims that ending loopholes (e.g., credits for corporate jets) is raising taxes is "ludicrous." Simpson calls subsidies for Big Oil "tax spending," and credits for corporate jets "ear marks." Simpson says ending these loopholes is the same as cuts in spending.

At this point, if Republicans go home and tell their constituents that ending corporate jet credits will only save 3 million (as Eric Cantor has already done), and they would rather cut Pell Grants for kids to go to college, I suspect there will be very ugly Town Halls again, which will include some angry Republicans.

At this point, if Republicans go home and tell their constituents that ending corporate jet credits will only save 3 million (as Eric Cantor has already done), and they would rather cut Pell Grants for kids to go to college, I suspect there will be very ugly Town Halls again, which will include some angry Republicans.

One can only hope folks will finally see the real damage that will be made by this old Republican smoke and mirrors con job.

tru patriot - yes closing loopholes will do the same as cutting spending - reduce the deficit and down the road, debt. One is on the spending side the other on the revenue side.

Interesting that you left out simpsons other observation on addressing entitlements. He basically says that medicare/medicaid will suck the treasury dry and prevent funding for many, many other programs that liberals hold dry. Perhaps you and others would like to reveiw simpsons comments that he made on bloomberg TV that covers more ground than the little snippet you mentioned.

http://www.bloomberg.com/video/70166506/

You must mean poor and disabled people and seniors who need health care, high school students who need scholarships to attend overpriced colleges, and unemployed workers who need re-training in order to get back into the workforce "shouldn't get anymore money."

Because that's what you REALLY said.

Tsk Tsk Tsk Anna Molly - how DARE you point that out! LOL

As long as the rich keep getting richer the hell with the rest of us!

As USUAL, you on the left repeat the LIES put out by your handlers.

Too bad that you don't have a SINGLE intellectual idea of your own.

And Feisty, you definitely got it right on the second part of what you said. Although we are nothing close to rich, I'd be just fine with being able to keep what we EARN and to hell with all the rest of you.

Goodness Gracious - seems the tea baggers got an extra helping of Fox Noise bullsh!t for dinner this evening!

I'm going to pick up my haz-mat suit from the cleaners...

Someone who shall remain anonymous should really think twice before they start to claim any shred of 'intelligence'! LMAO!

Wow, how "brilliant" you are Feisty.

I guess everyone will miss you in July when you all go to your circle jerk with Murray. I'm sure that your complete "intellect" will contribute so much to the forum.

And who's a bigger liar than Barack this morning. He used that tired, old Democrat cliche of creating false choices. "We can either pay for corporate jets OR feed people." "We can either rasie taxes on the wealthy OR we can put your grandmother on a roadside construction crew." "We can either stop tax breaks for successful people OR turn our universities into parks." Good Lord, this guy is a typical full-of-**** liberal. The longer he's in office and the more he flaps his giraffe gums, the more we can all see it.

*yawn*

Darkness is quickly approaching and the cockroaches are out like it's a buffet at a Chinese restaurant!

Bon Apetite ya all!

Wow. Did everybody else just feel the collective IQ of this page RISE?

Feisty....the REAL cockroaches are people like YOU who feed off of the rest of the nation while you sit on your butt whining about how you are "entitled" to what other people work for.

You won't be missed as you go feed on more trash from your handlers.

Anna Molly

That is not all what I meant. That is just more deflection. The waste and duplication and pure politics that is in our spending is what I meant. Just because you want more money doesn't mean you should have it.

Don't forget too: I think Feisty said the other day that she (unbelievably) has a job. So, unless she's a dogwalker (entirely possible), she spends her entire day, on her bosses' dime, on the internet. She's basically stealing.

CherylLM:

Too bad that you don't have a SINGLE intellectual idea of your own.

Care to put that to the test?

... while you sit on your butt whining about how you are "entitled" to what other people work for.

I can't speak for Feisty, but I work for a living. I put myself through college and law school. I've worked all my life. I pay for my own health insurance AND my own retirement. And I still vote liberal.

If there's a point in what you say, it certainly doesn't apply to me.

Go back to your masters and see if they can give you another false stereotype to float.

I'm generally reputed among my clients to be very good at swatting flies.

Kirby:

That is not all what I meant. That is just more deflection.

I can only go by what you said, Kirby. Please show me where in your original post was there anything about "waste and duplication"?

Am I supposed to be a mind reader, or something? I'm just a dumb liberal, you know. After all, Cheryl said so.

Damage,

We have clown houses up and down our street, but in my home, nada.

Where in the hell did you get giraffe gums from?

Anna - You're right about I didn't say anything about waste and duplication. I also didn't say anything about not feeding Grandpa and teens not going to college, did I? So you made the quantom leap.

And you are anything but dumb and I still love you in spite of you being mean to me.

LoL Kirby. Ditto. I admit to the quantum leap, but I wasn't mean to you. That would be a whole other thing, involving ... (oh, never mind). ;-)

Oh, please tell me. I mean after all, I live in Larry Craig country. I can handle anything.

So sorry. Larry Craig would not factor in here. Not my deal.

But it's more "show and tell," actually, and it doesn't translate very well over the Internet. All you would need to handle is your ... well, that's not quite true. That would mostly be my ... (oh, never mind).

Now I'm blushing. Too bad that doesn't translate over the Internet, either. ;-)

Good Lord, I am an old man and I am blushing as well. And after reading that "I can handle anything" after a Larry Craig note, I am also a bit addled.

And, actually, it does translate and makes it all the more fun................

Well, then, it's my pleasure ... really.

Have a wonderful evening, Kirby. And always remember that age is merely a state of mind. ;-)

Ain't it the truth! You also have a lovely, my dear and perhaps we can have a spat tomorrow

I hope so, Kirby. I'll look forward to it. ;-)

Making an investment is spending with a return. China, which is not as rich as the US, makes "investments" and will continue to surpass our country if we don't prepare to compete in the global economy in the future. Infrastructure, education, alternative energy, high-tech manufacturing -- the things conservatives hate because they hate government and they hate science and they...just hate.

Whining? Handlers? No one whines and plays the victim role like conservatives. For example, "Oh our right to practice religion in the public square is being taken away" (BS). Handlers are what political candidates have--you know, the ones Palin will never listen to. Where do you get this crap?

Hey true,

Don't forget the repubs want to take away school lunches and throw grandma off the cliff!!

Infrastructure - 787 billion

Education - every state in the union pours more money into education and they still don't get smarter

Alternative Energy - I don't know of any repubs that are against it... could you provide some names?

High Tech Mmanufacturing - I think the Creed Co in N. Carolina (solar panels) just created some jobs in China - courtesy of Stimulus... those mean old republicans

Whining, Handlers... Better not watch any of the President's news conferences!!

Come on you are better than that!!

Tru patriot - I find it interesting that many sovereign nations and economists view our ever increasing debt with concern that is voiced publicly and often. One person interviewed by bloomberg TV when asked about the greek default issue minimized it and said he was more concerned about US debt and its impact on the global economy.

It was no surprise that S&P warned the US about losing its AAA rating.

Investments can be a good thing and usually seek out returns based on years down the road. Our concerns and our debt is based on here and now to bring it under long term control. What is the old adage "as goes the economy, so goes jobs"

Education is iffy at best just based on the % of our youth that graduate HS with any type of skill set. Infrastructure has its own lag time based on DOT requirements and environmentalist concerns. Not only that, the skill sets required and physical demands are quite different than residential and a lot of commercial construction.

Obama tried to paint a picture of infrastructure work being akin to giving a worker a wheelbarrow, shovel, pickax and sledge. Then all that would be needed is for someone to say "go forward and move dirt", go forward and puddle and screed that concrete.

Don't forget, the Democrats did some shoring-up of Medicare earlier (that Republicans ran ads against in 2010 -- before they were for it), and there are more of these sort of savings that could be found:

WASHINGTON — As Vice President Joe Biden and congressional negotiators hunt for budget cuts, major Medicare changes that could squeeze billions in savings got a boost Wednesday from a nonpartisan panel of experts that advises lawmakers.

Those changes are already under consideration in the budget talks, officials say.

One idea would revamp Medicare's outdated copayments and deductibles to provide better protection against catastrophic expenses, but it could lead to seniors paying a bigger share of the cost for some everyday services. The goal is to save taxpayers money by discouraging overtreatment. -- http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43412692/ns/politics-capitol_hill/t/medicare-options-biden-budget-talks-get-boost/

But what little I've heard so far is ensuring savings from efforts already made, but that have not kicked in yet, for example savings from the Affordable Care Act, etc. We'll know soon enough.

Intriguing that obama and company are trying to sell our poor, sick and elderly on the idea that the government can find and save enough money in various programs to fix them. What is really amusing is obamas constant referral on the government also controlling health care provider costs.

I don't ever recall any government plan that effectively saved money through elimination of waste and fraud. Seems that someone always comes up with a work around. The last "wage and price" control plan I am aware of occured during the 70's and wasn't particularly effective either.

Perhaps obama will offer subsidies to those in healthcare to only bill medicare/medicaid a minimal amount.

You mean after OVER two years of doing absolutely NOTHING about putting forth a budget plan

Cheryl,

The Democrats have put forth at least 4 budget proposals since November. The repubs voted all of them down. Your memory seems to lapse at convenient times. You should see someone.

Also when will you live your repub dream and move out of civilization into a tar paper shack in the woods. No treated water, no regulations, no government telling you what to do, no street lights, no laws, no velcro, no cable TV or cell phones. Your utopia.

No courts to adjudicate wrongs done to you, they're tax-funded. No banks either, since those are FDIC-insured, and we can't have that government intervention thing. Of course medical and pharmaceutical research is federally-funded, so we can't have you taking advantage of hospitals and medical clinics. You can pick herbs. It already seems you smoke them.

Connie - There must be someting wacky in your beverage of choice. Libs have always said that the right favors wealth and now you want us to live in tarpaper shacks and lapping up water out of puddles on the ground. That's not a connieslapper that's a knee slapper! LMAO.

I suppose next you want us to file for medicaid, food stamps and housing assistance! Nothing like wanting government control, from the cradle to the grave.

Interesting on how you want to tax us, but deny us any of the benifits of our taxes. You must consider yourself and other libs as those only worthy of Americas taxation. Rather greedy and very selfish on your part.

The answer to your first question is none. I'm not Republican and can't afford illegal household help. Not to mention I don't need it.

The answer to the second question is that what you describe is not what liberals support. It's a red herring.

That being said, the rest of your post matters not at all.

But tell me ... where DO you get these lame instructions on what to post?

Why should the taxpayer of the USA put up with it

Why should the American taxpayer put up with republican Socialists? Their wealth redistribution and welfare for the well-off?

BTW: most of us tend to use a question mark at the end of an interrogative.

Most of us also don't interrupt a sentence with a question mark, then start another sentence.

That's not what Cheryl did. It's only what your limited intellect perceives that she did.

But as to your last point, yes, Cheryl does remind me of Michele Bachmann, only not quite as smart.

Not smart at all, actually.

I almost think you might be Michelle Bachmann taking it to the streets incognito.

Who can miss her with the frosty eyeshadow and Jesus Loves ME pendent shining like a beacon of light? lol

Why do I picture Cheryl with an extra 50 or so pounds in a MUMU, curlers in her hair and bunny slippers?

Cheryl is capable of making Maxine look hot!

Wouldn't have anything to do with her intellect now would it?

feisty -

I thought you were going to bed and where is my meatloaf recipe?

The turning dem jus ain't gonna happen, but neither is the turning repub gonna happen either. I am a libertarian as I have told you before, although I am also a realist. And, sad to say most of the people on this blog aren't.

And no mac and cheese til I replace my deep frier.

Why do I picture Cheryl with an extra 50 or so pounds in a MUMU, curlers in her hair and bunny slippers?

I don't Feisty. I picture her as a Miss Jane Hathaway type. Sexually repressed, Bible thumper, Fox Noise watcher, never dated, with a telescope and a notebook to record terrorist activities in her neighborhood just like Glen Beck told her to do.

Kicking arse like the generic Republican candidate? Stephen Colbert used the pedestrian crossing figure for the generic candidate -- HI-larious. Of course the generic would do better than any of the real losers, er uh, candidates.

dangerfield-

I left a message on another thread, but in case you didn't get it. You were right and I was wrong. LBJ did some great things - he was also responsible for Vietnam but that wasn't the issue on that thread, so my bad

someone included Truman as calling congress on the carpet, and I wrote;

"you mean Truman who killed hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians with nuclear weapons of mass destruction?"

so don't sweat it...:)

I also said "hi kirby!"

Then perhaps tomorrow we can disagree about something of substance.

Imagine sitting at your computer all day and the most important thing you have to do in your life is post first on every thread

Jealous much Dangerfield?

Some folks are system administrators who use their wireless laptops to post while programs are downloading on a server. So what?

opajack,

Cheryl is just pissed off that her husband lost his job ("because of Obama" as she puts it) and can no longer support her...she's been spouting the same old bullcrap for months now...here's a hint: don't EVEN get her started on "Obamascare" as she so eloquently calls it.

Opajack, What have you been smoking, the only budget out there by the democrats was the one submitted by President Obama and it was defeated 97 - 0 in the senate. Where is the democrats budget, oh, yea they don't have one.

The GOP/TP balanced-budget amendment, now that's a joke.

All 47 GOP senators have signed on to legislation co-sponsored by Sens. Orrin Hatch (R., Utah) and Mike Lee (R., Utah) that would amend the Constitution to require a balanced budget and limit federal spending to 18 percent of GDP... In order to successfully amend the Constitution, the bill would need to pass both chambers with a two-thirds majority and be subsequently ratified with the support of at least 38 states.

Stop wasting time playing games Republicans, and start compromising in the best interests of the American people.

Can you imagine how p!ssed they're going to be when not only is President Obama re-elected for a second term BUT they LOSE the House too! LMAO!