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Subscribe to RSSMichele Bachmann made what appears to be another gaffe on history. When asked by ABC this morning to explain why she once said that the nation's Founding Fathers fought tirelessly to end slavery, Bachmann replied:
Well if you look at one of our Founding Fathers, John Quincy Adams, that’s absolutely true. He was a very young boy when he was with his father serving essentially as his father’s secretary. He tirelessly worked throughout his life to make sure that we did in fact one day eradicate slavery….
The problem: John Quincy Adams was just 8 years old when the Declaration of Independence was signed.
But instead of accusing ABC of asking a "gotcha" question -- or complaining of media bias -- Bachmann simply moved on to the next question. And that's what she also did after FOX News host Chris Wallace asked if she was a "flake" on Sunday.
"He did apologize, and I was happy to accept his apology," Bachmann told FOX's Hannity last night. "And we'll move on."
That's a clear contrast with Sarah Palin, who rarely moves on.
While we've complained about the constant comparisons between Bachmann and Palin -- though both are conservative women, they have different records and political identities -- Palin has been much more willing to engage her critics and the news media.
After all, Palin directly challenged David Letterman after the late-night comedian joked about one of her daughters; she was involved in a public spat with the father of her grandson; and she routinely pushes back against the media, like this Tweet from yesterday:
sigh* media making things up again MT @POLITICO2012: Sarah Palin reaching out to IOWA operatives http://politi.co/j9kQko by@maghabepolitico
When NBC's Matt Lauer asked Bachmann on "TODAY" this morning if she feared being "Palin-ized" -- i.e., attacked the same way Palin was -- Bachmann replied this way:
“That’s something that goes with the territory… There will be attacks to come.”
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Good Grief!
Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse...
As for being Palinized - it came from her own 'side'! LOL
No one puts the 'V' in victim quite like what's masquerading as 'real' Americans these days!
It's gonna be a long hot summer folks...
*popcorn*?
The media and her supporters can "shrug" off these comments if they want. But seriously, this is a problem. Whether she is saying these things herself, or is being fed by her crack top advisors makes no difference to me.
You don't want someone with so little regard for history to be sitting down in a room with a bunch of world leaders who can tell a phony a mile away when it comes to this stuff.
You want to sit and talk with an American President who has a clue. We should all want that from our leader, who represents us around the world.
Who we the people elect to represent us.
Which is why I can't wrap my head around the latest IA poll showing her neck and neck with Mittens!
I just can't believe there are THAT many ignorant people out there...
Doesn't she home school her own children?
If she does I feel sorry for them.
It really is incredible, Feisty....the dumbing down of the electorate where ignorance is considered a positive thing...one of the 'real Americans'...Yikes!
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool/flake than to speak and remove all doubt"
As Lawrence O'Donnell might say, She will never be President.
Do ypou mean in contrast to our "intelligent" president who says that he doesn't speak "Austrian"?
Any of you want to compare and contrast this with say Obama remarks at Fort Huff?
Might be fun?
Unfortunately there really are that many ignorant people out there.
Feisty:
This goes beyond ignorance. This is stupidity, and yes, there are that many stupid people out there.
Of course Michelle Bachmann shrugs off criticism. She is a fundamentalist in politics just as she is a fundamentalist in her religion. She believes that the Earth was created 6500 years ago, she rejects all proof to the contrary and she thinks that children should be taught creationism (using the "intelligent design" title) and "let the students decide." Letting the students decide in such matters is educational malpractice.
Her fundamentalism in politics ignores facts just as does her religious fundamentalism. When a person does not require evidence for his or her beliefs they are absolutely unqualified for public office.
You can make a list of Obama's gaffes easily. Every politician makes mistakes, especially when speaking off the cuff. Clinton did it, Bush did it, Reagan did it ("I misspoke"). Facing a public audience and fielding questions constantly is an exhausting task and sometimes the tongue slips.
But with Bachmann it reaches new level of absurdity. It's not that she makes a mistake like all other public figures. It's that, with her, it's a consistent pattern that reveals an almost total ignorance of science and of the history of her own country. Any attentive high school kid knows that the Founders didn't work tirelessly to end slavery -- they compromised. An ordinary citizen can tell you that Lexington is in Massachusetts.
Every pol makes errors when their minds wander. Obama muttered something about "all -- 50 -- 7 states?" But she makes more of them and she unashamed.
In a way that's the difference between a politician and a beauty queen. Bachmann the politician doesn't care. Palin personalizes any criticism. What both have in common, their general ignorance aside, is that they both know exactly what to say to please their audience.
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL
Which is why I can't wrap my head around the latest IA poll showing her neck and neck with Mittens!
I just can't believe there are THAT many ignorant people out there...
Feisty,
You have to keep in mind that her supporters don't mind her dishonesty and ignorance, in fact, being illiterate seems to be a badge of honor amongst republicans.
When I first saw George W. Bush I thought he was a dangerous moron that had no chance of being elected. The people on the right will vote for ANYBODY, as long as they are radical right wing extremists, and being a radical right wing extremist and a religious zealot is just icing on the cake.
Patriot
Which do you think is the more serious lack of knowledge ..... not knowing that people don't speak "Austrian" or believing in creationism. No wonder this country has such a high rate of science illiteracy.
I don't believe Michele Bachmann knowingly tells lies. So I guess she doesn't lie so much as she's just incorrect and even delusional (investigating members of congress for being anti-American McCarthyism, gawd). However, that she believes her "lies" is really disconcerting.
Bachmann can shrug off attacks all she wants, but the vetting begins and it's not good. To conservatives, let's do some homework. Michele Bachmann has a law background. That seems like a decent accomplishment until you learn where she got her education:
These schools are Evangelical mills that provide degrees for fundamentalists seeking to infiltrate government and positions of power (most of Dubya's staff, who walked the White House halls carrying their Bibles). This is worse than on-line degrees from an uncredited college.
Then she says she worked as a tax attorney. Yeah, for the government--for the IRS. Since then, Bachmann has raised foster children receiving significant government compensation. Then on to the Minnesota Senate and to her current House of Representatives government job.
Not going into government subsidies for her husband's clinic, or her father-in-law's farm, or all the ear marks for her district, there is nothing about her life's achievements that is particularly impressive or even attractive to either liberals OR conservatives. It appears she has never worked an honest job in the private sector and has been on the government dole all her life.
Like Sarah Palin, Bachmann is good with the one-liners to a crowd of supporters. But come on, shouldn't the bar for POTUS and leader of the friggin' free world be a lot higher than this?
P.S. Patriot979 - Please choose a different moniker. I don't want any confusion. Thanks.
Again, I find this typical line of attack repulsive and all of you so called elitest critics are what is wrong with politics today. Explain to me what makes you think Obama is more intelligent than Bachmann? I went to high school with a guy who got a 9 on his ACT test (and yes he tried) and became a well known TV preacher and wrote several books because he was a very eloquent speaker and it was all a scam. Dont tell me Obama is more intelligent because you feel he can read a teleprompter better than Bachmann or speaks more eloquently because thats no proof. You probably will use his academic background but he was likely an affirmative action admit to both no different than Bush and Gore so that doesnt tell me anything. By the way, did you know Bush had higher SAT scores over 1200 than Gore? Probably higher than any of you posting but you call him an idiot too. None of these people are morons and its almost if all of you are starring in "Mean Girls 2" the movie with your thought provoking personal satire. Or maybe its just that you all are sexist? Dont like women?
Why cant you win voters minds and hearts by convincing them that your position is right or better for them? Do you really think calling someone a moron will? Again your actions are reprehensible here.
Don, at the moment I am more concerned when our president says ATMs kill jobs. Or that providing tax credits to green energy companies based on campaign contributions to his candidacy, or thinking that wealth redistribution is the path to prosperity, or that ignoring established law of this country and use government intervention to override this law to provide a government bailout to the auto unions and wipe out the appropriate ownership in GM, or to advocate for Card Check and think that will produce jobs, or to think that taxing corporations on their foreign income more doesnt eliminate jobs in the US preventing them from competing effectively in the foreign country, or that cap and trade would outsource millions of manufacturing jobs overseas to lower cost manufacturing countries or that tort reform doesnt work because the trial lawyers are some of my biggest contributors and hiding behind the equal pay act to provide more class action money for my contributors and the list goes on and on or basic fundamentals of assets and liabilities as he continuously shifts his fiscal positions. Whats more important to you, worrying about some candidates religious beliefs or some fiscal discipline and righting our economy?
Kirk
If Barack Obama was the beneficiary of affirmative action, then bring on affirmative action. If an affirmative action student becomes president of the Harvard Law Review, becomes a professor of Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago, is elected state and US Senator and President of the United States, then would you not say that affirmative action worked?
The key issue with Michelle Bachmann is not that she does not know everything ... nobody does. The problem is that when confronted with her errors she either ignores the questioner or continues to defend her mistake. Facts don't matter. Evidence does not matter. She has "faith" in her revised version of history and her erroneous political policy positions just as she has faith in her fundamentalist Christian views. In other words she refuses to learn, refuses to change no matter what evidence is presented. SAT scores, IQ and affirmative action do not matter when you are dealing with a "True Believer."
Kirk
Let me try again. The problem is not that a person has religious beliefs. Barack Obama has religious beliefs. Michelle Bachmann has religious beliefs. The difference is that facts and evidence matter and when your religious beliefs are more important than evidence then your beliefs are impeding rational thinking.
If I were a guilty person on trial I would not want a jury composed of scientists and highly educated liberal arts majors who value critical thinking. I would want people like Sarah Palin who wants to make decisions based on "gut instinct" and true believers like Michelle Bachmann who chose to believe whatever they believe in spite of evidence presented. Conversely, if I were an innocent person on trial I would want to pack the jury with logical, rational people because they would reach the proper verdict based on the evidence.
Don, I completely agree and you are making my point. I dont have any problem with your post and its a perfect response and opinion on why you dont feel Bachmann is qualified to be President. Its when people call her moron, stupid etc that all credibility is lost. Your position on her christian fundamental views is a perfect reason for you to dispute her positions.
You call her a true believer and the problem with politics today is that you cant be a social liberal and fiscal conservative and survive either party. I probably couldnt find one position on social issues that Bachmann and I agree on but Obama is a true believer on economic policies in which he absolutely erroneous but he has no frame of reference to know that he is because he has had no real work experience. Yes affirmative action worked for him but not for the people who think his fiscal polices are ruining this country so in that regard, affirmative action has been a disaster. Being based in chicago, I know that he is a true believer that the playing field isnt level. He really doesnt believe in success through hard work, merit performance and talent and that we should level the playing field for all. That makes him a true believer on fiscal socialism and unfortunately so do most americans think the same way about Obama.
The problem is that we cant seem to find a political party and candidates who honestly will come out and be in the middle ground most of us find ourselves in. We are fiscal conservatives and social moderates so we name call and personally attack those who dont agree with us instead of trying to find solutions together or winning the hearts and minds through civil passionate debate.
Kirk
You can criticize the Obama economic policies if you wish, but keep in mind that the GM bailout worked and that many, many jobs bills have been blocked by the GOP Congress. I think those bills would have improved our economic situation, but my point is that when the President has not been allowed to implement most of his ideas criticizing him for all of the economic woes in this country is ridiculous.
I'm not a Bachmann fan, but I've heard worse gaff's by Biden and some others. When you talk to people all day, every day, you are bound to say some stupid things.
Also, the news outlets have their own political agendas and they will focus on mistakes made by whichever party they do not support. Since most news outlets lean Democratic, this means Republican candidates are effectively held to a higher standard. (if you don't believe me, look at research on the ratio of negative/positive adjectives used in articles discussing representatives of each party - there have been some interesting stats published).
Don why do you think the GM bailout worked? Why do you think it didnt put a bandaid on a broken business model? Clearly GM is a viable company once its liabilities are wiped clean along with getting tax loss carryover funding for many years to lower their cost of capital because nothing has changed from 08 besides that and giving it new owners. So dont you think the better way was to redo its business model so it can survive many many years? Wiping out the lenders in favor of the unions was an obvious political favor that did nothing to change its cost structure. So once it leverages up again to expand and pay down its union pension and retiree medical obligations it will be right back on the brink of bankruptcy in the next economic cycle downturn. Thats not a winning economic policy for Obama. What ideas havent been implemented by Obama because of the republicans that you feel might work?
The Constitution says NO religious test should ever be made in determining a Government employee. The people today have put to much importance on Religion because they don't know the Constitution.
Bachmann happens to be one of those people. That is what makes her not viable as a President, but dangerous as well.
Freedom of Religion also, means freedom of, and from the Religious Majority imposing their beliefs on others and through the Laws of the Land.
Michelle Bachmann is dangerous because, she does not understand nor, could she ever understand this simple principle!
Well this woman doesn't know the difference between John Adams and his son, John Quincy Adams. Her religiosity has made her a serious..... NITWIT!
There are gaffes and there are gaffes, however Michelle Bachmann is making Sarah Palin appear to be a Rhodes Scholar!
Kirk, I agree with you 100%. I just finished reading all the above posts and was amazed with all of the name calling! For the most part you can see what train of thought this is coming from.
Wilberta, there is nothing in the Declaration of Independence, The Constitution, or the Bill of Rights that limit the influence of religion into politics, but there is a limitation of governments control of religion. As for a leader that is religious it would be questionable at best if a leader put the will of their God after that of the will of their government, and if they did, then they never truly believed in their religion in the first place.
One indication of the difference in intelligence between these two people might be the difference between graduating magna cum laude from Harvard Law School and receiving a J.D. degree from Oral Roberts University. A black young person may get into Harvard through affirmative action, but he doesn't get handed the Presidency of the Harvard Law Review or graduate magna cum laude because of affirmative action. He earns it.
@ Mark L. Wrong!
It has often been seen on the Internet that to find God in the Constitution, all one has to do is read it, and see how often the Framers used the words "God," or "Creator," "Jesus," or "Lord." Except for one notable instance, however, none of these words ever appears in the Constitution, neither the original nor in any of the Amendments.
The notable exception is found in the Signatory section, where the date is written thusly: "Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven". The use of the word "Lord" here is not a religious reference, however.
In fact, the original Constitution bars any religious test to hold any federal office in the United States. For more information, see the Religion Topic Page.
Mark L, READ THE DOCUMENTS ALL OF THEM!
I just noticed that in this global world GM has restored its position of number ONE automobile producer in the world. Anyone who says the bailout of the auto industry in the USA is a failure is showing his intelligence level. Why is it that the Republicans bad mouth everything the Democrats and Obama do? They had 8 years of the highest office in the land...for most of those years they had plenty of influence in Congress, and they even had plenty of influence in highest court in this land. Their ideas sucked! Their ideas took us into the worst economic conditions since the Great Depression! Do they have new ideas? NO, same old, same old! If the US voters are so fooled again then they really deserve the results. You can fool me the first time around, but not twice.
I don't know if everything Obama is doing will produce good results? But I want to see! Don't you think it is time the Republicans get behind the government and the people in the USA and see if this will work...they don't seem to have any better ideas! You can say what you want about Obama, but for the past two years we have experience CHANGE, from the old Republican ideas that SUCKED!
Bacnmann may shrug everything off. Just goes to show you how out of touch with mainstream America she is. But the rest of us certainly don't shrug this stuff off - it paints a very accurate picture of the real Michelle Bachmann.
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL
"Good Grief!
Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse...
As for being Palinized - it came from her own 'side'! LOL
No one puts the 'V' in victim quite like what's masquerading as 'real' Americans these days!"
I am curious as to what you believe is a 'real' American? Very few seem to be on the left, passing bills they haven't read, pretending the constitution doesn't mean what it says, trying to sell senate seats, etc. Are they the ones you believe are 'real' Americans? Are the real Americans crying for ever more welfare?
You won't answer, or if you do it will just be petty name calling. You've got little else.
Where is this "Fort Huff" that Obama made remarks?
Isn't it just sad!!!!!!
Good to see you back TRR!
Isn't it about time for a fishing trip?
Thanks Feisty-
Went last weekend and going again this weekend. Love it!!!!!
TRR - My fellow West Virginian, we have our own problems here, but at least we know idiot when we see one.
Dear West Virginia! Yes, you recognize in Bachmann that Stupid is forever!
@TRR -- Yes there are many ignorant people out there and the proof is disgustingly clear and evident by who is sitting in the White House now. You and TReed make me ashamed to be a West Virginian.
Sorry Ben but I voted for McCain, I didn't trust Obama. I didn't like his energy policy comments on coal which would utterly destroy WV.
Yes TReed we do but I don't know about Ben with numbers.
Is this the best the GOP has to offer Bochmann and Mittens? God help those poor fools!
ceno181
that 37% approval rating is on the economy, which reflects the fact, you may have noticed, we are only slowly coming out of a recession.
President Obama's overall approval rating in that poll of slightly over 1,000 people was 47%. Not bad considering Reagan's approval rating was at 35% at this point in his first term, while unemployment was at 10.6% during his admiistration.
Who is Barry? Barry Gibb? Why are you talking about a Bee Gee when the topic is MB?
Although neither is a viable candidate for the Presidency, Bachmann, though a flake, is at least not acting the victim like Palin.
They are also different in that Palin is all about thickly applied lipstick and Bachmann rocks the"smokey" eye shadow.
LOL!!!!
Thanks Amy I needed that!!!!
Too bad they can't apply make up directly to their brains, thats the real blemish they need to cover.
Any Politician, whatever the Party, remains responsible to ensure all words coming from their mouth rings true when speaking publicly. Claiming ignorance by neglect at checking truth before opening one's mouth or outright denial of premeditated lying makes no difference regarding judgment by the voter after the determination of false statements has been made. In either case, any Politician treading this ground of lies or ignorance will find themselves in "quicksand" watching their political aspirations go down under. Bachmann is such a Politician. I predict her Political career, after losing the Primaries, will come to an end in the next congressional election within her district. This will occur because her Presidential aspirations will "showcase" all of the lies spoken from her mouth during times passed, when she was an unknown to the Nation. If you're a Republican.....I wouldn't bet the deed on your house this "Horse" will win the race.....it has no "hay".
  "Whether she is saying these things herself, or is being fed by her crack top advisors makes no difference to me."
That's a very good point. Remember her placing Lexington and Concord in NH?? That was part of a prepared speech delivered the night before. Her staff never corrected her (or changed the speech). So there she was, the next morning, repeating the same error.
And PS to cenoi?? Where do you get your numbers from?? The latest McClatchy poll has the president at 45% approval--not 37%.  Overall,the average is 47% to 47%. Not bad at all, considering the economy.
In the past three and a half years - five of Michelle Bachmann's Chief of Staff have left, they were not fired they just left - wonder why?
I apologize in advance for bringing the discussion to a sophmore level, but I have to say Bachmann is pretty hot. There I said it.
Having said that, she is extremely "truth" challenged...rounding embellishments are one thing...
14 trillion dollars in debt and she highlights a 73% increase in limo usage...really? Oi vey
So what you're saying is the Thorazine induced wild eyed l@@K is what turns you on! LMAO!
Details, details, details...I warned you I would bring it to a sophmore level...
but she's aged well...
Yeah, the crazy look usually does it for me too. What can I say, I like 'em a litlle on the "in need of therapy side." Hey, someone has to like the loonies!
Just goes to show, men have no taste.
But, actually, kind of encouraging for us women on the north side of 40 that men find old moms Palin and Bachmann "hot" :)
Kind of like when Clinton fell for zaftig Lewinsky.
I would bet every dime I have that if either Palin or Bachmann were 40 lbs heavier, they would not be on the national political stage.
I Being MALE and POTENT!
Can't STAND LOOKING at PALIN or O'BECKMANN because they have ZERO Inner BEAUTY ! . PUTRED!
Lying , Just for the Ends to JUSTIFY the MEANS !
Really CHRISTIAN and REPUBLICAN Though. ( PERFECT PUPPET for CORPORATIONS ) Look at BUSH !
She Makes WEALTHY and WANNABE WEALTHY SALIVATE !
Attack & Attack EVERYTHING OBAMA AND be a TOTAL FLAKE and OUT in the OZONE ~~~~~~~~
Like a BAKED ACID TRIPPER ?
She Could ENTERTAIN Her Self., SHE is so FULL of HERSELF !
She Can Handle Criticism ??????????????????????
Yet WALLACE had to PUT OUT AN APOLOGY for Calling her WHAT SHE IS !
This ARTICLE is SPIN ONLY !
What a TOTAL LIE !
She IS A FLAKE and CAN'T HANDLE IT WHEN TOLD !
Wallace WILL Find NEW Employment..............................................................
I'm not touching that :-0
Reminds me of line from Animal House, "Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life".
A big part of being sexy is between the ears.
An old comedy comes to mind - "Dumb and Dumber"
There are really some of them left - Idiots Out Wandering Around - (IOWA) - that will vote for Bachmann in the straw polls. I wonder how many of us learned all we needed to know by the time we were entering our teens. Iowa must have a education system that is beyond what we commoners are exposed to in our home towns across the US.
This article hits on the exact andf distinct difference between Bachmann and Palin.
Palin spends all her time being anit-"something" - she complains constantly, is completely defensive, and just spews anit-government and anti-Obama rhetoric. That's all she does. She's NEGATIVE, through and through. She does not advance her ideas and solutions and policies - she has none, apparently, other than to tear everything down like the village idiot.
Bachman, OTOH, is intelligent and articulate and spends her time discussing real ideas and policies. I don't agree with Bachmann and won't vote for her, but I like the way she outshines Palin by discussing her view of solutions and approaches.
Good riddance Palin, you fake. And welcome aboard Bachmann for campaigning like a serious candidate.
Well, I guess to Palin, she is intelligent.
FRS I hate to disallusion you but if you really google what Bachmann says, you will find out she lies, lies, lies. She takes numbers from anywhere and sticks them into her speech and knows full well that most people will shrug her off, or believe her instead of finding out if she is telling the truth. There is only one that comes out smelling like a rose on the truth and that's the Senator from Virginia but no one listened to him. check out Politifact which looks up whether a politician is telling the truth and Bachmann is at the bottom of the pile - including a lot of "liar, liar, pants on fire" marks. She's not just dumb, she just doesn't give a rap about what she's telling the American people - she wants IN - it's about her.
Even Bob Schieffer asked her about her ratings on Politifact. She didn't really have an answer.
Oh boy, here they go again with another dumb as a box of rocks candidate. Don’t they know or care that everything they say is recorded and fact checked? Can’t they see just how stupid they sound and look? Apparently, the liars really believe that we the people are dithering idiots because all they do is open their mouths make false pronouncements and behave as though their lies are the truth as if we are too stupid to know any better. “You may fool all the people some of the time, you can even fool some of the people all of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all the time.” Shaking my head in total astonishment! Just wow!
 Trying to be objective about this, this woman is no more ready to be president than any other woman in America. Prom Queen would be a better fit and I don't really mean that to be as sarcastic as it sounds! Just because you think you can find enough money and idiots to vote for you should not entitle one to be the President.  She is way to exreme and opinionated to be in an Office that high. Â
All I can give her credit for is not being Palin like and digging a deeper hole by saying it's the media's fault. Other then that, I don't see her ready for presidency. She's been dodging too many issues.
Bachmann (I can't bring myself to call her by her first name) has the worst record according to Politifact than anyone on the field for bold faced lies. This ranch that gets the govt subsidies (and she gets a check from) and she claims is not hers or hubby's but father in laws? Does she think people can't check? (Well probably she figures a lot won't) well her father in law has been dead since 2009 and she is getting subsidies for the ranch in Wisconsin and for the clinics she and hubby own. And she wants smaller government? For who? The elderly, disenfranchised, and middle class - but not the rich. What a joke. She's probably drooling at the perks - looks up her background and she's been slapped with ethics charges and lying a blue streak. She make Cheney look trustworthy next to her.
I posted several weeks ago that Michele is the real deal for the conservative christian republicans. Sarah was always, and still is, a fraud lacking backbone, work ethics, and convictions.
Michele will stick to the script, no matter what. The girl is blessed with the ultimate view of tunnel vision. Unfortunately, that light she may see at the end of that tunnel is not the ever increasing glow of redemption. That light is a freight train coming straight at her under full stream.
You really don't do any service to this country when you try to limit us to one religion and one religion only. That's how and why this country was discovered, because people wanted the right to freely worship the religion of their own choosing. Furthermore, just because you use the word "christian" doesn't make you "right" about anything, except that you're in all likelihood a "right wing wacko."
The fact that the word "Republicans" is prefaced with the word "christian" only reminds me that the Bible says "The devil will rise up out of the churches."
I'm Roman Catholic, but I don't use my religion to identify my party affiliation as do Republicans.
Give it rest will you.
Barry- Barry-libcon, good summation of the two personalities. American Girl, you totally missed the point of the post.
American Girl-724855:
Perhaps you could understand the term, "Bible thumping neo-fascists" better?
enough already with the gop,they are just looking for attention just like the new's..can't let it go..the new's is the laddle in a big cooking pot..
She needs to have a thick skin,...just like Hitler. if he listened to critics he would never have had the success he did.
"If fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in an American flag and carrying a cross".
True! — Bachmann is a Jesus freak fascist!
Everyone can rip MB for a mistake that everyone probably makes daily, unless all of you libs are always right..... Yet none of you can point out how much more of a mistake Obama made when talking about the solider at Ft. Huff (only Six medals of honor have been handed out since he has been president)....... Are you all really that hypocritical......
As a side not a recent poll (worldpublicopinion.org) did show that Fox viewers were more informed than any of you hypocrites, cmon just give being conservative a try...... I bet you start feeling about yourself and stop asking for handouts......
Nomore - I've looked at the conservative agenda and even though I liked Reagan and I voted for McCain, the direction the party is taking is wrong for the US at this time. I personally would like to see us progress out this recession and into better prosperity. And to use a comment from Reagan, "Are you better off than you were 4 years ago". My answer is no and I don't see where the conservatives are going to help. I don't ask nor do I want handouts, I'll watch at least 4 different news groups because they all throw some kind of slant on the news and all politicians should be put under a microscope because I don't trust a single one of them.
In the same light, I don't see much happening on the Democrat side either but I don't blame the President. I blame Congress, the President cannot make laws, he signs them or vetoes. The President submits a budget, but Congress approves, adjusts and funds the budget.
People here are under the dellusion that the President of the US is all powerful, wrong! This is why we have the three branches of government, to keep each one in check. Did any one take civics or US history? And I don't mean Bachmann's version of history.
But when Obama says to congress that if they send a bill to his desk that he doesn't like, then he will veto it, why waste your time trying to read his mind. He still hasn't stated any of his guidelines for the debt ceiling bill because he cannot take a stand. He wants to cater to everyone, look at his senate voting record, mostly present. I agree that 4 years ago was not any better than today but just take a look at what the dem. senate is working on today...... reviving the Dream Act..... do they not know that there is only a month to go before we hit the debt ceiling. Shouldn't that be the first priority now????
Also, how can you argue with him being the food stamp president. (sorry libs but there are no racial undertones there, it is a fact) 22 million when he came into office, 50 million now.......He has never ran a company so how would he know what to do when it comes to running the biggest economy in the world. His economic advising team has all left the sinking ship, except Gehitner, and even he is lost on a daily basis......
TReed, this was as well said as possibly could be. It's amazing how few people actually know what little power the president does have. It's in the constitution which always gets waved whenever someone doesn't agree with the presidents position even if it is just that a "position".
So how informed are you? How many Job Bills have republicans proposed and submitted to Congress? ZERO I know that the stimulus was a jobs bill , but the Democrats need to get to work too. Republican'ts were elected on their cry that Jobs would be their number one issue! Not saying No to everything Obama proposed!
At least Obama is smart enough to know when he makes a mistake, corrects it, and if necessary, apologizes. Bachmann and Palin will argue to their death that they are right when every bit of evidence is to the contrary. You can't even compare the President's occasional flubs, when he simply mis-speaks, to Bachmann's butchery of history, science, and even current events.
clwyd- Didn't paul ryan submit a bill to eliminate some of the national Debt? Isn't that what the democrats are claiming is going to throw the seniors out with the trash and leave them homless on the street......or better yet they just show a commercial of a old lady being pushed down some stairs in a wheel chair (classy). Remember that while the democrats were in complete control of the congress and the WH they couldn't even pas a yearly budget in 2010. From what I can see the republicans are pushing hard to pass something that limits govt. spending where as the dems just want to keep spending. You do know that the only money that the govt. brings in is from our tax revenues...... they don't make widgets so they can only spend what we give them but others in washington think different. Pelosi actually said that the healthcare bill can be read after they pass it, 2,500 pages, what a joke, and now it is going to be thrown out by the supreme court.....what a waste of time and money......I guess they could have been working on a jobs bill at that time but I guess not.
tired-Are you seriously trying to compare a mistake about where some one was born to being the commander in chief and mistakingly talking about a solider who recieved a medal of honor after dieing in a war, the president thought he was still alive eventhough he consoled the soliders family in the oval office.....(granted he has given out 6 of the medals so it must be confusing). He didn't have his telepromters, that is a good enough reason. You people have to get informed and stop drinking the kool aid. I am not a repub. but I am a conservative (social and fiscal). MB isn't running for a history teacher job because if that were the case Obama wouldn't have been able to get the job when he said he had visited 57 states in his 2008 campaign. Your arguements are weak.
My 4th of July Message for Freedom
People often get mad with me. They call me names like racist which I am not, but I continue to tell the truth. Very few voices, other than maybe
Glenn Beck, will stand up for our America. If our people are going to take back the White House, we need to inspire white people to get out and vote. It makes no difference whether we lie, or bend the truth in our favor, we want to win. We want Obama to be a one term president. The constitution does not say a colored guy can't be president. We just can not get used to being pushed around by a guy that does not represent the American tradition. The Tea Party is not a racist group. We love everybody. We are conservative christians who hate liberals and liberal ideas. We love God and our flag.
We hate gays and homosexuals. We hate muderers and those who support same sex marriage. We don't want people of the coloreds teaching our children in schools. We are uncomfortable with race mixing; God made us different so that we could appreciate the varieties of creation. We all should be with our kind and our kind alone. Yet, we must love everybody. We would welcome anybody to our rallies, as long as they are respectful and think as we do; holding our christian conservative values and hopes for our future as a great nation.
If we are going to win in 2012, we must turn out the white vote. All people of the coloreds are going to get behind Obama; except for the few idiots we cause to think as we do. We need to get out the white vote and convince minorities that our vision of America is best for them as well. This is the winning strategy. Michele Bachmann is the candidate who is willing to go for the white vote. Reagan tried and it worked. Old man Bush's boy "W" tried and it worked. When we come out in strong numbers we will win. We always do.
This is the proven way that we will take our country back. This country was founded on christian principals. When the communist- socialist leaning liberals took over they worked feverishly to give it to the devil. The Republicans party took a stand in the late 70's that we would become the party of God. We were the ones who would put prayer back into the schools. We would end court ordered bussing, affirmative action, and the evil practice of mandating quotas. We were going to end welfare. We were going to end trade unions and their leftist ideas. We were going to stop the practice of entering a mother's womb to ruthlessly mangle and murder her unborn citizen of this great land; who was too young and too unformed to retain legal services to plead their case in a court of law. We were going to stop people like Madeline Murray O'Hare who without regards to our wishes spread her atheist lies that poisoned our children in schools, and on college and university campuses. We were going to end the Environmental Protection Agency and the Department of Education, which only exist to tell students how evil the white man is. We would represent the Moral Majority that had been silenced by the democrats. We were going to build a conservative court that would look out for our social traditions. We lost our way. The Tea Party is giving us a way to come home to our christian roots.
Like the democrats, we let the devil come into our party. Whoremongers like Governors Schwartzenegger and Fred Sandford, gay congressmen like pedophile Mark Foley and the famed airport Senator Larry Craig were some of the demons that got in. John Ensign was a product of the devil who made the GOP look bad. They were liberal infiltrators on a mission to destroy what we had built. Even our Evangelical leader Ted Haggard permitted men to use him as if he were a woman in heat while he blew his mind out on meth. These people were the vilest of sinners who made our party look like cesspool hillbillies and trailer park rednecks. They neither loved our great nation or flag. I told you, I will tell the truth. As a Christian conservative, I hate these men as much as I do liberals and democrats. They like John McCain, who sides with Obama at times when he should be opposing Obama’s every thought, is a turn coat that gave the election away to the liberal dictator that stole the 2008 election.
We were the party of Reagan and Goldwater. We were the party that Evangelicals flocked to because our party stood for God and country. We loved our military and our flag. Our people made the world a better place. We fought back communism and won. We took down the Iron Curtain. We stopped the Cold War. We spread the christian message and caused people to believe. We went into Africa and clothed the naked natives; who for centuries had walked around not knowing the shame they depicted in pornographic literature like National Geographic.
We allowed communist like Martin Luther King to confuse us by the tactics of race baiting showing the world how evil we were. They were breaking the laws of those days. Every time a colored guy is beaten by an officer, people attack the officer for racial profiling; never asking what the criminal did to deserve such a beating. Sure, we made some mistakes, but they were innocent. Should our people be held liable for being human? We just had to grow and the people of the coloreds had to understand our ways. This what the scholars call assimilation. This is why Sen. Rand Pau our proud Tea Party hero won. America is tire of our people always being the fault of America’s ills. This is what Paul stood for when he promised to get rid of the civil rights laws. We all should have civil rights not just the people of the coloreds. Christians are not evil people. We love everybody, even the Mexicans from whatever country they come. Whether they are from Cuba,Spain, or Brazille we love the Mexican people. We love Mexican food; especially Tex-Mex. We just want them to speak our language and not take our jobs. We will help them if they stay in their own countries. This is the American spirit.
Like the dream of the great socialist bully Martin Luther King, we too have a dream for America. With our vision everyone will eventually win. We want everyone to be happy and content. We want to end the deficit and not pass debt on to future generations. We want a pay as you go budget and government. We want people to work and produce a comfortable wage for living. Everybody can’t be rich though. Who would work for others if everyone were rich? We want people to appreciate our conservative christian values. Is that too much for America? Michelle Bachmann doesn't think so. She is working everyday to bring the Tea Party message to America. In 2012 we will take the keys back to the White House and never again will we live under a minority regime. This great republic is ruled by the majority and we will win. This is what the lamestream media will never tell you. Happy Birthday and God bless America.
Wow, this much crap in one post!!
Just to point out a fact about your saint Ronald Reagan. He raised taxes every year but one during his 8 years in office. He also increased the national debt 189%.
Willie, you're not a racist. Who colored them?
I'm pretty sure this is a joke. Please say it's a joke.
It has to be a joke. No one can be that stupid.
Willie, my heart breaks for you. What I detect is a lot of despair as well as rage in your post. My prayer is that God will quell and heal all of the hatred that's threatening to destroy us all.
Peace and God's blessings to all this day.
This is how they celebrate the 4 of July in Glenbeckistan.
"We love everybody but hate liberals..." Well, which is it? You can't love everybody, yet hate liberals... Typical Tea Party nitwit speaking out of both sides of you chewing tobacco-filled mouth. Also, no one except a racist would call the President of the United States 'colored'. I didn't get any farther than that because I decided (wishful thinking) that the whole post was satire because no one could be that hateful and that ignorant in one human body.
OK, I read more of it....this is a joke. It HAS to be a joke - a very good one - it hits every stereotype possible and is too well written to be from someone really that stupid. I will consider this a piece of satire and then I won't feel bad. Good job Willie.
Hey Willie, it's a shame you weren't patriotic enough to join the military. With any luck you would have been killed and the country would have rid of one less hate driven racist. It's idiots like you that put George Bush in office and it will take us forever to recover from that.
white willly Is your bible wrapped with our Flag?Glen Beck Holy ^^it your an idiot please move out of our country and take all those old white racist people with you
There actually are people who get sucked in by Beck like this I have heard them. Pathetically they do not think on their own as they are incapable of it. To not see all the laws that Republicans are attempting to impose and yet claim they wish less government is s sad commentary on their ability to make a decision for themselves. They generally tout the Constitution as interpreted by another for them. It makes me wonder how they will react when they are told that the 14th Amendment absolutely requires the raising of the debt ceiling for example? In fact it is possible that there can not be a debt ceiling as we know it. It is unconstitutional.
Willie,
This is simply the ravings of an ignorant bigot who has no idea what Chistianity is all about.
American King
James Version
Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for
you are like to white washed sepulchers, which indeed appear beautiful outward,
but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
King
James Bible
[Ye] blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow
a camel.
WiLLIE: you blaspheme!!
These comments are laughable, coming from a group that thinks Barry's doing even some semblence of a decent job.
You think it's sad that she's neck in a neck with Mitt Romney, "because people are that ignorant"?? It's even sadder that people voted this current fool into office and continue to support him despite his remarkable failure in a desperate act to avoid admitting, YOU WERE WRONG. Hope and Change? NOT in this term, try again in 2012
The arrogance of the right is what is truly laughable. These are the candidates you produce and you think we should respect you? Obama did get us through the single worst loss of American wealth in our history. Of course that never occurred in your mind. No government intervention was necessary. We could have rebuilt this country from nothing. Couldn't we have?
I am hearing nothing coherant from the Right these days. The usual slaps at Obama but nothing of worth on the policy side. Nothing that would assist anything more than a fraction of our society.
Your side did nothing but try to block that HOPE and CHANGE. And succeeded in large part. THAT will not be forgotten.
Of course she is better at shrugging it off, she is probably (likely) used to being criticized for being stupid.
I actually believe she is too stupid to know she is being criticized.
The B word is too nice to use when describing this loony toon!
What A LIE !
Chris Wallace PUT OUT AN APOLOGY !
For Asking her about being a FLAKE ...........................
I still dont know what the problem is with a flake asking a flake if she's a flake! Do you GOPers honestly believe that Bachmann or Plaian for that matter, would be anything more than a puppet for much larger political forces in the GOP???
A very wise man once said; "Every country has the goverment it deserves". If our latest elections are an example; we are in serious trouble. And it goes both ways!
And to paraphrase P. J. O'Rourke, "Republicans run on a platform that government doesn't work then they get elected and prove it."
The only government that works for the Republican's is a white only segregated ran government that works when the Republican's are in office.
Let's see eight years of Bush and Cheney was a failure that was placed on the Democrats.
Bin Laden was killed which was a success for everyone except for the Republican's.
Graduated cum laud from the Palin school of fact finding.
Palin who?....is she running for something?