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Subscribe to RSSIn First Thoughts this morning, we wondered if Tim Pawlenty's decision to hit Mitt Romney on health care -- after refusing to do so at Monday's debate -- was a sign of panic or campaign disagreement.
A campaign official stresses to First Read, however, that any sign of disagreement isn't true. “The Pawlenty team is united and confident in our strategy to take the fight to Mitt Romney on health care," the official said.
The official went on to say that the campaign set up its challenge to Romney perfectly -- by playing up "ObamneyCare" on FOX the day before the debate, and by holding a health-care-related event hours before the debate.
But there was just one problem: Pawlenty didn't deliver in the debate.
"As he acknowledged, he missed," the official added. "And it's not going to happen again."
Reached for official comment, Pawlenty spokesman Alex Conant tells First Read, “Tim Pawlenty screwed up in the debate. Mitt Romney screwed up health care in Massachusetts."
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With a cool street name like T-Paw, you'd think he'd be a bit tougher. But when you can get punked by the likes of Romney, perhaps its better just to pack it up and go ice fishing.
Watch out for those little guys with the teeth Timmy.
He's rapidly transforming into a 'T-Pick'!
I was punked by Casper the friendly ghost - T-Paw
His goose is cooked. Bye Bye
Feisty:
He is a little late to the draw. In this political environment your opportunities are few and far in between to score points. Snooze and you lose. T-Paw lost.
See ya at the DDI later.
You betcha! I think our friendly little wager this morning has ended up a 'draw'!
It's an honor to stand by your side! ;o)
Tim, go and rent Sharron Angle's gloves. I betcha, you'll punch the hell out of that unemployed Mitt.
feisty, get thy pop corn ready
Is everybody else on FR as bored as I am by reading about the Republicans day in and day out, and it's eight months to the primary, already?
No wonder folks kept the Weiner story alive for so long - anything to drown out the drama of Romney/Pawlenty/Bachmann/Gingrich/Santorum/Huntsman.......blech.
The problem, Amy, is with the writers on this site.
See, they claim to be the place for politics, but they are highly selective about WHAT politics they "place". In other words, they choose to ignore a lot of stories.
They ignore Issa's hearings on the ATF, under Holder, watching Mexican drug lords buying guns in this country to smuggle back to Mexico- one of which was used to kill one of our border agents not too long ago. Hearings that started just this week, in fact.
Could have made some pretty interesting reading.
They missed the secret meeting, with long term donors, held in the Blue Room of the White House. It was organized by the DNC, and brought together Obama and Wall Street moneymen.
In March. In secret.
http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm/0611/we_are_very_transparent_bab9e7a8-0f88-42be-afc1-7fbfde9dc31e.html
Since there is not a lot of good propaganda to spew about Obama, they concentrate on tearing down the republican field.
With inflation soaring, the economy stagnant, and unemployment unacceptably high, next week should be Palin week.
I heard she sneezed.
Strange you should bring up that criminal Issa's name and investigation in the same sentence. He's the one that needs to be investigated.
Your comment goes beyond lame deflection. Are you aware of the term slander?
Issa is unfortunate enough to have a brother who is a criminal. There are many people in the same, unfortunate position.
Using it against them is low.
Using it to defend any action of Obama's is typical.
95% of people in Mass. have healthcare..... thats a screw-up?
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95% of people in Mass. have healthcare..... thats a screw-up?
That's 99% of the people have healthcare and it is rated the second best healthcare system in the nation.
Ah, let them go No JO - ignorance is bliss.
Just sit back and wait - 99% of our fine libbie friends have no idea about Gun-Runner or what is going to come out of it in the coming weeks.
It really will be funny. Issa and his investigation will be taking down a huge part of the DOJ. I was just reading a detailed article on it which compared it to Contra-gate on steroids.
All because they were trying to bolster their ridiculous argument that US gun stores are arming the cartels. I do a lot of shopping in Az. gun stores, and try as I might I still can't seem to buy even one RPG or full auto AK 47. Whereas the US sells millions and millions of weapons to the Mexican Army. But yeah, it's no doubt the gun stores.
gop/tea-bags have no policies except to carnival bark: "Jerry mobile home Springer issues"like they always do in every election, to try to deflect REAL ISSUES ABOUT THE GENERAL AMERICAN PUBLIC!.....btw...we know the gop/teanutfu-ks are for the rich..............Obama/Biden 2012
The Lil Paw's great claim to fame is that he kept the legitimately elected monster Franken out of office for a whole four months. To stand out as a nay-sayer in a party of nay-sayers is an accomplishment.
It's a little more than that, NoJo. Issa himself has been twice arreested and once convicted on weapons charges.
Are you aware of the term slander?
Apparently you're not, at least in the context in which you used it here. Slander is a malicious, false and defamatory spoken statement, while libel usually takes the written form. This being a text-based medium, I would suggest that you take a moment to review both definitions before you make an ass of yourself yet again here.
Not T-Paw, but T-Puss.
This was an EPIC self inflected punked the likes of which I will never forget. Can you imagine this guy with a Nikita Khrushchev type opponent on the world scene. Half of us would glow in the dark and the other half would be speaking Russian. He simply does not have the integrity to be the President of the United States of America.
T-Paw is just like Anthony Wiener; they are both a couple of limp dicks.
It's saddening to come here and read the rather juvenile taunts about Pawlenty and Romney. Even sadder is the fact that the Republicans simply don't have a candidate who is interested in the welfare of the United States. Seriously, this group is pathetic.
The best thing that could happen for Republicans AND Democrats is for the G.O.P. to tell their right-wing social engineers, tyrants, totalitarians, and evangelicals that this is about the future of our country. It is not about relegating women to second-class citizens, to deny Americans their Constitutional rights, to continue to enrich to filthy rich, and pretend that there are magical solutions to our problems.
If they put up an intelligent candidate - and by no means is it too late to do that - they could turn this country around and force President Obama to lay out a plan for all to see.
I'd like to hear from serious posters who they think that worthy Republican opponent might be.
Well put, David.
eisenhower ..wait he's dead.. truman wait dead again .. roosevelt ..dead lincoln oh ya .. dead. palin,bachmann pwlenty... WER'E DEAD!
Pawlenty camp admits it 'screwed up'
A headline that we will read of every half assed GOP candidate they have throw out there.
@Silver Flyer
"Not T-Paw, but T-Puss"
lmao hehehe - you beat me to it.
This guy is such a wuss it's not even possible to say in words.
And as for having an independent thought of his own, forget about it!
We need a investigation on bachmann's farm subsidies that she gets, l see FRAUD.
He didn't "screw up..." it wasn't the correct venue. That "debate" was nuts, way too crowded for anything substantial to manifest from anyone and it was Michelle Bachmann's "coming out party." Waste of air time.
One-upmanship between Republican Tea Party candidates. "How much farther to the right can I go than compared to my competitors?" Makes me wonder what "ultra-pure" characteristics/values/beliefs/behaviors/goals the ideal right-winger is supposed to believe in and publicly display, in order to win over the 110 percent approval of their conservative voting constituents, anyway?
Bachmann is pulling down farm subsidies from the government in one hand, and getting paid by the Government for her labor to work the farm and clean the house, it is why she became a Foster Parent.
"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America 's debt limit is a sign of
leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government can not pay its own
bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from
foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless fiscal policies.
Increasing America 's debt weakens us domestically and internationally.
Leadership means that 'the buck stops here.' Instead, Washington is shifting the
burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren.
America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.
Americans deserve better."
SENATOR BARACK H. OBAMA, MARCH, 2006
1/20/09 - Approval Rating 65% 6/24/11 - Approval Rating 45% and tanking!
T-Paw was never a true contender. He is proving it.
Yeah, but who is the contender? I think its gonna be 2004 all over again. You got an embattled president on the ropes, coughing up blood, and who do the dems send in to finish him off? John Freakin' Kerry? Flash forward to 2012, similar scenario. Mitten Freakin' Romney? Dems and repubs specialize in blown opportunities.
So you are sure it's going to be Mitt?
Me, I think I'll give it a month or two more to see who it's going to be. Or at least the potential field.
Who's your fave Spanky m'lad?
To state the obvious, there doesn't seem to be any enthusiasm for any of the GOP candidates from the people or the party. If there was, why are they still courting Christie, Giuliani, Perry and who know who else.
My feeling it comes down to Romney and Huntsman.
Indy lib,
Are you asking Spanky who his Favorite candidate is??
Spanky,
What do you think about the bogus budget California's legislators submitted and was promptly vetoed?
Jerry Brown should agree to put the Republican proposals on budget reform, spending cap and pension reform on the ballot along with the tax extensions and end this irritating kabuki dance. The "bogus budget" submitted by the Democrat majority is a farce that is only intended to protect their incomes. California's tradition of dysfunctional government, which makes us the laughing stock of the country, continues.
I think Perry will be good.
Tough to beat him on economic issues, particularly job creation. Why my fine state alone loses a butt-load of employers and jobs every month to Texas.
And Amy I couldn't agree more, but they have to try to invent "rifts in the GOP" or fights in the Tea-party." Me, I'd rather discuss the actual issues, like debt, inflation, and maybe even the Gun-Runner scandal.
But how about this - my buddy Drive by and many others love to ask Boehner about jobs. So Boeing went out, to a new state and built a $1 billion dollar facility where it will employ many people. In total thousands of jobs created.
Now drive by and Obama have chided "big business" for sitting on the sidelines, "hoarding" $2 trillion in money. They, and others say business needs to get out there and start hiring
So Boeing did exactly that. And what did Obama and the gang do? Why the NLRB sued Boeing for it's efforts. Now Boeing has hired thousands of new employees in Washington, but that's not good enough. So Drive By:
1. You think this lawsuit will positively or negatively effect other company's decisions to "get out there and hire?";
2. does the lawsuit have any merit?
3. Why does Obama favor one state or another?
4. Why won't Obama call off the NLRB? and
5. Who is going to win?
See Amy, we can just treat the silly articles as open forums. When something actually happens we'll be here. Until then...
Edward, yeah. I'm just curious. I haven't read where he has expressed a preference and I'd like to see if his fave repub pick would be the same as mine.
Boom, I see Spanky's posted. Rats, we disagree. I've always been partial to Ron Paul myself. I actually voted for him in 1988 as a Libertarian.
totas - I really don't pay too much attention to Cali's legislative circus.
Cali is doomed. For real. It really is a progressive paradise, i.e. the ghost of Christmas future for the country. Unlike Wisconsin, the unions and democrats are firmly in control, of that there is no dispute.
So by all means let's raise the debt ceiling and keep all those entitlements, cause things are really looking up around here.
Say, where's the Cali bailout? Too big too fail, right?
Heck fellas I'd take anyone who was a CPA, or even a bookkeeper.
Good news is, it is getting so bad that soon it will only be about fiscal issues. It already has become a question of whether to cut or not cut, only how much to cut.
In reality Obama is almost the same as Bush is almost every way. I was hoping Obama, a hardcore liberal, would at least protect personal liberties and freedoms. But no, he has kept or expanded every Bush policy, including the Patriot Act. And now Writs of possession.
It really is horrifying, and that's before talking about his insane expansions of the wars. I thought he was supposed to end the wars. Nope, blowing through millions everday now in Libya. Senseless.
So I'll take anyone who will reign it all in - all the spending. Anyone who can see that spending a dollar when you only have $.60 is probably a really bad idea.
But again, it will be so bad, even by the end of this summer, that it won't matter who it is. It will not be Obama. It's just the way it works. Ask Bush #1.
Spanky,
I had not heard about the Boeing lawsuit brought by the NLRB until your post.
The NLRB has sued Boeing, alleging the company decided to build the facility in South Carolina in retaliation for labor strikes by workers at its Puget Sound plant near Seattle.
It sure appears that the lawsuit is a political issue as it shows President Obama's administration is pandering and beholden to unions. If the lawsuit is ultimately successful, Boeing could be forced to build the planes it intends to build in Charleston, S.C., in Seattle.
Holy Son of Jorel. Boeing builds a new plant to build the 787, hires thousands and they want to shut this all down because of a labor dispute. It brings untold dollars to the community and provides good paying jobs and long-term employment to thousands.
Where is it written that the federal government needs to approve what state a corporation can build a plant? Talk about over-reach.
BTW. That's why I like Huntsman. He's for shutting down all the wars now or as quickly as possible, no if's and or buts. Saves a boat load of money.
Groucho writes:
Holy Son of Jorel. Boeing builds a new plant to build the 787, hires thousands and they want to shut this all down because of a labor dispute. It brings untold dollars to the community and provides good paying jobs and long-term employment to thousands.
Where is it written that the federal government needs to approve what state a corporation can build a plant? Talk about over-reach.
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I just read about this myself. I can't believe that are we are now pitting states against each other. Jumpin' Jesus on a pogo stick, does politics have to infect every aspect of our lives these days?
As California goes, so goes the Nation.
To big to fail - The unions are advancing The anti-bankruptcy bill now headed to the state Senate. basically want there to be no options short of raising taxes to pay for the unsustainable level of pay and benefits granted to their members.
Sick!
THe NLRB's case has no merit and will fail. It's not even pandering, it is the government taking sides, not just against a private company, but also against a state, which just happens to be a right to work state [non-union].
The issue here is all day long the monkeys here [yeah, I'm looking at you Drive BY] and Obama scream and yell that corporate America wants Obama to fail, that they won;t do anything to help. Well Boeing did exactly what they wanted - creating not just the factory jobs but all the other attendant jobs, and what did they get? Sued.
Funny how quiet they all seems to be now, eh Groucho? COuld you imagine is you decided to move you business, but the government said no, it would negatively effect you workers? So the workers are the bosses, eh? Only in Obama land.
Indy Lib..
Well, shut the front door, I could not agree more.
The door swings both ways, I'm sure the people of the state of Washington expect their politicians to do anything and everything they can to keep those jobs and even bring more jobs. This is not Obama's doing and the NLRB does not bring charges on anyone, charges are always initiated by either labor or management that feels they have been wronged. There are plenty of politicians from the state of Washington and the Seattle area pushing this as well. You can blame all kinds of people but you can't in all fairness act like Obama is executing a vendetta to punish Boeing, unless your saying he filed the complaint with the NLRB. When it is all said and done then you can blame the NLRB under the Obama administration, for whatever happens, but his personal fingerprints are not on this.
Sorry this was from an earlier thread but I wanted to make sure you got my reply
@ Thetotas
Forrest,
I have been in a union for 8 years and I am speaking from my personal experience and I don't trust them. What do you have?
I would suggest you get involved with your local union, run for a position of responsibility, fix what it is you feel is wrong, speak up and voice your concerns, or you should quit, you should not be complicit to something that you feel is so corrupt. There is nothing more wormy than somebody who takes part in corruption because the money is good, instead of attempting to correct what he feels is wrong, and then complains about "corruption". I would never suggest anybody take part in what they feel is corrupt, you should step up and be a force for whatever it is you feel needs changing, or you should quit, anything less would be morally and intellectually corrupt on your part.
He forfeited his right to the T-Paw nickname. Going forward I will call him Wimpy Timmy P. If Wmpy Timmy cannot stand up to Weathervane Willard in the debates, how can we expect him to stand up to Al Queda, China, Iran, and North Korea?
Did you get my mean tweets you bad old puddy cat? I'm pawlenty mad now Mitty cat. Tim (Bad Tweety) Pawlenty
Forrest, you crack me up. "I thought I saw a Mitty Cat! I DID, I DID see a Mitty Cat!"
Look at his droopy eyes (he kind of looks like Tweety) and repeat what you just said it cracks me up too.
Pawlenty is now more like pollenta!
Let's forget about who comes up with the flashiest sound bite. I think the Amercian people are over due to elect someone with just plain common sense. We havent had a real hero since Ronald Reagan defeated Jimmy Carter. Now we've got "Jimmy 2.0" that needs to be replaced. Were not going to get this country back on track by ignoring entitlements or encouraging more people to go on them. This is a great country because of true Americans who do thier damdest to fend for themselves before reaching for a hand. We just need to get back to that era of personal responsibility......
Heros accomplish great things despite adversity. Jimmy Carter is my hero. Ronald Reagan was a congenial old blowhard.
President Reagan was not a hero -- then or now, but let history be the judge of that. Consider Afghanistan, consider Iran....President Reagan put us on the wrong side of history -- we aided the Taliban against the Soviet Union; we funded the Contra rebels by stealthily selling arms to Iran. George H.W Bush was actually president when the East Germans tore down the Berlin wall.
And there it is: "Jimmy Carter is my hero." I could think of no quote that could as accurately summed up who Amy is than that. I don't suppose you care to tell us why he is your hero? Also, why is it do you think that 99% of the world disagrees with you? And what great things did Carter accomplish?
And Kate do you recall who our enemy was in 1985? Why is it do you think that history has been so kind to Reagan and so mean to Carter? Kate do you consider the fall of the Soviets to be a great thing?
Well, Spanky, I graduated from high school in 1976. The first president I voted for was Gerald Ford, but the second was Jimmy Carter. I observed Carter's values first hand, and I would call him a hero.
For one thing, I remember his telling the country we had to get off foreign oil. I remember his promoting the development of solar power and urging people to conserve energy. After Reagan took office the drive to develop alternative energy fell by the wayside. Big cars, big hair, and mass denial dominated the 80's. Imagine if Carter had won re-election, where this country would be in terms of energy independence.
That doesn't even cover the things Carter has done post-presidency. To me, Jimmy Carter is the embodiment of true Christianity, having worked for peace and the allieviation of suffering his whole career.
Bravo! Bravo! Wholeheartedly agree with Amy! What Carter is doing After he was President is more important to me that what he did while he was President. (Although don't they still call former Presidents: Mr President?)
Of course this is coming from somebody who also gives Nixon a fair time. Yes, he did things that were criminal and unbecoming of the office of the President, but that does Not erase the good things he also did! Was he a "hero"? NO! God, forbid I ever refer to him as such but he was not just one sided.
Do I believe that Nixon broke the law with full awareness that it was both wrong and illegal? He had to have known it was illegal but he tried to convince himself that it was not wrong. That to me is pathetic and he should be condemned for it! But still like I said before the bad a leader does cannot take away completely from the good that they've also done.
I'm with you Amy.
Carter was ahead of his time. And the country didn't have the time or the compassion to let his ideas work. His influence post-presidency has been even greater.
America tends to ridicule honesty and integrity.
President Reagan was a nice man but a so-so President. That small government pitch was and still is today, the biggest bunch of crap ever sold.
I can't help but laugh uncontrollably when I hear the teapublicans of today swoon over their hero Ronnie Regan.
Ronald Regan - Raised Taxes nine times during his presidency. OMG!
Ronald Regan - Granted Amnesty to illegals. OMG OMG
Ronald Regan - Sold arms to terrorists. OMG OMG OMG
Ronald Regan - Eliminated a boat load of tax deductions. OMG OMG OMG OMG
Ronald Regan - The very reason for the Brady bill. Gun control OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG
So since he was your hero are we to assume that you are in fact in favor of raising taxes, eliminating tax deductions, granting amnesty to illegals, blowing off the war on terror and looking into more gun control? After all, that what your kind of hero does.
Keep the new names coming, but right now, I gotta go with "pollenta." When cooked badly or even well, it's still - mush!
If he just had some Grrr in him, we could have called him Tiger-Paw, but now he's just a mouse-paw . . . or maybe a mouse pad. Hmmm . . .
"He's rapidly transforming into a 'T-Pick'!"
Did you leave the 'r' out on purpose?
Damn keyboard stuck! ;o)
Heh heh. I had the same thought drive-by.
T-Paw's best is in play Seinfeld "don't beleive the hype routines". This are quiet understaded events done in perfect reasonable ness. If you look at T-paw's election and re-election tapes this shows through over and over again. But it quietness a sign of leadership? That's debateable.
Here in Minnesota we think that T-paws is dangerous in a "don't beleive the hype " settings. But if you take him away from that he stumbles and sometimes badly. The T-paws wasn't a great legislative debate in the legislature -he let others do that and hearded the cats along. He has no real sense of drama, and he hasn't surrounded himself with good speech wirters either.
Watching his performances so far he is not much of a fire eater either. He has no memorable lines other than Oboamneycare. And he's squadered that. and just what is Obamaneycare anyway? Here is a debate waiting to happen-but doesn't and won't. Tell us why specifically Obamneycare is so bad? Is it because if covers pre-existing conditions? Is it because people with diabetes are now covered? Is it because pregnant women can't be truned down for health insurce because they are Pregnant?
Republicans really don't want to go there. If it is costs-then let's ask this: if you had concer, how much would you pay to get rid of it? would you stop if it was over $25,000? Where would you say it's too much?
The answer is You'd do anything to get rid of it. But that's just you. what about every one else? would you allow them the same chioce?
Republican don't like that deabte-because it leads them to see how emotional health care is.
They like the nice title-but they never want to get to the specifics. Because if the specifics come out-they lose. Democrat out to force Pawlenty to explain Obamneycare. Force him page by page and line by line into explantion.
I'm impressed that Mitt took on health care to help his state while he served in the very first place. This was a majority Demo group he worked together in Mass. to at least try and get something going. Look what happened when you let the Feds take over. Sounds like a "light bulb joke" How many Senators does it take to.........I agree with Mitt and all other republicans who were not invited to give input as the Dems met behind closed doors and Dear Nancy said" Just sign the health care bill and we will read it later to see what it actually says" A good leader would have sought solutions from both sides of the isle and of course it would have been a no-brainer for Obama to meet or at least reach out to Mitt and others who did like things and other things in their individual states to ask what is working for you guys and what is not. Heck, even invite them to play 18 holes to review their success and failures would have been very wise and respectful. Our country would be so much better with a two-way radio system instead of the one hand held loud speaker Obama uses to make announcements and then takes no ownership of the results and or places wrongful blame to cover his and his parties multiple blunders.
Julie, how well do you remember the Affordable Care Act legislation? Input was invited all the time, in all the committees. Sen. Olympia Snowe was on one of the committees...pieces of the legislation were altered or dropped because of GOP refusal to commit to doing anything. The person who advised Gov. Romney on the Massachusetts health care legislation also advised the White House and Congress....but the Republicans stonewalled everything along the way. The Obama administration did learn from the attempt President Clinton made to reform health care -- at that time, YES, the plan was done behind closed doors with Hillary Clinton and presented as a done deal. But that's not what happened with the PP ACA.
Kate - how well doyou remember the make up of the House and Senate when Obamacare was voted on?
Is it your position that it required approval by Snowe, or any other republican
Julie, you have mangled Nancy Pelosi's quote.
At he time, there were constant ammendments to the health care legislation as various factions sought to change it. There was a lot of confusion about exactly what was contained in the bill at any given moment. This led Pelosi to say "we have to vote on the bill so you can find out what is actually in it."
In typical fashion, the right insists on misquoting to suit their agenda.
Julie,
Good point, but remember, they didn't want any input from anyone because they didn't need it. They were laser focused on pushing thru an agenda that had so much small print, and read between the line legislation, the intent wasn't health care reform, or financial reform, it was all about control.
You are using logic based on common sense. The dems, with their super majority didn't use, want, or need any of that. The were cabinet members in Obama's cabinet he didn't even speak to for over 18 months, he was so busy ramming his agenda down our throats ... and just imagine what he'll do if he gets 4 more years without having to worry about another campaign .... you ain't seen nothin' if that happens. We must vote him, and all his appointed hit men out of this government ... for good.
The real problem here is that Gov. Pawlenty and his campaign team are not on the same page and it appears that the campaign is telling Pawlenty what to do or say and how to act, rather than have Pawlenty determine who and what he will be. The campaign "set up its challenge to Romney perfectly.." but the candidate "screwed up." Hardly a ringing endorsement for a presidential candidate. Speaker Gingrich had a similar problem, resolved when the campaign staff left him. What voters want is an authentic candidate, speaking in his or her own voice, with his or her own convictions, not a bunch of campaign staff subliminal messages. Perhaps Pawlenty's truest self was his statement that "any doofus can run for President..."
Look what Massachusetts had for a senator all those years. Teddy (Chappaquiddick) Kennedy. So you know what a tough job Romney had dealing with those kind of voters. Maybe it's something in the water??
Anyway, this is his big chance to help the rest of us take out the remaining Democratic trash. Romney/Pawlenty 2012
Casper/Tweety 2012, One is really white/one is really yellow, Mitt/Paw 2012 I'm not feeling it Ed.
Funny.
as they say, you only have one chance to make a first impression !!! poor tim. he will always be known as the "gutless wonder" !!! and any attempt to change his image will look contrived !!! PACK IT IN PAW !!! your home awaits !!!
Tim Pawlenty is far from done. However, the opening for Texas Governor Rick Perry is there. He would be a tough candidate against Obama.
Just count the number of moonbat lies about Rick Perry wanting 'secession'. The lefties fear him, have no doubt.
Bob,
Can you smell it?? The stink of libbie fear in the air?? And look how early it is.
dear bob
I doubt that you read the polls(REAL CLEAR POLITICS) !!! give me a nice post when pawlenty breaks through the 5% barrier !!! until then, pass me a little of what you're smoking !!!
Americans don't want another Bush, and that's all you see in Perry.
Perry even sounds like him. lol
Tim is a wimp!!!! Romney punked him on national tv and all that he could do was stand there with that blank look on his face while Romney grinned.
Sarah 'Barracuda's got nothing on him... ;o)
He reminds me of Wink Martingdale...
I suspect you meant "Wink Martindale."
That would be the one - thanks for the catch!
The problem for T-Paw is that Monday night John King handed him a debaters dream question, the perfect opportunity to repeat his ObamneyCare one-liner but he did not use it. Too little, too late; these dream questions rarely present themselves a second time.
Pawlenty was right not to challenge Romney, he would have gotten himself buried! Pawlenty is a nice guy with good ideas, but him taking on Romney is like bringing a knife to a gun fight. None of the other candidates want to take Romney on directly as the know it will be a tough intellectual battle to do so.
Sorry fool.... your moment to shine and prove yourself ..was at the first debate ...now everyone is just bored with you .... America was looking for leadership ...NOT A FOLLOWER ! ... and all we got was the usual republican psycho babble .....You got played by your own party !
If he wants to take on Obama/Romneycare he needs to campaign for the Senate and Congress and the federal govenrment to pay for their own healthcare. It's time too stop saying "Free for Me and Not for You"!
Two Quick Comments: 1) it was not a debate, by even the loosest of application of the term; rather, it was a 2-hour premeditated bashing of President Obama by 7 "candidates" who refused to follow the rules established by CNN and their Moderator 2) Governor Pawlenty is no more presidential material than he is a brain surgeon. His tenure as Governor of the State of Minnesota, and the waste laid of that fine state, demonstrates his title as "incompetent administrator."
He does have one dominant attribute consistent with his Party: arrogance, as he is as arrogant as are the other 6 on the dais - and those of his Party in Washington, D.C.
BTW: before any "supporters" begin judging who and what I am by slinging the "Lib" term, I am a life-long independent voter, born & bred in the Upper Midwest of the USA. I have always voted for the individual v. the party, only after applying objective thought and analysis to track record and platform.
saftgek,
Well, your right on your first point. That was not a debate, and was never intended to be a debate.
That was an introduction to the American people of seven fine American-born candidates for the esteemed Republican nomination.
As for bashing Obama, that's become a national pastime. ("Hey, how you doing?? Oh I'd be doing OK, if it wasn't for that dammed Obama")
Just automatic anymore.
"Owww, my back is killing me. Better go get some of that MF'n Obamacare"
"Look that gas is now OVER $4 bucks a gallon.....thanks Obama"
Sorry fool.... your moment to shine and prove yourself ..was at the first debate ...now everyone is just bored with you .... America was looking for leadership ...NOT A FOLLOWER ! ... and all we got was the usual republican psycho babble .....You got played by your own party !
Ex Governor of the State of Minnesota and left it 6 billion in the hole. He can't fix s%#t. like the rest of that field!
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He can't do any worse than Sarah Paul Revere Palin or Newt I don't wear the pants Gingrich
IMO, if Palenty can't confront a fellow candidate during a simple debate, how will he be able to confront national/international issues while in office? His cowardice is pause for concern.
With that said.....RON PAUL 2012!!!!