Clues from past reelection campaigns: What does Obama have to say?

NBC's Domenico Montanaro takes a look back at presidents who have run for reelection in the past 30 years in search of clues for what President Obama might say in 2012.

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I dunno know...

Maybe the all determining MSM can tell us!

After all, they are the ones who DRIVE the narrative & paid to tell people what to think...

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#1 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 12:44 PM EDT

Amazing joke. Obama or nothing! As this country erodes to less than Europe. Or maybe that's what a socialist like you want.

No jobs - High food costs and fuel is higher for longer than ever! What a great leader you love, fiesty!

Crushed in 2012!

  • 14 votes
#1.1 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:02 PM EDT

I love, love love the inference from this article - that somehow all Obama has to do is SAY the right thing.

See that's really the rub for poor old Obama. He's the boss, apple-sauce. It is no longer the time for saying, but rather DOING.

So the real question is what is he doing? Not so much. He tried Stimulus. Didn't work. He tried QE2 - our money is now worth a lot less, thank you very little.

He came out with a budget that was soundly rebuked by all. He did the debt commission thing-y, which he ignored.

But hey Fannie and Freddie are still going gang busters, and he "saved" all those auto jobs. Oh wait, not so much there either.

See Hope and Change were pretty words, but now we have actual actions to compare to. My favorite was the stimulus and its 1. shovel ready jobs, and 2. unemployment will not go above 7%.

Pretty, but meaningless words. Sure the unemployment thing may have just been a miscalculation, but he had to admit the shovel ready jobs was a lie.

Ok all you cheer-leaders tell my why I am wrong. Tell me that all he needs to do is come up with more pretty words. I'm sure that's all the 9.1% unemployed want to hear. I'm sure that will return the value to our savings accounts.

Yep - words.

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#1.2 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:07 PM EDT
Comment author avatarFeisty Redhead Roselle, ILExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Come to think of it - President Obama doesn't need to say ANYTHING!

When anyone with an IQ above a turnip, takes a look at the choices they have with the current crop of clowns, errr... I mean Teapublican contenders, moderates & independents will vote for him in DROVES!

Regardless of where the unemployment numbers are...

Fired UP and READY to GO!

  • 8 votes
#1.3 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:11 PM EDT

And there it is - that's the best Feisty, head Obama cheerleader, could come up with.

"regardless of where the unemployment numbers are." And she really believes that. OH MY!

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#1.4 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:14 PM EDT

Obama can't run on his accomplishments, at least not his economic ones. He can't run on slogans like Yes We Can or Hope and Change. He can only kill bin Laden once. So the only thing left for Obama is demagoguery. Demagoguery of the Right, Republicans, and Ryan. Demagoguery of Romney, Christie and Palin. Demagoguery of Pawlenty, Newt, and Cain. The negative attack ads will start in Jan/2012 and won't end until Nov/2012. Obama will run on not being "Them". It's his only chance.

  • 10 votes
#1.6 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:16 PM EDT

Obama will also need a compliant, forgiving, and cheerleading media. But he already has that.

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#1.7 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:23 PM EDT

"So the only thing left for Obama is demagoguery"

Why stop so soon? Why not add;

Pals around with terroists?

Reads from a telepromter (like everyone eles)?

Rev. Wright?

Kenyan?

Death Panels?

Commie?

Yep- plenty of them demagogueries to go 'round, I'd say.

(oops- almost forgot one of the biggies- "liberal" media. Like Fox, and all the AM stations that ran Air America off the airwaves.....)

  • 7 votes
#1.8 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:42 PM EDT

John M-2860409

Amazing joke. Obama or nothing! As this country erodes to less than Europe. Or maybe that's what a socialist like you want.

You better come from under your slimy rock and pay attention. The joke is the Republicans and their Wack-a-doodle candidates all vying to be nuttier the next.

No jobs - High food costs and fuel is higher for longer than ever! What a great leader you love, fiesty!

Blame it on the Republican retards who want the country to go into receivership since their priorty is to not work with the President in order for this country to fail.


Contrary to what you say, see what Nashville fan wrote the other day and learn something.


President obama has worked to implement his stimulus plan, health care plan, Iraq War withdrawal plan, Afghanistan/Pakistan plan, BP Oil leak clean up plan, banking industry collapse plan, housing bubble plan, Supreme Court giving corporations free speech rights plan, Arab Spring plan, eliminate Bin Laden plan, and deal with tea party/birther/assorted foolishness plan in his first HALF TERM.

Now, we are all supposed to think that the Republican Party is courageous for proposing ONE half a$$ plan to eliminate Medicare? Seriously?

Not ONE pundit gave our President any “credit” for having a plan . . . hell, the President can’t even get any credit when the plan WORKS!

President Obama has treated his time in office like exactly what it is . . . a JOB! He has been working his $#@$ off since BEFORE he was inaugurated, all against the backdrop of so called elected “representatives” working to see him and our country fail

sident Obama has treated his time in office like exactly what it is . . . a JOB! He has been working his $#@$ off since BEFORE he was inaugurated, all against the backdrop of so called elected “representatives” working to see him and our country fail.

And now these same jackholes have the unmitigated GALL to come back around talking about lets not “demagogue”? These same “birther/ death panel/ Muslim/Nazi” smear spreading liars? The same folks who spread lies about the stimulus and then showed up at check signings?

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That's a 10-4; got that?


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#1.9 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:47 PM EDT

TELL THE TRUTH........Obama should own this economy he saved it from ruin but still have a lot to do. tell the people to look into the future and not backwards. teapublicants has a very bad past they'll never ever want to look at and what they're offering for the future is unthinkable. with a clueless congress, they want to kill medicare and give tax cuts to the rich.....gosh.

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#1.10 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:50 PM EDT

Oh that silver tongued devil, President Barack Obama. Why who would want to listen to him speak when you could hear the likes of this:

He who warned, uh, the … the British that they weren’t gonna be takin’ away our arms, uh, by ringin’ those bells and, um, by makin’ sure that as he’s ridin’ his horse through town to send those warnin’ shots and bells that, uh, we were gonna be secure and we were gonna be free … and we were gonna be armed.

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#1.11 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:54 PM EDT

Pius- Ever notice how all the time we get on here and say the Repubs are 'ME FIrsters', and that they only care about the already wealthy, and that giving away the farm to corporations seems to be their only concern?

Ever notice how you NEVER see a one of them deny these statements?

Why is that, I wonder?

  • 5 votes
#1.12 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:54 PM EDT

Obama's 2012 Themes:

"I tried! Really, really hard."

and

"Really, it's just a bump in the road."

and

"Would you buy 'It's Bush's fault' again?"

  • 6 votes
#1.13 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:54 PM EDT

DBO

Your are right. truth eludes them. you wonder why any of their presidential clowns say the truth the next minute they're apologize. they can't stand the TRUTH.

  • 4 votes
#1.14 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:03 PM EDT

Joanna, you're wrong. Obama can run on his record on the economy. It's really pretty positive. Things are much improved.

Look at the graphs on these links:

Jobless Claims Graph: http://www.bullandbearwise.com/InitialJoblessChart.asp

GDP Graph: http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/national/gdp/gdp_glance.htm

Dow Jones Graph: http://www.forecast-chart.com/stock-dow-industrial.html

  • 2 votes
#1.15 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:06 PM EDT

Maybe he should say "I'm sorry"...or "Ooops".

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#1.16 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:09 PM EDT

he should play the race card, the man be holdin' me down!

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#1.17 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:15 PM EDT

I guess he needs to say more lies. That's what got him elected the first time. He certainly won't get reelected based on his performance. His performance to date is carteresk!

  • 5 votes
#1.18 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:16 PM EDT

Obama 2012 Campaign Themes:

"It's either this, or American Idol"

and

"Are you better of than you were 4 years ago? Wait, no, check that!!"

and

"Reelect me, or I'll start smoking again!"

  • 3 votes
#1.19 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:25 PM EDT

Feisty Airhead,

When anyone with an IQ above a turnip, takes a look at the choices they have with the current crop of clowns, errr... I mean Teapublican contenders, moderates & independents will vote for him in DROVES!

Actually, I would vote for a Paul the Octopus, a Jenny the Elephant, an Eli the Orangutan, or any monkey that can slap a peanut on a photo of a football helmet before I would vote for Obama.

That may sound like a mindless insult to Obama, but in reality, statistically speaking the monkey (or whatever) would make some correct decisions simply based on random probability.

With the exception of Obama's OBL decision, (a non-decision) Obama has made the wrong decision on everything. Spend more vs. don't spend more; wantonly destroy the energy industry vs. don't wantonly destroy the energy industry; regulate more vs. don't regulate more; do a budget vs. don't do a budget; go into Libya vs. don't go into Libya; destroy the value of the dollar vs. don't destroy the value of the dollar with QE2; nationalize the automotive industry vs. don't; fix Fannie / Freddie vs. don't fix Fannie / Freddie ......

You guys talk about the Repubs wanting Obama to fail.

Too stupid to realize he already has? Worst recovery in modern history.

At least out of an octopus, elephant, orangutan or monkey ......... two would statistically be able to come up with the right anwer......... 50% better than the liberals here at FR.

  • 5 votes
#1.20 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:25 PM EDT

Eric, he spent A TRILLION DOLLARS and promised unemployment will never reach 8%. 3 years later and we still have over 9%. That's failure that no graph can overcome!

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#1.21 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:27 PM EDT

"10% Unemployment...hey it could be worse"

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#1.22 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:29 PM EDT

Only the teleprompter knows.

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#1.23 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:31 PM EDT

@ Alan, Act2, Bob #s, JAS1, can you tell me ONE thing the Obama administration has done that the Rethugluicans have not tried to block or impede since he came into office? This President gets sh!t done when not having to fight his way through a GOP/TP goal line defense. For instance, The OBL mission, He simply did not include the GOP/TP in the planning or action. I believe this was a matter of trust. If high ranking Repubs knew about the op it would have been leaked by them giving bin laden time to hide.

  • 4 votes
#1.24 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 3:05 PM EDT

can you tell me ONE thing the Obama administration has done that the Rethugluicans have not tried to block or impede since he came into office?

Maintain the Bush tax rates. DADT. START Treaty. It was only a few posts ago that the lame-duck achievements were being touted. BTW that was THREE things not one.

However, he also passed a stimulus that is being debated whether it worked or not. However, when you borrow and spend 800B I think the expectations are higher but that's an opinion. He passed HCR which a majority still would like to see repealed or reformed.

www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/repeal_of_health_care_law_favoroppose-1947.html

So he can run on his record but the picture is mixed.

  • 2 votes
#1.25 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 3:18 PM EDT

Right Bob,

Throwing darts at a yes/no target would give Obama a higher success rating than he has now.

His problem is two-fold, he is stupid, and he is arrogant at the same time. I don't know if he has suffered a head injury or if he is just naturally stupid, but we cannot afford his idiocy any longer. He will drag down many Democratic congressmen and women with him. (Guilt by association)

Watch the circus as his own party members try to distance themselves from him.

No, please Mr "President", I really don't want your endorsement. Really.

(They would like to stay in office too, as the alternative is going out and actually having to work and prduce something. )

  • 2 votes
#1.26 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 3:28 PM EDT
Reply

What will be the new slogan this time? Can't really run on change, since he's the incumbent.

Although we all do so badly want the economy to do that very thing - change.

  • 10 votes
Reply#2 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 12:50 PM EDT

Obama’s campaign strategy:

“Not only are we going to Brazil, America’s Socialists, we're going to Venezuela and Libya and Egypt and Somalia and Kenya, and we're going to Ireland and Palestine and Syria... And we're going to Yemen and Nigeria and Philippines and Niger, and then we're going to Washington, D.C., to destroy America! Yaaaaw!!!”

  • 9 votes
#2.1 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:03 PM EDT

Spanky, I don't know the slogan, maybe "getting better every day", cause that is in fact what's happening.

As for the republicans "the party of no" still works, only now we get to add "no medicare".

  • 5 votes
#2.3 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:09 PM EDT

Eric-913730

Thanks for saying the TRUTH.....it eludes teapublicants.

  • 3 votes
#2.4 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:21 PM EDT
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#2.5 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:35 PM EDT

The sad fact is that the one party system that we now enjoy offers no choices. Obama's face is the face of the death of freedom. Another talking head, doing the business of the man behind the curtain, dividing this country through false religious bigotry, and an artificial press, nothing more than the propaganda arm of a shadow regime. Your country has been stolen. Wake up and smell the pop tarts burning. Either way you lose. You either A. go broke, or B. stay above water and slave to stuff the coffers of the ultra rich. Democracy died a long time ago, the thing they once called capitalism is now also sleeping with the fishes. While your television lies to you about the importance of maintaining this capitalism, the rich have your homes and retirements and your kid's education for dinner at restaurants you've never heard of, and would never be allowed in. You think this president ain't in that club? Think harder.

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#2.6 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:41 PM EDT

I'd say it is a good slogan "The Party of No and Thankfully So!" Because without the party of no, this country would be in a lot worse shape than today. Up until the special election of Scott Brown, the dems had the super majority needed to stop and filibuster and vote cloture -- but they couldn't get their act together. The only reason could be that the dems did not back the obama who was president because he was different that obama the campaigner. He will be the biggest disappointment that the American public has ever elected to the presidency -- and that is saying a lot going against Carter.

Getting better every day???? Give me a break. Let's forget high unemployment, food and gas prices. Let's just look at how this country is divided and unless some other dem runs for president, this man will never unite this country like it is needed.

  • 1 vote
#2.7 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:54 PM EDT

Here is what I would like President Obama to say:

"My fellow Americans, it has been my privilege to lead this great nation out of the worse recession we have experienced since the 1930's. Because you did not lose hope, or give up on America as the doubters asked you too, the American automobile industry has rebounded better than we could have expected.

As we rebuild America after a decade of stagnation and increasing income inequality, there are bright spots on the horizon; stem cell research is beginning to yield amazing results in the quest for curing diseases and conditions like paralysis, people who get sick will no longer be dropped by their insurance companies, and, on the foreign policy front, America has regained the respect of the world through our diplomatic efforts. Over ten years after the attack on our country that killed 3,000 Americans, the mastermind behind that attack has finally been tracked down and executed. We are on track in the next four years to recall troops from the Middle East and begin building our alternative energy grid. Stay with me, the best is yet to come."

  • 2 votes
#2.8 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 3:17 PM EDT

Getting better everyday?

Uh, this here is June 6, 2011. Take a look at the stock market, unemployment claims, house starts/sales, the current amount of debt, the fact that he blew through $1trillion in just three months.

Oh and I like the effects of QE 2, and all the rest.

But sure I get it, ignorance is bliss. Just look at what Amy came up with. Amy, you do get that that is simply pathetic, right? Just terrible.

  • 3 votes
#2.9 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 3:27 PM EDT

R.e. Robin Steele comment: I agree with your summary 95% - masterfully done. The 5% I don't agree with is Obama's face being the death of freedom - in my opinion Obama is struggling hard to keep to democratic (small d) values, but is stymied on all fronts by the Party of No, and those Democrats who are bought and paid for by special interests. Obama being "in that club"? - of course, all Presidents are, by definition.

    #2.10 - Tue Jun 7, 2011 1:04 PM EDT
    Reply

    I'm sorry and I really didn't know what I was doing or getting into would be a great start. Then a solid budget and plan to get the nations unemployed back to work. There are an awful lot of unemployment votes to offset in 2012 and I'll just bet they are about tired of the "hope and change" plan......

    • 7 votes
    Reply#3 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 12:52 PM EDT

    Obama has been anti-business from the beginning. He has been systematically ruining the private sector by increasing big government, the only sector that's growing. Even the red buffant wig market has lost a lot of its puff, eh feisty (s/b snarly)? lol how many hair pieces have you lost due to low hanging ceiling fans feisty? Nevermind, that is a subject for later...

    Rising unemployment, more and more famiilies on welfare means more government clerks to process claims and IRS agents to catch cheats (unless of course those cheats are Obama appointees). Yes the plan is to make more Americans dependent on big government, which leads to more socialist voters... etc. etc. Where is Obama's support for the private sector? Sorry, they're not part of the plan!

    • 7 votes
    #3.1 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:20 PM EDT

    miked-332794

    Your entire post is a string of lies. In what way has Obama "increased big government?" What does that even mean? It's just right-wing rhetoric.

    The unemployment rate was at 10.8% at this same point in Ronald Reagan's first term. So before you grab your hanky to cry about the economy, remember that under President Obama, the American automobile industry has rebounded, something Republicans predicted would never happen.

    • 1 vote
    #3.2 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:07 PM EDT

    Just left wing rhetoric and lies -- auto industry rebounded???? Yeah with our money and not all of it being paid back, one company to be foreign owned. What a bunch of hooey. It would have been a lot worse if we hadn't taken some action. What a bunch of hooey. Ford didn't need it 'cause they did it right!!!! Also adding to the equation was the contrived -- yes contrived -- bad brakes, etc. with Toyota.

    If the unemployment rate is down to under 7.2 percent right before election time -- like it was for Reagan -- I'll vote for obama.

    • 1 vote
    #3.3 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 3:08 PM EDT

    Amy B. , I'm sorry but nothing in my statement above was a lie! Except maybe the part about the Redhair wig industry possibly doing well thanks to feisty's contributions. There are many examples where Obama has abandoned the business of the private sector diffuring instead to the creation of a bigger stronger government (a definition of a socialist agenda!) Here is more proof that he has a long term plan that many Americans truly don't want! This is so obvious to eveyone in the country except for the bloggers at this site!

    Stimulus and bailouts. Where did all that money go?

    It went to Democrat contributors, organizations (ACORN), and unions -- including billions of dollars to save or create jobs of government employees across the country.

    It went to save GM and Chrysler so that their employees could

    keep paying union dues.

    It went to AIG so that Goldman Sachs could be bailed out

    (after giving Obama almost $1 million in contributions).

    A staggering $125 billion went to teachers (thereby protecting their union dues).

    All those public employees will vote loyally Democrat to protect their

    bloated salaries and pensions that are bankrupting America .

    The country goes broke, future generations face a bleak future, but Obama, the Democrat Party, government, and the unions grow more powerful.

    The ends justify the means.

    Raise taxes on small business owners, high-income earners, and job

    creators. Put the entire burden on only the top 20 percent of taxpayers,

    redistribute the income, punish success, and reward those who did

    nothing to deserve it (except vote for Obama).

    Reagan wanted to dramatically cut taxes in order to starve the government. Barack Obama wants to dramatically raise taxes to starve his political opposition.. With the few acts outlined above, Barack Hussien Obama and his tax 'avoiding' advisors have created a vast and rapidly expanding constituency of voters dependent on big government; a vast privileged class of public employees who work for big government; and a government dedicated to destroying capitalism and installing themselves as socialist rulers by overwhelming the system..

    • 2 votes
    #3.4 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 3:32 PM EDT

    miked-332794

    Republicans like you were attacking President Obama before he was even inaugurated!

    All the criticisms you are throwing at him are concocted in your little head, and have nothing to do with the policies of this administration.

    1) "Obama has abandoned the business of the private sector" What the heck are you talking about? President Obama continued the bailouts while holding executives accountable. Chrysler wasn't taken over by the government, it was bailed out and has since repaid much of that money and ahead of schedule.

    2)"Stimulus and bailouts. Where did all that money go" It went to keep teachers and firefighters employed, it built structures and repaired roads, it helped develop alternative energy, it kept our institutions from collapsing.

    3) "bloated salaries and pensions that are bankrupting America" You really hate teachers, firefighters, and other working people, don't you? The average teacher in Maine retires on $19,000 and is not allowed to draw Social Security. What world do you live in where public servants are bankrupting America?

    4) "a government dedicated to destroying capitalism" what part of HE SAVED THE AMERICAN AUTOMOBILE INDUSTRY do you not get?

    • 2 votes
    #3.5 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 3:58 PM EDT
    Reply

    I don't think there are any words he hasn't said.

    • 4 votes
    Reply#4 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 12:55 PM EDT

    Obama can't tell the truth. That won't help him.

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    #4.1 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:09 PM EDT

    His "WTF" = my "BOHICA"

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    #4.2 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:17 PM EDT

    0bama needs to say the same words that LBJ said in 1968. "I do not believe that I should devote an hour or a day of my time to any personal partisan causes or to any duties other than the awesome duties of this office--the Presidency of your country. Accordingly, I shall not seek, and I will not accept, the nomination of my party for another term as your President."

    • 7 votes
    #4.3 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:34 PM EDT

    There's only two words he can say anymore that I want to hear and that would be "I resign"

    • 4 votes
    #4.4 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:59 PM EDT

    JoAnnaSmith1 - You don't even know what the truth is. LOL!!! The president will be re-elected because the Republicans have nothing to offer but more hurt for the middle class. They don't have a jobs bill and they only want to continue to lower taxes for the rich and for corporations. Well if lower taxes were the answer to job growth, we'd have jobs up the wazoo. We've have tax cuts for almost ten years now and we've been losing jobs. Why would we continue to do something we know isn't working. This economy needs more stimulus not more tax cuts for the rich.

    • 2 votes
    #4.5 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:06 PM EDT

    Laurie, I would tend to agree with you if you hadn't typed anything. Obama is the leader of a liberal machine which has pushed process out of government. Just look at the harm caused business by the EPA, these are his people. The health care plan. If I had employees, I would get the hell out of Dodge. And speaking of Dodge...Sad thing is you are half right. Because there is no difference between the parties. They are herding this country into their packing plant. -Most of which are in Illinois. What else can we think of that comes from Illinois?

    • 2 votes
    #4.6 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:48 PM EDT

    Albert Einstein once said "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results". This is exactly what the GOP/TP mentality is doing. INSANITY.

    • 3 votes
    #4.7 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 3:16 PM EDT

    If you don't have the right business climate, all the tax cuts in the world will not make a difference. Since 2006 the dems have pretty much controlled the entire show and that has scared the daylights out of businesses and corporations. Go ahead and tax the evil corporations who make record profits. They will take their ball and go to another country to set-up shop. When you make record profits working under these conditions with less people, then why change? They don't have to. Add more expenses to their bottom lines and make them less price competitive. That'll help jobs. Go ahead and push these evil corporations out of business and hurt the millions and millions of seniors and middle class of America who have them in their retirement, pension and IRA portfolios. Crush them. Destroy them. Evaporate the retirement of tens of millions.

    • 2 votes
    #4.8 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 3:17 PM EDT

    Batman - 0bama is trying to follow FDR - so far he is doing a great job. He is using Keynesian economics to lengthen the number of years of the depression that we are in.

    • 1 vote
    #4.9 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 3:22 PM EDT
    Reply

    What does Obama have to say..........2 words "I QUIT".....sweetest words I would ever hear.

    • 12 votes
    Reply#5 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 12:55 PM EDT

    bwahahaha wish I would've seen this before I posted the same thing!

      #5.1 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:00 PM EDT

      right,

      you'd rather hear:

      He who warned, uh, the … the British that they weren’t gonna be takin’ away our arms, uh, by ringin’ those bells and, um, by makin’ sure that as he’s ridin’ his horse through town to send those warnin’ shots and bells that, uh, we were gonna be secure and we were gonna be free … and we were gonna be armed.

      • 2 votes
      #5.2 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 4:57 PM EDT

      I'd want to hear that even less Amy I'm smart enough to change the channel when the female mouth breather comes on.

        #5.3 - Tue Jun 7, 2011 8:04 AM EDT
        Reply

        Hey, let's spread the wealth around! Wait wait that didn't work!

        Oh, maybe I'll golf even more in my next term! How about - gas will be $5 all my four years!

        And Michy will go to Spain twice ea year and the taxpayer picks up the bill again!

        • 8 votes
        Reply#6 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 12:56 PM EDT

        Whatever his campaign slogan may or may not be. All he has to do is let the American people/voters know what we stand to get under his Administration's vision versus that of the Republicans, Teabaggers and so-called social conversatives. The contrast is striking and divergent enough that the people who care about the direction of our country and politics will not want to buy-in to the Republicans radical right-wing social engineering.

        • 6 votes
        Reply#7 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 12:56 PM EDT

        Tea bagger? Well, I guess I'm that lewd name you classy guy, Dougy!

        What kind of mental issues you must have, man. Can I insure your family?

        Can I pay for your unemployment by having your president raise my taxes?

        Complete utter buffoon.

        • 9 votes
        #7.1 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:05 PM EDT

        John,

        My family and myself can take care of your entire clan of misfits. We are neither unemployed or uninsured.

        So get a effing clue you pompous Ahole!!!!

        Which is it? Democrats represent the elists, the unemployed, the uninsured???

        P.S. I don't mind giving someone else a hand-up if their plight is less fortunate then mine!!!

        • 5 votes
        #7.2 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:15 PM EDT

        John - don't believe Doug - I am sure he lives in a govt. provided Double-Wide trailer that we are paying for.

        • 2 votes
        #7.3 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:42 PM EDT

        If you want to know what the Tea Party will do if they get in the White House, just look at the legislative agenda in states where they have won majorities in 2010:

        Repealling environmental laws, consumer protection laws and child labor laws. Busting unions, restricting abortions, passing voter regislation laws to make it more difficult to vote, etc.

        How does anything on the right-wing agenda address job creation? Every right-wing governor talks about making his state more "business-friendly" by lowering their taxes, relaxing regulation and providing cheaper labor. Looks like the right-wing vision for America is to turn us into Mexico.

        • 1 vote
        #7.4 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:52 PM EDT
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        By 2012, he will have to say a lot more than we've turned the corner on the economy cause that's just not going to fly. After 4 full years in office, the voters have a right to expect a significant improvement in the economic indicators especially manufacturing and GNP growth, unemployment numbers at least back in the 7's where they were when he came into office, a stable housing market and foreclosure rates diminished. You can blame the problems he inherited on others but after 4 years you need to show results. The American people are impatient and I don't know how long their patience is going to last.

        • 14 votes
        Reply#8 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 12:58 PM EDT

        @Groucho -- You are correct and it can't be the "well if we hadn't did this it would have been a lot worse" comeback. If the dog hadn't stopped to take a crap, he'd caught the rabbit -- and that dog don't hunt.

        • 11 votes
        #8.1 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:05 PM EDT

        Ah, but see Groucho we are seeing that the patience has evaporated, and for all the reasons you listed. Not to mention the flip side - he lied about so much.

        About the wars, Gitmo, transparency, etc.

        He just didn't have a clue, which is exactly what you'd expect with his experience level and background.

        • 9 votes
        #8.2 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:11 PM EDT

        I am amazed that the pundits are talking like tomorrow is November 2012. We are light-years away from the next election. More than once I though Obama was in trouble and more than once did he prove me wrong.

        There are two issues here that have not yet been defined. Who the Republican nominee will be. 2) The state of the economy. What is known is that Americans do not want Republicans messing with Medicare. If the Republicans ignore that message; the two above unknown will not matter...And Obama will win.

        • 6 votes
        #8.3 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:19 PM EDT

        So the Republican plan should be? Medicare----Do nothing and get re-elected.... We really need commonsense politicians in 2012. LET'S VOTE FOR CHANGE IN 2012!

        • 3 votes
        #8.4 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:29 PM EDT

        Ron Indiana

        I hope Democrats make Medicare an issue. They already raided Medicare for 500 million to cover Obamacare, just speeding up it's demise. Looks to me like at least the Republican plan thinks current seniors deserve to keep Medicare the same...

        • 3 votes
        #8.5 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:45 PM EDT

        Ron Indiana - One of the "pundits" as you call them is President Obama himself when he kicked off his campaign last month and even before anyone even opposed him?????...We are also even more light years away from Obama's election day in 2008.....and the Republicans have since creamed the DEMS on 11/2/10......just 7 very short months ago.......11/6/12 is a lot closer than you think!.......Just ask Obama!

        • 2 votes
        #8.6 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:45 PM EDT

        Ron - it doesn't matter who the Repub nominee is - almost any of them in the race already would be a better choice than 0bama. There are lots of people like me who will vote for whatever candidate that is not name 0bama - hope and change and blaming it on Bush doesn't work anymore. Neither does the race card - it has expired and isn't taken anymore. I wish the Dems would punt this guy and get Hillary to run so that we would have 2 candidates that are easily more qualified than this buffoon that is running for re-election.

        • 6 votes
        #8.7 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:46 PM EDT

        black belt...I wish I could vote two times for your comment!

        • 1 vote
        #8.8 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:34 PM EDT

        groucho-part of the problem was that too many of "we-the-people" bought the crap the Repubs were cooking and serving in 2010. Now we are stuck with the do-nothing Republican majority in the House that will see to it that we don't get the kind of tax increases so necessary to at least start on the deficit and prevent the enactment of further stimulus spending which all knowledgeable economists say is essential to further recovery.

          #8.9 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:37 PM EDT

          You can find economists that will say anything. Ask any of them and they will have an opinion - Opinions are like a-holes - we all have one. Just as many economists say that raising taxes will completely kill the economy. I know when taxes go up on something - I stop buying it (think cigs and alcohol) I am not hiring anymore people until 0bama is gone - can't take a chance with the business going belly up. I am one of the small biz people that 0bama needs but he has done nothing but increase my costs since coming into office. I will do with what we have until he is gone - and I sure hope its in 2012 - otherwise I might retire early and sit back like half the people are already doing.

          • 1 vote
          #8.10 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 3:20 PM EDT

          Agreed, since he's already said that.

            #8.11 - Tue Jun 7, 2011 11:05 PM EDT
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            President Obama needs to stop talking, put away the teleprompters roll up his sleeves where nobody can see him and spend more time in the Oval Office than on Air Force One and just simply get to work on solutions that are effective and that do not result in sliding our economy backwards and just stop blaming Bush for 4 years on 11/6/12 when it comes time for his upcoming "report card" from the America People!

            • 4 votes
            Reply#9 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:07 PM EDT

            President Obama will have to do little to get re-elected. As a predominantly Republican voter, I have little interest in the @ss clowns that are coming down the pipe for the party. There is not an "electable" candidate amongst them.

            • 9 votes
            Reply#10 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:08 PM EDT

            Steve-2057180

            President Obama will have to do little to get re-elected. As a predominantly Republican voter, I have little interest in the @ss clowns that are coming down the pipe for the party. There is not an "electable" candidate amongst them.

            ..........................................................................

            Just remember George W got a second term. He was, as far a I was concerned, totally unqualified and unelectable. Ta da, 4 more years.

            • 9 votes
            #10.1 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:10 PM EDT

            great example Groucho.

            Just close your eyes and think back to your financial position, and the position of the economy in '04.

            Better off then, or now? No comparison.

            • 6 votes
            #10.2 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:13 PM EDT

            Always skeptic of a person who has to point out the political party he/she belongs to then bashes that party with vulgar names. Makes one wonder. If he has to do little, then why raise a billion dollars for a campaign that is a "lock." Seems to be squandering peoples' money. Why would Howard Dean say he can be beaten??? I know a ploy to add confidence to the Republican hopefuls. LOL!

            • 5 votes
            #10.3 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:15 PM EDT

            Steve - Didn't you say something like that on 11/2/10 whent he DEMS were handed their WORST defeat in 60+ years and just 7 very short months ago?

            • 6 votes
            #10.4 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:22 PM EDT

            Spanky-

            Just close your eyes and think back to your financial position, and the position of the economy in '04.

            Better off then, or now? No comparison.

            ..............................................................

            Now close your eyes and remember 2007 and 2008. Better off than then...yep...and so is my retirement plan.

            • 6 votes
            #10.5 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:42 PM EDT

            ThanX, Groucho.

            You took the high road and shut the Spankster up with one short factoid.

            Don't worry he'll be back in a sec with more rhetorical interrogatories.

            Lots of questions but no answers. He thinks of himself as smarter than the average American when in actuallity he is quite dull and redundant. One track mind is his modus operandi; repeat the most egregious lies until they are believed.

            You know the type I'm sure. They never got the listening gene. (half + of communiucation, BTW) No compromise gene either. Maybe gene therapy would help...Naw.

            I remember Goldwater too. I was in 6th grade when he ran. VERY different national landscape today. Politically AND demographically.

            • 3 votes
            #10.6 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:08 PM EDT

            What does it say about the Republican Party that a bunch of clowns are running for the nomination? And that the most popular candidates are also the most insane? Remember when Donald Trump had the highest approval rating in the pack? Honestly, where are the Republicans voters who once supported the likes of Gerald Ford? Turned into Democrats, apparently.

            • 1 vote
            #10.7 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:59 PM EDT
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            Steve - Just keep on insulting and name-calling.....and especially....keep on dreaming.............psssst........it's still not working for ya!

            • 4 votes
            Reply#11 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:16 PM EDT

            Yea, we will just have to see. The last time around they wheeled out the old man and the lady who thinks that dinosaurs and man were around at the same time.

            • 1 vote
            #11.1 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:40 PM EDT

            Steve - Once again....brilliant comment.......but just what does it mean?

              #11.2 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:48 PM EDT

              It means that the Republican party that I used to support has lost its way and hasn't presented an alternative that is palatable to the middle (where elections are won and lost). Clear enough?

              • 2 votes
              #11.3 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:10 PM EDT
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              All the President has to say to me is "let's finish what we started". Hopefully with more support from Congress---in both parties. That will get my vote for President Obama in 2012. We do have a long way to go but there isn't anyone else I would trust with the job--the President continues to have my complete confidence.

              • 7 votes
              Reply#12 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:17 PM EDT

              Steeler Fan:

              Well said! Perhaps that should be his campaign slogan.

              • 7 votes
              #12.1 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:22 PM EDT

              People do not want anymore from 0bama. They want him gone. He had huge majorities in House and Senate and they could do anything they wanted - they did and pissed people off so much that in 2010 it was the biggest change in history from supporting one party to another. Dems are lucky they didn't lose Senate. The Senate goes to GOP in 2010 and the GOP picks up 20 + seats. People do not want us to be a Euro-socialist country. The lefists have lost big in Spain, Portugal and Canada this year. That will continue happening and its bye, bye 0bama in Nov 2012 519 long days from now.

              • 1 vote
              #12.2 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:10 PM EDT

              No People don't want more Right wing greed and lies black belt

              • 3 votes
              #12.3 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 3:42 PM EDT
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              All he has to do is dust off Reagan's speeches from 1984, because America had no problem reelecting him when unemployment was more than 10% during his first term, and interest rates in the double digits...older folks, remember 16% mortgage rates in the early 80s thanks to the Reagan's defecit spending? Of course, he gets a pass because he was the First Actor president.

              • 5 votes
              Reply#13 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:29 PM EDT

              Pat, don't go there.

              by this point in his first term, the Reagan policies were succeeding and the historic economic recovery was well along...while today, the evidence is in: Obama policies are a massive failure.

              • 2 votes
              #13.1 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:47 PM EDT

              Yeah, although I kind of remember another president starting us down that road by making some really bad decisions. Carter was a smart guy, buy pretty clueless in reality.

              • 2 votes
              #13.2 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:49 PM EDT

              You mean the policies where he cut taxes then raised them and went hog wild spending us into record debt?

                #13.3 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:26 PM EDT

                Bob-1887910

                by this point in his first term, the Reagan policies were succeeding...unemployment was at 10.8% at this point in Reagan's first term AND he did not come into office inheriting two wars, a housing crisis and Wall Street melt down.

                • 1 vote
                #13.4 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 4:50 PM EDT
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                What he has to say is the truth. The truth about how unqualified he is, the truth about his radicalism, the truth he has no clue what he and his cabinet are doing and admit that they have screwed up the recovery process, admit we would have been better off had he not done anything, say he is anti-business, anti free market and anti-capitalism. Say that he is pro-union, pro-welfare and hand-outs, pro-illegal aliens, pro-arab and pro-muslim. Ah, how refreshing to speak the truth.

                • 2 votes
                Reply#14 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:32 PM EDT

                If only you would take your own advice. Your comment is not truthful...it is inflammatory rhetoric. Disappointing.

                • 1 vote
                #14.1 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:45 PM EDT

                Well, Colorado, what is untruthful about it? Maybe the air up there in the rockies is a little too thin for ya and you're not quite able to grasp the truth...drinking the Obama flavored Kool Aid doesn;t really help that at all. "Dissapointing"? Why would that be dissapointing..we don't know each other...we have no expectations either way so how could anything I or anyone else say be dissapointing? If this is really dissapointing, then you're taking all of this BS way, way too serious.

                  #14.2 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 3:23 PM EDT

                  Jim in Dallas

                  he is anti-business, anti free market and anti-capitalism

                  What part of he saved the American Automobile industry when Republicans wanted to let it go bankrupt do you not get?

                  Radical? I think the right-wingers currently busting unions, trying to dismantle Medicare and reneging on teacher retirements are pretty radical.

                  • 2 votes
                  #14.3 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 4:55 PM EDT
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                  Let the GOP Dwarfs battle it out. Once they start turning on each other, which is inevitable, there will be nothing left because they all lack any substance or credibility.

                  If the best alternative to Obama that they can offer is to cut my Medicare and Social Security in order to increase tax breaks for the wealthy and create more corporate tax loopholes, then they have lost the election already.

                  If everyone voted, the GOP would not even exist at this point. Obama increased the electorate by 18% last time. If he does that again, the GOP may not even exist in the future...

                  • 7 votes
                  Reply#15 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:34 PM EDT

                  MkeMike--great points. I might feel differently if the Republicans had shown any cooperation over the past 3 years but they have done nothing but obstruct everything the Democrats wanted to do. So if the recovery hasn't been as fast as we'd all like, the Republicans and some Democrats in Congress had a hand in that. They have never offered positive alternatives.

                  • 5 votes
                  #15.1 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:44 PM EDT

                  Steeler,

                  So true. In fact, the size of the Economic Recovery Act was scaled back because of the GOP opposition, and it still worked. One month's lighness on job creation does not make or break an economic recovery. The GOP has done nothing but try to make this President fail since Inaugeration Day. And they've admitted it outright. So, they earn nothing. In fact, they are traitors and need to be treated as such. If they had taken care of things when they had the Presidency, McCain or any other of them would have easily been elected. But they did not...

                  Now, they put forward a program that seriously damages the futures of 80% of Americans. I've worked hard and paid taxes for 40 years now to get to a point where I've earned Medicare should I get sick, and Social Security in my coming retirement, and if they think that they can take that away and hand me an insufficient voucher, so that they can give tax breaks to millionaires, they are wrong.

                  As people sit up and take notice and realize that the GOP wants to gut safety net social programs in favor of corporate largesse and rewards for the super rich, they will turn out to vote. Don't mess with our livelihoods. Tax the wealthy more, they benefitted the most, they should pay the most. End the Bush wars, gut the defense department. Do all those things, way before you cut benefits that we've counted on being there. People come first...that's what kind of a society we need to be and always were, before these current GOP clowns took over...why do we need to balance the deficits and pay off the debt on the backs of the middle class and poor, when it's been the wealthy and corporations that paid to legislate us into this mess???

                  • 5 votes
                  #15.2 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:04 PM EDT

                  So Mike you're in favor of a one party system? Maybe you'd to vote Obama in for life too.

                    #15.3 - Tue Jun 7, 2011 1:00 PM EDT
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                    I think it is interesting that those who say "keep government out of our lives" are the same who are critical of Obama and expect him to "do something". 

                    Is it just a coincidence that the economy went down (& debt went up) during Bush and is now going down again with the Republicans in charge of the House?  Why aren't the Republicans "to blame"? 

                    The truth is that it is much more complicated then those who want to blame Obama will admit.

                    The unemployment rose during Reagan's first term, too.  Who was blamed for that? 

                    • 2 votes
                    Reply#16 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:41 PM EDT

                    0bama has gotten in the way of job creation - Reagan was getting govt out of the way for job creation - big difference. You also should remember that Reagan won 49 states going into his 2nd term and was immensely popular and a patriot. 0bama is neither popular or a patriot.

                    • 2 votes
                    #16.1 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:57 PM EDT

                    Black_belt 3 must have not read any of the latest polls. The President has a better approval rate of the Republican led Congress.

                    • 2 votes
                    #16.2 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:45 PM EDT

                    Doug - Bush had a better rating than Congress did as well - what is your point? Every POTUS is more popular than Congress. I do know that Nancy Piglosi is the lowest ranked Congress person - how does that make you feel? It makes me feel great that the Dems are going into the 2012 elections with the same "??leadership?? team in place that got "shellacked" in 2010. And you have added Debbie Blabbermouth Schultz to that team - she makes Michele Bachman look like Einstein. BTW - the Repubs only control the House until Nov 2012 when we take the Senate as well. Guess it was a slip since you know it is coming.

                    • 2 votes
                    #16.3 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 3:04 PM EDT
                    Reply

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                      Reply#17 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:41 PM EDT

                      Ron Indiana - We are also even more light years away from Obama's election day in 2008.....and the Republicans have since creamed the DEMS on 11/2/10......just 7 very short months ago.......11/6/12 is a lot closer than you think!

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#18 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:42 PM EDT

                      Hardly anybody turns out in a off year election...

                      Look back at 2008. Look at an electoral map. Look at the electoral vote count. Now, tell me what states you think Obama will lose that he won in 2008? I can't see any...

                      Even if I gave you Florida, Nevada, Virginia, and North Carolina, Colorado, New Mexico, and threw in Ohio just to be a nice guy, you'd still lose. And most of those states have huge numbers of Medicare and Social Security recipients that you've just pissed off.

                      I think that what the GOP better worry about is holding Texas, because if they lose that state, they may have trouble getting to 100 in any future election as well. Change your tune boys........

                      • 3 votes
                      #18.1 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:17 PM EDT
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                      By October 2012, when the polls will make it clear that Republicans will take control of both the House and Senate, Obama will say he will be the only check on a GOP takeover.

                      That is the only thing Obama can say, that the voters may listen to.

                      • 3 votes
                      Reply#19 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:44 PM EDT

                      You may be correct Bob - but by then people will be sick of paying higher insurance premiums and the GOP candidate can easily say that if you keep 0bama as POTUS we will not be able to repeal 0bamacare! 0bama has so many negatives and so few positives to run on that people just want the candidate that is not 0bama. 0bama wins 13 Blue states and DC - the rest go to the GOP candidate and the Senate switches parties. The real question is do the Repubs get 60 seats in the Senate. What is funny is Piglosi saying that the house is in play. She is the most unpopular person in Congress according to polls.

                      • 2 votes
                      #19.1 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:54 PM EDT
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                      Do u just sit around and wait for new articles to pop up so u can be the first to comment?? Just weird to see someone have so much free time on their hands

                      • 3 votes
                      Reply#20 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:45 PM EDT

                      thats what being on government assistance will do for you

                      • 3 votes
                      #20.1 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:17 PM EDT

                      Sitting on the couch in the double-wide looking out the window - waiting for the check to arrive in the mail. That is your typical 0bama supporter.

                      • 1 vote
                      #20.2 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:22 PM EDT
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                       What the hell are the Republicans going to run on in 2012? All the jobs they created after taking back the House? How they came up with a plan to eliminate Medicare and give the rich another tax cut? They haven't done a damn thing other than obstruct and aggrevate the President, they want unemployment high, they want wages low, and they want the rich to get richer at the expense of the middle class and working poor. Doesn't sound like a winning platform to me.

                        Reply#21 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:22 PM EDT

                        The Repubs have it easy on what to run on - the House has passed many bills and sent them to the Dem Senate to die. Reid rarely bring the bills to the floor and he keeps making the Dems look like they are the obstructionists these days. That is the case. Eledtions have consequences and the Dems don't want to admit they got "shellacked" in 2010 and are trying to act like they still own and run everything. That isn't the case and the Repubs are doing a great job of showing who is doing nothing - the Dems!!. It has been over 750 days since the Dems passed a budget - something they are supposed to do every year. You have got 75% of the people saying we are on the wrong track and the American people know the Dems are still in charge of 2 of the 3 chambers of power. Gas prices and home prices where they are do not look good for the Dems. Where is the laser like focus on jobs, jobs, jobs that 0bama always promises.

                        • 1 vote
                        #21.1 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:37 PM EDT
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                        What does Obama need to say? How bout.."I've really f##ked up!" But what you will hear him say is more fundamental change, more redistribution of wealth, more pro-union crap, more green energy B.S., more support of the peaceful Muslim Brotherhood, more Obama Care, more taxes.

                        • 2 votes
                        Reply#22 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:25 PM EDT

                        0bama needs to say the same words that LBJ said in 1968. "I do not believe that I should devote an hour or a day of my time to any personal partisan causes or to any duties other than the awesome duties of this office--the Presidency of your country. Accordingly, I shall not seek, and I will not accept, the nomination of my party for another term as your President."

                        • 2 votes
                        #22.1 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:29 PM EDT

                        Black. The republicans have no chance with the Ryan budget hanging around their neck.

                          #22.2 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:35 PM EDT

                          Pat - the Dems don't have a message or a budget. It has been over 750 days since the Dems passed a budget. The Ryan budget is being explained and people want budget cuts not 0bama spending. Private business is not going to hire people and bail 0bama out because they don't know what 0bama is going to do. American citizens sent a strong message last Nov 2, 2010 and the Dems didn't hear it. They will hear it again in 519 long days. Look what happened in Canada, Portugal & Spain - the lefties lost and the conservatives won and that is in less than 6 months this year. The pendulum is swinging against the socialists and 0bama.

                          • 1 vote
                          #22.3 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:43 PM EDT

                          In the past 20 years this country has experienced the biggest "redistribution of wealth" in history, from the poor and middle class to the rich anyway, why is that ok but when people want to redistribute it the other direction it's bad? Obama hasn't raised taxes, but we'll keep that little secret between you an me. If you have to work for a living "pro union crap" ain't such a bad thing, Obama Care does suck I will agree with you on that one, because the insurance industry lobbyist own the Senate and had them remove all the competition from the bill, Obama shouldn't have signed it. You need to reduce your intake of fox news and do some research on your own.

                          • 2 votes
                          #22.4 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:46 PM EDT

                          W - In the past 20 years you have had an almost even distribution of 10 years of Repub and 10 years of Democrat in the WH with the Dems with a slight 5 month advantage. The Dems have had more years in charge of the House and Senate during that time (I don't know the exact numbers off the top of my head) Even without formally raising taxes 0bama has managed to cost my small biz more money that I don't get to keep or pay more employees. He has been horrible for private industry and is now looking to us to bail him out. There is no way I am hiring or filling open positions until he is gone. Can't trust him or what will happen with 0bamacare. I feel confident 0bamacare will be ruled unconstitutional but am not willing to bet my business on it.

                          • 1 vote
                          #22.5 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:55 PM EDT
                          Reply

                          What ever the MSM suggests, he ought to do the opposite.

                          • 3 votes
                          Reply#23 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:32 PM EDT

                          I agree if the MSM recommends it that 0bama or any POTUS should do the opposite!

                          • 1 vote
                          #23.1 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:44 PM EDT
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                          Has anyone notice the number hypocrites who scream about the "liberal media" or "lame stream media" come to the very place they are screaming about to espouse their BS. Not realizing that they are providing advertising and marketing revenue dollars to MSNBC everytime the log onto the blogs and comment. These are the same idiots who fall lock-step into all the Republican pandering & demagoguery. Talk about truly dumbing down of America. Ladies and gentlemen I give you the Republican base. I can just about guarantee that you would not see any free thinking Democrat, Independent and Republican hanging out on the blogs of Cluster Faux News.

                          • 2 votes
                          Reply#24 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:33 PM EDT

                          Douglas. The reason they come here is obvious. MSNBC is at best, right of center. But they are so far right anything short of blind obedience to the conservative/republican view of things is subversive.

                          • 3 votes
                          #24.1 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:44 PM EDT

                          There are plenty of liberals on the Faux News blogs - so many that when you post you are likely to be on the next page by the time you refresh your screen to see if anyone has commented on your post. MessNBC is no where near right of center - they are left of center tho not nearly as far left as 0bama and Piglosi.

                          • 1 vote
                          #24.2 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:47 PM EDT

                          Piglosi? Idiot.

                          • 1 vote
                          #24.3 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 3:02 PM EDT
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                          Buyer's Remorse at it's best!!!!

                          Wisconsin Recall Movement Turns To Gov. Scott Walker

                          Now that six Republican State Senators are facing a recall election this summer, Wisconsin Democrats have begun focusing on an effort to recall embattled Gov. Scott Walker in early 2012.

                          That was the consensus among Democrats that gathered in Milwaukee over the weekend for the state party’s annual convention.“Scott Walker must be stopped,” said Mike Tate, chairman of the Wisconsin Democratic Party. “It will be the Democratic party that does it.”

                          Since becoming Wisconsin’s governor in Jan. 2011, Walker has pushed and promoted an arch-conservative agenda that targets organized labor and has drastically cut funding for public education. Meanwhile, Walker has cut business taxes by about $67 million over two years. In six months, Walker will have served long enough to become eligible for recall. Already, a group has formed to promote the recall of Gov. Walker by asking Wisconsin voters to sign a pledge. About 190,000 voters have signed a petition, party officials said.

                          Six Republicans have been cleared for a runoff election in recent weeks. The recall will include Sens. Alberta Darling of River Hills; Robert Cowles of Green Bay; Sheila Harsdorf of River Falls; Randy Hopper of Fon du Lac; Dan Kapanke of La Crosse, and Luther Olsen of Ripon. The recall election is set for July 12 but if multiple candidates get on the ballot, the July election would become a primary -- clearing the way for an August 9 general election. The outcome of those elections may well turn the tide of political power in the Badger state. Republicans currently control the state's upper chamber 19 to 14.

                          • 3 votes
                          Reply#25 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:50 PM EDT

                          There are at least 3 Dems who are up for recall as well - why do you forget to mention them?

                          • 1 vote
                          #25.1 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 3:11 PM EDT

                          The Wisconsin state election board hasn't certified the signatures on the Democrats yet, inicating a recall. In fact, many of the signatures obtained by Republicans appeared to be fraudulent or obtained fraudulently, so it's taking more time.

                          None of the Democrats appears to be in a dangeroud position of losing, while three Republicans, and possibly a fourth, appear very vulnerable to a recall election. Hopper and Kapanke have voters supporting their recall by 57% in favor of recall to 41% opposed. That was before Kapanke insulted voters in his district by hoping that they'd "sleep in", during the recall. Hopper has taken a mistress in a city outside of his district and, according to his wife, doesn't live at home anymore. Cowles, Olsen, and Darling are all vulnerable as well. Darling won last time by less than 1,000 votes and has 30,000 signatures for recall against her already. A shift of three seats puts the Dems back in control.

                          Walker will be in the crosshairs next...or surveyor's mark...whatever you call that X over their face....

                            #25.2 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 3:53 PM EDT

                            Recalling Walker would be so sweet.

                            Maine's Teapublican governor has less than 40% approval five months after his inauguration. His is the same union busting, tax cuts for the wealthiest, corporations are my GOd now agenda as Walker.

                              #25.3 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 5:10 PM EDT
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