Wisconsin recalls slowly moving forward

While petitioners collected signatures to recall Wisconsin state senators at a furious pace in April and early May, two actions on opposite sides of the aisle are now threatening to bring the process to a grinding bureaucratic halt.

In a motion filed Wednesday, the Wisconsin Government Accountability Board asked a Dane County Circuit Court judge to give them more time to evaluate the three recall petitions -- targeting Democratic state senators -- the board has yet to rule on. Separately, on Tuesday, lawyers representing Republican Sens. Randy Hopper (Fond du Lac), Dan Kapanke (La Crosse) and Luther Olsen (Ripon) filed suit in the same court  to stop the recalls against them.

After approving six recall elections -- all against GOP state senators -- and tentatively scheduling them for July 12, the board has put the recall process on hold, pending a Friday court hearing where the non-partisan body will ask a Dane County judge for more time to consider the final three petitions.

The accountability board's motion asks Judge John Markson to push Friday's deadline back one week, so the board can "properly consider" the petitions filed against Democratic Sens. Dave Hansen (Green Bay), Jim Holperin (Conover) and Bob Wirch (Pleasant Prairie). The board has struggled to process the "unprecedented workload" in the initial time allotted, because Democratic representatives for Hansen, Holperin and Wirch have more frequently challenged the validity of signatures collected by petitioners.

Republicans responded with general disgust at the news, asserting that the board is doling out preferential treatment to Democrats.

"These criticisms are understandable, but unwarranted," the Government Accountability Board responded in a statement late Wednesday evening. "The board simply cannot dismiss the rebuttal evidence and numerous correcting affidavits, affecting hundreds of signatures, filed by the Republican petitioners seeking to recall the Democratic senators." 

The board is referring to more than 200 signed affidavits presented by Democrats. The documents purportedly demonstrate systematic fraud within the Republican apparatus that gathered the signatures to recall the three Democratic state senators.

In a news release, the state Democratic Party accused the petition circulators of perpetrating fraud. More specifically, Wisconsin state Democratic officials have told NBC News that Republican petitioners falsely identified themselves as state officials and lied to residents on the Menominee Indian reservation, claiming the petition was to increase Indian voting rights.

Republicans have categorically denied the charges.

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Republicans responded with general disgust at the news, asserting that the board is doling out preferential treatment to Democrats.

This is nothing more than a speed bump on the highway of buyers remorse!

Justice does not always move swiftly but, in the end it prevails!

The good people of WI are not buying what the baggers & birthersl are selling these days!

  • 12 votes
Reply#1 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 3:48 PM EDT

Say Feisty old gal, care to wager on the outcome of all 6 recall elections?

And I wonder if you could identify for us where that "buyers remorse" went during the Prosser election?

Seems like the good voters of Wisconsin disagree with your position. and just think, it was they that foisted Ryan on you libbie freaks. :)

Oh but I'm sure he will definately not ever, under any circumstances be re-elected, is that right?

  • 4 votes
#1.1 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 4:01 PM EDT

You know spanky you are turning into a real troll.

  • 9 votes
#1.2 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 4:06 PM EDT

And- he gets paid by the hour. By 'clients'. Neat, huh?

  • 5 votes
#1.3 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 4:14 PM EDT

And he is so positive.

  • 2 votes
#1.4 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 4:25 PM EDT

Positive he's smarther than the average 'poster'? Smarter than what??

A turnip? Two turnips?? (more is better with Spank, you know...)

  • 4 votes
#1.5 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 4:34 PM EDT

The Prosser election is very easy to explain. In almost any judicial election anywhere in the country that has a man vs. a woman, the male is more likely to win. People's bias is that judges represent law and order, and men represent that more than woman, regardless of the fact that the judges probably hear far more civil rather than criminal appeals. Plus Prosser's name was already long known in Wisconsin. He hadn't overturned the conviction of a mass murderer, nor was he against the death penalty. That it was still a squeaker given this advantage should be no consolation to the GOP. But the sadder fact in Wisconsin is how "segregated" certain parts of the state have become. Waukesha and Fond Du Lac produce GOP majorities not seen even in states like Kansas or Utah. Dane Co. didn't come close to producing similar Democratic majorities. You have to start wondering why Republicans are clumping together.

  • 2 votes
#1.6 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 4:35 PM EDT

Don't you people realize how much easier it is to collect a few thousand signatures for a recall election than it actually is to win one?

Geeez, all they had to do was get all those Union workers who called in "sick" to protest to sign and they were done. See, the Republicans were all at work, a concept foreign to most Democrats, making it a little more difficult to fill out the petitions, so naturally the DNC is fighting the validity of the signatures

  • 3 votes
#1.7 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 4:47 PM EDT

I don't think you're quite right about Dane County, which was only slightly less blue than Waukesha and Washington and Ozaukee counties were red, but in general I take your point. The liberal area of Dane County is really confined mostly to Madison and its immediate suburbs. Some of the southern areas of the county, for example, and probably in the north as well, being much more rural, are pretty conservative. What you may not have noticed is the "blueing" occurring somewhat spontaneously in the Western half of the state, as well as in the very northernmost counties, like Ashland and Bayfield, and in Paul Ryan's district south of Madison, which went heavily for Prosser in the recall election. Why republicans are clumping together, especially in the Milwaukee area, ought to be obvious -- they called it white flight when I was growing up in the county immediately north of Milwaukee, the county that is today the most conservative in the state. It's the land of enchanted disconnect.

  • 2 votes
#1.8 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 4:51 PM EDT

Geeez, all they had to do was get all those Union workers who called in "sick" to protest to sign and they were done.

How smugly ignorant you are, White Collar. The recalls are not occurring in those State Senate districts, which were heavily blue to begin with. I live in one of them. They are mostly outstate, and in normally republican districts, and even the conservative suburbs of Milwaukee, where people affected by Walker's meanness are hopping mad. The petitions that have been accepted so far by and large had MANY, MANY more signatures than were required, and most were returned very early.

As for verifying the signatures, the problem -- seeeee -- is that there were a lot of "irregularities," like signatures of dead people, bribes being given for signatures, and misrepresentations as to what people were actually signing. As for republicans hiring out-of-state workers to circulate their petitions, I could make a snarky comment about out-sourcing jobs being the republican mantra, but the real reason is that they couldn't find anyone who wanted to do their dirty work.

  • 8 votes
#1.9 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 4:59 PM EDT

Me:

and in Paul Ryan's district south of Madison, which went heavily for Prosser in the recall election.

Ooops. I meant that Ryan's district went heavily (about 60/40) for Kloppenburg in the Supreme Court election. Sorry.

  • 1 vote
#1.10 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 5:27 PM EDT

White Collar Auto and Spanky:

You obviously don't understand recalls. Mobilizing citizens is not easy. That's one of the reasons you have always sold "The Community Organizer" short. That is very hard work; hard enough with lockstep Republicans, even harder with that herd of cats - Democrats.

Regardless, these are some motivated people. They are angry. The fact that they were able to have the requisite number of signatures validated in six districts - SIX - so quickly, speaks to efficiency, organization, and anger.

The Republicans in their pathetic counter-strike, have resorted to the very tactics they love to associate with Democrats - paid signature gatherers, with the added kicker of commissions - all kinds of room for the equivalent of voter registration fraud. You know what I mean? You understand that Republican projection thing, right? That's why it's taking longer to verify signatures. In fact, the odds are that the percentage of invalid signatures will be higher on the Republican side.

The Governor and his narrow-minded, control-freak legislators have overplayed their hand.

  • 6 votes
#1.11 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 5:37 PM EDT

Maybe it is "white flight." In my neck of woods, sometime around the Goldwater era, it was moving beyond the city limits to avoid those pesky water taxes. But in the present, the lack of diversity and the lack of community involvement is leading to a rigidity of thinking and an us vs. them view of the world. Not a healthy democracy.

  • 1 vote
#1.12 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 5:37 PM EDT
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"News that Republican petitioners falsely identified themselves as state officials and lied to residents on the Menominee Indian reservation, claiming the petition was to increase Indian voting rights"

Lying to 'Real Americans', how low will the liars go?..Oh, that's what the GOP/TP does, without shame or accountablity. They should all be made to take the 'perp' walk!

  • 10 votes
Reply#2 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 3:54 PM EDT

Yeah, I'm sure those dems protests are totally legit.

Funny how they busted through the huge workload to get only the republican recalls certified, but not the dems.

Yep, that probably won't ensure an even higher republican turnout. When are you libbies going to learn that your silly shenanigans only ever come back and bite you in the ass?

  • 5 votes
#2.1 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 4:04 PM EDT

Lying to 'Real Americans', how low will the liars go?..

There is NO depth to which these b@satrds won't go...

Remember this?

From Think Progress:

WASHINGTON -- In an effort to gather enough signatures to trigger recall elections of state senators in Wisconsin, some backers are turning to peculiar, unconventional and, it appears, even intoxicating means.

The Wisconsin Democratic Party is planning to file a complaint to the state Government Accountability Board alleging that a Republican signature-gatherer offered alcoholic beverages to a group of women to get them to sign a recall petition against a Democratic state senator.

Although that's not illegal in Wisconsin, it is strongly discouraged and, Democrats argue, evidence that Republicans don't really have enough grassroots support for their recall campaigns.

  • 8 votes
#2.2 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 4:06 PM EDT

Howdy Spanky,

Will you admit that the 'silly shenanigans' of the prior administration are bitting this country in the ass at every level!

  • 4 votes
#2.3 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 4:07 PM EDT

Yes, Feisty

I remember the report about buying drinks for signatures in WI!

Sadly, nothing is every done to stop this kind of behavior since the wheels of justice seem to move so slowly, if not just stop at all.

....and the GOP/TP Governors continue their sham on the people by passing voter ID legislation to decrease, they hope, democratic turnout!

  • 4 votes
#2.4 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 4:12 PM EDT

Gee, I read it on Think Progress so it must be true.......

    #2.5 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 4:49 PM EDT

    White Collar Auto

    Gee, I read it on Think Progress so it must be true.......

    Gee, you're dismissing information out of hand simply because you don't want to hear it and for no other good reason. Your casual refusal to consider any information that doesn't fit your prejudices is exactly why you wingnuts have lost contact with reality.

    • 4 votes
    #2.6 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 5:34 PM EDT

    White Collar Auto:

    [Gee, I read it on Think Progress so it must be true.......]

    Just because you don't like the messenger doesn't change the message.

    • 1 vote
    #2.7 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 7:53 PM EDT

    white collar crime can you point out something in the article that isn't true?

    • 1 vote
    #2.8 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 10:59 PM EDT
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    RVZ555Deleted

    the good people of wisconsin elected the governor who promised reform and delivered it -- the over paid union hack "people" from god knows what state that overran the state house should have been tossed in jail.

    • 3 votes
    Reply#4 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 4:10 PM EDT

    SO, out of staters should keep out of WI politics, right Rob? Say- what's the 'ma' in you moniker stand for??

    • 5 votes
    #4.1 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 4:18 PM EDT

    I just don't like THUGS drive by, that all.

    "Everybody is entitled to my opinion" see how fair I can be?

      #4.2 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 4:23 PM EDT

      Well, helll- that's better than a sore weiner: it can't be beat.

      • 2 votes
      #4.3 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 4:35 PM EDT

      Rob in MA, you and Bob are a pair -- all you prove is that Massachusetts is apparently a thug state. You can't appreciate that in other parts of the country things are run differently. Do you like Gov. Romney?

      • 2 votes
      #4.4 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 4:40 PM EDT

      the republicans hired two out of state convicted felons to collect signatures. one was arrested for theft, after robbing a couple. who knows how many more crimes they commited. the out of state teabagger from utah who started the recalls against the dems, also a convicted felon, spent 10 years in prison.so rob would you consider these people "thugs" ? or do you reserve that term for school teachers who are fighting to maintain a middle class living?

      • 1 vote
      #4.5 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 11:13 PM EDT
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      RVZ555 -

      As California go, so goes the nation.

      • 1 vote
      Reply#5 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 4:32 PM EDT

      Yep, and what happened in CA was brought to you by none other than Howard Jarvis, REPUBLICAN.

      • 4 votes
      #5.1 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 5:27 PM EDT

      And Ronald Reagan - Republican. And Arnold Schwarznegger - Republican.

      • 2 votes
      #5.2 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 5:56 PM EDT

      Fielden,

      Both Republican, whats your point? Its both sides, and the current governor Jerry Brown is bought and paid for by the unions. They will not be happy until they drain every cent from the taxpayers not only the middle class, these taxes also effects the poor and elderly.

      I am so glad I have a home in Arizona when it gets to much, I am gone.

        #5.3 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 7:52 PM EDT

        thetotas bah- bah, if we could get rid of the few rethugs we have left out here, we can get this state back to the great state it once was before the repubicans. thank god californians were not stupid enough to vote in the teabaggers like all those poor states, evan though more corporate money was spent here than any other state to elect the right wing extremists. alot of smart people out here

        • 1 vote
        #5.4 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 11:22 PM EDT
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        "...petitioners falsely identified themselves as state officials and lied to residents on the Menominee Indian reservation, claiming the petition was to increase Indian voting rights."

        Hm? Republicans lying? Naw, just sharpening their primary skill set.

        • 4 votes
        Reply#6 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 4:36 PM EDT

        Let the door smack them on their as.. on the way out.

        • 1 vote
        Reply#7 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 4:48 PM EDT

        A few weeks ago, one of the Republicans' petition collectors was caught offering to buy people drinks in bars in exchange for their signatures. And the Republicans are supposedly worried about so-called "voter fraud" when the real problem is Republican fraud.

        • 6 votes
        Reply#8 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 5:22 PM EDT

        and that's why they're running scared trying to pass all these crazy bills cause they know their time is short. I wish every last one of them could have been recalled. Now they're making it harder to register to vote or vote with more crazy rules. Yep, talk about fraud, they wrote the book.

        • 2 votes
        #8.1 - Fri Jun 3, 2011 7:37 AM EDT
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        RING !!! Hey, Repukes, it for you !!! The Voters are going to RECALL your fat a$$es and clean out the People's office and Fumigate !!! Sayonara, Repukes - it's 40 Years in the Wilderness - AGAIN !!!

        • 2 votes
        Reply#9 - Thu Jun 2, 2011 7:00 PM EDT

        I so proud of them Westconsiners for taking their stands, fore & aft. Why, here in Utah, we have a upstart ex BYU placekicker wants to depose our venerial Senator Oral Snatch. Guess incumbent not conservative enuf to fit the new Palinism.

          Reply#10 - Fri Jun 3, 2011 12:17 AM EDT

          good job WISCONSIN....continue on!!! Walker will be next. Good riddance to bad trash.

            Reply#11 - Fri Jun 3, 2011 7:17 AM EDT

            The left is recalling the right! The right is recalling the left! The unions are calling to order the rank and file to blank the riled! The riled are going to vote out the enemy! This GOP/TEA Primary is going to be a duzzie!

              Reply#12 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:37 PM EDT
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