Bob, just like how Republicans use sounds bites from any Democrat disagreeing with the President, we can us any sound bites of a Republican disagreeing with another Republican, so the point you are making it a silly one. Choose something else to complain about. I for one will enjoy the Republican primary like I did the Democratic primary. This is where all the candidates get put on the hot seat and defend their positions in order to win over THEIR party in order to get the nod to challenge the President. That is all it is...nothing more nothing less. Once you have your man or woman in place, then it's on and we can bitch about the merits of your candidate and my candidate until it's time to cast our ballot.

"Lucy, you have some splaining to do." She will still support him if he wins the primary. You have to expect candidate hopefuls to disagree with the competition on some items.

FR: Palin fires shot at Romney . . . .

Did Sarah take him out, or just wing him? And did she do the deed while flying in Governor Christies' helicopter?

Bob

Maybe because democrats are not personally disrespectful of each, remember now campaigns are like watching a pitbull fight even with lipstick on.

To the point I wish the taxpayers would pay for all my summer vacation expenses in a $300.00 bus.

"Palin first shot at Romney..." Looks like she's running; otherwise, why bother? A very unconventional campaign is in Sarah's playbook. It's called "sniper": shoot then run and hide.

"because we have great faith in the private sectors "

I certainly don't. THey're the reason we're in a recession and the wealth gap between rich and poor is bigger than ever. Where are the jobs, private sector? Why arent you paying your taxes, private sector? Why do you outsource, private sector? Why arent you environmentally friendly, private sector?

Cygnus, thank you for saying what we're all thinking!

At least Sarah Palin is honest about what constitutes the right-wing ideology.

Voters sent Republicans to the House in 2010 expecting them to create jobs. How wrong they were! The Tea Party doesn't believe in taking action to "interfere" with the economy. The Republican mantra is: corporations are our God. They believe wholeheartedly that the free market will get sick people covered for healthcare, that the free market will prevent waste and fraud in the defense industry, that tax cuts for businesses and wealthy individuals will spur job creation. Hasn't happened yet, but, like Sarah Palin, this is what they believe.

Ben-636050

You have to expect candidate hopefuls to disagree with the competition on some items.

Unless it is the Ryan / GOP Medicare plan.

I thought you were quoting her as a joke...My 5yr old has better grammar than Palin....Its like she took Republican queue cards, put them in a blender (her head) and then she pukes them out in the most unintelligent combinations...its hysterical...

...nor does faux report that President Obama finally got bin laden...

Yet this same woman would still mandate who can marry whom? And she would mandate prayer in school? She says government should not tell people what to do, but her whole agenda is about dictating how others should live.

TO: Ben-636050 who wrote:

"... You have to expect candidate hopefuls to disagree with the competition on some items.”

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Right, but she’s not even running – LOL !

Well said, Keith.

right-wingers talk about government not interfering in private lives. However, they don't mind it when govt proxies, BIG BUSINESS, affect everyone's lives with the laws and economy they influence.

TO: ROY WILSON-336103 who wrote:

“…The key for the Republicans is for all of the candidates to focus their criticisms on Obama and his far-left liberal agenda and lack of any progress on what matters the most - jobs and the economy…”

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I think a better plan would be for Republicans to tout their ACCOMPLISHMENTS, except for the fact that Republicans haven’t had any accomplishments since the 70s under Ronald Reagan, IF you count Ronald Reagan granting amnesty to 6,000,000 illegal aliens an “accomplishment” especially now that we know the outcome which turned 6 million illegals into what’s now 12,000,000 illegal aliens.

Cygnus,

Jobs? Obama's CBO has stated that Obamacare will cost 800,000 jobs. Seems what Sarah and a lot of conservatives, businesses, etc. have been saying.

Why arent you environmentally friendly, private sector?

One of the other things Sarah took a shot a Romney about was subsidies. She wants to get rid of all energy subsidies.

Solar receives 52 times more subsidy money per megawatt hour of electricity than coal and 92 times more than natural gas.

The stimulus subsidies for renewable energy cost taxpayer $475,000 for every job generated!

The Institute for Energy Research found that the cost of wind energy to be 25 cents per kilowatt hour compared to 7 cents for natural gas. Almost 4 times the expense.

Oh yea, wind supplies 1% of of our energy. This crap doesn't work, it cost stupid amounts of money and cost 2-4 other jobs for every green job created.

Ethanol is stupid. We put 40% of our corn crop in our gas tanks that give us less MPG, costing even more for gas, but also drives up the costs of food.

All thanks to your big government.

Asinine.

@AmericanGirl -- That's why I said candidate "hopefuls." Also, the biggest accomplishment for Republicans is to prevent the failed obama administration from driving the U.S. off the cliff. The party of NO had every right to say no and thankfully so.

Hmmm a new campaign slogan: The Party of No and Thankfully So.

I absolutely HATE Sarah Palin....and I rarely allow/choose to hate anyone.

She's just so dumb.

"...we have great faith in the private sectors and our own families ... and our own businessmen and women making decisions for ourselves."

Palin did not, however, say how much faith we have in board members having a say about our health care, vs. politicians having a say.

What a doofus-woman.

I am not sure why people are so Upset that Sarah Palin believes that Marriage is between a Man and a Woman. Obama Believes the same Exact thing .. Oh nevermind with Sarah its a Republican that says it. When Obama Says it. You know he doesn't mean it He just said it to Garner Votes..

Sarah Palin makes a great case why presidents should be men. Women just don't have the cajones downstairs to make the tough stands. Palin won't declare she's running, and she's too afraid to declare she's not.

She hurts her party with her ambivilance, but she's only interested in #1 and #2. (#2 is god)

does Sarah think Medicare Part D is unconstitutional ... its a mandate isnt it ... would carrying some form of ID to vote be a mandate ..is haveing Auto insurance if you want to drive a mandate ... how about business leaders makeing decisions for you .. do you want business to have complete control with ...no oversight ...no tort laws ..no regulations .. no Government interference of any kind ... no SS .. no Medicare .. she sounds like a great leader for the tea party .. Romney wont fire back ..he doesnt have the balls hes a coward and wont stick up for his own policy (both of them) just what the country needs to send our country over the cliff

There is nothing new about Democrats being critical of other Democrats. Getting them to agree on almost anything is like herding cats. We all know that Republicans are not supposed to ever be critical of another Republican. This leads to their cookie cutter outlook on issues. It is just one more reason not to take them seriously. The man who decides their policy has a radio show that is way too long every day and has taken prescription pain killers without a prescription.

timewontell - Why don't you ask her, if you have the guts. Liberals can only speculate on things they don't know and then try to dispairage what they are afraid of and treat their ideas like facts. Did you go through this litany of questions when making Obama your vote, or did you blindly cast your vote without asking any questions? It appears as though a lot of Americans did this, so I will count you in as just another liberal with insane ideas and hopeful expectations on an unknown liberal democrat that has fallen so short of the mark. Must not matter to you though since you still support the brain dead puppet at the helm.

@ Bob

Hmm. And what motive would the "Institute of Energy Research" have for railing against wind???

Ah, I love these names they create. That's like citing the "Institute for Healthy Tobacco".

I am not dissing Palin. I am enjoying her pick her own side apart. Coming after Romney on the day he does his big announcement, is just considered in poor taste in her Repub. party. Only problem she has is that she has not mastered the English language, and makes a fool out of herself everytime she opens her mouth. Who's next on her hit list? Who is announcing next? And who, besides Faux News is backing her? Trump? Murdoch? The Koch Bros.? Who? This is like Mc Donald's, "I'm lovin' it"! You go girl! You're doing the Dems work for them.

I hope she runs and wins the nomination. That would be a lock on a democrat win! Saturday Night Live will have a lot of material to work with with Palin in the ring! Jon Stewart as well. Go Palin!!!

Sarah the twit , doesn't even know what she is talking about. Her brain is the size of a gnat. Anybody show me one, just one speech or comment that is anything other than a criticism from this disgusting bag of wind. Does she really think she could get away with this kind of crap at a debate or any kind of serious discussion about anything important? Any fool can criticize. It takes some intelligence to be analytical and know your facts. Any dumb dumb can stand up there and do what she does.

WoW!!! That's cool. You are using Dick Morris' talking points now. Will wonders never cease. That med cart must had made it to your room LOL!!!!

Benny - Looks like you've contracted yourself a BAD case of Feisty Fever...

One of the symptoms is an unnatural obsession with 'med carts' & following me around like a little dog in heat!

Fair warning to you - I tend to drop kick little critters who ride my leg... ;o)

Fiesty I just got a visual of that Lol

the Independents will decide the election.

Yes they will Roy & you're going to be VERY disappointed with the outcome!

You heard it here first...

Independents are NOT going to vote for these extremists!

Hell they're already organizing recalls of the nut jobs they elected in 2010!

Why Feisty, you've attracted the trifecta!

The Bobinator, Ben-Dover-Daddy & that guy Roy toys with his faux tea facts more than normal...

"...Obama and his far left liberal agenda and lack of any progress..."

Whoa there Roy Toy! Obama is a centrist when you look honestly at his accomplishments.

He compromises but that is a necessary part of governing; which is why the GOP/TP won't compromise. BTW where are the promised JOBS? Doesn't seem to be a right wing priorty since they WON last fall.

...some of u people need to take a break from posting and go out and get some air

Hey Feisty, quit hogging all the popcorn. I could use a refill please :-).

Speaking of which - hey AM - what's the hold up on certifying the dem recalls? Games or legit?

Either way, I suspect it will fire up some people - it sure looks fishy.

Oh and Feisty old gal, I don't suppose you 1. care to comment on the economic indicators, or 2. the effect they will have on the independent vote?

I know you can't, but just harkin back to your messiah, Billy Clinton: "It's the economy stupid."

You go girl.

I love nothing more than to see Republican snakes go after one another. One who has never done anything to advance American causes other than sightsee our national monuments [Sarah "The Bimbo" Palin] and the other who saw fit to do something for the people of his state who will now be ripped apart by the republican party for doing so [Romney].

Either way, I won't be voting for any of the do-nothing JOBS JOBS JOBS lying Republicans.

Obama/Biden 2012! Yaaaahooooooooo!

Hey Feisty, quit hogging all the popcorn. I could use a refill please :-).

Did you mention *popcorn*?

Coming right up...

Hope you like extra butter! ;o)

Why Feisty, you've attracted the trifecta!

Tell me about it! I had NO idea they scheduled a Feisty Fan Club meeting here this afternoon... lol

AG:

I won't be voting for any of the do-nothing JOBS JOBS JOBS lying Republicans.

Obama/Biden 2012! Yaaaahooooooooo!

So you'll be voting for the DEBT DEBT DEBT Democrats?

Clinton was right - it is the economy and the people will blame the most visible personality when they vote. That will be our President.

joanna, all of washington is debt, debt, debt. if you're going to point fingers remeber you got a couple pointing back at you.

joanna, all of washington is debt, debt, debt. if you're going to point fingers remeber you got a couple pointing back at you.

You're preaching to the choir H_H. Lets ask a few questions - Who wants a clean debt ceiling vote, one that would permit adding another $2 trillion to the national debt? Who wants conditions on raising the debt ceiling to rein in the out of control spending? Who is addressing the out of control entitlement spending? Who is ignoring the out of control entitlement spending? Who talks about raising taxes day in and day out, but never creates any legislation to do so, let alone vote on it, let alone pass it?

Now who is (starting) to get serious about the debt of the country. It sure isn't Obama/Democrats.

To Romney, Palin, Gingrich, Trump, Pawlenty, and the rest of the circling vultures. Try getting a real job! Get your hands dirty! Use your brain instead of a photo-op! All of you are a sorry bunch of "socialists" You do not want the average American, to have anything, without working for it but ALL of you; want everything, given to you! Not one of you, have a resume, worth the paper, it is written on! Trump and Palin are using this free ride, to increase their personal wealth. What a waste of money. I would rather buy a star and have it named after them. Dumb and Dumber! Or Boonie and Clyde! Or Nero and Cleopatra! Or Bush and Cheney! Or Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumb! You get my drift. They are idiots! I do not know who is worse, the Republicans, the media or the people who actually gullible enough to support, this group of fungi! They are not even mushroom quality. They are more like poisonous toadstools! Planter's warts!

this group of fungi!

PERFECT description for the current crop of crazies & their supporters!

They LOVE to live in the dark and feed off of sh!t!

PS: Good to see you today! ;o)

"Tell me about it! I had NO idea they scheduled a Feisty Fan Club meeting here this afternoon... lol"

....and one of 'em is gassed!

JoAnnaSmith1,

Are you suffering some sort of amnesia? I respect your points against the Democrats and their inaction on a lot of serious issues, but I question who you place your faith in to fix these problems. It was the immoral and illegal war in Iraq, as well as the US' conflict in Afghanistan, that has largely contributed to the US' debt - both wars started by a Republican controlled White House. While Afghanistan could be argued to be a righteous war, largely ignoring it for years while allocating massive amounts of resources to secure energy sources in Iraq has led to the scale of the conflict the US is experiencing in Afghanistan/Pakistan now. Not to mention it was the Republicans whom initiated the first of a series of government bailouts ($800b) for large barks, investment firms, automotive companies, and Wall Street financial institutions - a trend Obama has simply continued. The Bush White House tried privatizing social security shortly after his re-election, and it was fiercely resisted by the people. Then again, there are rumours that Obama will attempt to do the same thing in the name of austerity measures in the near future.

Ultimately, you have to admit that both sides are seemingly rotten to the core, as there are plenty of arguments on both sides as to why each party has been incapable of governing effectively in recent history. It is time for a serious rethinking of the way modern politics serve the people who fund their governments, as well as a more firm and committed responsibility to the planet that's given us everything we have to this day. How many times can a country flip-flop from red-blue-red-blue-red-blue all the while experiencing declining standards of life, and keep thinking that if we just vote the other guys in this time, everything's gonna be swell afterwards?

Carrot top in drag said:

Yes they will Roy & you're going to be VERY disappointed with the outcome!

You heard it here first...

Independents are NOT going to vote for these extremists!

Hell they're already organizing recalls of the nut jobs they elected in 2010!

The reason they are disatisfied with the newly elected congressmen is because they aren't going after the liberals enough. For as much as you think there's a dissatisfaction, you don't know the half of it red headed stepchild. The economy is falling and YOU think the American public is happy with the democrats? Here, let me help you remove those blinders.

The economy is falling and YOU think the American public is happy with the democrats?

Well they sure as hell aren't happy with the Teapublicans, remember, they were the ones who hollared VOTE for me and we will fix all that ails you! lol

Then there's these interesting numbers:

54% of the population blame the bad economy on George W. Bush & 39% blame Obama.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/may_2011/54_blame_bush_recession_for_current_economic_problems_39_blame_obama

You can't lean much righter than Rasmussen!

Keep dreaming...

CC - You seem to be having a conversation with yourself. Certainly you do a good job paraphrasing the past, but now it's time to look to the future. Reining in the deficit/debt isn't an option anymore, it is mandatory. And either the current set of Republicans/Democrats in DC start doing the job, or we get someone else that will. The House Republicans have made a mild attempt at starting to slow down the massive spending, and they have been treated to nothing but demagoguery from the Democrats and the media. The Democrats have even claimed to have won a formerly GOP seat (NY-26) by being critical of the Republican plans, all the while not having any plans of their own.

So who do think is even somewhat mildly interested in the economic future of the country?

CC: and keep thinking that if we just vote the other guys in this time, everything's gonna be swell afterwards?

I got news for you CC, things aren't going to be exactly "swell" for some time now. We, all of us, Democrats and Republicans, have stolen the future of the country to pay for the mores of today. That's the inheritance our children will get (to pay for) if we don't do anything about it.

Carrot top in drag - is that why Rasmussen carrys a presidential rating index that has been below zero since June 28, 2009? Since you can't stand Rasmussen because you feel they lean right, you might want to learn how to read the charts to get the total story.

I don't have to dream. I see reality for what it is. Wait to see how people react when the job reports come out tomorrow. Sorry, but they aren't looking too good for your worshipful master. You've hooked your paws on a falling star, red headed stepchild.

Hey Carrot Top in drag - Since you are so big on using Rasmussen, how about this story from them: Twenty-six percent (26%) of Likely U.S. Voters now say the country is heading in the right direction, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey taken the week ending Sunday, May 29.

Who is the leader of this country? What's his name? Why, by George, it's Obama isn't it? I guess this proves your point overwhelmingly! ROFL! Let's see... if only 26% feel we are headed in the right direction, I guess that means that 74% feel we aren't, or are undecided. It could be the undecided live underground, or in the Kentucky caves and once they pop their heads up, they will decide rather quickly.

Red headed stepchild - learn a lesson! Don't use a source that is not supporting of your viewpoint. It's one of the first rules of debate.

ROY WILSON - Well Said, Independents will decide the election. I voted for Obama and support him but its clear his economic team is stuck in the mud. To much cronyism and back door deals which is why the stimulus ended up in board rooms instead of main street projects. The Republicans seem to be offering nothing new or offering proposals that are symbolic with no chance of passing. The FED seems content with propping up the Stock Market which is a ticking time bomb in my opinion. I fret we are heading down a road of major austerity, which is probably right but will send our economy into the oblivion.

Was that "Bunker Hill" in Boston, or the one in New York?

"However, even on a state level and even a local level, mandates coming from a governing body, it's tough for a lot of us independent Americans to accept, because we have great faith in the private sectors and our own families ... and our own businessmen and women making decisions for ourselves. Not any level of government telling us what to do."

So, is she advocating no government at all? She seemed to have no hesitation governing for the half term she spent as governor. A comment like this is why she shouldn't be taken as anything more than an entertainer.

Joan of Anchorage seems to think business men and women should be free from government intervention and oversight--but she doesn't allow private citizens the same freedom (her stance on abortion etc.). Strange creature!

To all of you independents, you do not control the election. Every one has a vote. So stop acting like you are going to decide the election. Unless, you want to take responsibility for the Bush-Cheney years.

Hey Fiesty, how are you doing? Have you seen Sarah yet? If you smell something foul, it isn't her bus fumes! Watch out for those flying beer canns, I would want you to get injured by the empties! I am talk about the cans not her head!

Have you seen Sarah yet?

Unfortunately, you can't miss her!

Doesn't every woman on vacation go sight seeing in stiletto's & mini skirts? LMAO!

Now she's throwing the First Dud under the bus & claiming this was all HIS idea!

Take that back says: "To all of you independents, you do not control the election. Every one has a vote. So stop acting like you are going to decide the election".

It's a figure of speech. Maybe "Undecided Independents" is a better term. Everyone decides the election, all voters. You have a given number of registered Democrats and Republicans, and without knowing the stats, it's probably quite even on both sides cumulatively. Dems aren't going to spend a lot of time or money trying to convert Republicans, and the opposite is true as well. They are going to try to sway the Independent voter who could vote either way. If your district or state heavily leans to your opponents side, you need all the independent voters you can get. If it's pretty even, then you just need to get more independent voters than your opponent. Thus the importance of the independents.

You know who doesn't give a damn about any of the things being discussed here? The corporate executives who've been taking $20 mil bonuses from their companies that receive subsidies or bail-out money, all while skirting the tax system by putting their cash in offshore bank accounts. Must be a nice lifestyle, not have to worry about much. Well, besides having better stuff than the next guy. Yep, these are the same guys our politicians wine and dine to get campaign contributions. So, the guy that doesn't have to worry about any of the things the rest of us do, that's who your politicians are fighting for.

JoAnnaSmith1

AG:

I won't be voting for any of the do-nothing JOBS JOBS JOBS lying Republicans.

Obama/Biden 2012! Yaaaahooooooooo!

So you'll be voting for the DEBT DEBT DEBT Democrats?

But Rep. Sander Levin, D-Mich., accused Republicans of a "ploy so
egregious that (they) have had to spend the last week pleading with Wall Street
not to take it seriously and risk our economic recovery."

He and other Democrats added that
Republicans were attempting to draw
attention away from their controversial plan to turn Medicare into a program in
which seniors purchase private insurance coverage.

The proceedings occurred roughly
two months before the date Treasury
Secretary Tim Geithner has said the debt limit must be raised. If no action is
taken by Aug. 2, he has warned, the government
could default on its obligations and risk turmoil that might plunge the nation into another recession or even an economic
depression.

Republicans, who are scheduled to
meet with Obama at the White House on Wednesday, signaled in advance that the
debt limit vote did not portend a final refusal to grant an increase.

The roll call vote was held late
in the day, and there was little, if any discernible impact on Wall Street,
where major exchanges showed gains for the day. At the same time, it satisfied
what GOP officials said was a desire among the rank and file to vote against
unpopular legislation the leadership has said eventually must pass in some
form.

Republicans said they were
offering legislation Obama and more than 100 Democratic lawmakers had sought.

But Rep. Steny Hoyer of Maryland, the second-ranking Democrat, accused the
GOP of staging a "demagogic vote" at a time lawmakers should work
together to avoid a financial default.

All 97 votes in favor of the
measure were cast by Democrats, totaling less than a majority and far under the
two-thirds support needed for passage.

For its part, the administration
appeared eager to avoid criticizing Republicans.

"It's fine, it's fine,"
presidential press secretary Jay Carney said when asked about the Republican
decision to tie spending cuts with more borrowing.

"We believe they should not
be linked because there is no alternative that's acceptable to raising the debt
ceiling. But we're committed to reducing the deficit," Carney said.

The government has already reached the limit of its borrowing authority,
$14.3 trillion, and the Treasury is using a series of extraordinary maneuvers
to meet financial obligations.

By no longer would making investments in two big pension funds for federal
workers and beginning to withdraw current investments, for example, the
Treasury created $214 billion in additional borrowing headroom.

So the GOP wants to add $214 billion, cha ching!!!! Oh, How smart, thank GOP

DUH

palen is not running for office. was looking on msnbc for weinergate coverage, you see it is all over every other news source. democrat exposes weiner? where have we herd that before? boy i sure have not seen palen accused of putting filthy pictures of herself on twitter for a young college students eyes. yet we seem to have weiner exposed, just not on mslsd. mslsd is not state run liberal propaganda, i dont care what common sense says.

There is no proof that Weiner actually sent those picture. If hackers can hack the government computers surely they can hack into the tweeter system. Most people are innocent until proven guilty.

Of course, Palin is just taking a bus ride cross country, blasting possible presidential candidate, having pizza with the Trump, etc. and not running for office. Why do I have a problem believing that?

Go Palin and Romney!!!!

Show this country that the conservatives did it in 2010 and will do it bigger in 2011. They said the conservatives didn't have enough votes they were wrong back then, and they will be wrong again.

They are just jack'n their jaws. let em jack.

Good to see the gang out in force on this story - Palin seems to really rile up the more liberal among us.

Funny thing is that this constant rant about debt and all makes one wonder if anyone was paying attention - the talk of illegal wars... well, the lefties have been running congress for more than 4 years, and with Republicans controlling now just 1 segment the little loons are complaining that there are no jobs yet.

You just can't have it both ways - Obama miserably failed at ending the wars, he started a 3rd war that is now illegal, and has not closed Gitmo - 0 for 4 for the Peace Prize winner and now the President that will go down in history as waging the most wars of any President.

Next - you keep going on about how the Republicans should have already produced jobs on one hand, yet on the other your failure of 2 years of complete control of the government is blinding us from seeing the last 5 months and only the house - you see King Harry doesn't allow votes on bills that matter, and are in disagreement with his personal goals and priorities.

If Obama, King Harry and Scary old Nancy couldn't generate any real jobs in two years and $3 trillion in excess spending / debt (fake govt and temp union work with fake govt stimulus funds that are now mostly spent don't count) and with housing headed into a double dip, I doubt 1 segment of Congress can do much.

But I have to say it is funny reading about just how nasty and angry you all are - this confirms that you know you are all in real trouble and you think that screaming and squawking will make a difference. Makes me smile. And giggle a little.

Just popped in to see the feisty weave rant on the first post. Makes no difference what she/Bev say. They/it are MSNBC favorite haters. So many collapsed comments and never a ban for anything. Does anyone see favoritism? The wrong side always get away with crap.

TxChristopher

"The Independents decide EVERY election and if you do not know that then you are nothing more than a fool."

And they will decide the next election. Dems are already the minority party but they don't want to hear it.

JoAnneSmith wrote:

The House Republicans have made a mild attempt at starting to slow down the massive spending, and they have been treated to nothing but demagoguery from the Democrats and the media.

Hey, that's a good one. They can dish it out, but they can't take it, in other words.

Why would we trust the people who created the debt to get us out from under it? It's hardly the most pressing issue we face, anyway: Nothing reduces debt like a recovery, and the R's don't even pay lip service to that.

Bob wrote:

Dems are already the minority party but they don't want to hear it.

In the last national election, the Democrat running for president polled 69,500,000 votes to the Republican candidate's 59,934,814. In four of the last five presidential elections, the Democratic presidential candidate received more popular votes than the Republican.

Also in 2008, Democrats running for the House of Representatives totaled 65,200,000 votes to Republicans' 52,200,000. Same in the Senate: 34,000,000-30,000,000 -- with Texas doing a lot of blocking for the Republicans. With Barack Obama at the top of the ticket against whatever political Tom Thumb the Republicans put up, I'll take my chances in 2012.

But I'm guessing that you don't want to hear this.

Citizen K - What recovery are you speaking of? What signs of recovery are there? The GDP for the first quarter was lowered to just 1.8%. Not much of a recovery. The country is still bleeding jobs by the hundreds of thousands. Recovery? Not so much. Standard and Poor lowered the US credit rating. Moody's said on Thursday they are going to lower the AAA rating if the government doesn't show an improvement over the fiscal insanity they've been exhibiting for the past 2 1/2 years. Signs of recovery? QE2 (Quantitative Easing) will end in June. What will be the result? Inflation! Immediate and resolute inflation. Pay $2 for a loaf of bread today, it will cost $4.00 in September. Recovery?

Maybe with your superior mind, you can explain this recovery to me. I'm just not getting it. My dollar is worth less today than it was 2 months ago... the cost of gasoline is hovering near $4.00 per gallon. I'm trying my level best to find this recovery, but it is being elusive. Housing is about to go double dip. I'm not sure if that's where the recovery is... you gotta explain it to me. BTW, everything I just said is true so the intellectual liberal needs to guide me to find a recovery... Maybe it's in Tibet.

"However, even on a state level and even a local level, mandates coming from a governing body, it's tough for a lot of us independent Americans to accept, because we have great faith in the private sectors and our own families ... and our own businessmen and women making decisions for ourselves. Not any level of government telling us what to do."

Now she is an independent ????? Left the Republican part and the tea party ?? To boot sounds like she has declared herself a true Libertarian. I do believe she talks to hear herself and her ego. No wonder she likes Donald

Blind Justice - that Statement she made "not any level of Government telling us what to do"

For those Sarah lovers LISTEN CLOSELY....If that statement came from her heart, why don't you go to Wasilla and ask the Public Librarian that Sarah Fired while Mayor of Wasilla , because the woman refused to Ban books from the Library that Sarah felt should not be there. NOW THAT'S HYPOCRITICAL.

ps Blind not implying your a supporter, just following your post :)

I am not and understood what you did and said and I agree with your statement...."NOW THAT'S HYPOCRITICAL."

Palin. A moron. For morons.

So dman just how many doctors do you think are employed by the government?

Now, see if you can tell us the number of doctors and doctor groups that are running away from medicare.

Go ahead, give it a shot, then think through the implications.

DMAN: You mean to tell me you have no faith in corporate CEO's who have made their fortunes in denying healt care coverage to their patients? You must have more faith in the private market. It's "Big Government" you need to be careful of. It's so bad in fact, that every member of Congress is willing to give up their "socialized medicine" in order to obtain better health care through the private market.

This is just California but it still paints the picture:

Claims denial rates by leading California insurers (Jan-Jun of 2009):

PacifiCare -- 39.6 %
Cigna -- 32.7 %
HealthNet -- 30 %
Kaiser Permanente -- 28.3 %
Blue Cross -- 27.9 %
Aetna -- 6.4 %

That will change right. Paul Ryan said when you get your $6000 dollar voucher,( coupon or subsidy, whatever he is calling it today) you will be EMPOWERED to do battle with the insurance companies and you will be able to do something no one has been able to do in 30 years you will bring down the cost health of insurance.

Paul Ryan said when you get your $6000 dollar voucher,( coupon or subsidy, whatever he is calling it today

Personally, I'm in favor of 'Groupon'!

Now why didn't I think of this? lol

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report) – Presenting what he called a revolutionary plan to slash the nation’s mountain of debt, Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) today proposed eliminating the Social Security program in its entirety and replacing it with Groupons.

“Instead of waiting each month for a check from Social Security, America’s elderly will receive valuable Groupons for everything they need, from Ramen noodles to cat food to caskets,” Mr. Ryan said in an appearance on Fox News.

Adding that Groupons would also help provide for elders’ medical needs, the congressman illustrated his point by holding up a Groupon offering 30 percent off on open-heart surgery in Cincinnati.

Moving on from Social Security, Mr. Ryan also proposed replacing Medicare with a new program in which seniors are shot at by Predator drones.

Additionally, Mr. Ryan said, in his new budget so-called “friends with benefits” would lose their benefits.

“If they’re really friends, they should be satisfied if the evening ends with a voucher,” he said.

Speaker of the House John Boehner, appearing alongside Rep. Ryan, offered these words of praise for the Wisconsin congressman: “Preachers like Harold Camping go around predicting the end of the world, but it’s guys like Paul Ryan who do the hard work of making it happen.”

@bayllie -- Wow you are right. I never realized how people actually filed false and fraudulent claims. Thank you for pointing that out.

@Feisty -- I like Living Social. Can't you come up with anything original of substance. You are good at put downs but not ideas. You live by the philosophy of: "It is plagiarism if you steal from one person and research if you steal from many."

Thanks for that info Ballie, I will know now to buy my Medicare insurance from Aetna - looks like the best deal. I wonder if the hospital emergency rooms that are mandated to give free emergency room care to anybody that walks up will be able to lower costs if they can recover at least half their expenses? And don't say no unless you can come up with hard evidence to prove otherwise, its just something to talk about.

I was the number one salesman with a company for 3 years straight in the legal research field. My heart valve started having a few flutters and had to go to the doctor and have a bunch of test.

The next thing i knew i was pushed out of the company with bad territories and no longer a way to make living.

A few years later the ex-sales manager told me it was the insurance company that had put pressure on the legal research company to eliminate anyone with medical problems to keep the rates down.

He was personal friends with the owner during that time. As a few years later the legal research company of 600 employees was bought out and he left.

g

Feisty (s/b snarly) must have taken off her feed bag to pinch that one out!

Ben,

@bayllie -- Wow you are right. I never realized how people actually filed false and fraudulent claims. Thank you for pointing that out.

even though I am sure that fraud happens, the denials are not based on fraud alone but on bottom line. when a sick claimant cuts into profit, the insurance companies find loopholes to deny the claim. But, Ben, nice try on the spin. You get A+ on creativity!

Forrest,

Ryan doesn't want them to be called vouchers. I think they should be called government gift cards. Sounds so much better.

Yes very good and then we will re-gift them to the insurance company along with thousands more.

I am so tired of this nonsense and we have seventeen months to go. Palin, Romney, Weiner, Trump, Pailn, Trump, Newt, Trump, Palin, Newt..................... You know all the ditto heads. People with egos and empty hearts.

I know our country is in deep trouble but I beleive President Obama will be able to turn things around. He has had a little over two years, to untangle eight years of disfunctional and greedy Republican hubris.

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Romney takin shots from her??? Thats rather funny since she is shootin with a unloaded six shooter brain. When she speaks on the TV I have to move the kids out of the room for fear they might actually lose brain cells and IQ listening to her speak.

Hunting for cash.

Hunting for media monkeys.

Got me, the article I read she called herself an independent out right to begin with.

Go figure :)

I recall what "FLYNAVY" and what "Pat, Boston, MA" posted up in a previous NewsVine comments section, and I think it is appropriate to note them, here.

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FLYNAVY1

The libertarian approach to government will not work simply as there are no inherent checks and balances to counter human greed in that approach to governance. Libertarians want to eliminate regulations and put everyone including corporations on the "Honor System" to do what is right. We already know how that works.

Libertarians are nothing more than anarchists that worship money.

#1.15 - Mon May 30, 2011 3:10 PM HST

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Pat, Boston, MA

Think Progress: My Healthcare is Different Because It's Shorter -

{you can't make this stuff up}

ROMNEY: If I become president, I will repeal ObamaCare. My bill was 70 pages. His is over 2,000. He's doing a lot of stuff that's devastating to the health care system in this country. He's wrong.

TProgress: Despite the disparity in length, the two laws are very similar in how they try to expand access to health care and some of those extra pages in the ACA are devoted to controlling health care spending — something Romney didn't include in his 2006 law-

#1.16 - Tue May 31, 2011 5:20 AM HST

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As for myself, I did remark in a previous NewsVine post to watch for what these Republican candidates for President do, is that they eat their own. Soon enough, they will be at each other's throats. Or, as journalists would describe this sort of behavior as, "the circular firing squad."

Pretty much, deregulation and allowing the private companies free reign in the market on many things is how the economy has reached it's present mess, allowing them to do whatever they want all together would trash it completely.

And that started many years ago, way before Obama or GWB.

He should defend it, p on his party, they are the ones who have nothing good. If I were him I`d fire back she needs a pie in the face.

If I were him I`d fire back she needs a pie in the face.

Leftover pizza would work also, too, you betcha! lol

JonR - um, we're #37 worldwide in our quality of health care, ranked by the World Health Organization. And we are not rising, we're dropping. It is not a huge success. That's why Obama passed health care legislation. It's because what we have is not very good for most Americans. When it comes to high technology, the US is exceptional. It's just that most Americans cannot afford it. This is why 60 million American's do not have health insurance. Our health care system is broken. A working health care system protects it’s citizens. If ours was as good as you say it is, 60 million people would not be without it today.

By the way, on another subject, I assume you get a lot of your info from FOX. Did you know that Fox News’ 2^nd largest shareholder is Saudi Prince Alaweed? As a corporation, FOX is legally required to operate in the best interests of it’s shareholders. You may want to keep in mind that the opinions and “facts” you hear on Fox are not necessarily in the best interests of the United States. As a corporation, Fox is keenly aware of the interests of it’s shareholders.

Thanks, Eric, someone had to say it...

Eric and Danc. JonR was talking about the quality of the Massachusetts health care system with respect to the rest of the U.S., not the U.S. as compared to the rest of the world. Talk about knee jerk reactions.

Does/did Glenn Beck know he was working for the Saudi stock holder? It doesn't sound plausible to me, but maybe that's why he bailed.

EricSimon says: "When it comes to high technology, the US is exceptional. It's just that most Americans cannot afford it. This is why 60 million American's do not have health insurance."

Perfect examples are Lance Armstrong and Magic Johnson. The common American simply could not afford the same drugs Armstrong took to beat his cancer. Most in his condition probably would have died. Same with Magic. Because of the drugs he was able to afford HIV is no longer detectable in his system. Pretty amazing if you ask me. Too bad the widow(s,ers) and children left behind by those in similar situations couldn't afford to have their loved one experience such thing.

I'm pretty sure Beck knew, well then again considering..................

I agree. They'll start out by bashing Obama and the Dems, but at some point, they'll have to separate themselves from each other. I don't think it'll go as far as having a 3rd party candidate, they know there is no way to win in that scenario.

It'll be very interesting to see how nasty it gets. There is a lot on the line for the Republicans, not just for the Presidency, but other seats. Obama carried a lot of Dem House and Senate candidates with him in 2008. I don't see that happening so easily for the Dems this year, but a dirty primary by the Republican candidates won't help them at the other levels either. There are some strong personalities in the GOP field, so I don't think it's going to be clean by any means.

Actually, mike, I thought this was a poor metaphor to use. It's not smart to joke about any politician getting shot. Doesn't matter that Sarah is associated with firearms and hunting, and she attacked Romney at Bunker Hill. They could have found another metaphor.

I am a republican, and I agree with you whole heartedly. It has been severely disappointing to see the sideshow primary candidates taking all the attention, when we need strong proven leadership in the party, and the nation. Mitt Romney did a great job with the Salt Lake 2002 Olympics and (IMO) as governor of Mass. I think he is a stand up guy. I've lived in Utah for 22 years as a non-mormon, and even though I think their religion is based on fallacy, most LDS I know exert a lot of effort to live sacrificially, more than most evangelical Christians OR socially-aware humanists. Modeling that behaviour in policy is what our country needs....we aren't going to get out of this hole we're in without some years of belt tightening. Having a "me first" or finger pointing mentality isn't going get us there.

Rob-1113329

Please tell me you're kidding. Driving is a choice. You don't have to drive. You don't have to have insurance UNLESS you CHOOSE to drive. You're comparing apples to bananas. The auto insurance mandate is only applicable if you make the CHOICE to drive a vehicle. The health insurance mandate gives you no choice.

TM-689440, that's nonsense - you have a CHOICE - to die!

TM above: Get a clue. You wanna talk about fuit when insurance companies give two choices.

To Die or Pay.

Period.

You have the mentality of an elementary child. If your logic is what's in store for America's future, we are destined for failure.

You don't need health insurance to stay alive

REALLY? Tell that to those stricken with cancer moron!

Not everyone has cancer, moron!!! That's why not everyone should be required to have insurance, moron!!

Not everyone has cancer, moron!!! That's why not everyone should be required to have insurance, moron!!

I give up!

You're too stupid to even respond!

I only pray you can't breed...

Right. That's it, you give up. I think you simply aren't capable of thinking outside your daily liberal talking points/attacks, so you throw in the towel. You offer no value, only garbage.

not really a choice if ypu have a job most people dont work next door to where live. i lot of people have to comute.henc they have to drive no choice

TM,

Why would anyone insure someone who suddenly shows up with cancer if the ones who don't have cancer have chosen not to pay into an insurance company. This would put the insurance companies in a lose-lose situation as a business - always paying out to those that suddenly need them and not receiving from those that don't need them. When you have cancer you end up using huge amounts of money that will equal much, much, much more than you ever put in.

I cant believe you guys are comparing auto insurance to medical insurance. Auto insurance is mandated because if some goober driving a raggity POS pulls out in front of me and totals out my car I'm not out in the cold because he didnt purchase auto insurance. Now with health insurance you are only protecting yourself and no-one else. If I so choose not to purchase health insurance then thats my problem. When did the health and care of my neighbor become my problem. (cold hearted as it is, thats what it is). Now if I had a choice of paying into Medicare than that should be my choice as well. But it isnt. Therefore those who qualify for Medicare before they even pay into it. YOUR WELCOME!!!

And LHO, when you come down with a terminal illness or are in a major car accident and require care the rest of your life - WE, those of us who have insurance, will be paying for you. If you are willing to carry a card in your wallet that says something like, "I choose not to have health insurance, please leave me alone - do not call an ambulance or take me to the hospital. Just let me die from my injuries or my disease. That's okay with me. Oh, by the way, I decided not to cover my children either, so leave them alone as well." Then, that would be a choice you can have...otherwise, we already pay for those that don't have health coverage and that is driving the cost of the premiums and health services up for those of us who do have it.

I'll bet you don't have a problem taking Social Security or Medicare or Unemployment or Vets benefits?

TM, it's the uninsured drivers that get into accidents that drive costs up. Just like it's the uninsured people who need emergency care that drive health care costs up. In both cases, it's those that are insured that end up paying for those who are not.

To follow your "choice" logic for a minute; when people have kids, they are making a choice. In making that choice, the responsible thing to do would be to have heath insurance. If they don't, who's footing the bill for the checkups, the delivery, the post-birth hospital stay, the immunizations, etc? Going even further with your "choice" logic, do people "choose" to get into accidents? No. Do people choose to have a life-threatening disease? No. Don't say one persons medical expenses don't effect the next guy, because they do.

I don't necessarily agree with mandates. But I also know that the status-quo of the insured paying for the uninsured isn't working either. The insurance companies don't care because they'll get their money regardless. And that's who the Republicans are fighting for, the insurance companies, not the guys like you and I that have and pay for our insurance.

To add one more point to TM's "choice" logic. Do doctors have a choice to save or not save a person who's on their operating table based on whether or not they have insurance? No, they don't. It's part of their oath to do everything they can so save a persons life, whether they're uninsured or a mass murderer. Do insurance companies choose to eat the costs for services rendered to the uninsured? No, they pass those costs on to those that do pay for insurance.

One last thing. Our elected representatives CHOOSE to participate in the Federal Employees Heath Benefits Program. Yet, Republicans don't want to give you the same CHOICE as they have. Instead, THEY WANT TO PLACE YOU INTO A SYSTEM THAT THEY WON'T EVEN HAVE PARTICIPATE IN THEMSELVES! Since their voucher system is the answer, how about we test it out on them and their families first and see how it goes?

when you come down with a terminal illness or are in a major car accident and require care the rest of your life - WE, those of us who have insurance, will be paying for you

First of all I CHOOSE to carry insurance so I dont worry about it. But it was my choice. Secondly if I didnt carry insurance and needed medical attention, the hostpital doesnt just randomly select an insurance company to bill, they either charge the state or write it off, so your insurance company doesnt have to foot my bill. Insurance companies charge so much because 1. We pay it and 2. Hospitals charge outrageous prices for simple procedures. And I say again, I am pro choice. I should be able to CHOOSE whether I want insurance on my health or not. I dont pity these insurance companies one bit, they are making money hand over fist.

I'll bet you don't have a problem taking Social Security or Medicare or Unemployment or Vets benefits?

BTW I pay into social security and medicare without a choice, and I am a Vet (which I earned that title) and no I dont take any of those benefits.

News flash LHO. When the state pays the bill where is it you think they get the money from? The money faries? And when the hospital writes off the slackers bill, you actually think they just eat that cost? Ever wonder why the costs at a hospital are so outrageous? Greed is part of it but making up a loss is another part of it. Are you really that dense?

Why do we contribute and invest into things that we may or may not benefit from? The concepts of altruism and collective goods comes to mind. Both not only increase our individual survivability when these tools are needed, but also contributes greatly to our success as a civilization and world power.

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The common good is a term that can refer to several different concepts. In the popular meaning, the common good describes a specific "good" that is shared and beneficial for all (or most) members of a given community. This is also how the common good is broadly defined in philosophy, ethics, and political science.

The common good is often regarded as a utilitarian ideal, thus representing "the greatest possible good for the greatest possible number of individuals". In the best case scenario, the "greatest possible number of individuals" would mean all sentient beings. This definition of the common good presents it as a quality which is convertible, or reducible, to the sum total of all the private interests of the individual members of a society and interchangeable with them.

Another definition of the common good, as the quintessential goal of the state, requires an admission of the individual's basic right in society, which is, namely, the right of everyone to the opportunity to freely shape his life by responsible action, in pursuit of virtue and in accordance with the moral law. The common good, then, is the sum total of the conditions of social life which enable people the more easily and straightforwardly to do so. The object of State sovereignty is the free choice of means for creating these conditions. Others, in particular John Rawls, makes the distinction between the Good, that is actively creating a better world however that may be defined, and the Just, which creates a fair, liberal social infrastructure that allows the pursuit of virtue, but does not prescribe what the common good actually is.

Some assert that promoting the common good is the goal of democracy (in the sphere of politics) and socialism (in the sphere of economics).

Increasingly, progressive Americans are adopting the language of the common good (sometimes referred to as "public wealth") to describe progressive values. As an ethical and moral imperative, the common good is central to the tenets of many religious faiths and can be succinctly described as doing unto others, to use a Christian phrase, as we would wish done unto ourselves (known as The Golden Rule; also see its Confucian complement, "do not do to others what you would not like them to do to you," commonly called "The Silver Rule"). Aristotle was the first to articulate an ethical understanding of common good, followed by Augustine of Hippo and Thomas Aquinas who developed the concept into standard moral theology.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_good

Thanks for the chuckle Sally as you attempt to insult my intelligence. But the conversation with maga was that she pays for my bill if i dont have insurance because she has insurance, which is not a true statement. I am well aware who pays the bill when a hospital writes it off or sends it to the state. I do, with the taxes I pay, and believe me I pay my fair share of taxes. And my taxes goes towards the health care of those who draw SSI and disability and medicaid and dont have a job or contributing anything towards the governments revenue. We are talking about emergency procedures anyway because if you dont have some type of insurance, you are not getting routine visits. But I should not be required to insure my own health.

LHO, you said "I am well aware who pays the bill when a hospital writes it off or sends it to the state. I do, with the taxes I pay, and believe me I pay my fair share of taxes".

No, you don't pay for a hospital write off with your taxes. Hospitals are insured themselves, thus it is their insurance company that foots the bill. Just like your auto premium rises with accidents and tickets, hospitals costs rise as well. Thus they charge more for their services. Who pays for those more expensive services? Your insurance company. And what does your insurance company do? Raise your premium.

And let's not ignore how much costs have increased due to uninsured people suing doctors and hospitals. This after those doctors helped the people while knowing they weren't going to pay.

Don't get me wrong, I don't want to be told what to do. I choose to carry health insurance for myself and my family, and I chose the most expensive best coverage plan I can. It's worth it to me. All I know is that the more expensive it becomes, the more that comes out of my surplus income, and the less I have to put back into the economy. The way I see it, litigation and the uninsured are the two major reasons costs are so high and something needs to be done on both fronts.

It is absolutely amazing how little almost every one of the contributors knows about how hospitals handle "uncollectibles". Bill the state or local gov't? Not most places. Reinsurance? Are you nuts! Amortize over the broad spectrum of patients and procedures so that everyone who does pay gets socked with a share? Right on.

You can't compare auto and health insurance directly, but in the sense that the uninsured place a burden on everyone (but especially those they injure, which makes it a different scenario) by creating economic damage, some of which must be made whole, mandating insurance coverage is to prevent any one blameless party being inordinately damaged by having everyone share the burden. That is a good definition for ANY insurance.

Rob... You should know better than quoting the NYTimes. The reason no one has been re-elected with an unemployment rate above 7.2 is that there is hardly ever been an election with that high of rate. In fact, there has been only two- 1976 Gerald Ford (7.8%) and 1980- Jimmy Carter (7.5%).- both lost. The next highest was 1984-Reagan (7.2%)- he won. Not that great of a trend

Rob, I guess they should just pick a GOP name from a hat and name them President then, huh? Until 2008 no African-American had been elected President, so how did Obama win? No woman has ever won the Presidency, so I guess Palin and Bachmann should go ahead and bow out now (they should, but for every other reason than their gender). Statistics work when taken into context. They become political one liners when they're taken out of context.

The Independent voter knows what happened in 2008 and the 3 years following. In 2010, they voted to have the Republicans give it a try based on the "jobs, jobs, jobs" agenda. And now they see the results, or the lack of them. For the educated voter, the burden of the unemployment number is on all politicians, not just one.

Heck I'll take it, I'll become a resident and receive money from their oil. How much?

I am not a republican but my family live in Mass and they like Mass. Health he should be proud that he did some good for many people.

R- Barack Obama has been a wonderful President. Maybe the best ever! He is going to be around for a second term, and there will be a movement to change the two-term limit for presidents. We wouldn't even be here without FDR... FOUR MORE YEARS!!!

2blunt4drivels

With the republican party doing everything under the sun to mandate abortion, I have to wonde how she can even dare to suggest that the teaparty is for less government intrusion. They are the worst part of the republican party.

Republicans are mandating that people have abortions? LOL

There is a big difference between the truth and what you just blurted out.

So big deal, I left out a few words. I'm sure that everyone except you was bright enough to know what I was getting at. The right wing parties are trying to mandate who, what, when, where and how a woman can get an abortion if at all. They have no business trying to regulate something that the Supreme Court has already reviewed and decided on several times. What about those jobs, TM? Aren't they more important to America that a personal choice by a woman about her own body? Shouldn't the focus be on jobs and defecit?

She is SOOOOOOO stupid...

2blunt4drivels

So big deal, I left out a few words. I'm sure that everyone except you was bright enough to know what I was getting at. The right wing parties are trying to mandate who, what, when, where and how a woman can get an abortion if at all. They have no business trying to regulate something that the Supreme Court has already reviewed and decided on several times. What about those jobs, TM? Aren't they more important to America that a personal choice by a woman about her own body? Shouldn't the focus be on jobs and defecit?

Those few words make a big difference and send out different meanings. It's simple grammar.

I have yet to see where Republicans are eliminating abortions. Where are they saying that private entities cannot give abortions? Where did they say that a woman cannot get an abortion? What I HAVE seen, is they are trying to ensure that government funds, i.e. EVERYONE's tax dollars are not going to places that provide abortions. Nowhere did they tell a woman what to do with their bodies, they are saying if you choose to get pregnant, then it's YOUR responsibility to pay for it. BIG difference in what you're saying and what's actually taking place.

The less money the government spends, the more money they have to pay off our nation's debt. The less debt we have, the better our economy runs. The better our economy is, the better our job availablity is...They are eliminating waste. Less waste = more efficiency. It's not that difficult to understand.

2blunt you need to get a dictionary and look up the meaning of the word "mandate". Typical constipated thinking by a liberal.

TM,

Republicans are just using this issue to appear like they are doing something - too late - already done and reissued in President Obama's healthcare bill.

"The law says individuals who get federal subsidy dollars must use their private money to pay for coverage of abortion except in cases of rape, incest or to save the life of the mother. Claims that the new law will lead to a large increase in the number of abortions lack support.

Strictly speaking, the new law does not provide direct federal funding for abortion, except in cases of rape or incest, or to save the life of the mother — the same rules that now apply to Medicaid coverage for low-income persons and to the insurance available to federal workers and military families. In fact, the new law states specifically that federal funds are not to be used for coverage of any other kinds of abortions, and that only premium dollars paid by individuals out of their own pockets may be used to pay for coverage of other kinds of abortions."

Sarah Palin must not live on the same planet as the rest of us or either that, she is blindly stupid. Or stupidly blind. People, in particular business people, are NOT best left alone to make all their decisions without some regulation. How does she think we got into the current mess we are now in? Greed and self-indulgence seem to be what most people choose when left to make their own decisions. Now as long as they are left to pay for the consequences of that all on their own, then that is fine with me. But they don't. They fill up the emergency rooms, default on their loans and sue and sue...so I end up paying more for everything in the end.

TM says "The less money the government spends, the more money they have to pay off our nation's debt. The less debt we have, the better our economy runs. The better our economy is, the better our job availablity is...They are eliminating waste. Less waste = more efficiency. It's not that difficult to understand.

So does that mean you want to cut waste from defense spending? Oh, wait, that can't be touched. Hmmm, what about wasteful tax subsidies that are doing absolutely nothing for the average American. See, TM, you can try to make it seem so easy, lets cut this, lets cut that, and we're golden. The problem is, politicians have agendas. If all the cards were on the table, progress could be made. But when politicians hold on to cards because their buddies are defense contractors, green energy advocates, big oil monopolies, unions, etc, we're never going to get anywhere.

Sarah Palin is just not a literate person, so stop trying to understand what she is saying.

It is jibberish.

And she will not be the next President of the United States so why does the MSM follow her everywhere and report on her every unintelligble utterance?

The media is absolutely out of control!

Sarah needs to put up or shut up. Is she running or not? But then again, she lacks substance.

hell ya' romney needs to be proud of what he has accomplished. he is a republican i can understand.

Marty you claim that you're an "independant that will vote for all democratic candidates". No, that means you're a Democrat since you've made your mind up a year and a half before the election.

Marty, I think some Republicans do seek information, it's just that facts are NOT on their side so they choose to ignore not only the experts, but their own common sense as well, and go for whatever they have in their "gut" which has never worked out well, not even once.

I wish you the best of luck with that one!!!!! Poor S.C. is being represented by complete morons with the exception of Jim Clyburn.

marty-2890428 - I do read her comments a few times. Not because I expect to learn anything from it, but I try to find her "slogans", like "Joe Six-pack". This round, I found "Independent American" particularly interesting. There's an intention behind her saying "Independent". We all know she's WAY far right of most independents, but in her mind, she thinks she's playing to the independent voters. So, we'll see how often she uses this term from here on out. My bet is many times.

notajudge-

You are so right on with that analysis.

My sentiments are that she is evil.

I am a staunch Progressive, but Governor Romney has a distinguished resume and it is a shame that he is being upstaged by the likes of Sarah Palin.

And the MSM is just going full-blown crazy over this woman who is borderline special needs. She babbles on most of the time without a comma or period so how does anybody know what she is talking about????

Pathetic.

Well said, anthony-1118394!!

i also find it funny how the crosshairs on the maps have disappeared ever sinse the Giffords shooting.........think mabey she realized the f**k up there ??? Ya think ???another presidential looking move huh ??? you Betcha !!!!

Bravo!

wish the woman would take some of her own advice especially in the lock and reload area she likes to talk about so much.....wish someone would put a lock on that off the wall trap of hers cause its gettin hella old.......