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Subscribe to RSSRomney TRIES to take center stage with presidential announcement from Stratham, NH at noon ET, but the small state is a bit crowded today… Per excerpts, Romney will focus on jobs and the economy and declare that “Barack Obama has failed America”… Contrasting Romney’s 2007 announcement from Michigan with today’s announcement from New Hampshire… The biggest question he faces (bigger than the one over health care): Who, exactly, is Mitt Romney?... He did pick a good week to talk about jobs and the economy… Is Palin stepping on Romney’s big day in New Hampshire?... Rudy Giuliani’s also in the Granite State… And the latest in the budget battle: Obama meets with House Democrats at 2:30 pm ET.
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Mitt Romney, the former Massachusetts Republican governor, is set to officially announce his run for president today from New Hampshire, a state he likely must win to get the nomination.
*** Romney takes center stage: For someone who's essentially been running for president for nearly six years, it isn't easy to escape the political limelight. But that is what Mitt Romney has largely done in the past few months, part by design and part by Sarah Palin and Donald Trump. But today, Romney attempts to take center stage in New Hampshire -- well, at least until Palin also shows up in the state (more on that below). At noon ET, the apparent front-runner for the Republican nomination formally announces his presidential bid at a farm in Stratham, NH. His message will be the same one he’s discussed over the past year: jobs and the economy. Per a Romney aide, he’ll also talk about the importance of limited government, cutting the debt, and leadership in the world. Team Romney promises it will be a serious speech and will have an optimistic vision and tone.
*** “Obama has failed America”: But the thrust of Romney’s announcement today, at least according to advanced excerpts of his speech, will be a full-throated denunciation of Barack Obama’s presidency. “A few years ago, Americans did something that was, actually, very much the sort of thing Americans like to do: We gave someone new a chance to lead; someone we hadn't known for very long, who didn't have much of a record but promised to lead us to a better place,” Romney is expected to say. “Now, in the third year of his four-year term, we have more than promises and slogans to go by. Barack Obama has failed America.” More Romney: “Government under President Obama has grown to consume almost 40% of our economy. We are only inches away from ceasing to be a free market economy. I will cap federal spending at 20% or less of the GDP and finally, finally balance the budget. My generation will pass the torch to the next generation, not a bill.”
*** Dearborn 2007 vs. Stratham 2011: Of course, this isn't the first time Romney has formally announced a presidential bid. Four years ago, it was in Michigan (his original home state), where the backdrop consisted of automotive innovations (and where he walked out to Billy Ocean's "Get Outta My Dreams, Get Into My Car"). This time, it's at a picnic/barbeque in New Hampshire (what's become an adopted home state). Four years ago, Romney was wearing a suit and a tie. This time, he'll likely keep his more casual look. And four years ago, the message was heavy on social conservatism (stressing the importance of family, the sanctity of human life, and securing the borders). This time, it will be about his background and Barack Obama. Here's Romney's biggest question, and it's bigger than the individual mandate: Who, exactly, is Romney? Is he the liberal Republican who supported abortion rights in 1994? Is he the pragmatist who got elected governor of Massachusetts and signed one of the most famous health-care laws in the land? Is he the social conservative who went all-in in Iowa but failed to win? Or is he business executive with unrelenting criticism at the Obama administration?
*** Who is Mitt Romney? The Democratic National Committee seizes on this question in a Web video, which concludes: “Same candidate. Different positions -- again.” (An irony to consider: If Obama were to give a speech announcing his re-election campaign, he’d probably do it from an automotive museum in Michigan…about the only thing right now the administration feels comfortable touting in this fragile economic environment.)
*** Romney picked a good week to talk about the economy: What if Romney had delivered today’s speech -- focused on the economy and his business background -- four years ago? We don’t know the answer to that question. But we do know that of any week to base a presidential candidacy on the economy, this is a good one. Just take a look at some of today’s headlines. The Washington Post: “Manufacturing slowdown the latest sign the recovery is faltering.” The New York Times: “Employment Data May Be the Key to the President’s Job.” The Chicago Tribune: For many families across Chicago, recession’s grip hasn’t eased.” The recent spate of economic numbers (tepid 1st quarter growth, falling home prices, lower manufacturing) is either a macroeconomic bump in the road -- due to the high gas prices and the troubles in Japan. Or it’s the first sign of serious economic worries. Remember, it was just a year ago when the BP spill and the Greek debt crisis sent the U.S. economy back into a tailspin for much of the rest of 2010.
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Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin (R) tours the Statue of Liberty in New York yesterday on another leg of her bus tour.
*** Is Palin stepping on Romney’s big day? Intentionally or not, the fact that Palin also is expected to make her way to New Hampshire today is a slap at the apparent GOP front-runner. Of all days to come to the Granite State, why did she pick today’s Romney announcement, the news of which was released a week ago? That she’s not even giving him a 24-hour news cycle to make his case is a subtle sign that Romney has yet to unite the party, as well as a reminder that she could be a thorn in the GOP establishment’s side. That said, Team Romney is welcoming Palin’s New Hampshire stop with open arms. “Anything that gets folks pumped up and reminds them of what the country is all about is great by us,” a Romney aide tells First Read. “Gov. Romney is running as an alternative to President Obama and the way he's poorly handled the economy and unemployment, and Palin brings energy and passion and reminds folks it doesn't have to be this way.”
*** The fragile front-runner: Still, Palin is the actual physical evidence that Romney, while the front-runner, is fragile. But history suggests Romney will be the nominee -- not since Goldwater in '64 has the party nominated someone who had never RUN for president before or wasn't the incumbent (Ford) or wasn't the son of a former president (Dubya). And that's why what Palin is doing to Romney today is potentially so damaging. It doesn't give him even a day to have a clean shot on the most important day of any presidential campaign: announcement day.
*** Rudy, Rudy, Rudy: Palin isn’t the only other Republican who will be in New Hampshire today. At 6:00 pm ET, Rudy Giuliani headlines a state GOP dinner in Dover.
*** The budget battle: The day after meeting with House Republicans, President Obama today sits down with the House Democratic caucus at 2:30 pm ET to discuss the debt ceiling and other issues. Per the New York Times, House Speaker John Boehner said he’d like to reach a deal on raising the debt ceiling in the next month, and wants the president to play a bigger role in the negotiations. One possible compromise we’ve heard: The White House and Republicans would agree to a one-year deal raising the ceiling and cutting spending, and let the 2012 election decide the larger debate about long-term spending cuts and long-term tax increases as a result of some sort of "trigger." This could be an attempt to de-link the Biden talks from the debt ceiling.
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Heard this morning that the "Huck" and the "Donald" are reconsidering. Trump 2012 bumper sticker may have to go back in the car window.
Every single republican candidate is a complete joke.
And just think, Obama will be beaten by a complete joke.
You just keep believing that buddy.
And what we have at the present time, is just wonderfull I guess, all you people have have no Idea what your talking about nearly 3 yr's now and no change yet except what the government has lyed to you about, even my 6 yr.old granddaughter has enough sense to see that, and what do we have is clown's like you tell us that their is no other answer but Obama.Well I say BS.
Feisty & US Navy Guy.....Thank you.....finally and after weeks of asking....your ever evasive answers here spoke volumes and confirmed my suspicions! Remember 11/2/10 (hint: "THE GREAT SHELLACKING"?) Get ready to be humbled once again.......all your high powered and well supported rhetoric will not help Obama and the Democrat Party.
always,
I suspect your faith is not so much in the teachings of Jesus Christ but you have more faith in the far right talking points and teachings from your favorite opiniontaiment entertainer on "dumb FUX NEWS". I'm guessing you're around 50 yrs old, white, have little on no college education and are overweight.
srfnsnw100 - Wow.....you must be psychic...kind of...the only problem is.....your wrong.....on all points....try again....that should keep you busy for the rest of the day.....it sure beats focusing on things like why the stock market dropped 279 points in one day yesterday and the worst drop in a year....doesn't it?
alwaysfaithfull, actually "the great shellacking" was the 2008 presidential election when Barack Hussein Obama stomped the crap out of the republicans 365 electoral votes to 173 electoral votes and and record setting 70 million popular votes....looking forward to stomping you again in 2012 LOL.
beerjoust......Uh....The "Shellacking" description is an Obama quote the day after 11/2/10....along with "I got the message"....and "I promise to do better"......
alwaysfaithfull....Uh....yeah I got that. I don't have to be told what to think, unlike the republitards.
beerjoust - keep up the name calling......it's the true way of the Democratic Party beginning with the very first post on this board and every single day......it reflects your limitations.
You are correct about these's people, all they seem to think about is what party is in charge, they apparently just don't give a dam about the country, which is what I thought this was all about, it"s the country that this sliding into hell and all these's people can think of is this half black president that they voted for, these's people need their tails kicked until their noses bleed. What I find really offensive is US Navy Retired, being involved in any of this, are we sure that he was retired or was his discharge less than honerable, I think the latter, I know of no fighting man with this attitude.
Gary-3415022
Do you not know that "fighting men" come complete with all sorts of varying attitudes?
You may want to broaden your horizons a bit.
You do not know USNR and you have zero right to question either his service or his discharge status based on what you "think".
Thanks for your time
So this is who the Liberal Propaganda machine is trying to dupe everyone into picking to run against the Obomanation. There are other candidates, even a black guy but where is your reporting on them? When will you wake the fk up, it doesn't matter who runs against Obama, they will win. You are deluding yourselves if you think the majority of America still listens to your so called reporting. Have you checked your latest viewing numbers, takes all three networks to almost reach the number of Fox viewers..now how could that be?
Ridgelon - You nailed it!.....welcome to the NBC/DNC Forum!.......where the same two people always have the first post to kind of set the Dermocratic Party Line tone for the day.....it's really somewhat amazing to just watch! They pretend 11/2/10 never happened!
Ridgelon,
That's it, that's your point? Dumb FUX NEWS is more popular so it's better?
A recent study shows that being overweight can hinder cognitive ability. Our education system is the worst of all the industrialized nations. Higher education is out of reach for most middle class families.
Great FOX is popular but then so is porn...
Always and Ridgelon, don't let yourselves get too worked up over this. I have a feeling you are going to be very disappointed come Nov 2012. I will not be voting for Obama but I don't see any chance of him losing his position right now.
srfnsnw100, you nailed it. Supposedly NASCAR is popular too... and that rots your brain just like Faux News.
Ridgelon.....and don 't you just love the way they all gang up on you! Ha! Ha! Ha!.....it's like someone threw a piece of cheese in a hamster cage! Ha!Ha!Ha! By the way, Brent-independent....do you know why the stock market dropped 279 points yesterday or why we are in a double dip recession?.......oh yeah.....sorry....I remember now.....LET'S BLAME BUSH!.......LET'S BLAME BUSH......LET'S BLAME BUSH!....there....all better now.....next problem!
alwaysfaithfull, like I said, look forward to stopming you in 2012...and you know it's true.
by the way have you looked at your republitard "done nothing"congressional approval rating? It's low, in fact the lowest ever...ever...for any congress....ever. LOL
So you say that FOX has more viewers and that has some kind of meaning as to the content? The last time I tuned in to FOX I was lucky enough to catch Glenn Beck during one of his near breakdown moments.....any network that would put a madman like him on the air is a case against the First Amendment.
Remember that most Germans backed Hitler, did that make them right ? More is not always better.
beerjoust.....keep dreaming and try real hard to block out the Democartic nightmare of just 7 very short months ago (11/2/0) now that our economy is sooooooo much improved.
always - I'd love to say I understand how any of that actually works but I do not. I do not blame Bush though. However, I do think he was an awful president. He and Obama are ranking the highest up on my list of Presidents I think have done a bad job. (Well, to be honest they are the only two on my list). >.o
Brent - That is probably the first honest and unbiased comment (and without an agenda like two of the "pro's" who are posting 1st and 2nd position here every single day) that I have ever heard on this board yet. It is refreshing and thank you!
I also concur!
"President Obama has failed America!!!"
Oh, Mitt, don't let your magic underwear bunch up on you like that.
q
"And that's why what Palin is doing to Romney today is potentially so damaging."
Sarah Palin is traveling in a bus...why is she damaging Mitt Romney?
Expect this type of over the top dramatization of the race for the GOP nomination by the official network of the moonbat Left, MSNBC.
Whether it is reality or not, MSNBC First Read will breathlessly report a soap opera of daily crisis for the GOP candidates. Meanwhile, all will be peaches and cream in the Obama camp, per the MSNBC propaganda machine .
And FOX doesn't do the same to the Democrats? How can either side attempt to justify themselves?
FOX had Palin swooping in like a godess on angels wings in their article about he crashing the Rolling Thunder ride. So please spare the MSNBC is evil while omitting any right leaning news source. Both do it. Accept it and move on.
Bob, you're not paying attention if you think things in these campaigns just happen by happenstance. Of course she's flirting with the press on his announcement day. By the way, Guilliani is speaking tonight in New Hampshire as well. Personally, I don't think Guilliani is running. I think his sole motivation is to step on the Mittster. The animosity between those two is pretty widely known.
Why do you think these Republicans waited this long? After all, four years ago we already had a round of first-quarter fundraising numbers to compare. Why would the Republicans wait longer?
Because every market analyst I know of was saying the first half of 2011 ought to be good for U.S. companies, but the second half looks risky. That was being said back in last December. All these guys know the verbal garbage that goes back and forth only has so much effect on the election, and basically its a race for the president to make the case the economy is getting better versus a challenger to make the case the economy isn't. So of course the side that is hoping for a little down economy time is going to wait until the economy is a little more likely to actually be down.
Anyone see The Daily Show's John Oliver with Sarah Palin? He said "Your bus is such a great metaphor for your campaign. It's a flag-draped monstrosity that lacks direction." She let her temper flare as it does when she is challenged in any way, replying "That's such a stupid thing to say! We have a clear direction!"
No smiles or "doncha knows" were given that day.
NYMike
And FOX doesn't do the same to the Democrats? How can either side attempt to justify themselves?
NYMike,
Faux News has republican political operatives like Karl Rove on the pay roll. They have republican candidate hopefuls asking for donations on the "news". That doesn't happen on actual news programs.
It's also worth noting that only Fox went to court to establish their right to spread misinformation while publicly representing it as fact.
White Trash Momma comes to town.
A ticket of Mitt Romney and Herman Cain can beat anything the Democrats put out there unless they can resurrect FDR or JFK. Gas is going to go to $5.00 a gallon. Unemployment will not get under 8.5%. We need leaders that can, and know how, to create jobs in the private sector. Not some hocus pocus babbling bull$hit about "save and create" and "future green energy jobs."
Mighty bold talk for the minority party.
How are private sector jobs going to come back when 2% of the population own 90% of the wealth???
The GOP's war on the middle class has been victorious and now there is not enough middle class people to buy all the stuff companies need to keep selling...
Running America like a business has been it's downfall...
Gas should go to $5.00 a gallon, then we might get serious about conserving it.
We'll see. Barrack Obama and the Democratic Party sure as hell haven't been a success story. Most people remember having jobs under George H.W. Bush, William Jefferson Clinton, and George W. Bush. They're going to remember the Obama administration, also. People vote with their wallets. Politicians make promises and run on their records. I could give a $hit less about Romney and Cain's promises, but their records are impressive. How impressive is Obama's. The minority party issue can, and likely will, change with the next election. The Republicans have the Congress, and if the Democrats in the Senate continue to support Obama's failed policies, they're gone, too. They know it. That's why a lot of them keep jumping ship, like on the ' CAP AND TRADE" Issue, and Immigration. Which is a good thing. If they don't support bad policy, I don't care what Party they're in.
"Barack". It's hard to take someone seriously who can't spell the name of the President of the United States, something a third grader can do.
Herman Cain has never run for, nor held any political office. He can't run a successful Presidential campaign without knowing how to run one. He also made a huge blunder the other day. He admonished people for not reading the Consitution, saying that it guarantees "life liberty and the pursuit of happiness" and also tells us that when a government abuses its power that we have the right to stand against it.
Oops! Those are from the Declaration of Independence, which has no legal signifiance but is merely a statement of intent to seek liberty from England. A normal American might make that mistake, but when you're running for President and claiming to have read the Consitution, you look like a very ignorant fool.
http://www.politifact.com/georgia/statements/2011/may/25/herman-cain/cain-mistakes-declaration-independence-language-co/
On another subject: after seeing how the Tea Party feels about having a black President, does anyone think they would really pull the lever for Cain?
Ron-374386
A ticket of Mitt Romney and Herman Cain can beat anything the Democrats put out there unless they can resurrect FDR or JFK. Gas is going to go to $5.00 a gallon. Unemployment will not get under 8.5%. We need leaders that can, and know how, to create jobs in the private sector. Not some hocus pocus babbling bull$hit about "save and create" and "future green energy jobs."
Think Again
Mitt is the front runner @ 17%
Cain @ 8%
No matter what clown the GOP/T-Baggers put up President Barack Obama is unbeatable; even though you suckers are swallowing the economy is bad meme.
The American public is awake and sees the impediment the water bearers in the Republican and DINO did/are doing.
You mean like George Bush Sr or Ronald Reagan or George Bush Jr, non of whom created jobs. And in the case of both Reagan and Bush Sr, stopped recessions and helped the economy, but only for the top 2%, the rest of the economy, the middle class part, was flat during their administrations.
srfnsnw100, that's just the problem, you poor misguided person, this country has not been run by business men, it's been run by politician's, politician's have alway's been the down fall of this country, they create problem's and then they run against them, if you can't figuare that out my friend please do all of us a favor and stay away from the poll's at the next election.
Well let me ask you a question then clotho, did he get the right number of state's if that comment ever came up, because it's for sure your president didn't, are you going to nit pick every spelling, as well because that sure will help us in our quest to put this country back on it's feet, that the trouble with people like you trying to be PC and not trying to come up with solution's to the problem, you are the problem.
There will always be the rich and there will always be the poor. That is history and that is the future. The rich are made up of those who inherit it or those who worked hard for it. The poor are made up of those who were born into it or who chose to remain that way. Entitlement has no place in a democracy and the opportunity of living in a democracy affords everyone the chance to achieve what ever level they want to work for. We can blame politicians, parties, races, religions, etc. but we honestly can only blame ourselves for what we have or don't have. We can start with votes for those we feel condident in trusting our country decision to and do it on an individual basis not because of party, race, religion or union and not for entitlements! I "love" that free thinking person who makes the general comments about a group that "sucks"; now that gives a great example of the people who can't think for themselves. Go figure!
"The rich are made up of those who inherit it or those who worked hard for it. The poor are made up of those who were born into it or who chose to remain that way."
Rarely do we see the Big Lie stated so clearly. This is what the conservatives like to think, that rich people worked hard to get that way; and conversely, if you're poor it's because you're lazy. This is why books like "Atlas Shrugged" don't work in real life. In reality, people often work extremely hard and do not get rich. In contrast, CEOs are often lazy or lack any particular abilities, but inherit their positions through family or good cocktail party skills. Did you get a 13% raise in 2010? CEOs did, on average. Have you ever talked to actual CEOs? They are generally not particularly smart or hard-working, but pretty much like everyone else.
The Big Lie becomes obvious during a Great Recession. Does anyone think the only reason we have almost 9% unemployment is because almost 1 in 10 people are too lazy to find a job? All poor people "choose to remain that way"? Of course not, there simply are not enough jobs.
This also explains why conservatives care nothing for the working poor. They teach that poor people are that way through their own fault, and probably do drugs, so why should anyone help them? I know it's unbelievable to think that people believe the Big Lie, since 98% of Americans are not rich. Why do they vote Republican and therefore against their own interests? I suspect it's because they believe someday they will get to that top 2% through sheer hard work and dedication.
Or by chance maybe they believe that if they find a way to redistribute wealth they won't have to worry about working to get ahead, you don't know much about poor people do you,clotho.
Until our politicians get together and decide to do what is good for our country as a whole, with accountability upon their part, I do not believe it will ever matter who we elect.
Dgibb - If more people would start realizing that, instead of playing this two party systems, this side blaming that side, that side blaming this side, broken political bullsh#t game, things could actually get better for every American.
We need to get our government back to representing us and force them to be accountable for what they are actually doing.
Of course I don't have any real answers as to how to accomplish that but we need to do something to make a REAL change before it's too late.
How right you are, politician's are the problem and alway's have been, as I have said in the past they create the problem's and then run against them quite smart on their part don't you think?
A common sense approach to a budget shortfall in a typical family:
The husband and wife try to increase earnings (work overtime, take part-time job), decrease spending (cut out non-essential spending such as dinners out, expensive vacations, maybe downsize a car, sell the boat, refinance the mortgage). Keep up with the childrens medical needs, keep them in school, maintain essential things like food, shelter, utilities.
The Republican approach to the same situation:
The husband and wife go from full-time empoyment to part-time, cutting their income by 50%. They take the children out of school and drop their medical coverage as well. The husband upgrades his boat from a 25 footer to a wompus 40 footer and puts in on his credit card at 15% interest. They call their parents and tell them they can all visit them this summer if the parents pay for the airfares. Once they get to the parents home the husband and wife complain about how the Democrats have ruined the economy.
okwhynot, Damn you're dumb. To group people like that is just plain wrong. A majority of the people in this country have similar goals and values for themselves and their families. They disagree on how to get there, but the goals are similar. This country is far and away the strongest economy in the world. We have a 14 trillion dollar economy. China is next with a 7 trillion dollar economy and 5 times as many people. We won't stay that way if we get a lot of people that think like you.
okwhynot, I think you have that reversed and you forgot to add that they expect entittlments. Democrats are the ones spending and increasing the number of goverment employees. "FA" Michelle has 146 employees just to wait on her; that is more than the Queen! The Obamas are taking the vacations and traveling to other countries for ???????? My guess is that you are a "die hard" democrat who would vote for the devil if he were running on the democratic ticket. This is what is wrong with the US today and pointed out by the rest of the world how idiotic we are with an inept president.
You know all these's people get on here and comment, for what purpose I haven't a clue, they all have the answer's but still I see no change in the economy, no change in the unempolyment number's no change in the general attitude of this country, no change in the housing market no change in the manufacturing of this country no change in the dollar value, only the thought that we will raise the debt celling, which will do nothing more than open the door to more spending that we can not afford, and to the last one every one of you see nothing wrong with Obama, well if that is the case why have him in office at all, not that he does anything any way except fly around in Air Force One peaking out the window and waving to the people, that really can't aford the time to see him waving because they are on their way to their 4th shift at Mc Donald,s. Is this what were about put on blinder's and march forward? is this even the USA any more or has Obama ended that for us as well, when do you think that that you that think so much about of your leadership will finally realize that Obama is not what he pretend's to be, let's get rid of this idiot and get some one in the White House that has some common sense, remember this is supposed to be your country as well.
More like, the 'Christian' right and the Republican party have trashed the country so badly there probably isn't any way to save it no matter who is elected in 2012.
It's deliberately obtuse to talk about Mitt getting center stage "if Palin will let him," as if the amount of media space that she is given is somehow beyond the media's control. The real line should be "Mitt gets center stage if media decides to cover an actual candidate for the nomination instead of chasing after the flavor of the week."
Romney sez:
What a total crock of bull@!$%#. It is easy to make these claims when the delivery date is years down the pike and the pontificator has yet to be saddled with that responsibility. We are not as yet stable enough economically to take such a hit yet Tea Baggers and candidates wanting the conservative nomination are expecting them NOW. The consequences would be disastrous yet all that will be remembered from Romney's pandering is "20% of GDP" and "balance the budget." Good luck with the belief that we can simply "cut" our way into prosperity. It can't be done. Most of these hacks are of the opinion that not funding a problem will make the problem go away. Unless we pair spending cuts with revenue increases, we will do well to merely tread water.
Its amazing how Weiners w.... took all the thunder from Palin and Romney. Can they guys bit the Weiners w.... in popularity ? I seriously doubt it.
If Palin helps derail Romney, it will be the first positive contribution she's made to this campaign!
Romney is the last person who should be talking about jobs. During his tenure as Gov, Mass constantly underperformed with job growth. I want to say it was something like .9%. One year it was 49th another time 46th. So, he needs to pipe down a bit on that.
Its amazing to me that the peoples views on this blog in favor of Obama are so idiotic. You all who are in favor of him obviously voted for him in this Presidential election with the promise of change. You all wanted change, yet now 3 years down the line when no change has been made you say things like "did you really think this countries situation could be changed in 3 years"? So let me get this straight, you elect a guy for change but then make excuses for him when there is no evidence of the changes he promised. Interesting, considering one of you said Republicans don't think for themselves.
Speaking of people not thinking for themselves why is it that Republicans are accused of this yet every news broadcasting station with the exception of Fox is liberal? hmmmmm wonder where people's source of knowledge is coming from, that really screams we think for ourselves, might want to re-think that statement.
To the scholar who so intelligently said and I quote "Republicans suck", wow I think that speech may go down along side Martin Luther King Jr, JFK, and the Pope. I am very much an Independent (even though I am making myself sounds like a far right conservative) and I am all for a good political debate, but saying stuff like that just makes you and the party your supporting sound idiotic, kind of like the peronwho was questioning who the two people worked for who were making points in favor of them Dems. At least they were trying to sound educated (even though its the same crap I heard all day yesterday on CNN and MSNBC).
As for subject of Mitt and Palin, or any other GOP candidate all I can say is I have no preference in any of them. I do know I am not in favor of an other 4 years of spiral downward with Obama, I am not ok with giving someone a chance and then having them fail to uphold their promises. I will say it shall be interesting to see the GOP race continue, I think there are a lot of good candidates (most under the radar at this point) that really have a chance. My advice to all you bashing the GOP at this point is shut your mouth and open your ears, actually listen to what these candidates have to say. Candidates haven't even started running full throttle yet and you already don't have enough common sense to listen,. The theory I'm a democrat and that's who I am voting for is ridiculous as well as the same opinion with republicans. Its time this country starts thinking for themselves on both sides of the isle.
One last note, I am tired of hearing about the middle class and poor, I am in the middle class, and have been on the poor side of things not long ago. Our country is in need of someone that wont let the lazy people live for free off the rest of our hard earned money, this will involving tightening down the boarders and restricting welfare. Its time people get off your their @$$ and do something about it. I don't care if it's flipping burgers at McDonalds, take back the job from the illegals and get dirty, so you can put food on your table because frankly I am tired of it, especially when the government tells me I have to (another reason Obamacare is a joke, supporting the lazy for free). I understand people fall on hard times but, more people abuse the system for a free ride.
This time lets elect someone who has ideas that are attainable and has a real chance at uniting this country so it can stand on its own two feet.
This budget that Romney is going to "finally" balance. Is that the same one that was balanced until George Bush came along?
There are 100 Senators and 435 State Reps. and Romney is trying to blame one man for the lousy state of the country. Maybe if congress could stop fighting amonst themselves we wouldn't be in this mess. They should stop trying to push their special interest/porkbelly projects and concentrate on fixing our national problems! I remember Romney as our MA. govenor and I wasn't too thrilled with his work then so I can't imagine he'd do a better job as president.
Judging from the quality of candidates in the race and those considering it, there is a very high probability that the GOP will have to draft a nominee that has at least a slim chance of being elected. Tea Baggers will not likely fall in line with a moderate as they would have to eat waaay too much crow, yet a hard right conservative will not get support from moderate Republicans or independents. I'd suspect that in the end, the RNC will make the decision on who gets the nomination due to the fractured party rank and file. The RNC also picked Palin for McCain, remember?
I said it before and most of the posts I read prove it...this is all just a game to most of the people I read posts from.You bunch of God damned idiots are killing america with subservience and stupidity. don't forget to tell your kids to tell their kids why they are paying for your screw ups. And no, this friggin clown isn't going to save the world either. He's another damned liar. Why Obama? because he's already there and there is nothing fit to replace him. THAT should be the message.
Obama pulled us out of a financial free fall. He headed an operation that killed Osama bin Laden. He got us on the road (though we still have a lot of adjustments to make) to having health care for all Americans. He improved America's global image.
I'm happy with his performance. The Republicans keep squawking about how awful things are but I don't see it. The biggest problem I see right now is the unequal distribution of wealth in our country and that has resulted from Republicab tax policies.
Siara: A 200+ drop in the stockmarket doesnt seem like a financial freefall to you? The constant rising costs of grocerys and gas doesnt seem like a financial freefall to you? The U.S. military and the NAVY SEALS headed the operation of taking out bin laden. Why should someone that has worked hard and made themselves wealthy be expected to "distribute" thier wealth amongst those that complain about not having any money?
Not relative to what was happening in the end of 2008.
Distribution of wealth??? Love it when a liberal uses that term and says it's unequal. This country distributes it's wealth in large amounts.
Government programs like "disaster relief" transfer wealth to people that have suffered loss due to a natural disaster. Social security transfers wealth from the young to the old. Fighting a war transfers wealth to certain sectors of society. Public education transfers wealth to families with children in public schools. Public road construction transfers wealth from people that do not use the roads to those people that do (and to those that build the roads).
having 40% not pay taxes, but recieve tax returns transfers wealth. The list goes on.
Like it or not, there is a limited amount of wealth which exists. That is to say, it is fixed in the short term. People who study short term issues see wealth as a zero sum game and concentrate on the distribution of wealth...
whereas people who study long term issues see wealth as a non-zero sum game and concentrate on wealth creation...
Other people put equal emphasis on both the creation and the distribution of wealth...
Are problem isn't a wealth distribution, but lack of creation...Especially Job Creation
Look at some graphs of wealth distribution in this country, WherHas. The rich have been getting greater and greater tax breaks for 30 years and the trickle down and job creation haven't happened. The facts speak for themselves. If a political philosophy doesn't work for 30 years... it doesn't work. "Trickle down" is a farce.
Not relative to 2008? Does that mean its not relative now? By the way, it has been relative ever since he took the white house. His administration hasnt secured anything yet. Spreading the wealth got mussolini beheaded. Does that seem to work?
"does that mean it's not relative to now?"..... it means that in 2008 my investments were going down the drain and now things are much more solid. Sorry BiteMe but there comes a point when reality speaks louder than wingnut rhetoric screamed at top volume.
Siara: I think you need to go back and read your original post. You are not making any sense nor have you been able to successfully argue any of your points. Your right about reality speaking louder than rhetoric, but you havent spoken any reality as of yet.
Trickle down may have helped if not for all the tax loop holes. This is definitely a policy that did not produce the expected results and as an Economist I agree with that. But to go back to your original assumption of what distribution of wealth is unbalanced and the answer to our troubled economy.
Regardless of whether one defines wealth as the sum total of all currency, the money supply, or a broader measure which includes money, securities, and property, the supply of wealth, while limited, is not fixed. You have to understand this fundamental principle to understand the economics behind it. Regardless if we took every penny every rich person has, it still will not be enough. Then what will we do if we drain the well? It's simply not the answer. There however, is room for people to gain wealth without taking from others, and wealth is not a zero-sum game in the long term. Many things can affect the creation and destruction of wealth including size of the work force, production efficiency, available resource endowments, inventions, innovations, and availability of capital.
Different societies have different opinions about wealth distribution and about the obligations related to wealth, but from the era of the tribal society to the modern era, there have been means of moderating the acquisition and use of wealth. We are not doing this today. We are outspending and putting enormous debt on our wealth. No economy can survive on this model.
Simply put, there's not enough wealth to distribute. The distribution of wealth is not the answer to a striving economy. What it does is turns ability into a liability and need into an asset...That is unproductive and unmanageable. Again, it's creation. Get people to work at this economy will soar.
QUOTE: "Regardless if we took every penny every rich person has, it still will not be enough."
It would sure as hell be a start.
Who get's left out...Anyone you willing to leave off the money train, because remember there would be no more if we took it all???
And remember, we would have to redistribute some of that money back to the people we took it form because then they too would be without...
The "money train" is the insane profits that management is making off the work of the rest of us.
to Biteme...
BITE ME!!
I think you need to learn some manners.
Just because you are a troll who likes to cover posts does not mean that the opinion and comment that Siara originally wrote does not make sense.
You speak like someone with a trust fund. Do you have one??