So much for that huh?

Take from the little guys.... and give to the big guys, literally.

He's rationing the amount of tissue paper available to public schools... and then rides in helicopter to sons game.... having the helicopter for the state is not an issue... afterall the police need it to fight crime.... and I wont question that..., but what I question is his judgement - if he wants to be a fiscal conservative politician, symbolism matters... and I give this man an F, in that department. Where is his judgment on this issue.

What was he thinking? Oh, he wasn't thinking! Maybe he didn't think anyone would notice. Now it looks like the whole country has noticed. And Iowa would like him to run for President. What are they thinking?

Feisty, it is so easy for these clowns to be a 'fiscal conservative' when the cuts don't apply to you and yours.

I GOT MINE, F**K U comes to mind. It must make a GOP/TPr very proud.

Feisty---you are making the serious mistake of overlooking Gov. Christie's devotion to family values----it was critical that he see 5 innings of his son's baseball game, regardless of the cost to the taxpayers of NJ. Of course, not so critical that he see the last 4 innings---he had that important political dinner to attend.

At least John Edwards paid for his own haircuts. Sheesh.

What about $500 mILLION the New Jersey Supreme court says Gov Dough Boy has to pay back to the poorest educational districts?

Like Tunde says take from the little guys and give to the big guys. I bet Cristie bought a lot of donuts too.

Ah, it's that old family values versus fiscal sanity struggle for the Christie Creme GOV.

Hasn't he heard his state is BROKE?

The seventh inning stretch was the perfect time for the helicopter to interrupt the game play.

Ting-a-ling! (a note of sarcasm)

Choices. We all have to live with our choices.

Until someone stops him, Christie lives quite comfortably with his choices.

Governor Christie Creme LOL Missy.

Wouldn't it be great to brand him Christie Creme? Didn't Krispy Kreme go bankrupt or something like that?

Here's a hint BrianB!

Nancy Pelosi was Speaker of the House, thus, making her third in line to the Presidency!

There was national security involved!

Governor Christie Creme is a two big thug, who likes to talk the talk WHO can only waddle the walk!

That guy, Christie, is simply an epitome of JA WAGONS. he's a typical conservative republican. they make the most noise hence he flew in an helicopter to his son's game. he's got to be noticed one way or the other either for his size or his landing. i hope he runs.......

Yeah...can you say Nancy Peolsi?

Nancy Pelosi was Speaker of the House, thus, making her third in line to the Presidency!

There was national security involved!

Oh, please. To visit her grandchildren?

And somewhere in NJ, a teacher or a Camden cop is wondering why they got laid off due to state budget cuts.

He will fry space shuttle if elected President of the USA...

Truth debunking the Nancy Pelosi jet rumor.

Guess you guys are wrong as usual.

factcheck.org/2008/12/nancy-pelosis-personal-jet/

Thanks for the link,

jobart

jobart, winning.

Compared to odumbo,

PSSST - you forgot 'teleprompter'...

NO check for you! lol

He couldn't even walk 100 yards to the field, he should have at least walked. Sure likes he could use the exercise. For pete's sake, Christie, pull your pants down just a little bit, they're almost to your chest.

Looks like the Governor could use a little exercise. Unbelievable!

These politicians don't get it! Did he think no one would notice or that he is above criticism?

I think the point Feisty is trying to make is that the conservatives are all about cutting spending of tax-payer funds...and here Gov. Christie is blatantly, and apparently brazenly, doing exactly the kind of thing his party accuses the libs of doing!! Hypocrisy runs rampant on the right side of the aisle!! It's they who want to slash funding to Medicare, to even do away with it altogether, putting seniors' health at risk....yet they seem to have no qualms about having the taxpayers pay for their helicopter rides to their sons' baseball games!

Can you imagine the fuel that engine drank up and the strain on the rotors just to lift that guy up?? Holy crap!! They probably had to put a new rotor motor in the 'copter after that round trip!! LOL

"If the Speaker of the House Boehner used a commandeered airplane the same way as princess Pelosi did, you'd be one of the first screaming injustice."

No, we wouldn't. Speaker of the House is 3rd in line to the Presidency. We don't expect them to fly business class on an American Airlines flight from Dulles to wherever they live.

It's a security issue. The same security issue when Newt Gingrich was speaker and when Dennis Hastert was speaker.

Brianb-999431

How cute! The liberal hypocrites are spewing more of their slanderous foam. Never a mention of how Nancy Pelosi commandeered a government jet for her jaunts across the nation everytime she wanted to take a trip. That's OK though... she's a democrat and completely exempt from liberal spewing.

How come I NEVER heard from the faux-righteous liberals on how Pelosi wasted money to the tune of millions. A republican using a helicopter is taboo though! In the mind of liberals!

I guess you only started to follow politics and the actions of the SOH since Pelosi? Good ol Denny Hastert (SOH before Pelosi) abused this as well...but Denny was flying to South Pacific Marianas regularly for some underage female fun as well as ENABLING SEX SLAVERY since 1995, in exchange for lobbyist kickback donations. Thankfully that piece of crap stepped down on his own.

All the SOH have a plane that will fly them where ever and whenever. When your 3rd in line to the Whitehouse, this is your perk.

I am not a Liberal Leftist or Facist Right party member, as I personally think those that strictly follow party lines are complete Lemmings. I am a centralist! You can't run this country solely from one extereme side of a party. So when you go after Pelosi, pull in the other SOH's of our past in both parties and you will see they all have done what you are solely blaming all on Pelosi as if it never happened prior!

Typical Republican/TeaParty/Regressive comment - But Momma they did it too!

Is this the same Chris Chrisitie that has a bumper sticker on his car that says "honk if you have groceries"? The same Chris Christie who's blood-type is 'Ragu'? The same one who, when asked by the waitress for his drink order, said 'gravy'??

If the Speaker of the House Boehner used a commandeered airplane the same way as princess Pelosi did, you'd be one of the first screaming injustice.

Pelosi never "commandeered" an airplane. Where do you come up with this crap? Are you the village idiot or just filling in for the day?

Bone head has a jet to fly when he wants. Just like Pelosi he is ordered to because of 3d in line. Pelosi never ask for the jet. God you righties lie and make it up as you go.

Federalist - No, I've been watching and following politics for many years. The only reason I brought out Pelosi was because of the hypocracy of the liberals. They only attack republicans and conservatives. They do it without any thought of the actions of liberals and democrats. In otherwords, they think their $hit don't stink.

I'm fully aware that SOH's all use military aircraft... but in Pelosi's case she would use them extravagantly while trying to hide it. I'm sure others have done the same. The hypocracy evolves from them pointing fingers while at the same time ignoring what those of the same ideology does in the same manner. I would like to simply say STFU, but doing so wouldn't bring out their rage and their hate filled rants. I do find them most enjoyable because the rants bring forth their colors so brightly.

Gotta love the double standards of FR libs... lmao!

Brianb-999431

The hypocracy evolves from them pointing fingers while at the same time ignoring what those of the same ideology does in the same manner. I would like to simply say STFU, but doing so wouldn't bring out their rage and their hate filled rants. I do find them most enjoyable because the rants bring forth their colors so brightly.

What color is that egg on your face? You should to look stupid.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi did not request a larger plane for personal use to travel cross-country without stopping, Bill Livingood, the House sergeant at arms, said.

Livingood said the request was his, and he made it for security reasons.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/pelosi/jet.asp

Gov. Crispy Creme used the copter for his son. Also, I heard the copter had it a difficult time taking off

Daryl - Good one! I like your list:

How to be a Republican:

Scream about gay rights, then get a cabana boy and toe tap in rest rooms.

Scream about family values while your wife is dying of cancer and your girlfriend is demanding more of your time.

Scream about state's rights, and then pass national legislation stopping states from doing what you disapprove of.

Scream about individual rights, then take away those rights with the Patriot Act.

In other words, scream so that nobody can see you doing all those things you stand in opposition to. If you get good at it, start your own party and give it a faux patriotic name.

I also like this list:

How to be a Democrat:

Support gay rights, then get a cabana boy and toe tap in rest rooms.

Have a love child with another woman as you spend campaign funds while your wife is dying of cancer and your girlfriend is demanding more of your time. (Edwards)

Forget about state's rights, and then pass national legislation forcing what you dictate to them.

Keep forgetting about individual rights, then take away those rights by extending the Patriot Act.

In other words, hide what you do so nobody can see you doing all those things you want to force down everyone's throat. Since you are so good at it, start denouncing all that oppose it by calling them names and lie about it.

Right, american. Because the governor of a state is just as important as the person two heartbeats away from the Presidency...

I don't care which party the Speaker of the House is from - they're not going to be able to just book a flight on a commercial aircraft. The House Sergeant-At-Arms and probably the U.S. Secret Service would have a coronary. And as I recall, Boehner said he would reject the security measure. How'd that work out for him?

I'm fully aware that SOH's all use military aircraft... but in Pelosi's case she would use them extravagantly while trying to hide it.

So cite ONE credible source that backs your accusation up....just one! It's BS and you know it, but you are so busy trying to make a point you apparently don't care if your comments are factual or not. You're just a flamethrower, nothing more.

He ought to practice what he preaches. He's a do as I say, not as I do guy.

Beverly said: What color is that egg on your face?

Why, Beverly, there is no egg on my face. Did Pelosi use that plane, or not? Doesn't she have the authority to override the sergeant at arms? I thought the chain of command was a little more spelled out for you. If Pelosi didn't want to use that plane, she had all authority to stop it.

Your little ruse didn't work Beverly. Nice try though. Pelosi chose to ride that plane without anyone forcing her to. She loved every minute of it and it made her self-indulgent ego that much more important in her own mind.

Support gay rights, then get a cabana boy and toe tap in rest rooms.

Much better to be like Larry Craig, gay bash and then do the toe tap in the airport bathroom.

Have a love child with another woman as you spend campaign funds while your wife is dying of cancer and your girlfriend is demanding more of your time. (Edwards)

Much better to just divorce your cancer stricken wife like Newt did while his wife was fighting the illness.

Forget about state's rights, and then pass national legislation forcing what you dictate to them.

Be like Texas, bitch about the role of govt and then whine when the disaster hits and your state doesn't get disaster relief money quick enough.

Keep forgetting about individual rights, then take away those rights by extending the Patriot Act.

Let's remember just who crafted the patriot act, and what exactly is your position on abortion rights, or just keep the govt out of my life unless it conflicts with my religious fanaticism...

Draino said: So cite ONE credible source that backs your accusation up....just one! It's BS and you know it, but you are so busy trying to make a point you apparently don't care if your comments are factual or not. You're just a flamethrower, nothing more.

It wouldn't matter what source I cited Draino. You wouldn't accept it anyway. The only sources you accept are from Politifact.com, The Huffington Post and any number of liberal blogs. Unfortunately the source wouldn't be from any of those liberal bastions.

I'm a flamethrower? You must not read the posts on FR. No, wait! You read them and find them totally acceptable because they feed your liberal ego. That's why I love coming here... to throw my flames! ROFL! Somehow logic defys you.

...and yet you still didn't name one credible source.....just rambled on with your useless rant.

"If Pelosi didn't want to use that plane, she had all authority to stop it."

Are you always this delusional, or is this a special occassion?

When it comes to matters of security for members of the House of Representatives, NO ONE has the authority to override the Sergeant-At-Arms. Just like the President does not have the authority to override the Secret Service when it comes to matters pertaining to his security.

Typical, the only conservative argument for this comment has been, "so, the other side does it too!"

Yea, we know. But you told us you were better than the other side. Apparently you agree your side is just as disgusting as the libs. Congrats, if that's what floats your boat.

Draino said: Let's remember just who crafted the patriot act, and what exactly is your position on abortion rights, or just keep the govt out of my life unless it conflicts with my religious fanaticism...

My gosh Draino - you are way to easy. Can't you do any better than this? I want real flames... real meaning. You really need to work on your talking points.

Does it really matter who crafted the Patriot Act? If it was so poorly crafted, why did Obama want it passed again? Wait! Obama is a liberal democrat... so is Harry Reid! Did they, or did they not want it extended without ANY changes to it? So now the quandry exists... do you or do you NOT support Obama and Harry Reid? Interesting dilemma, eh?

Being against abortion has nothing to do with my religious beliefs. Simply stated, I hate murder, legal or otherwise. Abortion is murder, no matter how you define the child inside of the mother. The fetus has it's own separate DNA, a decision was made to create the child and no action was taken to prevent the conception. I've never heard of a woman delivering a Jeep!

"The fetus has it's own separate DNA, a decision was made to create the child and no action was taken to prevent the conception."

Because there's no such thing as forcible rape or date rape in your worldview. If a woman is raped and becomes pregnant, it's obviously her fault and she should "make lemonade out of lemons"?

See, now I've gone from just not liking you to loathing you.

Spotts - She didn't have to accept the larger plane. It was a suggestion, not an order. She jumped at it.

To all the "because the other guys do it" rationale posters: You seem to be missing the point on purpose, might I add. The hooplah here is that Christie, a republican, uses a helicopter to attend a ball game. You'd think, by the reaction of the liberals, Christie committed murder. The overbloated liberals, of which MSNBC First Read writers cater to, jumped on the bandwagon spewing their hypocracy over something their own politician kind does on a daily basis but is never reported. I'm simply bringing out the obvious... liberals are hypocrites.

If the idiots would just check the internet for facts they would see that Pelosi flew on what ever jet was available and only once flew on the big C-32 plane in question because there was no other plane available. Then again I believe they know that but as typical Republicans, they enjoy telling lies.

Spotts - Loathe away! It's so typical of liberals to hate people. Your rationale that a rape victim is impregnated everytime doesn't hold water. You're the one that brought rape into the discussion. Cite the amount of abortions occurring because of rape. Do you know the statistics on that one pumpkin? How about incest? Statistics please... Look it up. The amount of abortions that occur each year due to rape or incest are so small they hardly register on the charts. BUT! You as a liberal feel all the millions of humans tossed away in garbage cans because of abortion is justified. I guess you are glad your mother didn't abort you... eh?

"Your rationale that a rape victim is impregnated everytime doesn't hold water."

I didn't say every time. Stop putting words in my mouth.

It doesn't matter if it happens 99% of the time or .1% of the time - there has to be a remedy for that circumstance because IT DOES HAPPEN.

I believe that abortion must be safe, must be rare, and must be legal. Banning it or making it a crime won't make it go away.

God forbid he would have to walk a hundred yards. He might actually burn off a few calories.

Brianb-999431

Being against abortion has nothing to do with my religious beliefs. Simply stated, I hate murder, legal or otherwise. Abortion is murder, no matter how you define the child inside of the mother.

Murdering a fact seems to be just fine with you, however...

The amount of abortions that occur each year due to rape or incest are so small they hardly register on the charts. BUT! You as a liberal feel all the millions of humans tossed away in garbage cans because of abortion is justified. I guess you are glad your mother didn't abort you... eh?

You sure are fast and loose with the facts. Tell us what exactly you are basing this on? Personally, I think you're full of "egg" and don't have a clue what you're talking about. I think all you're doing is repeating the talking points of GOP dimbulbs like Palin, Bachmann, Rush and Beck, and their comments are based in hysteria but not fact.

Simply stated, I hate murder, legal or otherwise

against capital punishment as well?

Brianb,

Obviously you took the facts and heard what you wanted to. She took the Big C-32 plane ONCE because it was THE ONLY AIR FORCE PLANE AVAILABLE AT THAT TIME! How hard is that to understand? You call that jumping at the chance? Really? I'm not a Lib, but come on, your making the rest of the Republican party look stupid already!

I understand that there are a lot of overly-sensative people out there, millions unemployeed or grossly under-employeed, housing values in shambles, US manufacturing at an all time low, high food, utility and fuel prices. Everyone is feeling the pain! If these things were not affecting everyone to some degree it would not be an issue. The biggest T-BAGGER of all gets carte blanche to fly around in Air Force One on our time no matter what despite not closing gitmo, ending the war he promised to...oh YEAH he actually got us into another conflict [Libya]. He and brain-trust of know-nothings have done SQUAT to actually improve the economy....BUT thanks for OBAMA care it really helps me, my coverage spiked 28% recently. Get with it people every four years the F'ing faces change but we still get screwed. All this party crap does is keep us arguing amongst ourselves instead of running them out of DC and into the Atlantic!!!

Brian - you keep failing to see the ONLY POINT VALID HERE.

I'll state it as simply as possible, and all you need to do is answer simply as well.

Republicans run on the platform of fiscal responsibility, cutting spending for seniors, students, and poor people...so that large corporations can maintain their tax breaks or credits. They run on the platform of cutting all wasteful spending.

When they spend lots of money, on things like a helicopter ride that is not necessary - or even have anything to do with the JOB...that makes them HYPOCRITES.

Now, tell me of a democrat who runs their mouth like christie does, and then contradicts what they say.

And by jebus, i'll lambast them too.

FTR - I dont recall Pelosi talking at all about cutting spending and doing away with wasteful spending, so her actions, unlike christies, were not a contradiction.

WE are reacting to the contradiction, not whether or not its right or wrong to use a helicopter at tax payer expense during a fiscal crisis. Christie has already provided HIS answer to that question, THUS the lambasting.

Seriously, this isnt that difficult to follow...unless, you simply just want to keep the blinders on.

Daryl - You're the one that started with the lists. I just augmented it to reflect how it applies to democrats. I don't support Gnewt. I wish he would withdraw. He no longer reflects the conservative viewpoint - his time has passed. In fact, there's no republican hopeful out there that I agree with. I do NOT support Obama but am pretty much resigned to the fact that if the republicans don't bring out someone with more pinache, Obama will win. There's not a lot I can do about it except remind myself that the 2012 election is still a ways off.

Draino - I am against capital punishment. Now I expect you to bring out the age old argument of what if they caught someone that killed someone I knew... how would I react then. For as much as that ploy won't work on me, I'll explain my position. Of course I'd be hurt and angry... devistated, but I would still be against that person's death in that case.

Concerned in Washington - I'm not a republican so I don't care how the republicans look. They do enough damage by themselves for me to ever give them a bad name. I only speak for myself, and not others. Besides, you are totally missing my point. Try reading from post number 1 to see where I was headed.

Jessica - do you know all the facts surrounding the reason Christie took the helicopter? Did the article explain the before and after events, or what may have been reported for the trip on the way? There was not enough information provided to give the reasons why he took the helicopter. All that was reported was he took it. Without so much as a shred of information why he took a helicopter, the liberals assume the worst because he's a republican. They immediately jump on the bandwagon of hate speech, calling him a hypocrite and an assortment of other names.

Now you are trying to explain to me all about the man's career and how he's a failure because he took a helicopter to an event. Do YOU know the surrounding facts? If so, please explain them to me so I can better understand your reasoning. I'd hate for you to make assumptions based on belief.

My very wise grandfather once told me... "Believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear." I've used this advice all my life and it has never failed me.

drano

Let's remember just who crafted the patriot act,

That would be Joe Biden

We need to bring Bush the Dictator back for you Rightwing idiots. Obama is not a Teabagger dumbo. Fatboy Christie is. Go back to your Faux propaganda and see the hate spewing imps puking all over each other to say the most hateful thing about Obama. The moderators are paid for by Nazi card carring Rupert Murdock and his lover Roger Ailes. They will not let an Honorable Democrat reply to any of the braindead Sarah Palins schooled jerk offs.

Hey Feisty, were you this up in arms when YOUR governor, Blago, flew a state plane to California for fundraising for his hoped for POTUS run? Not only did he do that he had his state police security detail drive vehicles to the state so he could have a convoy to blow through lights. I bet you didn't because we both know you are just a partisan hack without a shred of self respect........

Nick,

Your rants are just that. Rants. You premium going up %28 is caused by what or whom? How much did they go up the year before that or in 2009, or 2008, or 2007? You don't think it's important because you know the only person to blame are the insurance companies.

I suppose all Presidents are T-BAGGERS. You would just prefer if this President didn't do what the others did. He didn't close gitmo because the Republicans blocked it, by preventing the transfers of the prisoners. I suppose he is also responsible for ALL the wars.

Seems like you are the one that have to blame someone else for all your problems, since you just can't take care of yourself.

Before writing, read and find out the facts. You don't really sound like a Republican, but you are lying like them.

Being a parent who tries to be active with my kids activities, I can understand this. Their are millions of men who miss these priceless times and reget it for a lifetime. This attack is really petty.

chris-335678, I am sure Feisty won't mind if I respond,

Hey Feisty, were you this up in arms when YOUR governor, Blago, flew a state plane to California for fundraising for his hoped for POTUS run? Not only did he do that he had his state police security detail drive vehicles to the state so he could have a convoy to blow through lights. I bet you didn't because we both know you are just a partisan hack without a shred of self respect........

Blago did not run on the platform of fiscal responsibility, cutting spending for seniors, students, and poor people...so that large corporations can maintain their tax breaks or credits. He did not run on the platform of cutting all wasteful spending.
I am sure as a self respecting person, you read all of Feisty responses when the subject came up. Or I am sure this is just your way of showing that you are in the sewer with the rest of her critics.

chris-335678, I am sure Feisty won't mind if I respond,

Matter of fact - I'm honored!

You can be my wingman anytime! *hugs*

Bob Hall - ::clap:: ::clap:: ::clap:: - I applaud you! Post 1.68 is the epitomy of the liberal view! You did that so well! A little bit of advice... you could have used a few more adjectives while describing the jerk off's. Next time don't hold anything back... let it all come out... the anger.. the hatred... all of it. You can trunicate cuss words too. Don't forget the F'ing or the A'holes... they will make your liberalism just that much more profound. After all, don't ever be ashamed of who you are, or who you offend.

Fletch2 - Come on... you can do better too! Defend red head's right to be an idiot to the hilt. Don't ever hold back on what you really feel. sewer? You know you can go a lot lower than a sewer. Send them straight to hell. I mean if you can't give it your best, why do it at all? Oh, BTW, do you have all the facts surrounding Christies' reason for taking the helicopter? I mean, the facts that don't include your assumptions.

@brianb.....

....and you would be wrong about my reaction to post 1.65. My question was based on your comment about being against all murder, legal and illegal. While i do disagree with your position on abortion, i respect the fact that you are applying the same logic to both issues which is consistent.

Uh no, moron, it would not.

If you think it's petty, Einstein. What an idiot.

MC wins the jerk of the First Read forum award. Name-calling with nothing of substance behind it while hiding behind a computer. Way to go! Congrats!

Brianb,

I read your posts all the way, and your trying to muddy the waters. You made many statements that are false and you got called on them. I called you on the fact that Pelosi (who I don't care for, for the record) jumped at the chance to use the big jet, but you are wrong. It was the only plane that would fly cross country, as alloted to the SOH at the time (which was alloted to previous and present SOH). She did not request it, she did not "jump at the chance" to use it. She did not have another jet available and never "jumped at the chance to use the jet again"! That speaks volumes. As for your being a Republican or not, I stand corrected and will request that you change Republican in my above post to Human. I am making an assumption that you are at least human. I am eagerly awaiting if I need to correct myself again (since there seems to be plently of room for another mistake on this point!!!)

@AZChzhd

turns out you are a moron and MC knows what he is talking about. the primary author was a justice dept lawyer Viet Dihn....not joe biden.

Drano...Joe Biden penned a bill that is identical to the Patriot Act in 1995 after the OKC bombing. It never made it to law since the Republicans fought it tooth and nail.

Even before the Oklahoma City bombings, Joe Biden was busy at work writing the Omnibus Counterterrorism Act of 1995. It was later returned from the dead in 2001 after 9/11. "I drafted a terrorism bill after the Oklahoma City bombing. And the bill John Ashcroft sent up was my bill," Biden said when the Patriot Act was being debated, according to the New Republic.

viet dihn was the justice dept lawyer that was the primary author of the patriot act....its a fact.

Azchzhd,

Thats like saying Al Gore built the internet, because he said so. I read Joe Biden's draft and it was hugely different then the one Viet Dihn wrote. Sorry, but nope!

Defensive about the comments of this little ride? Well, count this as the beginning of many, many future situations where he will take advantage of taxpayer money under the name of "governor." What? He reproduced? More bullies? Oh, no.

Nick the enforcer? SURELY you aren't blaming Obama for your health care going up. Care to guess what my company rates have gone up the past 4 years??? A MINIMUM of 20% each year and two years it was 29%. I run a small company and participation is below the industry requirement (not law) so they don't allow me to shop my business. I have no choice other than to suck up the higher rates each year until I finally say we can have insurance or we can close the business. Some choice and it had NOTHING to do with Obama. The insurance companies are actually the evil one in this picture.

The whole idea you guys are comparing Christy Cream with Palosi is laughable. She was third in command (and if you check factcheck.org) she took whatever jet was available and she did NOT get botox shots. HE on the other hand is nothing but a state governor who champions the spending cut/no tax rise mantra. This is not apples to apples guys and gals...

A couple of points to make...

1) NJ State Police have pretty much come out and said it was used as an opporunity to train pilots, so the helicopter would have been in use anyway.

2) Some dad... He left during the fifth inning.

3) In a time of budget cuts and layoffs, our leaders need to *appear* as though they are being fiscally responsible at every turn. That means no copter rides... Especially if you are going to have an motorcade escort for the last 100 yards anyways. *facepalm*

4) If you really wanted to make this look fiscally responsible, come out with a statement that clearly informs the public that you are taking the oppurtunity to 'double-duty' the helicopter, allowing for time in the air to serve as training, AND transport. And preferably BEFORE you make a big scene at your kid's game.

I can start to see both sides, and my bottom line is "Look smart, even if you aren't".

Send them straight to hell. I mean if you can't give it your best, why do it at all? Oh, BTW, do you have all the facts surrounding Christies' reason for taking the helicopter? I mean, the facts that don't include your assumptions.

There is no hell. It's a life choice. And yes, they are so busy pointing a finger and criticizing, their statements are worse than anything she has said, hence the sewer. I suppose you think it's ok for Chris to attack her. I did not see where she attacked him. I suppose you have the right to defend her attackers, while you attack as well. You obviously have the need to go after her and anyone who supports her. You must be a republican who preaches the Newt doctrine, do as I say not as I do.

I assumed nothing about Christie. I watched he and his wife get on the helicopter, got off, got in a car, watched the game then got back in the car, back on the helicopter. From what I saw he took a helicopter and a car to the game. I don't remember ever stating a reason for him doing so. It just seems funny that rather than talking about the subject, it's always a comparison because Joe did it, why shouldn't he. Or he is being criticized because he is a republican, which is a lie.

Brian,

Can you answer a few questions based on this statement you made.........

- She didn't have to accept the larger plane. It was a suggestion, not an order. She jumped at it.

To all the "because the other guys do it" rationale posters: You seem to be missing the point on purpose, might I add. The hooplah here is that Christie, a republican, uses a helicopter to attend a ball game. You'd think, by the reaction of the liberals, Christie committed murder. The overbloated liberals, of which MSNBC First Read writers cater to, jumped on the bandwagon spewing their hypocracy over something their own politician kind does on a daily basis but is never reported. I'm simply bringing out the obvious... liberals are hypocrites.

How do you know she jumped at the chance?

their own politician kind does on a daily basis but is never reported...Can you tell me what politician did this daily and was not reported?

Please I would like facts, not assumptions.

No odumbo is not a tea bagger, but a flee bagger. However, he is the founder of the tea party. His bumbling and failed policies created the tea party.

Act2,

You really are an act. The tea bagger movement had their first rally on Feb 27 2009. So they must be a bunch of fools if they did it because of Obama, since he was President for only 38 days. You don't even know what a policy is. You are simply repeating lies.

I think it was just because of his race. Ok, ok, I'm going to hear about the race card. But why would they blame Obama for failed policies that wasn't even implemented, much less having an opportunity to fail? You all just wanted your country back from the black man. Just be honest and say it like it is. I know it is very hard for you, because honesty is not part of your dna. But try. Some of your other tea baggers already admitted it.

I know you were not a great student, but try thinking for yourself. Stop repeating after the talking heads. If Obama is a flee bagger, where did he flee to?

When a lib has no argument, shout racism! So predictable!!

Vacations, golf, anywhere but work. That is where odumbo fled to! Drinking beer with the irish while texas burned, south blown away, and the mississippi flooded.

"Drinking beer with the irish while texas burned, south blown away, and the mississippi flooded."

It was a state visit, you twit. I suppose he should just tell the Prime Minister of Ireland and the Queen of England (you know, two of our most staunchest allies) to sod off?

Act2,

Cant answer the question and your statements got debunked, so like I predicted you scream race card. You must be the same as vampire, garlic hurts them, truth hurts you.

another republican shows his true colors! these people are out of control

I am suprised the helicopter made it off the ground with that lard ass onboard.

Everyone complains how Democrats are hypocrites, because they do not complain when Democrats like Pelosi does it, because she did nothing wrong.

But you don't see Democrats cutting everything for everyone except themselves. They don't preach family values, while cheating. They don't claim homosexuality is against God wishes, and refuse to recognize it, while they are seeing men and boys on the side. They do preach do as I say not as I do though.

What you smoking out there in la la land, Al?

Jerry Brown is a pathetic lackey of the crooked public employee unions stealing and bankrupting the once great state of California.

The great Chris Christie is fighting the corrupt unions in New Jersey and winning.

Your hero "the great Chris Christie" just proved he is a lying, lazy, fat ass, social misfit.

The great Chris Christie is fighting the corrupt unions in New Jersey and winning

Sounds more like the corrupt Chris Christie is fighting the great unions in New Jersey; and working people, as usual under Republican administrations, are the ones losing.

Forrest, how ture... how true. I voted for the other guy.

Forrst

Your great Obama has INCREASED the fleet of Gov't owned Limos by 73%. Where is the out rage on that situation? What Christie did was wrong and what the Administration did was wrong. It goes BOTH ways.

slodon~

The article isn't about Obama. It's about another republican that runs on the platform of fiscal conservative and yet wastes money just like the rest.

Slodon they don't take a Limo to get from the living room to the kitchen.

I say add the cost of the car and driver to the cost of the helicopter on the taxpayers' tab. No doubt the car & driver took him to the political dinner as well. I'm waiting for the Gov. to blame the whole thing on security risks. Sure hope his son got a hit.

If he wasn't a security risk before, he will be now. What these guys really mean when they claim they're bringing business principles to government is that they want to live like CEOs.

The security risks is that his walking a whole hundred yards on open ground sets off the local seismographic sensors, which automatically triggers a power plant shutdown, making him the embarrassed epicenter of a seismic event.

Molly,

You mean you wouldn't call the governor the CEO? What would you call him? I've heard all the childish name calling by everyone on this board (both ways) but this one is true. The CEO is in charge and last I heard so is the governor so that must make him one in the same. Maybe I didn't read all of your post. I must have missed something?

Our Teapublican governor, Paul LePage put his 22 year old daughter on the state payroll starting at $41,000, all the while yapping about greedy public employees and bloated government.

Isn't Christie's popularity fading? After the people found out what they elected, like all the other Republican governors that got voted. Voters remorse.

Yep!!!!! His numbers are going down as if he were standing on the meter.

I don't know anyone who voted for him or likes him. I think the problem was that the other choice wasn't that great, either. I held my nose and voted for the other guy. NJ hasn't had a decent governor in decades. R or D, they all just kept adding to the budget problems in their own ways. Christie is trying short-term and short-sighted budget fixes that add significantly to our tax burden, making a very high cost of living even worse. I'm planning on leaving within the year. I'm lucky to have the option.

NJSP says it's $2,500 per hour. Not to be too picky about it. :-)

www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/06/state_police_say_gov_christies.html

And, yes, walking would have set a good example. The guy could certainly stand to lose a pound or two hundred.

They're not in the same job. Maybe you should compare Boehner to Pelosi, or maybe even Bush. Do you ever wonder what it cost to fly Bush back and forth to his Texas ranch every couple of weeks, or to fly him from Washington to Arizona in August, 2005, by-passing New Orleans while the levees were breaking, just to share a birthday cake photo-op with John McCain?

Why is it that conservatives are only conservative about their own money but are perfectly happy to spend yours and mine?

RVZ555

How many times have we seen just Michelle dragging the two girls around like a couple of stuffed little monkeys? Note: I didn't actually call the girls "monkeys". I just said she drags them around like they are. There's a difference, you see.

just as many times as George and Laura dragged the twins around, your comment about monkeys is a suttle racist comment, you say you did not call them that, but to mention the Obama daughters in the same sentence as monkeys is enough.

so i will ask, how many times has you and your wife dragged around your children like Apes?

Your comment symbolizes why people should think before they post. There is no comparision between the two.

Not yet, but in due time if his boy stays on the baseball team, Christie will be the winner.

The Governor That Ate New Jersey, no kidding, he really is.

Get in my belly! - Fat Baster and Governor Chris Christie Creme of NJ

Gov. Khristy Kreme in a NJ state budget meeting: Come here I'm Gonna Eat ya

RVZ:

Note: I didn't actually call the girls "monkeys". I just said she drags them around like they are. There's a difference, you see.

Really, RVZ?! Would you like to explain the difference? And why, then, did you choose the term monkeys, when you could have chosen, for example, teddy bears, or lap dogs, or knapsacks?

RVZ knows exactly what he is saying. The fact that he chose to put in a disclaimer is because he wants to use the same excuse. "No one can criticize this President without them pulling the race card".

Well you've got it dude. You are a bigot and racist. I know if you compare Christi with the President he would seem 'little', but that was not your intent when you called them the "little people".

So now run and hide like the coward you are.

Opajack--as I recall it, Nancy Pelosi's travel was coordinated with the Secret Service as well because of her position in the presidential succession. Have yet to see a security reason for the Governor's helicopter ride. Is this the best defense they can come up with?

They want to cut entitlements that the American people paid into. But don't touch their entitlements. Cut every other spending except theirs. Everyone ELSE should show fiscal responsibility. How dare you expect them to so the same. Don't you know it's one standard for Republicans and one for everyone else?

So, Bob, are YOU saying that the world ISN'T a dangerous place? And, while we're at it, care to comment on the part about those alternative fuel vehicles?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-20067610-10391695.html

The number of limousines owned by the U.S. government increased by 73 percent during the first two years of the Obama administration, according to a new report by iWatch news.

An analysis of General Services Administration data reveals the federal fleet has increased from 238 limos in 2008---the last year of the Bush Administration--- to 412 limos in 2010. Much of the increase was recorded in the State Department under Hillary Clinton.

For its part, the Obama administration said the increased number of limousines in the federal fleet reflects "an enhanced effort to protect diplomats and other government officials in a dangerous world."

Just last week, President Obama issued a directive stating that by 2015 all vehicles purchased by the government must be "alternative fuel vehicles" such as hybrids and electric cars.

...at least put all the words in the article in your post there Bob...afraid of context are we?

Most of the increase was recorded in Hillary Clinton’s State Department.

Obama administration officials said most of the increase reflects an enhanced effort to protect diplomats and other government officials in a dangerous world. But a watchdog group says the abundance of limos sends the wrong message in the midst of a budget crisis. The increase in limos comes to light on the heels of an executive order from President Obama last week that charges agencies to increase the fuel efficiency of their fleets.

According to General Services Administration data , the number of limousines in the federal fleet increased from 238 in fiscal 2008, the last year of the George W. Bush administration, to 412 in 2010. Much of the 73 percent increase—111 of the 174 additional limos—took place in fiscal 2009, more than eight months of which corresponded with Obama’s first year in office. However, some of those purchases could reflect requests made by the Bush administration during an appropriations process that would have begun in the spring of 2008.

The GSA said its limousine numbers are not reliable, even though the federal fleet numbers are officially recorded every year. In a statement, GSA spokeswoman Sara Merriam said, “The categories in the Fleet Report are overly broad, and the term 'limousine' is not defined,” adding that “vehicles represented as limousines can range from protective duty vehicles to sedans.” Asked whether the GSA actually knows how many limos it has in its fleet, Merriam responded that GSA “cannot say that its report accurately reflects the number of limousines.”

Leslie Paige, a spokeswoman for the nonprofit watchdog group Citizens Against Government Waste, was outraged that the GSA’s numbers may not be accurate. “They can’t figure out a way to define a limo? How hard can it be? If the government can’t track limos, I’m not sure we should trust the numbers they put out there on anything,” she said.

Although the overall limo numbers in the fleet report were up in 2010, federal agencies and departments did not benefit equally. The State Department, with 259, had more limos than any other agency in 2010 and has gained 194 limos just since fiscal 2008. Of those new limos, 98 were defined as “law enforcement,” which the GSA said means they are equipped with sirens or lights, high-performance drivetrains, or are used for surveillance or undercover operations.

The State Department in a statement said its limos are deployed by overseas diplomats and in the United States by Secretary of State Clinton and “distinguished foreign visitors.” Many of the limos in its fleet are armored to protect against attack. The department said its Obama-era increase in armored limos is “both in proportion to the increased threat to diplomats serving overseas and is in proportion to the increase number of diplomats we have serving in high threat environments.” Appropriations documents indicate the State Department was engaged in a longer-term effort to increase the number of armored vehicles that would have stretched back to at least 2007.

The department said it defines a limo as a vehicle that carries a VIP or “other protectee,” rather than by the type of car, but said most of its limos are Cadillac DTSs, which cost the taxpayer more than $60,000 for a 2011 base model and support the additional weight of armoring. The department said it also purchased a limited number of 7-Series BMWs for ambassadors in countries where vehicles are right-hand drive.

The Department of Homeland Security, which in 2010 had the second largest number of limos at 118, dropped four limos from 2008 to 2010. A spokesman for DHS said the majority of its limos are used by the Secret Service, which is part of the department, but declined to elaborate on exact numbers, citing security concerns.

Paige, of CAGW, called the new federal limos “one more reason why there is so much cynicism in the public about what goes on in Washington.” She said terrorism and security has become the catchall justification for increased federal spending.

The increase in limos comes at a time when the Obama administration is increasingly working to burnish its green energy credentials by targeting the federal fleet. On Tuesday, Obama released a presidential memorandum requiring agencies to purchase only alternative fuel vehicles by 2015. The memorandum limits executive fleets to mid-sized and smaller cars “except where larger sedans are essential to the agency mission.” It also exempts law enforcement and security vehicles, which could make up the majority of the federal limo fleet.

According to a March report by the GAO, the federal government spent $1.9 billion on new vehicles in fiscal 2009, and burned through 963,000 gallons of fuel a day with its fleet of 600,00 vehicles.

The number of limousines in the federal fleet has varied over the years. In 2007, the number dropped to 217 from 318 a year before. But due to the fuzzy GSA accounting, it’s unclear exactly how many federal limos have been on the road.

According to the GSA report, for example, the U.S. Agency for International Development, which had zero limos in 2008, added six limos to its fleet in 2009. But agency spokesman Lars Anderson said that’s because six standard overseas sedans, including a 1997 Ford Crown Victoria in Bangladesh, and a 2009 Mercury Grand Marquis in El Salvador, were incorrectly recorded as limos.

If the data is correct, some federal employees who once rode in style now face more proletarian transportation options. The Department of Veterans Affairs, for example, ran a fleet of 21 limousines in 2008 under George W. Bush, according to the fleet report. It now makes do with only one. The Government Printing Office also lost all of its six limos between 2009 and 2010. The VA and the Government Printing Office did not respond to calls for comment.

What's your point?

The point is, when you do the Hannity thing by taking one line out of a complete report and using it to criticize the President, it's lying by omission.

When you read tho whole article , it's something different.

Eg.One of Hannity lies were that President Obama says he will raise taxes on everyone. "He lied when he said he wouldn't. Listen to this, that is him saying he will raise taxes". Then he plays the President saying, "I will raise taxes". But failed to play the whole thing where he said" I will raise taxes, but only on the top 2% of the wealthiest Americans". This is Hannity's trademark and it seems to be the one Bob choose to adopt.

No, they won't... If he had a Guinness it would have been ok, I bet.

Cuz', ya' know...liberals don't mind if you have anopinion as long as it its the same as theirs.

Sen. McCaskill's problems over private jets and taxes on them was posted here a few months ago when it first arose and the liberals condemned it. We expressed disappointment over her behavior and that it told us something about her that we had not previously thought to be true. Catch up.

MsCaskill liberal, really? I believe she's what you call a Republican in disguise, a DINO.

Besides she repaid all the expenses.

Bob just can't help himself, even when he has a somewhat valid point he spoils it by lying. How do you ..owed hundreds of thousands in back taxes on the plane!. What type of back taxes did she owe on the plane, that would amount to hundreds of thousands?

Besides MsCaskill did not run on the same values as Christi. She is not cutting money for schools and teachers while spending on flights. He is.

I am not a resident of New Jersey, so this doesn't directly affect me However, it does make one wonder about people feeling "entitled" and about abuse of power. Gov. Palin DID reimburse her state for flights her children made, and Gov. Sanford of NC DID reimburse his state for personal trips he made on state money. President Clinton, while governor in Arkansas, put his state troopers under duress for having them complicit in some of his alleged liaisons. If Gov. Christie were my governor, I would complain about his use of a helicopter and tinted-window security car and entourage for a photo-op visit to a baseball game. In general, in this day and age, with teleconferencing, cell phones, etc., there isn't any need for the governor of a small state (one of the five smallest) to be rushing around from one spot to the other, trying to make stops in several places in the same day. He needs a better scheduler.

You are stupid. At least LIBERALS admit when someone does wrong, ie, Claire MCCaskill. She did reimburse unlike so many of your ilk.

At least LIBERALS admit when someone does wrong? Where was this exagerated outrage when Mr. /Ms. President decided to fly up to NY and take in a play? When Ms. President decided to fly off to France for a little R&R with her pals at a $5000/nite 5 star resort? Where was the outrage then?

They did nothing wrong. Actually it was dinner and a play. He traveled the only way he was allowed to. Maybe it's envy because he and his wife still enjoy each others company.

You need to check on the secret service website before commenting on Mrs. Obamas trip. They stayed in the hotel that was chosen for her by the secret service. Her friends did not fly with her and paid every dime of their own expense. It seems as if you are upset that her friends could afford to stay at a 5 star resort. Check your facts, she went to Spain not France.

I am sure you would be upset even if she went alone, in response to an invitation.

He needed the car to get to the hot dog stand!

Lets all sing "Take Him Out to the Ball Game"

Peanuts and popcorn and Crakerjack, he don't care if he breaks your back. Ohh take him out to the ball....

Riding in choppers there and back, a limo ride around the warning track, Ohh take him out to the ball....

You don't actually believe MSNBC would run a story about Pelosi's abuse of power, do you? This media organization has it's head so far up the Democratic Party azz that it doesn't know if it's day or night. You folks may make all the jokes you want about "FAUX NEWS" you want. I would suggest you not look in the mirror at your own biases. Let me guess, two minutes until "collapsed by community" for calling the kettle black.

Probably not since those stories don't seem to make the news per the media's choice . . .

So by you bringing up Pelosi to deflect from the issue at hand, aren't you the pot calling the kettle black as well? Everybody knows the biases of the various media outlets, Danno. You haven't made some great discovery, thus trying to "stick it to liberals" is a waste of breath.

If you don't like MSNBC, don't watch it, don't read stories on their website, and don't get your feathers ruffled and comment on here like you're trying to set some people straight. Move on, watch the network that feeds you what you want to hear, and have a nice day. Your rant is an old soggy newspaper that your paperboy forgot to wrap in a plastic bag; no one cares to read it and it's going straight into recycling. If you hate MSNBC, stop making them money by generating hits that helps them sell advertising.

Hey Danno, put this in your browser and do a little reading before you talk about Nacy Perlosi. I personally don't particularly like Perlosi, but read the facts.

factcheck.org/2008/12/nancy-pelosis-personal-jet/

OK, I read the story. So what? Are you telling me that politicians need to fly on military provided airplanes (small ones or large ones, it doesn't matter to me) to get to and from their home state? Why? To campaign for re-election? How about staying in Washington, DC and doing their job. Are they so important that they can't use readily available commercial flights. National security concerns may ass. As for Gov Christie, I'm not condoning what he does, I'm just saying that all politicians do it and it's WRONG. Of course MSNBC will only report when the story suits their Democratic Party bosses.

Actually, the Pelosi story is a Republican canard. While it's true that she requested a plane be available that could fly her non-stop from Washington to San Francisco, according to snopes she didn't ask for special luxury items, and she actually made fewer trips to her district than her predecessor, Dennis Hastert. According to the snopes article, the request was made purely for security purposes through the House Sergeant at Arms, who had been in the post for 11 years at the time.

The House Speaker having access to military flights rather than flying commercial like the rest of Congress, by the way, started under President Bush after 9/11. He felt that because of their position in succession to the presidency they should have access to safe, secure travel. Personally, I don't disagree with that idea, and I have no love for Bush whatsoever.

If you're interested in reading their thorough analysis:

Just can't admit it when you're wrong, can you, Danno. That is a sign of a deeply rooted psychological problem, not to mention an ethical lapse. Here is a hint, Danno: people have more respect for those who can admit and learn from their mistakes. You have done neither.

State is bankrupt. Everyone is watching every penny. And the fiscal conservative can't take a limo. A classic blowhard hypocrite.

Do you think "fiesty" has a fat ass? We all know she has a burning bush. I like a firm Cadillac ass or at least a good full-size Buick ass. Fiesty, lets hook up. You sound like you'd be a hoot.

He got on one of those talking scales and it said "one at time please".

cezanne-2432338

Speaker Pelosi, third in line to the Presidency, was commuting between DC her home state of California. I seriously dobut the Secret Service wanted her flying on commercial airplanes.

Christie was pinging between a fundraising event and his son's ball game. Not the same thing, and you know it.

Not one word is uttered because none is needed.

cezanne-2432338

I don't think most people here would hesitate to call out a Democrat governor if they did the same thing. The Republicans made Pelosi public enemy number one the day she became the first woman speaker. She fell a half spot to public enemy 1a when Obama became the first African-American President, thus the new public enemy number one. Thus, it doesn't surprise me when a Republican white man fails that these two are brought up as your defense.

Here's an idea. Condemn what is wrong and move on. It adds credibility. Simply deflecting, and not accepting responsibility and calling wrong wrong, it's what's wrong with politics. As an independent, I see it coming from one side more than the other. I know a lot of other independents see it the same way. Democrats got called on the "blame Bush" tactics in 2010. Republicans should be very aware of this because they're on track to have roles reversed on them in 2012.

CEZANNE? Does your momma know that you fib so much???? About the only thing true in your post is your name! ( mebbe.... LMAO!)

The world, and especially New Jersey, would be a better place if it had.