Cantor wants Ryan in race for president

Despite Paul Ryan’s attempt on NBC’s Meet the Press to shut the door on speculation that he might run for president in 2012, he got one high-level possible supporter today.

At a press conference on Capitol Hill today, Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) said he’d like to see Ryan (R-WI) run.

“Sure, I think Paul is about real leadership,” Cantor said in response to a question of whether he would like to see the congressman make a bid. “I think that's what this public so desperately wants to do right now. They want to see Washington that will lead. They don't want to see individuals dismiss the current problems as something that we can sweep under the rug. These are problems that go to the very existence of programs that are so important to people. Yet, somehow the other side castigates, us for putting a plan out there that is responsible. What is the choice, their choice thus far has been bankruptcy of these programs and rationing of healthcare.”

Cantor’s comments come as many in the GOP are disappointed with the current crop of 2012 candidates. When asked about Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels’ decision not to run, Cantor said, “Certainly I think Mitch Daniels would have been a great candidate. He had his decision to make, and he made it.”

Cantor made sure to praise the current field as a “strong candidates” but mentioned it’s “early still.”

When asked whether any GOP 2012 nominee should totally embrace Ryan’s budget plan, a plan that includes a significant altering of Medicare, Cantor said, “I'm looking for the presidential candidates to embrace our formula in the Ryan Budget. I'm looking for them to embrace a leadership roles that makes tough decisions."

Cantor also made sure to point out he himself would not be a candidate for president in 2012.

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Watch out Boehner - this little punk is l@@king at your job! ;o)

Hopefully the Weeper of the House is familiar about keeping your enemies closer... lol

On another note - I would LOVE to see Ryan run!

I mean those town hall meetings of his have been working out so well! LMAO!

  • 45 votes
#1 - Mon May 23, 2011 1:50 PM EDT

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL
What out Boehner - this little punk is looking at your job! ;o)

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#1 - Mon May 23, 2011 1:50 PM EDT

That's a crying shame.

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#1.1 - Mon May 23, 2011 1:51 PM EDT

And so do I. Run Ryan Run. It sure does show out out of touch Eric Cantor really is. Lost somewhere in space.

Cantor doesn't seem to care how many GOP representative seats he will lose in 2012. He just hangs on to that Tea Party ideology. What a fool.

  • 40 votes
#1.2 - Mon May 23, 2011 1:58 PM EDT

It was just posted on Think Progress that three GOP senators are slated for Recall. On Wisconsin!!

  • 32 votes
#1.3 - Mon May 23, 2011 2:23 PM EDT

This is mischief Cantor. what do you have up your sleeves........I can smell it. you want to hang ryan with his budget dry. I guess it's weighing heavily your congress. sorry you can't take it back. you can flip and flop like newt, it's your bill.

  • 21 votes
#1.4 - Mon May 23, 2011 2:24 PM EDT

Hey Ron, as compared to:

"(Pick Democrat name) only cares how many democratic seats get picked up in congress regardless of ideology.

Hmmm, someone that wants to help the country and the middle class, or someone that wants to keep their seat in congress? Which one do you pick?

  • 1 vote
#1.5 - Mon May 23, 2011 2:48 PM EDT

Paul Ryan is a thug who is heading up the Republican "Let's rob the Social Security Trust Fund AGAIN" movement. I saw Paul Ryan on the Sunday News Show yesterday and he reinforced his and the Republicans position that they will NOT tax the rich. Republicans want the money from our Social Securty Trust Fund and they're working hard to get it by first disguising it as some kind of Medicare re-write to confuse the Republicans voters (Democrats will NEVER go for such a con game).

In short, Ryan said their will be no tax increases on the rich. They only thing on the Republicans' table is Social Security and Medicare.

Now, Republicans owe and borrowed a TRILLION DOLLARS from China, but they're not trying to re-write THAT loan, but Republicans borrowed a much, much smaller amount from our Social Security Retirement Trust Fund ($2 billion dollars) and they call THAT the problem.

Here's the REAL problem: Republican Politicians are just a bunch of thieves who don't pay into Social Security but want to keep all of OUR money that's in it.

Republicans need to pay us back for that worthless IOU George W. Bush signed and put in our Social Security Retirement Trust Fund and QUIT trying to steal from the American People!

  • 38 votes
#1.6 - Mon May 23, 2011 3:05 PM EDT

JC in G: Republicans already sent a bunch of know-nothing wackos on the promise that Republicans were going to focus on JOBS JOBS JOBS, and we haven't heard a word out of them.

So (in typical Republican form), since THAT didn't work, Republicans want to keep trying the same thing over and over again, in the hopes that you'll get a different result.

Insane.

  • 31 votes
#1.7 - Mon May 23, 2011 3:12 PM EDT

Come on Ryan, run.....with your BOLD SELF!

Don't be afraid to push your 'right-wing social engineering'!

  • 25 votes
#1.8 - Mon May 23, 2011 3:13 PM EDT

So an "unleader" just endorsed an announced "uncandidate" and THAT bubbles up to the top of the GOP candidate news?

In other news... oops, there must be no other news.

  • 13 votes
#1.9 - Mon May 23, 2011 3:28 PM EDT

This is mischief Cantor. what do you have up your sleeves........I can smell it. you want to hang ryan with his budget dry. I guess it's weighing heavily your congress. sorry you can't take it back. you can flip and flop like newt, it's your bill.

I think this is part of the plan to try to distance themselves from the fallout of the Ryan plan, that is probably going to decimate a large proportion of the r/tp congress critters.

Run Ryan for POTUS and when he loses in a landslide, the r/tp figures they have been able to wipe away all responsibility for this travesty that they have tried to foist onto the American citizens. They probably figure with Ryan gone that all will be forgotten or forgiven by the vast majority of people that they have insulted and tried to harm.

They have ticked too many people off, done zilch to help the common citizen, and have truly woken the sleeping giant that too many people on the left had become. Instead of starving the beast, it is now time for the beast to become emboldened and alert to the anti-American r/tp policies and agenda, and defeat them for the good of the country and the defense of freedom and liberty

  • 10 votes
#1.10 - Mon May 23, 2011 3:29 PM EDT

dear feisty

I love your wit !!! but how the hell are you able to comment first on every damn thing ??? is this website on "speed-dial" or something ???

p.s. keep up the good work !!!

  • 12 votes
#1.11 - Mon May 23, 2011 3:30 PM EDT

Maybe Cantor wants Ryan to run so he can run for Vice-Pres. What a pair to draw to! The TP/Rethugs are scraping the bottom of the barrel, and Ryan is the dregs. Good grief, this is really getting beyond silly, it's just sad.

  • 10 votes
#1.12 - Mon May 23, 2011 3:42 PM EDT

is this website on "speed-dial" or something ???

HAHAHA! Haven't you heard?

According to the right wingers I'm a paid hack for MSNBC! ;o)

Thanks for the kind words and to tell the truth - it's being at the right place at the right time!

In other words... PURE luck!

  • 13 votes
#1.13 - Mon May 23, 2011 3:44 PM EDT

Hi Feisty,

We are proud that you are a paid hack for MSNBC.

  • 7 votes
#1.14 - Mon May 23, 2011 5:12 PM EDT

The cast just keeps getting better and better! I saw a thread yesterday that suggested a Palin/Bachmann ticket...ain't that a hoot! This keeps up, President Obama will be unopposed in 2012 because no one will show up for the Republican primary! The right is like the preverbial school yard bully...a big mouth with nothing to back it up. LMFAO!

BTW...good luck with that Ryan budget plan...talk about a turd in a punch bowl...can you say D.O.A.

  • 11 votes
#1.15 - Mon May 23, 2011 5:59 PM EDT

I think it's only right that Ryan run, so people can tell him exactly what they think of his plan to sell all the Medicare taxes I've paid to his biggest campaign contributor, while I get nothing but a coupon in return.

  • 12 votes
#1.16 - Mon May 23, 2011 6:14 PM EDT

Feisty,

I have had the same compliment paid strange I haven't seen you in the halls at 30 Rockefeller. Keep the faith! One of the few things more enjoyable than a Ryan run would be a Cantor campaign particularly the debates where he would refuse to answer any question with an answer other than Obamacare. Live long and prosper

jkh

  • 6 votes
#1.17 - Mon May 23, 2011 7:47 PM EDT

there won't be a promising candidate. you know it's what the conservatives always do. they leave the cleaning up of their mess for democrats. once the democrats clean up, they ride right back in to screw things up with their crazy sense of capitalism. once they screw up, the dems clean up again ...

maybe we just shouldn't elect repub's. look back as far as woodrow wilson with wwI, league of nations; fdr with wwII, new deal, now, they want to give bush the credit for obl - seriously, DUDE, go figure. the only good repub was eisenhower ...

  • 7 votes
#1.18 - Mon May 23, 2011 8:00 PM EDT

I live in the district adjacent to Cantor's. After years of worming his way into the party leadership, he ran his last campaign as an "outsider" looking to clean up Washington. And the idiots bought it ! I say Cantor should resign so he can manage Ryans campaign. Ryan loses and everyone wins.

  • 6 votes
#1.19 - Mon May 23, 2011 9:24 PM EDT
Comment author avatarEdward-1075991Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

So when is the author going to permanently ban the foul mouthed bimbo from Illinois??

    #1.20 - Mon May 23, 2011 11:15 PM EDT

    Talk about throwing one of your own teammates under the bus! This is going to be real interesting to watch as they begin to eat their own this election cycle.

    • 4 votes
    #1.21 - Mon May 23, 2011 11:38 PM EDT

    Isn't that like the blind leading the blind?

    • 1 vote
    #1.22 - Tue May 24, 2011 12:11 AM EDT

    So when is the author going to permanently ban the foul mouthed bimbo from Illinois??

    Probably about the same time you ever come up with something relevant to add to the thread discussion, Edward.

    • 7 votes
    #1.23 - Tue May 24, 2011 12:54 AM EDT

    Ron - most recall's fail. I don't know what percentage of signatures it takes, but getting recalls on the ballot takes a very low percentage of the registered voters to get a recall on the ballot.

      #1.24 - Tue May 24, 2011 1:32 AM EDT

      I rarely go name-calling, but Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) is a Douchebag(TM).

      I feel better now.

      Wasn't he saying the same crap about how great Newt is just last week?

      • 2 votes
      #1.25 - Tue May 24, 2011 4:13 AM EDT

      What you guys on this strand dont realize is that it is not a ploy by Cantor he really believes Ryan is right! The republicans that won in nov dont understand that they were voted in because they were promising jobs they thought that they were being mandated to run the GOP agenda that they didnt verbalise in most cases till after the election. Those democratic cross over voters and independents had no idea that they truly were out to kill the middle class. Thats why you need to do you homework before you vote and specifically dont vote out of anger because you will unearth something that will ultimately harm you.

      • 5 votes
      #1.26 - Tue May 24, 2011 7:44 AM EDT

      Thanks for the compliment Job1!

      @Jim - Hey maybe we can 'do' lunch some time @ 30 Rock! lol

      • 1 vote
      #1.27 - Tue May 24, 2011 9:27 AM EDT

      C'mon GOP supporters...don't ya feel the love anymore for your candidates? Where's your supporting posts and comments? What's the matter...cat got your tongue? It's probably a little depressing when your "best" candidates want to destroy the middle class as we know it and give all the Imperialist power to the wealthy. Oh...that's right...that's been the goal of the GOP since Reagan was POTUS...my bad! LMFAO!!

      • 2 votes
      #1.28 - Tue May 24, 2011 10:29 AM EDT

      Cantor is the Republican's answer to Nancy Pelosi.

      • 1 vote
      #1.29 - Tue May 24, 2011 11:28 AM EDT

      Here's the Ryan plan in a nutshell: Throw grandma under the bus, so rich people can take her money and run.

      More welfare for the wealthy.

      • 2 votes
      #1.30 - Tue May 24, 2011 11:51 AM EDT

      Cantor wants a lightening rod candidate for more polarization and divisiveness in the nation. Looks like he's hoping to join Roger Ailes staff at FAUX Noise in the future...?

      Republicans are saying it's still early with hopes that an unknown Star will jump in the presidential race. Based on history and a review of the entire Republican Party, this is about as plausible as the Rapture. What you see is what you get.

      Really, it is a commentary on the deeper problems of the GOP/TP. Their platform of supply-side voodoo economics, Bush doctrine of unilateral preemptive strike, and legislating morality has been debunked and rejected. The Teabaggers original mantra of limited government could have taken hold if they had been consistent -- ending corporate welfare, letting go of Big Government legislating morality, ending loopholes (tax reform), etc.

      And of course the Republicans in the House should have been focusing on job creation, but they have no idea how to create jobs because they are still entrenched in trickle-down tax cuts for the rich to supposedly create jobs, which is why they also have no ability to balance the budget--they aren't willing to raise revenue even through tax reform.

      Going after teacher's unions (attacking the middle class and education in one swoop), food protection, and Medicare instead is the most idiotic platform they could adopt. And all those conservatives in red states collecting welfare from the Fed, and getting hit with turbulent weather, better rethink their position on the role of government and climate change and a whole slew of right-wing nonsense.

      • 1 vote
      #1.32 - Tue May 24, 2011 2:37 PM EDT

      Here's a little scoop, folks. Next "Jobs" bill from Republicans is H. R. 1475, "The Jobs, Opportunity, Benefits and Services (JOBS) Act." This bill "would let states use federal unemployment funds to reduce state taxes or take other steps they think will lead to job creation." I kid you not. Look it up.

      So now they're going to try to take away Federal unemployment benefits to facilitate further tax cuts. And we all know how well these tax cuts have worked so far - the opposite of intended.

      • 1 vote
      #1.33 - Tue May 24, 2011 3:16 PM EDT

      Cantor's endorsement was not about Ryan actually running, he is trying to paint a picture of Paul Ryan be a serious leader. By extension if you believe that Ryan is a serious leader then you will credit him with making brave steps to lead with the budget, while avoiding discussing the Kill Medicare provision directly.

        #1.34 - Tue May 24, 2011 6:36 PM EDT
        Reply

        We've GOT real leadership in OBAMA. (See the last several weeks, years.)

        Ryan can't change the topic off of his plan to demolish Medicare so he thinks selling it harder is the answer. Let him run. The rest of the country will follow Wisconsin's lead and tell him NO.

        He already knows he'll be in trouble with any re-election bid he may consider when he is up for re-election again as rep from WI. If he was paying any attention to his constituents in those town halls he just came back from he'd better change his message.

        Oh, He might as well run for the BIG office as it will be his ONLY chance ever to slither across the national political stage on his way to a political trash heap.

        • 31 votes
        Reply#2 - Mon May 23, 2011 1:58 PM EDT

        I think Cantor is asking Ryan to run because Cantor is desperate to recall that vote on Ryan's plan and somehow thinks if Ryan runs for POTUS that Cantor can make Ryan own it while the rest of the GOP back away.

        Ryan said on the Sunday talk shows that his "plan" is whatever people think it is (knowing that anybody who would vote Republican doesn't understand his "plan").

        Well Ryan, since you put it THAT way, I think your "plan" is a piece of crap, redoux from the last piece of crap that the Republicans put of for a vote.

        • 9 votes
        #2.1 - Mon May 23, 2011 7:42 PM EDT
        Comment author avatarEdward-1075991Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        So when are these MSNBC authors going to permanently ban the foul-mouthed bimbo from Illinois??

        • 1 vote
        #2.2 - Mon May 23, 2011 11:38 PM EDT

        Medicare and Medicaid are going to run off the tracks sooner if they are not coraled in some way. Social Security too. I'm 49 know the system will be bankrupt while I'm on it. I want something done. The longer nothing is done the worse the remedy required will be.

        • 1 vote
        #2.3 - Tue May 24, 2011 1:35 AM EDT

        Notice that the GOP is now accusing the Democrats of pulling a 'dirty trick' by letting the Senate vote on the Ryan budget plan?

        The GOP knows the Ryan plan is awful, and are so ashamed of it they don't even want it to come to a vote!

        • 2 votes
        #2.4 - Tue May 24, 2011 12:00 PM EDT

        Blame, deflect, deny, lie, spin. We all know that's the first 5 chapters of the repug's playbook. (think I even got them in order..)

        • 1 vote
        #2.5 - Tue May 24, 2011 5:51 PM EDT
        Reply

        Only thing Ryan should be running for or from is the vote on his budget. I think he'll be enlightened as the week progresses. Although he would all but guarantee that Obama get his second term after we expose him for the granny-robbing rethuglican that he is.

        • 19 votes
        Reply#3 - Mon May 23, 2011 2:03 PM EDT

        Cantor

        “I'm looking for the presidential candidates to embrace our formula in the Ryan Budget. I'm looking for them to embrace a leadership roles that makes tough decisions."

        Yeah, it takes REAL leadership for Ryan to do exactly what his corporate pay masters tell him to do. Oh, and also courage, as we are constantly informed by the corporate media.

        • 18 votes
        Reply#4 - Mon May 23, 2011 2:04 PM EDT

        This is too funny, the Repubs are starting to pull away from Ryan's Plan.

        Too, too funny.

        • 12 votes
        #4.1 - Mon May 23, 2011 6:34 PM EDT

        The entire GOP is starting to look more and more ridicules everyday. What is this a comedy routine on SNL? I mean Ryan? The same guy who was booed off stage by his own constituents with his scheme to destroy Medicare, Social Security and collective bargaining rights The only thing this buffoon should be running from is the law, this clown should be arrested for trying to destroy the USA. What a joke!

        • 7 votes
        #4.2 - Mon May 23, 2011 11:57 PM EDT

        He reminds me of Failing-Palin....just keeps on going....open mouth insert food...Let the fools run so we can hang them out to dry.

        • 3 votes
        #4.3 - Tue May 24, 2011 12:18 AM EDT
        Reply

        OK...if Huntsman doesn't get in the race and no other moderate gets in the race, I'm throwing my hat in the ring!! What would I bring to the race?

        -I'm better with numbers than the rest of the candidates as I believe I'm the only one with a degree in mathematics.

        -I am the only one that could likely beat President Obama in a game of one-on-one hoops. And don't think for a second that I wouldn't bring a basketball to our first debate.

        -I have a full head of non-dyed hair.

        -I have a plan to cut the deficit in half. (What? Putting the nation's tax receipt's on "Red" on the roullette wheel ISN'T a plan?)

        Sorry, had to throw a little levity into everyone's day!

        • 20 votes
        Reply#5 - Mon May 23, 2011 2:07 PM EDT

        Neat post, Frank! Thanks.

        • 7 votes
        #5.1 - Mon May 23, 2011 2:13 PM EDT

        Bet half on red and half on black and hope it doesn't come up 0 or 00.

        Then you can claim you won something. Maybe we could legalize gambling and put a federal tax on it and we'd even make out better no matter what color came up winning.

        • 8 votes
        #5.2 - Mon May 23, 2011 2:15 PM EDT

        Frank---are you old enough? Were you born in the USA? (we don't need "birtherism 2"). Who would be your VP?

        • 5 votes
        #5.3 - Mon May 23, 2011 2:15 PM EDT

        Emphasis on 'little'.

          #5.4 - Mon May 23, 2011 2:17 PM EDT

          Actually, Frank, you make a lot more sense than any republican hopefuls I've heard. But the big question--are you sure you were born in the USA and not some where else?

          • 6 votes
          #5.5 - Mon May 23, 2011 2:25 PM EDT

          Fear Not Frank: Huntsman will run. Building a social network takes time. He is far-sighted enough to plan for 2016. I doubt he can win is 2012.

          • 4 votes
          #5.6 - Mon May 23, 2011 2:33 PM EDT

          Good luck Frank ! I hope you can provide your long form birth certificate. I hear that's a real requirement now......lol

          • 1 vote
          #5.7 - Mon May 23, 2011 6:47 PM EDT

          If, (heaven forbid) I would ever vote for a Rep I'd consider Huntsman....He would certainly increase the reps chances better than those resent rejects .......No, I don't think he could play dirty politics like the GOP wants...

          • 1 vote
          #5.8 - Tue May 24, 2011 12:25 AM EDT
          Reply

          Yes, well, I just saw Paul Ryan address this in a clip from this morning, and I'm sure Cantor would love to rule the Universe, too, but he isn't going to have that, either.

          Ryan is looking at something different, further down the line.

          By the way, I say this as a person who really would like to see Ryan run. But he's not.

          • 10 votes
          Reply#6 - Mon May 23, 2011 2:11 PM EDT

           That Cantor is one funny cat.

          • 9 votes
          Reply#7 - Mon May 23, 2011 2:14 PM EDT

          Paul Ryan for President--the guy who is fighting anger at him in his home district from republicans for killing medicare and giving the savings in tax cuts to the richest 2%; the guy who declined to run for Senator in his state knowing he likely could not win a state-wide election. Seriously, do folks like Cantor think things through before speaking or just make it up as they go along? Never mind, the answer is obvious.

          I agree, Cantor is doing everything he can to undercut Boehner and to get the Speaker's job. Cantor the guy who wrote a bill, and the teapublicans passed it, claiming that if the Senate did not pass their version of the 2011 budget--the House bill becomes law. Even Boehner declined to explain that logice and sent all inquiries on that directly to Cantor's office.

          • 14 votes
          Reply#8 - Mon May 23, 2011 2:17 PM EDT

          I think Cantor is stuffing Ryan under the wheels of the bus----hang that Medicare plan around his neck. Cantor will ultimately weasel out of it by blaming it on Ryan and Boehner.

          • 14 votes
          #8.1 - Mon May 23, 2011 2:55 PM EDT
          Reply

          Where is the Democratic plan to prevent bankruptcy of Medicare?

          Dems will party with our money and buy votes , until we run out, which is coming soon enough.

          Rep. Ryan may be young, but he is the only adult in the room.

          The liberals' ideal voter is the 'adult baby' who wears pajamas, is burped, takes a bottle and gets SSI benefits....mooching off the government is the liberal's ideal life.

          • 8 votes
          Reply#9 - Mon May 23, 2011 2:21 PM EDT

          Yep, fixing medicare on the backs of seniors and anyone younger than 55 and giving the savings to the richest 2%, whose plan does not balance the budget or pay down the debt for decades but adds trillions to it is the adult in the room--and pigs fly, too.

          • 18 votes
          #9.1 - Mon May 23, 2011 2:29 PM EDT

          Yeah Bob - numbers...What Jody said. I mean really, being an adult doesn't make him a good candidate. Look at Newt. He's an adult (by definition), why not get behind him. Because you might like it?

          • 9 votes
          #9.2 - Mon May 23, 2011 3:23 PM EDT

          Well, Bob, as forecast, the Affordable Care Act is already starting to save MediCare money, and it isn't yet fully implemented.

          Not a matter of opinion, Bob, a matter of arithmetic.

          Better get on the phone to your handlers and tell them that the talking points they sent you have holes in them, again.

          • 10 votes
          #9.3 - Mon May 23, 2011 3:39 PM EDT

          you must be one of the 20% who are for ending medicare as we know it.

          does anyone even know how much this would cost us when we retire? I see no figures on Ryan's website just "you get to pick a plan like we do". so i will assume that it is really bad.

          and it is easy to decrease the taxes on the rich by 10% (really great plan) and we will finance it by having to pay through the nose when we retire and have no money. so stealing from granny, in the future, to give to richie rich now.

          welcome to the real death panels america.

          and bob i am on the left and i have worked since i was 16 so your stereotype of libs is way off base.

          • 9 votes
          #9.4 - Mon May 23, 2011 4:11 PM EDT

          Yes Yes Yes,

          Let's make sure we keep Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps and unemployment insurance. Lets not require young adults to be self sufficient until they are 25. Let Mommy and Daddy pay for them. When they reach 25, they can then start collecting from the government. Where does all this money come from? Well not the rich, they only pay half of it. The rest comes from the working class. So the working class is paying for half of the government handouts. So let's get the rich to pay more, let's make them pay for it all! Now the middle class won't have to pay, everyone on the government doles won't have to pay, only the rich. Let's see, the government spends what, 5 trillion a year? 10 Trillion. So if we add another 50% of the population onto the support roles, we will have to spend twice as much, say 10 Trillion or 20 Trillion?? That way the top 2% is paying for everything! But wait, they don't make that much money, so we will have to take all their money and still come up short. Once we take all their money, won't they be allowed to get the government handouts too? Who will be left to pay the bills?

          This whole "Free Money from the government" idea is ridiculous. It is completely unsustainable. Pay now or pay later. Nothing is free.....

          • 5 votes
          #9.5 - Mon May 23, 2011 4:33 PM EDT

          Where do the radical right get the talking points that Liberals want a government handout? I know a lot of people and not one wants to do nothing and live off the government. Are you talking about Veterans, Old people, poor people, unemployed people, disabled people, single working women, who are you talking about??? Can you name anyone who just wants free money from the government?
          This kind of low level generalization is what is destroying the USA. The rich can pay more. We can't balance the budget by cutting services and "entitlements" which we have been paying into for our entire working lives and not increase revenue. Rather than destroy medicare and Social security, just raise revenue on those who can afford it and means test the recipients. The rich in this country wouldn't be rich if not for the country. Give some back.

          • 8 votes
          #9.6 - Mon May 23, 2011 5:07 PM EDT

          Here's the new Republican plan to save money on Medicare. Mandate "Death Panels" for "Obamacare", then sneak in a law that allows the killing of anyone over 64. You can piggyback it on something like the budget, that everyone has to sign for. So everyone pays in, but no one can collect. Reminds me of that Company Matching for 401k's and for the older generations, the golden egg of all, Pensions.

          • 5 votes
          #9.7 - Mon May 23, 2011 7:26 PM EDT

          To JC in G:

          wow, what a bleak and dismal country we would live in if what you want went into play. we can replace medicare (which is not an entitlement), medicaid (children and the elderly also benefit from this program), food stamps (again, children and the elderly), and all social programs. we can replace them with rising crime, more foreclosures, more begging/panhandling, early death, sickness, homelessness, bankruptcy, and slums, i guess that works out better for you. i find that you don't mention wars, corporate welfare, earmarks, outside aid as a problem. so you would rather give billions to outside countries to help those people but not your own countrymen?

          i prefer to live in a country that cares about the less fortunate.

          and the rich pay the most in taxes because they have the most money. the gap is widening between the rich and the poor at an astounding rate so i think they are doing pretty well.

          "66 percent of the income growth between 2001 and 2007 went to the top 1% of all Americans" I don't see them complaining only the people who want to be them one day.

          • 2 votes
          #9.8 - Tue May 24, 2011 9:05 AM EDT
          Reply

          doesnt cantor just remind you of eddie haskel

          • 13 votes
          Reply#10 - Mon May 23, 2011 2:27 PM EDT

          Oh my gosh--he does! Pandering, flattering, disingenuous.

          • 12 votes
          #10.1 - Mon May 23, 2011 2:30 PM EDT

          LMAO, yes he does! But doesn't Ryan look like him? Thanks for the laugh!

          • 6 votes
          #10.2 - Mon May 23, 2011 3:57 PM EDT
          Reply

          “Sure, I think Paul is about real leadership,” Cantor said in response to a question of whether he would like to see the congressman make a bid.

          Question: Is it "leadership" if nobody follows you?

          • 12 votes
          Reply#11 - Mon May 23, 2011 2:28 PM EDT

          OR:

          If you have no leadership skills and people still follow you, are you a leader?

          • 8 votes
          #11.1 - Mon May 23, 2011 2:40 PM EDT

          The majority of people right now are not following our current Dear Leader. That would be because he doesn't have the leadership skills to be in charge of a boy scout troop. The only thing he can do is an excellent speech - written by someone else and read from a teleprompter. The signature achievement by Dear Leader is more unpopular than ever with more than 50% of the people wanting it repealed. Right in the middle of next year's election cycle the SCOTUS will rule it unconstitutional. Bye, bye 0bama. The GOP's best team to take the WH is Paul Ryan with Marco Rubio as the VP. With Rubio as the VP candidate Eric Holder would be deporting legal Hispanic voters. Nov 6 2012 - "The End of an Error" Only 533 days away.

          • 2 votes
          #11.2 - Mon May 23, 2011 5:20 PM EDT

          @black_belt3

          Marco Rubio is a crook. He would currently be in jail if the republican party of florida did not decline to prosocute. He stole somewhere in the neighborhood of $50K from party donors and spent it on personal stuff for him and gifts for his wife. He also wanted to spend a half mill of taxpayer dollars to rehab a soccer field he played at (he had the money to pay for it himself but why spend your own money right con party?)

          Hitching your wagon to a crook is risky policy. As for Paul Ryan. according to his plan, you will get $5k 10 years from now to buy your ins. That amount will increase 2% per year.

          1 find insurance for that price if you are 65 with any type of issues

          2 My insurance man (pre-obama) told my company due to demographics (I assume you know what those are) insurance costs will inc 10-15% per year. So if you could initially afford insurance you won't be able to for long

          Sorry about telling the truth sir. You will have to contact Limbaugh for your reply

          • 2 votes
          #11.3 - Tue May 24, 2011 8:15 AM EDT
          Reply

          Oops!

          www.zdnet.com/blog/igeneration/video-obamas-beast-car-gets-stuck-on-ramp-in-dublin/10204

          I hope Pat has this one lined up for her "I love the President collection."

          • 2 votes
          Reply#12 - Mon May 23, 2011 2:29 PM EDT

          So what????

          • 4 votes
          #12.1 - Mon May 23, 2011 2:31 PM EDT

          Alan,

          I fail to see the signifance of your post, nor what at all it has to do with Cantor or Ryan. But hey, thanks for sharing.

          • 4 votes
          #12.2 - Mon May 23, 2011 3:29 PM EDT

          So Alan: Was Obama driving the car? Did he build the driveway? What the hell is your point anyway. That the car he was riding in high centered? That's your point? You amuse very easy.

          • 4 votes
          #12.3 - Mon May 23, 2011 4:53 PM EDT
          Reply

          Missy....sit down and be quiet !..eat your desert before it all runs together !

          • 1 vote
          Reply#13 - Mon May 23, 2011 2:41 PM EDT

          NO! I like my dessert runny. Yummy that way.

          Say it isn't so sweet on your side?

          Just wait 'til AMERICA stands up and screams NO to the face of the GOP/TP mounted on their next campaign poster.

          OBAMA 2012!

          • 7 votes
          #13.1 - Mon May 23, 2011 6:04 PM EDT
          Reply

          The Republican nomination process is like a bad horror flick...they keep digging up the dead.

          • 8 votes
          Reply#14 - Mon May 23, 2011 3:14 PM EDT

          Getting even better....Pawlenty goes to Iowa and comes out against farm subsidies!

          • 6 votes
          Reply#15 - Mon May 23, 2011 3:18 PM EDT

          Ethanol subsidies are a bad idea. Pawlenty was just stating a fact. I think that takes courage. Americans are big enough to hear the truth from those who wish to be in leadership positions.

          • 4 votes
          #15.1 - Mon May 23, 2011 3:26 PM EDT

          By and large, i believe that America is NOT ready for that much truth. We deserve a little lie here and there.

          • 1 vote
          #15.2 - Mon May 23, 2011 3:32 PM EDT

          This may be the only thing Pawlenty has said that I agree with. I may have to reconsider my postion.

            #15.3 - Mon May 23, 2011 3:49 PM EDT

            Bryan - if you like a little lie now and then - just DVR when 0bama speaks - which is every day. You will quickly fill the largest DVR available but you will have plenty of what you desire. Lie after lie after lie after lie.

            • 1 vote
            #15.4 - Mon May 23, 2011 5:24 PM EDT

            black_belt3, how about Bryan just go back and watch this instead?

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzrJwzYBUkU

              #15.5 - Mon May 23, 2011 9:38 PM EDT

              @black_belt3 - provide specific lies that Obama has told. Also site your source when you stated in your previous post: "The signature achievement by Dear Leader is more unpopular than ever with more than 50% of the people wanting it repealed."

              I am waiting.

              • 5 votes
              #15.6 - Mon May 23, 2011 9:51 PM EDT

              too tough a challenge. Can't cite what isn't there, regardless what Hannity, Beck, Flush et al say :)

              • 1 vote
              #15.7 - Tue May 24, 2011 6:01 PM EDT
              Reply

              Crooks in congress:No one has been able to explain to me why young men and women serve in
              the
              U.S. Military for 20 years, risking their lives protecting freedom,
              and only
              get 50% of their pay. While politicians hold their political
              positions in the
              safe confines of the capital, protected by these same
              men and women, and
              receive full pay retirement after serving one term.
              It just does not make any
              sense.

              Monday on Fox news they learned that the staffers of Congress
              family
              members are exempt from having to pay back student loans. This will
              get
              national attention if other news networks will broadcast it. When
              you
              add this to the below, just where will all of it stop?

              35
              States file lawsuit against the Federal Government

              Governors of 35
              states have filed suit against the Federal Government
              for imposing unlawful
              burdens upon them. It only takes 38 (of the 50)
              States to convene a
              Constitutional Convention.

              This will take less than thirty seconds to
              read. If you agree, please
              pass it on.

              This is an idea that we should
              address.

              For too long we have been too complacent about the workings of Congress.
              Many citizens had no idea that members of Congress could retire
              with the
              same pay after only one term, that they specifically exempted
              themselves
              from many of the laws they have passed (such as being exempt from
              any
              fear of prosecution for sexual harassment) while ordinary citizens
              must
              live under those laws.. The latest is to exempt themselves from
              the
              Healthcare Reform... in all of its forms. Somehow, that doesn't
              seem
              logical. We do not have an elite that is above the law. I truly
              don't
              care if they are Democrat, Republican, Independent or whatever.
              The
              self-serving must stop.

              If each person that receives this will
              forward it on to 20 people, in
              three days, most people in The United States
              of America will have the
              message.. This is one proposal that really should be
              passed around.

              Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution:
              "Congress
              shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States
              that
              does not apply equally to the Senators and/or Representatives;
              and,
              Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators
              and/or
              Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of
              the
              United States."

              • 4 votes
              Reply#16 - Mon May 23, 2011 3:28 PM EDT

              TruthFinder: Better recheck your facts. No one in Congress gets a pension after one term, and very few if any of them get full pay even after about 30 years. That is a big mistake that has been passed along for a long time. I am not a Congress lover, but facts are facts.

              Plus they have not exempted themselves from the Health Care Reform. They are mandated to buy from one of the insurance pools that will be set up in 2014. You may be referring to one of the bills that never passed. That is the big rumor going around, and it is wrong.

              • 2 votes
              #16.1 - Mon May 23, 2011 4:58 PM EDT
              Reply

              Of course Cantor has "all the answers"....like most in the GOP..

              Of course he also said "He would not be running"....like most in the GOP...

              Nothing unusual about Cantor wanting Ryan to throw himself out as the sacrificial lamb....he just doesn't have the cajones to do it himself.

              Got to like the GOP mindset - Ryan can't run for the Senate in WI because of the Ryan Plan...so let's have him run nationally!

              Kind of like Santorum - loses by 19 pts in his own state....have him run nationally!

              Me smell "Desperation"!

              • 5 votes
              Reply#17 - Mon May 23, 2011 3:33 PM EDT

              LOL, the input of the far left. Ryan isn't running for the Senate because Tommy Thompson is. Chock up another Senate seat from the Democratic column to the GOP. Instead of call everyone from the right names. Why don't you try defending the Obama record without mentioning Bush. Not too easy is it.

              • 1 vote
              #17.1 - Mon May 23, 2011 4:01 PM EDT

              Roy

              will you show the link where Tommy annouced he is running?

              if not - maybe you can stick to the facts!

              and - if Tommy does run - doesn't that go against the GOP mantra of "fresh new faces - fresh new ideas" and the TP mantra of"No More Career Politicians"?

              guess you on the right just can't help yourselves!

              • 2 votes
              #17.2 - Mon May 23, 2011 4:51 PM EDT

              Imagine going into the voting booth and being a dyed in the wool liberal Democrat that remembers very well what happened on Nov 2, 2010 and the only name you can vote for on the Dem side is B.Hussein 0bama. Talk about a feeling of panic, despair and desperation.

              • 2 votes
              #17.3 - Mon May 23, 2011 5:33 PM EDT

              Imagine going into the voting booth and having no viable GOP candidate to vote for....

              Talk about panic, despair and desperation....

              The good news for you "black" you won't need to wait to have those feelings until 2012....

              You and your Party are experiencing those feelings "right now"!

              • 8 votes
              #17.4 - Mon May 23, 2011 5:39 PM EDT
              Reply

              Wow, that Can'tor guy can really be hilarious when he wants to!

              LMFAO! Agent Orange has needed to put a short leash on this bozo for some time, now. Ryan's Hope is hanging around the necks of the House Republicans like a concrete block, and Can'tor just reminded everyone of it, again.

              • 5 votes
              Reply#18 - Mon May 23, 2011 3:34 PM EDT

              Ultimately, it doesn't matter which Repug runs, no one is going to beat President Obama.  They are pathetic.

              • 5 votes
              Reply#19 - Mon May 23, 2011 3:37 PM EDT

              Just anyone that the GOP puts up there. 0bama will win 13 blue states and DC. 0bama has turned Ohio, PA, VA, NC and Florida very Red with his policies and 0bama can't win without all of those - plus 0bama starts 14 electoral college votes in the hole due to the census reorg of electoral votes. ha ha ha

              • 4 votes
              #19.1 - Mon May 23, 2011 5:39 PM EDT

              LOL black, wake up, you're dreaming again. Nothing constructive to say, just midless panic dribble. LOL

              • 2 votes
              #19.2 - Tue May 24, 2011 10:14 AM EDT
              Reply

              Let me ask this. Where were Cantor and Ryan when Bush ran the economy into the tank. Answer: In Congress helping him by never voting against anything he wanted. They must have been Liberals then and have just become conservatives.

              • 5 votes
              Reply#20 - Mon May 23, 2011 3:45 PM EDT

              Don't you mean ran it into the toilet? In which case Obama pulled the lever and flushed the whole economy. Now that he utterly has failed, what are we supposed to do? After spending trillions to get the economy going with nothing to show for it, could Ryan do any worse than Obama. The Democratic party is still convinced they can blame everything on Bush. How well did that work in the 2010 election? The 2012 election is about Obama and his policies, you better start figuring out how to defend them. Because the "Bush did it" is old, tired and isn't flying.

              • 2 votes
              #20.1 - Mon May 23, 2011 3:57 PM EDT

              Ray, you guys need to call of the Kochs and demand some new material. They really can't expect you to keep trolling this same stale old bull@!$%#.

              Here's what the sane members of the electorate see:

              The economy sucks, but it sucks a lot less than it did during Bush's final year or two.

              Yes, we are in debt, but we have been in debt since before Reagan, and he and the two Bushes made it worse, not better. Moreover, the prior administration stated out loud that "debt doesn't matter", and lived by that credo until late January, 2009, whereupon the debt suddenly became the single biggest issue facing America today. According to the people who piled on the debt, because it didn't matter.

              Now, the Republicans are asking us to all double down on their economic stewardship by embracing Ryan's Hope, which all but four of them voted for in the House. Not only does it harm MediCare, a very popular program, it seeks to return us to the same top tax bracket as Treasury Secretary Mellon managed in the 1920's. Just before the Great Depression.

              The Republicans seriously are misunderestimating our intelligence.

              • 8 votes
              #20.2 - Mon May 23, 2011 4:09 PM EDT

              Again, the running against Bush was a miserable failure in the 2010 elections. When a President runs for re-election it is about HIS record. Obama said elect me in 2008 because he could solve the problems. Then when everything he tried doesn't work, he just blames push. When you are made captain of the ship, you are responsible for where it goes. We have spent $4 trillion during just 2-1/2 years of Obama, that isn't Bush's fault. We wasted a huge stimulus program with no economic results, that isn't Bush's fault. You passed a health care act that even your Democratic buddies and unions want no part of and 65% of American want to either repeal or totally start over with, that isn't Bush's fault. You were supposed to get us out of two wars and now we have three. Run on your record not some scare tactics.

              • 1 vote
              #20.3 - Mon May 23, 2011 4:27 PM EDT

              Keep telling yourself that, Ray. You are a good little dittohead.

              Seriously, you all need new material. I tried to tell you.

              • 7 votes
              #20.4 - Mon May 23, 2011 4:34 PM EDT

              ." Run on your record not some scare tactics."

              Ray- do you mean EVERYBODY, or just Obama? This should be interesting.........

              • 4 votes
              #20.5 - Mon May 23, 2011 4:38 PM EDT

              JC - yours is the party that is running with the same "??leadership??" team that got "shellacked" on Nov 2 2010 to quote your dear leader. GOP can't wait to run against 0bama, Reid & Piglosi again - not a very inspiring group - oh and I forgot Joe (gaffe a minute) Biden. ha ha

              • 2 votes
              #20.6 - Mon May 23, 2011 5:37 PM EDT

              Uh, black-belt, do you understand the difference between a mid-term election and a Presidential election? Have your helper-animal see if he can explain it to you.

              The GzeroP can't wait to run against Obama, huh?

              Then, why are they all running away from Obama, except the pitiable fringe who have nothing to lose?

              • 6 votes
              #20.7 - Mon May 23, 2011 6:45 PM EDT
              Comment author avatarEdward-1075991Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

              Sorry Black Belt,

              Harry reid is in for six more years. Nancy will never lose in her faggot district.

              THE GOOD NEWS......There are 22 Democratic Senators that come up for re-election in November 2012. Republicans only need a net gain of three seats to gain control of the Senate. this moves Harry Reid to the back of the bus. Way in back. Dump Obama and win the Senate and retain control of the House. Not to difficult, since the Dems are playing into our hands more and more every week.

                #20.8 - Mon May 23, 2011 11:24 PM EDT

                Now that is the funniest thing that I have heard all day. The GOP and the Tea Party will lose members because of the Ryan plan and the vote on it. You have NO viable candidates. LOL

                • 3 votes
                #20.9 - Tue May 24, 2011 12:32 AM EDT
                Reply

                 I did not know that Cantor was into smoking weed.

                • 3 votes
                Reply#21 - Mon May 23, 2011 3:46 PM EDT

                Danielle,

                Cantor does not smoke weed, he is to much of a jerk (I am polite)

                • 3 votes
                #21.1 - Mon May 23, 2011 3:50 PM EDT

                I did not know Cantor was dropped on his head as baby.

                • 6 votes
                #21.2 - Mon May 23, 2011 3:50 PM EDT
                Reply

                Cantor,,,,? that little puke that follows the town crier around like a puppy dog..that one? The GOP gets worse everyday letting the little creep speak in public.

                • 7 votes
                Reply#22 - Mon May 23, 2011 3:48 PM EDT

                whoever beats O'Bama will have to spend the first 6 months in office apologizing for the apologist

                • 2 votes
                Reply#23 - Mon May 23, 2011 3:51 PM EDT

                All the left wing is trashing Ryan now. They are telling us that Obama is still a genius and all these Republicans are worthless. I just have to wonder what the Democratic standard for the title "genius' is? With all the failure at almost everything in the Obama administration, what title do you get if you actually accomplish something?

                • 2 votes
                Reply#24 - Mon May 23, 2011 3:52 PM EDT

                Ray,, we don't have to say much,,,the GOP is on a in party cannibalism course,,, why spoil a good flick,,popcorn anyone?

                • 7 votes
                #24.1 - Mon May 23, 2011 3:58 PM EDT

                Remember, re-election is about the Obama record. Of course, you want to attack the GOP candidates. What accomplishments do you have to run on? As James Carville said "It's the economy stupid" The economic news out today is not good at all. So I know you are trashing every possible Republican candidate because that is your only option at this point.

                • 2 votes
                #24.2 - Mon May 23, 2011 4:15 PM EDT

                You Ray, are the last of the great pretenders.

                President Obama and the democrats, have managed to at least slow down the destruction to our economy that was occurring before President Obama took office. We were loosing 700.00 jobs a month when this administration took over. We are gaining jobs again. The big three American auto idles were going down yet were brought back by the current government. Iraq has been scaled down and Afghanistan was started again to catch and kill mastermind behind 9/11. College students can be insured by their parents. The wind and solar industries have a vigorous start. Domestic oil production has increased by 11%. Three electric autos are now available for purchase.

                I think you are just old and tired Ray. You cannot keep up. You had better go nap.

                • 6 votes
                #24.3 - Mon May 23, 2011 4:20 PM EDT

                Ray, we all know you want to believe that, but Bush's "accomplishments" keep interjecting themselves into the race, because the country is still trying to recover from some of them.

                It is interesting to note that, of all the Republican candidates and "possibles", I can't recall even one of them running on Bush's record. They all seem to want to keep up the pretense that history started in late January, 2009. Same as you keep trying to peddle.

                Unfortunately for you all, the majority of voters are considerably more aware of the very recent history of the United States than you would like them to be.

                • 5 votes
                #24.4 - Mon May 23, 2011 4:20 PM EDT

                I guess that would make you Superman in their book. Of course "accomplishing" something carries a completely different definition for the socialist liberals. accomplishing something to them means giving YOUR money away.

                  #24.5 - Mon May 23, 2011 11:28 PM EDT

                  Edward, that was just a dumbass rant. From start to finish.

                  You wingnuts really shouldn't try to work off-script. It is embarrassingly moronic when you do.

                  • 3 votes
                  #24.6 - Tue May 24, 2011 12:16 AM EDT

                  Edward likes to scream about "giving money away". what Edward really means is he wishes he had some money he could claim was being given away.

                  • 1 vote
                  #24.7 - Tue May 24, 2011 10:21 AM EDT
                  Reply

                  Nothing is funnier than reading posts from a bunch of people who think all of our problems are the fault of one party, while the other party has all the answers.

                  Both parties have put short term politics before long term solutions for as long as I can remember. Neither party has actually implemented a solution to any of this country's major problems, while both have had ample opportunity.

                  As for Ryan, I like a guy that is willing to offer outside the box thinking. Maybe his isn't the right plan, but at least its a plan. Maybe it will spur the discussion that eventually generates the solution. Reciting the party platform off an index card, like so many in Washington (and on the net) do, hasn't gotten anything done for anybody.

                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#25 - Mon May 23, 2011 4:16 PM EDT

                  See my response at #27, tidho; it started out here, then moved itself when I edited it.

                    #25.1 - Mon May 23, 2011 4:29 PM EDT

                    Good reply, at least Ryan has a starting point. Maybe it isn't the whole answer but he is doing something about it. The just borrow more money won't work anymore. If the Democrats don't like Ryan's plan, come up with something. You can't tax enough to solve the problem. If you take 100% of the income of the people making over $250,000, you are still almost a trillion away from balancing the budget. That is how far and how much they have increased the spending. There is no answer to the problem without major, major budget cuts.

                    • 2 votes
                    #25.2 - Mon May 23, 2011 4:33 PM EDT

                    No, Ray, a "starting point" is not something that all but four House Republicans vote for. When they voted for it, it became the Republican Budget Bill.

                    Now, you all get to live with the blow-back from your Budget Bill.

                    • 2 votes
                    #25.3 - Mon May 23, 2011 4:37 PM EDT

                    It is not a starting point to propose the eliminatin of medicare while cutting taxes for wealthy individuals and corporations. It's more of a GOP wet dream.

                    • 4 votes
                    #25.4 - Mon May 23, 2011 6:51 PM EDT

                    mike430

                    It's more of a GOP wet dream.

                    It's corporate fascism!

                    • 2 votes
                    #25.5 - Tue May 24, 2011 12:40 AM EDT
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