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Subscribe to RSSOn MSNBC's "Andrea Mitchell Reports," Pakistan's ambassador to the U.S. stressed that the Pakistani government wasn't complicit in hiding Osama bin Laden and
Said Husain Haqqani:
The fact remains that no one in the United States government has alleged that the Pakistani government was in any way complicit in keeping Osama bin Laden there. So I think that is something we should be very clear about. However, did our intelligence services or our law enforcement fail to perform optimally in not discovering him earlier? That is a question that we are examining ourselves.
[snip]
A lot of people in Pakistan are upset over the intrusion into Pakistan -- an infringement of Pakistani sovereignty, and a statement has been made to that effect that has, I've seen, received some media commentary. All I will say is that we have had a situation. I understand the American concerns. I understand why America acted the way it did. We will talk about it between ourselves. We are allies and partners, and sometimes allies and partners face embarrassing or difficult moments, but we will work together because that is the only way forward.
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I think we better read between the lines on this one. This does not pass the smell test and I suspect there is another shoe waiting to fall.
So the Pakistani ambassador says we are friends and partners. What else did you say? Continue to send us money. You're kidding, Right?
"And don't forget the maps of your troop movements and access codes for your UAV fleet?"
As someone mentioned earlier - this is either a case of GROSS incompetence OR they we're complacent in protecting bin Laden!
NO MORE funding until we get to the bottom of this...
Another excellent move on behalf of the President, CIA and military in NOT telling them ahead of time!
Pakistani ambassador - "Its all good; we're still buds. At least as long as China tells us to be. Can we have some more money, you lnow, one friend to another?"
To All:
I just heard that the e-mails circulating claiming to have a pic of the DEAD bin Laden contain viruses...
Open at your own peril...
THanks, Feisty. I'll wait for the movie!
So, as to Pakistan, a Senator on Cenk tonight (can't remember who) said we give Pakistan between 1.5 to 4 billion a year, both military and humanitarian aid. Still, every where the military isn't, the country looks poor. So, here is a place our teabaggers can find to slash some budget line items. Also, how about stopping the Afghanistan War - 2 billion a week. We could have all the budget items these dorks cut by not being in Afghanistan for 19 weeks!
Good to see you my friend! I've got some nice HOT *popcorn* lol
And kool aid
I have a heavy preference for Sammie Adams. Kool Aid is for teabaggers in the summer!
They swill hatoraide year round! ;o)
ROFLMAO... that stuff is sticky sweet and really puts on the pounds!
Pass that popcorn, here's a Sammie.
Here you go & I don't mind if I do... Thanx!
Well how surprising - no article on Canada here at First Read. But the Libbies did so well.
Now why do you suppose the winning argument was lowering the corporate tax rates? Don't they got a gianormous health care system to fund?
Oh well maybe tomorrow?
In the grand scheme of things, Spanky, I really doubt the conservatives taking a majority in Canada's parliament suggests a threat to America's national security. I don't think they're going to stop selling us maple syrup and beaver costumes.
Even as someone who has a conservative bent, I'm vastly more interested in what might happen with the Pakistani government and our relationship with them going forward than politicking about trying to win ego points on a blog.
Aw, poor Spanky, he can't get No One to comment on why Canada has Conservatives in Office!
Will they Now be Financing the Global war on Terror or are they the same kinda Conservatives America has:
All Hat & No Cattle kinda Conservatives!
ROFLMAO!
Hey Spanky, Go Cruising, it's only 3:30 your time.
Spanky, go to the main page, type "canada" in the search box...
OMG Spanky! Whatever will that mean for the Stanley Cup playoffs? PANIC NOW!
I'm good hanging here with you Rick.
And Come on ED - what will happen is we will keep sending them cash and they will keep screwing us.
Simple. Canada is a whole different matter. So mush for the libbie ascention.
Are we in Canada, Spanky? By the way, you might want to study the Conservative Party in Canada. They're not as "conservative" as you might like to think.
see also: RINOs
OH~! CANADA!!! ...you naughty, hussy, you! ;)
I was perusing RCP today. According to them the Canadian conservatives have had to make a lot of concession in the past - cause they were the minority, but now that they are a firm majority and broke the Quebec block all bets are off and its off to conservative races.
So I suppose we will see. But you got to be seeing the big ugly handwriting on the world wall - progressive principles are taking a beating lately.
But then again everybody gets mighty conservative when they can't pay their own bills. Same it seems with governments. Getting pretty austere in places like England, Ireland, Greece, Spain....
And gosh Indy are there any teams from Canada in the playoffs any longer?
WELL so much for bi-partisanship!
The douche bag - W just refused President Obama's invitation to attend the memorial on Thursday!
Guess he's too busy clearing BRUSH!
Give IT UP - Mr. President - the ONLY agenda of the right wing nit wits is to see your DEMISE!
Have YOU heard about the lonesome LOSER?
Yes, Feisty, I read that President Bush was invited to attend the ceremony and has declined.
I imagine the decline might be for a couple of reasons. President Bush has more class than our current President and is choosing to be gracious. This is President Obama’s moment, and he should bask in it.
Another reason might just be wise judgment. After all, not too long ago, President Obama invited Paul Ryan to a speech and proceeded to blast him and his ideas right to his face. I wouldn’t fault President Bush, or anybody, to be leary of President Obama’s invitations, especially while President Obama is in campaign mode.
Bush was born into an elite class of racists. If you feel his willingness to lie, cheat and steal to further the aims of the elitists is "classy" then you have redifined the word.
So Candy - please tell us what BETTER time to start practicing what the righties preach?
PULEEZE - did you seriously just comment the the bumbiling idiot has more 'class' than our current President?
W was a WHOLE lot of things - the least of them being GRACIOUS!
Keep on smokin - whatever it is you have handy honey! lmao
Why is there a “ceremony” at all?
I heard the news on Sunday night and watched the President’s announcement, my heart sunk. I was glad of the elimination of bin Laden, but more so, the feelings I felt on 911 came rushing back – the shock, the sadness, the heartache and the emptiness of that day.
I watched with a heavy heart the crowds cheering at the White House and crowds forming in New York. It was jubilation as if someone’s team just won a sports event. Do we actually celebrate with smiles and glee the capture of a mass murderer? Or do we pause and reflect on the sorrow the families and the country endured and the senselessness of it all?
The scenes from Washington and New York were disturbingly reminiscent of the video shown on 9/12 of cheering groups in Pakistan waving flags and firing shots in the air giddy at the destruction of the Towers and giddy at the loss of American lives. We should be better than that. The reaction to this event is inappropriate. I saw one reporter/pundit/talking head today say our jubilation will be used as propaganda against us one day. He is probably right.
Bin Laden has been irrelevant for years. Many of us assumed he was dead already since no one’s heard from him in so long. Those around the world who hate us are not going to disband because of his demise. To hold a ceremony celebrating the victory only elevates him to a higher level of perception than he deserves. He was a speck. He should not be glorified. I don’t recall a “ceremony” or photo op at the capture of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed – the actual mastermind of the attacks. What is the President thinking?
REALLY? Spoken like a full fledged ConservatiVille moon bat!
For once, if you and your side had a rational counter view it would be welcome!
In the meantime,
This BLACK President could CURE cancer and you & your ilk would still B!TCH!
SAVE the race baiting card honey and enlighten us as to WHAT it is that drives your HATE!
Goood LORD - you morons makes this too easy!
Bottom line is - you couldn't OR wouldn't give this President credit ON ANY level if you and or you kids lives depended on it!
Hatred & ENVY my freind will eat you from within - BON APETIT!
Bush stood at ground zero and pledged to hunt down the people who brought these buildings down. What was the point of that ceremony if we didn't hope to one day return to that spot with evidence in hand of our having made good on that promise?
Red,
It was nice and appropriate and gracious that President Obama called President Bush initially. It was also right and nice and gracious that he invited him to attend whatever this event is going to be.
It was also right and gracious and understandable that President Bush declined.
Hate and envy will also make you boil inside, type so fast and hit "Post" without thinking or proof reading. Spell check, sweet Red....
I give President Obama much credit for removing the "speck" bin Laden from this world. I am in awe, again, as always, of our military. I am in prayer for the families who lost loved ones in 9/11 and for our country --as most of us remember that day with tears.
Wow, Candice you pushed Feisty's buttons, it might be time for you to tuck and roll. Seriously, I heard that President Bush said thanks but not thanks (he's pulling a Johnny Carson)
Walk out of the spotlight and fade to black. His time is over, let the newbie grab the spotlight. No disrespect, its just time to move on. Its all good.
Your silence to my question speaks volumes.
Mr. Ambassador,
The candy store will be open first thing, Wednesday morning! Could we say, perhaps, another $5-billion will make you feel good about us again?
Is it possible OBL was paying people to keep quiet? At the same time we give the Pakistani government billions. Such a deal!
Could very well be Tom!
I heard this morning (think it was on the Today Show) that when kids playing ball in the neighborhood would send it over the fence - guards would come out and pay them instead of returning the ball...
Verrry Interesting..
I believe it Fiesty. I wonder how far up it goes up. I'm sure we don't want to hurt their feelings so it probably would be better to just cover it up.
I jest about hurting their feelings. How about linking any money to real progress on their part rooting out terrorists. My God, the guy was practically rubbing elbows with the Pakistani elite.
The only thing missing Tom - was a flashing NEON sign...
I look for Pakistan in the next 6-12 months to finally engage in the Terror effort that most of the World has confronted & tracked to Pakistan.
It's just a guess, but i'ma thinking this National Embarrassment will be key!
BTW, where is the Carnival Barker Donald Trump? President Obama smackedem around a little saturday night & then Kicked his A$$ off the stage Sunday night!
What, you say, he's still rubbing his Sore A$$, o well then!
What a joke! There is NO WAY that I'm convinced that the Pakistan government didn't know he was there? VERY close to their military? For procection-- they protected him for 10 YEARS-- Give me a break.
Anita, I won't go so far as to point a finger straightaway...
...however, Pakistan is, at best, negligent and, at worst, complicit in this whole affair.
"Lucy, you got some 'splainin' to do!"
Noid;
I don't like it when anyone ties to pour pee down my back then tell me its raining.
Yes the certinally DO have some SERIOUS SPLAININ to do.
We are alleys and partners as long as you keep send us bribes ! Otherwise your on your own ! We really need to end these covert operations taking taxpayer dollars for all this foolishness...They live in mansions that they built with "OUR" money as our people lose their social security and Medicare ...as we borrow money to offerer them the republican lifestyle !
Aw, it's okay. If this makes you feel bad, don't worry, I think Spanky's got your back.
Come on Noid the only person's back I got is my own. Hello, conservative here.
Well ok I got Bev.'s back too.
We are allies and partners as long as you keep sending us bribes ! Otherwise your on your own ! We really need to end these covert operations using taxpayer dollars for all this foolishness...They live in mansions that they built with "OUR" money as our people lose their social security and Medicare ...as "WE" borrow money to offerer them the republican lifestyle !
So what happens if we stop funding them? They have nukes, right? What will happen if we walk away? I hope this is not one of those knee jerk moments.
Say it isn't so - Republican lifestyle? Please explain.
This just shows you how the congress throws away billions of your hard earned dollars ...I think the people need to vote on every dollar that is sent anywhere....its apparent ..we need to take the power of the purse away from the congress ! They have shown us by sending billions to all these countries who hate us ....and WE have been told we cant have social security or Medicare....screw congress ..i would rather get rid of THEM !!!