In First Thoughts this morning, we predicted that Mitt Romney -- who hadn't yet declared if he would attend -- would probably not show up to Thursday's GOP presidential debate in South Carolina, especially after last night's news.
And now we can confirm he WON'T be in attendance.
Per a statement from top Romney aide Matt Rhoades:
"Gov. Romney will not be participating in this week's South Carolina debate because it's still early, the field is too unsettled and he's not yet an announced candidate. Fox News and the South Carolina Republican Party have both been notified of this decision. Gov. Romney is planning to visit South Carolina on May 21st and he looks forward to debating there closer to their primary."
Michele Bachmann also won't be attending the debate.


Is any Republican running against our President in 2012? They keep retreating. What is going on? I don't plan on voting for any of them but let us have a good debate. Ideas are shared during good debates. The nation becomes richer for it. I'm talking about debates between real candidates like Romney and Pawlenty. Not including airheads like Trump, Bachmann and Palin. That only supplies us with comedy fodder for late night TV and White House Correspondent's Dinners.
A debate without Bachmann will be too boring to watch.
Hey AnaB--
Sadly, there is nothing that even the so-called "real" Repub candidates can debate. They are busy sharpening their anti-Obama rhetoric rather than thinking about innovative, effective, positive solutions for managing this country's ills. For once I want to see one of these "real" guys grow some cojones and denounce the lunatic fringe rather than cow towing to their every whim by action (like Daniels' recent appeasement with Planned Parenthood defund) or inaction (Republican brass remaining quiet during all the birther talk). Until then, they are all just a bunch of biased, flip-flopping, lunatic, boring deranged politicos looking for a job!
They're not worried about it! The 2008 election dragged on far too long, it was
painful to watch Obama democrats demonize, ridicule and bash Hillary....
nobody's forgotten about that, either.
They are not retreating. They, especially Romney, don't have any convictions so they want to wait as long as possible before officially declaring so they can then take their stands based on the political winds at that time and have less of a chance of flip flopping while using their 20-20 hindsight to talk about what they would have done now to fix whatever problems at that time.
They all know they will be defeated by our President!
I have. Then again, I got over it. Why don't you? BTW, I guess that 3:00 Phone call was answered by Obama just fine. But go ahead and dwell on it.
What if the Republican's hold a debate for qualified presidential candidates and no one shows up ?
Ana it's e a r l y! Really too early.
republican debate put on by fox news, whats the point? other than free air time.
Come on, GOP! Pick some candidates and let's get this thing going.....
Banana, what do you have against comedy?
This is just a political calculation on his part--There's no gain here for hm to participate this early, but Romney is still the presumed front runner. Why get attacked by your fellow R's this early--especially on what has turned out to be a very good week for Obama.
Im going to catch what I can of it, the stuff that comes out of their mouths is hilarious, sometimes derogitory, kinda like a long running joke in Family Guy. LOL "Im gonna hate that rock, I hate you, I hate you....."
What are they....French?
Mitt who?
Or, what Fox debate? They can't get a group large enough to have a debate, what a bunch of losers!
Say it isn't so.
That's like saying "do we call him Barack Obama or Barry Soetoro?" Only his hairdresser knows....lol...
I'm hoping that its just Ron Paul, Johnson from NM, and what his face the entrepeneur who is Officially in the race....with those 3 on stage...maybe they'll actually talk about the issues...like eliminating the private bankers at the Federal Reserve from our fiscal and monetary policy, or halting corporate welfare and "corporate free speech", or taxing consumption instead of income.
If you tax consumption instead of income, then the poorest will pay tax on everything they make, while the wealthy will only pay tax on a fraction of their income. Sounds like a recipe for even more deficits to me. For the life of me, I can't understand why people think the answer to deficits is tax cuts. It hasn't worked yet.
The world operated on consumption only taxes for most of the last 500 years. The reason the income tax was generated was so that we, as US citizens, could pay back the bankers that loan us the money for our government to operate. We don't pay down our national debt....we pay the interest...there is no way to EVER GET TO BEING DEBT FREE as long as we are paying interest to the people that own the Federal Reserve Bank.
As for the poor paying more...we'll just have to progressively tax things. Food staples get a 5% tax rate....gold plated water faucets get a 45% tax rate.
@stoptheinsanity post #3: I don't think that is likely to happen. Where do you think the repub. conservative con artists get their funding? By the way, I know your comment was tongue in cheek. I just had to respond. I liked it.
As a result of the Great Depression, there were laws on the books that said no CEO could make more than 40 times the lowest paid worker....if we eliminate the ABILITY for the UBER-RICH TO STAY UBER RICH...the equation will balance. The only way, besides an innovative idea/patent/etc, to get rich is to exploit wage differentials (domestically and abroad) make shoddy products with questionable materials, establish the long con, or buy and sell paper with inside information.
Humans need to stop ripping each other off and banking on the fact that people are idiots and won't rise up. So until we can find harmony....lets eat the rich and their ability to keep us down.
Plenty of luxury items to overtax, first class air fare, luxury cars, 5 star hotel rooms, fuel for private jets, capital gains, stock market transactions, real estate. And yes I realize that i'm a class warrior and so what.....someone needs to point out the blatantly obvious fact that the system is rigged against the common man and these people will do ANYTHING to remain on top at the expense of everyone, everything, and every institution created by the constitution for a fair constitutional republic.
Johnson, former gov. of New Mexico, many people agree with his views.
As an avowed lib, I have to agree that he seems the most rational of these loons from the right.
Because he's rational....he gets no credit or media attention.
i dont know how rational he is, but he is part and parcel with the fearmongering that cowardly republicans love to sell their bed wetting constituents:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/07/us/politics/08romney-transcript.html?pagewanted=3
id love to hear if he would like to retract those comments in the face of bin laden being caught.
Not talking about Romney.....we were talking about Gary Johnson
romney is not rational....he's a fool with money
Anything that doesn't make us a producing nation again versus consumption/service based will not help us in the long run.
Keynesian economics and central banking with bailouts and government spending only provide temporary boost to employment and GDP. If you have no manufacturing base, eventually the system will tax and spend the remaining jobs away to the point of having only super rich and super poor... We are headed that way under the current system and we need changes.
Raising tax to balance a budget without addressing underlying issues will only provide short term budget help while stacking the long term problems. Eventually we will not be able to collect enough as more Americans require help from the state. Already 40 million need food stamps... the current system is not working.
Ron Paul 2012.... Let's discuss issues with REAL DIALOGUE not partisan crap.
A Paul/Johnson ticket would make FAR too much since for America.
The establishment partisan hacks who have destroyed this country would never allow it.
Bachman doesnt answer questions anyway shes like palin if she cant stick to her scripted talking points she has nothing to say Romney at least is intelligent enough to answer serious questions
Mr. Rogers: You mean thinking voters would never allow it. (That oldest candidate of yours couldn't carry a single state let alone the nomination. Don't you remember how poorly he's done in his prior two showings? That's not the "political establishment" talking. That's ordinary folks who find him a kook .
He is very well informed on the shortcomings of our monetary policy and I agree with him to some extent regarding US foreign policy, but he inevitably goes off the deep end.
Chair of the the House Financial Services Subcommittee on Domestic Monetary Policy is probably a good place for his abilities.
Sorry... I was referring to Ron Paul in this post... just realized I never mentioned that.
Romney won't attend because he agrees with the President's Health Care Act, and then some! Bachmann won't attend because she, like Palin, Trump and others in the Republican field, speak only in prepared sound bites.
don't think so. There's a Huge difference between universal healthcare for one state, and one state Only.... and universal healthcare mandated for the Entire Country!
LOL...a huge difference! good for Massachusetts, but not good for anyone else? The fact that doesn't pass the laugh test is why Mitt is going to have a very difficult time, even with his own conservative base.
Lakerman,
While I've not decided whom I will vote for since there is only one candidate that is for certain (Obama), your argument re: "sound bites" is absurd.
Mr. Obama has yet to speak from his heart and speaks only from prepared speeches off a tele-prompter. His Presidency, thusfar, ebbs/flows with the changing tides of the political environment hence the far left's anger toward him. Before slamming his opposition, perhaps you should wait until there is actually defined opposition instead of spewing your obvious disdain toward anything other than the left.
J, a prepared, rational, thoughtful speech is preferable to speaking "from his heart". The President remains cool and collected, confident and rational. You would prefer an emotional tower of babble? The US President remains the most powerful person in the world, so let's let the President do his job from the head instead of from the heart. We have enough irrational "from the heart" crap flapping across the airwaves as it is....
Lekerman: you've swallowed that 'teleprompter' rap whole, haven't you? If you haven't heard this President speak from the heart, and without a script, then you just haven't been listening. Did you miss it again this week from Alabama? (and you did offer the same objection to teleprompter use, right, when Bush used it--badly, but he used it---)
Hell, man- they can't debate YET. They need to see where the OTHERS are on the topics, THEN decide where THEY are!
what do you do when you've got nothing to offer? you scram!!!
Mitt spent Millions in his last run for President, like his counterparty in CA, I'm sure he's thinking twice about giving away all of the family fortune especially is he can't be assurred of a win.
No! You have to be joking! Alan Keys, Steel, Trump, Bachmann and Palin would be a great act!
Do you actually know ANYTHING about Alan Keyes? He graduated Harvard with a undergrad and graduate degree, has actually run a successful business, and served his country as an ambassador. He's an accomplished writer and has a strong understanding of our economy. He, like Obama, is an African-American with strong influences from his wife who is of Indian descent.
He is a staunch conservative in every way and while I don't beleive in the most "right" ideals he possesses, I would never ignore such a well-rounded individual. Perhaps you should open your mind to look at a candidate in totality vs. slamming all on the right without consideration. He's not a republican by the way. He's a libertarian.
Is there proff of this? Certificates? Exams? Essays? I don't believe it is possible the way the buffoon talks.
Why does the fact that someone ran a business get people so hot. Who cares for cryin' out loud? I don't. It's like entrepreneurs are GODS in this country. So what. They like money.
There are a lot of other contributors to our culture - all types of creatives, vocations, pursuits. Business is disproportionately worshiped.
No candidates, no debate. They don't know how to debate. I find it funny, seeing the egg on Faux News' face. ha ha, hee hee.
Too bad. I was looking forward to watching Romney dance around the tea party.
1. Bashing Obama does not seem like a politically good idea today!
2. The south has been wrecked by tornadoes and floods, and so the old go it alone, don't want big government, no welfare for slackers, pull yourself up by your own bootstraps storyline does not sell to people who have themselves lost everything.
forrest... good job .... all those commander in chief bashers and poor white welfare trash bashers ... will have to wait a few days to come up with new tactics as to why Obama waited so long to get bin laden and why those poor folk dont start there own business and get back to work
We need live comedy. Let's have the GOP baggers providing it. Palin as GOP leader will be a real... star. Same for all the Joe the Plummer followers... Hey, why not Joe the Plummer as a candidate? Joe 6-pack will miss him...
It truly appears that Romney is the only adult in the current slate of republican, may I say candidates. Perhaps Romney desires not to me associated with such people. The Donald may swear at him. As far as Michele not attending either, that is truly unfortunate. The nation needs to see the wisdom of the Tea Folk and there are none who can provide it better than Michele.
Broadcast live from the "Island for Misfit Toys" it's the republican primary debates.
GOP 2012 chances are dead. Yea gas prices are high, so what. The fact remains is A. we have now had 14 straight months of private sector job growth. 8 straight quarters of economic growth, the last 4 months we have seen job growth of 200,000 or more per month in the private sector.
Bin Laden is killed and not to mention the GOP field is now weaker than the Cleveland Cavaliers. Stick a fork in 2012, they are done!
In your dreams. Any GOP candidate would be a vast improvement over
incompetent Obama.
Lucky for America, you're on the wrong side of history Paul. Again. (What else is new?)
@Paul - The President, the Navy Seals and the Intelligence teams killed OBL. What can the GOP claim? Oh yeah....they are trying to kill Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, the middle class, the poor, ect. ect.
Paul: Please support your rhetoric....in what way would they be better, please be specific.
Yeah, gas prices are right about where they were when george bush was in his last months of his reign of terror. Seems to me he once said of Bin Laden, "you can run, but you can't hide" Seems he hid pretty well from the GOP president. Problem is they always have their eyes on their ideology and don't really look at the world around them. Romney won't debate because opposition to Obama is the only issue, and there is consensus among Republicans on that. What in the hell does the right stand for? Its been over 3 years of knowing that they are against Barrack Obama, nobody knows what in hell they are for.
So there's one less Barker at the carnival.....big deal....
produce all the social security names and numbers Obama used to get into school.
And your proof that he didn't attend Harvard as his diploma says and as his law school admission says is what exactly? Yeah, thought so.
I am not trying to prove that he did attend any of the schools. I just want to know how many social security numbers he has had issued to him and under what names and for what residencies. thanks for butting in.
He did not use GW's SS number, that would cause you to be placed in a special school district.
Did you know that Obama graduated from Harvard with honors.
This is an article about Romney not participating in a debate. What does Obamas SSN have to do with it?
Deflection is not a valid form of debate. Try again please.
dontgivemethepenguin: If you're going to make an absurd charge like that against a sitting President--at least have the decency to offer some proof. You swallow this conspiracy stuff hook, line and sinker and then expect everyone else too?
I don't believe it, but I want it looked into. Something just does not appear up and up with the Prez's background.
@sam-298381
But, if we ended the way our monetary system is structured, taking power away from The Federal Reserve, the difference between rich and poor could nearly disappear.
What's the federal reserve got to do with it? The rich and the poor were here long before the Federal Reserve was established.
The Federsal reserve was established to coordinate banks and banking across interste lines and allowing credit to flow. It has inthing toto witht he rich and poor. Everyone who operates a bank is already rich, all the poor can do is barrow the money and hore they can payit back..
typcial democrats barking again and again. Barak Hussien Obama will be defeated.
I guess the Mormons can stop running those "I'm a Mormon" ads. It looks like their boy is folding his tent and going home.
Might as well and the other GOP "hopefuls" may as well call it a day too. The GOP is in greater disarray than Al Queda. It will take more than a miracle for them to get back in the race now that Obama has bagged the big one.
skippy in 18 months bagging the big one as you put it will only be a small part of the election out come. The economy will be the most important issue.
And as you see as of this posting the bagging of the big one has not yet materialized in the market rising.
Jon,
How clever of you to use the diminutive of my name. Gosh, I've just never seen that before.
Well, personally Jon, I'm not thinking about the market or any of the nay-sayers and game-players today. I thinking about how our Commander-in-Chief was able accomplish in a little over two years what GBII couldn't accomplish in 7 years.
Tomorrow, while you fret about the market, I'll still be thinking about how badly disorganized the GOP is and how it looks like NOBODY with an "R" by his/her name has the guts to run against our President. And by Friday we'll see the new poll numbers and will have dissected them and we'll know exactly how happy the country is with our fine President.
In case you havn't noticed, the economy is on the mend. Manufacturers are reporting increased sales and the unemployment rate continues its painfully slow, but steady, drop. Disaster has been averted by the President's quick action upon taking office. In 18 months things are going to look even better.
I'm pretty confident he'll be re-elected.
So, like I said, looks like the Mormons can stop violating the separation of Church and State and save their money. As can the rest of the sadly weak-kneed GOP field. The President looks even more like a slam dunk than he did before.
Obama/Biden 2012 Because Barry Bagged Bin Laden
skip funny thing about poll numbers, they can go down as quickly as they go up, henceforth the reference to the 18 month lag between this success and the possible failure of the economic situation we are facing. So as the old saying goes don't count your chicken before they hatch.
As some have reported this information that allowed the military to finally go in and take out bin laden was garnered out of Gitmo 4 years ago. It took that long for this to be set up and be able to take place.
If Gitmo had been closed down like president obama would have liked to have happened do you believe this kind of information could have been gotten with the Al Queda terrorists sitting in a jail in Manhattan. Don't think so skippy!
Constitution Amendment 1: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Please point out where it is state that there is to be a seperation between the church and state...
The "establshment of religion" clause is exactly that--the government shall make no law that holds one religion above any other, or establishes a government backed religion. Which of the dozens and dozens of US Supreme court cases upholding that has you confused?
Don't put anystock in poll numbers. after the Gulf War Bush the father had 90% and he still lost to bill clinton. The two real questions to ask are:
Are you better off to day thay you were 4 years ago?
Do you think the country is moving in the right direction or on the wrong track?
And-Do you think your life will improve or go down hill in the coming years?
That's what the election is going to be about...
Sarah Palin's latest tweet... Don't reload, RETREAT!
Romney to skip debate; who cares!
Lame. He sucks.
Romney was smart to skip the debate. No one in SC is going to vote for him in a primary anyway. The longer he waits the better off he'll be, because as soon as he has to open his mouth his foot will surely find it's way into the opening.
Knock me over with a feather.
I can imagine that there is a great deal of "reassessing" going on in GzeroP land today.