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Secretary of State Hillary Clinton just came to the Treaty Room to praise the courageous men and women who have toiled for years to track down Osama bin Laden, to remember the victims of bin Laden's and Al Qaeda's violence, and to warn that the fight against al Qaeda does not end with this death.
"Even as we mark this milestone, we should not forget that the battle to stop Al Qaeda and its syndicate of terror will not end with the death of bin Laden," Clinton said.
Clinton offered an ominous warning to those members of al Qaeda still hiding out, but also offered them an olive branch. "You cannot wait us out; you cannot defeat us," she said, but added, "but you can make the choice to abandon Al Qaeda and participate in a peaceful political process."
Despite the fact the U.S. did not tell the Pakistanis about this operation until it was complete, Clinton said that the close cooperation with Pakistan has put "unprecedented pressure" on al Qaeda and its leadership, and that "continued cooperation will be just as important in the days ahead."
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I am so happy the days of Cowboy diplomacy are behind us!
And I am so PROUD of our President and the outstanding Men & Women to fight for our country & freedoms!
I'll take:
Over SHOOT first and ask questions later...
Feisty, I'm sensing a beef here. I think the President should get the Nobel Prize for medicine for eliminating one serious disease!
I too celebrate with our President!!!
Bin Laden is little more than shark crap now.
How right you are Feisty and Auntie.....
One serious disease now buried/dumped at sea!
....for UBLs followers, no place to make pilgramages or lay flowers!
I just read that Bush 43 and Dick Cheney both congratulated our President; calling the death of Bin Laden an outstanding achievement. However, some GOP/Tpers find this a hard pill to swallow. Come-on! There is a lot of credit to be passed around. It is great to be an American.
Does anyone else see the irony in the first lead that resulted in the killing of bin Laden came from one of GWB's "detainees"?? Someone who would never have been available for questioning if the lefty liberals had been in charge.
Being Feisty is no substitute for being smart...You obviously have no clue about history. How about you check out Teddy's time as Assistant Secretary of the Navy leading up to the Spanish American War. Here's a hint, It has a lot to do with how the US took possession of the Philippines from Spain!
When you educate yourself, come back and we can talk about "cowboy diplomacy".
I noticed it Joe...How did they find out the name of the courier in 2007? By what method.
It's okay though. All this ought to make everyone forget that Obama is keeping Guantanamo open and holding military tribunals there...sort of following in W's shoes one might say...
Feisty;
Our brave men and women who sacrifice so much to keep us safe and free deserve our respect and thanks. This is a debt we cannot pay.
Our President has demonstrated you can run but you cannot hide. We will get you sooner or later. There are a few in Libya and other hot spots that are not sleeping so soundly now. They will jump at every little noise wondering if it is there turn to go swim with the fishes.
Mr. President I thank you my family and my LtJG and I am glad and proud that you are our "Commander in Chief".
And to our service members past and present I salute you and you have my gratitude and respect. I pray that you all come home soon.
"Someone who would never have been available for questioning if the lefty liberals had been in charge."
Really? You know this guy, and know whether he would have been unavailable? Do you work for the CIA? If you do, you need to keep this stuff on the down-low.
refined diplomacy vs cowboy diplomacy. the difference is clear.
neo cons, who are ya......
The Nobel committee saw something in our leader most of us even did not acknowledge until late yesterday. Can't wait for someone on the right to try to spin this away from our President. Great team work requires great leadership at the top. Obama 2012.
Pius...it's nice to see that a special ops mission that ends up with a guy shot in the head is considered by you to be "refined diplomacy"...
...welcome to the right...
AnaBanana...seriously?
Nobel Peace Prize.....killing a human....WTF does the Nobel Committee have to do with a special ops hit squad?
Feisty, somehow your post came out incomplete when I first saw it. It said only "cowboy diplomacy" and I took this as criticism of the President's actions. No beef here!
This has more to do with the JSOC team that went into the compound and less to do about ANY politician! The only Other person here besides me with any military experience that I can tell is navy! Having served under 4 CIC's , Including my participation in the failed rescue attempt ordered by Jimmy Carter and targeting of a dictatorial home in north africa, I find it hard to give anyone but the JSOC command and its units credit for this.
Jolly...
Former S2 OIC here...currently in KC, Af...Working at brigade level at Camp Nathan Smith
No Problemo! Never took it as such! ;o)
I am a member of the GOP and TP and I give my congratulations to President Obama for giving the order to go in after him as well as congratulate the men and women of our military and intelligence agencies on a successful mission. Let's all leave the political b.s. on the sidelines for at least one day and celebrate, shall we?
@Ron Indiana- ''facepalm"
jollyoldsoul1
This has more to do with the JSOC team that went into the compound and less to do about ANY politician!
Unless, of course, it was Jimmy Carter, and the sandstorm got into the engines of the hellicopters.......
The team executed the mission. The administration and the politicians monitored and approved the mission. The Commander in Chief is called that for a reason.
The outcome shows the power of our country's resolve. Thank you all who were involved.
Way to go and thanks to our great USA military and our President Obama.
What a great choice Pres. Obama made when he put Hillary in as Sec. of State. What a great team, both smart and tough.
Feisty Redhead:
Just remember that it was the Cowboy diplomacy that helped us get the Intel that we needed to start this process.
 Wow mr. president, you sure know how to get the job done. I am proud of you and our service people for a job well done. No matter how the repubs try to give bush credit, history books will show that it was president Obama that got Osama.
Just like the political leaders of both parties have said, Obama, Bush, the military and the intelligence services all deserve credit.
I'm tired of people on these boards trying to turn this into a political issue (that goes for people on the left and the right).
People need to get past party-line thinking and do what's best for the country.
Hello Ron 186, good to see you again.
I agree with you this should be a nonpartisan issue. I will give some credit to Bush for starting the hunt. As I said in an earlier post I give credit to the intellegence services and the special op teams as well. However nam481 is right. History will look at Obama for getting this accomplishment done. Fair or not too often one event or one man is given all the credit for events. For example for too long partisans have been saying that Ronald Reagan and his Berlin wall speech was the sole main reason for the downfall of Communism neglecting in large part the Polish Solidarity movement.
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From an op ed by none other then Newt Gingrich
John Paul II and the end of the cold war.
...in June 1989, Solidarity candidates won overwhelming victories in the first semi-free elections in Soviet-occupied Eastern Europe in 40 years and formed the first non-communist-led government in the Eastern bloc. Five months later, the Berlin Wall fell, and, in December 1991, the Soviet Union disappeared.
But what was the revolution in the Polish hearts that led them so decisively to embrace Solidarity and endure nine years of hardship, including martial law and murder, to see this peaceful revolution through to fruition?
We learned about the significance of John Paul II’s 1979 pilgrimage during a trip to Europe in 2008, when we were conducting interviews for our documentary Ronald Reagan: Rendezvous With Destiny. We traveled to Gdansk, Poland, to interview President Lech Walesa, and then to Prague to visit with President Vaclav Havel.
Both presidents described the Pope’s role as critical and agreed that his 1979 pilgrimage to Poland was a decisive turning point in undermining communism.
Am I the only one who noticed that all night fox had Osamas name spelled Usama?
They can't even spell, poor excuse for a station.
Yeah nam;
spelling would seem to be one of the journalism basics, but I guess not at Fox.
It's a thinly veiled attempt at a 'code' word to their bagger & birther base.
Actually, "Usama" is the spelling used on the FBI's 10 Most Wanted list.
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten
nam:
FOX is just a collection of poor excuses for human beings, period.
The Arab nations do not use the same spelling we do, which means that "Osama" is as much a convention of ours as "al Qaida" or "Mao Zedong". Remember "Mao Tse Tung", or "Peking"? "Deceased" will suffice.
We had facial recognition plus bin Laden’s youngest wife ID him.
Now we have a confirmed DNA match.
Just curious WHY the ONLY network that spelled if that way is the one who panders to baggers & birthers... that's all...
and we do not have a live person to worry about where he will be held, or if his trial will be held in Guantanamo or somewhere in the US states, or if his rights are being attended to by the US. Yep. Shot in head... A fitting ending to a very bad person. Simplifies everything! Maybe shoud considered for new Rules fo Engagement.
@ Feisty
No you're not. People who are curious get knowledge by asking questions. You saw an opportunity to cast insults. You're being petty, childish and illustrating that, for all your BS, that you are incapable of intellectual honesty.
nonkjo... the Nasty Redhead is just operating under her standard MO.
She has been doing it here for a VERY long time.
Osama or Usama whats the diff? HE IS DEAD!! OOORAH!
By the way here are a FEW of the ways to spell Qaddafi,Qadhafi,Khaddafi,Gadhafi,or Gaddafi take your pick.
Yes, I'm well aware.
they should have shot him in the leg to disable him and waterboarded more info from him, then killed him and put his body out for his followers to pay tribute, then drop a bomb on all of them.
Translate Arabic folks........the name has several variations. Feisty, research before showing it again.....
Hey Feisty, isn't this a violation of your #5 in you code of ethics?
You should see your proctologist.
Quick quiz for the righties:
Who said the quote above, and whom was he referencing?
*waves hand*
I KNOW - I KNOW being a leftie do I count? lol
Why wasn't that 'W'?
quick quick, what is schadenfreude!
Why yes,.... yes,....a cupie doll for that fetching Redhead in the front there......
It was Dubya,....and he was talking about Osama bin Laden.
At least he was telling the truth for once.
schadenfreude = delight in the discomfort of others
One innocent example - making five spades, doubled and redoubled against step-mother. We can all think of nastier examples.
nonkjo
Gloating
Don't be lame. There are several variations of the spelling. It's amazing how when people have an opportunity to get a cheap shot in on the internet, they somehow forget that Google even exists.
If you are an American in jeopardy abroad you want this President to be in office when it happens.This make two for the U.S. Navy Seals. They also popped a cap on a Somali pirate who was holding Americans hostage.
Man knows how to get things done,...unlike republicans who know how to,.....errrrr,....what is it that repubs do anyway Feisty?
TALK about jobs, Greg. That's what they do. Or abotion- I can never remember....
Greg:
Those are only the ones they let us know about. There are others.
Just in at 10:55 am (EST), the DNA confirms it was Bin Laden, also his wife ID the body as well. Well Fish Bait is indeed dead. But the truth and proof will not stop the rhetoric from the right.
You are right DBO,.....why I do seem to remember them "talking" about jobs. I just don't seem to recall them making any jobs for anyone but a bunch of republican functionaries and the body bag manufacturers.
On the subject of that,....Remember those 4 million auto jobs that Obama saved? Well,...one of them was mine. I work for Chrysler,...and the good news out of Auburn Hills today is that Chrysler is posting a profit again.
To all of America I say,...."Thank You".
"THIS IS THE MOTOR CITY,....AND THIS IS WHAT WE DO."
Must agree!
True Navy.
Those guys are involved in clandestine operations, and I would be willing to bet that if all of us knew about the crap that went on while we slept,.....that we never WOULD sleep.
It's so nice to see a bunch of people trying to pass themselves off as adults politicizing the issue (thus sinking to the level of their opponents!) less than 24 hours after the fact~
God Bless America.
Good job
Enhanced interrogations at Gitmo led directly to the death of Bin Laden. Though it took a few years of painstaking intelligence work.
Thank you, President Bush for making the necessary difficult decisions.
Thank you President Obama, for your leadership also.
and thank the originator of "enhanced interrogation",.....William Jefferson Clinton.
And BTW Booby,... the interrogation thing was just a Fox talking point until you actually decide to do something relevant,.....like provide a salient, reliable link.
Sorry.
Nice try,....we have some lovely parting gifts......
Bob:
Good try, but the prisoner at Gitmo have been locked up for years. They had no idea where Bin Laden was located...yesterday. Ground informants, (spys) some placed there 5 years ago under President Bush provided the necessary information needed to kill Bin Laden. The Navy Seal mission was to Kill Bin Laden, not to capture him.
So...forget your enhanced interrogrations as it is better known as torture. That is something most American abhor.
I want to believe you are smarter than your last post!
Excellent point as usual, Ron!!!
Looks like the repubs find themselves chronologically challenged yet again!!!
Ok Greggy...how exactly do you think they came by intel between 9/11 and 2007 when the found out the couriers name? What? Did they give him tickles til he gave it up?
Sometimes "salient" links aren't needed by people who have brains.
Our intel analysts deduced where Obama was by looking at the type of structure, the lack of internet, the burning of trash, and some dynamite imagery....They didn't have a "salient, reliable link" and look what they accomplished.
Sometimes it just takes a little bit of brains...think about it. Oh wait, that might be a problem.
Ron, please tell me you're better than that...please...
Gitmo prisoners didn't need to know where Osama was...But if one of them knew the name of his "trusted courier"....well...I'll let you fumble about trying to connect the dots. There's no sense in doing the light lifting for you.
But I thought that was the whole point of this "intel" stuff Nonkjo.
You seem to lack a basic understanding here.
Hey, how many of you military rock stars have actually been in combat? And no Greg living in Livonia doesnt qualify you for a yes!
No it don't "jolly".
How many times have you been in combat,...and where?
It don't take no cojones to use internet search engines either.
Ok Greg, lets do it Barney style so you can keep up:
1. Pretend you are a prisoner
2. Pretend you are being waterboarded
3. Pretend you tell someone that you don't know where Osama is
4. Pretend you know the name of his courier though so you the tell intel guy because you're afraid of drowning.
Now, the Intel guy takes that name you just gave him.
So intel guy plugs it into what we in the intel field call a "link diagram". This is something we use (like Palintir) in order to visualize a terrorist network and make targeting decisions that will either severely disrupt the network (because sometimes it's important to us to see the effects of our actions on our enemy) or we can use link diagram analysis to do what's called "network defeat" in COIN doctrine.
A link diagram includes people, places, and indicators which suggest enemy activity. these indicators include money transfers, intercepted SIGINT, HUMINT like witnesses and informants...stuff like that).
You may build a fine car Greggy, but I was an S2 OIC. I trained and set up Company Intelligence Support Teams (aka CoIST teams) whose job it was to gather ground level intelligence and send it up for analysis.
YOU sir, seem to have a gap in understanding of what intelligence analysis entails.
Condescend elsewhere...nothing but men here.
Jolly:
I was a route clearance platoon leader in Diyala Iraq. You can see the kind of stuff we did on Youtube. Just search for 87th Engineer. It is a sapper company and we go out and find IEDs. The video was made by my platoon.
Afterwards, I was the battalion S2 and security manager. I am also an Anti-Terrorism officer. I conduct training and force protection planning. I'm currently in Afgh.
Nonkjo,...
I refer you to the post by Ron in Indiana. Common sense. The other approach.
Waterboarding don't work. Ask Senator John McCain.
@Greg,
So what you are essentially indicating by parroting another users post is that you are incapable of generating thoughts of your own?
John McCain divulged military information while under torture which is a violation of the Code of Conduct. McCain himself admitted that it was a huge regret. It sounds to me like torture does work! The North Vietnamese sure were quick to publish the stuff! Again, I find it amazing that people pretend things like Google and Wiki don't exist when they are afraid of the facts. You would have been better off not responding at all Greg!
Also, if you actually stretch you legs on that little internet thingie you are reading from, you will find that US Forces tried to get him to surrender...he chose not to. They killed him. This was a "kill or capture" mission. We do them all the time in Afghanistan.
Wrong: The report said capture was not the objective. Read it again nonkjo.
How's that for a thought of my own? Bwahahaha!
Good try Ron, but the issue isn't whether detainees knew where bin Laden was today, the issue is information detainees provided along the way that helped build the web that finally got him. In particular, bin Laden's relationship with a particular courier seems to have been a key pice of information. At least that's the way the NYT sees it:
"the real breakthrough came when they finally figured out the name and location of Bin Laden's most trusted courier, whom the Qaeda chief appeared to rely on to maintain contacts with the outside world.
Detainees at the prison at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, had given the courier's pseudonym to American interrogators and said that the man was a protégé ofKhalid Shaikh Mohammed, the confessed mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks…."
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/02/world/asia/02reconstruct-capture-osama-bin-laden.html
And the Washington Post :
"U.S. analysts and operatives spent years figuring out the courier's identity, senior administration officials said, concluding that he was a former protege of Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the self-declared mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks who is being held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The courier "had our constant attention," one official said.
Detainees "identified this man as one of the few al-Qaeda couriers trusted by bin Laden, [and] indicated he might be living with or protecting bin Laden,"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/osama-bin-laden-killed-in-us-raid-buried-at-sea/2011/05/02/AFx0yAZF_story_3.html
Heck, even MSNBC gets it:
""From the time that we first recognized bin Laden as a threat, the U.S. gathered information on people in bin Laden's circle, including his personal couriers," a senior official in the Obama administration said in a background briefing from the White House.
After the terror attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, "detainees gave us information on couriers. One courier in particular had our constant attention. Detainees gave us his nom de guerre, his pseudonym, and also identified this man as one of the few couriers trusted by bin Laden."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42853221/ns/world_news-death_of_bin_laden/
So this your bad, Ron. And as we celebrate finally getting Bad Guy #1, lets acknowledge how we got some of the information to help us do it.
Bill--none of the sources you cite seem to say that the detainees were tortured to get the information---maybe they were tricked, maybe they were given drugs---we don't know.
Greg, Greg, Greg,
www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20110502/world/bin-laden-was-asked-to-surrender-before-being-shot.363158
Perhaps you should venture elsewhere for information, not just MSNBC.
@Steeler,
I don't think Bill is categorically saying the information came solely from "enhanced interrogation" as much as he is talking about the intelligence apparatus for gathering than analyzing the information.
For some reason, there are some people here who seem to think that intelligence analysis means following a map with a big red X on it. They cannot seem to grasp the concept that a single important "clue" could have come out of the "interrogation", not some guy in Gitmo telling them definitively where bin Laden was.
Doesn't matter... the point is that THEY DID GIVE THE INFORMATION!
Unfortunately, the left is so biased that they are incapable of acknowledging even for a micro-second, that the right did something correct.
GO USA!
We now need to level Pakistan for lying to us ...for 10years He lived within 6 minutes of 3 major military installations ! And they " Pakistan " continued to take billions form us monthly !
I guess the 3AM call came early.
Shumer says this was "A thunderous success for America" well put.
Can you just imagine, how much Obama was enjoying himself, while zinging 'The Donald" from up on stage, knowing he had this torpedo in his back pocket all along?
Priceless!
He would make a damn fine poker player.
Sorry to hear you have a "problem" Nonkjo,....but that was obvious from your post.
You make me smile Greg. The same way I smile when I see by 1 year old do something silly?
Do you actually intend to address my points? Your quips require little thought except to illustrate that your main goal is to run away when you don't have an answer.
I think your 1-year old's diaper is full of some of your posts. See. You make me smile too. :o)
Well spoken. Like a man who mentally surrendered about 7 or 8 posts ago. No shame in giving up Greg. It's okay to be intimidated.
Do you think your hiding down here or silly comments will make me forget about your stream of failures above?
Nonkjo Im a bit older than you, I served from 1969 to 1979. Greg can figure out what happened during that period. I was attached to a mobile weapons detachment. We built and deployed and maintained weapons systems for foward deployed troops. We were usually deployed in the area of engagement and almost always in harms way. I also spent quite a bit of time In Iran training Iranian forces (the Shah's) how to use equipment we sold them and well as a few years in Saudi targeting and planting probes.
Read em' again.
I responded. Don't pat yourself on the back too much with your self-congratulation. BTW: Are you a female?
I am so proud right now I cannot put it into words! Thank you thank you thank you for a job well done by our men and women of the military for all their sacrifices, hard work, and dedication! To all the special op teams, Navy Seals and CIA and everyone involved in bringing Bin Laden to justice....thank you so much for your tremendous efforts and successes! To our President Obama, I wish to thank you from the bottom of my heart for all your resolve and steadfastness and your quiet strength! What a great leader! From this point on, your opponents will never know what you have in your back pocket again!
Jolly,
I was in the Corps starting in 1992 under Clinton. Did 3 WESTPAC deployments, was a door gunner in Somalia with HMM-166 when we pulled the last of the UNSCOM personnel out of Mogadishu. Been to pretty much all of the Middle East countries except Syria, Yemen and Iran. I got out in 2000 to finish my degree and by the time I got it I was too old to get my age waived for Quantico so I went to Ft. Benning and Army OCS. I'm with the Army Corps of Engineers and was a engineer platoon leader in Iraq where I was everywhere from Basra to Baghdad, Balad and FOB Warhorse. My platoon replaced an entire company at FOB Normandy and I was TF Engineer for a cavalry unit patrolling along the Iranian Border (the Iranian border guards were within 100 meters of us.). I was the battalion intel officer and as I mentioned before, I've been done anti-terrorism/force protection/COIN training. I've also trained in Zarqa, Jordan at the Jordaini special forces compound in "peace operations" which, strangely is what they call their counter insurgency and negotiation training.
Congratulations President Obama from a knuckle dragging mouth breathing right winger! Great job! There are a lot of things about Obama that I don't agree with, but I believe in giving credit where credit is due. My President has made me proud today!
I could have predicted that there would be liberals on this site, pointing out that Bush failed to get bin Laden. Didn't President Clinton also try for years to get bin Laden? He failed just as Bush failed. If Clinton had found and killed bin Laden, maybe the 09/11 attacks never happen.
Mostly Mike. Clinton tried twice. He wanted to try a third time, but Newt Gingrich stopped him saying, "No,...you aren't going to get another crack at this bin Laden character. You just want to divert attention away from the Monica Lewinsky incident.",....or something very much like that.
Remember now?
BTW Mike;
You seem a magnanimous individual.
Ahh yes the Republicans are to blame! Isn't that always the way? Clinton fails to get bin Laden, so it is the fault of those meany Republicans in Congress. Bush fails to get bin Laden, so it is the fault of the Democratic Cong . . .
Oh wait, Bush is a Republican. We'll blame him!
Gotta love partisanship!
Once again, congratulations to President Obama for getting the job done.
Mike, I have only one thing to say... THANKS. last night as i heard the news i thought to myself, this event might be just what this country needs, something to get us past the bull @!$%# political lines. Maybe people would stop seeing lefties and right wingers or libs and Conservatives and start seeing Americans. Then i get on this website... it seems people cant put their petty bull @!$%# (that most of them really dont know anything about) behind them and celebrate as a country. I say thanks because you are the first person have read who despite their political alliance have realized that no matter what party you support the death of osama bin laden was a good thing that has been in the works for 20 years.
Hey Greg you can't call me that! Don't you ever call me magnanimous again!
Oh wait sorry that was a compliment!
I don't post here very often, but I am amused by hyper partisans on both sides. We are probably a long way from knowing the full story of what happened Sunday night, but I would be willing to bet that we will be giving some credit to former President Bush when the full story is known. Maybe Clinton too, depending on how far back the effort went.
I'm just glad that the scumbag bin Laden is a shark snack now!
With ya' there Mike. We find ourselves in full agreement!! No better use for a terrorist that I can think of.
Now we can say with confidence that "Osama bin Laden is our "CHUM".
Pun fully intended.
Greg
Read and WEEP.
A few senators, however, noted that the timing of the attack raised the question of whether Clinton had ordered it to deflect attention from his personal affairs. Others suggested the scandal may be preventing the president from paying attention to critical international problems.
But most lawmakers from both parties were quick to rally behind Clinton in a deluge of public statements and appearances yesterday, a marked contrast to the relatively sparse and chilly reception that greeted his Monday statement on the Lewinsky matter.
"I think the president did exactly the right thing," House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) said of the bombing attacks. "By doing this we're sending the signal there are no sanctuaries for terrorists."
Gingrich said he was told "very precise details" of the attack before it occurred, and praised Clinton's aides for being "sensitive to making sure we were not blindsided in this." Other congressional leaders, several of whom were on vacation or difficult to locate, said the White House had made an effort to notify them before the attacks.
Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.) called the attacks "appropriate and just," and House Majority Leader Richard K. Armey (R-Tex.) said "the American people stand united in the face of terrorism."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/react082198.htm
I stand (sit) corrected slodon.
Thanks.
Gee,.....I hope the sharks don't choke on him.
They'll get a taste of that POS and spit him right back out! 'o)
You really think they dumped the single most wanted man in history(possibly) in the ocean! Really! You think they took this out of the Jimmy Hoffa play book?
Maybe not Jolly old. They'll probably keep him on ice with those corpses they got out in Roswell, N.M.
If they had kept bin Laden alive, every Islamist militant in the world would have been grabbing hostages to trade. This way, there's not even a corpse to ransom off. Good thinking. Congrats to all involved.
Hilary just can't help speaking out of both sides of her mouth
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Congratulations to President Obama, our military and covert operatives everywhere
Wow...... The young are now eating the old!
A truly momentous occasion. Glad it happened in my lifetime. God Bless America!
Is there anything that this President can do that the Republican will finally say well done Mr. President. Their hypocricy and arrogance is amazing. We knew where he was since last August, but before we acted recklessly and go in guns blazing and have unwarranted loss of life, we kep tracking him to make sure and act when the time was right. This is the action from a President who thinks before he acts. When the job was done, what did he do. He didn't take credit. Instead he thanked the men and women of the Armed forces fo a job well done. He also acknowledged that the war against terror goes on and we will be vigilant and continue to hunt down these turds. But already you have the Republicans and the Tea Baggers saying this is a hoax, it's a lie. Why, because it was an action taken by a Black President. Republicans are racist, plain and simple. God help you seniors, if the Ryan budget is passed. Let's see how much health care you can buy with your $6,000. viucher. You will be the same ones screaming to bring back the so called Obama care that you didn't want. I saw a few clips of seniors blasting their Republican congressman, once they had a chance to read the details of what the Ryan budget will do to Medicade and Medicare. The lies you tell in the dark eventually comes out into the light.
Wulfgang I can't speak for all Republicans, but I give full credit to President Obama for an outstanding job.
Yes, some right wingers are making idiotic comments, implying that this was a hoax and that we did not really get bin Laden. Oh well. Conspiracy theorist nut jobs are a fact of life, and they are common on both political extremes. Let me ask you this. What do you think of the left wingers who insist to this day that bin Laden was not involved in 09/11? They insist that 09/11 was a Bush/Cheney production. Do you have any comment on that?
Wulfgang,
Yup, Mike is a non-Democrat, and he is totally down with congratulating Obama!
It also seems he couldn't be happier that OBL is shark s**t.
Gotta' hand it to the man.
Mike---Wulfgang doesn't need me to speak for him but I think his point is not about the people on the fringe---you are right, both parties have them. But how about the people running for President in the Republican party. Only Romney and Pawlenty could bring themselves to congratulate the President.
The republicans and pundits can spin it six ways from Sunday, but the American people know this was Obama's operation and Obama's success.
If only Bill had got him when he had the chance, instead of being worried about more bad press after the Monica "blowup"
Always fun to see how the ignorant spin things. Now, go read an edifying book, and quit watching Fox "News".
you are right... maybe if the republican congress hadn't of crippled a rather successful president over a little blow job 9-11 would never have happened... that being said today is not about your mindless party banter (directed to both sides of the aisle) but a day where we can celebrate justice being delivered to a murderous mad man
lmao....... Mr. Obama gets credit for saying "yes" to the request for a combat action on the soil of a sovereign nation. Thats it! The rest of the credit goes to the planners, the weapons teams and the JSOC group that actually performed so perfectly. This was a military operation not a presidential decree!
Right. You mean the team Obama assembled don't you jolly soul?
It was both jollyoldsoul1. If Obama was the Muslim sympathizer or America hater he has been accused of being by some loons on the right, he could have refused to grant permission to carry out the operation.
Everyone involved with this operation did a great job. President Obama is to far left for my tastes, but he gave the green light and that POS bin Laden is shark food now. President Obama deserves congratulations from every America citizen for a job well done.
Ummmmmm Greg, He did not assemble this team. This is actually not a team if you get my drift. They were assembled after the failed Jimmy Carter hostage rescue. Well I mean they were NOT assembled!
Actually the CIA and military wanted to bomb.President Obama said wait let's send in special forces according to FOX News . He's also alleged to have given a secret shoot to kill order [of course it was leaked ] which they're now [ FOX again] trying to deny. I say we nickname the President "Dirty Barry".LoL.Thanks to the service people serving all over the world.Note..... That operation was illegal and the President gets high marks for saying F* it.So much for Democrats are weak on national security.Everyone from both sides is learning on the fly.Neither side has dealt with an enemy such as this.Rejoice.GOD bless the USA.!!
During a February 2002 speech, Clinton explained that he turned down an offer from Sudan for bin Laden's extradition to the U.S., saying, "At the time, 1996, he had committed no crime against America, so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him."
archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/9/10/181819.shtml
Clinton tried to get Osama? Pleeezzzze
Evidence suggests the Clinton administration did not take advantage of offers to get bin Laden -- and that the Monica Lewinsky scandal was exploding during this time period.
At least two offers from the government of Sudan to arrest Osama bin Laden and turn him over to the U.S. were rebuffed by the Clinton administration in February and March of 1996, a period of time when the former president's attention was distracted by his intensifying relationship with White House intern Monica Lewinsky.
One of the offers took place during a secret meeting in Washington, the same day Clinton was meeting with Lewinsky in the White House just miles away.
"If you want bin Laden, we will give you bin Laden," Foreign Minister Taha told Ambassador Carney.
Still, with the extraordinarily fortuitous offer on the table, back in Washington President Clinton had other things on his mind.
A timeline of events chronicled in the Starr Report shows that during the period of late January through March 1996, Mr. Clinton's relationship with Monica Lewinsky was then at its most intense.
Rick, Texas
Clinton also launched an attack on bin Laden's desert compound and 3 other sites using cruise missile launched from two U.S. Naval assets in the Red Sea and the Indian Ocean.
Clinton apparently missed him by mere hours at the time.
Personally, I think Clinton should have ignored Gingrich and greased the chump anyway. I didn't think a President needed Congressional approval to perform that type of operation.
It is nothing but a 2012 ploy!! until I see his head and President George W. Bush says it is true..I don't believe it!!
Why is it that only here, on this blog, I can't simply read the the US of America killed the most wanted terrorist in the world. Why is it that everyone is jockeying for position and credit. It's real simple, the President gave a go order on Friday to kill Bin Laden. A seal team or JSOC team went 40 miles deep into Pakistan and executed an heroic and flawless mission. If this had gone wrong...Obama gets all the blame. Since it went off correctly, he derserves the credit for giving the go on the mission. He ordered the execution of Bin Laden, in another coutry without notifying that country we were taking action. It was tremendous risk as there was no firm confirmation he was at that location. Our military and intelligent services deserve all the crediit you can pour on them as does our Presdident who had the courage to give the go order knowing the risks. Even on a day when we should be celebrating this victory over terrorism we can't even come together and say thank you.
Ira, some people have to bicker over evrything that happens, and make everything into a political football. The simple fact is that this even was a piece of art, and like most art, a long time in being created. Pres. Obama gets the kudos for the 'go' order, and a lot of unnnamed individuals need to get at least classified medals.
Ira - I know. I was just a kid when the Iran hostage rescue mission failed. Carter received and took all of the blame.
Obama consistently said if provided with actionable intel he would order to capture or kill Bin Laden.
I'm glad that the operation was a success not because of any potential political implications or fall out for the president. I'm glad it was successful because it was a priority for the US laid down by both Bush and Obama.
Much like when Sadaam was caught under Bush's watch in Iraq I say let us extricate ourselves as quickly as possible of this awful mess of a war in Afgan.
To Mike in Il, those left wingers who accused Bush. They should have also not make those accusations without any proof. Did they actually think that a President woud kill over 3,000 of his fellow Americans so that he can start a war. How ignorant is that.People tend to open their mouth before thinking what comes out of it. Case in Point is Donald Trump. So I do not condne them either. I did not vote for Bush, but he was the President of the United and as such should be treated with respect. However you may not agree, the degree of hate this president has been shown, my God. This man graduated Magna Cum Laude from Harvard, and we have someone like Trump questioning his intigellence, are you kidding me. Did anyone ever shout out "you lie" when Bush ever gave any of his state of the union address. Romney passed the same Health Care on Ma, yet I don't hear the Republicans calling it Romney care. Yet because President Obama signed this healt care bill which assures that we all are given access to affordable health care, it's called " Obama Care" .. do you see the hypocrisy here.
Our grangchildren will know in......let's say in about 50 years then , will the truth be told. Isay that because just this pass wk-end I saw a program on the bombing of Pearl Harbor.The program showed that there were messages intercepted by us from Japan . The President ignored the warning. The narrarator said the President ignored the message so that what we know as the attack on Pearl Habor..... could happen so that we could go to war with Germany and Japan... I'm just saying.....We don't know what's really on one heart... man kind can do some wicked thing's to man kind. I do believe like my Aunt told me year's ago ,"you can't believe everything you here.....and only half of what you see"
We noticed the timing of the UK Royal wedding and the Osama bin Laden kill mission. Did the US advice the UK Royal Family that a short delay for the honeymoon would be wise?