First thoughts: On this side of the pond

Plenty of political activity on this side of the pond: Obama inspects tornado damage in Alabama at 11:10 am ET… He then watches the final launch of Space Shuttle Endeavor (and Gabby Giffords will be there, too)… And he delivers a commencement address at Miami-Dade College (to numerous potential voters in the swing state)… Pawlenty, Santorum, Romney, Cain, and Bachmann speak at NH cattle call… Filling the GOP establishment void… NH Dem Party files FEC complaint at Team Romney… Burton-Sweeney groups are unveiled… And League of Women Voters airs TV ads aimed at Scott Brown and Claire McCaskill.

From NBC’s Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, Domenico Montanaro, and Ali Weinberg
*** On this side of the pond: While most of today’s focus is on the Royal Wedding in London -- as well as the devastation in the South, especially Alabama -- the day is also full of events with political meaning. In New Hampshire, GOP presidential candidates are gathering at yet another cattle call. In Florida, President Obama is attending the final launch of the Space Shuttle Endeavor (Rep. Gabby Giffords will be there, too). And later in the Sunshine State, the president will deliver a commencement address at a school chock-full of potential young voters.

*** Hard Times: But before heading to Florida, Obama visits Tuscaloosa, AL to inspect the tornado damage there. At 11:10 am ET, he views the damage and meets with Gov. Robert Bentley (R). As of late last night, the death toll from the tornadoes stands at 298, including 210 in Alabama. The New York Times: “Thousands have been injured, and untold more have been left homeless, hauling their belongings in garbage bags or rooting through disgorged piles of wood and siding to find anything salvageable.” As we mentioned yesterday, these kinds of visits -- right after a disaster -- are tricky for presidents. On the one hand, there's the desire to visibly respond to tragedy and destruction. On the other hand, there's the desire of a president -- and his entourage -- not to get in the way of the clean-up. To put this disaster into a bit of perspective: More lives have been lost this week due to this tornado outbreak than any hurricanes that have hit the U.S. since Katrina.

*** Cape Canaveral Calling: Then, at 2:10 pm ET, the president and the first family arrive in Cape Canaveral, FL to watch the final launch of Endeavor. Per Politico, part of the reason for Obama’s appearance at the launch: “to ease the political damage of job losses in the space industry and reaffirm his commitment to space exploration, which looms large in a high-unemployment battleground state that looks to the skies for its future, self-image and economic well-being.” Do NOT underestimate the political impact of the perception of the loss of jobs in this crucial SWING portion of this crucial SWING state. Of course, the biggest short-term political story in Cape Canaveral will be getting a glimpse of Arizona Congresswoman Gabby Giffords (D), who also will be in attendance at the launch. How she looks will fairly or unfairly impact the chatter about the Arizona Senate race.

*** The President’s Speech: And finally for Obama, it’s on to Miami for a commencement address at 6:55 pm ET. After delivering past commencement addresses at the University of Michigan, Notre Dame, and the service academies, some may have raised their eyebrows at today’s venue: Miami-Dade College. Yet consider these numbers from the school: 174,000 students are enrolled in the school, making it the largest institution of higher education in the country; 14,000 will graduate there this spring (that's compared to the 7,500 that will graduate this semester at the gigantic University of Texas at Austin); and it graduates more Hispanics and African Americans than any other high-ed institution in the country. So if you’re trying to reach young voters in the Sunshine State, Miami-Dade College makes a lot of sense.

*** Manchester United: Beginning at 8:00 pm ET, the conservative Americans for Prosperity is hosting a presidential cattle call in Manchester, NH, which will be attended by five potential candidates. Tim Pawlenty, Rick Santorum, Mitt Romney, Herman Cain, and Michele Bachmann (in that order) will deliver eight-minute opening statements, and then will receive a handful of questions from the audience (which will be vetted by AFP President Tim Phillips). MOST significantly: This will be Romney’s first cattle call since CPAC with other presidentials.

*** Heir to the GOP establishment throne? We already know that there's a Tea Party void in the nascent GOP presidential field. The question is who fills it. (Bachmann? Palin? Trump? Someone else?) Similarly, there's an establishment void, at least for GOP donors. That's why Mitch Daniels' name has become very popular ever since Haley Barbour declined to get in the race -- he's a proxy for establishment types who aren't for Romney (and won't be until or unless he's the nominee), but who also aren't sold on Pawlenty. But if Daniels doesn't run, who can fill that void? Paul Ryan? Chris Christie? Pawlenty by default? By the way, Real Clear Politics writes about the campaign-in-waiting for Daniels if he does run.

*** Upstairs, Downstairs: The New Hampshire Democratic Party has filed a complaint with Federal Election Commission, raising the question that Romney’s state political action committees amount to “soft money” for a federal candidate running for office. As the Boston Globe reported earlier this month, "The former Massachusetts governor has become a master of a controversial but legal fund-raising technique that relies on a network of loosely regulated state political action committees to collect those funds. Consider the gifts to Romney from Donna G. Marriott — the wife of Marriott chairman J.W. Marriott Jr. — and J.W.’s brother, Richard E. They wrote checks totaling $215,000 to Romney’s state political committees, according to public records reviewed by the Globe." Romney spokesman Andrea Saul tells First Read, "This is totally political. For those wondering what the Obama jobs plan entails, it apparently involves hiring more lawyers at the FEC to handle frivolous complaints filed by his minions."

*** Minding the (Super PAC) gap: A few weeks ago, we wrote about the emergence of the Democratic Super PACs, in response to the GOP ones that popped up last cycle, like the Karl Rove-backed American Crossroads and Crossroads GPS. One of these Dem Super PACs is being led by former Obama White House aides Bill Burton and Sean Sweeney. And today, First Read can confirm that Burton and Sweeney have established two different groups: Priorities USA (which, like GPS, can accept unlimited donations but doesn’t have to disclose donors) and Priorities USA Action (which does have to disclose donors). Politico reports that two other well-known Democrats are involved with the groups: Paul Begala and  Geoff Garin, who will be its lead pollster. Priorities USA Action also has this launch video. “It’s time to stand up and fight back,” the video says.

*** Bleak environment: The League of Women Voters is launching a seven-figure TV ad buy hitting GOP Sen. Scott Brown and Dem Sen. Claire McCaskill on the environment. The ad aimed at Brown will air in Boston, while the one aimed at McCaskill airs in St. Louis and Jefferson City.

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Isn't it time someone in the MSM starts connecting the dots here?

Appears combover carnival barker, has also dabbled in discrimination!

Every time Donald CHUMP blows his birther whistle more & more Racists fall out of the closet:

In an episode early in Donald Trump's career, his New York real estate company was sued by the federal government for discriminating against potential black renters. After a lengthy legal battle, it ultimately agreed to wide-ranging steps to offer rentals to nonwhites.

The little-remembered case provides crucial context for the current discussion centering on Trump and race. The celebrity businessman made news last month when he declared, "I have a great relationship with the blacks. I've always had a great relationship with the blacks."

He has recently come under fire for attacks on President Obama that critics have described as racially tinged. CBS anchor Bob Schieffer, for example, said Wednesday there is "an ugly strain of racism" in Trump's recent (baseless) accusations that President Obama should not have been admitted to Columbia. Also yesterday, Trump told a black reporter, unprompted, "Look I know you are a big Obama fan."

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CCoQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.salon.com%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2Fwar_room%2F2011%2F04%2F28%2Fdonald_trump_discrimination_suit&ei=APW5TYq9OaST0QHg5ogG&usg=AFQjCNGWGFJaCUe6ea7ZD5e7puxsncSEpg

But WAIT! That's NOT all:

While Donald Trump’s team of gumshoes are now travelling the globe trying to find evidence of how President Obama got into Harvard Law School even though he is one of the blacks, it turns out his very own son-in-law, Jared Kushner, is one of those rich types who sneak their way into the Ivy League despite being a poor student that Trump suddenly despises so much. Kushner’s father bought the slot for $2.5 million; later, this nice dad went to prison for tax evasion.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBkQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwonkette.com%2F444243%2Fdonald-trumps-son-in-law-is-guy-who-bought-his-way-into-harvard-not&ei=Lfi5TdCLNIXi0QHw8Kz5Dw&usg=AFQjCNFZFHa_NL7jHjq_hR6mgGakUGJQvw

Anyone know when the CHUMP will be releasing his personal finances? After all, he IS a 'man' of integrity, isn’t he?

Oh NEVERMIND! Guess NOT!

Donald Trump may have persuaded President Obama to disclose a copy of his official birth certificate, but the potential Republican presidential candidate is telling supporters and opponents they will have to wait until he discloses his personal finances.

Mr. Trump said Wednesday evening that he’ll disclose them “at the appropriate time,” implying that may not be until he announces his intention to seek the presidency. “As you know, if I announce [a presidential bid], I will have to release very detailed information about my wealth,” Mr. Trump said on CNN.

Read more: http://www.thestatecolumn.com/articles/donald-trump-worth-wait/#ixzz1KrcTdmou

Will someone PLEASE stop the Merry-Go-Round of insanity - I want to GET off!

Donald – YOU”RE FIRED!

  • 20 votes
#1 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:35 AM EDT

Feisty:

It just does not stop. The GOP/TP is running out of control now. They know they are loosing and they are becoming more and more vile everyday. It is going to get worse.

This is what happens when they have nothing but slimy rhetoric.

There are 6 Republican Sen. now up for recall in WI with 3 democrats. Other states are looking to change their recall laws to throw these bums out.

People like Ryan others are getting booed off the stage at their town hall meetings.

Rallies are still going on across this Nation.

The people are pissed and the GOP/TP is going to pay a price come 2012.

  • 21 votes
#1.1 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:38 AM EDT

As if Trump wasn’t enough!

There's this little nugget:

Rep. Sally Kern, R-Oklahoma City, said minorities earn less than white people because they don’t work as hard and have less initiative.

“We have a high percentage of blacks in prison, and that’s tragic, but are they in prison just because they are black or because they don’t want to study as hard in school? I’ve taught school, and I saw a lot of people of color who didn’t study hard because they said the government would take care of them.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/28/sally-kern-affirmative-action_n_854936.html

Any of you baggers or birthers want to take a shot at defending this?

Did you catch that?

Black folks don’t work as HARD as white people and have LESS initiative!

I had to double check the calendar this morning to confirm it’s still 2011 and not 1955!

You can put all the mayo & mustard you want on it – at the end of the day it’s still a turd sandwich!

  • 21 votes
#1.2 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:38 AM EDT

Great Post Feisty

I agree with Navy. The T-baggers have a monolpy on LIES and innuendoes

  • 10 votes
#1.3 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:39 AM EDT

Foolish Republican /T-Baggers Give Speechs instead of Town Halls Worst nightmare for Our Nation.

What happened to democracy? The republicans think they had this *AHEM*mandate. It was so easy to bus phony grassroots people in to town halls with Koch Brother’s money to get a mandate.

Now we have real live honest to goodness grassroots people due to the Wisconsin debacle to Florida organically with out the Koch money to protest the Republican;s taking away democracy,

Guess what, some of them are Republicans rebuking this monster Paul Ryan created.

Radio or Not's Nicole Sandler attended a "town hall meeting" with her congressman Allen West - who did not allow questions. She attempted to follow up on his non-answer about medicare's future, leading to her arrest and incarceration.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq8BEzknL3k&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQBrCiF9gXI&feature=player_embedded

Memo fo Joe in Albany from Politico

Ryan dodges protesters in police car

http://images.politico.com/global/news/110427_paulprotest_ap_328.jpg

Hey, MSM let’s this story of America fighting back against the GOP/T-Bagger machine alive and get rid of the birther story.

If you must talk about Trump, remind Chicagho and President Obama are not are not corrupt. Looks like Trump has mob ties

Rolling Snake Eyes: Trump's First Casino Partners Had Alleged Mob Ties

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/28/donald-trump-rolling-snake-eyes_n_854177.html?ir=Business

Think of the President’s little children. Black the birther story out.

Oh, what’s up with this gop/T/Bagger inverse relationship?

Oklahoma GOPer: It's A Fact That 'Blacks' Don't Work As Hard So Eliminate Affirmative Action???

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/04/ok-goper-its-a-fact-that-blacks-dont-work-as-hard.php?ref=fpblg

minorities earn less because they don't work as hard. "We have a high percentage of blacks in prison, and that's tragic," Kern[a GOPer]said, "but are they in prison just because they are black or because they don't want to study as hard in school?

Keep in mind, they are not racist. they just say racist things. Give me a break. That Statemen is like the KKK going a lynching mob.

  • 9 votes
#1.4 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:43 AM EDT
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#1.5 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:46 AM EDT

Will someone please call Spankie, and see what I think about all this town hall business?

(other than the fact that I think it is pretty amusing, considering the 'mandate' from last November, of course)

  • 11 votes
#1.6 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:47 AM EDT

It appears the game is up. People are starting to realize the type of people the GOP/TP are and they do not like it. The new GOP/TP stands for just about everything that is not American. They want to repeal Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, voting rights, women's rights, gay rights, workers rights, religious rights and the list goes on.

This is going to come to a head soon as the people see more and more of this repugnant behavior by their politicians.

Are we ready to start talking about Jobs in this country, stimulating the economy, improving education, a serious and responsible deficit reduction plan yet?????????

I didn't think so.

  • 13 votes
#1.7 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:49 AM EDT

Great information, Feisty. There's a lot of nasty, ugly, hateful stuff hidden under that comb over. It's time the MSM starts exposing it.

  • 9 votes
#1.8 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:52 AM EDT

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

As if Trump wasn't enough!

Rep. Sally Kern, R-Oklahoma City, said minorities earn less than white people because they don't work as hard and have less initiative.

"We have a high percentage of blacks in prison, and that's tragic, but are they in prison just because they are black or because they don't want to study as hard in school? I've taught school, and I saw a lot of people of color who didn't study hard because they said the government would take care of them."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/28/sally-kern-affirmative-action_n_854936.html

Any of you baggers or birthers want to take a shot at defending this?

Did you catch that?

Wow GF we are on the same page again this AM. It is inconceivable for a t-baggee or birther to make a defense,

Take into account ...

THEY ARE NOT RACIST; THEY JUST SAY RACIST THINGS.

  • 10 votes
#1.9 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:57 AM EDT

Navy Disabled: It appears the game is up. People are starting to realize the type of people the GOP/TP are and they do not like it.

You must be watching a different game. It appears that many Democrats in the Senate are agreeing with the Republicans on the Debt Ceiling, and the need for restrictive spending actions be taken as part of any deal to raise the Debt Ceiling.

Democratic Senators Conrad, Manchin, and Pryor, along with the leftwinger from Minnesota Klobuchar all will vote against the Debt Ceiling increase unless there is "a real and meaningful commitment to debt reduction". And any meaningful debt reduction will include reform of the entitlement programs.

Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/debt-ceiling-more-democrats-threaten-to-vote-against-raising-borrowing-limit/2011/04/28/AF5KvY8E_story.html

The game is up, and the Tea Party is winning Navy. There is no question about that fact.

  • 9 votes
#1.10 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:58 AM EDT

"The game is up, and the Tea Party is winning Navy. There is no question about that fact...."

Say, Smiff- pass that 'spliff' on over this way, wouldja?

  • 8 votes
#1.11 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:01 AM EDT
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And..

Who would have Thought that the RACIST RELIGIOUS FUNDIE Bev would have to come out with the RACISM Card so early today..

  • 5 votes
#1.12 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:01 AM EDT

Great posts, Feisty, Bev, Navy .... Thanks for bringing back up the alleged "mandate" of the November 2010 election ... the "mandate" that was NOT.

Exit polls on election day pegged jobs and the economy as the most important issue in the election, followed closely by a change in partisan politics in Washington. Fewer than a fourth of voters said they were motivated by Tea Party positions - while 56% said they paid NO attention to the Tea Party.

But LOOK!

The Tea Party has taken over the GOP! Their extremist positions have made the partisan divide even WORSE.

And WHAT have they done with the alleged "mandate?" WHERE ARE THE JOBS? WHAT ABOUT THE ECONOMY?

ALL the positions and legislative flurry since January, coming from the GOP/TP have NOT produced any jobs - and have so threatened the economy that Standard and Poors has issued warnings about potential consequences.

Their social policy legislation is virtually fascist, oppressive and regressive.

And they can't find ANY credible leadership.

After the crushing defeat of Republicans in 1976, there was talk that the GOP might be doomed. Reagan, crafting an alliance of the ultra-right and fundamentalist factions, saved the party but ultimately did it no favors. Today's disarray is the ultimate extension of that trend. Now there is certainly a real possibility that the GOP is indeed doomed. Well, that's one funeral I would LOVE to see!

  • 17 votes
#1.13 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:02 AM EDT

JS1:

You keep living in your little septic world. You guys are loosing. People are speaking and you are in denial. Why am I not surprised. You and your kind have been render impotent and you know it.

  • 12 votes
#1.14 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:04 AM EDT

Steve - Bev and others cited sources. You just cite CRAP.

  • 12 votes
#1.15 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:04 AM EDT

I think Steve is depraved and suffering from separation anxiety due to being an abused brown man of the racist people he defends

  • 9 votes
#1.16 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:05 AM EDT

THEY ARE NOT RACIST; THEY JUST SAY RACIST THINGS.

You know I LOVE you GF!

But, I have to disagree on that, WORDS carry the same consequences as actions...

In then end it's all about Hate - pure & simple!

PS: Don't feed the trolls! PLEASE ignore little stevie today -it's MUCH more fun to watch him become agitated when no one pays any attention to him!

  • 10 votes
#1.17 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:05 AM EDT

Navy, seeing that list of rights the GOPTP wants to eliminate in one sentence, mind boggling.

  • 11 votes
#1.18 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:05 AM EDT

Ahh Feisty. No wonder the Dopes Of Nope (herein after known as The DON's) hate you.

You always come out swinging, land the first punch and the last punch and leave then scrambling for answers. I love it. Keep those comments coming. :-)

  • 11 votes
#1.19 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:08 AM EDT
RVZ555Deleted

What i'd like to know is, when will ANY responsible journalist ask the Donald this question:

You've filed for bancruptcy protection 3 times, so why do you feel it's OK to ask the courts to releive you of Your Finacial obligations & Not Pay Your Creditors?

Also, when he says excuse Me, you cut'em off & again ask the same question. When he interupts 3 times with Excuse Me, you pull the Plug & the Interview's OVER!

  • 13 votes
#1.21 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:13 AM EDT

I guess you all have moved on to a new one.

What can I say?

There are SOOOO many to chose from with the right wing nitwits stellar cast of birthers and baggers!

Unlike, you one trick pomies who come here daily to bash President Obama!

Remember, variety is the spice of life! ;o)

@ Tom, CA - Thanks for the shout out!

  • 8 votes
#1.22 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:14 AM EDT

Here's Obama's economy: "A McJob looked mighty appealing to tens of thousands of people in the Chicago area. More than 75,000 job-seekers applied for 2,000 area positions with McDonald's during the fast food king's first-ever "National Hiring Day" on April 19."

Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/75000-Applied-for-2000-Available-McJobs--120952429.html?dr#ixzz1KvCJtsHQ

75,000! Yeah voters, just keep voting Democratic in Chicago. You too can flip burgers, if you're lucky.

This must be part of Obama's "Winning The Future" (WTF).

  • 11 votes
#1.23 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:16 AM EDT

I see the hate for TP and trump over took the message delivered. Trump is one person, not a hole party or movement. TP is a movement that by far the American public voted for in the last election. LOL All I see here is hate being spewed by hate mongers. Of course there is no defense for Trump. Just like there is no defense for Biden and his claim of how him and Obama won the iraq war. Both sides have their idiots. Lots of Idiots.

Getting back to the story line: I see Obama is stated as being busy with important stuff, presidential stuff and the GOP is cattle calling. With opening remarks like that and their biased approach, it is a wonder this web page has not fallen onto the hard times of their TV channel. Thank goodness most Americans have common sense and will vote to complete the change we were promised in 2008 and we screamed for in 2010. 2012 is coming and we will get our change.

Independents for the repeal of Obama and his health Care mess.

  • 4 votes
#1.24 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:23 AM EDT

Smiffy, get a clue: If McD's added 50,000 jobs in ONE day, after years of shrinking its employment - hey, that means there are CUSTOMERS out there who can now better afford to patronize the stores!

President Obama not only led the way in rescuing America's economy, but also kept things from getting worse globally.

So, you want fries with that?

  • 13 votes
#1.25 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:24 AM EDT

I guess that all those people applying for entry level jobs with low pay disproves how people drawing unemployment won’t even try for jobs that pay less than their old job.

  • 11 votes
#1.26 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:26 AM EDT

caradjt - See my post above about the election results of 2010.

TP candidates were a small percentage of those elected to office last year. The issue of the Health Care Access act as a voter concern was, according to election day exit polls, very far down on the list of reasons people cast their ballots - and involved a small percentage of voters, as well.

You are deluded to think otherwise.

  • 8 votes
#1.27 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:27 AM EDT

Now ya'll just quit pickin on Sally y'hear?

What can you expect, she had to run against a transexual last year and the voters kept mistaking her for her opponent. It was painful to watch.

Besides, ya'll just don't understand. We don't keep our mentally deficient folks locked up in the attic, we bring 'em out in the sunlight for ever-body to see and then elect them to public office.

When the Oklahoma House and Senate are in session it's like looking at the day room of a sanitarium.

So, c'mon guys. Cut us some slack. We'd have to build five new mental hospitals to house all the loonies if we didn't let them hold public office!

Next you're going to be talkin bout Sally and her long standing feud with Ellen Deneres (sp?). Ain't ya'll got wood to chop or somethin?

  • 8 votes
#1.28 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:31 AM EDT

It's becoming quite clear that the GOP has done an exceptional job of explaining that it is now time that the federal government puts its financial house in order. The GOP has taken an extreme risk in talking about entitlement reform, but Obama's clumsy thrashing around in an attempt to demagogue the GOP has fallen flat. Many Congressmen and Congresswomen in Obama's own party are even now joining the Republicans for meaningful cuts to the budget and to reforming of entitlements. The Left continues to demagogue the GOP, but that too is failing, as the country is not in the mood for "Politics as usual" from the Democrats.

Game, set, and match Lefties. Get used to it.

  • 7 votes
#1.29 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:34 AM EDT

The folks over at Radio Rwanda aka FOX NEWS couldn't get any slimmer. The have the monopoly on filth and proven racism. Bear in mind now, the idiot doofus men and bleached blond monkey girls who keep their jobs by holding it down showing their tails have the audacity to talk about president Obama's deceased mother and father..

A Slippery Character': New Details Emerge About Obama's Father

[snip]

Documents obtained from the U.S. immigration service paint a picture of a man who 'had an eye for the ladies' and, according to his file, had to be warned several times to stay away from girls at the university.

...It also considered his earlier Kenya marriage as a grounds to deny him a visa extension but concluded that 'polygamy was not an excludable or deportation charge'.

Other notes make reference to some kind of campaign to drive Obama senior out of the country and back to Kenya. The memo advised officials to withdraw his funding.

It said: 'Obama has passed his general exams, which indicates that on academic grounds he is entitled to stay around here and write his thesis; however [Harvard] are going to try to cook something up to ease him out.... They are planning on telling him that they will not give him any money, and that he had better return to Kenya and prepare his thesis at home.'

President Obama's mother met his father at a Russian language class at the University of Hawaii in 1960. At the time he was the first and only African student at the university.


Read more: http://nation.foxnews.com/barack-obama-senior/2011/04/28/slippery-character-new-details-emerge-about-obamas-father#ixzz1KvSLDoKV

Where it says-- "Other notes make reference to some kind of campaign to drive Obama senior out of the country and back to Kenya. The memo advised officials to withdraw his funding".

Isn't that what nut job Birther Queen who Lawrence O'Donell threw off his show is doing to fuel more paranoia and racism about his SSN?

Please someone tell me how this isnot only RACIST but an offense to his little children and the memories President Obama has of his family?

Explain that. Don't believe me? Check out the racist comments in the comment section.

Stop this racism.

  • 5 votes
#1.30 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:48 AM EDT

Game, set, and match Lefties. Get used to it.

That should read "Game, set and match GOP/TP. Get used to it".

You guys just do not see the forest for the trees, your heads are stuck so far up your butts that the world is crumbling around you and you do not see. I got news for you all. This is going to effect you all every bit as much as it effects the rest of us (unless you are one of the elite 2%).

You keep right on supporting those that are working against the best interests of this country and there will be no room in my boat for ya. I hope you are good a treading water, this is where we are going so "Get used to it" or become part of the solution instead of being the problem.

  • 5 votes
#1.31 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:49 AM EDT

Game, set, and match Lefties. Get used to it.

You have to admit, it's funny that taunting is all the birthers & baggers have left in their bag of dirty tricks! lmao!!

  • 5 votes
#1.32 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:00 AM EDT

JoAnnaSmith1, Bev, Fiesty, Navy,Steve, et. al.: good morning. Late start today, just had to watch the tube to see "the kiss" with my daughter. Isn't it nice to see, even with everything else thats going on, a beautiful blushing bride and groom starting their life together. I know its corny and their are more important things going on, but what a nice way to start a sunny spring day.

As to "the Donald", I have not watched his "reality" tv series, and never will. Having been through the process of attempting to get an upper management position multiple times, how cruel is the term "you're fired" to indicate that you did not get the job. I'll bet he does not even have is HR department take the time to send rejection letters or even telephone calls to those who, after multiple interviews, are not chosen to be hired for a position. I just think the whole process is designed to put his hair in front of the camera. Trump will not be the Republican nominee for President. He will stretch out the process as long as he can, but even the GOP/TP does not like a 3 time loser who has also divorced multiple wives.

I don't think the Republican Party will be able to field someone who is able to be elected in 2012. The recent takeover of the party by the latest version of the fundamentalist christian right will not allow a moderate to be the nominee. Hopefully, both parties will be able to move more toward the center in 2016 and we will have a choice of moderates after President Obama's second term. The vileness of the far right and extremism from the far left just can't be sustained.

  • 3 votes
#1.33 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:05 AM EDT

Navy, as always excellent points.

What Smiffy wrote is inaccurate, as usual. The President created his National Debt Commission on Feb. 10, 2010. He led the way in bringing a focus on fiscal responsibility and recognition that as the country emerged from the Bush Recession it would be wise to then seek appropriate means of reducing deficits and addressing the national debt.

The debt was not a leading issue in the 2010 election campaign. The GOP/TP, as I wrote above, turned its back on the voters in order to pursue its ultra-right, Libertarian-tinged agenda regardless of the best interests of the nation. The Ryan budget, as we have discussed at length, was not a fiscal proposal but an ideological one. Any budget that adds nearly $6 trillion in debt and doesn't get anywhere close to significantly reducing deficits for 60 years is in fact fiscal insanity.

The right has indeed succeeded in recent months in dragging the issue to the center of the debate, but it was late coming to the table. And it isn't even serious about the manufactured "crisis" it proclaims - it's all a BIG LIE intended to mask their reactionary ideological agenda.

  • 6 votes
#1.34 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:13 AM EDT

John A;

Great post to end the week. I agree and I think the right is floundering around in their own mess and the people are starting to get wind of it.

They ran in 2010 on a platform for Job Creation in this Country and improving the Economy. To date they have done neither. In fact they do not even have any plans to address their campaign rhetoric. As you correctly noted the deficit and HCR were both way down the list according to virtually every exit poll. They like to ignore the facts and even make some up as they try and figure out who and what they really are now.

Hope you are feeling better.

  • 5 votes
#1.35 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:33 AM EDT

Nice to see out this AM dirp101

I don't think the Republican Party will be able to field someone who is able to be elected in 2012.

I agree. I am still waiting for the Republicans to reject this insanity. It's time to take a stand. Will the real republican stand?

  • 3 votes
#1.36 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:48 PM EDT

RVZ555

Bev, in her daily, barely sensical squealing about White racism, actually hurled a racial slur at a white poster. She of course wasn't smart enough to realize it and the other libs here are regularly too embarrassed and too PC to call her out on it or anything. But it was funny just the same. Thanks for the laugh, Bev! in her daily, barely sensical squealing about White racism, actually hurled a racial slur at a white poster. She of course wasn't smart enough to realize it and the other libs here are regularly too embarrassed and too PC to call her out on it or anything. But it was funny just the same. Thanks for the laugh, Bev!

#9 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:02 AM EDT

Let me get you straight, liberal white poster here reflect astuteness; no one has to be PC to feel the pain the overt resurgence of racism the GOP-T-bagger and birthers are doing to this nation. Just so you know, nothing is funny about condoning blatant racism and then lying about it. Why don’t you do youself a favor and stay in the closet and amuse yourself watching your freak sideshows and carnival barkers?

If you must complain perhaps your time would be better spent, when you peep out of your racist closet, to complain about the lack of co-operation these racist engender. We have so many important economic and social issues to solve instead of appealing to backwards thinking. The GOP-T-bagger and birthers are the first to yell about the President doing nothing; yet essentially it is they doing nothing by continuously harping on the President’s , of all the, leader of the free world, legality. What should matter to you are jobs, education, social programs. Women’s/LBGT rights, the debt ceiling, mortgages/homelessness, high gas prices, government regulations, defense, and all the all the other moral, cultural, political and social issues that threaten our nation which GW Bush f’d up along with the previous republican presidents.

To me you and the rest of the rabid right wing nutjobs pursuit of a birth certificate is a trivial exerciseThat never ends. What did you learn different that what was stated in the earlier version? In fact, the long form is not even legl since it has no seal. Certified birth certificate copies, also called authorized copies, contain the complete details of a person's birth and bear the raised seal of the state. Certified birth certificate copies are not public records and only a few eligible parties may obtain them. A certified birth certificate is the version you will need to apply for a passport or driver's license, as well as for use in legal proceedings and other official matters.

Read more: How to Get a Certified Raised Seal Birth Certificate | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_6298668_certified-raised-seal-birth-certificate.html#ixzz1L13LicgE

What is true is Donald trump is feeding a whole bunch of birhers heaping shovels of racist horsesh!t in codesd form.

http://factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

More to the point, a visible seal is only issued by the. No issuing seal can be seen on the document released today by Obama. Yet, it still not acceptable to you and othe rapid right wings.

Your lack of acceptance conveys your desire to live in pre civil and post-civil days and des not accomplish the serious problems this country faces.

BTW: speaking of fakes….

DONALD TRUMP HAS HIS OWN PROBLEMS WITH "BALDERS" WHO CLAIM HE'S NOT 100 PERCENT AMERICAN BECAUSE "THE HAIR-LIKE SUBSTANCE THAT CROWNS MR. TRUMP'S HEAD IS FROM A FOREIGN COUNTRY."

  • 2 votes
#1.37 - Sat Apr 30, 2011 9:21 AM EDT
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First: In my opinion Racism and Bigotry are WRONG, period, no matter what the party affiliation. Democrats and Republicans alike need to be called out into the open for their remarks. Calling these repugnant people out in our posts does not make the poster a racist or a bigot. I do know racism and bigotry are still alive and in some ways growing. That does not make it right.

What a week ender. “Our President” releases his long form Birth Certificate making Donald Trump and the rest of the “Birther” movement look like the idiots that they are. Now that this lie has been exposed and Birther’s are attacking his educational record with what is basically a “racist” slur (agenda). People; We can no longer ignore that the hate for President Obama appears to be driven by the fact that he is a black man and he is doing a good job considering that he has no support at all from the “Obstructionist Party”. The GOP/TP has tried every dirty trick in the book to stop him and make him a failure as Boehner and McConnell (and others) have vowed to do, but he has still been able to improve the economy and create jobs like he said he would. He pulled this country away from pending Bankruptcy that was engineered by the previous administration. Can you imagine just how much farther along the path to total recovery we would be if the GOP/TP just stopped the race based hate of this man and worked instead to help the country?

This is the by product of a party that has nothing to run on come 2012. They have no plans to create jobs, to stimulate the economy, improve education or even a viable plan to address the escalating deficits and debt. It is all “bait and switch”. So what is left? Exactly what you see above. That is all the GOP/TP has left. Race based personal attacks, lies and deceit.

This repugnant ideology of some of our elected officials has to stop. It is dragging this country into a “fascist/oligarchy” state that is becoming more evident every day as we watch the DRACONIAN Spending Cuts to Middle Class programs where those so called savings are really used to fund huge tax cuts to corporations and the rich. This is “Class Warfare” and the record setting redistribution of wealth and power from the middle class to the top 2%.

GOP/TP controlled States are re-writing voter registration Laws designed to disenfranchise tens of millions of voters from their constitutional right to vote. These laws are an assault on the low income, people of color, students, elderly, sick, disabled etc. These are people that traditional vote democrat. See a pattern here. They cannot run on any ideas to create jobs, stimulate the economy, and improve education etc; they have used those slogans in the last election process and still have not delivered on even one of them. The people will not buy this scam again. So what is left for them to campaign on?? What is their agenda?? Who benefits from their agenda?? Who gets hurt from their agenda?? How does their agenda move this country forward?? Does it improve the quality of life for all Americans or just a few??

We better start asking these questions above and more of every politician that walks up to a podium and starts their rhetoric.

The new GOP/TP Party is becoming a political entity that supports the restriction or outright denial of the following rights/programs to the citizens of the U.S.A.

The Right to vote in an open and fair electoral process free from outside interference (Citizens United decision)

Women’s reproductive rights and their right to equal pay for equal work, stop calling single mothers druggies and whores

Gay Rights to marriage, adoption

The Freedom of Religion to live in a country free from McCarthy style religious intolerant hearings

The opportunity to a quality education for all children that only serves to make this country stronger, education should not be just for those that can afford it.

The opportunity for quality and affordable Health Care, again it should not be based on those that can pay and screw everybody else

The right to form a union

The right to safe highways, food and product safety

Accountability of our elected officials. Somewhere along the line we have allowed politicians to basically get away with murder, this needs to be stopped and we are seeing how important this really is in the ongoing rallies and recall procedures being exercised by our citizens today across this country, This in part is also part of our Constitutional Right to vote the bums out.

This is just an abbreviated list of some of the more repugnant ideology being proposed by our politicians (mostly from the GOP/TP).

The “Sleeper” has awakened!!!

  • 11 votes
#2 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:35 AM EDT

FR: And he [Obama] delivers a commencement address at Miami-Dade College (to numerous potential voters in the swing state)…

Is it ever not about campaigning/fundraising for this goof?

  • 8 votes
#2.1 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:48 AM EDT

Is it NEVER about jobs with our new speaker, per the 'mandate' last November?

  • 13 votes
#2.2 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:52 AM EDT

Is it ever not about campaigning/fundraising for this goof?

The only goofs on this page are the same repugs from the right that have no new ideas and the ones they have suck. All they can do now is call people names and provide not one iota of an idea to help this country.

The game is up with you goofs as well. We are all too aware that you people have no wish to be part of the solution. Instead you want to continue to be the problem. Lets see how that is going to work for you in 2012.

  • 10 votes
#2.3 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:54 AM EDT

JoAnnaSmith

Is it ever not about campaigning/fundraising for this goof?

Which goof are you talking about? John Boehner? The infamous dispenser of tobacco lobbyist checks on the floor of the House?

  • 10 votes
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    #2.5 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:58 AM EDT

    US Navy,

    Name a conservative regular on FR that says Obama was born in Kenya. Name and post a conservative regular hear at FR that has actually said anything overtly racist about Obama.

    You say racism and bigotry are wrong, yet day after day you and Bev and Feisty cry nothing but racism and bigotry.

    Who are the real racist and bigots?

    Is it simply that is all you guys have?

    Regarding the Repubs having no ideas .........

    Ryan put forth a budget. Obama hasn't. Where's Obama plan ....... being formed by yet another committee.

    Even Santorum put out something on national security. Obama has been president for 2 years and who has any idea what his policy is?

    Leading from behind is a policy?

    • 8 votes
    #2.6 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:00 AM EDT

    JSI,

    Please show some respect. The man's name is President Obama. You big old goof.

    • 10 votes
    #2.7 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:01 AM EDT

    With the economy now flat-lining, gas prices exceeding $4/gallon in many places, GDP moving down and inflation ticking up, and Obama talking about tax hikes, as well as Obama’s union lackeys/thugs at the National Labor Relations Board siding with the unions and refusing to let Boeing construct their airliners in the right-to-work-state of South Carolina, it’s now become quite clear. Capitalism is not Obama’s strong suit.

    • 10 votes
    #2.8 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:03 AM EDT

    Bob,

    I have seen plenty. Most of them are the Racist that make their guess drop in from time to time.

    Here is a nice example from your team:

    Love TEXAS

    "Obummmer
    is an insolent, militant, incompetent, narcissistic, America-hating
    slug. He is union slave who has never worked a day in his life, yet he blames
    the failures of those who chose their own path on the successes of those who
    earned their way through hard work and commitment to family, community, and
    country.

    He is an opportunistic, community agitator and a dishonest predator who is
    constantly on the prowl for a situation or occurrence that he can exploit to
    benefit his agenda, no matter how it affects the future of the nation. He hates
    American culture, American values, and American people. He hates the
    Constitution of the United
    States and he abhors the Declaration of
    Independence.

    He is a proponent of separatist, multiculturalism and its inherent disruption
    of progress toward a unified America
    and the common good of all citizens. He is for open borders and closed minds.
    He has no regard for the rule of law or for the fair and impartial, but
    critical judgment of criminals and terrorists.

    He is for INSTANT EQUALITY and he is against EQUAL OPPORTUNITY.

    He is a Godless worm who is in favor of continual government intervention so as
    to alter the courses and lives of those who are the least fit to survive and
    prosper.

    He is for Affirmative Action, political correctness, welfare, never-ending
    unemployment benefits, labor union control, globalism, wealth redistribution,
    restriction of free speech and movement, energy-based strangulation of business
    and prosperity, and punishment through taxation.

    He has a progressive, leftist, talking-point excuse for each and every one of
    his patriotic, social, intellectual, and contributory shortcomings, of which
    there are many.

    He is pathetic.

    He is a Democrat.

    He is Barack Obama.

    Most disconcerting of all; he is our President."

    • 4

    • !

    #61 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:48 AM EDT

    • 7 votes
    #2.9 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:09 AM EDT

    With the economy now flat-lining, gas prices exceeding $4/gallon in many places, GDP moving down and inflation ticking up, and Obama talking about tax hikes, as well as Obama’s union lackeys/thugs at the National Labor Relations Board siding with the unions and refusing to let Boeing construct their airliners in the right-to-work-state of South Carolina, it’s now become quite clear. Capitalism is not Obama’s strong suit.

    And instead of offering a solution you just keep regurgitating more GOP/TP talking points. This is all you and bobby numbers and little stevie have. Time is running out and the GOP/TP better start doing their job as they were elected to do.

    Now there is a plan.

    • 7 votes
    #2.10 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:09 AM EDT

    Bob,

    Here is another class act from your side.

    tkevin

    "for over 230 years, EVERYBODY knew what the term 'natural born Citizen' meant

    DO NOT LET THESE ANTI-AMERICANS REDEFINE OUR CONSTITUTIONAL STANDARD

    now the neo-comms and their anti-constitutional allies have twisted the meaning to include 'native born' and 'anchor babies'

    this blatant constitutional crisis must end

    obama, while an anchor baby born in hawaii, is still not a 'natural born Citizen'

    he is still illegitimate"

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    #31 - Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:35 AM EDT

    • 6 votes
    #2.11 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:16 AM EDT

    Bob,

    Do you need more examples? There are a whole bunch of them out there.

    • 7 votes
    #2.12 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:27 AM EDT

    Nice work Job1!! ;o)

    Bobby - is suffering from the pesky selective memory syndrome!

    • 4 votes
    #2.13 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:30 AM EDT

    Navy,

    The economy is flat-lining not because of Obama's skin color, but because of his failed stimulus, war on business, over regulation, over spending ......

    Gas prices are skyrocketing because of Obama's policy to drive up price of gas, the wanton crippling of the energy industry - not his skin color.

    Inflation is rising not because of Obama's skin color, but QE1, QE2 ....$600 billion given to his buddies at Wall Street and the flooding of printed money, the devaluation of the dollar.

    Too stupid to debate this Navy ......... that's fine ........ just call everyone a racist.

    • 7 votes
    #2.14 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:41 AM EDT

    Job,

    Who is Love Texas - never have seen him/her - certainly not a regular at FR.

    tKevin - same thing.

    Thanks for trying.

    • 5 votes
    #2.15 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:46 AM EDT

    bobby numbers:

    You just keep proving my point. And by the way it is impossible to talk with a "mushroom". See I can play the name game too.

    • 5 votes
    #2.16 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:55 AM EDT

    and the Dow Jones / Stock market is rising because of ???????? obviously not any rethug actions - (is the congress still on vacation???? again?????) It Seems Pres. Obama does more in 1 week then bush did in 8 years (and don;t give me this Bull Ring he is out campaigning - Almost Every trip Bush took also invovled some kind of fund raising activity.

    • 5 votes
    #2.17 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:55 AM EDT

    No mystery why Obama the academic didn't go to London, he wasn't invited! The Brits aren't too thrilled with him either!

    • 3 votes
    #2.18 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:56 AM EDT

    nutjob1. The examples you provided did not say anything about Obama being born in Kenya or anything about race. But of course, the libbie definition of racism is disagreeing with Obama or not liking Obama so it is not surprising you used them.

    Place the race card here , play the race card there. Here a race card, there a race card, everywhere a race card. Barack Obama had a race card. E I E I O

    • 5 votes
    #2.19 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:58 AM EDT

    Bob,

    I gave the post and time that they posted. Perhaps if you use the stills you have to research, you will see them, and many more. If needed I can provide more.

    • 3 votes
    #2.20 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:04 AM EDT

    Rocco,

    It doesn't appear that understand what you read. It doesn't take a lot of smarts to see the meaning of these hate post. Clear Racist.

    • 3 votes
    #2.21 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:08 AM EDT

    Nutjob 1. You made accusations about race and being born in Kenya. Neither of your supporting posts make reference to Kenya or skin color. Thanks for proving that you define not liking Obama or disagreeing with him as racism. With your libbie logic, if you were not a Caucasian and didn't like a Caucasian president, you woulld be a racist too. You just proved Bev is a racist. Way to go nutjob 1

    Play the race card here, play the race card there. Here a race card, there a race card, everywhere a race card. Ol' nutjob1 had a race card. E I E I O

    • 5 votes
    #2.22 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:42 AM EDT

    Okay Rocco,

    One more for you. Now please read slowly. Enjoy.

    First Thoughts: Feeding the beast vs. starving itOn feeding the internet beast vs. starving it…

    Seta

    "I still don't trust the powers at large form rearranging records. Records being forged, fake birth certificates being created. The reason for these delays in presenting it was to make sure it could not be traced back to being fake. Otherwise it would have been presented the first week in office. When I was drafted into the army I had to produce a birth certificate. That took less than a week to get a copy send to the induction center near San Antonio. Now why is this half breed Kenyan different? Another Why! Why is the muslim bastard that kill those GIs in Texas still alive?????? Why isn't he six feet deep packed in pig S%^T.• 2 • !

    #53 - Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:17 AM EDT

    • 1 vote
    #2.23 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:00 PM EDT

    Way to go nutjob1. You finally found one. Now take out that broad brush and paint everyone a racist with it.

    Play the race card here, play the race card there. Here a race card, there a race card, everywhere a race card. Ol' nutjob1 has a race card E I E I O

    • 2 votes
    #2.24 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:18 PM EDT

    Job1: we know the racists are out there, on both sides of the aisle. Many of them post here, on FR, some in the other blogs.

    That there are "African Americans" who don't like "European Americans" (better known as blacks who hate whites) is very evident. Jesse Jackson, Sr. ; Rev. Al Sharpton and Louis Farrakhan are a few of those who have exhibited, if not racist, at least some indication that they do not particularly like white people. Likewise the comments from Trump, Barbour, Limbaugh don't make me think that they will be having fund raisers for the United Negro College Fund.

    I'm white, and I grew up in a very racist neighborhood of Chicago. Although not perfect, I think that I have outgrown such an attitude. Let us all hope we trully can, to paraphrase Dr. King, judge people by the content of their minds and character, rather than just on the color of their skin.

    • 3 votes
    #2.25 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:21 PM EDT

    Not everyone Rocco, just the Birthers and those who spread the equally bigoted view that President Obama is a closet Muslim with a secret plan to impose Sharia Law.

    Of course that covers a big segment of the Conservative world...

    • 3 votes
    #2.26 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:21 PM EDT

    Old Rocco just doesn't get it. Oh well.

      #2.27 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:36 PM EDT

      What's really amazing, is that with most of the posters, you really can't tell whether they are black, white, hispanic, asian, whatever.

      Although, I do suspect that InTheMiddle,TX may be a redneck. jk :)

      • 1 vote
      #2.28 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:43 PM EDT
      Reply

      "And that's the way it is..." this week.

      The Royal Wedding "of the century" took place today. Thank goodness our Founding Fathers outlawed titles in this country. Cinderella story or not, it seemed offensive that the lovely Kate Middleton was constantly referred to as a "commoner".

      Haley Barbour discovered he had a "difficult path" to the presidency. He claims he doesn't have that 10-year "fire in the belly" needed. Since he mentioned that "fire" months ago, more likely the "fire" missing was that of voters.

      Mitt Romney accused our President of "engaging in one of the biggest peace-time spending binges in American history...." Guess Mitt chooses to ignore that former President Bush took a budget surplus and doubled the national debt during his eight years of peace time.

      WikiLeaks reminded us that the Bush administration created an island prison outside the laws of our justice system; one without due process, without trials, without evidence, and in one case without even knowing the identity of a person they imprisoned.

      GOP Rep. Paul Ryan and the 234 other republicans who voted for his Budget plan have been caught on tape facing angry constituents at home. Ryan said "his critics don't get it", people don't understand what his plan does. No, they do understand and that is why they are angry. Rep Duffy tried to tell his constituents that "it's premium support, not a voucher". Rep Meehan said his vote was for a "blue print" not the plan itself. Nice tries guys but a vote is a vote is a vote and 235 GOPers voted to kill medicare and cut taxes for the rich and the folks back home aren't buying the "bait and swith" they're selling.

      Speaker Boehner tried to dodge constituent anger by claiming the Ryan plan "is an idea worthy of consideration"; one of many, there are other ideas. Trouble is 235 GOPers voted YEA for that "worthy of consideration" plan and it was sent to the Senate.

      Ron Reagan said that the GOP has been playing their constituents as chumps for so long and thank goodness Ryan is getting taken to the cleaners by informed constituents.

      Florida and other republican controlled legislatures continue their assault on voters' rights. While millions in the middle east rebel and fight for the right to vote, the GOP believes in denying the right to vote to as many Americans as they can.

      Maine's Govenor LePaige doesn't "think working at age 11 hurts anyone." Trouble is his idea of "working" is not delivering newspapers after school.

      President Obama released his long-form birth certificate. Just as the Certificate released in 2008 said--he was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961. What a sad day for America, 150 years after the Civil War started and 36 years after Civil Rights legislation was made law, our first African American President was asked for "identification" because "carnival barkers" possess small, narrow, bigoted minds.

      Our President knew and said that releasing the long-form birth certificate would not satisfy some. Sure enough, the whack-a-doos are questioning its authenticity, just look at the date it was released, looks like photo shop, what is that line down the side....

      Romney commented that "what President Obama should be releasing is his jobs plan." Seriously, Mitt, why aren't you asking Speaker Boehner and the GOP/TP where their jobs plan is--in 2010, they promised jobs, jobs, jobs but have yet to produce a single job-creating piece of legislation.

      Donald Trump continued his journey down Bigot Road. He said he really didn't care if the President released the birth certificate or not but he cheered himself ten times saying how honored and proud he was to have played a role in forcing our President to prove he was born in Hawaii. Yes, Trump, you should be proud and feel honored to have flown your "Jim Crow" flag high enough for all to see.

      Sarah Palin repeated Trump's lie that Bill Ayers wrote President Obama's books and said that "birthers are curious" about where our President was born; and added that Trump was being "treated unfairly". Really? One more small, bigoted mind tries for the Jim Crow spotlight.

      Cheers to Senator Harry Reid; he plans to bring the Ryan plan to the Senate floor for a vote next week. This puts the Senate GOPers in a bind. If they filibuster, the TP will think they aren't serious about the debt. If they vote "nay", the TPer's back home will be furious. And if they vote "yea", all the voters back home will be angry, very very angry. How sweet it is.

      Levi Johnson has a book coming out this fall, "Deer in the Headlights"; his tell all about life with the Palins. Regardless of its literary value, no doubt it will sell because many do love to read gossipy secrets.

      The debt ceiling was raised seven (7) times during the Bush 43 years. Boehner once said "not raising the debt ceiling would mean financial disaster worldwide." Now he has a new version--raising the debt ceiling requires concessions from President Obama or else the GOP/TP will risk "financial disaster worldwide". One more opportunity for the GOP to create a giant pile of dung, dump it on the Oval Office floor, and blame our President for their stinky mess.

      Inexplicably, the democratically controlled Massachusetts House passed legislation limiting union collective bargaining on health care benefits. If, and it's a big if, it passes the Senate, Governor Patrick said he will veto the bill; he indicated that he has no intention of going down Wisconsin's union busting road.

      The Oklahoma House voted to ban affirmative action--one GOP representative, Sally Kern, said....blacks and women just don't want to work that hard. Where do they find these people?

      Wisconsin Governor Walker wants to "exempt" the voucher private schools from testing--that way no one will know if those private schools fail or succeed. When it comes to "private" business, the GOPTP motto is: what we don't know won't hurt us.

      The Vermont Senate voted 29-9 for state-operated single-payer health care. The House already passed single-pay; now the bills will be reconciled. The Governor said he will sign it. Cheers to Vermont for planning to throw Wall Street traded health insurance companies under the bus.

      • 18 votes
      #3 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:40 AM EDT

      Jody- EXTREMELY good reading this morning. THanks for taking the time to put this up. It IS a prime target for 'collapse', though, considering it's completeness and accuracy.

      • 11 votes
      #3.1 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:51 AM EDT

      Jody -

      Someone asked a question in the Boiler Room the other day about the definition of "American Exceptionalism". Between your weekly wrap-ups that we look forward to every Friday and the brilliant piece you wrote yesterday about the poison that is Donald Trump, I think your writing qualifies as an example of that term. Thanks for some truly "exceptional" writing.

      • 11 votes
      #3.2 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:57 AM EDT

      Jody- OUTSTANDING recap of the week's political events. I look forward to this wrap-up every Friday.

      This post was simply OUTSTANDING and BRILLIANTLY written.

      • 8 votes
      #3.3 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:58 AM EDT

      Jody:

      Another great post to end the week. You have had a very strong week and I thank you.

      • 7 votes
      #3.4 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:11 AM EDT

      Thanks for the excellent summary of the week in politics, Jody. How truly sad that the Republicans can't do better than birtherism, slurs at the President and obstructionism. In these difficult times, real input and cooperation would help address our nation's challenges and benefit us all but they are not forthcoming.

      Speaking of our nation's challenges, I was priveleged yesterday to attend one of the 8 national roundtables being sponsored by Startup America, the White House initiative on entrepreneurship. Administration officials were there to explain what is going on to encourage entrepreneurship but more importantly, to listen to the business people there discuss the challenges facing small businesses and hear their concrete proposals to address those challenges. It was an honor to participate and also encouraging to see that people are working on these issues.

      • 13 votes
      #3.5 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:12 AM EDT

      The Vermont Senate voted 29-9 for state-operated single-payer health care. The House already passed single-pay; now the bills will be reconciled. The Governor said he will sign it. Cheers to Vermont for planning to throw Wall Street traded health insurance companies under the bus.

      Wow! I didn't know this! This is awesome news!

      • 11 votes
      #3.6 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:21 AM EDT

      Thank you for the praise and high complements but most of all it is good to know you enjoy reading my posts.

      • 5 votes
      #3.7 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:27 AM EDT

      Great post, it's been a very eventful week. I find this comment particularly amusing;

      Rep Duffy tried to tell his constituents that "it's premium support, not a voucher".

      Actually that's a pretty truthful statement which inadvertently reveals the ugly truth about GOPTP plans to destroy Medicare and Medicaid. It actually IS "premium support", support that in no way is intended to be adequate to provide the needed cost of medical insurance...for those who won't be excluded.

      • 8 votes
      #3.8 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:34 AM EDT

      Amy:

      Yep, my Governor said yesterday he will sign the bill. My State took "Our Presidents" offer that if we could do it as well or better than his plan, he would support it. SO we did it.

      I think it is going to be the smaller States that lead this. Biggest reason is there is less crap to deal with to get something done.

      Most of the DR's support this saying that in the long run it will lower their in house administration costs and it allows them to know exactly what they are getting paid and for what.

      • 8 votes
      #3.9 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:35 AM EDT

      WikiLeaks reminded us that the Bush administration created an island prison outside the laws of our justice system; one without due process, without trials, without evidence, and in one case without even knowing the identity of a person they imprisoned.

      "Less than a month after signing an executive order to close the Guantanamo Bay prison camp, President Barack Obama has quietly agreed to keep denying the right to trial to hundreds more terror suspects held at a makeshift camp in Afghanistan that human rights lawyers have dubbed "Obama's Guantanamo."

      www.alternet.org/rights/128273/

      Care to comment Jody?

      Inexplicably, the democratically controlled Massachusetts House passed legislation limiting union collective bargaining on health care benefits. If, and it's a big if, it passes the Senate, Governor Patrick said he will veto the bill; he indicated that he has no intention of going down Wisconsin's union busting road.

      But from the Boston Globe: articles.boston.com/2011-04-27/news/29479557_1_unions-object-labor-unions-health-care/2

      "The modifications bring the House bill closer to a plan introduced by Governor Deval Patrick in January. The governor, like Murray, has said he wants workers to have some say in altering their health plans, but does not want unions to have the power to block changes."

      Doesn't sound like a veto threat to me.

      • 3 votes
      #3.10 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:37 AM EDT

      Amy and Navy,

      That is great news about Vermont. They are a great example of how a great state can get good things done.

      • 6 votes
      #3.11 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:45 AM EDT

      Job1:

      Great posts, all, to end a weird week. Vermont does have it moments after all it is the land of Howard Dean and Bernie Sanders. Nothing boring with these two.

      • 3 votes
      #3.12 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:59 AM EDT

      Many believe that Billy Ayers wrote BO's first book! How can you be surprised by this? By the way folks, how many of you attended college with BO? None? It seems no one did! Interesting?

      • 1 vote
      #3.13 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:06 AM EDT

      It is true that Liberal/Socialists are extremely vindictive, and love to smear and spend! This site is proof of that. God help us! I bet the only time Beverly from Chicago smiles is when she gets that weekly check in the mail.

      • 2 votes
      #3.14 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:14 AM EDT

      miked-332794

      Perhaps you are just another dumb a$$ racist, that is to dumb to do your own research and thinking.

      • 1 vote
      #3.15 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:35 AM EDT

      You know, Alan, it's like this. Congress refused to cooperate with our President to close Gitmo, they refused to fund it and the GOP used fear to keep trials out of their cities and states. As for Governor Patrick, the statement I read said he would veto the bill.

      Oh, mikee, mikee. I feel sorry for those who believe such complete lies to justify their hate of a person; and feel sorry for you, too, for many reasons but one only needs to read your comments to know a couple of them.

      • 3 votes
      #3.16 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:45 AM EDT

      I wonder where he was when he was student editor of the Harvard Law Review?

      • 2 votes
      #3.17 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:01 PM EDT

      @Jody

      I'm not talking about closing Gitmo. I want to know how do you justify the same abuses at Bagram? No due process, indefinite incarceration, sleep deprivation tactics (torture?)

      news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8621973.stm

      Believe there has been very little change in a practical sense between Bush and Obama when comes fighting wars. Look at the increase in the use of drones in Pakistan, and now authorized in Libya. Go read what candidate Obama said about his criteria to start a war in the New Yorker and then tell me what he did by bombing Libya.

      • 4 votes
      #3.18 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:02 PM EDT

      Yeaahhh Vermont....good job!

      OT......Why do the posters at fox.com dislike me so much? They accuse me of being un-American. Maybe it's because my birth certificate looks EXACTLY like the one released by President Obama.

      • 2 votes
      #3.19 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:12 PM EDT

      Vermont Girl:

      Where have you been? Many of us missed your posts and was wondering.

      • 2 votes
      #3.20 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 4:53 PM EDT
      Reply
      Comment author avatarSteve-505729Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

      Copy and paste. Copy and Paste. Nothing from the Educated Idiots as is the Norm..

      • 5 votes
      Reply#4 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:43 AM EDT

      But YOUR post, on the other hand, is quite .....well......Uh......Ummm.......

      • 7 votes
      #4.1 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:48 AM EDT

      DBO:

      But YOUR post, on the other hand, is quite .....well......Uh......Ummm.......

      Was "pointless" the word you were looking for?

      • 10 votes
      #4.2 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:50 AM EDT

      If you read something other than your Archie & Jughead comic books little stevie - you just might learn something! ;o)

      • 8 votes
      #4.3 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:50 AM EDT

      The truth hurts, doesn't Stevie? The GOP/Teabaggers/Birther Racist have shown their hand, and it's ugly.

      • 7 votes
      #4.4 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:54 AM EDT

      Fesity:

      Little Stevie cannot read. To read one needs a functional brain, and judging from his posts yesterday and today he is pretty much brain dead.

      • 5 votes
      #4.5 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:14 AM EDT
      Reply

      Let's all vote 

      • 5 votes
      Reply#5 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:44 AM EDT
      Comment author avatarSteve-505729Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

      X

        Reply#6 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:46 AM EDT

        Now we're GITTIN' nowhere.....

        Excellent post, Steve.

        • 6 votes
        #6.1 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:59 AM EDT
        Reply

        Lawrence O'Donnell is my new hero. Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU, Mr. O'Donnell for trying to bring some sanity to the idiocy of politics.

        • 11 votes
        Reply#7 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:47 AM EDT

        Well said fellow Hoosier!

        • 7 votes
        #7.1 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:02 AM EDT

        Hi, Julie. I agree; Lawrence was brilliant Wednesday night. Echos of Keith's special comments sounded throughout the show!

        • 4 votes
        #7.2 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:37 AM EDT

        Larry O has really come into his own. He started out slow and I was not too sure where he was going but he seems to have found his voice and he has the experience behind him to make his points stick.

        • 3 votes
        #7.3 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:01 AM EDT
        Reply

        I saw some complaints from rightwingers on this message board yesterday about how the liberal lame stream media wasn't reporting on the Massachussetts state legislature voting to restrict union bargaining rights. Well, last night Rachel Maddow did report on it and had on the head of the firefighters' union to explain why his union may withhold campaign donations to wimpy Democrats who are caving to budget deficit hysteria and passing anti-union legislation. I guess that means Maddow isn't a member of the liberal lame stream media. She's a real journalist.

        • 14 votes
        Reply#8 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:49 AM EDT
        RVZ555Deleted

        FR: "We already know that there's a Tea Party void in the nascent GOP presidential field. The question is who fills it.......Similarly, there's an establishment void, at least for GOP donors."

        Okay, I give up - if there's no Tea Party candidate and no establishment candidate, then which OTHER Republican party do all these people who have been "campaigning" for the last year represent? How many different Republican parties do we have now, anyway? And more importantly, how are voters supposed to tell them apart?

        Or should we just say there's a TOTAL void in the Republican party these days and leave it at that?

        • 9 votes
        Reply#10 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:05 AM EDT

        JoAnne--as a fellow Pennsylvanian, which Republican party do you think Santorum belongs to? The one that failed to re-elect him?

        • 8 votes
        #10.1 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:18 AM EDT

        JoAnne:

        The GOP/TP does not have a candidate that believes in all Americans. The ones that are showing interest currently in running are for the most part are ones that have already failed.

        The GOP/TP has overreached big time in trying to take away the basic rights that this Nation was built upon and thousands and thousands died protecting them.

        The GOP/TP dishonors this great Nation with their selfish and it is all about me attitude.

        President Obama in 2012.

        • 10 votes
        #10.2 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:25 AM EDT

        Good question, Steeler Fan - maybe it's the Leesburg, Virginia GOP, where he and his family lived most of the time he was supposed to be representing you and me here in Pennsylvania. Or maybe, like Newt Gingrich, it's the "Retro" GOP, made up of guys who haven't had any political relevance since some time in the last century. Let's see.....I know, maybe like Trump and Palin, it's the LIMOM Republicans - the "Legend In My Own Mind" branch. The only thing I know for sure is that it's definitely NOT the Gay Republicans! (though that always seemed kind of like an oxymoron to me anyway.....)

        Navy - If this is all they've got, you can change that to "President Obama in 2012 - in a Cakewalk".

        • 5 votes
        #10.3 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:41 AM EDT

        Good question, JoAnne. I'm not sure even they know who they are let alone what they represent--they seem confused.

        • 5 votes
        #10.4 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:48 AM EDT
        Reply

        My wife asked me last night why the republican/teabagger folk are so mean in how they talk about our President.

        • 6 votes
        Reply#11 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:48 AM EDT

        Steven,

        Good question. Perhaps they know he is smarter than they are and it scares them. Also, many of them have never condemned the birther movement, and that tells me where they stand.

        However, I will take my hat off to Bill O’Rally for doing so.

        • 4 votes
        #11.1 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:56 AM EDT

        Reminds me of when my daughter and I were watching the news with everything going on in WI and Egypt at the same time. People demonstrating, upset with thier government, angry at what they were doing. We had a good discussion about what the difference between the Republicans and Democrats were and concluded that the Democrats truly try to help the less fortunate, while Republicans appeared to just be evil. Not all of them, just the ones who have been elected recently.

        • 5 votes
        #11.2 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:34 AM EDT
        Reply

        Fiesty Redhead. it's not the governments place to take care of kids who are in school or quit. It's there responcilbilty to take care of themselves. Stop enabling these kid and making excuses for them. I don't care if you are a teacher. Stop feeling sorry for them and teach them to take care of themselves and they will be better off. You can start by teaching them how to dress and talk when they go for an interview. They say they are making a statement, but in reality they look like someone you won't hire. They also need the guideancfe rom there parents. As a teacher you know how hard it was to get to where you are I doubt very much if you had anyone feeling sorry for you and you had parents guideance. Have a great day.

        • 3 votes
        Reply#12 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:54 AM EDT

        nancy -- I believe you're confused. I'm not a teacher and those are not my words, please go back and re-read the post!

        Have a great day as well!

        • 3 votes
        #12.1 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:59 AM EDT

        Nancy I agree with you to a point. People must be responsible for their lives and need apply themselves to make something of themselves.

        But people also need great mentors and teachers to help bring that about. Until I got in the military I was worthless and high school and barely passed. I went to a poorer school that did not have the same facilities as a better funded school system.

        so if you grow up poor chances are you will be ina poor school system. If you remember the phrase seperate but equal you will also remember it wasn't so equal, and even so to this day.

        So when you have a poor school system with less than inspiring teachers, youa re going to have a less than inspiring culture. so people will escape but others will see that society has left them with less.

        So I agree with alot of what you say, but it also like saying here is a spoon; go dig to china, and it's your fault if you fail.

        • 1 vote
        #12.2 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:19 PM EDT
        Reply

        I have lived in segregated Arkansas and Mississippi. The way we have treated the blacks in our country is disgraceful. They were not given as good educations and treated as if they were dirty and deseased. We have torn them down just as our so called non racist birthers are tearing down President Obama. Now they want him to disclose his school records. Donald does not believe he deserved to be in a good college, much less get good grades.

        What they the Republicans do not want you to know is that if a black man is given a chance and is not going to school hungry and barefoot he can suceed. President Obama would have to be born in Kenya as no black born in this country could be smart.

        In the early 70's I helped a black man get out of prison. I was the Assistant Administrator in a rest home and a dying woman asked me to write a letter to San Quentin, California to ask if her son could visit her before she died. Due to my letter it turned out they released him from prison immediately. At the age of 14, barefoot and hungry, he tried to rob a grocery store with a wooden gun. They threw him into San Quentin, forgot him and he was there until he was 21 when suddenly they realized after getting my letter and reviewing his case that he should have never been there. For a while I lived at Hunters Point a horrid slum for the blacks of San Francisco. As a white woman and the story out about how I had helped I was treated as a Queen. Anyone who touched me was dead.

        This happened in California not the South. If we spent as much on health and education as we do on prisons we could turn America around.

        Just because we have treated Blacks terrible in the past does not mean it has to continue. This whole birther issue is just another way to discredit all black men. As you birthers well know only a black man would lie his way into the highest office of the land.

        • 7 votes
        Reply#13 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:06 AM EDT

        "Color" does not equal "Character"; the real issue was not the birth certificate but rather the secretive nature that Obama excruded around it which in turn brings in the question of character and trust.

        • 1 vote
        #13.1 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:28 PM EDT

        Then Annirich proves my point.

        President Obama has never been secretive about his birth certificate. Your group just decided it would not accept anything he supplied, even the latest. But of course it would bring up the question of his character and trust and not yours.

        • 3 votes
        #13.2 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:32 PM EDT

        annirich: please crawl back into your cave. The year is 2011, not 1911. No President before President Obama has had to prove, repeatedly, that he is a "natural born US Citizen." The President was not at all secretive about the place of his birth. He said he was born in Hawaii, and guess what, he was. What is amazing is that no one questioned whether John McCain, who was not born in a US state, was a natural born US citizen. I guess if he had a little bit of a tan, then that might of been asked.

        Donald Trump should be "really, really proud" that he has proven himself to be a racist, and an idiot.

        • 3 votes
        #13.3 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:36 PM EDT

        Annirich, has any other presidential nominee been asked to show the public their birth certificate? I don't believe so. Do you believe the election board or whomever is actually charged with the duty of checking these things didn't do their job? Do you think it was a conspiracy from the time of President Obamas birth some 40 something years ago to do this so he could grow up to become president? I believe rather than as you conclude that it questions his character and trust, the mere question of the birth certificate shows the character of the asker. Since it has never been a public request before for politicians to show their birth certificates.

        In the beginning he did show it, but the birthers did not accept it as such and wanted something different. And the fact that they still don't accept it is proof that it was not about the birth certificate but about something else. What do you think that something else was?

        • 3 votes
        #13.4 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:15 PM EDT
        Reply

        Steven, Delaware. A question every person should be asking. One of the answers is simple: Fear; the fact that their accepted way of life, their beliefs in their sense of superiority is disappearing and President Obama is the visible symbol which says the country has changed and they're being left behind.

        • 5 votes
        Reply#14 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:26 AM EDT

        President Obama is the visible symbol which says the country has changed and they're being left behind.

        I prefer to be "left behind" rather than to relinquish my freedoms to the practice of socialism premeating from the White House and the Progressive/Socialist Democratic Party.

        • 2 votes
        Reply#15 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:10 PM EDT

        What freedoms have you relinquished since Obama has been president? Specifically what socialistic practices are you referring to?

        Maybe if you elaborated on what you are saying rather than just making these broad hyperbolic statements there could actually be some sort of discussion.

        • 2 votes
        #15.1 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:18 PM EDT

        I prefer to be "left behind" rather than to relinquish my freedoms to the practice of socialism premeating from the White House and the Progressive/Socialist Democratic Party.

        So you would rather live under a regime that wants to take away your rights to vote, your reproductive rights, gay rights, union rights, religious freedom, freedom of speech, affordable Health Care, equal Educational Opportunities. Under the new GOP/TP reign this is what you are looking at.

        You people on the right are so blind as to what is going on in this country why don't you just move out. Pack up your diapers and leave or stay and help us fix the problems.

        • 3 votes
        #15.2 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 5:24 PM EDT
        Reply

        Some say to “give up the bashing of Bush and Cheney” but what they need to recognize is that while there isn’t much to be gained by “beating on” Bush-Cheney there is a real need to not forget their gross irresponsibility and costly performance. As long as there are still those who strongly and stubbornly supported them and all that they did, who are of the same mentality today, who actively seek to reestablish the same style of government again, then Bush-Cheney, and especially what they cost this country, should never be forgotten or excused.

        Those who supported them are today literally seeking to instal another ‘puppet’ whose ‘strings they can again pull’ for the sole benefit of the few, while once again the majority, including the total middle-class, would loose more and just be fed more subterfuge. The ultra-conservatives, the Special Interests, the powerful, influential and extremely wealthy few are aggressively and arrogantly using their power and wealth to con and manipulate public opinion in order to achieve their self-indulgent ends. There are those representatives who, while totally focused on their own political ambitions, will do whatever is the bidding of those few. Together they actively use creative appeals, without conscience, to biases, prejudices and emotional attachments just to dupe and sway the public hoping to destroy their opponents and succeed in deceptively again gaining the control they so selfishly abuse.

        No, Bush-Cheney should not be forgotten, their actions and the drastic costs should be vividly remembered and continually faulted so that everyone realizes what returning to ‘more of the same’ would cost.

        • 2 votes
        Reply#16 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:17 PM EDT

        Some say to “give up the bashing of Bush and Cheney” but what they need to recognize is that while there isn’t much to be gained by “beating on” Bush-Cheney there is a real need to not forget their gross irresponsibility and costly performance.

        Well said, but unfortunately there is a collective amnesia when it comes to the conservative malfeasance that brought about the worst economic disaster since the Great Depression as well as two disastrous wars. People WANT to forget because it's easier to blame whoever is trying to repair the damage for not doing it fast enough, despite the fact that the damage is so severe it's going to take years to undo. It's this impatience that brought us the teabag Congress of 2010 with its threats to let the government go into default if they don't get their way.

        Now, with Obama getting the blame for the economy and the gas prices, we could well get another Republican president in 2012. And that one would almost certainly be even worse than George W. Bush because every one of the current crop of Republican potential candidates must pander to the teabaggers, birthers, and other loony birds that infest the GOP. The Republican Party may have been extreme in 2000, but not as extreme as they are now. Heck, even Karl Rove is scared of some of these people.

        • 5 votes
        #16.1 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:42 PM EDT

        You do understand that Obama has run the debt up more in 19 months than Bush did in six years right? And also that it was the 1997 Clinton new Sub-Prime Mortgage Industry, Freddie and Fannie that was the catalyst to the financial meltdown? And that the Dems have had control of Congress since 2006?

        • 2 votes
        #16.2 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:22 PM EDT

        annirich: Public debt January 2001 was $5.7trillion, December 2008 $10.7trillion, net increase while George W. Bush was President, $5trillion.

        Public debt (estimate) today, $14.7trillion, net increase under President Obama $4trillion.

        BTW, President Bush was in office for 8 years, although you may not be counting the time he was on vacation (lol) and since 2006, the Democrats had filibuster proof control of Congress for just over 2 years since 2006. Were you home schooled, or did you just pay attention to your basic math and current events for the last several years.

        Freddie, Fannie, the repeal of Glass-Steagle, the community reinvestment act, the non-regulation of hedge funds, removal of the CFTC ability to regulate swaps and derivative products, the reasons for the financial meltdown are many, but they can be summarized in the words of Gordon Gecko, "Greed, for lack of a better word...."

        What is absolutely amazing is that the Republican controlled House, as well as many Republican Senators are actually trying to defund the implementation of the new financial regulations by the SEC and CFTC.

        • 3 votes
        #16.3 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:04 PM EDT
        Reply

        Keeping your premise in mind, what would you consider the Unions to Obama?

        • 1 vote
        Reply#17 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:25 PM EDT

        for that matter not only the Unions, but GE, GM & Chrysler (who are wanting another $21 BILLION byw) how about the $2 BILLION to Brazil to employ Brazillians so we can buy THEIR oil and employ THEIR people; how about all the HC waivers to the Unions? GMAFB.

        • 2 votes
        #17.1 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:14 PM EDT

        The healthcare waivers are only for 1 year, not permanent!!!

        • 1 vote
        #17.2 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:22 PM EDT
        Reply

        WOW! Nothing like a good old fashioned royal wedding to set everyone off. I haven"t seen this much vitriol in the many months I have read this post. No need for name calling, slandering or otherwise diminishing another human being. That happens without our help.

        Me, I'm waiting for a serious proposal from anyone to address the fiscal health of this country. I don't believe that debt is necessarily evil, only too much debt. And, on our current trajectory, we will get there soon if we aren't there already.

        Regardless of how or why we have the debt we have, it exists. Collectively, we are all responsible for not speaking up sooner and electing politicians that didn't see the consequences. I'll give the last two presidents some leeway for having to address the Great Recession but the fact is we have been accumulating debt for nearly a century. And, due to the anomoly of the baby boomer generation after WWII, we have a growing liability that is could have been anticipated but was not.

        To deal with the debt, we have to look at the deficit. If we don't find a way to reduce the annual deficits, how are we supposed to start paying down the historical debt?

        I don't pretend to have the answers but it seems to me that everyone will have to acknowledge that today's business as usual is not the solution. We made this bed and now we have to move forward.

        What we need is an agreement on basic principles. Not political principles but fundamental agreement on how much society is willing to help others versus survival of the fittest. Helping others can come in the form of reducing benefits from the government to paying more into it for the better good.

        I'd like to think that Americans have some level of empathy for those less fortunate. Just not sure anymore what that level is.

        On the debt ceiling issue, it is amazing to me that some would prefer not to honor the obligations that have been created in the past. Whether you like the current situation or not, not approving the debt ceiling is breaking the bond of America's honor. The world will continue on if we don't raise the ceiling. It could even be the wake up call this country needs to stop avoiding the issue with frivilous hate and anger. But, I for one, prefer to be a man of my word, and collectively, we have given the world our word we will honor our commitments.

        So, stop the name calling and tell me what you believe society as a whole should do for the greater common good.

        • 2 votes
        Reply#18 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:58 PM EDT

        No one knows what would happen if the debt ceiling is not raised. It's never happened.

        • 1 vote
        #18.1 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:06 PM EDT

        Doesn't it make sense to STOP SPENDING?

        • 1 vote
        #18.2 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:19 PM EDT

        It does make sense to stop spending. Let us stop spending on the military industrial complex, subsidies to oil companies, farms, politicians, stop cutting taxes which cuts the governments revenue!!

        No one disagrees with stopping spending. The arguments are what should be cut.

        The democrats want to cut waste, and give aways to big business. You know like the medicare advantage subsidy that goes to insurance companies to run medicare plans and then on top of that get paid more than doctors working with medicare directly for the same services. Like changing the medicare prescription law to allow medicare to negotiate medication prices (like all insurance companies can do). They want to cut subsidies to big oil who have been recording record profits for years and farms that get paid not to grow. How about cutting funding for the military equipment that the military itself says it does not want or need.

        The republicans want to cut programs that help most Americans in one way or another. They want to privatize (big business give away) governmental programs that people have paid into their entire lives. These programs were created because there was a need. Medicare was created because the elderly were dying in poverty because of medical bills and guess what, the insurance industry didn't care. Just like before the healthcare bill, people get sick too bad!!! You are maxed out or they claim that your ailment was pre-existing or they drop you because now you actually need them even though you have paid in for years.

        It is obvious that these programs came in to be because they were needed. Do you suggest that we go back to the way it was before? When people are living in the street with curable diseases because it is too expensive to be a caring society--do you want them living in a box in front of your house?

        • 2 votes
        #18.3 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:38 PM EDT
        Reply

        Listening to many of these posts gives me the unsettling feeling I've walked into to a meeting of the new communist party. Idealists, academics, unionists, anti-capitalists, folks that have probably never really worked hard at anything except to complain about those that build, develop, inspire, and work for the common good.

        Have you ever wondered ow long this country will survive if the growing population of people dependent on government handouts exceeds the number of producers in the country? My guess is not long.

        • 1 vote
        Reply#19 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:32 PM EDT

        Mike, just out of curiosity, why do you assume that, I'm sure most people who post on this vine, left or right are not sitting on a computer bought with a welfare check. I retired from the Military after 30 years, I now work two job, one from Monday through Friday and one only on Saturdays, not because I have to but because I want to, and I am a democrat who believes the government should monitor and regulate a free market, so it does not go crazy and cause a recession and almost a depression.

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        #19.1 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:43 PM EDT

        Mike you are exactly correct. You know, academia is fine but you cannot run businesses on it. So far the way that this administration has set forth all these regulations, stipulations and ham-stringing is it any wonder that the businesses don't hire? Obama did NOTHING the first 2 years in office but the HCR which now unions, certain states etc all have been granted waivers. There is no doubt that this guy had a big socialistic "agenda' when he took office and it is coming to fruition now and you can see the results. Our country is suffering big time.

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        #19.2 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:46 PM EDT

        Ann, I have to ask, didn't the economy add 200k jobs last quarter and isn't the economy improving according to every economist out there, and didn't the unemployment drop to 8.8 from almost 10%. So I'm not sure what you are saying? Do you feel things are getting worst?

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        #19.3 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:59 PM EDT

        Annirich, what surprises me is your lack of understanding the fact that much of what your POTUS is doing, is popular with many and has been for many years. You can demigod the man, but it will not change his popularity, or confirm your conspiracy's

          #19.4 - Mon May 2, 2011 10:06 AM EDT
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          Well, if not spending totally was an option then it would make sense. However over three quarters of the spending is not optional, Defense, Medicare/Medicaid and Social Security.

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          Reply#20 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:33 PM EDT

          of which the medicaid/medicare and SS have to be changed. I see nothing wrong with raising the SS age. or privatize it. The Defense, it's my understanding that there were items that we are spending money on to produce but that is not used? Something has got to happen because the dollar is down to about zip which will indeed destroy all of us.

            #20.1 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:02 PM EDT

            My question is, why are cuts in our spending in the DOD off limits ?

            Couldn't we just decide that, maybe, we really don't need to be spending American dollars and blood for oil ?

            Do we have to be the policeman to the world, on contract to Halliburton and Xe (and others) ?

            Do we really need so many military bases in Germany, Japan, Italy ?

            As a side note, are revenue increases (you know, the other side of the budget equation) also off limits ?

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            #20.2 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:16 PM EDT

            Ann, I agree something has to be done, but privatization will not fix the problem. Medicare is going Bankrupt because it's paying out more than it is taking in, the private insurance companies are in business for one reason and one reason only, to make as much money as they can. What happens to seniors when they are using more in medical care than they are paying in premiums. How can a for profit insurance company afford to keep paying that seniors medical bills? One of two things will have to happen, they will have to raise every ones rates to make up for the loss, or they will have to drop those seniors who are costing them too much money. If you don't believe that, how do you think the insurance companies will make up for the eventual loss.

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            #20.3 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:29 PM EDT

            Retired: Nationalize Health Care is NOT the solution. We have the best health care system in the world which will be destroyed. All that needed to be done was to open the state lines for competition and tort reform. And if you google and read about Donald Berwick, the head of Medicare/Medicaid you'll be shocked. He is a huge proponent of rationing. As an elderly person who would need a medical procedure, forget it; you're not going to get it.

              #20.4 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:11 PM EDT
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              And, the First family can have more time with the Space people there, such as Congresswoman Giffords.

                Reply#21 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:03 PM EDT

                I find it astounding that a large portion of our society who are not wealthy really and truly believe that large corporations have their best interest at heart. The gulf oil spill was a primary example, BP knowingly took short cuts to avoid spending more money, Coal mines are another example, they rather pay the fines associated with violations then spend money for safety improvements because it's cheaper to pay the fine. Finally look at wall street, all of these corporations have one thing in common. The bottom line is profit, however, where ever and whom ever it hurts. Th recession was not started by Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac, that is a lie that they would like you to believe, the recession was started by banks who made these risky loans not because they had to but because they wanted to, they then bundled these mortgages up, knowing they were risky sold them as investments, they were given an A1 credit rating by a corrupt rating agency, then they were insured by AIG, so no risk to the banks, or so they thought. So when the housing market finally crashed as most people knew it would, all of these mortgages defaulted thus creating a chain reaction in the market. If all of these bad mortgages had not been sold as derivatives the whole crash would have not happened, because the banks would not have been taking such risk with these mortgages,

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                Reply#22 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:17 PM EDT

                Retired: I beg to differ. The banks were pressured into making the sub-prime loans. What do you think Obama did as a community organizer? Freddie and Fannie were indeed the catalyst to the meltdown. The loan were made to millions of "unqualified, stated income" people who could not more afford a mortgage than fly; then that toxic paper was bundled and sold globally so when D-day came and these mortgages all went south, they defaulted globally! If all of these bad mortgages had not been sold as derivatives the whole crash would have not happened, because the banks would not have been taking such risk with these mortgages...no....if Clinton's "everyone-gets-a-mortgage" sub-prime industry (he established the entire industry; read NYTs article 1997 "Clinton's Sub-Prime Mortgage Industry) had not come about the entire fiasco might not have been as bad.

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                #22.1 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:49 PM EDT

                RM: the real interesting thing about the CDO's and the credit default swaps (which is what really drove AIG under) is that the swaps have been TOTALLY unregulated. You didn't have to have an interest in the underlying debt/security on which the swap is based to obtain payment on the swap if the default happened.

                In effect, the banks insured in case the debts went bad, sold off the debt, and have every incentive to make sure the debt does go bad. When the debts did go bad, the companies behind the "insurance" AIG, Bear Sterns, Lehman Bros. and others got burned. Only as a result of the near total destruction of the banking industry for THE ENTIRE WORLD, did we find out that the banks have been, for almost 30 years, acting as a big gambling house. The major banks used real estate mortgages as their chips and bet black and red at the same time. When the housing market bubble burst, its like 00 came up.

                No one had been checking to see that sufficient assets were set aside to pay off the swaps, or even how much was out there. All of the information on swaps was "off the books." The greed associated with the hedge fund industry even allowed them to package 2/28 "ninja" loans as A+, mortgage backed securities. And many bankers don't want the rules to change. They like the black box, no disclosure method of dealing with these "assets". Only the more intelligent realize that, the next time a meltdown happens, it could be a lot worse than 1930.

                I think it unfortunate that only a few countries were smart enought to nationalize their banks (at least temprorarily) and put into effect some very stringent controls. Time will tell if we are able to control ours.

                  #22.2 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:23 PM EDT

                  Ann, remember, if those mortgages were held by the banks, they would have been less likely to have made as many risky loans as they did. In the January 2011 Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission report, they reported the cause of the crisis could have been avoided and was cause by widespread failure in financial regulations. It cited dramatic break downs in corporate governance including to many financial firms acting recklessly, again, this was and always has been about greed. Even under the Clinton era of trying to make owning a home more affordable, no banks were ever dictated on who they could and couldn't give a mortgage too. This was all on the banks.

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                  #22.3 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:29 PM EDT

                  dirp, thanks for the information, amazing how so many are fooled about what really happened and how the financial industry wants to continue on this same path, and how the republican party is not only standing with them, fighting any regulation tooth and nail. What is it going to take for America to wake up.

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                  #22.4 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:38 PM EDT

                  The only way some of these bankers will wake up is if we have regulations which are enforced. When there is no regulation enforcement, you can't find crimes, no evidence is gathered. When there is no evidence gathered, you can't have any prosecutions. The bankers, underwriters and hedge fund operators who committed the fraud got away with it because the SEC, FDIC, and the FED let them and the CFTC was defanged.

                  If we do not learn our lesson and start to regulate our banks and investment houses, no one in the world will trust our financial markets. That is the real long term result of this, not the temporary depression and resulting government budget inbalance.

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                  #22.5 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 4:12 PM EDT
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                  In New Hampshire, GOP presidential candidates are gathering at yet another cattle call.

                  MOOOOOO...babies!!!

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                  Reply#23 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:58 PM EDT

                  Retired Military and Beverly.... Read your Constitution, read the writings of Thomas Jefferson.... better yet research World History. There is danger in big government that would have us dependent upon them! Find me a country that both created a socialist government and at the same time removed a debt so enormous that even if every citizen gave back their annual income it would not put a dent in the debt created by Obama alone! You won't find it! Increasing taxes won't help, promoting business might, but Obama, you, and your comrades here are strongly against capitalism. China and Russia are anxiously waiting for you and Obama to finish the job. But not me and others.... smear the independents, conservatives, and others that don't follow your line of reasoning but our problems are still there and mounting and Obama is incapable of solving them!

                    Reply#24 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:02 PM EDT

                    Completely ignoring your ad hominem attacks on anyone who disagrees with you as a socialist, using the term "comrades" to imply communism, and your ridiculous "against capitalism" claim, you have no clue what you're talking about.

                    The total proposed 2012 budget is $3.7T http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2011/02/2012-us-budget-3-7-trillion/ whereas total personal income in the US for 2010 was $12.5T http://bber.unm.edu/econ/us-tpi.htm and will be higher during the 2012 budget year. Taxable corporate income pushes the total tax base even higher.

                    In other words if every citizen gave back their annual income it would nearly pay off our entire national debt. Your thesis is bunk.

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                    Reply#25 - Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:49 PM EDT
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