The White House has just announced that President Obama will travel to Alabama tomorrow to inspect the damage caused by the tornadoes that hit the state yesterday.
As we suggested in First Thoughts earlier this morning, these kind of visits -- right after a disaster -- are tricky for presidents. On the one hand, there's the desire to visibly respond to tragedy and destruction. On the other hand, there's the desire of a president -- and his entourage -- not to get in the way of the clean-up.
The White House obviously decided to err on the side of getting in the way.


How DARE he!
If he didn't go the baggers & birthers would be screaming & now that he's going they'll b!tching that he's going there for a 'photo' op!
President Obama could walk on water, and this crowd would complain that he can't swim!
You can't satisfy the truly miserable...
He always goes where the cameras are. I hope Oprah holds up her show. Wouldn't want to miss the two big O's together.
What a failure the democrats have been for the past 5 years. In 2006 they said "elect us to fix everything". I can't wait until 2012 so we can finish getting rid of those useless progressive/liberals.
JH, yeah, add that to the 30+ years of continuous failure by the GOP, and you have the fubar we're in now.
Let's keep those affected by the devastation in our thoughts & prayers, and help out however we can!
Right on cue! ;o)
Obama is a committed Statist he believes as Government he should be EVERYWHERE controlling EVERYTHING
Including ALL your money AND THEN SOME
High gas prices? Tax the Oil Companies MORE! Supress Domestic drilling MORE! Print money and INFLATE the dollar MORE! -- Barack Obama
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Obama busy taxing the unborn isn't that the ultimate control THEY can't vote him out because they aren't born yet
Downright Pavlovian, isn't it Feisty?
So what's stopping those who're alive from voting him out, Madison? Is that why the Republicans are so vehemently anti-abortion: they don't have the numbers without counting embryos?
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL
If he didn't go the baggers & birthers would be screaming & now that he's going they'll b!tching that he's going there for a 'photo' op!
Did the racist birthers and rabid Right Wingers forget what George Bush did when New Orleans was suffering? George W. Bush and John McCain ate cake to celebrate McCain’s 69th birthday. At that very moment hurricane Katrina was bringing devastation to the gulf coast. Don't forget how he played his guitar as people suffered
http://www.ma@!$%#.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/mccainbushcake.jpg
http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/J/j/bush_guitar_neworleans.jpg
But this is the photo I'd love to see!
http://www.lancescurv.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/George-Bush-War-Criminal.jpg
President Obama could walk on water, and this crowd would complain that he can't swim!
You can't satisfy the truly miserable...
Well, Feisty when you live like those racist nutjobs in hell; there is no satisfaction.
Cygnus - The dems have controlled Congress for the majority of time for the past 70 years in this country. Could you please list the 30+ years you are talking about. The left is destroying the country right now and that is what we should be worried with. They are certainly the party of NO right now. And our President is more concerned about keeping his job than helping the country. He is a failure at his job and needs to be replaced. You lefties need to find a viable candiddate for 2012.
Today's young hard workers recognize more and more that Obama's Wealth Redistribution Scheme hurts them the MOST:
"If you can't afford today's high gas prices it is your fault for not buying a hybrid" is Obama's answer to hard working citizens who cannot afford gas to get to work due to Obama doing EVERYTHING in his power to SKYROCKET gas prices (stop domestic drilling, EPA, printing money and devaluing the US dollar in international commodities markets, giving loans to Brazil for offshore drilling while PROHIBITING US offshore drilling)
You have a source for that quote, yes?
Tricky for Presidents?
Seems it is tricky for the states too? Especially if you don't vote the right way.
IBD has an article about Messing With Texas, the Chicago Way........
Seems Texas has had wildfires that have consumed over a million acres and hundreds of homes. The Governor asked for help fighting fires - should have been a no brainer - but nope, not a word.
Texas can burn as far as Obama is concerned. Still miffed at that Texas reporter? Still hate Perry? Or just hate all the conservatives in Texas that have Obama figured out? Anyway, the hail storms, thunderstorms and tornados seem to put the fires down. (Imagine returning to your burned home with nothing left but your car/pick-up only to have it destroyed by hail.)
Louisiana knows the feeling, Arizona too. Wisconsin got some Chicago style treatment. Does Obama not know where the federal governments money comes from? Does he actually think it is his to play his political games with - at the citizens expense who gave the money to Washington?
This is the behavior of petulant little punk ........ way beneath the Office of the President of the United States.
Oh well what's new with this guy.
If Texas can't handle the fires they shouldn't talk about secession.
Helping Texas fight the fires is going to cost money...so I guess if the Feds do step in in Texas we'll hear you bitch about the cost, right?
@Madison:
I started working when I was 17 - when gas still averaged between .97¢ and $1.20, depending on the time of the year. I promised myself that I would only spend $20 a week on fuel, something that I abide by to this day regardless of the continuing calamity at the pump. I changed circumstances in my life to be closer to my job so my commute wouldn't eat up fuel. I walk and bike to stores in my neighborhood when I require groceries. I take the bus or, location permitting, the light rail system to move around the city. Failing that, I carpool with friends.
Point is, rather than sit around and believe that the ability to burn through gasoline like a fat chick tears through a Chinese buffet is a God-given inalienable American right, I took some initiative in the face of changing circumstances so I could continue to hold myself to my budget and afford the lifestyle I've grown accustomed to. Am I limited by prices approaching $4/gal? Of course. I do less leisurely driving now than back in January and one or two places I might've gone in the span of a given week I may not go to - but I am not hampered or handicapped because I do not allow a potential strain on my finances to get to a point where they cause issue.
Point is, stop being such a whiner.
Bob-180
04/20/2011: The team of federal firefighters and officials from several U.S. agencies — the second one to help with a Texas fire this month — joined local personnel Wednesday, this time to help fight a North Texas blaze that has burned nearly 150,000 acres in the Possum Kingdom Lake area, about 70 miles west of Fort Worth, and joined with several blazes in two other counties.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42677600/ns/weather/
Da Void,
Texas has the ninth/tenth biggest economy in the world. Obama needs Texas' economy more than Texas needs Obama's.
Dennis,
Read the article if you want.
George W. Bush waited a VERY long time before going to New Orleans after Katrina. And when he finally put away his guitar, brushed the dirt and leaves off his hands and knees after falling off his mountain bike, and ignored all the reports of the still-unfinished FEMA projects in Florida from the previous year's hurricanes, he took a stupid grinning pose next to Mike Brown. And uttered those famous words:
The sheer magnitude of the incompetence of the entire Bush Administration still boggles the mind.
President Obama by contrast has been a strong and effective leader, vigorous yet mild-mannered, in dealing with some of the worst crises this nation has faced since World War II. Now he demonstrates his understanding of his priorities and by visiting the devastated South makes certain his entire Administration knows what's important, too.
OUR President is in fact doing a fine job.
The ultra-right, of course, HATES that. They WANT "failure," despite how that equates to harm for the nation. What a bunch of shamless, arrogant pigs.
“If you’re complaining about the price of gas, and you’re only getting 8 miles to the gallon… you may wanna think about a trade-in”
There's your quote.
So what does he mean by this? It shouldn't matter if you drive a car that gets 30mpg, it's too freaking high and he's partly to blame-right? Remember you bitched a few years ago.
Speaking as a native Texan and long-time resident, I am damned proud to live in one of the few states in the nation that spontaneously sets itself ablaze every summer. It's @!$%#ing exciting, the intervention of federal firefighters notwithstanding.
Dragon -
Forever burned - pun intended - in my memory is the day I first reported on the job as editor of the Pomona, California, daily newspaper. I had to drive a freeway that was surrounded on all sides by wildfires. It was horrific. In those years long ago - during the breaking Watergate scandal - we covered so many terrible fires all over Southern California. And they also happen nearly every Summer, too.
Sorry, buddy, but I never found them exciting. Even though from a few years as a schoolboy in a Dallas suburb I came to utterly dislike Texas, I still feel sorry for them enduring these flames now. Although it's somewhat deliciously ironic that the same state that again wants to secede from the Union relies on our national resources to battle the flames.
Glad to see Madison and Obama Lies are still off their meds. It helps to hear these guys as it reminds us how close we truly are to an idiocracy. The more you guys talk, the closer we are to four more years of progress under President Obama.
gpotts-1106111 - Madison seems especially inspired today. Our best-known FR/FT screech owl usualloy does a one-line swoop and poop and flies off to other 'Vine blogs to sprinkle her special brand of stinking crap.
She never actually has anything solid to say. It's possible she's actually a paid troll.
TO: JH-479998 who wrote:
“He always goes where the cameras are… I can't wait until 2012 so we can finish getting rid of those useless progressive/liberals…”
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Hum, you wouldn’t think that the cameras are following the POTUS, you think that he is following the cameras?
Now who exactly are you calling “we”? Is that you and your evil twin?
As far as I can see, all Republicans have to compete with is their hate speech, because they certainly haven’t done anything for this country. If Republicans aren’t robbing the country then they’re filling the country full of hate.
We don’t want no stinking “fuzzy number” Republicans back.
American Girl-724855
TO: JH-479998 who wrote:
"He always goes where the cameras are… I can't wait until 2012 so we can finish getting rid of those useless progressive/liberals…"
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Hum, you wouldn't think that the cameras are following the POTUS, you think that he is following the cameras?
As far as I can see, all Republicans have to compete with is their hate speech, because they certainly haven't done anything for this country. If Republicans aren't robbing the country then they're filling the country full of hate.
Right on American Girl
These people are crazy. All they do is lie.
Anyone who believes the nut job Birther Orly Taitz who laughed like a hyena when Lawrence O'Donnell kicked her off air has to be crazy.
Anybody of that ilk is crazy.
Hi Feisty,
You are so right, that these bagger and birther a$$h@les will bitch no matter what the President does.
What a total waste of my president's time into the lion's den where people want to shoot him for being black and could care less about anything he tries to fund for their sake because their politicians don't care enough to pay living wages and collect enough taxes to take care of their own citizens. What a total waste of President Obama's time and what danger he is walking into to appease citizens who consider him nothing but a rabit dog who needs to be put down. I'll pray for him while he is down in the lion's den.
Bravo Mr. President, you made a good decision to rush to Alabama. Your fellow Americans need to see their leader to give them some hope. You just won a few points with me on this...Dont' stop because you have a lot of catchup to do...
John: in light of your harrowing (and decidedly brave!) experience reporting on fires out in CA, do forgive my crass comments meant mostly to sabotage the asinine back-and-forth taking place earlier in the thread about whether or not federal money and personnel should be used to aid a state people unfairly regard as chomping at the bit to exit the union.
Not that Texans don't have pride, of course, but anyone here or elsewhere who takes the secessionist comments from Gov. Perry as anything other than a tongue-in-cheek reference to our state's overinflated ego regarding it's heritage should probably lighten up.
Madison from NY, I will personally guarantee you that the people affected by the tornadoes are going to want all the big government they can get. They are going to need state money, federal money, food stamps, medicare, today nobody in Birmingham is wishing the government was smaller and would just stay out of their lives. Is Corporate America coming to their rescue, how about Rush Limbaugh, the Koch brothers, the only hope these people have is government, government programs, government employees, and the kindness of strangers. Lets see if any oil company donates a couple hundred thousand gallons of gas. Lets see what the benevolent corporations trickle down to these people who are wiped out.
Ana Banana I tend to agree with a lot of what you said, But the president has to be better and braver than that and this young man we elected president certainly is. I watch all this birther crap and it is disgusting, it is embarrassing, but I think this Obama he is like the Jackie Robinson of politics, they can't really get to him, he continues to be calm and cool in the face of bigotry and unfairness, at least in public. I think it drives them crazy, that he is the epitome of what they preach but don't practice. He is a bi-racial kid who came from nothing, worked hard, was responsible, was ambitious, got a law degree, has a wife and family (just one wife and one family) got elected to the state senate, and elected president of the US. It does not get any better than that. He certainly did not get to where he is because his daddy made a few calls and pulled a few strings. He is what should be possible in this country, it is possible, he did it, and as much as they might wish they could, they can never take that away. He is doing what he should. It is a good example, we all have to learn to treat each other with fairness and honesty, even people who we don't like, even people who don't like us. We all deserve that, and owe that to each other, to treat others with fairness and honesty. He handles himself and these idiots well because he really is a well educated, well mannered, decent man. It would not be very presidential but when he released the document I wished they would have played MC Hammer's "You Can't Touch This". That's what I imagine he hums to himself when dealing with certain republicans.
As a percentage of Debt to GDP and Cost per Taxpayer, Texas is in bad or worse shape:
TX - 22.66% -
CA - 18.79% -
fgump great post, i completely agree.
My thoughts and prayers to those in the south affected by the tornadoes, storms and the resulting devastation and loss of life. My deepest condolences to those that have lost family members, friends, and loved ones.
People are suffering and mourning hundreds of deaths, yet the 1st post on this article is from some despicable troll spewing political rhetoric. Sad.
Forrest, right on target. I'll add that as someone who lives far outside the affected area I'm happy to see my tax dollars go to help them rebuild. We're Americans, that's what we do.
Tornado's must have taken out a favorite golf course of his and he wants to inspect first hand. Of course, this had to wait until he got back from his taxpayer paid visit on Oprah...
Don't forget the fund raising trip to New York City!
if Obama is so detestable as for you to call him a liar why not jsut leave the country (if you are ven a citizen)?
Why not move to Russia and start saying Putin Lies and see how far that gets you.
Or you can say or Kim Jong Il Lies (which in his case that is the truth), and see how long you it takes befoer you a whisked away into a lovely prison never to be seen again.
You should be thankful you are an american citizen and can spew such nonsense.
Your comment is disgusting - hundreds of people are dead and a huge swath of the southeast is devastated, but all you can do is make jokes. Why don't you post your garbage on FOX where you might get a more appreciative audience?
Go USA-851295
Don't forget the fund raising trip to New York City!
Conservatives outspent liberals 2-1 in elections; don't forget
http://images.usatoday.com/news/graphics/2010/2010-11-04-money14/money14.jpg
The leader of one of the leading GOP organizations said on Wednesday that it plans to play a big role in 2012.
What group would that be of the Kochoctopus?
I'll bet it;s a Look like a Rove(er) group as in Karl Rove's
Go USA-851295
Don't forget the fund raising trip to New York City!
The leader of one of the leading GOP organizations said on Wednesday that it plans to play a big role in 2012.
What group would that be of the Kochoctopus?
I'll bet it looks like a Rove(er) group as in Karl Rove.
Karl Rove-Linked Conservative Group, American Crossroads, Adapts to New Campaign Finance Landscape
American Crossroads, which some have dubbed the "shadow Republican National Committee," is at the vanguard of political entities that are taking advantage of the new campaign finance landscape in the wake of January's Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission ruling that lifted restrictions on corporate cash in political advertisements.
American Crossroads also operates a 501(c)4 nonprofit called Crossroads GPS, which is not required to disclose information about its funders.
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2010/08/karl-rove-linked-conservative-group.html
So why shouldn't the President fund raise?
Those of us who don't support Obama don't have to leave the country. We will just continue to work to see that someone else is elected. Why ask people to leave the country? I thought liberals were inclusive. Or do you only include those who think the way you do?
Good point Go USA.
Keeth, you asked him to leave then say he's lucky that he's an American citizen? Let's say you're the person to judge who says what? What have/had you done to make this country great?
You right wing idiots show your true colors when you make those silly ass comments on the heels of a disaster like this. Let me guess, you want to protest Obama spending tax payer money to help those poor people in the south.
Did you two bitch and moan when Republicans Presidents traveled?
I did. What a waste of time and money.
"White House obviously decided to err on the side of getting in the way"
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White House ALSO "erring on the side of getting in the way" of domestic OIL drilling causing prices at the pump to SKYROCKET
Again: I thought paranoid speculators were responsible for that, much as it was during the last major price spike.
"High Obamaprices Caused by Speculators?" Those mysterous speculators. Are they the same speculators who stopped Obama from releasing his birth certificate for 2 1/2 years? Those speculators?
It was the same Speculators that sent gas to $4.11 in September 2008, oh wait, that was George Bush's fault as was the rise of gas from $1.83 in 2000 just before he took office. Or was it Speculators?
I remember the left screaming that high gas prices at the ass-end of 2008 were the fault of President Bush. We're faced with the same situation now, but Bush isn't in office, though the right's present mantra is that this is the fault of President Obama.
It doesn't matter to me one way or the other if the lunatics pitching the conspiracy theories are clad in blue or red - what matters to me is that it's STILL lunacy and I remain mesmerized someone your age, Madison, can be as stupid as you are.
They do say the mind is the first thing to go, tho'.
What you are forgetting Exodite Dragon, is that Bush saw the speculators, and raised them increased production. They then folded.
That increased production reached its peak in May of 2010- and has been declining since. This year alone, domestic production is down 13%- thirty thousand barrels a day- and is due to decline an additional 120,000 barrels a day next year. In other words, gas prices have not nearly reached their peak.
Add to that loss of domestic production the unrest in the Middle East. One is asked what Obama could have done about it- one has the answer.
Very early last year, Obama was warned by Sarcozy, the U.N., and his own advisors, that war and weather had combined to create severe food shortages in Africa and the Middle East. Our Agriculture department is uniquely equipped to deal with such circumstances, and should have taken the initiative to have farmers increase both wheat and consumable corn production. (the corn grown for ethanol is not fit for human consumption. I am ignoring, here, the moral question of growing food stocks to burn rather than for consumption in a world where there is starvation).
Had Obama taken this course, food prices in the Middle East would NOT have spiked, a Tunisian fruit seller would not have set himself aflame in protest
Sorry- cut myself off
Aflame in protest over high food prices, a riot then would not have erupted, thereby igniting the turmoil in the Middle East that threatens not just the world oil supply, but a third world war.
To say nothing of his mishandling of the Libyan crisis. Libya, by the way, sold much of its oil to Europe, then Asia, and virtually none here; however, with that source all but dried up, those countries are buying the or oil from a reduced supply- driving up prices.
So, to summarize: during the Bush administration, speculators decided that the world supply of oil would be limited in the short term- Bush announced a policy of increased domestic production, and the price fell as speculators were faced with an increase of supply which caused them to take severe losses.
Obama is facing a slew of speculators who see a decreased oil supply, but took no steps to avert the Middle East turmoil that added to this supply shortage, and contributed to the shortage by decreasing domestic supply with plans to accelerate that decrease next year.
There are steps he can take, and he had better do it soon, if he wants a prayer of re election. Inflation for fuel only is at 19.5% on the year as of March 31.
That oil production dropped from 2001 to 2008 before it increased in 2009.
http://climateprogress.org/2011/03/09/drill-baby-drill-fails-oil-prices-soar-production-obama-barbour-blame/
personally I wish gas would go over 5 and maybe the dumbasses in this country would see the advantages of alternative energy. Give a reduced price to public transportation so those with limited funds can make it to work.
They should make gas pumps and fuel tanks align based on fuel consumption....hummers pay 8, prius pay 2
"I wish gas would go over 5 and maybe the dumbasses in this country would see the advantages of alternative energy"
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Is that you Barack?
Increase production?
Which one of you wants an oil well in their front yard? Ready to deal with the spill when something goes wrong?
What, no oil in your area? Well, the oil companies will just frack the ground to see if they can force some out. You won't mind a little oil in your drinking water, will you?
Still nothing? Oh, well, they'll try next door. You'll have to clean up the mess the drillers leave by yourself.
Fielden, I am pretty certain there is no oil in my garden, but. . .
I have two houses- one in new jersey, near the shore, one in Key West- it's an island, so do the math- and I have NO PROBLEM, zilch, zip, nada, with drilling in either area.
A good thing, actually, since the Cubans are allowing drilling pretty close to my second home.
Near my first home, though, there is a pretty big group out there protesting a windmill off the shore.
They say it hurts the birdies. Or the fishes, or some such nonsense. It's loud, and ugly, and that is the real problem- but they are blaming it on the birdies and the fishes.
I can see where you're coming from with your argument, Joe, but I must respectfully disagree. I do not feel it is a President's responsibility to insert America into every foreign crisis that transpires. To that end, whatever effect Libya may or may not be having on global oil prices and supply, I cannot fault Obama for it. Is it not fair to say that the success of the Tunisian revolt served as the catalyst for what took place in Egypt? Is it not fair to say that Mubarak's overthrow is what sparked the rebellion in Libya? Food prices over the course of one season do not compare to decades of poor leadership by political and military strongmen, and it's a farther stretch to lay the blame at Obama's feet.
Beyond that, is it really fair or logical to say that the market predicted the Middle Eastern unrest and bolstered fuel prices as a political response? I don't know if that's what you meant to imply with your argument, but that's what it sounds like, to me, and that's not a good application of Occam's Razor. Is it not simpler and more likely that the market merely siezes on whatever crisis of the hour is at hand to turn another buck?
As to his chances at re-election, well. I think HCR looming on the horizon is more of a threat to him staying for another four years than the surge at the pump, not that higher gas and food prices, whatever their cause, will help matters for him or any other Democrats up for re-election.
Don't worry about getting cut-off: it doesn't seem to matter what browser I use to navigate FR. This blog chugs like a rusty hamster wheel.
Sorry if I was unclear, E.D.
Yes, the commodities market, ( and that is all the speculators are part of- which is why the gold standard is such a bad idea- but, I digress), seizes on the information of the day, and predicts the future.
Increasing wheat and corn production would have gone a long way toward heading off the turmoil in the Middle East. It was, in fact, the one variable that changed that instigated the turmoil. I have no problem at all with giving food to starving people, no matter their political system- which is why I congratulated CARTER for his grain shipments to the Soviet Union long after I had lost faith in his abilities as president. I simply have an issue with the exploitation of the innocent.
In any event, that horse has left the stable. What we need now is increased domestic production, the promise of which will immediately bring down the price per barrel.
In 2008, speculators were looking at two presidential candidates who favored Cap and Trade, and made a bet that there would be shortages. Bush announced increased domestic production, and the price per barrel fell- leaving them with severe losses.
Obama needs to do the same. Raising taxes on the oil industry will do no more than raise prices again for the co Sumer- and you cannot run a car with a windmill on the hood,(however cool it might look)..
Anyway, sorry if I was unclear. Come around more often. I miss seeing you on the boards!
Maybe he should do what Bush did after Katrina and ignore if for a few days and make believe it didn't happen. New Orleans is STILL not rebuilt. These people in Alabama need supplies and food and clothes and shelter and the basics for living. They need to bury their dead and come to grips with the grief of losing everything they owned. Let the President see for himself what they need and get FEMA and other agencies out there to do their jobs, Let him console them. Some of you folks need to have your conscience and morals checked. Seems like you don't have either.
Actually, Obama has ignored the south for weeks. Bush waited 24 hours and leftists pilloried the man. Nothign about the annointed one's absence in the liberal media.
If New Orleans isn't rebuilt, it isn't for the lack of funds. As far as Obama seeing what is needed, I don't think he could look at an empty refrigerator and know what was needed.
Wow, the South was devastated weeks ago by tornadoes and even the MSM is just finding out about it today!
Obama Lies
Bush waited 24 hours and leftists pilloried the man.
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FEMA did not arrive with supplies for days. People were left hungry and without shelter. The football stadium was filled to capacity and damaged by Katrina. Bush did a flyover at the request of his aids for the photo op. No BS...fact!!!!
Exactly. The only people who seem to matter are those who can be counted on to vote democrat.
Alabama is a RED state last I checked.
I know that Alabama is a red state. My point, though not well made, was that he has ignored a lot of devestation in the south while he traveled hither, thither and yon to appear on Oprah, fund raise for re-election, etc.
He can't and doesn't go everywhere everytime there is a natural disaster. He simply can't. He does go to the places where the devastation and loss of life is so great that his presence as protector of the common good, as prescribed in the Constition, mandates he go. What does Oprah or anything else have to do with surveying the devastation. This day is the FIRST day he could go without getting in the way of first responders efforts and he is being criticized for it. Unreal.
Protector of the common good? Really? St. Louis was devestated last week - not a peep out the president. North Carolina was devestated last week - not a peep out of the president. Nashville flooded over a year ago due to the federal government's (Army Corps of Engineers) mistake - not a peep out the president.
I, and others, mention Oprah because he chose to appear on Oprah on the same day that he said it was time to end the silliness. Appearing on Oprah seems to be quite silly.
There are over 200 dead in Alabama. Mercifully, the devastation you mentioned combined was not nearly as great as this one event. FYI...FEMA and other federal agencies are and have been in all these places doing what is necessary to rebuild. They were declared Federal Disaster areas and qualify for low iinterest loans, housing, shelter etc. Just cause the President didn't say anything about them....still not sure if that's true...our people are being cared for.
Could you guys be any less informed???? Obama spoke of weather situation three days ago... The biggest part of the damage was done yesterday....YOU GUYS TRULY REPRESENT THE DUMBING OF AMERICA
Oh, I see, Ira. People have to die in order for this president to give them the attention? He should have at least done something, said something about all the other devastation around our country.
I get it...
The president can't be everywhere, states have their own representatives, maybe after republican politicians from the south treated the president of the USA like dirt they feel funny about asking for his help, but they will.
Matter of fact they will be asking him to lay a little socialism on them, please, and right now
Why didn't he go to Missouri? North Carolina? Tennessee? How about the flooding of Nashville? I think he is only going so that he can distract people from the silliness of being on Oprah. This president is a disgrace.
As for those affected by all the storms across this country, I pray that you will be okay.
Agree with you, but don't leave out having to fly to New York City to raise money for his $1 billion plus campaign fund, which I guess was more important than going on TV to comment on the destruction down south.
Birth certificate, Alabama AND Oprah all in one week?
Saved the banks from failing which would have caused a global economic crisis and a depression in this country that would have made the Great Depression of the 30's look like a mid recession. Saved the auto industry, passed HCR so that the poorest of the poor can see a doctor when ill, especially children and appeared on Oprah. He did all this in a little over 2 years. Tell me what Bush did in 8 full years?
Actually, TARP - the bank bailout - was signed by President Bush. So, since you consider this a positive thing, I will offer it up as the good that Bush did.
Taking over GM with Taxpayer Money, passing Obamacare and appearing on Oprah makes Obama a great president?
The money used to bailout GM was TARP money, created by George Bush. Why don't you give George and the Republicans credit for the Medicare Prescription Drug Plan, all deficit spending, brought to you by fiscal conservatives.
maybe part of the budget deficit was also 2 off the book wars! Guess Bush couldn't figure out in all his time off in Texas how to fix that problem. Oh yea - let the next president worry about.
Obama is running three wars now what did he fix?
Take it easy Madison, calm down, Obama is going to be president for six more years, all this stress is liable to affect your health and cause you to need some Obamacare.
Go USA-851295
If New Orleans isn't rebuilt, it isn't for the lack of funds..
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Really, then why didn't Bush request ot allocate funds to rebuild it? He was the President. right.
Ira, get your head out of your rear end. The federal government can not declare an emergency in a state unless asked by the governor. If you check your facts the government was ready to go into New Orleans but was stymied the the democratic governor of LA, who took days before asking for federal help, even after Bush asked her to request help.
A state of emergency was decared and FEMA did not arrive for 3 full days. The Head of FEMA was fired by BUSH over this debacle. My head is just where it's supposed to be.
And look what they did with all that money to rebuild! They managed to f*up the system and take advantage of us suckers.
They were warned well in advance to leave. They chose to stay. That is not Bush's fault. He provided what was needed...the Mayor was the screw up.
VDO:
You still have no clue what took place before, during, and after Hurricaine Katrina, do you...
...liar...birther...bigot...did I miss anything?
Mickey, and you do, because you were there, NOT. Further I am willing to bet that you believe 9/11 was planned and carried out by the Bush Administration, just like Michael Moore and the other "truthers" like him.
American's of every race and creed were affected by this storm. The President should go survey the devastation.
You are all disgraces....you should be complaining about the HUGE WASTE OF TAX PAYER EXPENSE it takes for a president to travel....especially with jetfuel skyrocketing....he should legislate from Washington and save the gas!
Yep...you made it right to the top of the dumbest remarks posted here and there are a pile of them.
Thought i might as well add to the discussion....who appointed you overlord of what is relevant Ira?
Ira Lapin....are any of them made by DEMS or LIBBERS?
yep.
I wonder if obama will take in another racist sermon while he's down there...
This is without question the right move. See what needs to be done and be engaged. You can call it a photo op if you want, but state and local resources are not going to be equipped to deal with this sort of devastation. You will not hear me criticize the President on his decision to go to Alabama.
As for the comment above as to why not the other states...I want to try to put this in perspective...this is a tornado outbreak of historic proportions, quite possibly eclipsing the Super Outbreak of 1974 in terms of number of tornadoes and loss of life. Think about that for a minute...in 1974, you had little to no warning, so catastrophes were more deadly. Here, despite up to 30 minutes of warning, people were still killed. Heck, people were even killed in their basements...supposedly the safest place to be...that's how strong and violent this system was. The large majority of deaths and destruction took place in the state of Alabama. Yes, Missouri, the Carolinas, Mississippi, Georgia, Arkansas, and even Virginia suffered damage, but nowhere near the scale seen in Alabama.
I mentioned it on the other thread and I'll mention it here...I've been in a disaster area once when people lost everything in a matter of minutes. You cannot imagine how awful it is to see that. The dazed and stunned looks and feelings of helplessness. Everyone affected by this will continue to be in my thoughts and prayers.
see what needs to be done and be engaged.....like the bp oil spill.
what a leader...
Well said again, Grimey, thank you. Thoughts and prayers to all those impacted by these storms.
Grimey -
Thank you for being a voice of reason in the midst of a page full of partisan finger-pointing, absurd accusations, and almost surreal non-sequiturs, none of which do the slightest thing to better the situation in Alabama. The people there don't need this garbage, they need our donations to the Red Cross, they need the government to step in and facilitate the flow of disaster relief, and they need what's left of their communities to come together to support each other and try to rebuild their lives. If my house was destroyed and my neighbor's was left standing and they offered shelter, I wouldn't even think of asking how they voted last time before accepting - and vice versa.
The President - any President, as well as Governors and other officials - indeed walk a fine line in these situations. Damned if you do show up and damned if you don't. In the end, though, that's pretty irrelevant as long as people get the help they need.
The pictures I've seen so far today have been devastating. If our old friend CA in Tuscaloosa is by any chance still reading here, I hope you and all your loved ones are safe and well.
Most of the comments here are immoral and demonstrate a complete lack of compassion. What thje President is doing is what a leader does. Unlike Bush, who flew over New Orleans and congratulaed the FEMA chief with a "Good job, Brownie" when Brownie was a guy who didn't know his ass from his elbow. Obama was on the Gulf Coast beaches and he'll see the absolute Alabama destruction. And I think there's a difference between the tornado sites. These tornado's killed close to 200 people and devasdtated cities. Anyone who sees no difference between the others is a moral dwarf. As for the other stuff about Obama, most of you don't realize that big business has no interest in the American economy, just interest in as high a profit that they can show on their books. In fact, there's no doubt in my mind that you'd act differently if Obama was white rather than bi-racial.
Good grief...and you're allowed to vote??
Too bad Obama doesn't take the Silent Cal approach.
Coolidge did not believe that personally visiting the region after the floods [of 1927] would accomplish anything, but would be seen only as political grandstanding.
How about his news conference yesterday....this guy just makes a laughingstock out of the office each and every day. Anybody happen to see the front page of the london examiner this morning. The whole world thinks we're idiots for electing him.
Rob -
Not only did I not see the front page of the London Examiner this morning, I've googled it and can't even find any mention of any such newspaper even existing among the 25 or 30 other daily newspapers that do publish in England. Care to provide a link to support your claim?
ROB, h ow about when your hero Bush made jokes at a dinner party about not being able to find 'weapons of mass destruction.??? Bet the parents of all the kids that have died over there thought that was a real laugher.
i am always amazed at the ignorance of those who think the price of gas would go down even if we could drill and pump every last drop of oil we have. once again for the cheap seats--" WE DON'T GET TO KEEP THE OIL WE PRODUCE-- IT GOES INTO THE WORLD MARKET POOL"
i am always amazed at the ignorance of those who think the price of gas would not go down if we could drill and pump every last drop of oil we have. once again for the cheap seats--" WHEN WE PUT OIL IN THE WORLD MARKET POOL PRICE GOES DOWN AS SUPPLY GOES UP"
No, Badchess, the oil producers just sell it at the highest possible price they can get. They create a false shortage in oil, often by holding it in tankers offshore, (like Goldman Sachs has done Repeatedly,) drive the price up, and then sell as much as they can at the inflated prices. has happened time and time again!
b honest - your right....and when the country has a president that everyone knows is a joke it's much easier for them to get away with it.
Sure he can take time out of his busy week of endless campaigning to visit Alabama? Maybe he could double-duty the trip and campaign while he's there too?! Gotta get out the vote ya know.
Looks like he should be raising $1 billion to help his own country instead of his own campaign, don't you think? Anyone who contributes to a politician's campaign during these tough economic times rather than help your fellow countrymen deserves to have their head examined.
Government isn't here to help you - cuz their broke.
What? Really? The Potus got off the Golf cart to make the trip? last minute support.
Notice how every liberal poster brings up his race after yesterday? I think the next election WILL be the most racist ever...thanks to the Libs.
I don't care what color the man is...he's a horrible president. Period.
You're right!! He could be a pink or purple man..doesn't change the fact that he was merely a community organizer and had never run anything in his entire life. Only thing he can do....is campaign....that's proven..he has never stopped. I for one can't wait to see him UN-SEATED...and sent back to Chicago...maybe he can co-host with Oprah on her own network.
I felt the same way about George Bush, he was a horrible president, period. He did manage to kill more Americans than Osama. Where is Osama? Must be hiding with those pesky WMD's.
The number of Americans who have died in Afghanistan has tripled under Obama. Are you just as upset?
Best thing Obama could do....IS STAY AWAY. Who needs the campaigner in chief in this time of devastation. Certainly NOT the people in the southland. What they need is our help and our donations. Obama is only going down there for a photo op. It's gross and sickening. I'd like to see Obama spend 1 total 40 hours a week...in DC...actually working. He has NOT done that as of yet...in over 2.5 years. Why would I expect him to start now.
I am pleased that President Obama is going to Alabama. This is not about politics; this is showing compassion for the people who live there, the people who lost everything including family members and friends. Frank "Grimey" Grimes, a republican, posted a thoughtful and compassionate comment on the Thoughts thread this morning. He also said he hoped our President would go to Alabama because it would mean a great deal to the people there. Yes, it will because at times like these, it is just important to be there and the "R" or "D" beside the president's name is meaningless.
Just as was predicted earlier, the right now attacks with nasty remarks, comments mentioning the "photo op", for the cameras, etc. I read these comments and wonder why so many conservatives on this board express nothing for the people devastated by these horrendous storms but can spew such hate and contempt for our President while thousands of fellow Americans suffer the pain of losing everything of losing family and friends. This is not about our President, this is about the people in the South and Alabama suffered the brunt of this storm. I am not surprised by such petty posts but it is sad.
Thank you President Obama! That is why you are great!
Soooo Feisty......when ya coming down to Birmingham to pitch in?
Alabama is my home state and my family there was effected . . . nice to know that the President has a little time to comfort those so in need of encouragement.
*HUGS* to you & your family Nash!
If you need anything, you know how to find me! ;o)
Thanks Feisty . . . means a lot.
Nash...
I hope that everyone in your family is at the very least safe and healthy!! Please let them know they've got a lot of people thinking of them!
Nashville, I hope your family, friends and loved ones are all safe.
Will keep you and your family in my prayers, Nash. Hope all are safe.
I hope you and your family and friends are safe and stay safe and healthy during the up coming weeks!
Thank you all so much for your well wishes and support . . . means more than you know . . . everyone in my family is alive . . . but some are now homeless . . . but of course, that is replaceable!
I won't be around tomorrow or Monday, so I hope to find you all safe and sound on Tuesday. :o)
Nash, wishing you and your family all the best. We are thinking of you.
No matter what I thought of Bush as the President, he was still my President and I would never have debased him in the manner that many of you have done here.
Skin color may not matter to many of you, it is more that he has a "D" next to his name. If it was a "R" you would never have said any of this.
If you are going to complain about our President do so in constructive manner and quit mud-slinging. If you feel you have legitimate concerns with positive ideas, then I am sure anyone in our Government would love to hear from you!
Act like grown-ups!
CA Girl - unfortunataly all those negative posters here have only 1 thought in mind and that is to see Pres. Obama fail....Even McConnell and Boehner from day 1 have said they want to see the President fail..and boy have they done everything possible. As some other posters here have said - no matter what Pres Obama does - it isn't good enough.
I agree with you, California Girl----the failure of the right to give the President the respect due to his office continues to astound me. And to anyone who says that the left said terrible things about President Bush, I didn't agree with that either. The President deserves a certain amount of respect and it is not given to President Obama.
I am also sticking up for the President.
He is not Anti-American, he is just Un-American.
I will admit I am not a Obama fan, but all politics set aside... I am glad to see him acting as leader and going not only to see but find out how to help the people hurt in the area.