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Subscribe to RSSThe White House this morning released President Obama's so-called "long-form" birth certificate. It shows he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, on Aug. 4, 1961 at 7:24 pm. It is signed by his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, the attending doctor, and registrar.
An image of President Obama's longer-form birth certificate released today by the White House.
(Here's a copy of the long-form birth certificate.)
During the campaign, Obama released a shorter version, a "Certification of Live Birth," which serves as the official document released by the state of Hawaii and recognized by the federal government. It's the document Hawaiians, for example, would use to get a passport.
This conspiracy theory has been debunked by several news organizations, including NBC News, but it has gained new life as Donald Trump, considering a Republican bid for president, has essentially campaigned on the issue.
This morning at a news conference, Trump took credit for the release of the document.
"Today I'm very proud of myself, because I've accomplished something that no one else has been able to accomplish," Trump said in New Hampshire, adding, "Our president has finally released a birth certificate. I want to look at it, but I hope it's true. ... But he should have done it a long time ago. ... But I am really honored to have played such a big role in hopefully, hopefully, getting rid of this issue."
But he went further, saying that the document has to be verified.
"I am really proud, I am really honored," Trump said, adding, "So I feel like I've accomplished something really, really important. ... I'm taking great credit."
This issue has been popular with a fringe portion of the conservative base, but recent polling showed that two-thirds of Republicans said either the president wasn't born in the United States or aren't sure.
In a CBS/New York Times poll released Thursday, 45% of Republicans said they believe Obama was born outside the U.S., while 22% said they didn't know, and just 33% said he was born in the country.
A majority of all Americans, however, believe the president was born in the country. 57% said he was, 25% said they believe he wasn't. 18% said they weren't sure.
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I thinks Trump may be right. I saw the date on the certificate, and it looks like it says 1961. I was around then, and I sure don't remember a little kid named Barak Obama!
The White House has just released the long form of OUR PRESIDENTS birth certificate. Now lets see what the "birthers" have to say on this. Good Bye Mr. Trump and the rest of your tea party my President just TRUMPED your A$$.
Navy -
Unfortunately, we already know exactly what they're going to say. I already saw a comment posted on another blog that said "They killed Kennedy, they can forge a birth certificate". For the true birthers, the conspiracy is just beginning, and they'll never be convinced. Never.
DBO- you and I should partake in a little sing and dance, since I believe it was last week that you predicted exactly this- and I agreed with you.
When my son was a truly bratty 13 year old, he came up with an obnoxious little song for just such occasions. Seems appropriate here
I told you so!
I told you so!
I tried to warn you,
But you would not listen!
I told you so,
Next time, you'll know!
When I try to warn you,
You really should listen!
It took six months to get the kid to knock that off- still, it is catchy.
I hope that America's so-called MAINSTREAM MEDIA is as Proud as Donald Trump seems to be,now that they've succeeded in Diminishing the Office of The President of the United States of America!
Good Job!
drive-by-observer
I thinks Trump may be right.
The "Chump" is a loser and he just lost big time.
I'm so glad the Prez showed his birth certificate. Maybe it can be laid to rest and we get on with the real serious business of America
Now, I want Trump to show me what's under his hair!!!
I don't remember him either, but I remember a kid name Donald that had this crazy hairstyle, it had four parts that went in all compass directions, we used to call the Trumpadour.
Our President is speaking on MSNBC (he interrupted Trumps rantings - too cool) and he is reminding the people that this information has been out in the public domain for a long time. In my opinion this is just a stall tactic to divert the attention of the American people away from the real issues of Jobs, Economy, Education etc. They GOP/TP is trying to divert our attention away from some of the DRACONIAN laws they are proposing like in Florida and Kansas and 20 other GOP/TP controlled States
These birther nit wits could watch a video tape of his live birth in a Hawaiian hospital and still NOT believe it!
As for how low will Trump go - there is no depth to which he will not dive when it comes to ridiculous!
Personally - I don't agree with the President releasing it - the train to Beckistan was gaining momentum!
Oh my gosh, no jo has a kid that is more annoying than she is.
And Massachusetts, Navy. Don't forget Massachusetts.
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/articles/2011/04/27/house_votes_to_limit_bargaining_on_health_care/
I expect you to include them in your rants now, democratic, deep blue, or not.
After all, you do not want to be seen as a hypocrite, do you?
by their stripes, we shall know them
So why didn't he just do this 2 years ago? Why play this game?
Funny that he mentioned the week he gave his budget speech - everyone was talking about the certificate?
Everyone? The S&P announcement about dropping the rating was about his birth certificate?
And I thought the announcement had to do with their response to his incompetence and his budget plan.
Do not worry, that title is still yours
No Joe
Rather than going after DBO for his elation you should adress your fellow like-minded right wing nut jobs (you know, the 50% or more of conservatives that dont believe the president was born in HI)
Just saying....
Just heard some of Trump's news conference and most of what I heard was "I" "I" I". Just another rich man trying to get some power his money has not been able to buy. Now he will start on the academics and will press the affirmitive action button. He will not elaborate on on how easy it is for the wealthy to gain entrance to an Ivy League school if enough money is donated. I really "love" the way Trump has always heard some rumor but never says from whom.
Now all the Republicans can focus their energies on whether the President is a Christian or a Muslim.
I know that Trump has millions that he'd like to spend on that investigation.
I'm sure the result of this coming investigation will result in jobs! jobs Jobs!
Way to keep your eye on the ball !
no joe, no bo, nj
No Jo the point of the story is that they did not take collective barganing right away in reguards to salary. the health care cost for public workers must be cut.
may be there is no uproar because this was done out in the open, maybe because the democrats did not give a tax cut to pay for this, may be because it 100 million not 500 million.
or maybe No jo, the democrats did not use a election as a excuse to screw the employees over, you know there is a right way to take away and a wrong way, Governor walker did it wrong.
screeeeminglib:
Very true, and a large % are tea party folks as well.
Feisty:
Why would you assume her kid would be any different, the apple does not fall far from the tree.
Screeeminglib- ( I don't know if I put enough 'e's' in there)-
You can go back through my posts for as long as I have been posting-
When this issue arose in the primaries, I asked the media to DEBUNK it- and they did.
I continued to say that he was born in Hawaii, this was a tactic to make his opponents look like nuts, and to please, for crying out loud, knock it off with the "birther" nonsense.
So, talk to the hand.
Bob
So why didn't he just do this 2 years ago? Why play this game?
I've noticed that President Obama rarely rises to the bait. I think he just realized he had to release the full birth certificate, because the mudslingingers were winning. It's a shameful moment for our country that it had to come to this, but here it is.
Navy and others,
The difference I'm sure, is that most 13 year olds grow up.
Why didn't you, newday and Feisty?
no joe, no bo, nj
I continued to say that he was born in Hawaii, this was a tactic to make his opponents look like nuts, and to please, for crying out loud, knock it off with the "birther" nonsense.
Ok No Jo I must ask, who's tactic was this, Obama or the democrats who?
If you say Obama, Come On No Jo you GOT TO BE KIDDING!!!!!!!!
Do you think he would take his wife, kids through this, you got to know his kids are asked about this at school, do you think a father would take his kids through that for politics?
Please Answer, PLS!!!
Amy,
Who was really doing the baiting?
Obama said he would be a transparent president, why play the game for 2 years?
Sad part, just another example of leading from behind ....... being behind and losing control on all issues.
Who won today, the buffon or the guy who had to respond to the buffon?
Jeff
Obama wouldn't but those without any decency will continue to try. It is a disgrace and they call themselves Christians.
bob-1805084
Amy,
Who was really doing the baiting?
Obama said he would be a transparent president, why play the game for 2 years?
Obama said he would be a transparent about his brith certificate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
COME ON YOUR KIDDING RIGHT,
A personal document that is non of anybodys business, i don't remember having to post my brithcertificate on line so people on my JOB would leave me the hell alone.
Jennifer-2446215
Jeff
Obama wouldn't but those without any decency will continue to try. It is a disgrace and they call themselves Christians.
Jenn, Point well made, i still want No jo to answer, as much as she hates the guy i want her on record who tacitc she thinks this was.
But Amy, this is the President who plays Chess while we play checkers. How could he have misjudged the mudslingers?
BTW I hope you're in Massachusetts today protesting the removal of bargaining rights from some public union members. Wouldn't want to think you're being inconsistent.
No Joe
You missed an "e" and the point.
I didnt say you HAVENT pointed out to your fellow nut jobs their stupidity I said you should adress the teabaggers et al NOW so we can move on rather than than going after DRO. Get it?
Oh and no one says "talk to the hand" anymore
"by their stripes, we shall know them"
They're now showing their faces on this board.........right wing nuts. one message has been taken away from them. NEXT
The NJ ding bat, can't help herself - she still reads 'Tiger Beat' and swoons over Bobby Sherman!
Sl- that's easier- I was not "going after" dbo. Last week, he posted that exactly this would happen, ( you an insider, dbo?), and I agreed with him.
Agreed, and thanked him for finally agreeing with me that the withholding of the long form was merely a tactic.
See? Sometimes conservatives and liberals do agree on things.
Bob-1805084
'why didn't he do this 2 years ago?". why play these games?"
He did release this information 2 years ago but the "Birthers" refused to believe or accept it. And so we have had 2 years of plain old bat$@!$%# craziness associated with is issue.
People who have decided President Obama is an illiegimate President will never believe he was born in Honolulu on August 4, 1961.
And quite frankly, he doesn't give a damn. He is still the President and until "they" can prove he wasn't, "they" need to shut and sit down!
NoJo's right. I did predict this.
(I just wanted Obama to drag it out to the very end, though, and let the detractors keep the focus on their stupidity longer.....)
Thank you Sheila (and another poster above) for pointing out what should be as obvious to right-wing loons as the president's citizenship -- Various WH spokespersons have said multiple times that they have already made the birth certificate public, and didn't want to give this silliness any further credence. Come on, these wing-nuts won't even listen to people in their own Republican Party, including Karl Rove and Ann Coulter!
All that is being proved is how over-the-cliff conservatives have gone, including Trump--what a piece of work--the spinning he's doing now is HI-larious. And all this continues to show is the No Drama Obama is pragmatic and has the right temperament to be president. Unlike other conspiracies, the Birther one comes from a dark, ugly place. There's the foreign name and race involved here, which is obviously bigotry. Add to that recent right-wing Echo Chamber talking points demonizing Democrats as communists, and it's clear what this is about.
That there will still be those who won't accept facts/evidence (typical anti-intellectualism), only helps President Obama's reelection. I suspect there's some strategy behind the timing of this--for example it ruined Trump's plans to use this to promote his show, in which he was supposedly going to announce his findings on the show just before he would have to make his finances public. Good job, Mr. President, the Chump need a good slap down.
So bring it on you batsh!t teabaggers, bring it on.
HEY TEABAGGERS....there's "NO PROOF " the earth is a round!!!!!! NEWS FOR DUMB FUX! and it continues!!!!
It's a start...but there's still that pesky issue of Obama's SS number, which was issued in Connecticut: a state Obama never lived in. There's also the missing selective services card. It's really quite odd.
Just let a Republican try to get away with that! LOL!
I love the way donald the "FRUMP" never answers any question...he will rephrase it and then still not answer ! Now he has to have the documents examined to make sure they are not fakes ! He also keep saying i don"t want this to be an issue and he is the only person who ever brings it up !
He keeps saying he talks to all these people and wont name one person he has spoken to !
Now i don,t trust this guy at all !
He is on MSNBC right now and he is taking all the credit calling himself a hero. He still thinks My President did not get into Harvard on his merits and while there was a poor student. Affirmative action has been said several times.
This guy is just an A$$. He just cannot see beyond his fat ego. This is not a Presidential candidate. This is a DESPOT wannabe.
Why would any Black American vote for the Republican Party after this assault on our President's legitimate right to his degrees, his citizenship and his ambitions to occupy the highest office in the land?
Why would any member of a minority vote for the Republican Party after this? Why would anyone who was not born into a wealthy famliy, but who hopes a good education will further their career? Why would anyone, who took out student loans to educate themselves, as our President did, vote for the Republican Party? In the eyes of the Republican Party only men who have inherited their wealth (as the Donald inherited 35 million dolars from his father) and made himself a "success" through cut throat business practices (Donald and Romney both) deserves to be President. What a country.
Hilarious.
Trump simply takes credit for the release, then smoothly segues into self-promotion.
Now THAT'S audacity!
Affirmitive Action is a sore spot for these people, you are supposed to have your daddy make a phone call and pull a few strings if you want to be taken seriously.
Great post, Amy---it is beyond me that people put up with this idiocy and the media covers it all.
Amy B.-
Judging from Trump's checkered voting pattern, and the politicians he's given money to, are you sure that he's a Republican?
Most of his political donations have gone to Democratic candidates.
He looks like an apolitical opportunist to me...
What are the poor birther racists going to bitch about now? I know; they can start wearing their white hoods again.
All right, Donald. See you and raise you. Let's see your college transcripts, Mr. Wizard.
Maybe then we'll know why YOU weren't editor in chief of the Harvard Law Review.
Game's on.
The bankruptcy king is proud. What a joke! Do you think that the Rupubs can come up with something that might benefit the country now or we going down the "he wasn't qualified to get into good colleges trip first"? The right looks really foolish with all this deflection crap while they have no vaible plan for the country but this is not something new.
EVERYONE looks like a political opportunist to you, Bag Boy. But I hear you about Trump. You don't suppose, do you, that he has made himself the Trojan Horse inside the Republican Party for the purpose of blowing it up? As a third party candidate, for example, he would just about guarantee Obama's re-election.
Wouldn't that be a kick?
C'mon, AM-
The word was "apolitical"...please! A little respect for the precision of language, counselor.
With regard to Trump as some sort of Trojan Horse, I don't think so.
Trump is about Trump...I don't think it goes much further than that.
Look at the whole "birther" thing...almost anyone else would have been embarrassed and humiliated by the White House release this morning.
Not Trump.
He's clearly subscribes to the "there is no BAD publicity" school of thought.
What a hoot.
What's more, the White House felt compelled, after all this time, to respond to Trump's nonsense...and Trump actually has the nerve to paint this as the result of his personal crusade for transparency.
Hilarious.
Like I said...THAT's audacity!
Too easy, Bag Boy ... yeah, that's audacity ... the audacity of DOPE.
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As for precision of language, I'll respect it when I see it. ;-)
All Trump is worried about is the Apprentice ratings and a golf course in Scotland. Trumps's campaign is all about Trump. He didn't even know what Roe v Wade is based on. What is interesting, slightly, is why the WH responded now and to this. I can't think why and personally don't care.
The only joke I can make out of this is that people confuse Keynesian with Kenyan.
Maybe they'd like to refocus the public's scrutiny on the Ryan budget bill.
Given how that seems to be going, it looks like a good strategy to me.
We could always focus on the battle of the Massachusetts public sector unions to retain their bargaining rights, Anna Molly.
Public sector unions' bargaining rights used to be a pretty popular topic of debate here at First Read.
Hopefully. I enjoyed the clips of Ryan having to defend his bill in the townhalls. Democracy in action. His bill is not perfect but it's a start. DOD has to be included, but I also like the tax reform side, with negotiation as to where the highest tax rate should. As I posted yesterday if you take the President as an example, with deductions he paid 26% of his income in tax. Now if we remove deductions and have a top rate of 27.5% - 30% that would increase revenue and make the process much simpler. Definitely think there should be a cap in mortgage deductions.
One comment on this birther crap. I do think Trump was pandering to a pretty ignorant crowd, but on the left there were instigators like Chris Mathews who seemed intent on keeping this issue going.
Oh, no! Republicans don't get rid of Trump this easily. You embraced him, you used him, you own him.
Well, it's just like anything else, Bag Boy. But they're still popular around here.
Did you know, for example, that the 6th recall petition for a republican state senator will be filed today?
And did you know that Governor "Beam Me Up" is having a little trouble selling the rest of his budget ... to his fellow Republicans?
http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/article_950f8a26-703a-11e0-b8c5-001cc4c03286.html?sourcetrack=moreArticle
Read 'er and weep, Bag Boy. As you might say ... LoL
I wonder...
Will there be any recalls for the Democratic House members in Massachusetts who voted overwhelmingly to curtail the bargaining rights of the public sector unions in the Bay State, Anna Molly?
"Today I'm very proud of myself......." Trump said in New Hampshire.
Well, that makes one of us.....
JoAnne, racists are always proud of themselves. Always.
Can one one our resident tea baggers explain to us WHY this President is being held to a different standard other than the FACT he's BLACK?
Ditto that, Feisty.
And then I would like First Read to explain why they, and the rest of the media, keep giving this nonsense traction. They're behaving more like the cast of Entertainment Tonight than like real journalists.
AM: "They're behaving more like the cast of Entertainment Tonight than like real journalists."
Not true, Anna Molly - at least not today. Entertainment Tonight is all about the REALLY important stuff this week. You know, "THE WEDDING"!!!!!! If Trump thinks he can actually...err... "trump" that, his ego's even bigger than we thought......
LoLoL JoAnne. You're right, of course. My bad.
By the way, does anyone know -- was Trump invited to The Wedding?
Well, another week has passed when the House of Representatives under the leadership of John Boehner has done nothing to work on the economy---if they are even in session---so I guess Mr. Trump has diverted attention from that---has to be considered a success to Republicans.
I think anyone with the name barrack hussein obama should have to show his birth cert. especially when he is running for the highest office we have, and i also noticed that only the leftwing news stations would keep asking trump the same thing over and over even after trump would be talking about other things, Trump is a lot smarter man than obuma could ever hope to be.there is a lot of personnel questions obama has not been asked because the only questions he will take are already screened and he will not go on fox cause he knows there the only news station that has the ba77s to ask him questions obout his past and what he is doing to our future.
I think it is a forgery. A forgery made by aliens many years ago, who came to this earth and lived as muslim, athiest, socialists. They created him with an above average brain to do their bidding. They were afraid that if they gave him a below average brain, he might just turn out to be another Donald Trump or Dick Cheney.
Jack 0929
I think it is a forgery. A forgery made by aliens many years ago, who came to this earth and lived as muslim, athiest, socialists. They created him with an above average brain to do their bidding. They were afraid that if they gave him a below average brain, he might just turn out to be another Donald Trump or Dick Cheney.
See, now there you go. I knew it. There is always a segment in our society who just believe facts are made up.
Anymore 3... 2.. 1...?
News Flash:
"Talking dog reveals winning lottery number to Elvis' brain!" Read all about it!!
Jack ~ I'd love to hear your explanation for dinosaurs. ;-)
Love it, Jack - you nailed it! People will believe what they WANT to believe. This is the stuff myths are made of - "gee, I just saw something I don't understand (or don't like); let's see if I can come up with an explanation and convince everyone else it's true!"
Thanks for a good laugh.
Anna - Dinosaurs never existed. They were invented by the Obama administration as part of a larger conspiracy to undermine democracy as we know it. I know this to be true because I have NEVER seen a dinosaur's birth certificate. Long or short form. So how could we ever know they really existed? This is undeniable proof.
Jack, that was funny! But no one was debating whether Obama exists, just where he existed first. Ok, technicality. I just hope this puts an end to the list of non-issues Republicans are trying to prop up as important. Like illegal aliens probing celebrities (can't be "real" aliens, 'cus that would suggest God wasn't in on it)...
jack.... if he is so smart then mabe you can tell us why it took him three times to pass the bar exam, and why he would spend twenty years in a white race hateing church but yet he did not listen, or how about his connection with crack coccaine and brag about it .
The Stuck on Stupid hour has started, carlyss man has been granted computer time at " the home".
I guess thats why you cannot answer the questions or comment on the statements all you can do is put down people you know nothing about,I guess that means everything im saying is true,why does he go to another church sunday and listen to a radical preacher put the constitution down,if anything you would think an american president would walk out of american preacher who does not like america,just like rev. right, seems to me he likes what he is listening to and i think that is a discrace to his office. now try and answer the comments if you are smart enough which i doubt.
We know enough to know that you are stupid, carlyss man. There is nothing disgraceful in listening to the complaints of a fellow citizen about the conduct of those who have served as Constitutional officers in our land. We are the land of the Free, home of the brave and FREE SPEECH.
What the hell took him so long???!!! All presidential candidates should be required by teh FCC to produce such documentation as a matter or procedure.
The Federal Communications Commission should get involved in elections?
He already produced what was legally required of him.........that wasn't enough for your ilk.
TJB:
The Federal CommunicationsCommission?
Brilliant.
You have successfully demonstrated that you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
Oops, I meant FEC!
The information was released a long tme ago. The GOP/TP is just trying to divert your attention away from the important issues like Jobs, the Economy, Education etc. They know he was born in the United States from the get go. Just more GOP/TP BS. They knew the long form was not designed for public release that the short form has the identical information and is the public record.
Dear Administration: Quit jumping through hoops for crazy people. It has a paradoxical affect in that it just makes them crazier, and the hospitals don't have room for all of them. Thanks.
TJB, what difference does it make if you meant the FCC, the FEC, the FBI, or the FFA? Have you or anyone else ever publicly demanded that George Bush show HIS birth certificate? John McCain? Bill or Hillary Clinton? Joe Biden? Mitt Romney?
There were six presidents before Barack Obama who had at least one parent not born in this country. Andrew Jackson had two. Anyone demanding to see his birth certificate or saying he wasn't a "natural born citizen"?
TJB -- On the whole, no one could probably argue with your point, except the part about the FCC did leave an opening big enough to drive a house through, but ....
Did you say the same thing in 2000 or 2004 or any other presidential election year? Why not?
What took so long is that he had to have the White House counsel negotiate with the State of Hawaii to set aside one of their sovereign state regulations in order to release the long form. The law in Hawaii states that the long form will NOT be released. The only reason the State of Hawaii agreed to an exception is that they were getting badgered to distraction by this non-issue as well. The White House counsel then had to fly to Hawaii to pick the thing up and bring it back. Now, perhaps you feel this is a good use of taxpayer funds. I don't . I hope you and your ilk are really happy about the money (not to mention attention) that has been wasted on this idiocy.
Walla Walla ~ To these folks, any distraction is a good distraction.
If we're talking birther, then we're not scrutinizing the Ryan budget bill.
And money is no object in their quest to make the truth whatever they would like it to be.
I never said I was a birther. I would love to see the birth certificates for all presidential nominees. If citizenship is a requirement to hold the office then someone should be verifying and reporting the findings publicly. Then we wil never have to worry about this type of scenario in the future! The key point is BHO could have laid all this to rest 2 years ago, but chose to drag it out.
TJB:
I'm throwing the BS flag on you.
Never said you're not a birther? BS. You didn't have to say it. Only BIRTHERS want to see "the long form."
You want to see all birth certificates? BS.
What if the candidate is white male? Don't trust him either? BS.
BHO DID put this to rest 2 years ago...actually, in 2008. Produced the legal document that Hawaii issues for all births. But you, and the others, weren't satisfied.
So don't come around here claiming that you're not a "birther." You are, and you should be ashamed.
obama said he has more important things to worry about, I guess thats why after his comment today his most important economy problem was the fuel he wasted going to do an interview with oprah then it was off to a fund raiser.Trump is not going to run for president but he did not make seven billion dollars which he says is about his worth by being dumb unlike our president that has done nothing but put this country in more debt,and has more failed policies in such a short time ,a man that cannot make up his mind.He has been on tv in the past saying we should not raise the debt ceiling nor would he vote for it and yet now he is all for raiseing it,people cant afford to drive to work even if there were any jobs,but do you you hear any of this on nbc news stations,just like trump says -these biast stations are going to protect obama no matter how silly it makes them look and its not racist to talk about him staying on the basketball court like a lot of the left are crieing .It just so happens that it is what he likes to do just like trump likes to play golf.
Trump is well aware that Obama golfs as well. Trump is worth $2.7 Billion, according to FORBES. I'll trust their numbers before Trump's bluster.
Next Trump will demand college transcripts. What other president ever had to go through this kind of petty scrutiny? It's crazies that press this issue because they hate the notion that an African American man can reside at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave...other than in the servants' quarters. But it'll ultimately backfire on them and if more moderate GOP candidates don't distance themselves from this idiocy soon, they'll look just as stupid as Trump.
Ursula:
He is doing that right now on MSNBC. Called Our President a product of affirmative action. The man is a RACIST period.
How sad that more Republicans don't condemn this kind of behavior. I am embarrassed that the President and his family have to go through this.
Steeler Fan-380417
I am embarassed for our country that one of the most intelligent and gifted President we have had is subjected to this slander. If Republicans don't agree with our President's policies, they should argue over that, not attack his right to hold office because his father was African.
Perhaps it's time that Mr. Trump's family or business associates consider his mental state. Perhaps "old age" is creeping up on Mr. Trump, or perhaps before his associates filtered out some of the nonsense and insensitivity he continues to spout. Mr. Trump mistakenly equates money with intelligence, and he can't understand why children of his friends today (21st century) who go to the best schools, have great exam scores ( = wealthy background and preparation) don't get into Columbia, while a man who wasn't wealthy did (35 or more years ago) did as a transfer student. He has "heard" (from whom we will never know) that President Obama wasn't a good student, so he thinks there's something fishy going on, that he didn't write his books... Mr. Trump sounds very little like a wealthy, real estate mogul and much more like a harmless retiree sitting on a park bench and indulging in conspiracy theories with the next guy who comes along. Who is taking care of Mr. Trump's supposed day job? Is that person going to run his presidency as well?
you mean they should argue over *gasp* JOBS or something?
You are right, Amy---and few people seem to speak out against it. It shouldn't take "Profiles in Courage" for a Republican to condemn this behavior.
If I were the President, I would agree to release my college transcripts, but only if Trump and the other Republican candidates release theirs.
I have this feeling, however, that neither Trump nor any of the others are going to do that.
And I think I know why.
Now the real question... i have been wondering for years .. was the "FRUMP" actually born a male? I am just now sure ...lol
i love the comment" i was around then and i don't remember some guy named barak obama" that is one of the stupid funny lines i have read lately!
No Donald your very sad today, not because your conspiracy theory has been debunked, but because Now you must change your crazy talking points. So whats Next?
The winner is the republicans, the SANE republicans who never believed this crap!!! they can now go tell the brithers to go to hell, and focus on 2012.
I'm sad he showed this because now we will not have to hear the crazy theroys and laugh at them it will no longer cloud this issues with in the republicans, on where he was born.
Please tell me I'm Wrong.
Jeff-1541632
I'm sad he showed this because now we will not have to hear the crazy theroys and laugh at them it will no longer cloud this issues with in the republicans, on where he was born.
Please tell me I'm Wrong.
Sorry to burst your bubble, Jeff, but you're wrong. The nut jobs are retreating under their rocks as we speak looking for something else or to continue this folly. It's going to be something like: it's the wrong color, it is a forgery, the numbers are transposed, etc. etc. etc.
Bet on it.
When it comes to lunacy because, they are such a depraved group of people, the republi/clowns leave no stone unturned.
Beverly in Chicago
Sorry to burst your bubble, Jeff, but you're wrong. The nut jobs are retreating under their rocks as we speak looking for something else or to continue this folly. It's the wrong color, it is a forgery, the numbers are transposed, etc. etc. etc. Bet on it.
The republi/ clowns leave no stone unturned.
Well bev, what I'm saying is, if this doesn't shut the brithers up, nothing will and there crazy theroys will take the legitimate and i mean legitimate republicans down. because what ever else they come up with will be more ridiculous than this, see what i mean. i know Bohnor and cantor would love for this crap to GO AWAY. the look on Bohnors orange face the last time he was asked about if obama was born here i could tell he was ready then to tell the brithers to go home.
They should not have done this. It causes Trump to think that he is much more relevant than he is. As to the affirmative action canard? When you apply to the elites, you had better have a transcript that matches what they look for. If you don't all the affirmative action in the world (including legacy status) will not help you.
It's time for Trump to run back to NBC for that nice, easy paycheck, laughing maniacally over how easy it is to tap into the willfully ignorant for ratings. To run for president, he'd have to actually work something other than facial muscles. The horror!
Of course you all realize its fake don't you? They got a handwriting expert to recreate all those signatures and the document itself is just too easy to forge.
There you go mixed bag, JAS1, joe, ITM, I've saved you the trouble.
Good one, Frank, that is exactly what will happen!
What's bizarre is, even his opponents give our President props for being an intelligent and likeable man. It's the old Rovian trick: attack an opponent's strengths, not his weaknesses. That's why they attacked John Kerry's service record, even though Bush never served in Vietnam and Kerry did. Here Kerry was recognized for bravery under fire, by actually saving a fellow sailor's life, and the Republicans successfully slandered his service, or, as the dictionary defines it, they "swiftboated" him.
...And that icky green color. Can't possibly be real.
Did anyone think the release of the "long form" certificate that the morons have been clamoring for would really end this nonsense? Of course not. I've believed all along that they would start saying the long form certificate was suspect if it were released. Now it needs to be "verified" according to the Trumpster. There was already absolute proof Obama was born in the US without the long form certificate, so why should its release change the minds of people who don't have much in the mind department?
Anyone here download the certificate? I have a bridge i want to sell you.
Unbelievable! Have we taken stupid pills that allow this joke (or what should be a joke) keeps going on and on like the Enigerizer Bunny? Anyone really think someone can become president without anyone noticing he is not a natural born citizen?
The "liberal media" has egg, all over its face!!
Liberal? Make that Republican. And make that "s*it.
Donald Trump said "he should have done it a long time ago" in regards to the birth certificate, but what other president has been harassed this much about his place of birth. I hope that release of the certificate will finally put an end to this nonsense.
I think the President was correct in not giving credence to this issue. Why dignify anything a birther has to say? It is all based in bigotry and political posturing to their idiot base.
I am truly sorry that the White House released President Obama's long form birth certificate! The short form was suffice. I don't recall any American president having gone through this crap! And that is just what it is - C R A P!
Now, Mr. Trump feels that he is obliged to authenticate the document! Please! I know that he will bring forth something to question.
For the past two years, people like Mr. Trump have been showing the world the ugly side of America is! It's sad because they have had the spotlight and not the great and wonderful people who make America beautiful.!
If the White House had simply done this years/months ago, this issue would not have even been as vocal as it has been. I could care less who gets credit. I am just glad the President finally decided to provide the evidence that could have resolved this a lONG LONG time ago. SO, why did he wait so long to take this simple step? Probably had nothing to hide, but liked the birther drive so he could use it to his political advantage. Sad ... very sad! Heck, what is Chris Mathews going to report on now that is relevant since he did more to prolong this debate than most folks! AS he yells on his intro "HA!"
The President's birth certificate has been posted on line for freaking ever. And "Fed up Senior" you will be making the same demand of the Republican White candidates that will be running. Or do you save this for minority race candidates? hmmmm?
The Whitehouse had no need to respond in any kind of hurry to the "crazies". What Trump has done is merely to have sunk to the lowest level of discourse possible. It is a little like asking, "Have you stopped beating your girlfriend, yet?" The absence of any legal record of having beaten your girlfriend, is their evidence of a conspiracy to hide the "crime".
I agree, Paul. To respond to this sort of nonsense gives it credence.
Donald Trump will soon announce that he has personally captured Osama Bin-Laden. Tricked him with the old "when your in New York I got a great place where you can pitch your tent" scam. Trump says not only did he screw Osama out of the camping fee, he also snatched a hell of a nice rug. He then added, "it might be one of those flying carpets I have investigators checking into it. He finished by saying that he had turned Bin-Laden over to Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann for interrogations. After 5 minutes of questioning Bin-Laden said "you see, you see now why we wrap the women's mouths tightly with scarves". Stay tuned.
Forrest Grump
Donald Trump will soon announce that he has personally captured Osama Bin-Laden. Tricked him with the old "when your in New York I got a great place where you can pitch your tent" scam.
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
He could use a decent rug!
LOL he sure could.
I assume you are joking, but this will be given serious consideration by many. Do not be surprised to find your self on FOX news or Rush and proclaimed one who really, really knows. You might be elected to Congress.
Can´t believe he was forced to show his full birth certificate or that a majority of all republicans believes he is not an american. Is this what america has come to ?
Was Bush ever asked this nonsense or mccain that was not actually born in america asked this.
Bush was never asked because it was obvious that he had never been out of the state of Texas in his entire life!
Are you kidding...there are really people in this country that actually believe that it is NOT about RACE! Since the swearing in of this president America has reminded US that racism is alive and flourishing. No other President or vice president (Dick Cheney) has ever been scrutinized like Obama. Is there no end or no shame. There will come a time when denial will not be the order of the day. Until then keep hating...which is only a true reflection of how you feel about yourselves. You people are so gullible, blind and pathetic that you believe without checking the source and worse don't give a dam whether there is a source to the lies and hatred spawned. "If you wanna make this world a better place ...take a look at yourself in the mirror and make that change"
I think Obama played is just right. He let the birthers make a fool out of themselves. After he showed 3 years ago what he needed to get a passport.
Anything can forged to look as good as the original. With the more sophisticated computers etc coming out, it's very easy to do so, they claim. It takes more than a glance to prove "authenticity". I still wonder why his Grandmother in Kenya is still so adamant about his birth occurring in Kenya. Or will a sudden retraction occur? The cousin was quite upset that she'd not take his hints to be quiet and not answer the questions presented to her. Whether the skin is white or of color...anyone deserves to scrutinized when it comes to the ability to sit as President of the US. There's been quite a bit presented to point out that Mr Obama is of questionable character. That "questionable shadiness" can be seen in his choices of advisers and "czars" he has appointed to very sensitive positions. The people have a right to seek the truth. He is not the first to be questioned nor will he ever be the last. I for one don't care what others think...my opinion is my opinion....he's done too much to destroy and debase this country and continues to do so. He has n o respect for the American flag, he always does the opposite of what he says, and if you'd read more about the man.....you'd not want him as president either. I've read every book I can on the man....his goal is to destroy the US economically...and he's doing it. When he speaks...I turn his words around....that's when the truth comes out and happens.....it's always the opposite of what he presents publicly is what is going to happen. Our media is so enthralled at the fact that he is the US's first African-American president.....but their enthrallment over this man is blinding them from presenting the truth about him. It's like they have to prove he's capable of being president as well as. I have seen quite a few other African Americans who are more capable of holding the position and that I would have definitely voted for. He's done so much that any other president would have been raked over the coals for in the press and Congress as well and impeachment would have removed him. It's like they have become afraid to consider this. But he can also be removed by the fact that he is incapable of being a president. He's shown that in many ways since the beginning of his term.
Adjust your tin-foil hat and stay tuned for the next transmission.
Wow. What planet are you from, again? I don't think you've read EVERY book. Maybe just the crazy ones.
Believe this: The Sun circles the Earth. Earth is flat. Or the Earth was formed only 6,000 years ago. Remember that the Church believed this was fact, not fiction. They burned people at the stake for opposing their views.
Mamaw:
You really need to get out more. Your post has to be one of the most moronic I have ever wasted my time reading. Not to mention that most of it is false.
To Mamaw,
Couldn't help but notice the other replies above are so defensive of the idiot you speak of. (obabaloney ) Facts of what this elect has done are on the record. obama's transparency to date has been nothing more than a process of blatant and repulsive lies. Your critics above obviously don't read at all, due to the fact that none of your widely accepted issues you've mentioned above are being challenged with facts. Just childish blabber, which is common amoung those who don't have two brain cells they could rub together.
I really think that President Obama should bill Donald Trump (the big pompous git) for the fees and charges incurred in order for the President's counsel and the state of Hawaii to open the birth certificate to the public--especially since it's a full legal process, and is normally against the state of Hawaii's laws to be released as it is private information not within the public domain. Because, you know, those billable hours can get pretty high, and then you add in the court fees and expenses, the flights to and from Hawaii, etc., and of course, the teapartiers aren't going to want the TAXPAYERS to pay for it...What a ridiculous load. Trump is a blowhard and should be treated as such. And people who are against Obama aren't going to believe it, anyway, so why even bother? There are more important things going on in this country. Obama's mom was from Kansas, as far as I'm concerned that makes him a natural born citizen; if natural born citizen means he has to be born on American soil, then John McCain couldn't be president either as he was born in Panama.