Congress: 'Grow up'

In an interview with ABC yesterday, House Speaker John Boehner “said President Obama needs to ‘grow up’ in talks over deficit reduction.” On the topic of the president’s deficit-reduction commission (which, by the way, not a single House Republican on it voted for): “‘While I didn't agree with everything they did, there was a lot in their proposal that was worth of consideration. And what did the president do? He took exactly none of his own deficit reduction commission's ideas. Not one. Come on! It's time to grow up and get serious about the problems that face our country,’ Boehner said.”

At the same time he told Obama to "grow up," Boehner said he "won’t guarantee a vote on raising the debt limit, the latest threat in an increasingly high stakes game of chicken with the White House over whether Congress will inch closer to letting the nation default on its credit," Politico says.

“Boehner, in an interview with POLITICO here Monday, also demanded that President Barack Obama give in to Republican demands to slash spending and dramatically change ‘the way we spend the peoples’ money.’”

More debt-ceiling debate: Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV), who’s up for reelection next year, is in his home state and this morning will speak out against raising the debt ceiling without a more long-term budget fix in place in what he’s calling “Commonsense Solutions Week.” He will talk about his support for the Corker-McCaskill CAP Act (which would cap the amount the federal government can spend as a percentage of GDP each year) and the Udall-Shelby balanced-budget amendment). But Manchin will also talk about protecting Social Security and Medicare.

He will hit President Obama for voting against a debt ceiling in 2006 but wanting to raise it now. And he will hit Congress and the president for not being able to “agree on a plan to reduce our federal debt.” He will also say, in part, per prepared remarks: “There are some in Washington who will say this position is irresponsible, that it jeopardizes our economy and our markets. Amazingly, Washington is the only place where agreeing to trillions of dollars of additional debt and avoiding difficult budget decisions is the ‘responsible’ thing to do. The truth is, raising the debt ceiling without a real budget fix would be the definition of irresponsibility.” 

CORRECTION: An earlier version of this post incorrectly stated the purpose of the Corker-McCaskill CAP Act as a cap on the amount of debt the U.S. can incur. It is actually a cap the amount the federal government can spend as a percentage of GDP each year.

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Excuse me if i think out loud ...but weren't these the very people the congress/senate that have led us down these paths of never ending wars ...relaxed bank regulations that caused the financial collapse of the United States. And aren't these the same people who sold us down the river when it came to completive health care costs...And the very same people who continues to ok the dropping of off billions in cash a month..left out overnight and the next day all of the cash is gone ...and they complain about all these entitlements and yet we continue to pay out billions every month to oil company's who are showing records profits ... and the very same people who take bribes in the form of donations to keep the "KOCH" brothers happy .... What we need is a new government worker who is paid a 35K a year salary to run the country ...no donations period ! A group of workers who cant benefit in any way ..so the government works for the people for once !

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Reply#1 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:14 AM EDT

Technically, no, not many anyway. The republicans were, if I may borrow a phrase from Obama, shelacked back in 2006 and 2008 with a lot of people losing seats to democrats (Who, incidentally, voted for the very things you rant against also) and in 2010 a lot of dems lost their seats to fresh faces in the republican party. So no, they aren't the exact same people. They are people, however, who FINALLY seem to understand the need to get serious on our spending habits. What has happened in the past can't be changed, we can only try to do better going forward and clearly continuing the same new spending, increase entitlements plan that the democrats have been putting forward hasn't helped.

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#1.1 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:11 AM EDT

John Boehner is simply an abject clown. this is the same party advocating cutting deficits but adopting and voting for ryan's budget that will end medicare and add several trillions to the deficit. a plan they can't even defend hence, they guff about.

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#1.2 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:39 AM EDT

"budget that will end medicare and add several trillions to the deficit."

Lying about the plan is horrible. The only defference in the Presidents plan and Ryan's to Medicade is The President wants to limit growth to 7 % while Ryan wants to limit the growth to 2%.

Both parties want to limit the growth, it has to be done. The debate is now on what is the right % to allow growth.

    #1.3 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:29 AM EDT

    Well pius - care to enlighten us on how much obama's deficit cutting plan 2.0 will add to our debt.

    Oh, I forgot, obama didn't give numbers just campaign re-election rhetoric. Looks like obama is like the little kid at the playground with the ball.

    "It's my ball! If you won't play by my rules, I am taking it and going home!"

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    #1.4 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:34 AM EDT

    american-2051576 & frankusa-3273549

    so what are you opinions of ryan's budget?

    Under bush, the biggest transfer of wealth occurred in the history of mankind. ryan's plan is to consolidate this trend. the rich getting richer and poor getting poorer. am not in support of any additional deficits. obama has done a great job saving the economy ..... hey, look at detriot you guys never gave a chance, the stock market has bounced back, hiring is picking up. fine his budget adds 7.7trillion to the deficit. but giving the fragile state of the economy, we need to cut spending across the board and not ending safe net programs, revenue need to generated hence, I support tax increase and closing tax loopholes we don't need cutting taxes for anybody. who pays for those cuts......the middle class. ask yourselves, why is that the one and only remedy the GOP has to any economic problem is "cutting taxes for the top 2%". also why are your reps unable to defend their adopted ryan's plan. what we need is reinvestment in the economy. in an economy, you've got 3 players, the masses don't have the money, the corporations are not doing much either hence the govt. need to spend. somebody must keep investing for us to get out this mess.

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    #1.5 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:48 PM EDT

    Pius, the conundrum created with your government spending plan is this- the government gets it's money from exactly one source- the people. SO the more the government takes in order to spend us toward a healthy economy comes out of the hands of the masses. You can theorize that they (the Gov) should only take the money from the hands of a particular income group, but the ultimate issue is that the government cannot tax that income group enough to support it's current level of spending, let alone all the new spending they want to do. So then they need to start taxing more from a lower income group (the middle class), which just means more people with less money to spend in the only way the economy truly gets fixed- by the masses increasing demand.

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    #1.6 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:37 PM EDT

    PIUS you are not exactly right don't get me wrong Bush was not a good Pres. but everyone like to skew things in the favor of their party. Yes we had more billionaires than ever, we had more millionaires than ever, but those millionaires moved up from middle class and we also had more lower class move to the middle class. So people getting rich isn't a bad thing it's capitalism, rich people spend money which helps all in the market place and they hire many that would be nice right now.

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    #1.7 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:17 PM EDT

    pius - ryans plan for cutting tax loophole and lowering taxes was to be revenue neutral based on obamas criteria in his state of the union address.

      #1.8 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:22 PM EDT

      pius - no doubt taxes will need to be raised, but let's make the cuts first. Politicians find it to easy to look at increasing revenues and then ignore cuts. Seems like it is signal to them to just keep on spending.

      Keep in mind that that both parties seem to think this way.

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      #1.9 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:32 PM EDT

      time 4truth & Suzy-2005071

      irrespective of ideological differences, that any one can become rich is one to the things that makes this country very unique. No one is asking to punish success.

      at the backdrop of the financial collapse, the tax payer rallied and bailed out wall st. and co. even though there's been denial is some quarters, the bail out paid off and even yielded dividend and now that we all need to sacrifice, ryan is asking to give more tax cut to this top 2% while trying to balance the budget on the back of the middle class. He has proposed nothing difference from the same wasteful and never paid for tax cuts for the top 2%. so in his world, it's always a bed of roses for this top 2% whether good or bad. Their no such word like scarifies in their dictionary. here’s the problem, making us to believe we must appease these guys to survive. giving tax cut will be the most irresponsible thing any sane person will advocate and fight for giving the state of economy. tell me, you did this under bush, how did we fare? 38% tax they paid under clinton did not kill them. Infact, we had surplus. it all about rolling back the bush tax cut, extended by obama. that was the beginning of our problem. Let us retrace our footsteps.

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      #1.10 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:29 PM EDT

      Pius you are not wrong but we as Americans(TAXPAYERS) are scarificing the most, the nearly 49% of zero liability voters get off scott free. Enough of trying to punish success, everyone needs to pay the same % of taxes even the nearly 49% that don't currently pay fed. taxes. The rich already pay more by earning more that's what an equal tax rate would do . We obviously need to cut all the wasteful and needless spending.

        #1.11 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:27 PM EDT
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        Listening to politicians is enough to make your head swim. I understand the nonpartisan Congressional Budget office said that repealing the President's Health Care Reform Act would add 230 billion dollars to the federal deficit over the next decade and leave 32 million Americans without health insurance.

        If lowering the federal debt were the Republicans real aim, why would they advocate repealing the Healthcare Reform Act? Could it be they just want to enrich the insurance industry by changing Medicare into a private insurance system, basically creating a subsidy for those corporations? And who the heck is going to pay for the heathcare of 32 million Americans who are left without insurance?

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        #2 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:27 AM EDT

        So Amy, It is the responsibility of the taxpayers of this country to pay for someone's health care.

        So that others can use up the credit cards, take vacations, while those of us who actually work can pay for them to be taken care of.

        That is your problem, you don't want anyone to work or think for themselves, it shows in most of your post. The government should be taking care of you, well, because they take care of corporations.

        Well they shouldn't be taking care of corporations, and they shouldn't be giving people health care. People need to start earning their way through life. Why should anyone get more back from the government than they put in?

        And last time I did math--just like your friend Navy--230 billion over 10 years--well that is 23 billion a year--could cut the foreign aid budget and get that back. And it is still seven (7) times cheaper than our Presidents 2012 Budget proposal. Just one year.

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        #2.1 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:34 AM EDT

        BigBear62

        Isn't the whole problem with HCR, according to the lawsuit winding it's way to the Supreme Court, that it "forces" people to buy health insurance?

        Considering the fact hospitals will not allow the un-insured to die on the sidewalk, I don't see the problem with "forcing" people to buy affordable health insurance.

        Just speaking from real life, not theoretical life, the current system is grossly unfair. I work in an office and have health insurance through my employer. My big skill is answering the phone. My brother works in construction, building chimneys, hearths, and laying cement block, and he and his family rely on Maine Care. Tell, me, is my brother a moocher because he gets his insurance through the government? (I'd like to see you tell that to his face :)

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        #2.2 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:54 AM EDT

        Come now Bigbear unless you have employer provided healthcare people are forced to buy health insurance in the open market. HCR has attempted to address a larger pool of these uninsured so that they will be able to get more affordable care. Despite some people's rhetoric the HCR law leaves the third party middle men, private insurance companies, in place. It is not government healthcare. The governement has only implemented reforms to try to make them play honest.

        At the present time if you have no employeer provided coverage and buy it on the open market it is expensive. Even if you can afford the premiums if you are hit with a major incident or problem it is difficult to see how being self sufficient alone will help pay down a possible hospital bill that could be in the tens of thousands.

        I believe that pure unadulterated capitalism needs to be tempered with some portions of socialism. Government should responsibly work for the common good of its citizens. By the way I agree with you that the government shouldn't be taking care of corporations.

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        #2.3 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:04 AM EDT

        That this country would NOT want its people to be healthy and educated is unbelieveable. That the common good should not be a priority is unbeleiveable.

        And yet...

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        #2.4 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:24 AM EDT

        The term "affordable" keeps on coming up, yet no one has ever said in $$$ what "affordable" is. As a sidebar to this, didn't obama make the claim that those not able to pay the "affordable amount" would receive government vouchers to pay the insurance?

        fielden - your argument is one of misdirection and falls within the same category as if I asked you the following question and you had to answer it "yes or no"

        "So fielden, have you stopped beating your significant other yet?"

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        #2.5 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:45 AM EDT

        Amy,

        Does your brother purchase his insurance from Maine Care, or does he live on a government subsidized health insurance program?

        There is the difference. If your brother works & purchases his insurance, even if from the government, he is not mooching off the government--because he has earned his money and is paying for his insurance.

        If your brother is getting a government run health insurance without purchasing it while he works, then he is mooching off the government, I would be happy to tell him to his face.

        There in lies the difference between us, if you work for something and earn it, it is not my business whether or not you have something. But as a taxpaying citizen--if you get something for nothing--government subsidies--then you are a moocher!!! I shouldn't have to pay for my family and yours, just because you did not pick careers that make you enough money to support your habits.

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        #2.6 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:55 AM EDT

        Yellowdog,

        I would probably agree with some parts of health insurance if we weren't mandated to purchase insurance for "for profit" corporations. All the democrats did was line their pockets with corporate money--which many on here don't seem to mind. Costs are not down, they will not go down, because their are no regulations placed on them, outside of making sure kids are covered & they have to accept you if you have a pre-existing condition.

        Heck, I could have made up those rules in 10 pages, didn't need 2500 pages.

        The democrats are no better than Bush's mandated "No Child Left Behind". They say it helps others, but what it does, is takes away any incentive to work hard & get ahead, plus pay your own bills. Why would anyone want to spend their own hard earned money on insurance when the government & taxpayers are taking care of them. That is simple, but true with many people. Go out on the streets & see for yourself.

          #2.7 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:00 PM EDT

          So Amy, It is the responsibility of the taxpayers of this country to pay for someone's health care.

          @BigBear - <sigh>

          YOU pay for the other people's healthcare NOW.

          If you are employed and get your Healthcare through your job, one of the reasons your premiums raise each year ( and your benefits shrink ) is because the cost of Healthcare is always rising BECAUSE Hospitals care for everyone regardless of whether they have coverage or not.

          Have you or any relatives ever been to the Hospital for a procedure? Did you see the bill? It was probably outrageous. Built into that outrageous bill were costs to cover not only your procedure but the costs of those patients that the Hospital will never recoup costs from.

          There is a reason that a Hospiatal Tylanol tablet costs $20 per pill when an entire package of 20 pills runs $7 at the local store.

          You ARE paying for others healthcare - just because the cost is 'hidden' from you doesn't mean you don't pay. And there is nothing you can do about it. Next Year, your premiums will be higher ( again ) and your benefits will be less ( again ). You have no real choice.

          Your choices are Healthcare - yes or no.

          And to answer one of your other statements. One of the reasons that the Healtcare Act was ~ 2500 pages was that we are dealing with laywers here. You could have written it on 10 pages, but that wouldn't have stood up in a court of law. Do you own a house? Remember how many pages you had to sign to get the house in your name ? Mine was at least 60 pages.

          Legal stuff loves paper - get used to it

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          #2.8 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:24 PM EDT

          "If your brother works & purchases his insurance, even if from the government, he is not mooching off the government--because he has earned his money and is paying for his insurance."

          How is this different from HCR? The President's Healthcare Reform Bill, which the Republicans are trying to block because it "forces" people to buy health insurance, is not "free." Yes, the poorest people would get subsidies to buy insurance, not because one feels sorry for them, but because uninsured people still show up at emergency rooms for healthcare, and much sicker, ususally, than if they'd gotten care earlier.

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          #2.9 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:25 PM EDT

          "I don't see the problem with "forcing" people to buy affordable health insurance."

          So you think we should just throw the constituion out the window? What other parts of the contittion do you think we should just ignore. Freedom of the press? Freedom of Speech

            #2.10 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:36 PM EDT

            Pablo FL

            Just to add onto your post a bit. I just had major surgery and spent 2 nights at a hospital. I have health insurance that I pay for because my employer does not offer benefits. The bill from the hospital was for $77,000. Antherm Blue Cross paid for $14,000 and my share is $3000. So $60,000 is not paid for at all. Does anyone see a problem with the system???????????????????

              #2.11 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:06 PM EDT

              Amy,

              Did you answer the question, does your brother purchase his insurance from Maine Care or not? Because the first time you seem to threaten me by saying I wouldn't say it to his face if he were a moocher.

              Your brother does not "have" to purchase insurance today. The HCR mandates that everyone buys insurance from a "for profit" insurance company.

              Subsidies are freebies to people--you claim that 32 million more will be on the roles--why don't they have insurance now. Even if half could afford to buy, but decide against it, that would be 16 million more on the subsidy list--who pays for that subsidy--Oh my gosh--the actual taxpayers of this country. Not you 47% that don't pay taxes, but the 53% that do.

              Go to wikipedia and check out our 2010 budget--43% of the budget is "nanny state" programs of Medicare/medicaid/social security. Again, why should anyone get something from the government that they don't pay into.

                #2.12 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:08 PM EDT

                Frankusa,

                Many on here use the Constitution to take from others, not protect the rights of the individual. Their constitution is about the haves and have nots. If you have something, it is their right to take.

                  #2.13 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:12 PM EDT

                  Pablo,

                  The real fact is, there are no profit controls for insurance companies. Lawyers love paperwork, heck everyone knows that. What politicians love is stuff hidden in their comprehensive bills.

                  As Nancy would say "we have to pass it to see what is in it".

                  Where are the cost controls in the bills, the profit controls, Regulations that allow people to purchase insurance at a decent rate. None of that is in there. Just more profit for HI providers & the democratic leaders in their back pockets.

                    #2.14 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:16 PM EDT

                    BigBear62

                    In your world, apparently, there is the always the possibility one will never get sick or injured in one's lifetime and elderly people all die peacefully, without intervention.

                    An unlikey scenerio for most people, big fella.

                    The need for healthcare is one of those facts of life, and to deny it is just ridiculous. In the real world, some jobs come with employer based health insurance, and some do not. I have friends who are self employed who pay thousands a month for health insurance that comes with a $20,000 deductible. Last winter I had a breast biopsy, to check some calcium deposits that turned out to be benign. Luckily I am insured, but if I wasn't, how could I have afforded the $3,000 plus dollars for the test? What do people do who don't have insurance: forgo that test. And they might not be as lucky as me. My doctor told me I had to have the test, because if it was cancer, they'd be catching it early. I can well imagine a woman without insurance risking waiting for the next mammography instead of getting the biopsy - and having it be too late.

                      #2.15 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:09 PM EDT
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                      Boehner? Is anyone actually taking this guy serious?

                      Did anyone hear him try to justify the subsidies given to oil companies in spite of their enormous profits? Isn't this the same guy that said let GM fail and file bankruptcy? This is the kind of stuff that will sink the GOP in 2012.

                      Grasping the knife firmly in your right hand, press the sharp edge against your throat and pull left to right in a single quick motion. That's what he's done to the GOP.

                      • 8 votes
                      Reply#3 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:32 AM EDT

                      DId you not hear Boehner state today that he was open to removing the tax exemptions and subsidies for big oil corporations but wanted to protect the small drilling companies that need the support. Nope... I guess you would rather rant without any substance behind your comments. The Ryan Budget proposal also left room for elimination of tax exemptions that only the well off and rich can afford to take advantage of (you know.. those green exemptions which would essentially raise the amount of taxes they pay) Maybe you can identify a Democratic initiative that will cut the budget? Seems the Republicans are the only ones and maybe a few Democrats like Manchin and Conrad who are actively trying to reduce unnecessary Government funding to reduce our budget while taking a measured approach to increasing revenue without untargeted marginal tax rate increases that you canot identify who it hurts ... like most small businesses!!!

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                      #3.1 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:03 AM EDT

                      He said he wanted to keep it for "small" companies. So he wants a big company like GM to fail but wants me to keep paying a subsidy small oil companies. Any guesses as to why? And Ryans proposal is just that - a proposal. If it is adopted, you can bet your azz it won't look anything like its current set-up. And why do people like you always leave out just how much Ryans proposal adds to the deficit? And you are seriously deluding yourself if think Republicans are out to lower the deficit.

                        #3.2 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:30 PM EDT

                        "Did anyone hear him try to justify the subsidies given to oil companies in spite of their enormous profits?"

                        Are these the same subsidies that the Democratic Congress hass been passing since 2006?

                          #3.3 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:50 PM EDT

                          Yeah the Dems have been passing it because the Repukes fillibuster and force the Dems to make trade offs to keep them or haven't you been paying attention?

                            #3.4 - Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:46 AM EDT
                            Reply

                            They Ryan and GOP budget ends Medicare as we know it and replaces it with Private Sector Death Panels.

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                            Reply#4 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:37 AM EDT

                            nadeem - so what is the senates and obamas plan other than "carry on, as usual"? In numbers please, not re-election rhetoric. How about you, got any recommendations?

                            • 1 vote
                            #4.1 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:54 AM EDT

                            Well Obama's gasoline policy is "get used to the higher prices"

                            Now is that leadership or what? It kind of reminds me of "Let them eat cake"

                              #4.2 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:54 PM EDT
                              Reply

                              Surprisingly, Boehner didn't finish with "NANNY-NANNY-BOO-BOO!"

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                              Reply#5 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:37 AM EDT

                              Mr. Boehner burst into tears and cried "Obama needs to grow up, grow up, grow up, and give me what I want right now". Boehner then vowed that instead of a vote on the debt ceiling, he just might hold his breath till he turns blue. It is time to give the biggest crybaby in the Congress (Boehner) a time out.

                              • 7 votes
                              Reply#6 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:41 AM EDT

                              Actually it was more like Obama voted against raising the debt ceiling when he wa in the Senate, one of the few votes he actually made. Because he was worried about the amount of Debt the country was getting in. Now he as President has presided over the largest deficit years EVER, and they were his budgets!

                              It is time to live with in our means, we need to cut spending and ask the 50% of the households to start paying there fair share!

                                #6.1 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:02 PM EDT
                                Reply

                                Mr. Boehner appears to be " hormonal " !...lol

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                                Reply#7 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:44 AM EDT

                                Maybe he is having a difficult "manstrual" cycle, or there is a problem with his and Cantor's little "bromance". Sometimes a girl just needs a good cry.

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                                #7.1 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:09 AM EDT
                                Reply

                                who cares about the deficit? according to sen coburn even if the debt ceiling is not raised the treasury secetary will still make all interest payments. and as far as standard and poor ratings, they are in deep trouble for rating the companies which caused the crash with an AAA rating? they are all responsible for the great crash, so please don't buy that neo-con crap.

                                • 2 votes
                                Reply#8 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:47 AM EDT

                                What happened to the Republican "jobs, jobs, jobs" platform. If we had jobs, if they quit outsourcing jobs, if there were not loopholes for "real Americans" who ship jobs overseas and stash their cash in the Caymens, then our deficit would go away pretty quickly. But the Repubs continue to support anything that puts money into their pockets, and the corporate pockets, including corporate welfare, rather than caring about people.

                                Hey, Boehner, where are the jobs?!!!)((&)&&&^%#E^%#

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                                #8.1 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:57 AM EDT

                                Cathy M What a stupid comment since the dems were in control of all of congress from 2006 til 2010 and Boehner and the repubs have had only control of for a few months. I'm a bitter dem.

                                  #8.2 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:04 PM EDT
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                                  OHIO !! It's time to help American and recall John Boehner!! He's not for U.S. - I saw him in an interview and they asked him about the oil companies all time high profits and the pain the gas prices are causing Americans.

                                  Guess what folks -he defended the Oil companies and gave them excuses for gaining wind fall profits. He did not show any remorse for the average American suffering at the pump.

                                  His only concern was how high gas prices will hurt President Obama's chance for reelection!!!

                                  I told you the GOP/TP and some of their wealthy buddies - will put Americans in the GRAVE - for their political agendas.

                                  It's time to RECALL, RECALL, IMPREACH, BOYCOTT, - GOP/TP leaders more specifically ,John Boehner

                                  Americans are tired of IDIOTS and the self servinig BASTARDS like you - it time for you to go...QUIT NOW!!!!!!!

                                  TRUTH not CRAP

                                  Thank you and GOD BLESS AMERICA

                                  • 4 votes
                                  Reply#9 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:55 AM EDT

                                  Democrat and Soldier? Huuummm... just seems to be oximorons and maybe just morons if you believe this dribble!

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                                  #9.1 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:06 AM EDT
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                                  Didn't the Party of No always dismiss any talks that Pres. Obama wanted to have about Bypartisian support of "Anything"? My God, Boner, maybe you and your ilk need to grow up or shut up!

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                                  Reply#10 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:55 AM EDT

                                  and obama showed us his great prowess at being bipartisan in what way?

                                  Didn't it take obama untill 2010 to just invite either the house or senate minority leaders to the WH to ask how obama might obtain bipartisan support?

                                  http://www.newsweek.com/2010/09/12/fineman-what-went-wrong-for-obama-and-the-dems.html?GT1=43002ml

                                    #10.1 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:00 PM EDT
                                    Reply

                                    ...grow up? Look whose talking. Thanks Mr. Speaker coming from you that would quite ironical.

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                                    Reply#11 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:00 AM EDT

                                    Sen. Joe Manchan, you need to watch your tone a little bit. I know you want to get re-elected, but keep up this tripe and you will find yourself on the outside looking in. I voted for you, but will tell you one thing, if you keep being a Republican you can kiss my vote good-bye.

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                                    Reply#12 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:33 AM EDT

                                    Mr. Boehner, you say that you and Paul Ryan want to reign-in health-care costs and that the United States spends twice the amount compared with other Western Industrialized Countries? Then quit trying to overhaul Medicare and Medicaid and do something about the economic impact of Domestic Violence and Abuse.

                                    According to a report on the AVA.org website, the economic impact is between $333 and $750 billion dollars annually! This equates to between 17% and 37.5% of total annual medical costs in the US. That doesn't include the costs of the resulting disabilities to Social Security and other Federal and State programs. I'm not sure, but it sure looks a great deal larger than a mere $38 billion dollars in spending cuts you and your cronies were touting as a great success.

                                    While you are at it, look at the annual medical economic impact of (in $billions):

                                    1. Divorce - $33
                                    2. Vehicle Crashes - $100
                                    3. Unpaid Health-care Costs - $199
                                    4. Obesity - $45

                                    That's nearly $400 billion dollars a year! The list is incomplete and could easily become expansive.

                                    In the 1950s and 60s, the Republicans were all for appropriating fiscal resources (spending) in order to "serve the public" through federal government programs (big government) designed to specifically address these kinds of issues. They might have been "spending fools!" but at least they had a degree of compassion for those they served (hint).

                                    Mr. Boehner, perform the duties that the American People expect from you and stop giving advice to others that you yourself should take into consideration.

                                      Reply#13 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:34 AM EDT

                                      Home prices ebb further as industry struggles...change you can DEFINETLY believe in!

                                        Reply#14 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:41 AM EDT

                                        Both sides need to grow up. The public is so far ahead of the idiots in Washington that I can't decide if we should laugh at them or cry about it. The vast majority of the public knows that entitlements need to be reformed -- not eliminated as the house voted but reformed. The public also knows that taxes are going to have to be increased.

                                        • 3 votes
                                        Reply#15 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:53 AM EDT

                                        I read somewhere, I think the Huffington Post, that the GOP plan is something called "Starve the Beast". If there is no money coming into the the treasury, then you have to limit what you allocate to the various departments of the federal government. If you're the party in power, then you go after the programs you hate most, EPA, HCR, Medicaid and Medicare, etc. You defund them cause "there's no money". Part of Starving the Beast means you have to keep revenues low and that means keeping tax revenues at a minimuim. You don't want to bring 14 trillion into the treasury by taxing the top 1% of Americans at 39% or repeal the Bush tax cuts. Nooooo way...the beast gets fed....you don't have a leg to stand on. It's not fiscal security they are trying to improve, it"s pure and simple partisan politics. Yeah, the GOP is trying to save this country...What a lie...a huge misconception that repeated over and over, people believe like HCR is NOT good for you or there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq or reducing the deficit will create jobs. One person explain how reducing the deficit will create jobs. In fact, reducing the deficit will create a money crunch so no one can borrow. Not lifting the debt ceiling will cause the US to default on its obligations and cause world wide economic chaos. Fact..not reated lies that are NOT refuted.

                                        • 3 votes
                                        Reply#16 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:57 AM EDT

                                        And somewhere Lewis Carroll is talking to the Queen of Hearts. I hate using strong language but this whole debate is inane. "I'm giving up cake for Lent, even though I'm snowed in and the only thing left in the cabin is cake." Obama needs to come back with the 3 legged stool analogy - we can't cut our way out of the deficit without fundamentally changing who we are as a nation and what the majority of us believe is the responsibility of government. Those who do not want to engage in that debate are the ones who want to engage in class warfare by separating us as a nation and ignoring our common goals. You can't gimmick us out of the deficit - it will take real cuts to real programs including defense and subsidies in the form of tax breaks to favored businesses. Tying the hands of future Congresses with spending caps will create simply more gridlock than already exists and will prevent future generations from addressing national emergencies whether they be wars, recessions or natural disasters. And lastly, all of the commissions have said that we will also need increased revenues. Many call for shared sacrifice, but refuse to discuss the increased revenue part of the equation. They want to cut programs now and immediately, and offer only a frequently disproved theory that at some point in the future there will be increased tax revenues because of an improving economy. Yet, even Paul Ryan's plan doesn't even promise this. You say, cut. I say cut what? In the case of Sen. Manchin, he really is cutting off his nose to spite his face. It's not like West VA doesn't depend on federal programs. Again please excuse the hyperbole, but it really is dumb white people voting against their own economic interest.

                                        • 2 votes
                                        Reply#17 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:25 AM EDT

                                        Listening to Speaker Boehner preach about deficits and debt is hypocrisy of the highest order; 235 of his GOP House party voted for the Ryan plan which increases the debt by nearly $6 trillion dollars which will require increasing the debt ceiling numerous times. Ryan's plan balances the budget in 72 years! Perhaps Boehner should "grow up". It would be nice if just once, the GOP took responsibility for their role in the deficit and debt mess created by their unfunded spending from 2001 through 2008. Anyone who tells our President to grow up but voted to take a budget surplus and turn it into budget busting debt by charging everything is not a leader let alone a "grown up".

                                        • 5 votes
                                        Reply#18 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:45 AM EDT

                                        so jody, what is the senates and obamas plan? Business as usual?

                                          #18.1 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:13 PM EDT
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                                          Anybody following Tom Colburn right now? Holy cow!

                                            Reply#19 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:51 PM EDT

                                            the 112th congressional democrats attempt to attach EPA regulations to the 2011 budget.

                                            the 112th congressional republicans attempt to attach abortion restrictions to the 2011 budget.

                                            both parties are so unwilling to compromise or budge that they - LITERALLY - disrupted the entire military's paychecks, reducing their pay by 50% for one pay period. even though they were running almost 9 months late drafting the 2011 budget.

                                            with Speaker Boehner setting the example for the rest of the Congress to follow.

                                            and this guy has the sack to proclaim that OBAMA needs to grow up??!

                                            all I can say is that it takes one to know one, John.

                                            • 1 vote
                                            Reply#20 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:10 PM EDT

                                            I will never understand why the Republicans, who consider themselves God's chosen and Christians, are against every social program for those less fortunate. They are obviously not interested in being their "brother's keeper." I know that there are some who try to take advantage of the system and get something for nothing, but the vast majority do not, and sincerely need help...where are the Republicans?

                                            • 4 votes
                                            Reply#21 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:35 PM EDT

                                            Am I the only one that thinks Sen Joe Manchin should have R behind his name? Why do the Democratic Party allow Republicans to masquerade as Democrats. I think Manchin should just switch parties, but no one call him out on his very extreme Conservative views.

                                            • 2 votes
                                            Reply#22 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:48 PM EDT

                                            Mr. Pot ... I mean Speaker of the House, now what were you saying about raising the debt ceiling? The Kettle, ... that is, the President will get back to you about the budget, as soon as he knows about the cash flow, and how the country is to pay for anything.

                                              Reply#23 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:41 PM EDT

                                               John Boehner and the rest of the Republicant idiots are just plain crazy and stupid or a bunch of calculated and crooked individuals.  I think the latter applies.  They, the Republicants, need to "grow up," or GET OUT!

                                              They gave endless carte blanche to Cheney and Bush and got us into this mess.  Enough of the tax breaks for the big corps and the rich, tax the hell out of them!

                                                Reply#24 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:54 PM EDT

                                                Boehner and the rest of the Republicants are a bunch of idiotic crooks. They gave complete carte blanche to Cheney and Bush and got us into this mess. No more tax breaks for the corps or the rich, tax the hell out of them. Republicants, either do your job or GET OUT!

                                                  Reply#25 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:55 PM EDT
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