Peacetime?

Earlier today, we briefly mentioned Mitt Romney's op-ed in the Union Leader, which criticized President Obama on the economy.

But this paragraph won't bolster the one-term governor's foreign-policy or national-security credentials. (Emphasis below is ours.)

Barack Obama is facing a financial emergency on a grander scale. Yet his approach has been to engage in one of the biggest peacetime spending binges in American history. With its failed stimulus package, its grandiose new social programs, its fervor for more taxes and government regulations, and its hostility toward business, the administration has made the debt problem worse, hindered economic recovery and needlessly cost American workers countless jobs.

As Steve Benen points out, the U.S. is currently engaged in wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and is involved in a multinational effort in Libya.

First Read has reached out to Romney's campaign team for a response. We've yet to hear back. 

*** UPDATE *** A Romney spokeswoman tells us, "He meant to say since World War II."

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Romney's wrong.

President Obama is a war President.

The Iraq War...?

Clearly, not of his choosing.

Afghanistan...going back to the 2008 campaign, clearly a war of his choosing.

Libya?

You decide.

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#1 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:51 PM EDT

You decide.

I'll have jasmine with two lumps, please. And a crumpet on the side, if it's not too much trouble.

Just practicing for Friday. What-ho, cheerio. Pip, pip, and all that.

Oh, you were talking about war?

Never mind.

I'll take Afghanistan for $200, please. Question: What could be more embarrassing than a whole bunch of Taliban prisoners escaping through a hole in the ground?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/25/afghanistan-great-escape-taliban

Answer: Well, I guess this means there's more than 100 Taliban left in Afghanistan, doesn't it?

Okay, I've decided now. Get the Heck out of There.

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#1.1 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:01 PM EDT

First Read has reached out to Romney's campaign team for a response. We've yet to hear back.

Good Luck!

*Wink* Marindale is frantically trying to figure out which way the political winds are blowing at the moment!

The only person who flip flops more than Romney is McCain!

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#1.2 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:08 PM EDT

Romney must read MSNBC. How would it not sound like "peacetime" from reading the articles here at FR?

All the Donald Trump stories ...... who knew?

From MSNBC's coverage, Libya sounded like one of Obama's pick-up basketball games, kinda just disappeared from coverage.

Afghanistan?

Who knew that this past March was the deadliest March of the entire war for American soldiers!

Who knew that this April is the deadliest April of the entire for American soldiers!

Good job MSNBC.

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#1.3 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:21 PM EDT

Romney will be for the wars and then against them and for them again.

Flip flop alert......just saying.

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#1.4 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:22 PM EDT

Donald Trump is an equal opportunity flip flopper just like Romney and McCain.

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#1.5 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:26 PM EDT

I don't believe anyone flip-flops more than Romney. The clarification of "peacetime" will be another flip-flop. Classic Romney. My bet is he will say someone else penned the op-ed. Any takers.

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#1.6 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:26 PM EDT

Anna Molly-

I think you might be getting too much royal wedding coverage..toxic levels of coverage, actually.

President Obama's been in charge of Afghanistan for quite a while now...

Shouldn't you be informing him of your decision to "Get the Heck out of there"?

Good luck getting past Susan Rice, Hillary Clinton, and Robert Gates, though.

And, good luck pressing President Obama to make any decision on anything...anytime, anywhere.

He's no "cowboy", is he?

lol

Enjoy.

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#1.7 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:37 PM EDT

This JUST IN:

Boss Hog is shrewd enough NOT to make a bid for the White House!

Another one bites the dust...

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#1.8 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:37 PM EDT

Oh my God, he said "peacetime" instead of "wartime" and is getting skewered over it? I don't remember seeing any articles when Stephanopoulis had to correct Obama when he said "my Muslim faith" instead of "my Christian faith." But that was an honest mistake, ok...

However, it's easy to see how Romney could feel like we're currently in "peacetime." I mean after all, when Bush was president, we had an article on MSNBC, CNN, ABC and all the other "mainstream" media sites every single day to report on another soldier returning home in a coffin. However, that all changed the minute Obama took office. I believe I could probably count the number of Iraq or Afghanistan-related articles that have been written since Obama became President on both hands, no doubt to give the impression that things over there are going so much better now since Obama took over! And people like to say that all of these news agencies are "fair and balanced?"

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#1.9 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:40 PM EDT

Romney should fire whoever he had write that op-ed.

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#1.10 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:41 PM EDT

Romney probably developed his op-ed by reading through Obama's campaign and fund raising speeches from last week, or by watching the major news outlets that continually ignore the wars. Couldn't tell from those speeches or from that news coverage that we're at war.

Barack H. Obama: Warmonger

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#1.11 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:50 PM EDT

Looks like somebody could us a ....a......Tele-Prom-Ter?

Either that, or maybe it was just a case of the statement not being 'intedned to be factual'. A lot of that going around, I hear.

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#1.12 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:04 PM EDT

AM, Any word on what Michelle will be wearing to the wedding ceremony? I heard they plan to give the Royal couple a copy of Obama's speachs as a gift. They can go off in marital bliss knowing that the earth is healing and the oceans are receding.

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#1.13 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:06 PM EDT

yeah, Joanna, right.... when not generalizing you're deflecting....how about directing us all to your post about George W. Bush: warmonger.....or isn't there one?

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#1.14 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:14 PM EDT

Anyone who can not discern the difference between peacetime and a state of war should not be allowed to be Commander in Chief!

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#1.15 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:14 PM EDT

Mixed Bag,where is your brain today? The war was already there when Obama was elected. He has not been able to end it because of the Rethuglican Generals. The Generals would be out of a job and the corrupt bullet makers would not be making big money off of the American taxpayers. Ask McCain,he ditched two Aircraft because he was as incompetent as George Bush 11. As for Barbour,Palin taught him how to quit. He will now support whoever the corrupt rethugs put out front. Barbour will have all the Mississippi KKK and Skinheads walking around with Palin target's putting them on anyone's back they don't like.

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#1.16 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:15 PM EDT

Bob Hall-

You need a refresher course on the 2008 election campaign.

Candidate Obama said:

Iraq is wrong.

Afghanistan is right.

Look it up, Bob.

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#1.17 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:24 PM EDT

Candidate Obama said:

Iraq is wrong.

Afghanistan is right.

And Libya is the cherry on top of the sundae!

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#1.18 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:41 PM EDT

Bob Hall. Are the Generals bossing around the Commander in Chief an example of "leading from Behind" ?

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#1.19 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:15 PM EDT

Candidate Obama said:

Iraq is wrong.

Afghanistan is right.

Does that mean that Afghanistan will always be right?

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#1.20 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:28 PM EDT

Geez, does it get much more embarrassing than that? If this is as accurate as Romney plans on being, his campaign is not going to last long.

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#1.21 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:29 PM EDT

Bag Boy:

I think you might be getting too much royal wedding coverage..toxic levels of coverage, actually....

You live in your fantasy world, cowboy, and I'll live in mine.

And if the twain shall chance to meet ....

Well, you're right. LoL ;-)

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#1.22 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:37 PM EDT

People, get a grip (or at least buy a dictionary).

We are not at war.

During Obama's presidency we are:

1) not at war with Iraq. The Iraqii government and people are considered our OFFICIAL allies.

2) not at war with Afghanistan: The Afghanii people and government are our OFFICIAL allies.

3) not officially at war with Libya, though we have attacked their government's military.

One should not confuse a police/military action with 'war', otherwise, we are also at war with Mexico, Central America and much of South America also.

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#1.23 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:23 PM EDT

That's the thing about "peacetime". You blink and you missed it.

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#1.24 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:24 PM EDT

Joanna?? have missed seeing your more uneducated posts on here. I got suspended for calling you a name so will refrain from that and just think cuss words in my head when it comes to you.

Just a refresher for you... listen hard... I'll not use any big words....

Bushwhacked started the largest war based on lies, bad intelligence, etc. Costs thousands of lives. Rumsburger screwed us all by first GOING to war, then not sending our troops to "the right place" which was afganistan. All the Taliban were THERE.. not in Iraq. There were SOME troops there due to Bush, but Obama decided to fight terrorism in "the right place" which was Afganistan and increased the troops. Why do you all think they aren't reporting deaths? I read the SAME story you did about the month being the deadliest, just as I read the stats in Iraq when it was at its worst.

Libya is another matter. One could say Hitler wouldn't have killed the millions if someone had stepped in earlier for humanitarian reasons and not said "we have no national interest in what is going on".

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#1.25 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:43 PM EDT

"Not meant to be a factual statement"

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#1.26 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:52 PM EDT

Send in the drones. The Pakistanis are just grateful someone else gets to enjoy the fun.

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#1.27 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:59 PM EDT

You know it is funny, but when you look at in the sense of "war" then Romney is right, since the last official war declaration was WWII (). All US combat senerios since have been based on declarations, but not "declarations of war."

Just food for thought.

    #1.28 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:47 AM EDT
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    To First Read: Have I missed something? Is there no thread about the Supreme Court refusing to accept the HCR case? Not to co-opt this thread, but don't you think someone should cover this?

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    Reply#2 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:55 PM EDT

    Anna

    It isn't that the Supreme Court has refused to hear the case, it is that they refused to allow the entire judicial process to be subverted by fast tracking it straight to the supreme court.

    There are many reasons that they could have decided to not allow it to be fast tracked, one of which is that as a non fact finding court, there just may not be enough information for a decision to be made that would come out of the lower courts. (I don't know if this is the case, or even partly the case however).

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    #2.1 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:13 PM EDT
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    #2.2 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:16 PM EDT

    @ Jonathan ~ The Courts of Appeals are not fact-finding courts, either. Which makes me think that delay is what they are really attempting to achieve. Or maybe they just don't like the questions presented in the Virginia case and are waiting for more cases to mature. At some point, however, they have to take it because there is currently a split -- or maybe they're hoping the circuits will resolve the split, and they can then refuse to take it so they won't have to face the Clarence Thomas recusal question.

    Because they certainly don't want to face the recusal question in the summer of 2012. That would not be helpful for republicans.

    @ Feisty ~ Thank you. I just missed it, then. No big surprise there. ;-)

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    #2.3 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:27 PM EDT
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    Romney should wear flip-flops 24/7.

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    Reply#3 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:58 PM EDT

    I agree. One pink and one blue, exchangeable from foot to foot. With a big, fluffy bath Mitt.

    Made in America, of course. If he can find such a thing.

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    #3.1 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:10 PM EDT

    Romneycare might disqualify him for 2012.

    Obamacare might disqualify someone as well.

    How about both?

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    #3.2 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:44 PM EDT

    Yeah, I guess that is why he didn't refer to the healthcare program directly. Hits too close to home.

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    #3.3 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:29 PM EDT
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    Oh the poor dear.... god bless his lil republican brain ... sounds like mitt has his boxers in a twist !...How can you take this man seriously ? He is like the "FRUMP" who's detectives didn't seem to find anything.. on Obama !

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    Reply#4 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:58 PM EDT

    What's the difference between the Donald and the Mittster? One has a dead squirrel on his head, and the other has a dead squirrel in his... OH, never mind! My comment will be removed if I should dare to complete it!

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    #4.1 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:23 PM EDT
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    ...and the inaccuracies are?

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    Reply#5 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:03 PM EDT

    Don't know about inaccuracies, but here's another omission: He left out that Massachusetts, under his administration, provided the model for those "grandiose new social programs" that President Obama has initiated.

    Love that particular tag line. Expect to hear it again.

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    #5.1 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:08 PM EDT

    Mitt Romney, who wants to be President {a leader}, now finds himself in a position of explaining why he thinks it's a bad idea to provide health care for the poor and elderly.

    How ironic.

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    #5.2 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:24 PM EDT

    ...and the inaccuracies are?

    drumroll please.....

    1. one of the biggest peacetime spending binges in American history..... Obama is a wartime president, thanks to Curious George

    2. failed stimulus package....actually without the stimulus package the economy would have gone off the cliff, the only people the stimulus failed are republicans.

    3. its grandiose new social programs - health care for citizens is only considered "grandiose" by republicans in this country, elsewhere in the developed world it is considered a right of citizens and an obligation of the government. In any case, the Health Care REFORM Act is anything but grandiose.

    4. its fervor for more taxes and government regulations - I guess he means we shouldn't try to protect our environment from assclowns like BP or other corporations that would rape our land and sell razor blades to children if they could get away with it. Sorry, even corporations and the wealthy have to pay into the kitty, might be inconvenient, but it is necessary.

    5. Hostility towards business - Give me an example....any example. If you mean it's a bad thing requiring corporations to follow the law, pay their fair share of taxes and other obligations, then let us be bad.

    You know what, it might be easier if you can just tell us what was correct about Romney's statement.

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    #5.3 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:36 PM EDT

    OK it's official, drano and drive-by are dead even in my hero of the month club. Just a few more days guys. You've both been very, very good so far so its looking to be a record month.

    And I've already decided that bob, JAS1, spanky and joe are in an unbreakable tie for dumb-azzez of the month. Congratulations.

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    #5.4 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:30 PM EDT

    Well lookie here, buzz and drano have a little groupie!

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    #5.5 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:56 PM EDT

    dEJAVU- Where did I see this very same 'groupie' post from Feisty earlier today???

    Yer a real original, there, Smiff.

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    #5.6 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:11 PM EDT

    Where did I see this very same 'groupie' post from Feisty earlier today???

    You sure did - this coming from the broad who was hollering about 'plagiarism' earlier this morning!

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    #5.7 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:14 PM EDT
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    Hey Mitt..take the course The Great Depression 101. Find out what caused it and how the failure of the government to insert money into the economy exacerbated it.

    Not new taxes Mitt...repeal the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest 1% of Americans and raise the marginal rate in these people 3% and thus put 14 trillion dollars into the economy.

    Hey...aren't you the guy who installed a single payer health care system in Massachusetts?

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    Reply#6 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:06 PM EDT

    Ira Lapin

    The Great Depression 101? This guy's brain-Mush.........how's he going to learn. I think, seriously, he might equal sarah palin in abject stupidity.

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    #6.1 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:34 PM EDT
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    does he have an underage daughter that letterman can joke about having an affair with a professional athlete?

    wouldn't that be so funny?

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    Reply#7 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:10 PM EDT

    Not sure what that has to do with Romney, mitch j, but it could be funny, I guess, if he did have such a daughter, and Mitt exploited her for publcity like one might with a 'rag dol'l of a Down's Syndrome baby on a campaign tour.

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    #7.1 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:11 PM EDT
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    Yet his approach has been to engage in one of the biggest peacetime spending binges in American history. With its failed stimulus package, its grandiose new social programs, its fervor for more taxes and government regulations, and its hostility toward business, the administration has made the debt problem worse, hindered economic recovery and needlessly cost American workers countless jobs.

    In 2001, George W. Bush faithfully carried out the first phase of that war on American democracy: following the extremist ideology which holds that all taxation is tyrannical theft —the American revolutionaries resisted taxation without representation, not taxation itself—, Bush looted the treasury and gave a projeced $1.7 trillion surplus to the riches of the rich.

    The result of this was the demand for more money. In 2003, the cuts were expanded, and the federal government was plunged into a long-term debt crisis the likes of which it had never seen. With no surplus in good times, the government was then fiscally unprepared for the desperate needs of hard times, when the entire banking sector, and the countries biggest industrial corporations, were suddenly at risk of total collapse.

    The Republican solution? Once again, to give unprecedented sums of taxpayer wealth to the richest of the rich. Between his tax cuts, his unfunded wars and the TARP bailout, George W. Bush oversaw the single most massive deliberate transfer of wealth in the history of humanity. And every time, it was free money for those who don’t need it.

    The hypocrisy is obvious, and shabby and should be recognized. But what is more important is the manner in which this whole transfer of wealth derailed the US economy. If we are honest, we can stop expressing surprise about the Great Recession, stop pretending the jobs recovery has been slower than expected, and stop pretending any of this has to do with Barack Obama.

    http://www.casavaria.com/cafesentido/2011/04/03/8020/norquist-bush-ryan-how-conservative-ideology-is-destroying-middle-class-america/

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    Reply#8 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:12 PM EDT

    Excellent post and points, Pat B. You've said it perfectly.

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    #8.1 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:38 PM EDT

    Thanks Jody. Just to be clear, none of the text is mine; it's part of a much larger article referenced. Probably the best written article I've come across in a long long long time to explain exactly what Norquist/Bush did. To the detriment of all of us.

    I intend to use this article whenever appropriate.

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    #8.2 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:45 PM EDT

    problem is Pat, the Repubs will not read something that long (ADD) and if they did, they would dispute it because, you know, they know it all and the experts know nothing. They cant deal with those pesky facts.

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    #8.3 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:58 PM EDT

    Pat, Boston, MA

    Thanks Jody. Just to be clear, none of the text is mine; it's part of a much larger article referenced. Probably the best written article I've come across in a long long long time to explain exactly what Norquist/Bush did. To the detriment of all of us.

    I intend to use this article whenever appropriate.

    Perhaps you can also explain why a Democratic congress was complicit with Bush 2001-2003 and 2007-2009. The article constantly references the 8 years of Bush. I hope your indictment includes the Pelosi years of 2007-2011 which continued the Bush tax rates, and in 2010 when they were extended. I assume you include President Obama as a participant in the war on the middle class as he agreed to their extension?

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    #8.4 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:43 PM EDT

    Perhaps you can also explain why a Democratic congress was complicit with Bush 2001-2003 and 2007-2009. The article constantly references the 8 years of Bush

    @Alan does this ring any bells...

    "You're either with us or against us"

    "If your not wirh us you're one of the evil doers"

    "You're not patriotic"

    The Bush administration milked 911 for everything it was worth when it came to browbeating the other side. As far as continuing the Bush tax cuts, Bush would have veto'd any bill that came across his desk, aside from which the bill was supposed to sunset, and who exactly stopped the sunset from happening.....the GOP.

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    #8.5 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:19 PM EDT

    And I guess they continued to milk 9-11 from January 2009 through January 2011? ....oh wait a minute

    As I have said many times we are now in our 11th year of Bush

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    #8.6 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:33 PM EDT

    After 11 years, I know I'm bushed! I say, just send every American soldier out into the world to fight any 'bad guy' that a superior officer says is a 'bad guy' and don't come back until you're in a coffin. If you're lucky, you'll get a few vacations with your family.

    Oh wait, I guess by doing that it would require no change in current orders. My bad.

      #8.7 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:48 PM EDT
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      Technically, we are in "peace time". We are only in "war time" when their is an actual declaration of war from congress.

        Reply#9 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:13 PM EDT

        Under the Emergenxy Powers Act doesn't the President have the power to go to war for 90 days without a Declaratiion of War by Congress? In effect this Act negates the need for Congress to declare war.

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        #9.1 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:20 PM EDT

        Well, a technicality doesn't pay the trillion dollar cost of those technically undeclared Bush/Cheney wars nor does it make sense to the families of the over 4 thousand dead Americans fighting them. Romney may claim a technicality for his "misspeak" but war is war and we've been in Afghanistan and Iraq for 10 and 8 years, declared or not.

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        #9.2 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:44 PM EDT

        Jody...I'm on your side. was just correcting David-1565273. Tell the families of the 4,450 service people that died in Iraq it was not a war.

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        #9.3 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:51 PM EDT

        Amazing! Now you and the Mittster make two (2). You 2 are the only 2 people an America that can't discern the difference between peace and war. Did you miss the news about the Americans that died in the Attack on the twin towers in New York? Did you miss the news when George Bush invaded Afghanistan? Do you know that Americans are still fighting and dieing there even today? Did you miss the news when George Bush invaded Iraq? Do you know that Americans are still fighting and dieing there even today? Did you miss the news when Obama committed American forces to the defense of the Libyan Citizens? By my count, that's not 3 "peace times". I count 3 wars!

        Of course, were anyone to challenge any of these wars, you would be the first to condemn them as unpatriotic! And you would accuse them on not supporting the troops. I accuse you for not supporting the American troops that are fighting and dieing in these wars. Shame on you!!!

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        #9.4 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:02 PM EDT

        You would call them wars executed under the War Powers Act and not Wars delclared by Congress. Wars non the same but the only distinction made here is that they were NOT declared by Congress as required by the Constitution. BTW...the attack on the WTC was an act of war. Can you tell me by whom..what country? Who were we to declare war on? The Taliban did not attack the US...AlQueda did. It's just not that simple.

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        #9.5 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:51 AM EDT
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        Wasn't it Romney who said the jobs weren't coming back?

        March 24, 2011 -

        Speaking to union members at strategy conference in Detroit, United Auto Workers vice president Joe Ashton said that GM is rehiring about 2000 laid-off workers and will be back to full employment by September.

        .com/features/news/2011/163_news110324_gm_rehiring_laid_off_workers/index.htmlhttp://www.trucktrend

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        Reply#10 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:20 PM EDT

        Good one. Yes, Romney did say that.

        Donald Trump plans to bring all those jobs back by just telling China and India, if he were President, that the US is taking those jobs back--ignoring, of course, the fact that the President or the US Government do not own any of the companies who shipped them overseas in the first place. But it will sell with people who don't bother to think about it.

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        #10.1 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:48 PM EDT
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        I am sure Romney will change his stance on this......He has on everything else!

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        Reply#11 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:22 PM EDT

        Wow.......what a DEM & LIBBER feeding frenzy.....I haven't seen this many "piranha" who just love to tear em up in the blog waters since Citizen Sarah Palin went to Israel to pick up a coupla hot knishes...Ha!Ha!Ha!.....Gee......Feisty Redhead.....I have heard many in the press in recent months apply the term "flip-flop" more often than not to OBAMA........what is up with that.....go figure...........

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        Reply#12 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:23 PM EDT

        It's part of our 'don't worry-be happy' dance.

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        #12.1 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:13 PM EDT
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        Ha! Even when he tries to discuss serious issues, Romney or his advisers get things messed up. Romney, "peacetime" in wartime, stimulus didn't work despite the many, many economists who indicate that the Stimulus did stop the bleeding and prevented a second Great Depresstion; anti-Obamacare but pro-Romneycare; pro-choice before being pro-life. It seems the GOP/TP's talking points are stale and obviously they have no new ideas for anything beyond tax cuts for the rich and small government--neither of which works economically as proven by Reagan, Bush 41 and Bush 43--trickle down never trickles down but it does create huge deficits and debt.

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        Reply#13 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:25 PM EDT

        All's fair to a used car salesman!

          #13.1 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:08 PM EDT
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          Pat, That is just a drop in the bucket in the auto industry. There were 1500 layoffs here in my area alone. That is a start but a long way to go to regaining all the jobs.

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          Reply#14 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:26 PM EDT

          Actually Romney is relfective of his party...they want to pretend there is no war when it comes to any sacrifice on their part...no service or war taxes for MittFlip or most Republicans...they wave flags good though

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          Reply#15 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:29 PM EDT

          Bush was the first in US history to reduce income taxes during a time of war, Republican Congress was the second.

          The rich won't send their children to fight and die, but they'll take a tax break instead if you please.

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          #15.1 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:42 PM EDT

          Former President Ronald Reagan also reduced taxes while increasing his "cold war" efforts in Afghanistan and spending like crazy on our military. Technically we were not at war but Reagan's spending was huge and he left a giant deficit and debt for Bush 41 and Clinton to clean up because of his tax cuts benefiting mostly the wealthy.

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          #15.2 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:55 PM EDT
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          It's pretty apparent that Mitt Romney has been out of touch a few years. He could have provided a commentary of Health Care all the way throughthe debate and didn't. He could have provided a commentary on theRyan plan frame work as a financial and business analyst based on his Bain Captial manaagement experience. During the auto takeover debate-you never heard from Romney whose family helped build the industry.

          Where was Mitt?

          A guy who can't tell peace from war shouldn't be Presdient of anything...

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          Reply#16 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:31 PM EDT

          Arlin, It's as though Romney wants the presidency so much it interferes with his judgement. Like a man who loves a woman so much he drives her away....

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          #16.1 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:03 PM EDT
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          Romney gets into trouble whenever he tries to act like a politician (which is way too often). If he'd just stick to facts and figures and boring stuff like how to achieve real deficit reduction, he'd have a lot better chance. Obama proved that you don't need a winning personality to win the white house. Romney's a light weight when it comes to hurling political mud balls because he dosen't really believe in them. In trying to be all things, he's being nothing. Too bad because Romney's got better executive chops than any of the other candidates.

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          Reply#17 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:43 PM EDT

          Back at Mitt, every word he said is exactly what the "Republicons" did to our countryplus, apparently he like the other Republicons, are still pretending to have amnesia. Cleaning up a "Mess" is a complicated Job!

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          Reply#18 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:44 PM EDT

          True, June FL. Especially a mess the size Bush and the GOP left. Amnesia is a good word but I prefer outright fraud against the public--two unfunded wars, unfunded Rx drug program placing additional monetary strain on medicare, tax cuts for the rich, financial collapse of Wall street, near total collapse of the US and Global economies and the list goes on.

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          #18.1 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:01 PM EDT
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          Wow - that statement was full of so much CRAP that it more than just stink!

          Are the GOP/TP going to continue to lie to America?

          With Romeny having access to the Conservative Media he wont be call out on these lies?

          Then other Media would print or show it but get no return response - and he accomplishes want he wants both ways - what are you STUPID or in conlusion?

          This was obvious a blatant lies in hope of the Media giving it some air-time in an attempt to reach the less informed.

          My question to you Mitt Romney - since you claims to know all of Obama's faults and he's the blame according to your BS statment.

          Tell U.S. why the GOP/TP did nothing to HELP him clean up their MESS!!! Most importantly - do you intend lie until election time? - then never tell U.S. anything about what you would do differently?

          You GOP/TP accept no accountibility or responsiblity and you have new no ideas...and you are full of CRAP!!!

          America gets smarter and smarter politically by the day - and we are tired of hearing you kids...blame each other for the mess George Bush - a REPBULICAN caused...

          and how the GOP/TP wants to play U.S. like fools and treat U.S. as if we are too Stupid to understand the causes...

          We see the GOP/TP playing politics with our lives and making it harder for U.S. to live in an effort to stop President Obama from being reelected.

          It won't work!!! too bad our Media plays more towards ratings than truth...we as Americans would be better informed and better off...

          Mitt Romney - you can't win by lying to U.S. and apparently - that's all you have. So do U.S. a favor;

          save your money and stop wasting our time - and go away!

          P.S. Mitt if you really care about America and it's direction...ask your buddies on Wall Street to quit jacking up the gas prices - you baffoons prefer to hurt America's pockets- just to gain policital points against the President.

          Shameless Bastards!!!

          TRUTH - not CRAP

          Thank you and GOD BLESS AMERICA

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          Reply#19 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:46 PM EDT

          McCain never fought IN a war, only flew over Vietnam, dropped his bombs and, except for one time, flew back to an aircraft carrier to enjoy the comforts of a hot shower, hot meals, soft bed and daily contact with his wife (who he later abandoned for a trophy rich, iceberg). Yes, his imprisionment was horrific but McCain, reportedly, 'broke' early under interrogation, spilled his guts out to the North Vietnames, signed an admission that he was a 'war criminal' and became known as 'tweety' because he 'sang' so much for his captive - to get better treatment for his medical conditions. Had a 'grunt' done that he would have been court martialed upon his return home, not treated like a hero. McCain knows how to 'work the system', from prisons to politics. Romney just is clueless. I'm sure the heroes in Afhganistan, Iraq, doing the job that politicians have sent them out to do, would be a bit surprised that they are at 'peace'.

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          Reply#20 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:46 PM EDT

          ...and your source is?

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          #20.1 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:26 PM EDT

          Kilo 6: McCain never fought IN a war, only flew over Vietnam, dropped his bombs and, except for one time, flew back to an aircraft carrier to enjoy the comforts of a hot shower, hot meals, soft bed and daily contact with his wife (who he later abandoned for a trophy rich, iceberg).

          You should be the featured speaker at a local VFW. You can tell the pilots there that they didn't fight in any wars. All that anti-aircraft gunfire, that doesn't mean anything. Night flying. Night take offs and landings on carriers, that was nothing, carrying tons of ordnance on their wings, child's play. And the in country supply people of the infantry, they didn't fight in a war either, they were far away from the action. And the Navy crews on the ships, they weren't even in country, so they're worse than the supply liners.

          And I'm certain there will be people like John McCain there. Injuried so badly in battle or as POWs that they can't lift their arms above their shoulders. You be sure to tell them how they didn't fight in the war.

          Let us know how your speech goes.

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          #20.2 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:49 PM EDT

          You may Google "Songbird (not 'Tweety') McCain" any time. Some few things are obvious about Senator McCain and are a matter of public record, the most striking of which is that he graduated dead last in his class at Annapolis. I realize someone had to be there, but if that were a Medical School would you want # Last working on/with you? My understanding of his arm injuries is that he did not correctly protect his body during his ejection, done, by some accounts, in somewhat of a panic. He was not into learning, apparently, and it showed in how he flew and comported himself both in and out of the cockpit as a US Naval Aviator.

          History will have to wait to decide if he really is entitled to the claim of "War Hero" or not.

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          #20.3 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:17 AM EDT
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          If Mitt Romney runs, it's four more years. It's not just that he's a flip-flopping revisionista, but I don't think the Christian Right is ready to embrace a Mormon once they figure out what Mormon beliefs entail (I'm not saying one is right and one is wrong, simply that they are incompatible).

          • 2 votes
          Reply#21 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:48 PM EDT

          "I will not be a candidate for president next year. This has been a difficult, personal decision, and I am very grateful to my family for their total support of my going forward, had that been what I decided."

          Translate: There's no way in hell GOP will unseat Obama in 2012. I am saving my money for 2016 to run.

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          Reply#22 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:56 PM EDT

          Well, don't you know? It's always peacetime for the upper class! They don't fight the wars with their blood and broken bodies. They leave that dirty and bloody wartime job for the lower and middle classes. It's always peacetime for the upper class! While it's wartime for the lower classes, the upper classes just collect their peacetime profits from the broken bodies of the lesser classes!

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          Reply#23 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:58 PM EDT

          I read somewhere that Trump is hinting at running with McCain,

          Is that true,

          OMG the two of em??????????????

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          Reply#24 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:06 PM EDT

          Romney has zero credibility. This guy flip flops more than beach sandals.

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          Reply#25 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:09 PM EDT

          The Mittster flip flops more that my car's windshield wipers in a winter Nor'easter!

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          #25.1 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:13 PM EDT

          So when will Romney start to go after the African American and Hispanic voter. I think he will need some of us to win. Maybe he thinks he can do it without us? "McCain thought so!!" oops "He Loss".

          Dear Mr Romney Please do not go after the African American and Hispanic voter's; You will do just fine.

            #25.2 - Mon Jun 6, 2011 4:59 PM EDT
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