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President Obama addresses the crowd during a town hall meeting at Facebook headquarters in Palo Alto, Calif. on Wednesday. (AP)
From NBC's Athena Jones
PALO ALTO, Calif. -- President Barack Obama continued his push to sell what he calls his 'balanced' approach to deficit-cutting with an event at Facebook headquarters on Wednesday.
The town hall, which was moderated by the company's co-founder and CEO Mark Zuckerberg, was the second one this week meant to highlight the president's plan to cut $4 trillion from the deficit over the next 12 years without making the kind of deep budget cuts Republicans have proposed. The president is set to hold a similar town hall tomorrow in Reno, NV.
Calling the plan passed by the Republican-controlled House of Representatives not "bold" or courageous, but "fairly radical" and "short-sighted", the president also argued it would be bad for the economy.
"The deficit could actually get worse, because we could slip back into another recession," Obama told the crowd, explaining what would happen if deficit reduction leads to cuts in economically vital areas like education, infrastructure and clean energy.
The event streamed live online and included questions from the audience and the web.
While the president's remarks broke no new ground -- with most of the questions and all of the answers fitting in nicely with the president's usual talking points -- it did offer the administration a chance to connect with people using technology and the cache of a web site that is wildly popular among young people and increasingly popular among older web users.
It's all part of the administration's effort to show voters -- many of whom are concerned about the nation's growing deficit -- that putting the country's fiscal house in order is among the president's top concerns. Obama said he did not want to leave getting the deficit and debt under control to the next president.
The White House took issue earlier Wednesday with the suggestion that the Obama camp had made great use of Facebook as part of its messaging strategy and that today's event could be construed as an effort to promote the social networking site in thanks.
"We get our message out in a variety of ways and the President appears in a variety of private enterprises to have events," White House Press Secretary Jay Carney told reporters aboard Air Force One. "This is not about endorsing a specific company; it’s about accepting an invitation for a forum to speak to the American people. This is an excellent opportunity to do that."
Carney noted the site, with some 'half a billion users' reached 'more people than you can possibly imagine.'
Obama has met with Facebook executives several times, visiting with Zuckerberg in recent months and including COO Sheryl Sandberg in a strategy meeting at the White House yesterday on how to tackle comprehensive immigration reform.
The president answered questions about deficit, home mortgages and the Dream Act, among other topics, and closed by asking the mostly young crowd to 'double down' and remain engaged in the political process.
There were some light moments, like when Zuckerberg admitted to being a little nervous during his brief introduction at the top of the meeting and a short while later when Obama joked that he had gotten the young computer whiz to don a suit -- more accurately a shirt, tie, blazer and jeans.
Zuckerberg gave Obama a Facebook hoodie at the events close, telling the president "in case you want to dress like me."
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It is so nice to have a Presidental administration that gives the public a chance to connect with people using technology and the cache of a web site that is wildly popular among young people and increasingly popular among older web users.
After all, the past president didn't even know how to use this method of communication; I doubt if he knew how to turn on a computer. Even if he did, no one wants to be frightened to death.
It's great the prez is making an effort to reach out. John Boehnor isn't nor is he listening to the American people.
Yah, reaching out to the unwashed masses so they can electronically kiss his ring. This man is no more Presidential than Daffy Duck.
Rad. The unwashed masses? More commonly known as the American middle class or the backbone of America to the rest of us. Just crawl back behind the walls of your gated community and keep telling yourself, youare better then the rest of us, because you are the only one who believes you are.
People forget that Obama is the youngest President, and he's dealing with a bunch of old fogey Senators and Congressmen. He has forward looking ideas, but the Congress wants status quo, everything to remain the same. There's no reason why we shouldn't have high-speed rail in this country. One of the reasons (among others) that we're losing American companies is because the infrastructure in Europe and Asia is better than here.
Zuckerman said he didn't mind paying more taxes. The only "rich" people crying at the ones making between $250K and $1Mil. if you're worth $100Mil, what's another $100,000 in taxes going to mean? Nothing. You won't even feel it.
I think the issue for the rich millionaires is -- will Congress & the President spend that extra tax money wisely. I mean if they're f**cking up the taxes that the middle class pay, what will they do with $1Trill more?
Obama set another "open" town hall meeting. Lets get the corp CEO, a well known Obama man, to moderate a town hall meeting for his paid cronnies. What a joke this Pres has become. Set us up and mow us down. Fortunately most the Independents and moderates are smart enough to see throw the games this guy plays.
Independents for the repeal of Obama and his health care mess.
You think Zuckerman paid any extra taxes? Odd, it doesn't even look like Obama paid any extra in. Huh, now why do you suppose that is?
Pat, if you think this guy cares about the middle class you better go back to grade school. He is taking every incentive away from the middle class to show self reliance and achieve something because they can in a society that use to reward personal achievement. He is DESTROYING the middle class by creating a larger entitlement class. As long as he is a part of the elitist progressives he will continue to stifle creativity and economic growth. By the way, you don't know me so watch your ignorance. Better to to stay on subject.
Associated Press
April 17, 2011
The right are such hypocrites. One minute they're saying "cut the job training funds, cut unemployment benefits, cut low-income heating assistance because, you know, we can't afford them, and even if it's only a drop in the bucket on the deficit that's at least one drop."
But let anyone even hint at raising the top tax rates 1% from the lowest levels since the 1930's (where they are today), and they cry "Class warfare! Why, it won't even make any difference! Why are you picking on the rich?"
Hypocrites.
Actually, Obama is the fifth youngest to take office. T. Roosevelt, Kennedy, Clinton, and Grant were all younger when they took office.
Bev,
Yes, Isn't it so nice to have a President that is so devoted to his job of running for re-election. The goal of raising a Billion for his re-election, starting over 18 months before the election when he has no primary challenger.
How'd Obama do on any unemployment goals, any spending goals, goals to reduce the deficit / debt, goal to win in Afghanistan, goal to avoid stupid wars like Libya, goal ............
Speaking of going on-line, new technology as you put it and campaigning, seems Obama has spent $3 million on legal expenses to address federal campaign irregularities. Team Obam has has had to refund another $6 million to individuals .... a bunch of it seems to be foreign money. Something about 26 warning letters and 1,500 pages of compliance concerns - all regarding the 2008 obama election.
Online donor credit card fraud, seems about a 1,000 different people have the name Mr. Good Will who like to contribute $25 - and 330 have the same credit card number.
Ahhhh ......... the sweet smell of spring campaigning - Chicago style.
Well anyway, he is over his head at being President - let him do what he can do, the one thing he is good at .......... campaigning for President.
Rad,
Speaking of online campaigning and Daffy Duck and along the lines of the above seems Daffy Duck was a big contributor to Obama, along with Bart Simpson, Family Guy, King Kong, Mr. Doo Dad, Della Ware .......
I'm sure Obama will be on top on these irregularities this time. I hear he is going to hire Olga Fockyerself to handle all inquiries.
He will get it and get re-elected. Let the dumb f&**K repubics step up and hurt. They would rather make you suffer and take the country down to gain power. They have no interest in doing what's right. How American
Sally in Chicago,
Sound just like an seiu union official, it's the other person's money and she doesn't mind spending it for them. You liberprogs needs to just starting used to the idea that you lost, you had better kiss obama's ring quickly. After he looses in 2012 soros iis sending him to a deserted island.
I know this is a foolish question, but did anybody challenge Obama on S &P's take on his deficit reduction plan?
How about this
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/04/20/budget-watchdog-obama-deficit-plan-falls-short/
The votes are in - more smoke and mirrors from the Zelig candidate.
Well, the markets rose to a 3-year high today. Helps to keep up, you know:
Stocks end day up big; Dow near 3-year high
Rad. What absolute drivel. You have just strung a bunch of buzz words and right wing phrases together. You are right, I do not know you, but I know your ilk.
He is a joke - completely focused on puttting the blinders on young people so they vote for him in 2012. Name 1 thing he has done to HELP this country. Can't do it can you? How many people who have graduated college in the last 2 years are still living with their parents, jobless, and tons of student loan debt. Why the H would they vote for him? He is a community organizer who has no concept of runniing a busines, let alone a country. Gob Bless our children! Unbelievable.
On corporate earnings reports.
Not much of an economic indicator there.
This, however, is more evidence of what is really going on
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/20/us-gold-idUSTRE73J1IS20110420
All the spin in the world does not alter the facts-
We are teetering on the brink- and Obama does not even know about it. It's all "hopeful changiness" with him.
By the way, he answer any questions on Libya? What the endgame is, anything like that? How about Egypt cementing relations with Iran. Anything on that?
Osuohio. He saved the country from the edge of depression that conservatives brought us to. That alone was worth voting for him.
There is news on Libya.
It is not good, which is why so much of the media pretends it does not exist.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-libya-assess-20110419,0,2904396.story
"Pat" "Pat" "Pat" You can not tell me you are that uninformed about this depression and it's causes.
Both parties hads a hefty hand in it. The key question is what has been done to prevent the bankers and Wall street from doing it again. The answer=nothing. why because it would cost Obama to much in campaign contributions to shut it down. So much for Campaign promise/lie #42. I will remove all Corp influence from Washington. Obama the great American liar.
Independents for the repeal of Obama and his health care mess.
RAD you are FOS!
Patrick - a depression would be better than what we have staring us in the face. This country does not have a revenue problem, it has a spending problem. Government IS the problem across the board no matter which party you are affiliated with and that is the truth. I can tell you this, as a parent and husband, if I am struggling to support my wife and kids (which is the situation for many American families) why would I give money to ANYONE else. Let's start taking care of our own people, our own problems, and then help everyone else when WE get back on our feet.
OSUOhio.....Good commonsense approach. The pretender in chief is dropping fast in his approval rating. Our country has never been in this sad of shape. Where is a Ronald Reagan when you need one?
"While the president's remarks broke no new ground -- with most of the questions and all of the answers fitting in nicely with the president's usual talking points"
Obama recited campaign jargon on Facebook? Oh my, praise the lord, we are saved.... apparently Hillary is still running the country why Obama is busy marketing himself to fools.
P.S.
"Obama has met with Facebook executives several times, visiting with Zuckerberg in recent months and including COO Sheryl Sandberg in a strategy meeting at the White House yesterday on how to tackle comprehensive immigration reform."
A company executive is now taking part in meetings on immigration "reform"???
Maybe Obama will create a new "czar" position for her like he did for his buddy Immelt.
no joe, no bo, nj
There is news on Libya.
It is not good, which is why so much of the media pretends it does not exist.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-libya-assess-20110419,0,2904396.story
I suppose to you Donna it would have been so much better to you if your undies could get all in a wad if President Obama had lied to you like Georgie Boy did? Oh, the fear!!! But it's okay. Would you feel better in President Obama asked you to go shop for duct tape?
I understand, though. You righties get your fears on with LIES. Fear =Happiness so much better to righties; especially birthers wherever there is a jolly lie.
its a modern world use the technology or get left behind .. this president embraces change and wants our country to move forward ... the rest of the world will soon out distance us on economy and technology if we allow the retro neo conservatives to take America backwards because of there fear of change .. change is never easy but a great man once said ...we have nothing to fear but fear its self
fire guy ...thank God ronnie is finally gone ( and it aint to that great house in the sky) but take heart the destruction he caused lives on
BlackshoesBlacksocks
RAD you are FOS!
Amen to that.
Pat...to me, your're the "ilk."
Think this pretty much describe your attitude:
"hatred is self-punishment. hatred is the coward's revenge for being intimidated."
Oh Bev, your collapsed post was funny. Since when does this Prez. care for what the average "Joe" thinks? Were those selected few selected for a reason?
How about the guy who owned an SUV and was told by Barry, when asked about gasoline prices, "Ah, ummm, maybe you need to sell your car." Now that is constructive dialoge.
A CHEVY VOLT FOR EVERY OBAMA VOTE.
How very elitist of you RAD-xxxuuint. You must be enjoying your troll-bucks from your GOP corporate masters.
Read my reply to Patrick Jerk. What have you done for your country? Try to respond with some level of fact if you think this Pres is actually helping the middle class. He is an elitist that cares little about others' achievement or success. You sound like someone who justs loves the entitlements that this guy and his ilk use to suppress the poor and create more poor as the middle class dwindles. Whatever happened to self reliance if you are able? We help those who need our help..... the government crushes that incentive as it becomes larger and more wasteful.
What happened was that American companies decided it is more profitable for them to amass $1 trillion in cash from record corporate profits instead of sharing it with their ever-more-productive workers in the form of a living wage.
How do you think the bottom 90% of us are going to afford to save for retirement, pay for all our own healthcare, send our kids to college AND just live day to day? Sorry, but that "self reliance" BS is just bull@!$%# when someone else is skimming off all the results of our hard-working productivity.
Change in Share of Income After Taxes
RAD you are FOS!
"Real" I hope your Check is not late this month. You are getting a bit grumpy.
Obama has been a great disappointment. He states anything to please the crowd then follows what ever his Corp puppeteers tell him to do. I bet you did not know Obama was the biggest ever receiver of big oil money for his 2008 campaign. Shocker the oil companies are back at drilling with the same failed shut off valves. Bet you did not know wall street is still playing in derivitives. Bet you did not know the Health Ins industry is turning even bigger record profits now. So sad to see the blue flag waves following such a failure.
Independents for Obama's repeal.................................................
avo - "GOP corporate masters" ???
Perhaps you missed this part of the article;
"Obama has met with Facebook executives several times, visiting with Zuckerberg in recent months and including COO Sheryl Sandberg in a strategy meeting at the White House yesterday on how to tackle comprehensive immigration reform."
Apparently Obama feels that corporate executives deserve the ability to form federal law.
Maybe Obama will create a new "czar" position for her like he did for his buddy Immelt.
Why do this at Facebook HQ? He should be giving speeches to people in unemployment lines.
People in U/E lines aren't going to contribute to his campaign. That answers your question.
Obama doesn't toot his horn loud enough. He's done a lot of good for this country in his two short years, but you wouldn't know it. The media gives him no credit. and he doesn't give himself credit.
LOL "Sally" LOL
The "In Chicago" part of your name pretty much said it all.... All the man does is take credit for how great things are while the world around him crumbles. And all the media does is tell us how great things are while ignoring the obviously crumbling country around us.
Well, here's some of what Obama got through Congress just in his first 1/2 a term:
January 29, 2009: Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009, Pub.L. 111-2
February 4, 2009: Children's Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act (SCHIP), Pub.L. 111-3
February 17, 2009: American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (ARRA), Pub.L. 111-5
March 11, 2009: Omnibus Appropriations Act, 2009, Pub.L. 111-8
March 30, 2009: Omnibus Public Land Management Act of 2009, Pub.L. 111-11
April 21, 2009: Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act, Pub.L. 111-13
May 20, 2009: Fraud Enforcement and Recovery Act of 2009, Pub.L. 111-21
May 20, 2009: Helping Families Save Their Homes Act of 2009, Pub.L. 111-22
May 22, 2009: Weapon Systems Acquisition Reform Act of 2009, Pub.L. 111-23
May 22, 2009: Credit CARD Act of 2009, Pub.L. 111-24
June 22, 2009: Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act, as Division A of Pub.L. 111-31
June 24, 2009: Supplemental Appropriations Act of 2009 including the Car Allowance Rebate System (Cash for Clunkers), Pub.L. 111-32
October 28, 2009: National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2010, including the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act, Pub.L. 111-84
November 6, 2009: Worker, Homeownership, and Business Assistance Act of 2009, Pub.L. 111-92
December 16, 2009: Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2010, Pub.L. 111-117
February 12, 2010: Statutory Pay-As-You-Go Act, as Title I of Pub.L. 111-139
March 4, 2010: Travel Promotion Act of 2009, as Section 9 of Pub.L. 111-145
March 18, 2010: Hiring Incentives to Restore Employment Act, Pub.L. 111-147
March 23, 2010: Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, Pub.L. 111-148
March 30, 2010: Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010, including the Student Aid and Fiscal Responsibility Act, Pub.L. 111-152
May 5, 2010: Caregivers and Veterans Omnibus Health Services Act of 2010, Pub.L. 111-163
July 1, 2010: Comprehensive Iran Sanctions, Accountability, and Divestment Act of 2010, Pub.L. 111-195
July 21, 2010: Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act, Pub.L. 111-203
August 3, 2010: Fair Sentencing Act of 2010, Pub.L. 111-220
August 10, 2010: SPEECH Act of 2010, Pub.L. 111-223
September 27, 2010: Small Business Jobs and Credit Act of 2010, Pub.L. 111-240
December 8, 2010: Claims Resolution Act of 2010, Pub.L. 111-291, H.R. 4783
December 13, 2010: Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act of 2010, Pub.L. 111-296, S. 3307
December 17, 2010: Tax Relief, Unemployment Insurance Reauthorization, and Job Creation Act of 2010, Pub.L. 111-312, H.R. 4853
December 22, 2010: Don't Ask, Don't Tell Repeal Act of 2010, Pub.L. 111-321, H.R. 2965
January 2, 2011: James Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Act of 2010, Pub.L. 111-347, H.R. 847
January 4, 2011: Shark Conservation Act, Pub.L. 111-348, H.R. 81
January 4, 2011: Food Safety and Modernization Act, Pub.L. 111-353, H.R. 2751
And dealt with the BP oil spill, the Massey Energy mine disaster and a bunch of do-nothing Republicans.
Idiot republicans don't believe in facts. They a bunch of self-centered bigots. Now that's a fact.
Sally - all this guy does is take credit for anything good that happens and when things go wrong he blames them on someone else - usually George Bush. Then he plays the race card. You can't be serious about your comment - either that or you have a room temperature IQ.
We are still waiting to actually see 0bummers deficit/debt reduction plan. All he does is bash the Republican plan because he has none of his own. He even bashes his own commission that he set up because he didn't like there recommendations.
I could not agree with you more. I am really happy he is starting to speak up. If I were technologically astute I would love to run a Youtube video showing exactly how much money the health care industries, the oil and gas companies and the financial industries gave the republicans who are now touting that we need to deconstruct medicare. Let's get the record straight. Obama will compromise but his republican friends believe it is more important to destroy this man. At least he is trying to fix the mess he inherited. Time and time again the republicans have stood up and turned their backs on the unemployed, the unions and now they are gunning for the poor (again) and the elderly. Good luck with that I hope people wake up and see these men for the liars they are.
RAD-2791062
Yah, reaching out to the unwashed masses so they can electronically kiss his ring. This man is no more Presidential than Daffy Duck.
Rad
If the president is Daffy Duck that makes you and the MSM Wile E. Coyote and the President Road Runner. It's you old vultures (don't know how old you are but certainly you can be grouped as such); cuckcoo. The President has an indomitable force of nature which is not out of kilter such as the fussy, old-fashioned, fogies you speak of. They are so fixated on destroying the President's agenda and President Obama. But each time President Obama leaves you fools in the dust even when you put on your union busting costumes. Case in point: poll numbers on Paul Ryan's budget. Furthermore, the youth are the future; and the old vultures will succumb to disease and lack of longevity; which, by the way, has no quality at this point just more b!tching.
My advice to you is not to be so so single-minded and fixated on bashing this President; otherwise it'll come back and bite you old stoic righties in the butt. Texas comes to mind. Cutting FEMA and EPA certainly won't help those wildfires or Texas which needs the government.
The President gets it.
http://www.iafrica.com/iafrica/722779.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+iafrica%2FuGIK+%28iafrica.com+world+news%29
Your biological clocks, didn’t change with time. The youths do/did. That why they did not vote republican. Tidbit: Poll finds Obama support rising among young voters
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theticket/20110401/el_yblog_theticket/poll-finds-obama-support-rising-among-young-voters
No matter how much you try, you old coyotes (prairie wolves) always are left hanging and you want to take this country over the cliff with you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Zoomandbored.jpg
You always hurt your selves with those old fogey, stuck in the mud, antiquated ideas that didn't work in the past republican president errors. Even your union busting costumes and t-bagger rallies don't work. Where are the jobs?
I'll leave you with this choice"To Beep or Not to Beep"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mvz_uSUxUuM&feature=related
@ Sally in Chicago
Obama doesn't toot his horn loud enough. He's done a lot of good for this country in his two short years, but you wouldn't know it. The media gives him no credit. and he doesn't give himself credit.
I so agree with you but time will tell change all.
"starting to speak up"? Hilarious. All the man has done is talk since 2008, and his words aren't worth dirt.
I bet you did not know Obama was the biggest ever receiver of big oil money for his 2008 campaign. Shocker the oil companies are back at drilling with the same failed shut off valves. Bet you did not know wall street is still playing in derivitives. Bet you did not know the Health Ins industry is turning even bigger record profits now. So sad to see the blue flag waves following such a failure.
pjam09
"starting to speak up"? Hilarious. All the man has done is talk since 2008, and his words aren't worth dirt
pjam
When you are a yellow, filthy, lying, dirt ball, righty, dirt means nothing to you. You people are dirt; and a stain on humanity as well as this country.
President Barack Obama is Americans' Most Admired Man of 2010, substantially ahead of the former presidents, iconic religious leaders, and others who fill out the top 10 list. Obama first became Americans' Most Admired Man in 2008, shortly after his election as the nation's 44thpresident, and has held the title since then.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/145394/barack-obama-hillary-clinton-2010-admired.aspx
Dirt he's not.
You know I come to read the post of most stories for comicial relief. Half the people here are fools and the other half are bigger fools for trying to argue with them. However, which is which , I'll not say but please keep dividing our country with name calling, refusal to see that everything in our country has gone to hell in a hand bag and that both parties have had generations to stop the bull but have not.
It's time to stop and think about things. How do you divide a country? You yell racism preach class envy, you tell the inexperienced that they are smarter than they are and use thier inexperience to put them against those that can teach them, you put fear in the elderly till they forget the truth and you make as many of them dependent on you as possible. You tell everybody how bad they have it and they can't make it better and there is no hope till they believe it and make them think it's someone elses fault. You pray on emotion till people no longer can think reasonably.
When you do these things you conquer the masses. Who do you think is conquering you?
Sally, Will Medicare cover the cost of your bilateral knee replacement if its self inflicted???
Bev in Chicago & Sally in chicago - one and the same?
Does Obama have a presidential facebook page? Does he friend people?
Here you go joe!
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBoQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fbarackobama&ei=ZGyvTcesOuX20gGm9K3uAg&usg=AFQjCNFRyTVJE7eIR8sek4chJF7vLSx5DQ
With 19+ million followers - it's kinda tough to 'friend' people!
Follow him right off the cliff "red" One less mess the Independents, moderates and right will have to clean up in 2012.
This is just for the blue flag wavers. I feel sorry for your blindness. Independents for the repeal of Obama.............
There will never be a "presidential facebook page" that is like saying "presidential McDonalds value meal" or "presidential Democrat".
pjam09, there now can be a PRESIDENTIAL HAPPY MEAL. But Michelle insists it now come with apple fries.
Seeds4Thot - I DID TRUST an idiot to solve this problem when he was the one who got us into this mess. Thank God that the democrats overpowered the vote! Could you even imagine what real mess we would be in with McCain and that Dip-squat from Alaska!!!
McCain is a fine American. As for Palin, she can go visit with Bachmann.
As for Obama. I have never in my 35 years of political activity seen a man so full of himself or misleading in so many of the things he states, as Obama. My debate group of local Independents have overwhelmingly decided Obama must go before his inexperience and lack of leadership skills put the final death noose around the Middle classes neck.
This group of Independents for Tim Pawlenty, a man who will do as he states.
Has anyone else noticed that Michelle Bachmann and John Boehner have the same weird eyes?
Wonder if they've considered a DNA test - are they really cousins or something?
Toss in Sharon Angle, Scott Walker & Bible Spice and you're on to something! ;o)
0bama goes back to Chicago for good on Jan 20, 2013 - 641 long days away.
My debate group of local Independents
independents...uh huh
My debate group of local Independents just grew by 2. 2 more Demos that have seen the light and are leaving the liar in Chief behind. We openly welcome new points of view, do you?
Just keep the negative lies and insulting comments coming. I love it when you do, it just keeps people running to the right.
This is just for the blue flag wavers. I feel sorry for your blindness. Independents for the repeal of Obama.............
Apparently "The Donna" slept through November.
Oblahma in your face 24-7 from every directions. Fidel, Saddam, Mao also had pictures of themselves on every street corner, on every broadcast, 24-7.
I see more of this clown than I do my wife and kids for god's sake! And what does he say? What does he propose? What things has he done that actually has left our country in better shape than before he took over? What does our future look like? O"boo"moo is like a recurring nightmare that just won't go away.
Aren't Grover Norquist and the Reagan Legacy Project looking for monuments to Ronald Reagan to be in every state?
Sounds like a slight Ediface Complex.
And what does he say? He splits what he says between fera mongering and cheerleading. Look at his GW University speech. Absolutely no substance, no details, typical Oblah blah campaign BS! This answer also answers the rest of your question. POS-POTUS!
Someone has to counter the wackos on the right. At least he tells the truth and doesn't make up stuff to appease the fringe lunatics. At the very least even you are not so stupid to not recognize the down-spiraling economy, job loses, and failing housing market and auto industry, etc. occurred prior to this president taking office? Or were you still under your rock to see what was going on. You needed to suffer or suffer more to recognize what was averted. Show your american pride and denounce everything then return home under your rock.
The Drought Is Over (at Least for C.E.O.'s)
NY Times, April 11, 2011
And you working stiffs on here are going to swallow that GOP B.S. about "can't tax the rich" hook line and sinker? Who do you think is going to make up the difference?
YOU. (and your kids and grandkids and their kids)
da noid - "Edifice Complex" - snort!
LOL "terry" LOL How can any informed person even try and defend the Great American Liar. Obama knew exactly what he was getting when he took office.
"I will focus like a laser on Job creation" "The pres really has little to do with Job Creation" "I will rid the Whitehouse of Corp interests" "I will regulate Wall Street and stop this from happening again" "I will close Getoninmo in Cuba" "I will get our troops home well before the Bush time line" "I will never start a war over OIL" " I will never extend the tax cuts" "I will not sign a bill with pork attached" Unfortunately the list goes on and on and on and on. The great Liar in Chief has spoken.
Independents for the repeal of Obama and his Health care mess.
Once again, you can't face facts. Every politician says what they want to do.. They may be better off to say here is what I am for. There are 3 branches of govt. Unfortunately in the senate it only takes 1 idiot to stop anything. Now for each of the things you list, figure how it was stopped. The POTUS does NOT have total power. I can say he as work more with the opposition party than many would like. That's how he has tried to change washington. People like you have to have it their way only. When they say american people, they mean the few that only support them; not collectively. The POTUS means all
Goebbels would be jealous of the media's cowering to Obama. Zuckerburg fell right into line, and all it took was letting company executives be involved in national policy making.
"Obama has met with Facebook executives several times, visiting with Zuckerberg in recent months and including COO Sheryl Sandberg in a strategy meeting at the White House yesterday on how to tackle comprehensive immigration reform."
What a fool seeds4thot!!! He got us into this mess? You know what God says about fools? No need for you to look in the mirror to she what a fool you are. End the unpaid for wars, end the loopholes for the rich and tax breaks and the deficit goes away.
The campaigner in chief doing the only thing he knows how to do. ....well besides spend other people's money. It's so enlightening to see old Barry throwing $25 million to some Libyan rebels that haven't even been identified, isn't it Bev?
He will go down in history as a bigger WAR MONGER than Bush. Where are all the War Protesters now? In their caves! He has NO Integrity. He has yet to walk any of his rhetoric talk!! That's what you get with an experienced community organizer
Well, he darn well better get started, RAD. Only about $1 trillion to go.
You don't have a clue. My wife is in Afghanistan right now serving on her 4th deployment and I've recently retired after 23yrs. I'll bet you've never done anything in your life in the service of anyone. The least you could do is to shut your mouth about things you have no knowledge of. I've said that of Rs and Ds. Just keep you f8&*King mouth closed or talked about where you will burn you next cross
Now 0bama is donating $25 million to the Muslim Brotherhood and al Qaeda. Wish he would spend a dime to protect the Southern border.
first, terry, thank you for your service and I truly wish you wife well...that said, how do you get the idea that your service and your wifes give you any more right to speak than any other citizen? You may have closer knowledge of the situation, but that does not give you the right to deny someone else a differing opinion.
Obama, go back to the White House and get some work done. Stop wasteing Millions of dollars on fuel for AF # 1.
If Mr. Skippy ever returns and claims that Obama did not inherit a 1.2 trillion dollar deficit go to this impartial web site and check out the facts. Or anyone who cares to know the truth, He inherited a financial disaster and sorry folks the depression lasted from 1929 to 1943. I don't totally blame Bush but he was the man in charge. Factcheck.org and type in Did Obama inherit a 1.2 trillion dollar deficit.
Randal,
Let's say obama inherited this debt, like you said in your statement HE IS THE MAN IN CHARGE! He just has no clue how to deal with his position, after all he is a community organize holding hands with tax cheat timmy geitner, Go figure! ANY BODY in 2012
Yes, and Obama is the "man in charge" as the S&P decreases our credit rating. That, my friend, was not Bush's fault. It is this administration's fault. The rating decrease was a direct "no confidence" vote in this administration's abilities.
Also, it has been Obama's out of control spending that has taken us to the brink in the last 2-1/2 years. He used the majority in Congress to bully through gigantic spending packages, Obamacare, and trample due process and the Constitution. It's not just about fact checking, buddy. It's about telling the whole story. And you are still trying to tell a story that is stale, and isn't working anymore. Obama is a big failure. It's time to grow up and admit your mistake.
Randall, a VERY large part of that deficit was $700billion in TARP funds.
Which has been repaid.
With interest.
So, what did Obama do with it?
Look at it this way- suppose you were looking at a deficit of $500 next year. Your child came to you in desperate struts- needed money for an operation. You loaned that child $700. Now your debt for the next year would be $1200.
Child recovers, repays $725- the money and agreed upon interest. Your debt should now be $475, right?
So, if your debt is ACTUALLY $1600, what happened?
Obviously, you did a little spending, now, didn't you?
Obama is like a lot of snake oil salesmen- he talks a lot, around, over, and through the topic, until you are so confused, you think he must be right. He has shills who give testimonials about the efficacy and tastiness of his product, and, before you know it, you have bought a ton of his product.
Not until you are at death's door do you discover that what he sold you was toxic.
That is where America is today.
Nancy Piglosi and Dirty Harry Reid is the one that gave 0bama the 2009 budget with a $1.2 trillion dollar budget - duh - Bush should have vetoed it!! You know what 0bama did - he added another $500 billion that year in deficits to that budget!!!
I can tell by your comments that you lack an education in economics. Hey buddies where is the stock market 6500 to 12500. Now that's progress and if you were smart enough you would have made some money but instead you indulge yourselves in rhetoric that you don't understand and you also have to use slanderous words that hold no merit....spoken like true repukakans.
Never mind, Randall. I thought you were serious and misinformed. I now see you are just another Obama worshippers who gets angry when his illusions are challenged.
Carry on. Your little cult is shrinking rapidly.
Randal actually equated the stock market with "progress", have some dignity man.
He must be amazed at the "progress" which Bush created in the housing market too. Prices where much higher under him than Obama.
The US Stock market is roaring. Why because all the same people that robbed us the first time are back at it. Where is the promise of putting an end to Wall Streets misdeeds, Obama. Campaign promise/lie # 28. I bet Obama forgot about the campaign contributions he would get if he let Wall street rob the middle class yet again. Obama has failed the USA, the Middle Class and our foriegn partners.
I bet you did not know Obama was the biggest ever receiver of big oil money for his 2008 campaign. Shocker the oil companies are back at drilling with the same failed shut off valves. Bet you did not know wall street is still playing in derivitives. Bet you did not know the Health Ins industry is turning even bigger record profits now. So sad to see the blue flag waves following such a failure.
I own health care stock also. Get a clue and join the American Dream. You're so worried about deficits. What a joke.....Would you rather live in China or Iran....We're the greatest country on the earth. We came out of the depression ok...why are you so worried, maybe I should send you some bread crumbs. Are you hungry and cold or just dumb and broke. Stop crying there will be another repukikan president and he'll screw things up like dumb Bush and than another liberal will have to clean up again. Move to Mexico. Obama wins again. He's smarter than you dumb repukes.
How can he call the budget a "balanced" approach when it involves massive DEFICIT SPENDING!?
That is not a "balanced" budget.
(I guess Obama never learned how to "balance" his checkbook!)
I was in the store the other day and the cashier had to hold up the line because she couldn't give change without a computer doing the work for her. This is same kind of mentality expressed here when some can intelligently add 1 and 1 to get 2. No common sense or logic.
I'm with you on the first sentence...but then you seem to be equating correctly adding 1+1=2 with a lack of common sense or logic.
There's no doubt you get my point. There reason and logic why 1+1=2. People have to use reason and logic in all areas that affect the country and it's people. They need to get over R or D politics; to stop supporting an party despite their own self interest. And for God's sake get over the superficial arguments
Okay...I assume you meant the problem is too many people don't get 2 when they add 1+1 because they lack logic etc.
They add 1 and 1 and they get "My party's opinion is right".
I actually starting to like you and respect you. See people can have an intelligent conversation
Here is another reason why people should quit Facebook. Mark Zuckerberg panders and gives Obama a platform to campaign from.
Like FOX news?
The difference between Fox and Facebook, is that everyone gets to express an opinion on Facebook, but only conservatives get to be on Fox. Sad how republicans only want to hear one point of view.
Actually if you watch the NEW CASTs on Fox News (not the commentary shows) they give Democrat/liberal pundits and GOP/Conservative pundits equal time when they have they many brief debates.
If you judge a channel by the commentary they you will never find a fair channel.
Fox is to journalism as @!$%# is to food.
Like MSNBC?
First Immelt was rewarded for his propaganda with a jobs czar position and now Facebook executives are invited to participate in forming national laws. Facebook will probably probably get a few no-tax years, or zuckerburg will receive a government "czar" appointment for his obedience.
"Obama has met with Facebook executives several times, visiting with Zuckerberg in recent months and including COO Sheryl Sandberg in a strategy meeting at the White House yesterday on how to tackle comprehensive immigration reform."
Looks like soros is really upset with obama, even soros expected obama to have nads.
Soros is now wishing he would have backed trumka or even gore at least they look tough, well at least gore is fat , oops I meant big.
Obama has to be kidding!...
0bama has no plan to cut the deficit/debt. He wouldn't know how to cut anything that had to do with spending.
Come on Obama has formed 2 committees to get the budget under control. The first one he did not agree with so he started another one. And he will continue to start them until he gets one that his corp puppeteers agree with. What a false front. Say whatever it takes to the crowds to please them and then ignore those statements to do what he wants.
Repeal Obama and his health care mess. We, the middle class can not afford him or his failed policies.
Why didn't Obama have this plan as his 2012 Fiscal Year Budget???
This plan is so much different from his 2012 Budget WHY???
Looks like he was forced to come out with a plan that cut instead of spend.
That's politics
That is how you balance a budget, spend until the deficit is gone. What a failed policy..........
Independents for the repeal of Obama in 2012
As an independent who looks at the non-partisan figures and facts as I form my opinion, I have to agree that we need a balanced approach to solving the deficit problem. Unfortunately the Republicans have only one gear on their car and it's CUT. Even the conservative Cato institution has suggested clearing the decks of all corporate welfare as one of the starting points and save the taxpayer $$125 billion per year. If and when all of our politicians get serious about this problem we will come to see that a balanced approach is the one that works best and does not throw the burden of the deficit on just the middle class and seniors.
absolutely!!! well said!!
Great post! You nailed it!
Equal cuts across the board are needed. Then attack the porkers, defense, welfare, entitlements, etc...
Repeal the biggest spending spree in USA History and set spending at 2008 levels. Repeal the health care mess, that bill alone will bankrupt the middle class. I for one do not want to have to get a third job to support taxes that the rich or poor will live off of. If your bank acct is drained and you can not borrow any more, first step is to stop the spending. Not go out and get a another job so you can spend more. That theory is pure suicide.
Independent and for the repeal of Obama and his health care mess.......
Obama 2012
That is the year that 0bama gets made a 1 term POTUS!
Come join in the fun! I have line up 10 companies to donate each time there is a negative remark against President Obama! You can donate any amount to fight Hate! Go to President Obama's website to sign up! You will feel great!
You will make a lot more money if you get people to donate every time 0bama lies!!!
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=1&oq=Obama+&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADSA_enUS409US413&q=obama+approval+rating
Obama's approval rating is at an all time low since the inception of his term in office. 41%. He only has an approval rating of 35% from the independents. Latest pole released 04/17. Yeah, baby!
Seeds4thot....................
More like "Seeds 4 No thought"
Nothing more than the fleecing of America
Watching Obama's "Town Hall" meetings, looks to me like he only speaks at college campuses. I wonder why. Could it be that if he spoke in front of us taxpayers, he would get blasted? He is a SPEND guy who, now, is trying to hide it by his deficit reduction bull. I'd love to see him debate Trump. Trump would demolish him. I'll take bets that Obama will NEVER debate Trump. He is afraid of him. Any takers?
It was a facebooks headquarters. In front of really smart individuals and most wealthy.
Church and State
Watching Obama's "Town Hall" meetings, looks to me like he only speaks at college campuses. I wonder why. Could it be that if he spoke in front of us taxpayers, he would get blasted?
Employers reduced the amount of taxes withheld from people's paychecks in accordance with the new law under President Obama.
WTF is your problem?
Beverly, we still have to pay the same amount at the end of the year. So really we are just digging a hole faster as the government will just borrow that money anyway, spend it, and then we will have to pay the interest as well.
would love to sign up to watch what he's doing and saying, but DON'T want to be a "friend." guess I'm gonna have to keep watching MS media, and then those other ones reporting the truth.
"While the president's remarks broke no new ground -- with most of the questions and all of the answers fitting in nicely with the president's usual talking points"
Obama recited campaign jargon on Facebook? Oh my, praise the lord, we are saved.... apparently Hillary is still running the country why Obama is busy marketing himself to fools.
P.S.
"Obama has met with Facebook executives several times, visiting with Zuckerberg in recent months and including COO Sheryl Sandberg in a strategy meeting at the White House yesterday on how to tackle comprehensive immigration reform."
A company executive is now taking part in meetings on immigration "reform"???
Maybe Obama will create a new "czar" position for her like he did for his buddy Immelt.
When you want to find out what the average American thinks you need to go the source. And GE has just announced the creation in this country of 3 new industrial operations. They already employ 133,000 and pay an average of 20% over the years in taxes.
LOL, GE paid ZERO in taxes, 0. Immelt is one of, if not the biggest shipper of jobs overseas. "PJ" go back to bed. Obama has done so little to complete his campaign promises.
pjam09
Maybe Obama will create a new "czar" position for her like he did for his buddy Immelt.
Here is a partial list of the czars that Bush appointed during his administration:
Cyber Security Czar
Regulatory Czar
AIDS Czar
Bird Flu Czar
Intelligence Czar
Health IT Czar
Katrina Czar
Manufacturing Czar
Drug Czar
Domestic Policy Czar
War Czar
Copyright Czar
Abstinence Czar
Mine Safety Czar
Latin American Czar
WTO Czar
Corruption Czar
Privacy Czar
Sudan Czar
and Health Czar, to name more than a few.
Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_czars_in_the_bush_administration#ixzz1K7xP4cHT
Obama gives the same old b.s. as usual. Never had a real job in his life. Always on some form of government help/aid/grants.