Onetime fan Trump now not so hot on 'worst president ever'

Last February – on the eve of the passage of a controversial health care bill and amidst increasing skepticism of the 2009 stimulus plan – many voters who had previously supported Barack Obama were beginning to sour on the president.

But one prominent American was still willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

“I really like him. We'll have to see how he does,” Donald Trump told CNN in an interview. “On a personal basis, I like him. … Right now, he's at that tipping point. It's going to go one way or the other.

It was, apparently, a steep slope after that tipping point. In an interview last week, Trump categorically dubbed Obama “the worst president ever.” 

But Trump, whose presidential flirtations have been coupled with television omnipresence in recent months, has only taken a tough view of the most recent resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue within the last year.

As late as April 2010, just a year ago, Trump said that “the jury’s still out” on Obama’s job performance, noting just that he’d “like to see” the president get tougher on OPEC and China.

At times, Trump’s disdain for George W. Bush provided the backdrop for the real estate mogul’s optimism about Obama.

In March 2009, after the passage of the stimulus, Trump pointed – as the Obama administration itself has often done – to mistakes made by Obama’s predecessor as the primary origins of the nation’s economic woes.

“I think we have a president who is working very hard and trying very hard. He inherited a mess,” Trump said of Obama, adding that he believed the nation was on track for a quick recovery. “I really believe that it is going to get very good, and I think within two years it will be like the old days, but with some restrictions [on the economy.]”

It’s no secret that Trump has evolved on several GOP plank issues; including abortion (he was once pro-choice but recently explained his pro-life conversion) and health care (he wrote in a 2000 book “we must have universal healthcare.”)

But he has also praised specific plans backed by the Obama administration to jumpstart the economic recovery, some of them particularly reviled by the Tea Party constituency he hopes to court.

In February 2009, for example, Trump embraced Obama’s efforts to cap the salaries of Wall Street executives whose companies were receiving government support, saying “he’s absolutely right” to institute salary limits.

In the same interview, he hailed the young administration’s plans to inject funds into the economy, affirming that “I would certainly vote for a stimulus.”

The Donald has also repeatedly praised the Troubled Asset Relief Program (which passed under President George W. Bush and was backed by both 2008 presidential nominees), saying that the hastily-passed bank bailout bill saved the economy from certain disaster.

"A year ago, the government did the right thing or really I believe we would have been in a depression," he said in the fall of 2009.

And in December of that year, Trump praised the administration for meeting with banking executives but lamented the reluctance of financial organizations to do more to loosen more funds for loans. Their unwillingness to listen to the White House, he added, “show[ed] a great lack of respect for the president.”

By the way, Trump's naming of Obama as "the worst president ever" updates his previous statements about his least-favorite leader of the free world.

“I think Bush is probably the worst president in the history of the United States,” he said in March 2007.

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IMHO, Obama is doing the best that he can do, given the congressional movement at this time. More jobs, healthcare..they may not have materialized as he promised, but at least he tried, fighting the GOP every step of the way.

    Reply#132 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:25 PM EDT

    "at least he tried"??????

    He had TWO YEARS of a Democrat dominated Congress and all he's done is bankrupt us.

    And of course we get the usual crap about having to "fight the GOP" when the GOP couldn't stop a single thing that was going on.

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    #132.1 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:44 PM EDT
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    james you may think you are eating dump.we the people Americans the majority dont eat dump from our PRESIDENT.The most powerful man in the world.James you need to have respect for your LEADER.I would bet that you think the president that lied and now we have many dead VETERANS and sad familes.disabled VETERANS for life.He should be CONVICTED for KILLING so many Americans.he is probaley your favoried dump a Veteran suggest use salt and peper for seasoning to improve your George Bush dump.

      Reply#133 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:33 PM EDT

      Clevdon Is English your second language? For the record congress gave the ok to go to war as the constitution requires unlike a certain President who took it upon himself to invade Libya. It almost looked like he waited for congress to leave town.

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      #133.1 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:47 PM EDT

      Respect for our leader??? Try remembering those words when there's a Republican in office my friend!! I have never seen any President dragged through the mud like Bush was!!

        #133.2 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:11 PM EDT
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        I don't trust a billionaire who chooses to have the worst combover in the world rather than to spend a few bucks on a decent hair implant job. I've seen better hair do's on road kill.

          Reply#134 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:34 PM EDT

          John with your great political insight and satire it's clear how a community organizer became President.

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          #134.1 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:43 PM EDT

          Thanks, time4truth, and with the great field of candidates you have, it'll be quite clear why a community organizer becomes a two-term president.

            #134.2 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:48 PM EDT

            John Boy just so you know I admit I made a mistake and voted for Obama, I think we should have voted for Hillary the first time and I think she will run against Obama in 2012 they don't like each other it could actually make 2012 somewhat interesting

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            #134.3 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:58 PM EDT

            Time, just so you know, I did vote for Hillary. However, the chance that she'll run again is doubtful at best. Although I feel she is the better candidate, Obama is projected to raise around a billion dollars for 2012. That's a tough hill for even Hillary to climb.(pardon the pun) Also forgive me for thinking you belonged to the dark side, it was rather presumptuous of me.

              #134.4 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:06 PM EDT

              truth, you are a political novice if you think Hillary is going to run.

                #134.5 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:08 PM EDT

                I don't believe you would even throw Hairstyle in there for a basis on who you would choose for President!! I should think other things would be more important than a man or woman's hairdo! You are just taking a cheap shot at the man.

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                #134.6 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:24 PM EDT
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                Bottom line, Trump is an egomaniac who couldn't get elected dog catcher in his home town.

                Do you seriously think Barack Obama is worried about losing the Presidency to Donald trump?

                Really?

                Trump's birther tirade is the absolute dumbest thing since Sarah Palin's interview with Katie Couric!

                Nobody with an IQ bigger than their hat size would vote for Trump!

                  #135 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:46 PM EDT

                  No I don't think so but he is worried about getting re-elected. Hillary is going to beat him!!!

                  katie Couric really? She is looking for a job now because her ratings stink. She was a pathetic interviewer.

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                  #135.1 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:50 PM EDT

                  So if a pathetic interviewer like Couric made Palin look stupid, imagine what a good interviewer would do to Palin. Hilarious.

                    #135.2 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:01 PM EDT

                    But Tom, you'll vote for Obama won't you?

                    Despite him having signed off on three RECORD deficit spending budgets you'll vote for him. Despite passing the most massive welfare program in our history into law, which will cost, according to the CBO, at least 1.13 Trillion taxpayer dollars over the next decade, you'll vote for him. Despite handing out exemptions to this "wonderful" health care program (if it's so damn wonderful why does ANYONE need an exemption from it), you'll still vote for him. Despite passing budgets that will cost us, if we NEVER pass another spending bill, over 10 Trillion taxpayer dollars over the next decade, you'll vote for him. Despite him turning his back on millions of unemployed Americans for the past two years, but making sure he paid back the unions with billions of taxpayer dollars for supporting his campaign, you'll vote for him. Despite him wanting to give amnesty to somewhere between 12-20 million illegals, adding millions more to our already overburdened welfare and social services, you'll still vote for him. Despite his apologizing for this nation and for being an American to leaders all over the world, you'll vote for him. Despite taking us into another nation's Civil War on the orders of the United Nation, and without consulting Congress or the American people, you'll still vote for him. Despite the fact that for the first time in our history we have a negative credit rating which is going to raise even more our interest rates on the Trillions that we borrow, you'll vote for him.

                    Despite all that, you'll STILL vote for Obama, won't you?

                    And what kind of IQ does that take?

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                    #135.3 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:01 PM EDT

                    truth, a bit of news for you. Hillary has to run before she can win.

                      #135.4 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:02 PM EDT

                      Tom isn't anyone who thinks they are worthy of being the most powerful person in the world an egomaniac?

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                      #135.5 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:02 PM EDT

                      Cheryl, do you have a better candidate in mind?

                        #135.6 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:04 PM EDT

                        Ed are you under some misconception I'm a Palin fan? I voted for OBAMA. I made a mistake. God Bless Palin let her sell her books and make her money this a capitalist country but she is non factor for 2012

                          #135.7 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:07 PM EDT

                          truth, never said you are a Palin fan. Merely poking holes in your argument you could drive a truck through.

                            #135.8 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:10 PM EDT

                            Ed, my dog would make a better President than Obama.

                            She doesn't feel the need to punish those that are doing better than her. She doesn't feel the need to "redistribute" what others have earned. She doesn't feel that need to borrow from others when she doesn't have enough. She doesn't feel the need to apologize for being who or what she is. She doesn't feel the need to attack with pure ideological hatred anyone that doesn't agree with her. She does NOT allow people that aren't supposed to be here to cross our borders and abuse our land. She understands that you can only use what you have.

                            And I even have her birth certificate and am WILLING to actually show it to people. (And yes I believe Obama was born in Hawaii and that he is just being an ass because he thinks it's "cute" to not show his official birth certificate.)

                            Gracie for President 2012. A better choice than Obama!!!!!!

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                            #135.9 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:14 PM EDT

                            I think Cheryl may a bit too intimate with Gracie. Time to throw away all your peanut butter Cheryl.

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                            #135.10 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:25 PM EDT

                            You know Ed. YOU represent liberals perfectly.

                            You take something and turn it into the most foul, hate filled, FILTH possible.

                            People like you are beyond disgusting.

                              #135.11 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:28 PM EDT

                              Cheryl, I was simply implying that many pet owners treat their pets like people by feeding them people food. Now if your mind has wandered elsewhere.....................?

                                #135.12 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:36 PM EDT

                                You're disgusting.

                                And it's PLAIN to see exactly what you were saying.

                                If you meant ANYTHING else than what you said, then you wouldn't have posted what you did.

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                                #135.13 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:43 PM EDT

                                I thought women liked "bad boys"?

                                  #135.14 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:05 PM EDT

                                  Cheryl pay no attention to that scum, he can't beat you with logic so he will try to insult you, they all resort to that, they are all the same.

                                    #135.15 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:08 PM EDT
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                                    ANYBODY BUT 0BAMA 2012!

                                    There does that do it for you fools?

                                    Honestly, 0bama has lied to you, pulled the wool over your eyes and screwed you and you still want the guy to win.

                                    If this snake-oil salesman gets another term it will serve you right. You just don't listen.

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                                    Reply#136 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:01 PM EDT

                                    Frank is tickling that keyboard but not saying a damn thing.

                                      #136.1 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:05 PM EDT

                                      Yeah Ed, like you're just full of intelligence and wonderful debating points with your posts.

                                      You post FILTH and think you're "intelligent". You spew hate and think that it shows everyone how "progressive" you are.

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                                      #136.2 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:26 PM EDT

                                      Cheryl, as I lay down to sleep tonight, I am going to focus on the positive notes in your first sentence. Your second and third sentences are such downers that I think I will compartmentalize them and then dissipate them with a snap of the fingers.

                                        #136.3 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:43 PM EDT

                                        I hope you get thrown out actually.

                                        You posted FILTH and that was not called for.

                                        If you wanted to actually intelligently debate, then you should have done so. But you didn't. You implied something disgusting.

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                                        #136.4 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:44 PM EDT
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                                        Monica Lewinsky celebrates 44th birthday. Can you believe it? It seems like only yesterday she was crawling around the white house on her hands and knees putting everything in her mouth. They grow up so fast. Hillary is history. with all the betrayals in their White House. If Trump throws his hat into the arena, you can bet Obama will put Oprah on his ticket!

                                          Reply#137 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:16 PM EDT

                                          Voting out Obama will solve nothing. The GOP also has serious problems and the Tea Party is only making them worse. Both the GOP and the Dems are heading the country in the wrong direction. First, we need to balance the budget (and everyone needs to contribute to that, including the wealthy--by paying taxes for once). We need to get rid of all government programs that have outlived their usefulness (I am for good programs), especially ag biz subsidies and subsidies for oil companies. We need single-payer health care. The modest increase in taxes this will represent will be greatly offset by the billions of dollars that would be saved but that are now tied up in premiums for virtually worthless private health insurance and escalating costs. Since businesses would no longer need to provide health insurance benefits, there would be billions more for creating jobs and reinvesting. We need a much leaner, healthy solvent public sector (especially at the federal level) as well as a healthy private sector. But this makes too much sense for any of our politicians, our GOP and Dem true believers, and our political ideologues (especially those on the Right).

                                            #138 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:25 PM EDT

                                            How about we just stop spending so damn much, did you EVER think of that?

                                            Why is it that you on the left think that raising taxes is the answer to everything?

                                            Why is it that you think a system like "single payer health care", that has failed EVERYWHERE else in the world except small population nations (with a massive tax burden by the way) is something that will work in a nation of over 300 million people?

                                            If you want to live in an out and out Socialist nation, where people are not allowed to keep what they EARN, where people are FORCED by the government to participate in "social justice" and "redistribution" systems, then why are you in a nation that says every person has the RIGHT to succeed or fail on their own?

                                            Why are you attempting to change a FREE society into a society that says the government runs everything from the time of your birth (if you're allowed to be born) until you die (with the time of your death based on the cost of your health care)?

                                            This nation was, and is supposed to be, based on INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY, not nanny state, not socialist practices, and not big government. The Constitution was written to restrict big government, not enable it.

                                            Why don't you take a look at HISTORY and see for yourself what happens when government is bloated, overspending, overtaxing, and overregulating of the people? IT FAILS.

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                                            #138.1 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:41 PM EDT

                                            Cheryl graduated from the Hoover School of Economics. The Hoover School of Economics teaches that an economy should stop spending in the middle of a major recession.

                                              #138.2 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:50 PM EDT

                                              Go away Ed. I'll not discuss anything with you.

                                              Your hate filled FILTH that you think is "funny" belongs somewhere else.

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                                              #138.3 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:54 PM EDT

                                              The Ryan plan effectively increases costs for middle class and poor people. Why do republicans like to screw middle class and poor people?

                                                #138.4 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:55 PM EDT

                                                I didn't realize that the Hoover School of Economics was a "dirty phrase"?

                                                  #138.5 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:57 PM EDT

                                                  Cheryl, you seem a bit exasperated that I have the temerity to question some of your basic assumptions. I will assume that you are having a rough day and projecting that on me.

                                                    #138.6 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:01 PM EDT

                                                    CherylLM, There not too many people that are shedding tears over your theory of how bad the rich have it today. You seem to ignore the fact that this country's middle class is virtually nonexistant and its demise coincides exactly with the obscene rise in the wealth of this nations most wealthy top 2 percent. This top 2 percent holds virtually 90% of the individual wealth of the nation, yet pays half or less on a percentage basis of the federal tax. This in combination with the preference given by both parties, but much more so by the Republicans to corporate and Wall street interests has decimated the middle class of this nation. Yet you have the audacity to sing the praises of the party that is most responsible for this debacle. People such as yourself and the political monstrosity you perpetuate are simple proof of one thing....greed knows no bounds.

                                                      #138.7 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:04 PM EDT

                                                      Careful John, Cheryl will swear that you spew filth and hate.

                                                        #138.8 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:15 PM EDT

                                                        John, to the left "middle class" means union.

                                                        We are "middle class", and NOT union by the way, although we don't make anywhere near even $100K a year. You keep thinking that the "rich" should be paying for every single social justice program out there. Meanwhile millions of Americans do NOTHING to better themselves, other than to vote for the guy that's going to raise their "entitlements".

                                                        I've lived in the projects, I've seen exactly what happens there. And we didn't want to depend on some Democrat's promises of how it was going to "get better" for us if we just re-elected him. We actually went out and WORKED for what we have.

                                                        And while we aren't millionaires, we don't begrudge those that have EARNED more than us what they have and think that they should be giving some of it to us to make it "fair".

                                                        We're not greedy, we tithe, we give to charities, and we don't claim it on our taxes. We don't even itemize our taxes. We rent the place we live in, and still have to pay property taxes on it. We drive a 9 year old van. We pay for our OWN health care insurance and don't think that buying that new 3DHDTV is more important in our lives than paying for the things we actually need. (Why don't you go take a little look at what Biden gives to help charities and the poor. Even as the Number Two leader in this nation, who should be setting an example for EVERYONE, he contributed less than 1% of what he made)

                                                        The party "most responsible" for "this debacle" is the party that protected Fannie and Freddie as they sold hundreds of billions of dollars in bad mortgages as "securities" to banks all over the world. The party that thinks printing money and handing it out is "recovery". That thinks bailing out failing companies just because they are unionized is "recovery". That thinks that bailing out mismanaged union pensions is "recovery". That thinks 9% unemployment for OVER two years is "recovery". That thinks that FORCING Americans to buy something is actually "good for the country". That thinks that amassing another 10 Trillion dollars in debt over the next decade is "recovery". That thinks that borrowing over 4 Trillion dollars in just over two years is "fiscal responsibility" and "pay as you go". That says that "unemployment creates jobs".

                                                        If we took 100% of what the rich have today just to pay for what we spend RIGHT NOW, we'd still be broke by the end of the year, do you understand that?

                                                        Taxing is NOT the answer to every problem. Do YOU borrow more when you're in financial trouble, thinking that you are "recovering"? Do YOU spend more when you're in financial trouble, thinking that it's going to help you "recover"? Do you force the people in your neighborhood to pay YOUR debts for you, thinking that it's going to help you recover?

                                                        Well, you might, seeing as you think that those that EARNED what they have are "greedy".

                                                        And John, you might want to be careful about getting involved with Ed. If he disagrees with you he'll imply that you engage in bestiality and think he's "funny".

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                                                        #138.9 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:19 PM EDT

                                                        Cheryl, Obama should be a model to all us concerning bettering themselves. Thoughts?

                                                          #138.10 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:25 PM EDT

                                                          Cheryl, isn't Michelle Obama's dad an inspiration to all of us about the meaning of hard work? Thoughts?

                                                            #138.11 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:27 PM EDT

                                                            Cheryl, you seem to be begrudging Obama who has certainly earned more than your family? Thoughts?

                                                              #138.12 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:29 PM EDT

                                                              Cheryl, do you refute the fact that letting GM fail would have had major negative consequences for our economy? Thoughts?

                                                                #138.13 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:31 PM EDT

                                                                If Cheryl would get over her tissy-fit long enough to actually read my post. She would actually see that I want to get rid of government waste, but keep functions of government and programs that actually contribute to the public good. No way we can have any health care system with the kind of deficits we are running. And we will keep having deficits as long as the rich refuse to pay taxes. Cheryl has swallowed the myth of individual responsibility hook, line, and sinker. All the individual responsibility will do no good if a catastrophic health event that private insurance refuses to cover (or if you are denied in the first place for "pre-existing" conditions). I am all for paying taxes, but I am furious I have to pay the taxes the wealthy refuse to pay and get nothing but deficits in return--the absolute first thing I would want to see my taxes go toward is a single-payer system and the second thing, assistance for the poor, disabled, and unemployed--sorry, Cheryl, I believe in the well-being of my fellow citizens. I would say well over 90 percent of people in this country are responsible. I am all for it. But that alone is not the answer any more than government is the answer. We need to assign Ayn Rand's radical individualistic fascism to the garbage heap of history so it no longer infects impressionable minds such as Cheryl's.

                                                                  #138.14 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:38 PM EDT

                                                                  Obama is a millionaire and believes that the wealthy can afford to pay more in taxes. He is an inspiration for all of us.

                                                                    #138.15 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:41 PM EDT

                                                                    Nice post Alpha.

                                                                      #138.16 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:43 PM EDT

                                                                      I must apologize to you Alpha. I think I was getting under Cheryl's skin. I hope she doesn't take that the wrong way. She is so sensitive.

                                                                        #138.17 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:45 PM EDT

                                                                        CherylLM, I totally agree with you on the spending thats occuring. Its absolutely essential to rein it in. But, as far as Unions are concerned, you'd probably be surprised to learn that women in this country initially started the union movement in the garment industry. Please check out the "Triangle Shirt Waist Fire", it's a tragedy which precipitated the Labor Movement in this country. Also please read the "Jungle" by Upton Sinclair it details the working conditions of immigrants working in the Chicago meat packing factories at about the same time of the Triangle factory fire. This book when read by president Teddy Roosevelt, so appalled him and resulted in the FDA meat inspection program, and laws preventing the use of child labor. Both true stories are unforgettable and very touching. The work of Organized Labor (unions) in this country accounts for the 5 day work week, the abolishment of child labor, for time off for sickness, time off for vacations, to be treated and paid fairly. Yes, today there are excesses with some unions, but as a whole they still provide the best working conditions that Americans enjoy in the labor market. Their demise is resulting in the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer. Without them, we wiil return to the "Jungle". As a union member myself, I was deeply touched to read about the women of the New York garment district who showed such courage in pursuing better working conditons for not only themselves but for countless others long after they had passed. Please check both of these stories out to get a clearer picture of how workers were treated before and after these women put their lives and livelyhoods on the line, you won't regret it.

                                                                          #138.18 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:19 PM EDT

                                                                          Ed - What a poor excuse for a man. I doubt anyone missed your meaning behind your comment about Cheryl's dog. That was pathetic, don't play dumb or innocent. You think you are so clever and superior, when really you are pathetic.

                                                                            #138.19 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:53 PM EDT
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                                                                            Who would even contemplate voting for an egotistical billionaire like Trump for president? Why should we even be enabling Trump right now? He's an idiot.

                                                                              Reply#139 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:51 PM EDT

                                                                              4 truth you must understand my lanugage you answered my comment .The joke is on you,george bush told a LIE too start the murder of our troops congress belived the war.I may not be as smart as you but i was not made a fool of believeing george bush and too this day you seem not to understanding he is the reason people are DEAD because of his lies at lease the President did not lie.

                                                                                Reply#140 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:54 PM EDT

                                                                                clevdon, you have nothing to worry about concerning truth's aptitude.

                                                                                  #140.1 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:02 PM EDT

                                                                                  clev....If you check it was CONGRESS that authorized, and demanded that we go to war, including almost 60% of the Democrats in the Senate.

                                                                                  The "lie" you speak of came from the United Nations, the United Nations INSPECTORS IN IRAQ, and nearly every intelligence service in the world. Not including Saddam himself who threatened to use WMDs.

                                                                                  Obama has been lying since day ONE. Close Gitmo within a year. ObamaCare will save money (notice that the CBO just said it's going to COST over a trillion dollars?). Cut the deficit IN HALF and promote PayGo. Unemployment below 8%. Won't hire lobbyists (47 so far, and counting). And that's just a FEW since he took office.

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                                                                                  #140.2 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:05 PM EDT

                                                                                  The United Nation inspectors in Iraq never found any weapons WMD's at all. In fact Valerie Plame was "outed" by the Bush admin because her husband found out that the "yellow cake story" was a complete fabrication by a single Iraqi informer who was later found to be totally unreliable. The speech made before the United Nations by Gen. Colin Powell justifying the existence of WMD's was predicated on false info being given to the Admin. by Chalabi, the puppet Bush initially tried to install as the Iraqi P.M. Even Donald Rumsfield, Bush's Defense Secretary has just recently been interviewed and admitted to these "mistakes" and said that the justification for the war was flawed at best. Please do at least some rudimentary research before attempting to speak to this issue.

                                                                                    #140.3 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:29 PM EDT

                                                                                    clevdon needs to educate himself before speaking on the issue......

                                                                                      #140.4 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:01 PM EDT
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                                                                                      ED tell everybody that you have used a credit card noing you do not have money.But you keep chargeing.This have become the American way for decades spend spend spend.People who live in glass houses should not throw stones.

                                                                                        Reply#141 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:09 PM EDT

                                                                                        Economists say you don't slash spending during a major recession.

                                                                                          #141.1 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:16 PM EDT

                                                                                          yeah, and that is called being STUPID Clev! not you, but the people who keep spending when they are in debt already!!

                                                                                            #141.2 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:05 PM EDT
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                                                                                            To this day and 30+ years since Carter was President, I still have yet to see anyone give real evidence about Carter being such a bad President. He had a lot of crap happen on his shift. He did not cause most of it, but are his reactions the reason people give such a black eye to Carter? Yea, there was high unemployment and super high interest rates and gas prices, but are those Carters fault. There was so much crap going on behind his back. Why or how should a candidate for President be dealing with a hostile government(Iran) and making deals when he was not commander and cheif as Reagan did. That was so outrageous and I would think illlegal. Or doesn't anyone remember the Iran/Contra affair? Many of those who have Carter on their top as worst don't know a lot about that time or have this image of Reagan as this knight in shining armor. I don't think these bad polls bother Jimmy Carter too much. He has seved this nation and humanity with distiction for his entire life. Give him a break.

                                                                                              Reply#142 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:21 PM EDT

                                                                                              Reagan is...OVER-RATED! Have to say Carter is one of my favorite Americans. He's a good man (though not without his faults), but was not a good President.

                                                                                                #142.1 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:29 PM EDT

                                                                                                Carter, who gave the Panama Canal away, that we BOUGHT, built, and owned by the way. Carter, who oversaw an stagnant economy that still had massive inflation, with people paying 12-15% on home loans and 25-30% on credit cards. Carter that didn't have ANY IDEA how to handle the hostage situation in Iran and supported the fundamentalist Islamics taking over the country (calling them "moderates"). Carter who cancelled pay raises to people that lay their life on the line 24/7 for this country. Carter, who installed solar panels in the White House to "save energy", that ended up being more costly to maintain than the cost of the energy they "saved". Carter, who brought back the draft. Carter perceived by not only every nation on Earth, but by the people of his own nation as being weak. Carter, the ANTI-SEMITE, who actually supports Palestinian terrorists.

                                                                                                Yep, he's wonderful.

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                                                                                                #142.2 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:39 PM EDT

                                                                                                Thoughts on JFK Cheryl?

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                                                                                                #142.3 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:47 PM EDT

                                                                                                Thoughts on Bill Clinton Cheryl?

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                                                                                                #142.4 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:49 PM EDT
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                                                                                                Cheryl, are you The Church Lady?

                                                                                                  Reply#143 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:48 PM EDT

                                                                                                  ED Thank you well put.

                                                                                                    Reply#144 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:46 PM EDT

                                                                                                    Yeah, that Church lady comment was outstanding! Applause, applause!

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                                                                                                    #144.1 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:09 PM EDT
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                                                                                                    Trump is out of his mind. Reagan was the worse president in our nation's history. His moronic "cut taxes and borrow" philosophy started this economic mess we find ourselves in.

                                                                                                      Reply#145 - Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:26 PM EDT

                                                                                                      Finally, the birthiers & tea partiers have a " saviour" and "king of all tea party kings & Queens(mama grizzly, Bauchman,Sharron Agnel, O'Donnell & Co).But who's more moronic, Palin or Trump?!!!.

                                                                                                      Once again, one more proof: the birtheirs/tea partiers are but a bunch of fanatical morons who will follow anything and anybody like a folk of sheep. For those who ranted, pontificated & fornicated with these crazies; claiming their principled stance on small government,spending,debt and the deficit;what principle does Trump hold other than his big, foul mouth?.

                                                                                                      For the birthiers & tea partiers, anything white who rants the loudest anti-Obama obscenity is their God & Goddess. Across the country we've seen & witnessed how they worshipped their Goddes:Palin, Angel, O'Donnell.Now, it's Lord Trump, The Land-Lord & the comedian-turned politician. Only te mentally-challenged &tortured souls can follow such a fraud!!.

                                                                                                        Reply#146 - Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:22 PM EDT

                                                                                                        The righties rant: you spend too much, tax too much, is as empty a doctrination bereft of sound economic theory, as their other claims: the health-care scare of "death penals". Cheryllm is just a typical & blind follower of Foxnews; parroting the usual conservative cabbage.

                                                                                                        What the USA economy needs today is not some failed policies of the past: tax-cuts and spending cuts; rather tax more particularly the rich, who gotten all the tax-cuts of the last 8 years under Bush. they should pay back what they "looted" from treasury and ordinary folks in exhorbitant mortgages, credit card fees,gas prices, corporate subsidies, tax evasion & loopholes.Is it not a scandal that not one tea partier finds it offensive that GE never paid a dime in taxes while ammassing an obscene 14 billion in profits while the average Joe was sinking in debt and foreclosure???.

                                                                                                        Politics apart, economic theory stipulates in a recession, where there's lack of "effective demand"; the private- sector will not spend because no sane business will invest where there is no customers(meaning demand). therefore, the State must intervene and spur demand.

                                                                                                        Uneducated commentors like Cheryllm think that's socialism, socialism!!!. Does she even know the definition of socialism???.

                                                                                                        Lets use elementary comparative analysis between USA, a capilalist economy and China, a socialist command economy.Unlike the tea party USA; China employed keynessian economics and spend more than 2 trillion dollars and they got themselves out of recession.

                                                                                                        Obama, perpetually lost in finding his Identity, as to whether he's a progressive or tea patier; hounded by birthiers cries of illegitimacy & tea-party cries of socialism; surrendered and gave in whole by deciding to follow the rants of the the tea party(tax-cuts & spending freeze). And the USA is still suffocating under recession & the incurable disease called "tea-partism!!!.

                                                                                                        Always compromising & weak, I miss George Bush "stay the course" and strength of convictions!!!. Now he wants another 4 yeras. That is worse than torture!!1.

                                                                                                          Reply#147 - Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:19 PM EDT

                                                                                                          Whenever I hear the wolf at the door, I read comments like these and understand that there are people out there who haven't a clue. The wolf is in their house and they are walking around unable to believe or accept it. What can we do to fix our problems if voters don't understand them? If they vote with their gut rather than their head? This country is going to be in deep poo poo if voters don't wake up to reality and hire leaders who understand the problems and have the guts to do what must be done regardless of losing votes or power. Trump isn't necessarily the guy, but he would be doing a hell of a lot better job than the King of Teleprompters. We don't need someone who is led by the nose by polls. The answers to our problems are clear, but political career-killers. How do we find the guy/girl who has the "right stuff" to handle the problems?

                                                                                                            Reply#148 - Fri Apr 22, 2011 4:52 PM EDT

                                                                                                            Ok so this article talks about Trump changing viewpoints on some issues. What person doesn't in their life. Roe vs. Wade, pro-choice, now she's pro-life. What about John Kerry, he flip-flopped so many times, usually in the same sentence.

                                                                                                            Obama is not anything spectacular nor really cares about any of us. He cares about himself and his agenda. The last "almost" govt. shutdown we were going to have just a few weeks ago. He threatened to not pay the military!!! What commander-n-chief does that?????? The military is scrammbling for more people now, Obama certainly isn't helping their recruitment efforts.

                                                                                                            I don't care that he's democrat, or even if he was republican when I say this about him. I just don't care for him at all, and why should I?? He doesn't care for me or my country.

                                                                                                            He and Bill Ayers need to ride of into the sunset together to the far corners of Earth and leave America alone. Oh wait, that's right he dropped him and Reverend Wright like hot potatoes once his associations were coming into the light. Good political move Obama.

                                                                                                            OBAMA=SISSY IN THE WHITEHOUSE

                                                                                                            OBAMA=SISSY IN THE WHITEHOUSE

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                                                                                                            Reply#149 - Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:22 PM EDT

                                                                                                            We don't live in a monarchy, HE did not promise to not pay the soldiers, that was the other party stomping their feet, ranting raving, foaming at the mouth that nothing will get done unless they got their way. You might want to do a little more research on who treated the troops with more dignity, whether out in the field or in a V.A hospital, they've actually received better treatment under Obama than Bush. Hell, the last regime couldn't even keep up with the lip service they were giving with to concerns to equipment. Remember all the humvees whose armour couldn't stop even stop a .22 bullet? Or the fact that a lot of us had to send our loved ones better bullet proof vest, because the ones that military issued couldn't stop a dart? Your thought are misguided, if you don't like the current president, thats fine, just don't hide behind the soldiers to boost your point.

                                                                                                              #149.1 - Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:02 PM EDT
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                                                                                                              Its funny how they supported the last president even when a lot of what the "regime" was doing didn't quite pass the smell test. Its also funny how support for him by his staunchest supporters never wavered and actually INCREASED as time went on. Remember these people telling us the fantasy conclussion that it was somehow bad to change presidents during a war? I've never heard of anything more stupid, especially if the war was going as bad as it was under the last president. Now all of a sudden people who said he was doing a splendid job while in office is suddenly turning on him. Where were you Donald when he was actually in office making all those blunder? Oh...yeah..you were standing in line with all the other corporate raiders, receiving government handouts.

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                                                                                                              Reply#150 - Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:45 PM EDT

                                                                                                              Lies flushed through the brain is printed out as truth, hatread and demagoguery tends to be the right way of the political discuss....all hiden secreat of the mind of haters and the wicked cum merciless of our society were exposed too, sponsored by the gready few fortunate that were constantly agaist fairness and equity.

                                                                                                              Obama inherit bad stocks declination, signifying deflation...they say this is his economy, he pull it back from its downfall they say its our money, he save the auto company they say thats Americans but at first they say let them die..Economy on free fall was saved too they say its socialist....if he is for it they are against it, if he is against it they are just for it...i know he probably the most opposed president ever, but yet most successfull considering those that wish him failure from the jump. little wonder we now know their agendas. They probably want what he got....Obama the President of the most powerfull nation and the richest country in the entire world....hehe.

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                                                                                                              Reply#151 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 12:49 AM EDT

                                                                                                              I get the feeling Trump has visions of Ceasardom.... Too bad the country is ripe for it.

                                                                                                                Reply#152 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 12:10 PM EDT

                                                                                                                I would like to preface this statement with the following disclaimer. I am NOT a supporter of Obama's. The man's a well meaning fool in my book. Inept at best. Who, like most politicians, have absolutely no idea how to face the challenges threatening this nation. Especially in this distressingly and self destructively partisan political reality. And on a tangent, why do we constistantly re-elect the same idiots who got us into this mess on a platform that they will fix it???????? Are we really, collectively, that stupid? Makes one fear for the future of the species.

                                                                                                                Anyrate, I agree with many who said a lot of the flak our current president gets is largely along racial lines. In the sense that it is a change. Largely purely a superficial one based on the tone of the man's skin since as best I can tell the man is really not all that much different from the clowns that came before him. And a massive change at that for country that still have citizens alive that remember living under segregation laws. And change scares people at the best of times. We are after all, mostly, creatures who absolutely love the comfortable illusion of our idealised past.

                                                                                                                I've personally seen the spin aimed at the president by those who obviously never wanted to give the man a chance. Not that I argue he deserves one but at least I made a attempt at being unbiased. But, when someone illogically blames the current president for economic hardship that was based on the bad descisions and outright corruption of others. *Shrub Jr and his allowing the oil companies to get away with claiming "they MUST raise gas prices" to record record profits in the trillions to name one example. It's pretty obvious there's a bias.

                                                                                                                  Reply#153 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 12:27 PM EDT

                                                                                                                  You ever hear his say anything about HELPING the middle class...i held a job for over 20 years and never made over 35 k...with 4 kids that makes me a pauper...heat or eat...2 kids at a time for new shoes...$4.00 a/gal. for gas...having to have the kids eat breakfast at school... im a proud veteran. hard to hold my head up at times, and i tell you... D.Trumpet is a hatefull, obnoxious person. HES ONE OF THEM RICH BITCHES THAT DOESNT PAY TAX. AND heaven forbid, you should grow old, or get sick... if yer an AMERICAN like me...the idea of the dream is not a reality..all i ever wanted to do was survive.work 1 full, and 2 pt.time jobs. not let the kids feel like poor folks and he wants us old lazy sickass folks to... get to work...and/quit complaining..i havent had an increase in Soc.Sec. in 4 yrs....and now he wants to cut medicare too.. Gosh...i just had a stroke....and i could be livin in the street. A veteran,father, and a pain in the ass to the Republicker party.... And in my 63 years... W Bush is the worst president EVER...IN MY history. slick

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                                                                                                                  Reply#154 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 3:59 PM EDT

                                                                                                                   

                                                                                                                  Wealthy people have lost sight how to energize the economy. Example: Donald Trump claims to have 7 Billion Dollars and if he would just spend one billion back into the economy. Bill Gates, who has 92 Billion Dollars could spend 5 Billion dollars back into the economy, Warren Buffet, who has 47 Billion Dollars spend five billion back into the economy and there are countless other billionaires, millionaires who could spend billions or millions back into the economy. Those dollar amounts wouldn't affect them at all. But they won't do it, because they have to make money investing it instead.  Another example: CEOs who would rather accept a 5 to 25 million dollar bonus instead of using that money to save their employee's jobs. You see America, the wealthy are not in it for the working class, but would rather lay you off and accept their bonuses.  The economy would recover if only 'all of the wealthy people' started spending some of their wealth.  God knows the middleclass doesn't have enough money to spend any more.

                                                                                                                    Reply#155 - Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:25 AM EDT

                                                                                                                    Wealthy people have lost sight how to energize the economy. Example: Donald Trump claims to have 7 Billion Dollars and if he would just spend one billion back into the economy. Bill Gates, who has 92 Billion Dollars could spend 5 Billion dollars back into the economy, Warren Buffet, who has 47 Billion Dollars spend five billion back into the economy and there are countless other billionaires, millionaires who could spend billions or millions back into the economy. Those dollar amounts wouldn't affect them at all. But they won't do it, because they have to make money investing it instead. Another example: CEOs who would rather accept a 5 to 25 million dollar bonus instead of using that money to save their employee's jobs. You see America, the wealthy are not in it for the working class, but would rather lay you off and accept their bonuses. The economy would recover if only 'all of the wealthy people' started spending some of their wealth. God knows the middleclass doesn't have enough money to spend any more.

                                                                                                                      Reply#156 - Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:26 AM EDT
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