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As the debate raged in Washington over a budget to keep the government from shutting down, the issue of abortion funding was consistently in the spotlight.
Ultimately, Democrats succeeded in retaining funding for women's health organizations that also provide abortions (like Planned Parenthood), but they were not able to eliminate a controversial 'rider' related to abortions in D.C.
A senior Democratic aide says that on Thursday night at the White House, President Barack Obama told House Speaker John Boehner that the White House would include the D.C. abortion language that was in a Republican House-passed one week extension bill. That provision bans the District of Columbia from using its own local tax money to pay for abortion services.
The aide says he witnessed the president say to Speaker Boehner in the Oval Office, "John, I will give you D.C. I'm not happy about it."
But when Boehner later asked for the elimination of funds for Title X -- spending for women's health and family planning organizations that also provide abortion services, the aide said the president flatly refused.
The president replied, "Nope. Zero."
Boehner continued to push to discuss the funds, the aide recalled.
The President repeated: "Nope. Zero."
"'John, this is it,'" the aide described the president as saying. "'This is it, John."
There was a long pause as no one spoke in the Oval Office spoke.
The Planned Parenthood issue was resolved that Thursday night.
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Joe. It is people like tea part Joe that makes me think Obama will be reelected by a landslide. Lets see, they have alienated, women, unions, gays, hard working shrinking middle class Americans, the 9.9% that lost their jobs due to the excesses of the previous administration, whom they did not want to provide unemployment compensation for. Obama will need to work on the undereducated like Joe. Maybe not.
we lost our jobs thanks to Obama.....hows that $4 gas ans 9% unemployment working out for ya???
Joe, how stupid are you. Oil was at 140.00 a barrel during the Bush adm. The Unemployment came from the recession that started in 2007 or weren't you born yet.
Just wait until the Ryan-drafted GOP budget proposal is taken up for next year. No matter who they run, the slash and burn budgetary proposals will alienate virtually everyone as it offers no moderation and is completely devoid of any common sense. Further, the GOP-protected sacred cows remain untouched while everything else is free game. I not only think Obama will be re-elected, but if this plan of action is carried forward by Republicans, there is a strong possibility that Democrats will regain control of congress again in 2012. A bit of humility would help the GOP immensely but the latent arrogance will serve to their undoing.
pj: when bush left office it was about 1.80 a gallon...don't let facts get in the way of your ideology...you democrats neve rdo...oh and the last republican congress deficiit was around 130 BILLION...
WRONG JOE Clinton left Bush with a 124 billion in surplus. Bush left Obama with a 1.3 trillion deficit. These are GAO numbers. You know the numbers conservatives like to use.
Joe, I can understand why you lost you job. The funny farm was being defunded by the teas.
pj: I haven't lost my job...i'm still paying taxes so you can get a welfare check..you should thank me...
and who was running congress when Clinton left office?? oh yeah the republicans...and who was running congress when bush left office??? oh yeah the democrats....
Joe,
You are only brainwashed. Dry it and use it now. A parrot could replace you. It is better to be educated than trained.
affinity: you're a typical brain-dead democrat, easily led and uneducated.
you still believe you can spend your way to prosperity...and obama cares...LOL
Oh how cute, dems and repubs throwing their poop at each other. Ever tried problem solving?
0blamer will win 12 states plus DC - the rest will be a sea of Red. Liberals don't realize the change that occurred across the country in 2010.
Apparently Joe likes to pull "facts" ( cough cough) from his ASS.
Here are the REAL facts/figures:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_by_U.S._presidential_terms
smc: looks like the truth hurts...oh and how about the 3 TRILLION your coke-head precedent has added to the deficit in 2 short years??
and your chart is misleading...it shows debt to gdp not the amount added to the debt by president...no surprise you have to mislead...
Joe-3041821,
The OVERWHELMING majority of the country is NOT rich or comfortable. And...it is the overwhelming majority of those folks who pay taxes.....not the rich. Sooo.what makes you think the rich pay taxes, stupid????
yeah and the democrats want to keep it that way.
the rich pay most of the taxes, far in excess of their adjusted gross income...but hey you libs never let facts get in the way of your ideology...
As the data below show, incomes reported by tax returns at the high end of the income spectrum plummeted from 2007 to 2008, as did their share of the nation's income and income taxes paid. In 2008, the top 1 percent of tax returns paid 38.0 percent of all federal individual income taxes and earned 20.0 percent of adjusted gross income, compared to 2007 when those figures were 40.4 percent and 22.8 percent, respectively. Both of those figures—share of income and share of taxes paid—were their lowest since 2004 when the top 1 percent earned 19 percent of adjusted gross income (AGI) and paid 36.9 percent of federal individual income taxes.
taxfoundation.org /news/show/250.html
Joe, Now you are talking, the recession started in 2007, by the end of 2009 401K's lost 75% and your house was worth 8.00. Remember Bush approved the first bail-outs. They knew the economy was destroyed. So when you mention the 9% unemployment you are only showing your stupidity.
who cares if bush approved the bailouts? they were wrong...bush was a big government liberal...if he was a democrat you would have LOVED him.
and why was the economy destroyed? oh yeah CRA..fannie freddie...
when bush left office your savior said if we just passed PORKULUS unemployment would stay under 8%...bet you were stupid enough to believe him...you democrats are uneducated and easily led....
The more I hear arguments from the right the more I understand that hatred starts at home, and has found it's home in the spirits of people from the right.
No facts all bs with talking points from the most syndical among you....nothing original or something you know to be fact.
Abortions, while I don't approve, will continue to vote in support of the choice, which isn't paid for by tax $$$ accept in extreme emergencies. Further, this nation's debt was created by Republican tax cuts, which has never nor will ever trickle down. Do we need to cut spending? Yes, but not on the backs of the poor, hence separating America, a country born with an idea of Uniting, so the problem is all Americans - we should all sacrifice.
The more I hear liberals whine, the less I understand them. Can 20% of America's population be this ignorant and self delusional?
Oh Oh. You gave yourself away.
It appears Joe has taken his crying towel and left.
pj i thing joe needs to run for office on the tparty platform,seems to fit right in don't ya think?
not yet, I'm having too much fun making you look stupid...not that its very hard mind you...LOL
Joe, Who is looking stupid. I have never heard such nonsense in my life. I hope you are representative of the teas. Obama will win by a landslide.
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Joe is a true dittohead. The truth is limiting. and whatever the blimp says I believe.
And his doing the same thing his idol does on the air.
Do you actually have any real thoughts of your own, Joe?
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pj: you're the one looking stupid with your unsubstantiated talking points. yeah the democrats kept congress in a landslide in 2010 too...LOL
william: yeah I think you're a typical brain dead lying democrat who wouldn't know the truth if it bit ya.
pj1776,
It seems to me that if Obama wins in 2012 (regardless of the number of votes)... (hold that thought).
Let's say the probability of the Reps keeping control of the House is high. The probability of the Reps gaining the Senate is much greater than the Dems keeping the Senate - right?
Therefore, let's say the Reps keep the House and gain the Senate - and Obama wins. How much power will Obama really have? The oddest thing (to me) is after 2+ years of bashing Bush, Obama is making his 1st term as Bush's 3rd term. I don't know your feelings of GWB but if they are like many liberals you were not in favor of Bush and you should NOT want to vote for Obama, and if you do want Obama to win (and will vote for him) how do you justify it?
I'm an Independent. And no matter how bad ANY Dem does... I will NEVER EVER EVER vote for a Republican. EVER. Republicans stand for everything that is AGAINST the working middle class, against women, against Separation of Church and State, against safe food, clean air and water, against the environment, against education and everything that is good, decent and compassionate. IMO they don't have ONE, not ONE redeeming quality. The WORST Dem is 1000000 x better than the BEST Republican.
LOL sure you are...you're a brain-dead democrat....you obviously need someone to do your thinking for you.
The sad part is I doubt the speaker realized just what he was asking for or how embarrassing his behavior was. He was talking to someone who probably has seen a lot more of the communities who need operations like planned parenthood than Boehner will ever hear about in his sheltered life.
oh yeah I'm sure you think the black community needs groups like planned parenthood that take donations to kill black babies....your racism is showing...
Something like that......it really has to do more with religious infiltration in the black communities. I mean, there are plenty of poor white people around too, but poverty alone is only a single barrier to getting birth control, whereas being in a super religious community (like predominately black communities on the south side) is a second, much higher barrier. And of course this is an issue in the south as well, which is something neither Obama nor Boehner probably know a lot about.
oh yeah Margaret sanger had people of color in her crosshairs....ever hear of the n e g ro project??
No. But for Margaret Sanger......so you are saying that one of the first birth control activists targeted African American communities? What is wrong with that? No one is making them take it, but the fact that it caught on and became so wildly popular should speak for itself. This country is overpopulated. Most southern states could use a refresher in birth control, too actually.
if you like racism and eugenics I guess nothing is wrong with that...I don't like either though...but then I'm not a democrat.
Oh? I'm quite confused then. I thought we were reversed. I figured I was conservative because I will be paying the tuition for my kids to go to private high school, whereas you (I assume) will be using the public school system and asking for handouts from the government to get your kids the high school tuition. Hmm.....maybe conservatism isn't the same everywhere? I would hate to compare our views on taxes......
no surprise you have to switch the subject very quickly...LOL
lets get back to the subject...you think the country is overpopulated...you know sanger thought the same thing...its why she started planned parenthood...to get rid of those 'unevolved' people of color...you know...its why Hitler was such a fan....hillary is too...isn't that interesting?
Actually it wasn't a switch. You thesis depended upon who belonged to what party as stated in your previous post. I conclusively deny you can be a conservative and send your kids to public school (at least that's how my small red state viewed it when I was growing up).
As for me knowing why she started it, no I don't, as I wasn't there (although you might have been there since you still say LOL as opposed to lqtm). Nonetheless, I support it. More than 2 kids for anyone today is questionable. The only thing that devalues humanity is its number. Do you think there would be abortions if there were only a handful of people in the world? No, there wouldn't be.
who cares where I send my kids...my tax money supports the public schools...whether I like it or not.
of course you support it...you should be ashamed of your racism and eugenics is what hitler practiced.
the only thing that devalues humanity is the attitude of people like you...you should be ashmed of yourself.
I'm sure you have a FINAL SOLUTION in mind for the 'population problem'
I can see you are becoming frustrated........it's true that my home state has a pretty strict definition of who is and isn't a conservative. I'm afraid you just don't meet the criteria. But it's ok.....look on the bright side: after today, you'll at least know enough not to say LOL anymore. Lqtm.
frustrated? sickened is the word...you're evil and vile
I don't understand how anyone could embrace racism and eugenics...you would have fit in well in nazi germany....and you're a good little fascist democrat today...no surprise.
Don't pout. You just finally ran across a bigger troll than you. And by the looks of the last few pages, it's something that is past overdue.
I want an answer to a much bigger problem. What the hell does lqtm mean! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!
I gave it up above where you asked.
Thanks, I feel much better now.
Joe... there's no such thing as a fascist democrat. Republicans are FASCISTS.
smc: as you democrat union thugs showed in WI, you're the party of fascism...did you starch your brown shirt today and polish your jack-boots?
Wow! I'd get one if I wasn't afraid to leave my car in Walmart's parking lot. Windows broken? A bomb? OMG!
Sorry, I was replying to the new bumper sticker that said: Tea parties are for little girls with imaginary friends!
That is funny
seems like these same people who are suddenly SO concerned about the debt didn't give a F about $40 billion a month in Iraq for 8 years when they were at the helm. also very coincidental that the last time we had a gov't shutdown issue was back in '95 when the GOP only held 1/3 of power.
good post
The Iraq War in it's entirety doesn't even add up to the amount wasted on one piece of legislation (the 2009 stimulus package). The GOP was reckless with spending. but Obama and the Democrats brought it to new and terrifying heights. You can't compare GOP deficit spending to Democratic avarice of the last 2+ years.
You need to link your claims. Every website I just googled cited the HCR as a deficit reducer. I can't find one (not even fox) that says otherwise.
Oh, really, LastBrain? I'd like to see your math on that one. Because, I'm thinking you left a few things out.
Show your work.
I like how this is worded to make it seem Obama won and Boehner caved. Boehner never intended to cut funding for PP and we all know it. Obama was allowed to use it to save face. Boehner and the GOP absolutely destroyed the Democrats in this negotiation. Deep down, every liberal knows it.
That's what all the liberals are already saying, yes. Unless you are a liberal your comment is rather out of place. Every conservative website on the net is talking about getting Boehner out with a primary. The other possibility is that you don't frequent any of the more detail-oriented, smaller news sites out there and you thought this up by yourself and figured you would share it.
You are full of $heet - Boehner won't even draw a challenger on the Repub side.
Probably not....he is well connected and it wouldn't make sense to challenge him....but I don't think you realize how large a category the republicans have become. The tea party is mad. I'm not making predictions, but as a hobby I do hop around the small liberal and conservative sites. Spend some time with google. I think it's interesting, that's all.
If we can afford to subsidize oil companies by giving them enormous tax breaks then we can afford aid to poor women for family planning. I'm so proud of our president for standing up for Title X. I've got my Obama 2012 envelope and I'm getting out my checkbook. Go'Bama!
how can you support an organization, planned parenthood, that accepts donations to kill black babies?
Me too rc.
Joe its easy, with a stroke of a pen.
I know...the democrats are the party of racism, slavery jim crow, and the KKK..
Well the truth is we can't afford any subsidizing period whether it be for the oil companies, farmers, NPR, PPH, or whatever. This includes military hardware we don't need, Libya, corporate welfare, tax shelters off shore, etc, etc, etc. CBO projects over 2000 + billion dollars in deficits by 2021 so we ought to get used to the idea that we aren't the big boys on the block financially anymore. China, Saudi Arabia, and a host of other countries owns our debt which even at the meager interest rate we have now costs us over 4 billion dollars per day in interest payments. Get used to it, we are a begger nation who couldn't even fund our own military if there weren't other nations willing to finance our debt. Take 100% of everyones total paycheck who makes over 100k per year, and 100% of the whole military budget and you still wouldn't come close to solving our debt problem. The solution is apparently to just keep spending, and let the next generation, or two, or three, or four pay for it.
joe-
Those are the Dixiecrats that bolted the Democrat Party over civil rights laws and tuned the segregationist states from blue to red. Welcome to the new Mississippi - all red. The folks aren't proud to be Rednecks for nothing.
affinity: you mean like SHEETS BYRD?? or joe 'clean and articulate' biden? or harry 'n e g r o dialect' reid?
You guys are wasting your money donating to 0blamer. He wins HI, CA, OR, WA, IL, MI, NY, VT, CT, RI, DE, MD and DC. That is 12 states plus DC - everything else is a sea of Red and 0blamer goes back to community organizing for Rahmbo in Chicago.
I will write down your prediction. Right off the bat I promise he will take MN. On the other hand, I don't know why you automatically gave him OR or WA....that was foolish and will not necessarily happen.
Joe...it's too bad they weren't targeting Republican babies. I'd sell my house and cash in my 401K to donate the money to that cause.
smc; your parents regret to this day they didn't abort you.
40bil a month for 8 yrs is 3.84 trillion...not exactly a small number LBL
It is about time President Obama said NO to the Republicans. We all need to start saying NO to them. No more Tax Breaks for the Wealthy, No more subsidies to Big Oil, No more Tax Breaks to Corporations Outsourcing Jobs or using Offshore Tax Havens. The Republicans cling to a failed economic model and come Hell or Highwater they are determined to cram it down all of our throats.
Last: The Iraq war in its entirety, including veteran's benefits far into the future, is estimated to cost 3 trillion dollars. We could even have absorbed that had your hero not given everybody, but especially the rich, a tax cut at the same time he started two wars. Nothing Obama and the Democrats could ever do would equal that idiocy.
2012 the only reasonable out come is Mr.Obama,and i do mean reasonable. Get out an VOTE.
high gas prices and unemployment for all!!! its a great platform to run on!!
He's not running for Wall Street petroleum speculator in chief. Gasoline - starts as petroleum that is shipped, futures speculation sets the barrel price - petroleum is cracked, separated, and sold as gasoline, oils, fuels, and petrochemicals - cost yields price. Cost includes risk taking speculation in uncertain times. Spring price increases are based on supply, demand, and replacement estimations are an annual fact of life.
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Obama did it this time, last time Bush didn't do it, but before him Clinton did.
he's running on his record...high gas prices, high unemployment...failed foreign policy...failed presidency.
why do you libs hate working people so much?
--Number of job losses per month when Obama took office: 700,000
--Number of job gains last month: 216,000
--GDP decline when Obama took office: minus 6%
--GDP last year: 2.9% positive growth
--Dow Jones when Obama came into office: 8,000
--Dow Jones now: 12,300
0blamer will win 12 states plus DC - it won't even be close.
LMAO Joe... if there's ANYONE who hates/loathes/despises working people... it's your beloved Capitalist-Fascist Rethuglicons. Wake up ... they don't give a rat's ASS about YOU.
smc: hows that $4 a gallon gas and 9% unemployment working out for ya? oh yeah thats right you just get welfare so you don't have to worry about it.
as far as fascists...your coke-head precedent taking over GM, the banks and the insurance companies..I would say get a clue, but if you could you wouldn't be a fascist stooge democrat
Jaime R- You are exactly right. And every time Congress has tried to correct the defects the Republicans have Voted NO almost to a person. Cutting spending is just a portion of the solution. We have got to increase revenue and cut military spending as well as cutting spending. This country is not going to be able to solve the budget problems off the poor, old, disabled and young. What we have to have is "Shared Sacrifice".
if you want to increase tax revenue you lower the rates...as bush proved, and clinton proved with the capital gains tax cut..as reagan and kennedy proved...but don't let facts get in your way...they'd kick you out of the democrat party.
Example: The Democrats are cutting (efficiency and savings) Medicare by 500 billion dollars! You are losing your benefits!
Now: Let's gut Medicare and throw people back to the costs, elimination, and abuses that were the reason it was designed in the first place. Give the elders a down-payment for services they are denied or cannot possibly afford.
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I;ve seen ten presidents come & go, None of them has had as much to deal with as Obama.
and he's spent so much time on those problems....with his golf game...
0blamer has shown no leadership on any issue that he has faced. That is why it seems like he has had a lot of things thrown his way. He hasn't been given really anything that every other POTUS has been given.
Death and taxes are certain. But Republican dogma will again cut taxes for the wealthy, and now increase death for the poor. The middle class will pay for government, as always.
the rich pay most of the taxes to take care of you...you should thank them.
Try to profile that assertion by including the bare facts and you will come up with a different case.
The wealthy do not get and stay wealthy by ignoring every opportunity to save or make money. Don't expect their rescue because of your veneration and superstition. Yours is a groundless belief system a parrot could be trained to preach.
the wealthy pay for all your stupid liberal programs. The top 10% pay 70% of the Federal Income taxes. The top 25% pay 90% of the taxes. The bottom 50% pay zero or get money given to them. STFU.
To all those who so casually support abortion and believe it is part of "women's health" and the women choice to terminate a life...have you actually observed an abortion? You should...maybe you won't treat it as such a casual "medical procedure". We've become so desensitized about abortion. Wacth a video that shows the arms and legs being ripped from a living fetus, its head being crushed...then tell me its just a casual medical procedure. How can we treat human life so casually? And yet we have a double standard at play: we can convict a murder of double murder if the woman he kills is pregnant, but if we just kill the fetus, its okay. Shame!
The Bible has nothing to say about abortion. It does, however, support
the painful mutilation practice of circumcision.
Some of the right-wingers had dreams of overturning the New Deal, after Republican Dwight Eisenhower was elected President.
(They were the Teabaggers of their time.) Eisenhower wouldn't go for it. In 1954, he said:
"Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate
labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history.
There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H. L. Hunt
(you possibly know his background), a few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or
businessman from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid."
Have you ever talked with a woman that is not imaginary? The reproductive system of a woman is not a factory with fragile life in it. A fetus is subject to arrested development, gross life ending birth defects, atopical and nonviable positioning, intrauterine death, incomplete miscarriage, major development anomalies, and the wrenching and informed decision of a pregnant woman, due to rape, incest, hopelessness, disease, and determined, personal decisions. There is always a struggle between instinct and reality. Women bare life within themselves and that life is precious. That is not a matter for outside scrutiny, invasion, intrusion, zealotry, force, or intimidation. It is also protected by individual's rights in the Constitution. And finally, it is nobody else's damn business.
Anti-abortion interference is just adding misery to the facts, including terrorism and murder at the extreme. People have the right to life, including their private life. Nobody else suffers the weight of pregnancy, the pain and struggle of childbirth, and the joys of motherhood but a woman. God and motherhood are in harmony.
You are not welcome, not informed, want to detract from the constitution, misguided, obnoxious, officious, arrogant, and an other mother.
Reagan said that deficits do matter and criticized Carter for them. Of course, Ronnie would become infamous
for tripling the National Debt. Cheney changed Republican orthodoxy by saying that deficits don't matter.
Cheney/Bush then went on to more than double the National Debt. Now that we have a Democratic President, Republicans
are returning to the old orthodoxy, saying that deficits do matter (except, of course, when tax cuts for the rich are at stake).
Mary...
Don't know your age and it really doesn't matter. However, you really need to be factual or you will lose all credibility. Depending on your age, you may remember that the dems (during the Reagan presidency) PROMISED to cut spending $2 for every $3 in taxes. Remember? And do you also remember that they did not. They lied and went back on their promise and thats why there was a big deficit...
Do not try to revise history. Do your research before spewing such drivel...
Just Saying...
Reagan chose to ignore the fact that his own Republican Party was in control of the Senate from January 1981 to January 1987, and that Congress actually spent less than what he originally had asked for.
tea-party-fan'
You are a vivid example of spewing drivel. When did a Republican ever cooperate with a Democrat plan, especially a campaign promise? It is not in their best interests. How do you think things got so absolutely counterproductive to their purpose? Why would Reagan sign a budget that was a deficit guaranteeing rocket? When has either party left, and turned everything over to the opposition to run?
I was in Washington throughout that period, before, and after and could share cold facts until you nodded off. Reagan was a nice guy and a special delight to my parents. One clear thing is he was who he was, without apology or explanation and there is no label for that.
His biggest mistake, in my opinion, was glibly saying,"The government IS the problem". the government is what it is. Politicians are the problem, and he would not disagree.
Get the picture?
Boehner didn't use the ace in the deck. In the moment that Mr. Obama publicly stated he would veto any budget which defunded Planned Parenthood, he became the extremist. He basically stated that he would hold up the entire federal budget, including payment to our troops, over a "small thing". Boehner could have used the pause to state that he was going to insert the Title X defunding clause, and the President could veto it or not as was his wish, but Mr. Boehner's caucus was nearly unified in its desire to have it in. I'm betting Mr. Obama would have flinched big time, and we would be crowing about an even bigger victory. Decoupling PP funding from the budget gives the Democrats the same lever that decoupling DOD funding from the budget would have given the Republicans. We've lost a very useful lever, and we will have to wait until 2012 to regain it.
"There's class warfare, all right, but it's my class, the rich class, that's making war,
and we're winning." --Warren Buffett, CNN Interview, May 25 2005,
in arguing for the need to raise taxes on the rich
Teabaggers, Libertarians and other "true conservatives" like Ron Paul need to start their own country
and show us how it's done. Oh wait !! ... they already have, in Somalia and Guatemala -- no income tax and no
unions. Libertarians love the paradise of Somalia where there are lots of guns, no government and no health care.
Defunding Planned Parenthood was NOT a small issue!!!!
If Warren Buffett or any of you liberals want to pay additional taxes you are more than welcome to do so. The Federal Govt will gladly cash your check when you mail it in. Better yet - don't claim your mortgage or charitable deductions either.
"Contrary to what those in power would like you to believe so that you'll give up your pension, cut your wages, and settle for the life your great-grandparents had, America is not broke. Not by a long shot. The country is awash in wealth and cash. It's just that it's not in your hands. It has been transferred, in the greatest heist in history, from the workers and consumers to the banks and the portfolios of the uber-rich. Today just 400 Americans have the same wealth as half of all Americans combined. Let me say that again. 400 obscenely rich people, most of whom benefited in some way from the multi-trillion dollar taxpayer "bailout" of 2008, now have as much loot, stock and property as the assets of 155 million Americans combined." --Michael Moore, speaking in Wisconsin, 5 March 2011
Mary...
YOu know, you could probably (maybe) be one of the filthy rich if you would get off your butt and do something. Well, on second, NOT. Its not in your genes, since you demand to take everyone else's money for yourself. You must think that is the easiest way, like most other progressives/socialist.
Enough Said...
Please quit quoting this closet socialist. He has millions himself, and as most leaders of this economic theory I would surely bet in his spreading the wealth plan his millions would conveniently be left off the redistribution list.
Michael Moore agrees that his millions should be taxed
at a higher rate, as during the Clinton years.
tea-party-fan
Show her how you did it. Sounds more like you are trying to bum a ride with a wealthy idiot. The wealthy are not idiots or they would be broke.
Republicans decide something will work, and they keep trying over and over and over to make it work, when it just may have no gas in it.
Robert Welch -- one of the original Teabaggers:
"But my firm belief that Dwight Eisenhower is a dedicated, conscious agent of the Communist conspiracy is based on an accumulation of detailed evidence so extensive and so palpable that it seems to me to put this conviction beyond any reasonable doubt."
--Robert Welch, co-founder of the right-wing John Birch Society, in a book titled, The Politician
Mary...
For awhile, I only thought you were misguided, but now, it is my belief that you are certifiable. You really need help. For anyone who thinks that the Tea Party is in anyway aligned with the communist, is not only stupid, its just plain crazy. You really need help.
Just Saying...
@Tax Evading American Party Fan ...apparently you don't read very well nor do you comprehend what you read. Who's plain crazy ? Try pulling your head out of your ass and read it again.
The decade of the 1990s, under Clinton, was much better for the middle class than the decade of 1980s
under Reagan, with lower unemployment and a longer economic expansion. The economy under Clinton even
produced budget surpluses, after Clinton raised the top marginal rate on millionaires/billionaires from 33 to 39 percent.
Reagan's economy, on the other hand, resulted in a tripling of the national debt -- a record. Thanks Ronnie.
The 1990's had the tech explosion due to Microsoft and others. Computer prices dropped like a rock and when the tech bubble burst in Dec 1999 we had the beginning of another recession. We can hope that the next Bill Gates & Steve Jobs arrive soon. Green energy isn't the next big thing-nor is anti-global warming technology.
Early in his presidency, Reagan chose as his economic advisers a group that espoused a radical economic theory called "supply-side." The supply-siders told Reagan that if he gave tax cuts to the top brackets (the wealthiest individuals) the positive effects would "trickle down" to everyone else. Tax cuts, they argued, would produce so much growth in the economy that America could simply outgrow its deficits. Reagan bought into supply-side theory, which is why in 1981 he predicted that there would be a "drastic reduction in the deficit."
However, Reagan soon discovered that his supply-side advisers were wrong. Tax cuts, instead of reducing the deficit, caused the deficit to balloon.
At this point, Reagan would change strategy. He would blame the U.S. Congress for the record deficits that accrued during his years in office. Reagan would say that Congress was responsible, because Congress did not slash spending enough--meaning social spending, since Reagan always championed increased military spending.
Reagan chose to ignore the fact that his own Republican Party was in control of the Senate from January 1981 to January 1987, and that Congress actually spent less than what he originally had asked for.
Federal deficits would continue unabated until the presidency of Bill Clinton when fiscal responsibility would finally be restored. President Clinton would achieve a balanced budget (and even record surpluses) in large measure by restoring higher taxes on the wealthy.
http://thereaganyears.tripod.com/economicpolicy.htm
I think it is a great idea to go back to the Clinton era tax rates. We would add millions to the tax rolls that were taken off by the Bush tax cuts. There are 47% who pay no Fed Income tax today. You realize that the bottom 98% will pay $330 billion in taxes per year and the top 2% will pay $70 billion per year more in taxes since most of the tax cuts went to the middle and lower classes.
While we are at it - lets go back to Clinton's last budget - the one that was submitted on-time in Oct 2000. That budget was just under $2 trillion dollars. A hell of a lot better than the $3.7 trillion 0blamer has been spending per year.
You don't get it do you ? If you raise taxes on the poor /lower/middle class, there goes a huge chunk of what little disposable/discretionary income they have. That means they STOP SPENDING and businesses go UNDER and unemployment goes UP.
They already have stopped spending. And what happened? Record unemployment, huge layoffs and record profits for nearly every major corporation in America.
I'm telling you the whole economy is going down the t........ wait a minute.........
You mean if I give tax breaks to the people who already pay the lowest percentage of the total taxes by using loopholes and tax dodges they DON'T hire new workers? They just take their money and sock it away in overseas bank accounts?
*this is my shocked face*
"There's class warfare, all right, but it's my class, the rich class, that's making war,
and we're winning." --Warren Buffett, CNN Interview, May 25 2005,
in arguing for the need to raise taxes on the rich
Teabaggers -- How's that trillion
dollar war for oil in Iraq working
out for you, with gas prices again
on the rise?
How's that guy who was supposed to end the war and close Gitmo?
Uh, Iraq is ending according to the treaty Bush signed, and GITMO turned out to be even more of a legal mess than anyone could have possibly imagined.
Now, why don't you TeaBagger trolls ever answer a question with anything but another question? Is that all that Kapitan Karl ever taught you in all of those "Howling Monkey Chorus" rehearsals?
Why is it that the only answer the left has is to call people name and think that is witty.
Uh, Ray, bad news: Just forgetting to use a question mark at the end of your question doesn't make it a statement. Thought you should know.
Now, kindly take that "teabag" out of your mouth, and try again.