'We have an agreement'

With under an hour and a half to go before a midnight deadline, House Speaker John Boehner announced that there is a deal to fund the government for the rest of the fiscal year and that a short-term stopgap measure will be approved tonight to stave off a government shutdown.

“I’m pleased that Senator Reid and I and the White House have been able to come to an agreement that will in fact cut spending and keep our government open,” he announced.

Boehner’s remarks came after a closed-door meeting during which the speaker presented a deal to House GOP members.  

Moments before he came to microphones to announce formally that a deal had been reached, a spokesman for Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid also tweeted “We have an agreement.”

Boehner said that a  “bridge” agreement will be approved tonight that will allow negotiators to put the brokered deal into legislative language and be presented for a vote next week.

In a joint statement, Boehner and Reid said:

“We have agreed to an historic amount of cuts for the remainder of this fiscal year, as well as a short-term bridge that will give us time to avoid a shutdown while we get that agreement through both houses and to the President. We will cut $78.5 billion below the President’s 2011 budget proposal, and we have reached an agreement on the policy riders.  In the meantime, we will pass a short-term resolution to keep the government running through Thursday.  That short-term bridge will cut the first $2 billion of the total savings.”

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Boehner Blinked!!!!

  • 18 votes
#1 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 11:18 PM EDT

people can say whateva they want about Reid... but he sure is tough.

  • 19 votes
#1.1 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 11:35 PM EDT

Reid lost big time, what numbers have you been looking at? Reid said he wanted to cut $7 billion at the most. He lost.

Reid, Pelosi and Obama were all in charge LAST year when this budget should have been passed. The liberals failed to do their jobs.

  • 16 votes
#1.2 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 11:43 PM EDT

Reid tough? In what way? He's bloody incompetent. President Round Heels wasn't going to accept another stopgap bill and *ding* here he is, rolling over yet again on his principles. Who can believe anything either of them say? Yeah, the Dems really messed up not dealing with this last year.

  • 7 votes
#1.3 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 11:43 PM EDT

Senator Boehner had warned the GOP freshmen that even Wisconsin had overreached. The GOP freshmen would not listen and overreached with the Planned Parenthood rider. That was their downfall. I think the next time around they will listen more closely to Boehner than the Tea Party. I think that Reid read them well. I even read the "tell" on the faces of the GOP freshmen when they stood in the background of Ryan's plan news releases. They all had the same grinning overconfidence to show their Tea Party campaign contributors that they were delivering their commitment.

  • 9 votes
#1.4 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 11:44 PM EDT

Great. So maybe next year we can think about real deficit reduction. It's always next year. Something has to change and soon. If the dems don't like the proposed cuts, recommend some that do not impact national security. It has to be done.

This is real money. We pay interest on the national debt; close to a billion dollars a day and rising. In a very short number of years, like 7, we will no longer be able to pay the interest without borrowing even more to do so. If we cut spending to zero, we would still have to borrow money.

This is very real. Tomorrow is too late to start fixing this.

  • 5 votes
#1.5 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 11:47 PM EDT

Congratulations to the Republicans... they are pushing these weak, dems right where they want them... can't wait for the budget for 2012, let's chop them down some more boys!

  • 6 votes
#1.6 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 11:54 PM EDT

Yeah, Boehner blinked. He's totally going to get snake bite for this. You said 66Billion. WTF?

  • 3 votes
#1.7 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:06 AM EDT

Whatever! Doesn't fix the Economy either way!
Fix the Economy! How many items do you own that are stamped MADE IN AMERICA? Out of 544 I counted I found two that where made in America!

Why Now? Companies could of sold out a 100 years ago? Why Now? In India they still have dirt floor houses welcome to your future! Capitalism that builds Communist Countries!

I can't wait till they sell America to China than we can find out who owns America!

American companies who place their label on Communist goods!

  • 2 votes
#1.8 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:10 AM EDT

We will cut $78.5 billion below the President's 2011 budget proposal

Thank you Boehner! Finally America has taken a step in the right direction.

  • 7 votes
#1.9 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:19 AM EDT

Thank God. I was so very worried who would listen in on my phone calls if the government were to shut down. Who will pay lazy people to not work? Who will let the illegal aliens in? Who will find new ways to raise my taxes? Who will spend trillions of dollars we do not have? We might have to stop bombing people in Libya. We might have to shut down a few of our 750 military bases worldwide. We could have to cut back on subsidies to farmers to not grow something. We could have to stop paying the UN to do stupid sh!t. Who would harass us with endless stupid regulations if the federal government were not there for us? I'm sure there is something others could add to this list.

  • 6 votes
#1.10 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:28 AM EDT

Only in the Soviet Union

    #1.11 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:40 AM EDT

    NO, he won.

      #1.12 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:54 AM EDT

      the dems going to blink again and again. They got minimal pork and will continue to lose it. Whatch and learn.

      The days of leftist spenders are over. Tea party Americans are in control.

      The left wants all on the backs of the weathy, when the wealthy are are already paying most taxes. I am not wealthy and never will be, but I support myself. What about you? Too lazy to support yourself? Then it is your problem. Can't live on welfare? Then get a job. Don't have health insurance? Too bad. No one ever guaranteed you health insurance in the constitution. Find your own free which doctor.

      How is that Sally? We all know you are as unbiased as an islamist jihadist.

      Ban me and prove it.

      • 1 vote
      #1.13 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 2:23 AM EDT

      Get off the self-righteous, delusional 'nobody works but me" b.s.

      Tea partiers in control?? What a joke. Go back to 5th grade--and learn some civics. R's control one half of one branch of Congress and the Tea partiers make up a fraction of that. Why do you think all the riders were rejected and the amount stayed the same in cuts as it was a month ago?

      America has seen these ignorant, angry know-nothings called Tea Partiers for what they really are, FINALLY through this ridiculous process (right, let's balance the budget by going after abortion and big bird-that'll "remake America".) All they've done is make Obama's re-election that much easier. No one wants these American Taliban partiers in charge of anything.

      • 9 votes
      #1.14 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 8:20 AM EDT

      Our heroes, they have been fighting this long and they "finally" managed to cut $20-$30 or $40 billion from a budget of over $3.5 TRILLION. We have a $1.6 TRILLION deficit for this year alone, how are we going to really start cutting? How long before we can't borrow any more? Our interest payment for our debt will be around $1 TRILLION by 2020. Our debt will NEVER be repaid and I am not even talking about future debt and these bozos fought and fought just to get less than $40 billion in cuts. What a joke. I guess Ben will keep working overtime running the printing presses.

      • 2 votes
      #1.15 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:58 PM EDT

      "I guess Ben will keep working overtime running the printing presses."

      Yep, especially after TurboTax Geithner gets back from Germany after suggesting to the European Central Bank folks they need to use the IMF funding to bailout Portugal's financial crisis in the tune of $ 122,000,000,000.

      And guess who is the prominent IMF "donor" for the EU bailouts and those poor and under-developed nations ? Yes, the U.S.

      Anytime Mr. Obama, the Secretary of the Treasury, the Secretary of the State, or "Benrnie" himself goes overseas, they open up the American Taxpayers wallet.

      So the American taxpayers gets hit from both sides of the pond: Domestically and Internationally.

      • 1 vote
      #1.16 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 2:35 PM EDT
      Reply

      Uh oh. The Tea Party is not happy.

      So much for Peace In Our Time.

      • 7 votes
      Reply#2 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 11:19 PM EDT

      Who cares, the Tea Party is not the majority. They are few and they are losing their bid for favorable treatment over all others with their campaign contributions to the GOP freshmen. This is the first slap down.

      • 16 votes
      #2.1 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 11:34 PM EDT

      The Tea Party forced cuts, unlike Obama who's budget projects a $30 TRILLION debt in 10 years. Just wait until the debt limit hits real soon, the liberals will be crying more than they are now.

      • 4 votes
      #2.2 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 11:38 PM EDT

      The Tea Party needs to be put in their place, and tonight that is what is happening

      Reid and Boehner and the White House came to an aggreement that is good.

      The Tea Party will not only be put in their place now but this sets the precedent for future

      negotiations.

      The Tea Party, just like Sarah Palin, are going going .....gone

      • 15 votes
      #2.3 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 11:49 PM EDT
      CardogDeleted

      Liberal hate mongral.

      • 3 votes
      #2.5 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:41 AM EDT

      You got that one correct.

        #2.6 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:55 AM EDT

        I'm sorry, I'm trying to understand all of your animosity towards a group of people who simply want some sort of control on the size and scope of government. The hatred is palpable. Are you that entrenched in your ideology that you cannot see what even prominent Democrats can see; that we are on a course to the most predictible financial crisis in history? We're watching the train head toward the edge of the cliff with plenty of time to break and you guys want to hit the gas. So the Tea Party wanted to cut $100 billion. Paul Ryan wants to cut $6.2 trillion over 10 years which averages out to $620 Billion a year; he's not a Tea Party guy. That is over six times the amount the Tea Party was pushing for this year. Are you going to call him an extremist? Last I heard, most Democratic members of congress hold him in high regard; they recognize his genius. Now you're not gonna hear that on MSNBC or the New York Times or the Huffington Post but regardless, it's true. Hate if you want, be as uncivil as you claim the right to be but there is logic and rationale here whether you like it or not. Something has to change.

        • 5 votes
        #2.7 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 1:08 AM EDT

        The english move out and the irish move in, Boston

          #2.8 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 1:14 AM EDT

          Gotta love the wishcasting by the Proggers. The Tea Party is driving this debate. Or maybe you Leftists think we would be talking about reducing the size of government if Nancy Pelosi still ran the House and Harry Reid had 59 votes in the Senate?

          • 2 votes
          #2.9 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 2:07 AM EDT

          This was only the appetizer in a much larger meal. (Or should I say smaller meal.) The budget cuts coming will be in the trillions. I find it laughable that pundits think this is a win for either the left or the tea favorites. It is neither. Rewind to just a few weeks ago. Many leaders were advocating more spending under the giuse of "investments." It is not an investment if it is borrowed money. That my friends is called a gamble and not unlike what they accuse Wall Street of doing with leveraged capital. Hypocrisy in the purest form. These are literally the first meaningful spending cuts in history. Small compared to the actual shortfall. And it is a symbol of government largess that may finally be getting a trend reversal.

          • 1 vote
          #2.10 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 11:24 AM EDT
          Reply

          What did Boehner have to promise the right wing to get their support?

          • 2 votes
          Reply#3 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 11:21 PM EDT

          He didn't. The GOP freshmen stand to lose mission accomplished campaign contributions bonuses from the Tea Party. I am sure that Senator Boehner is bruised from them.

          • 7 votes
          #3.1 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 11:36 PM EDT

          Born boomer,

          Speaker Boehner is a Congressman, not a Senator.

          • 1 vote
          #3.2 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 10:49 AM EDT
          Reply

          I am resolved, upon this day's revelations of a 68% GOP Tea Party speak threat to shut down our federal government, a not so majority, but putting our Nation on the brink. I also heard the poll of 2 to 1 among Republicans, Democrats and Independent voters against the Tea Party speak to shut it down. I do not believe that those freshmen GOPers really believed half of that Tea Party speak. When I saw Senator Boehner walk out of his last meeting with those freshmen, I could see that he had taken a dissenting barrage from those who had campaign contribution commitments with the Tea Party speaks. Tough! I am resolved to spend the rest of my life, volunteering to help educate the Young Adult Majority in my community through organizations including the Latino Americans, to help promote voter registration, and just as importantly teach my decades of identifying illogical argument from various harmful sources, to make better choices of what they read and listen to, and to help others register to vote and get out the vote. This is my resolve to help create the most politically astute majority this nation has ever known. The backlash is coming to you, Tea Party.

          • 17 votes
          Reply#4 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 11:24 PM EDT

          ElusiveIndependent

          Bless your little heart. I feel the same way although I am not able to organize any really big groups, however, I have sure gotten a lot more vocal with those I come in contact with. Just today I went to a the store and noticed "Bounty" paper towels there and mentioned to a woman that "Bounty" is a product of one of the Koch brother's industries, the same Koch brothers who supported Wisconsin's Gov Walker in taking away the state worker's right to collective bargain. I have no doubt that she will inform her friends and family--that is one thing really great about Americans in general--they actually like to act out when they believe things aren't right or fair.

          • 3 votes
          #4.1 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:15 AM EDT

          commoner, it may not be that difficult. Do the Google Search for "Latino American organizations and (your community name)". I found a local one tonight which offers many services including educational, so I will pay them a visit to tell them who I am and what I can offer as a volunteer for as many classes as are requested and suggest that if they have a volunteer who is bilingual to also learn from me what we can develop together. I want to develop a short instructional course from my own blogs and then conduct sample exercises. Can you see me standing in front of Young Adult Latino American citizens reading sample's of illogical rhetoric until someone in the class recognizes the illogical element(s), and then discuss them? I will love it. Maybe I can include some audio samples like from really bad ass radio talk show hosts, but you know there are many sources which I have monitored for decades out of curiosity or wanting to find confirmation of my analysis. I red flag it and rule it out of quality information sources. Why do I prowl the blogs on news? Because I constantly find mimics of the bad sources on blogs. I can identify what sources they are mimicing, so I know that they have already been dumb downed. I don't want to see my students become dumb downed.

          • 1 vote
          #4.2 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 4:44 AM EDT
          Reply

          I hope that Planned Parenthood was saved. I will never vote for the GOP/Teabagger/Christian Taliban again.

          • 14 votes
          #5 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 11:37 PM EDT

          Please tell me why you think Planned Parenthood should be paid by federal tax dollars. Oh, that's right, it's not in the constitution...

          • 2 votes
          #5.1 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 11:40 PM EDT

          Either is subsidizing the oil industry . But their coroprate welfare was never in jeapordy

          • 10 votes
          #5.2 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 11:44 PM EDT

          promote the general welfare... ensuring that the population is healthy... particularly if it prevents wards of the state... seems to apply.

          • 7 votes
          #5.3 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 11:46 PM EDT

          agree 100%, corp welfare needs to go too. our country needs to do serious cuts before we don't have a country

          • 6 votes
          #5.4 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 11:46 PM EDT

          I agree Mark

          • 4 votes
          #5.5 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 11:48 PM EDT

          PP gets only .008 % (a lot less than even 1%) of the federal budget and the law already prohibits any federal funds from being used for abortion consults. PP provides basic health care to poor women, children and men. It has been funded by the Fderal government (in part) since Nixon in 1972. It reflects a simple gesture of humanity toward those less fortunate. Get over your teabagger greed and ignorance!Sorry if it's not a corporation whose taxes you teabaggers can reduce!

          • 14 votes
          #5.6 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 11:48 PM EDT

          Lefty, you are reminding me of some unsavory radio talk show hosts who I turn my radio dial away from.

          • 3 votes
          #5.7 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 11:51 PM EDT

          When the republicans in Congress are ready to cut the following, then we'll know that they're serious about reducing the deficit: 1) huge subsidies to the oil, gas, coal and mining industries; 2) subsidies to corporate farms for not growing crops; 3) $3 billion a year dumped into Star Wars for 30 years, with nothing to show for it; 4) giving away grazing rights on federal lands to wealthy ranchers; 5) funding every defense boondoggle that military contractors can dream up; 6) tax breaks for companies that offshore U.S. jobs; and 7) all the other outrageous giveaways to corporations that congressional republicans love so much.

          OK repubs, we're waiting for your proposal to cut corporate welfare. Let's hear it!

          <Crickets>

          • 7 votes
          #5.8 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:21 AM EDT

          at least 5or6 Tax Evadeing Americans Party members of congress recieve government welfare through farm subsides. including the queen michelle bachman. i wonder if she drives a cadillac?

          • 7 votes
          #5.9 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:30 AM EDT

          Mike---PLANNED PARENTHOOD gets 1 BILLION PER YEAR!!!!PER YEAR not a one time thing.Planned Parenthood has the right to exist but I shouldn't have to pay for it. If what goes on in there is none of my business then I DON"T WANT TO PAY FOR IT.

          • 1 vote
          #5.10 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:30 AM EDT

          In what way are you independent; you bear striking resemblence to most of the leftists I know. I think everyone should be happy with this; it's a good start. Seriously, it is clear even to most Democrats that the financial stability and thus the national security of our country is at risk and people are going to have to sacrifice their freebies. Paul Ryan has it right, we're on an unsustainable course and if something does not change then it is a matter of when not if. I keep hearing the tired argument about evil corporations and tax loopholes and blah blah blah. Corporations hire most Americans; they provide us with goods and services that make our lives easier. In some ways I agree; their needs to be a reduction in loopholes but that is addressed in Ryan's plan. Ryan manages to eliminate the loopholes and reduce the maximum tax rate to 25% and balance the budget by 2050; which seems like a long time but if we consider the length of many of the mortgages owned by individuals it isn't so bad. There are cuts, people will have to live with less handouts but if we all act like grownups and realize that in a free society we're ultimately responsible for ourselves then our country will better for it. For those who wish to demagogue the idea I simply ask you to think about it, use common sense and understand that we cannot continue to spend more than we take in; we just can't. A certain percentage of the population just doesn't care to employ that common sense and we cannot allow them to bring this country down, we have to be resolved. Please don't be the petulant child that throws a fit on the grocery store floor because mommy said no to buying candy at the checkout; it really is time for us to move beyond an elementary maturity level.

          • 3 votes
          #5.11 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:33 AM EDT

          If planned parenthood is just to provide health care for poor women then why in 2010 was their an abortion performed at pp every 90 seconds.

          • 1 vote
          #5.12 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:38 AM EDT

          Thats right , kill the babys, free the murderers

            #5.13 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:42 AM EDT

            Have you ever seen an abortion, I have

              #5.14 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:57 AM EDT

              This reminds me of 20 years ago when all of the same things were being said about the budget, etc. Ross Perot had a 30 minute spot on prime time network TV to explain what he wanted to do about it. A few years later we grew out of the deficit.

                #5.15 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 2:08 AM EDT

                Yeah "promote the general welfare". Leftists love that phrase almost as much as their perversion of the Commerce Clause. Because in your mushy little minds it basically justifies the government to spend money on anything you want. Problem is it doesn't promote the "general" welfare. It promotes the specific wefare of people that see human life as a problem. Don't pretend that your party's love of PP is about anything other than the continued funding of abortion on demand paid for with taxpayer dollars. I know you want people to believe it but nobody does.

                  #5.16 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 2:28 AM EDT

                  There is no federal funding for abortions. That is illegal. The funding for PP is for the other 97% of services they provide. So women can get pap smears, cancer screening and birth control. You know, things that help PREVENT abortions.

                  • 1 vote
                  #5.17 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 9:16 AM EDT

                  I would like to know just what are the free hand outs? And why is every body in big discussion about welfare i think most people has paid in their taxs over the years that when a elderly person or a small child or any one needs health care with no questions ask they should get the finest medical attention that exsist...Hell no one knows what the hell is in the budget cut yet?????

                    #5.18 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 11:18 AM EDT
                    Reply

                    Till next time. Stay tuned.

                      Reply#6 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 11:39 PM EDT

                      Say what you want about Harry Reid, he is my kind of man.

                      • 12 votes
                      Reply#7 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 11:39 PM EDT

                      What, an insane fool, who do you hang with?

                      • 2 votes
                      #7.1 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:44 AM EDT

                      You mean a corrupt, lying little weasel kind of man?

                      • 1 vote
                      #7.2 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 3:07 AM EDT
                      Reply

                      This is peanuts anyway.

                      The real story is whether the federal government can bring entitlements and defense under control... that's what going to make us or break us.

                      • 3 votes
                      Reply#8 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 11:42 PM EDT

                      In the 90s the size of the military was 2.45mil, its now 1.25 mil. Its time for you to get a clue.

                      • 1 vote
                      #8.1 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:45 AM EDT

                      OK 216 seven, plus how many contractors that are performing duties that military people used to? Privatize the military too, it's a great way to move money into the pockets of the few, the proud, the ultra-wealthy. (sarc)

                      • 3 votes
                      #8.2 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 2:09 AM EDT

                      You're kidding yourself if you don't thin inefficiencies exist. Not to mention we keep getting involved in unfunded conflicts.

                      Our tax rate should reflect our involvement in Iraq. That might affect how hawkish we are.

                        #8.3 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:36 PM EDT
                        Reply

                        This is another win for the American Taxpayer we are on a roll at every level of Government...An Historic Cut in Federal Spending. Thank you Speaker Boehner and Majority Leader Reid...you can do it you have proven you can make tough decisions. Good Job.

                        • 2 votes
                        Reply#9 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 11:45 PM EDT

                        Right on.

                          #9.1 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:46 AM EDT
                          Reply

                          At the photo finish, the results of the 2011 Spending Derby are:

                          Democraps- .5 points

                          Repbulicscums- .4 points

                          Tea Baggers- 0 points

                          Let freedom ring, Baby!!!

                          • 8 votes
                          Reply#10 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 11:48 PM EDT

                          Thanks for the humor, Seal.

                            #10.1 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 11:57 PM EDT

                            You, you need a clue

                              #10.2 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:47 AM EDT

                              Lol! Sure Chief! Because we all know that without the Tea Party animus the Republicans would have taken the House from Speaker Botox and cutting spending would be the order of the day. The fact that we are CUTTING instead of GROWING government is a validation of the Tea Party. Thanks for the humor!

                                #10.3 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 2:34 AM EDT

                                Hey, Seal, what these pups do not recognize through their Tea Party speak, is that it isn't just the GOP that will be cutting in due course as our economy recovers. The Democrats know that, too, but are trying to be more careful with the economy. For examples: The Tea Party speaks assert that the Democrats should have completed this year's budget last year. What they are forgetting is that Senator Kennedy died before they could finish it, and with Kennedy gone, the Democrats lost the majority. Thereafter, the GOP blocked efforts to complete it. The Tea Party speaks also assert that the President gave tax breaks to the wealthy. What they are overlooking is that the President was faced by the GOP with the tax breaks for the wealthy if he wanted to extend unemployment benefits for so many Americans out there. The President chose for the extended unemployment benefits out of integrity. The Tea Party speaks also asserted budget cuts by throwing in the amendment riders telling the President to agree to their cuts if he wanted the riders left out. Reid held his ground for some very important riders, all of which were thrown out. That is what made the GOP freshmen furious. Henceforth, I will refer to the GOP freshmen as the "freshies".

                                • 4 votes
                                #10.4 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 5:06 AM EDT

                                Hey Chili Banger - I suppose the Democrat's definition of careful cuts include the $3.7 trillion dollar budget and $1.65 Trillion dollar deficit just in one year. And additional "investments" payed for with borrowed money. Both the budgtet and the deficit are historical records. Surely even you know enough about civics to know that the late Senator had absolutely nothing to do with the lack of a budget. The lack of a budget is the reason we are in this mess in the first place. (And the real reason is Pelosi wanted to avoid another political ugly just before the November elections.)

                                And one other thing, perhaps you forgot the one most important rider that stayed in. The forced Senate vote on funding of HCR. Now the 23 Democratic Senators facing reelection in 2012 will have to actually take a position and face their constituents. Mr. Reid can no longer stonewall the latest new entitlement program that is the newest element of the deficit spending spree.

                                  #10.5 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 11:41 AM EDT
                                  Reply

                                  This isn't even an "Agree...to disagree" situation. They're in trouble for dragging their arses and thrown into the public, glaring spot light. They can't even agree to what's being cut and how much. Neither side can agree on a single thing, but ....they shook hands, they have an "agreement" --- on what??? To do what??? If it's passing or even presenting a budget (that's not even close to being completed) --- then it's a lie. It's all for posterity. Shame on each and everyone of them. Those for grandstanding, others for pointing fingers at each other... and worse... NOT DOING THEIR JOBS! It's half way through the Fiscal (financial) year and this is it?? A handshake and "we have an agreement"?? Bogus. Completely and utterly bogus. Next!

                                    Reply#11 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 11:48 PM EDT

                                    Until reality replaces ideology, this is what its going to look like Im afraid.

                                    The Repubs made promises to the Teaparty that they could never keep.

                                    Rhetoric cant govern!

                                    • 8 votes
                                    #11.1 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 11:55 PM EDT

                                    Look, we all know that cuts are coming, but the timing is exactly what concerns me the most. I mean, we are talking next of the same for the 2012 budget? What makes anyone confident that immediate 2012 budget cuts, beginning this calendar year will not hurt our fragile economy? I hope Senator Boehner can train those freshmen in the meantime.

                                    • 6 votes
                                    #11.2 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 11:55 PM EDT

                                    It took the Reps to come with a budget, the dems havent had one in 2 years

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #11.3 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:25 AM EDT

                                    In the end, they agree that the people protecting your freedoms need to be paid, the real fight will be in October.

                                      #11.4 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:59 AM EDT

                                      Sweet Jesus Elusive it is GOVERNMENT spending that is holding our economy back! Where do you think government gets the money it needs to function other that that which it prints? The PRIVATE sector. Who in the private sector is going to want to start a business when the massive government spending makes them wonder what kind of new tax hikes and fees are coming? Especially in light of the nightmare of ObamaCare they now have to deal with? And so you know it is Representative Boehner not Senator. If you can't get that basic fact right I wonder how much you actually know about jack.

                                        #11.5 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 2:50 AM EDT

                                        Christ, Life, do you think we would be in this difficult time if Reaganomics had not tripled the national debt followed by Bush Jr. doubling the national debt for their endeavors? Add to that their stupendous notion that the national debt did not have to be repaid. How about how much of our annual budgets are required to pay the interest, alone, on that accumulated national debt? All the while we have been drawn down by war costs. All the while we have the aftermath of the financials' fraud which has torn this country apart. Can you imagine where we would be without that drain on our resources. I cannot think of anyone out there who could have been doing any better to take our Nation through this difficult recovery to rebuild that out President and our Congress and even with the "freshies". So, hold on to your shorts with the Tea Party speaks. Think for yourself. Do you honestly think that Ryan Care is anything more than a change of the store front window display? Or that the Ryan tax plan is anything other than an attempt to keep the Tea Partiers in perpetual lower tax rates to keep them out of sacrifices along with everyone else? You know, America has already found some definition tonight about the Tea Party speaks. What do you think the awareness the public will become of the Tea Party and their "freshies" as we head into the 2012 budget. I am going to love it because we have proven tonight that we still have a democracy.

                                        • 4 votes
                                        #11.6 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 5:20 AM EDT

                                        The people of both the house and senate were elected to do this job, not the president, otherwise why would we have a house and senate and yet they almost couldn't do it because all they cared about was about getting their own way. Our country is made up of many different people with many different beliefs and our house and senate elects need to learn to work together for the best of our country, not what is best for their party. I don't blame the president at all. He had to step in because members of the house and senate where acting like spoiled, greedy brats who can't do the job they where elected to do.

                                        To the members of the house and senate: Quit playing the blame game and do the job you where elected to do. Quit running out to the media to make your self look good and placing blame on others, your all to blame. Start working together for the good of our country and not the good of your party.

                                        • 2 votes
                                        #11.7 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 10:11 AM EDT
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                                        Where can we find out just what was cut? Do I have this right 78.5 billion plus 2 If yes that is a lot more than I would have liked but we did avoid a shut down.

                                          Reply#12 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 11:50 PM EDT

                                          Get rid of ALL the corporate welfare and subsidies.

                                          • 4 votes
                                          Reply#13 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 11:57 PM EDT

                                          That is another tough one, Vi. Several large corporations are holding cash profits overseas and are not repatriating the cash until they have the most favorable tax rate to do so. Once they repatriate the cash, the profits are taxable. So, they are holding off. What can a government do that also needs the revenue and wants to see the cash after being taxed, used for dividends and capital gains paid to investors, used for research and development, used for other capital expenditures, and other ways which would help our economy? What can a government do? The corporations are betting that their cash stimulus will be worth a lower tax rate. What would you do with this situation if you were in the U.S. Congress?

                                          • 1 vote
                                          #13.1 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:11 AM EDT

                                          Reword your statement so that it reads "Get rid of All welfare, subsidies and foreign aid" and I will stand in total agreement with you. I particularly feel that any government aid to US companies that are sourcing materials outside our national borders or that are importing foreign made products should be heavily taxed.

                                          Perhaps then we will find a reason to once again become the leading manufacturer in the world and reduce or even eliminate unemployment and the need to have a welfare state.

                                          • 4 votes
                                          #13.2 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:24 AM EDT

                                          No politician in Washington will even think of doing that. They may talk a big talk, but when it comes down to it, corporations is where the real power in this country is because that is where ALL the money is. They will never do anything that hurts corporations because the corporate lobbyist groups will destroy their political career. Don't like it one bit, but that is the way modern politics work. Which is why our government is broke and can't be fixed until the people of this country wake up and realize that our government is no longer "for the people".

                                          • 5 votes
                                          #13.3 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:29 AM EDT

                                          Get rid of all subsidies

                                          • 1 vote
                                          #13.4 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:48 AM EDT

                                          Careful what you wish for, seven. Those oil subsidies keep americans from paying the true market price for gasoline, which is a heckuva lot higher than $4 a gallon. Imagine you're a politician who ends oil subsidies and gas prices skyrocket. How long do you imagine you'd remain in office?

                                            #13.5 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 2:06 AM EDT

                                            Here's what you do to get corporations to stay here in America. You make their tax and regulatory burden somewhat similar to that of foreign companies so they can compete. You will never get them to stop outsourcing labor when the standard of living is so much lower in places like China and India. What you can do is lower their corporate tax rate and structure it in such a way as to make it contingent on their labor practices. The U.S has the 2nd highest corporate tax rate in the world after Japan. The thing you absolutely do not do is make their tax burden worse and give them reason to move their entire operation somewhere else. And despite the fantasies of some there is nothing the government can do about companies that don't want to operate in an unfavorable economic environment. Unless you plan to go the Venezuela rout and attempt to nationalize their industries. Which is actually what some on this board would probably stand up and cheer for.

                                              #13.6 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 3:02 AM EDT

                                              Wise choice, Life, and, yes, it would be smart for any administration to give a one time lower rate to repatriate the cash the corporations want to bring home to re-invest. It may be short term political suicide, but the "freshies" are adept to political suicide.

                                              • 1 vote
                                              #13.7 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 5:26 AM EDT

                                              lifelibertyhappiness

                                              If corps were not so greedy, and you know they are, America would be fine. They seem to think they need to pay wages in America the same as in China and not pay any benefits,they get subsidies from the government, and then not be taxed fairly. Would the American people live in slums and walk to work and die for lack of health care. There must be a compromise in business too. I do feel some workers have taken advantage also asking for way too much and that may be why your upset, but for America`s sake let`s get down to an agreement.

                                              • 1 vote
                                              #13.8 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 9:13 AM EDT

                                              These ideas are good and get to heart of the problem. You want jobs? Encourage local investment. I know it is a stinky subject for some, and it makes for great populist sound bites, but one of the root causes of outsourcing, foreign investment and excess cash staying overseas where it was earned is the corporate tax policy. Reform the tax policy and watch as the entrepreneurs that create things including jobs do what they do best.

                                                #13.9 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 11:51 AM EDT
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                                                I don't know where these numbers came from, but other sources are saying the deal is for $38.5 billion in cuts through the end of the year, not $78.5 billion. Looks like perhaps the Dems held the line a little closer to where they wanted it to be than where the Repubs wanted it to be...

                                                • 1 vote
                                                Reply#14 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:00 AM EDT

                                                Yep, held the line for more spending/

                                                • 1 vote
                                                #14.1 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:26 AM EDT

                                                The 78.5 is from the 2011 budget President Obama submitted but never went into effect so that is a "phantom figure" the 38.5 is from the 2010 budget and that is the true amount. The Reps wanted 61 B they got 38.5 B.

                                                • 2 votes
                                                #14.2 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:58 AM EDT
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                                                Can we now all agree that cutting funding for the tsunami warning system would be a mistake?

                                                • 7 votes
                                                Reply#15 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:03 AM EDT

                                                Yes, can we also agree that planned parenthood is an abortion mill.

                                                • 1 vote
                                                #15.1 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:27 AM EDT

                                                Depends on where the tsunami comes ashore at. If it is D.C. I'll have to vote against an early warning system. Government needs to be cleansed.

                                                  #15.2 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:49 AM EDT

                                                  So let me get this straight--you're actually advocating the death of everyone in Washington, rather than warn them of an impending natural disaster? You are one sick puppy...

                                                  • 1 vote
                                                  #15.3 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 8:44 AM EDT

                                                  revpauld,

                                                  It seems pretty obvious that justme98110 was joking.

                                                    #15.4 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 10:56 AM EDT

                                                    Yes, can we also agree that planned parenthood is an abortion mill.

                                                    216, that's not entirely true. Abortions are provided, but that's not all planned parenthood does.

                                                    That's like saying all republicans are paranoid, whacked out, anti-science Jesus freaks being led around by the nose by their media heads when in reality only one-half to two-thirds of them are.

                                                    • 1 vote
                                                    #15.5 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 1:16 PM EDT

                                                    216 Seven - If the Republicans had prevailed 5 million poor and middle class women would not be able to get health care. But, more importantly a large percentage of those women would be deprived of free or affordable birth control. Many of those women would wind up with unwanted pregnancies and ultimately be forced to have abortions. So, what the Republicans would have done is promote perhaps millions of abortions instead of preventing them.

                                                    No, we can't agree.

                                                    The Republicans are such Frauds and Hypocrites!!!!

                                                    • 2 votes
                                                    #15.6 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 10:01 PM EDT

                                                    Monngie- There is free birth control. It's called keeping your legs crossed.

                                                      #15.7 - Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:01 PM EDT
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                                                      Who cares, they are all ass holes. It's all a game, it's all about your money and who gets it. Your all suckers.

                                                      • 1 vote
                                                      Reply#16 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:04 AM EDT

                                                      DonT, absolutely not as you perceive it. This Nation has all of the same creative, intuitive and aspiring people from the beginning of our founding fathers. We share the genetic engineering to survive and grow. There are few, if any, nations on this planet who hold what we hold, a diverse and talented many who share the same hopes. It is only that sometimes we forget who we are. That is when we should call our family or friends together to ask, "What can we do to make things better starting right now?" I just did.

                                                      • 4 votes
                                                      #16.1 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:17 AM EDT

                                                      All you have to be is a friend of Obama like GE and pay no taxes at all and also have 10 bill in profits.

                                                      • 1 vote
                                                      #16.2 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:29 AM EDT

                                                      216seven go back to fox, rush is on, hurry your gonna miss him!

                                                      • 3 votes
                                                      #16.3 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:38 AM EDT

                                                      Are you upset?

                                                      • 1 vote
                                                      #16.4 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:50 AM EDT

                                                      Did anyone watch Gretta, She was very unhappy that they had to consult their lobbyist on K street. Both parties, the lobbyist! We are being played.

                                                      No ifs, and or butts. Played!

                                                        #16.5 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 2:05 AM EDT

                                                        216,

                                                        GE hasn't been taxes since at least the late 80's, and probably earlier than that.

                                                        I just remember the late 80's for a fact because I was railing about it back then. You can't blame that one on Obama.

                                                          #16.6 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 1:19 PM EDT
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                                                          I did not think they would shut down.. The ace up the sleeve. Good job leaders. Yes they should get some support from the people. A shut down would cost more, and it could cause the people do get very angry. I think we needto start to cut cost in many areas of government. I am not sure if retired leaders are still payed 250,000. But they do not need to be paid after leaving the job. It is wrong. Many other people have no more retirement or healthcare and this was not of there doing. This is not over yet, has they said in this article. Thursday what will it be then.....

                                                          • 2 votes
                                                          Reply#17 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:04 AM EDT

                                                          Unfair

                                                          Your right, why isn`t everyone mad as hell about that instead of focusing on planned parenthood. The rich in government never have to sacrifice anything. Everything is pushed onto the middle class. What about all the people that have lost their homes but the big banks got baled out, and laugh in our faces with flaunting their huge bonus`s. It`s getting to the point they can say and do anything and they know nobody will do anything about it. When will enough be enough?

                                                          • 1 vote
                                                          #17.1 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 9:39 AM EDT
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                                                          the repubs will play this to their advantage and so will the dems. This fighting is not over, now comes next year's budget and raising the debt ceiling. But we see what the repubs are focused on social issues not jobs like they said and we should remember that come 2012 election.

                                                          • 2 votes
                                                          Reply#18 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:19 AM EDT

                                                          Are the dems willing to cut the government? I think not, wait till october.

                                                          • 1 vote
                                                          #18.1 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:30 AM EDT

                                                          i would like to thank the republicans for all the jobs they have created

                                                            #18.2 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:42 AM EDT

                                                            Id like to thank Obama for destroying our country.

                                                              #18.3 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:52 AM EDT

                                                              216 seven.....you mean Bush for handing Obama the destroyed country to try to fix.

                                                              • 5 votes
                                                              #18.4 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 1:13 AM EDT

                                                              I'm with you sis. Have you noticed the short, barbed posts, as reminiscent mimics of the sources they read or listen to? Yes, it is the very same dumb downer crap. They need to take my brief and effective short course for identifying and red flagging illogical argument out of their daily lives by turning the radio dial and changing the TV channel. Simple as that. My Young Adult Majority voters will be some of the most politically astute and discerning voters this nation has ever known, and their numbers will blow away the "freshies".

                                                              • 1 vote
                                                              #18.5 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 5:36 AM EDT
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                                                              So can someone please tell me how we got here in the first place? At the end of 1999 we had a half-billion dollar surplus. At the end of 2007 we had a $1300 Billion deficit. Ryun proposed a 2012 budget that is supposed to cut $6000 Billion over 10 years, but that won't balance the budget until 30 years later! I don't get it! We are not spending that much more than in 1999, what happened?

                                                              • 2 votes
                                                              Reply#19 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:20 AM EDT

                                                              zekeinwashington...bush

                                                              • 2 votes
                                                              #19.1 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:45 AM EDT

                                                              9/11 and 2 wars latter, I think its time to pull out of the mid east, use our own resources and look out for ourselves.

                                                              • 1 vote
                                                              #19.2 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:53 AM EDT

                                                              Economic recovery from all of the Bush Jr. era mismanagement and his war legacy of failure, and all of the financial fraud, but we will recover as the Democratic Caucus kicks in with a surcharge on incomes over $1 million to cut the edge and make sure that the Tea Partiers sacrifice with everyone else. The top 5% accumulated over $40 trillion since the 1980s is the clue. They didn't do that because their tax rates were too high. It is like, okay, you have had a hell of a run stimulus by not having an appreciated tax rate, so now, we are going to take our profit from that stimulus to pay down that national debt that Reaganomics sidestepped.

                                                              • 2 votes
                                                              #19.3 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 5:42 AM EDT
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                                                              This means we will have another barrage, of media experts, voicing their opinions and psycho babble, for the next week. Boehner and his head-nodding clones, will be in front, of every microphone, espousing how the GOP wanted to compromise but the Democrats would not say "Uncle." The Tea Party has had their fifteen minutes, it is time, they went back to brewing their distain, for their fellow Americans, out of the limelight. You know, the rest of us, who have worked, as hard as, any of them. The ones who have paid our taxes and are just as responsible. They are so righteous, as to believe intelligent adults, who happened to be Democrats, have to march in step with the Tea bag agenda. The Tea Party wants Democrats to accept, all of their ideas even if it interferes with our freedoms and rights. It has nothing to do with fiscal responsibility, it has to do with Tea Party religion. Tea Bag sycophants, are willing, to watch the United States, go down in flames, rather than compromise. Anyone who has an original idea and does not conform to their rigid agenda, are labelled anti-American. Shame on them, for attempting to take away the freedoms, of hard working Americans. Shame on the politicians, who represent the few, instead of the majority. Mostly, shame on the big spenders, who have duped these naive, Tea Bag people, into believing they could take, free thinking Americans behind the "wood shed " and punish us, for wanting a country free of tyranny. The saddest brew these Tea Party people will find they will have to drink is, they have been duped. There is a sucker born every minute. One might call them gullible, I call them the Tea Party.

                                                              • 7 votes
                                                              Reply#20 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:20 AM EDT

                                                              What world do you live in, are you on dope? The government is not the catch all save all, its up to you, save yourself. The Government is suppose to provide the atomosphere, its up to us to live our lives.

                                                              • 1 vote
                                                              #20.1 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:33 AM EDT

                                                              Full of S*!T, as are all who write this tripe! When your paying $6.00 a gallon for gas and food prices double or triple lets see how your support of the dems works-out, very-sweet!

                                                              • 1 vote
                                                              #20.2 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:35 AM EDT

                                                              I call them the "freshies" who will be seeing an Independent Voter backlash.

                                                              • 1 vote
                                                              #20.3 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 5:44 AM EDT

                                                              Take that back

                                                              Well said. Thank you

                                                              • 1 vote
                                                              #20.4 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 9:50 AM EDT

                                                              216 Seven & Jack

                                                              To those of you who disagree with our government I could repeat a phrase the Republicans are well noted; "America love it or leave it!" But since I feel everyone should experience freedom, I will not lower myself to your standards. As a person born and raised in poverty, I know what it is to be hungry. My parents never took a dime of government assistance and I worked, from the time I was nine or ten, babysitting and cleaning houses. My education suffered for lack of a better word, the disparity of the haves and have nots. I felt first hand my teachers disdain of me and my rag tag clothes. More than one teacher treated me like a scourge, because I did not have the pretty ribbons in my hair and the layer of petty coats. But along the way, I was blessed with teachers who saw the potential, in a little nobody like me. I became a better student and by the time I got through to college, I had learned one important thing. If every child has just one person to make them feel important, the child will try to live up to the adults expectations.

                                                              I retired last year at the age of 65, after over 40 years of nursing. I have a vast knowledge of life and death. My last nine years I spent as a home care hospice nurse. I went from wealthy mansions to some of the poorest neighborhoods in Toledo, in a matter of minutes. I treated doctors, lawyers, business CEOs and indigent people, as well. Everyone of the patients I provided care for, received the same loving, quality care. Death knows no boundaries. Everyone dies and that is what make us all equal. Pain and suffering are the same for the rich and poor. I know I made a difference because I cared and I showed my compassion. Do you want to know why? Because I grew up being pre-judged, by people who knew nothing about me. I know what it is like to be ostracized due to, not fitting in with the haves. My meager childhood made me learn to be compassionate, accepting and want to do better, for my fellow man. Being labelled a "Liberal" is an honor for me. Because, I am not afraid to give, I give of my heart, my soul and what money I can to help those in need. One day, when it is my turn to be a hospice patient, I want a person who will be compassionate and caring. I want some one like me, who will fight for what a patient needs, without regard for the consequences. Everyone deserves to die with dignity and respect. We owe it to each other, no matter if we are Republican, Democrat, Tea Party etc., to make sure we have a peaceful death. We also, owe it to each other, to make sure, everyone has a peaceful life. If that means paying taxes, so a person can have health care, so be it. Our America is NOT about you and me, it is about us. Try opening up your heart and your wallet. It is a very rewarding feeling, to care.

                                                              • 1 vote
                                                              #20.5 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:41 PM EDT
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                                                              I am disappointed in the Dems. Where's the fight? Where's the passion? The more right we go... the worse it's going to get. Every give away to the right has hampered our recovery. These cuts are the end of the recovery. To not hit entitlements and defense first is a slap in the face to the middle class. To give away revenue to the people that do not need it is feeding the failed trickledown economics theory of the past. Polls are clear on what and where these cuts need to come from. Yet, no action for the masses? No spine is the problem once again. And we wonder why the corporate owned Tea Party is as Charlie would say..."Winning". Grow a pair! Stand up for what is right and fair. Do not let ideaologies win over facts and truth. Anthony Weiner is the only Dem showing them up with passion! Fix this nonsense or you will all be out of a job very soon.

                                                              • 5 votes
                                                              Reply#21 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:21 AM EDT

                                                              You right, lets go more left. Joe, Adolf , and who ever you love, time for you to get a clue.

                                                                #21.1 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 1:04 AM EDT

                                                                RAHK

                                                                I agree wholeheartedly! What happened to the Democrats, who promised to take back the rights, of the middle class? The ones, who so eagerly courted our votes, now act like a bunch of milk duds! We have a Representative here in Ohio, her name is Marcie Kaptur. She has bucked the system from, voting against NAFTA and the war in Iraq. She has always represented US. We need more people like her, who are not afraid, to go up against, what is popular. We deserve a person who will vote for what is correct and fair for the American people. Marcie has consistently, advocated for her constituents. Then we have Anthony Wiener, who does not like to be teased about his name "Anthony." I see him a presidential material. He is not afraid to lead, no matter what the cost may be, to him politically. To me, that makes him even more powerful. Why is it, we vote for these so-called tigers and wind up with kittens? I am tired of 'photo-op politicians', who cannot provide the energy their election as state. We are being conned by big business, instead of big brother. What's the difference?

                                                                  #21.2 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 1:49 PM EDT
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                                                                   Boener voted against saving babys. We will challenge him next election.  I am so scarred for our country because Obama dont seem to be easily defeated that is just like the antichrist

                                                                    Reply#22 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:28 AM EDT

                                                                    You have no clue

                                                                      #22.1 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 1:04 AM EDT

                                                                      Wow!

                                                                      Seriously, wow.

                                                                      • 1 vote
                                                                      #22.2 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 2:10 AM EDT

                                                                      Oh, get a life of reality check. Faith-based politics is about as illogical as our founding fathers could have envisioned. They must be rolling over in their graves. Can you imagine the debate blowing faith-based delegates out of the Convention Hall? They would have said, "We can tolerate any faith, but not in politics." In other words, keep it unto yourself, your kind and in your homes and places of worship, but not in our national politics." Do you know why faith-based politics do not work? Because faith-based politics is based upon illogic, quirky and murky, Constitutionally. Faith-based inspired legislation is by definition, illogical, and unconstitutional. In other words, you will be tolerated as long as you do not bring that crap into our PTAs, local, state and federal governments.

                                                                      Federally and state funded faith-based grant budget cuts, now there is a healthy notion for our nation.

                                                                      • 2 votes
                                                                      #22.3 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 5:53 AM EDT

                                                                      If the Republicans had prevailed 5 million poor and middle class women would not be able to get health care. But, more importantly a large percentage of those women would be deprived of free or affordable birth control. Many of those women would wind up with unwanted pregnancies and ultimately be forced to have abortions. So, what the Republicans would have done is promote abortions instead of preventing them. The Republicans are such hypocrites!!!!

                                                                      • 2 votes
                                                                      #22.4 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 9:53 PM EDT

                                                                      Todd Pallard:

                                                                      Educate yourself. Not one red cent goes to abortion! (A red cent, is a penny.) Tell me Todd, every time you have sex, do you use protection? A condom is a form of birth control. So, that means you are preventing the birth of a child. What makes you, any different than the women, who go to planned parenthood, for birth control education? How many children do you want on welfare? I am sure that goes against your philosophy because supporting welfare recipients is, also anti-Republican. So you want every sexually active person, that includes men, too; to abstain from having sex. I am all for that but that goal is not realistic. If no one is using birth control and all these babies are being created, who is going to pay for their food and clothing? Their education and more importantly, who will be a "responsible adult", to parent these children?

                                                                      I am anti-abortion. So it seems to me, Todd, the only way to prevent unwanted pregnancies is birth control. Or, to give a baby a real chance at life, adopt them out, to loving, caring people, who can provide the quality of live every child deserves.

                                                                      Oh Todd,the "anti-Christ" loves people like you. Illiterate and too lazy to get the facts. You will believe anything a "pastor" tells you, rather than think for yourself. When is the last time you had an original idea? Keep following you piped piper and one day he will be offering you pink Koolaid.

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                                                                      #22.5 - Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:42 AM EDT
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                                                                      Enjoy the false-sense of something important has happened here, the worst is yet to come! The time to pay the piper is coming, I will enjoy seeing the "nanny-state" lovers pay the price.

                                                                      • 1 vote
                                                                      Reply#23 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:28 AM EDT

                                                                      I agree, the only issue is they are taking us down with them.

                                                                      • 1 vote
                                                                      #23.1 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:34 AM EDT

                                                                      Yes, nothing like screwing yourself and your neighbor with all of those who lack-intelligence, a typical self-serving attitude of about 20% of the population.

                                                                        #23.2 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:47 AM EDT

                                                                        Thats what our country is based on, individual rights, are you part of the red guard, get a clue.

                                                                          #23.3 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 1:06 AM EDT

                                                                          God I hate MSNBC

                                                                            #23.4 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 1:10 AM EDT

                                                                            Then why are you here? Go over to Fox!

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                                                                            #23.5 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 9:32 AM EDT

                                                                            Jack

                                                                            So tell us what is coming, this is the 2nd time somebody made a prediction. Is it a secret?

                                                                            • 1 vote
                                                                            #23.6 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 9:57 AM EDT

                                                                            Jack3260345, by nanny state are you referring to the way we spoil corporate America and the upper 2% like little children with lavish tax breaks? You simply will relish it when the corporations own your soul and you have to shop at the company store just like they did 100 years ago. Those that forget history will be condemned to repeat it and we are headed in that direction. You'll be happy when the KOOK brothers (no this isn't a misspelling). Are your masters. OH, they don't take coupons at the Company Store, just your blood, sweat, and tears.

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                                                                            #23.7 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 9:40 PM EDT
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                                                                            I am wondering in this budget cut, is the house and senate going to take a cut (ex: bonuses, payraises) are they going to pay for their own transportation (car rentals, gas, meals, etc). If that is in the package, great, if not (and I bet it is not) that is sad, as they are taking away programs (Parenthood) that is needed....

                                                                            What we need is the Democrats re-elected (Look what happened in Wisconsin)....they are taking away everything.

                                                                            • 3 votes
                                                                            Reply#24 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:29 AM EDT

                                                                            VA KATHY Why should I pay for Planned Parenthood? 1 bil. PER YEAR. I don't care if Planned Parenthood exists but I shouldn't have to pay for it.

                                                                            Just so you know, Wis. has been run by Dems for quite some time and they have run almost ALL INDUSTRY out of the state, Most of their jobs are in Texas, Alabama etc.. Just so you know I'am a Union Dem/lib from Chicago but I can see when we are messing up. Can you? Probably not

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                                                                            #24.1 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:36 AM EDT

                                                                            Why do you think planned parenthood gets $1billion per year? Where did you get that number?

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                                                                            #24.2 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 2:08 AM EDT

                                                                            Va, Reid blew out all of the "freshies" riders, including, of course Planned Parenthood. Now, we should come to the aid of Wisconsins' disenfranchised voters who have been subjected to questionable governance, which Senator Boehner has warned of, "freshie" overreach.

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                                                                            #24.3 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 5:59 AM EDT

                                                                            VaKathy

                                                                            They never give anything up, that is why they are in that job. They are greedy, corrupt S.O.B.s and they will stick it right under your nose, and grin.

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                                                                            #24.4 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 10:03 AM EDT
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                                                                            I'm disappointed about a bunch of this crap. This still is not a freakin budget. Another reset basically right. Thursday we shall dance again. No writers in this bitch though. EPA, good,Planned Parenthood good. It has been for show to prove to the tea pots they mean this @!$%#?? 78 Billion dollars & some from defense at that? Win! Win What I ask? This is a freakin country supposed to be for the people. Must not mean me see I don't chill with Fools that act like children!

                                                                              Reply#25 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:35 AM EDT

                                                                              OVERT39-----Most of what you just posted is incomprehensible. Writer or riders? they mean thisnigger?? ? What the hell is your point? This a freakin country supposed to be for the people.?? What? I don't even no for sure whos side you are on. No offense I'm not trying to be a jerk but reallly?

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                                                                              #25.1 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 12:52 AM EDT

                                                                              It is overtly, democracy in action, a little swing this way, and a little swing back this way, and in the end of the day, the country is represented by a few for all of us as a whole. Honestly, our founding fathers knew something. If you do not believe it, find any other nation on this planet which you would find better, and move there. But you might not want to give up your U.S. citizenship, and that goes for the faith-based politics, retards, also. Can you imagine an Evangelistic Faith-Based Politics proponent living in North Africa or the Middle East? Hell, they wouldn't even let them post online.

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                                                                              #25.2 - Sat Apr 9, 2011 6:08 AM EDT
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