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Subscribe to RSSReports are beginning to indicate that negotiators have the basic outlines of a compromise on a long-term funding bill before them.
*** UPDATE 10:50 pm ET: *** A Reid spokesman tweets: "We have an agreement." Details to come...
According to National Journal, a potential deal would include up to $39 billion in spending cuts for the rest of the fiscal year, $514 billion in spending for the Pentagon, and no “riders” involving funding for Planned Parenthood or the Environmental Protection Agency.
But even if there’s a deal on a long-term spending bill tonight, writing legislation to fund the federal government for six months is a complex process – one that’s unlikely to be finalized in the three-and-a-half-or-so hours before the government runs out of authorized funding at midnight tonight.
So how could a shutdown be avoided?
It appears increasingly likely that the House and Senate could pass a three-day or one-week bridge measure that could keep the lights on until the paperwork and voting for a full spending resolution is completed.
Negotiators have made clear that a stopgap bill is contingent on a long-term agreement.
Boehner said late Friday night that he could support a short-term stopgap measure “only if there’s a deal” on a bill to fund the government for the rest of the fiscal year.
That’s similar – though a step further - than what the White House said yesterday when it said it would veto a one-week continuing resolution with deep cuts and an abortion-related rider.
“If negotiations are making significant progress, the Administration would support a short-term, clean Continuing Resolution to allow for enactment of a final bill,” the White House said in a statement. President Obama had previously indicated that he would not support any short-term measure.
How’s Speaker Boehner feeling about the possibility of a deal tonight?
“You know me - I was born with a glass half full,” he told CNN.
NBC's Luke Russert contributed to this report.
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Woo hoo! It's about time. Don't want our servicemen and women to worry about their families stateside. Don't want Women's Health to be a bargaining pawn. Get rid of all the social riders and let's get'er done!
I Need a drink! Midnight Margaritas?
If you're buying. ;-)
I'm in California. Where are you Anna Molly?
Wisconsin. I'll just have to dream about it.
For the benefit of our servicemen and women, Congress needs to sacrifice their salaries to pay for the people who are risking their lives for them.
How can they form their mouths to say to all federal employees won't get paid...again. We should tell them we have no further use for them and take their checks, pensions, etc. just like they are doing to the people.
The worst part of this is...it was a Republican (BUSH) who got us into this mess and more Republicans who are keeping the mess going (look at Ohio's governor)!
To quote Yogi Berra this sounds like "It's déjà vu all over again".
Another of Yogi's best comments was "You can observe a lot just by watching."
The first round is on me GF's!
Bartender will you get my friends a drink?
After all it must be midnight somewhere. Feisty are you in Chicago? Anna Molly is in Wisconsin. I'm in California. You ladies will be drinking midnight margaritas way before me.
My favorite is Mango margaritas at Chevy's on the Sacramento River. They make the best. Food . . . not so much but Mango Margaritas are pure heaven!
I can't believe I beat Feisty to a comment.
Either I'm getting faster or she's getting slower. In any event, I'll drink to Prosser's victory in Wisconsin, but I'm sure she won't.
This is why my husband and myself only depend on ourself and no one else. We do not get any help from the government and we are a working family that pays our taxes. We have a child and never once have we had help, it's hard but it can be done. It is done by many American families and I have all the respect for people that do it on there own. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!!!
AnaBanana - I prefer either an excellent Cosmo or a Lemon Drop Martini!
CHEERS to you my GF!
PS: Yes, I'm just outside of Chi-Town!
As a current federal employee, I see what the politicians are doing as a complete disgrace! The amount of "extra" work preparing for a possible shutdown has left many of us unable to focus on our current mission. This involves much wasted effort and time. Come on folks (Washington) - cooperate and give us a budget to assist the American public and not one to continually support ones party line. I am sick of both sides and the status quo.
Roy, I never really thought the Dem would WIN, but you have to admit she really had a lot more votes than your side predicted..... While I don't believe in the "fraud" posts regarding the woman who made the mistake, SHE needs to be recalled. We had a woman with a similar problem. We ran her out of office. Will have to see where the recall goes. I would lay money however, the election has made them think a little.. NOT that they will act any different... lol Kings never make mistakes... :-)
I told you these idiots would come to some deal before the end of the day, and here it comes Johnny its all about drama folks.
What a sorry bunch of fools on the hill, should of named these guys after the Beatles song The Fool On the Hill or in this case Fools.
Planed Parent hood is not good for america. It encourages women to get on welfare and have tons of kids.
Disgrace is an understatement. I am a current full-time Servicemember and I am only getting half of my pay on the 15th. They thought it would be a good idea to stop our pay already "pending the shutdown". Our pay wont be re-instated until this is passed. What a way to support those of us in the Military.
I would not tip that glass just yet- we've heard this song before, and there was no deal.
I'm guessing that the " defunding Planned Parenthood holding up the deal" talking point did not work out- not when balanced against withholding service families paychecks. That was another loser, by the way- too easy to check that the republicans passed a bill that would have fully funded the military for the rest of the year- but Reid refused to bring it to the floor.
This whole thing is not going the way democrats anticipated- they looked backward to 1995, and completely ignored the essential fact that Obama ain't no Bill Clinton. Not by a long shot.
Go Amish!!!
Writer99
"For the benefit of our servicemen and women, Congress needs to sacrifice their salaries to pay for the people who are risking their lives for them."
Their salaries don't amount to squat. Most are already millionaires, especiall among dems.
How about those sucking up the welfare pay their fair share for a change? Most are baby makers who never worked a day in their lives, contribute nothing, and are a waste of taxpayer $.
Generations on welfare in the projects, pumping out gang bangers for a free ride on the rest of us.
57% of immigrants legal or not are one welfare. They should never have received a dime. America welcomes those who want to come here, but they need to pay their own way. I don't care how many kids they have. I raised mine with my $, not someone elses. Bleeding hearts will destroy America.
And I support service men and women. I am a vet. They are the one's defending our country, not the welfare rabble that is sucking it dry. The left caters to the suckers. That needs to stop. Get them of of their collective produce nothing azzes and get a clue. There is no need for perpetual welfare for those who just don't want to work. At least make them do something for what the rest of us have to pay for.
There were 63 other riders in there too joe, including several to kill HCR. I'd have to guess they came out too.
And which bill to fund the military are you referring too?
The one that had the PP rider or the clean one that the Goehmer introduced so the old guard Republicans wouldn't get hung for stopping troop pay by the Tea Party?
I think the Republicans are the ones who came around here.
Dosh, I refer to the one week continuing resolution, passed by the House last week, which would have Fu deed the government for a week, but Fu deed the military though out the rest of the fiscal year.
Reid refused to bring it up in the senate.
Bad idea. Really, really, really bad idea.
And you people believe this? Sad, real sad.
Not really joe, the Republicans folded quickly on that one anyways and apparently decided that it was in their best interest to play ball.
Like I said, Goehmer got scared and offered up a clean bill with no riders to keep just the pentagon funded. He and the established Republicans weren't going to let the Tea Party take them down on that one.
So it cost Reid what, 2B more and the riders disappeared?
You said who won?
AnaBanana,
Sacramento river as in Redding or Sacramento? Either way I'm surprised you aren't going for the cabernet. My choice and don't let my name fool you. So. Oregon here. Ever try the Sierra Nevada in Chico? The best! Yeah I know I'm off topic but it is sat night.
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The dems have folded since 2006. Not a welfare scam they didn't approve. Trying to build their base of those who don't work.
nojo,
That was another loser, by the way- too easy to check that the republicans passed a bill that would have fully funded the military for the rest of the year- but Reid refused to bring it to the floor.
That bill to fund the military, would stop shutdown for a week. Plus there were other riders. What would be the point. Should we keep stalling forever doing weekly funding. Republican mantra: When all else fails, hop on the back of the military.
"Give them another reason why Obama's GOT to go.
NO. 6.
He's an ageist, sexist, racist. See, for instance, the video mailed in 2010 to Democratic activists: "It will be up to each of you to make sure that the young people, African Americans, Latinos, and women, who powered our victory in 2008, stand together once again." What? No gratitude to the 41 percent of white male voters who put him in the White House?"
I never said anyone won, dose. What I said was- don't tip the glass too soon. We've heard this song before.
I will believe there is a deal when both sides announce it- not just one. As to who "wins", well, I will withhold judgment on that, too.
If we do not cut spending by a truly significant amount, (not ephemeral cuts in proposed spending), I do not know who "wins", but I'd do know who loses-
We do.
Benjamin Carey
"Planed Parent hood is not good for america. It encourages women to get on welfare and have tons of kids."
You are an idiot my friend!
John Brown.
The Sacramento River starts up in Shasta goes through Redding meandering in a southernly route through our valley to Sacramento where the American River runs into it at Discovery Park. It continues to its end in the Delta. And John . . . it is Friday night.
But hey! It's midnight somewhere so have another. What is Sierra Nevada in Chico? Are you talking about a wine or the beer or a restaurant or the real Sierra Nevada mountains all around me? I don't care for the Sierra Nevada beer but I am a red wine fanatic. Not just a Cab but a Pinot Noir, Merlot, Rose, Sangria and on and on.
Meh, semantics.
Would you prefer the term capitulated?
The gist of your post was that the Dems folded under pressure due to the troop pay issue.
I disagree and cite evidence that the Republicans felt more pressure from that and were the ones to cave.
Though I honestly think there were very few on eiher side who really wanted to go the distance in hopes the troops would damage the other team. i do believe even our politicians have limits.
Sorry if I was unclear. I understood from reports today that Durbin, as number 2, had introduced a continuing resolution that would have allowed the troops to get paid, while Reid was busy negotiating. It almost mirrored the resolution the republican House passed. Read it on Politico, in fact, sometime early this afternoon. It was to that I referred when I said that the democrats found that to be a blunt sword.
I maintain that I will believe there is a deal when there is a deal- not before. We have been told for the last two weeks that a deal was nearly done- motley by the Democrats, who then howled that the republicans had "changed the goal posts".
If we do not get our fiscal house in order, we are the losers- all of us.
Good night. Thanks for a good discussion. Again, my apologies for being unclear. Jet lag is miserable.
ahh, anabanana,...
I KNEW I liked you for a reason. I do love me some red wine. good for the heart, too! Especially with some DARK chocolate!
Give 'em hell, it's been a long week and we ALL deserve a drink. I will have some Italian grape, if it's all the same to you.
Benjamin, that is just a dumbass statement you made (ie" planned parenthood makes woman collect welfare and have a ton of kids".
You guys are constantly saying all PP does is perform abortions. IF that is true (which it is not), how does one have tons of kids if at the same time one is having abortions?????
Real brain material there Ben.... The Reps deserve you....
They have no thought process. If it's negative, they will say it.
Guess Harry Reid didn't blink.
I heard it was $38 Billion in cuts, but now it's $39 Billion. Sounds like a tradeoff to me.
Seriously, what $1B with a National debt our size? Stop all the wars and foreign aid and see what the budget will look like.
sorry sandtrich, you could eliminate the defense budget completely and eliminate all foreign aid (about 1% of the budget) and you still would only be halfway to balancing the budget.
danwill--$686B of new defense contracts? Eliminate 700 of the 737 bases on foreign soil. I call BS.
Paul Ryans budget addresses REAL facts and budget cuts and not the lies being spewed by the Media Maggots! Citizens against Government Waste is non-partisan and this pdf is very informing.
Also, Michele Bachman did offer to have her pay cut if their inability to get a budget resolved caused anyone else to lose pay...I think that is really decent...
http://www.cagw.org/reports/critical-waste-issues/critical-waste-book-finallr.pdf
Airangel, might want to recheck the facts in that budget. Most of the numbers he used came from the Heritage Foundation, and they knew they had skewered the numbers so bad that they took them down off of their site. In fact, the CBO said it would actually add to the deficit, rather than save any money. Just FYI.
So if and only if a shut down is avoided for a little while more...
...then what?
Well I know the CAGW wrote this wasteful spending report for this very budget proposal as a guideline to help BOTH parties and Paul Ryan had most of the budget written last year when the dems tried to pass Obamacare prior to Heritage advise. He took some but not all which is why they criticized him. Did yo even bother to read the report? That's the problem with most posters on here. They only want to bash rather than research anything.
It's good...try reading it...and it's not about Dem or Repub...it's non-partisan. This is not a Heritage report.
http://www.cagw.org/reports/critical-waste-issues/critical-waste-book-finallr.pdf
“Ya know everyone is arguing on both sides about this issue, and people need to just stop supporting this entirely....
We need to start acting like "the people" of this nation... of this Earth and stand up to get rid of all of the politics-it has not gotten us anywhere in over 100 years. The government needs to work for the people not us enslaved to work for it. If we keep voting and keep supporting this entire system we are condemning ourselves....everyone is suffering from this except the politicians and corporations ...lets stand up and let them know we inhabit this earth FREELY not their "free" that has taken our rights and dignity as humans. NO LAW, POLICY, OR POLITICIAN CAN HELP US. Also, even if we cut everything EVERYTHING...we will never ever be able to pay back this debt simply because money is created out of debt and has NO VALUE. Please for our sake understand this and lets not let any politician win....the system will eventually collapse entirely and we can take control as the people....or we can let it get worse and worse...For the soldiers sake, in contract they are guaranteed payment...the govt doing this voids their end of the contract so why should the soldiers who are now prop. of gov't keep dying and suffering to protect these people and their desire for oil and profit.”
A few years ago Robert Redford, an ultra liberal was the guest at an award in his honor. He reported that after the doors closed and all the politicians were out of public view, they acted like best of friends. Imagine that Democrats and Republicans, Liberals and Conservatives, laughing and joking together. Kinda makes me wonder. How about you?
do you care?
There all sleeping in the same bed too and having million dollar coke parties on the side.
Some one must of bought a huge bed and laced it with congress cocaine.
So thats how you wanna play it? Harry Reid is a gutless punk.
How dare you call him a punk? ;-)
Your comment is childish, biased, and unfounded.
Mine? Yes, of course, it is. ;-)
Anna Molly, my comment was a response to theelviscerator post.
Harry Reid a gutless punk? You're being way too easy on him. He is the poster child for what's wrong in D.C. These morons (Dems, liberals, socialists, take your pick they're all the same) don't want to cut anything because everything is just too important to cut. So they use our military as pawns by saying they won't get paid. They won't agree to the House proposal to fund the military through the end of the fiscal year. These clowns don't give a damn about anything except their agenda. To repeat the recently oft quoted phrase "We don't have a revenue problem we have a spending problem". If the government "shuts down" for a while so what. Let the government employees, who have not suffered at all like folks in the private sector, see what it's like to have to live with Obama's destructive decisions. Trillion dollar deficits! Get serious! No country can survive what these unamerican socialists are doing! Just tax the rich. These idiots act like their ideas are new and have never been tried. Well they have and it's been proven over and over that they do not work! If everyone that is currently in the 35% tax bracket were taxed at 100% it wouldn't even come close to Barry's deficit numbers. These dems are ruining this country, it's that simple. They have got to go if this country is to survive.
Woodbutcher? I don't normally call people names on here, but you are a dumbass of the major kind. First of all, BONER was the one using the troops as pawns as part of the stop-gap attempt to lure Obama into doing something he didn' want to do. Please show PROOF that Obama used the troops. The Dems gave up a lot in the cuts, but the Reps not only gave up NOTHING on their side, they packed the deal with a crap load of social riders to make sure their agenda is the winner.
Secondly, a shut-down (which your side so cavalierly says "shut 'em down") affects millions of Americans NOT on the gov payroll. You ever think about that bonehead? All those people out of work stop spending at all the republican companies... and ouch, we know reps get ill if the money aint rolling in... Then you have Americans who can't get a passport or tax refund, etc. More lack of private spending. Instead of thinking up all those VERY clever names for Dems, why don't you use your small brain to really know the facts and stop spewing the Faux News or whatever you listen too.
Lastly, these cuts do nothing to address the BIG problem of ss and medicare. I don't believe we should overtax the wealthy, but I DO think the ss tax should be applied to every dollar of income. I pay the same amount of ss tax and warren buffet. Anyone see a problem with that????
Anna Molly-----------No more drinks or drugs tonight!
Tell me--who is the one with the "guts"? I don't see any cuts proposed on that whale of a DOD budget, proposal of eliminating any of the 737 bases on foreign soil, foreign aid. Why not cancel the $686B "new" contracts with Defense Contractors?
wifes fans-----------------------You can save SS by returning the 40 million Clinton moved to the general fund and get all the loser welfare people sucking SS dry.
Really?! Oh, darn.
This is the reason why education dollars should not be cut. Some people in this discussion return to childish rhetoric to get their points across. The republicans claimed they wanted to produce jobs. That was their mantra for being elected to Washington DC and to the congress. Their actions this week will cost jobs. Their actions last year blocked all attempts to work with the President and the democrats. The republicans are going on television and saying that this is about abortion and defunding healthcare in addition to a host of idiotic ideals. Now they want to find ways to make sure the poor, minorites as well as seniors have a more difficult time voting. What about doing what they were elected to do and create jobs. Instead they are cutting jobs, pushing a social agenda, creating more tension amongst the masses and personally making me sick!
 Shameful
On the precipice of irresponsibility. Shameful these children in Washington hold the purse strings.
sure, cut programs that mean something, DON'T cut anything from the top. I still think you should cut from senators and congress. Do they need free trips all the time that we the people pay for?
Would save a lot if they start paying their own way, they make enough money for sitting on their butts telling us what we need to pay so they can live on easy street and we struggle to survive!
thats the republican way report bull@!$%# out right lies and than advertise their t shirts for sale with their names on it
I agree . If they would all take a pay cut, and pay their own way we would not have a budget problem. If they were forced to live on Social Security when they were retired that would be cleared up and workable. If they had to depend on public healthcare as we do you can bet that would be a whole different program than what we are facing. And if they were accountable for their acctions and had to have a quarterly review to see if they were doing what the people wanted before they got a pay raise they might care about the people thay are supposed to be representing.
Decerned----------- Obama sets the example with AF1 going to the mid east respecting Sharia law sending wifey in a MD80 and dog in a Lear Jet
The ENTIRE system should be done away with and started over from scratch. What we have now is mindless sheep bleating and bickering among each other blaming the other "party" for all their woes. It is so childish and I am so sick of hearing it. People seem to forget that God gave them a mind when they were born and they should be able to use said mind to decide without blindly following a certain "party" who is best qualified to run this Country. All I ever see here is mindless banter and bickering...the "blame game" with absolutely ZERO suggestions to actually fix things...so pathetic...
I don't see zero suggestions. The suggestions from the Democrats is take out the women health and environmental riders that have no place in a budget bill. Sounds reasonable to me.
I dont need to argue, all the posts here and the ones to come make my argument.
Yep, "Bush did it"...And then we will have "Obama did it"...And then...
Lets get ride of all these people (Dems & Reps) and let Trump really do it!
As a veteran of three tours in Viet Nam, it really upset me to hear on the news tonight that some of our military guys fought the hardest battle last night and lost six of their comrades. But comes payday they probably will not get a pay check because of the Government shutdown. Myself I really think our Congressmen and our Senators should really be ashamed of themselves for doing this to our servicemen. I bet every damn one of them including our President will get their paychecks. Also they are looking at cutting benefits to our older citizens, like Medicare and Social Security. They should look at cutting some of their extravegent spending, like their limo services and their $1,000.00 a plate dinners. Seems like all the Republican's want to do is cut benefits to the working class people, of course this doesn't bother them because they keep getting richer off of the taxpayer. Actually I wonder how many Congressmen and Senators voted themselves a pay raise in the last two years, because our senior citizens have not had a cost of living raise for the past two years. These last two years have seen the cost of living raise more than it has in the last ten years prior.
AS TO SOLVING THE BUDGET PROBLEM,...
When it comes to our voted in politicians,...
I do believe that there are many "cuts" that "they" are not thinking of or daring to talk about, such as;
get rid of their "pages and runners", make them WORK for their dollar, WE DO!
make them stay in the middle class hotels, motels, etc, and pay their own bill, WE DO!
make them pay for their own auto rental, dare I say, WE DO!
let their voters vote if they get a pay raise, who else chooses their own pay, THEY ARE NOT SELF-EMPLOYED, WE EMPLOY THEM!
if one was to look into exactly where money is spent from our taxes, they could do more than sit on television in senate and congress meetings reading newspapers, sleep, (yes sleep on national television while getting payed to cast the vote of their voters majority opinions), tell jokes, ( i have seen them group and talk then laugh), with more time and searchings one can grow a long list of CUTS!
if they want to raise fuel prices, and mind you i am against it, raise it properly, lets say $.50 to $1.00 per gallon increase and every penny goes to the governments budget, at least every one would pay in the amount that they use it, rich, poor, business, employed, almost everyone.
lets see who can think of real, honest and good ways to help our leaders since they seem to be at a loss as how to do their jobs that they were voted and paid to do!
how many of us can not do our jobs and get paid???!
Dave Hose--You show up on the Vine today and "claim" to have served 3 turns in country. I never met a 3 timer--truth is, I doubt you. My son is a USN officer with 14 years in. He respects his CIC. This is all smoke and mirrors with shills abound on this site. Tell us more of your service. BTW--yes, I served, USN USS Marias AO57 and Fleet Air Jax.
You so called Republicans/Conservatives make me want to puke! You lack the fortitude or spine to stand your ground. There is going to be a time in the not too distant future where there is going to be a generation who will live no better then their pioneering grandparents.
I`m confused Jerry G
What else do you think the democrats should give up You did not get it all so that`s why your complaining? How do you know so much about the not so distant future?
Lack of fortitude and spine, is that your position? How about character, and integrity, and compassion? Have the details of the Republican and Tea Baggers plans completely passed you by? You think it is a display of fortitude and spine to cut payments to children, Head Start Programs, the old, the infirm, and the sick? Where is the character and compassion in that? Are the Republicans and Tea Baggers focusing on these areas because they are poor, and not a big voting block? Because they are not the quadrillionaires that line the Republicans pockets? Because they are not the large corporations that also line their pockets?
Do you really believe that it is in the long term best interests of this country to cut programs to education, lunch programs, supports for the poor, and medical care? Do you really believe that is in the best interests of this country, and not possibly closing lucrative tax loopholes for the rich and the big business? What about the Military? I'm not talking about salary and benefits for our service people, who deserve a whole lot more than we give them. No, lets cut wasteful programs like the second engine for the F-35 fighter, a program even the defense department doesn't want, but some blowhard politician wants the work for his district? Are these the things that you strongly believe are in the long term best interests of this country?
Get a life and stop listening to Fox news for your "Factoids"
More gibberish talking points from the Left...all lies! So sick of it! Families should not have kids if they can't raise them and take care of them - period! It's not Governments job to raise kids, pay for their education, feed them, take care of another countries citizens, etc... Get responsible for yourself, your family, your community....as for education...cut the admin..it's top heavy! the tax payer bears approx $100,000.00 per kid by high school graduation and they are no smarter, less educated and falling in the ranks of worldwide competitiveness...more money is not the answer...good teachers are! Fire the bad and all the wasteful goverment people sleeping on the job, sitting around sharpening pencils because parents complained so instead of firing them the hired a new teacher and put the bad one in a highter admin job so now tax payer pay for two salaries whild the Unions gets dues from two people rather than one....we lose more money and unions gain more money...the whole endoctrination that people can't take care of themselves without the Government is pure CRAP!
You know what? White, Black, Asian, Latino are waking up to the lies and realizing the left do nothing prosperous and just give lip service all while lining their own pockets. They are seeing unemployment, increased poverty, unfulfilled promises and worse care then they had before...ALL AMERICANS ARE WAKING UP TO THE PONY SHOW OF PELOSI, REID AND OBAMMIE!
Families should not have kids if they can't raise them and take care of them - period!
I suppose you are pro-choice.
More gibberish talking points from the Left.
Considering that you can't even spell the Presidents name, I can see why you would call rational thinking ....gibberish....
@Fletch - What president? I spelled it exactly as was deserving :)
I am PRO-Responsible! PRO-Accountable and PRO-American!
So... I'm confused, if they get rid of government is it gonna be hell on earth out there? I don't have to worry about flamming bottles coming through my 1 year old's window am i?
More like the box of kleenex is half full, you crybaby whiner.
Yeah, I bet that glass was half full of scotch,...
Love your name!
I'm in the Navy and I'm sitting here wondering why do I have to worry about getting paid because Congress is fighting over an abortion spending plan? What the heck does this have to do with the Defense budget?
well if you work for the governement its your own selfish foolish fault-be glad they even give you a job-and if I was you dont depend on them go into the private sector becAUSE the tea party is takin america back!!
I think you should lay down your arms and refuse to fight, No tickie, no Washie!!!
These teabaggers are getting a bit creepy.
Thank you for fighting for this country, maybe the Dems need to get their prioritys straight.........Men and women fighting for this country or the getto welfare getting their abortions for free.
Hey what happened to my post They just disappeared. Everyone is starting to creep me out.
People who always insult yet offer no solutions creep me out! Whaaa Whaaa, give me government, give me...Tea Partiers are Americans who know that less Government means more Freedom and less waste...abortions should be betweein the women and her family, not Government All of Reids and Pelosi's talking points are total lies and BS
so another temporary deal and it goes on no killin plant paranthood and all the other free clinics that award the free loaders to have free health insurance while us who do work have none basically-all of it is on our deductible while the non working slugs who drag us down get it all paid no questions asked-truthfully im sick of this and so are all of my tea party brothers dont cave shut these free loadin clinics down once and for all vote tea party were takin america back!
Limbaughger:
Obviously, basic grammar and spelling skills are NOT a prerequisite for being a member of the tea party.
Shame on you Limbaugher Cheese, There will be more welfare, more Pregnacies & the need for more state assistance without Planned parenthood. Cant have it both ways dude. Preventative contraceptives work. Or in your case, Maybe maybe they didnt!
Polly, it's not Governments jobs to raise babies or abort them....that for the woman, couple, family, etc. We need to stop making it so acceptable and condem irresponsible behavior or start sterilizing people. The wantoness and lack of self respect is unacceptable. We need to better educate and parents need to be involved (not too busy to care)....we are sending the wrong messages in society! I don't think PP has made things better but worse....more and more abortions like it's going to get your hair cut - DISGUSTING!
As long as we have people who support political parties instead of ideology that will ensures a better nation , America will continue to decline. The is no one to blame for what's happening in our country but ourselves. We have exactly what we elected. We are a divided and conquered nation. The rich owns all of you.
nice of you to admit it-most libs won't then can I count on you and your family washin my mersedes this weekend?
Limbaugher
You `re one crazy dude, but you are only hurting yourself What kind of a world would we have if we go back to slavery. If things go the way you plan what would be the incentive to work for you or anyone else. Does your plan include beating us into submission? terrorizing our families.
barb what did tyrone say to get that kind of response? he seemed ligit in his post
I meant you
If you in fact have a Mecedes, I would suggest you look at the owners manual for proper spelling before you try to reference it in a post.
Secondly, its a sad perception that Planned Parenthood only services the "ghetto", as a former student at a presitgious mostly white public univeristy, I can assure you that they also service college campuses and military basees although I am sure there were a few students catching the shuttle from other schools in the area for access the facilities. Further more, given the state of the economy, you would probably do best to note that many people who were recently working are now accessing their local social services in order to live and take care of their families after holding jobs for substantial amounts of time with benefits lost and investments dried up.
For everyone declaring that the projects and ghettos are turning out no gooders with no aspirations birthed to parents who do nothing, it would do you well to do some research into your favorite public figures and politicians who were once on welfare and/or public assistance although the Rep. might be disappointed to learn that the Bush family missed it only by virtue of doing business with Nazi establishments.
Not everyone born, raised, or dependent on public assistance is a child of a mother with 329874927 children that dropped out of high school and never worked a day in their lives. Some of these people are the widows and families of those same services members you're decrying the loss of, some of them are injured 9/11 rescue worker's who were denied funding for care. Are you so opinionated that you can't see past the stereotypes that drive the ignorance and madness.
Lastly, I am a woman and I resent my reproductive rights tagging along.
Now, Ty, Come on, I seem to remember our SCOTUS deciding an election way back in 2000. They handed the job to the self-described "uniter, not a divider" Bullsh**er-in-chief from the GREAT STATE of Texas, who upon entering the White House supposedly (according to one of his former staff members) issued a private quest to all of his underlings. Something to the effect of "Find a way to get us into Iraq." You have to wonder if it was sort of like a J.R. Ewing (from Dallas tv show) vendeta to extract revenge over Saddam's failed attempted plot to take Daddy Bush as he was being honored by Kuwait, Cheney must have felt he had stepped back in time to when if Nixon said it, you did it. No questions.
@Skeptictea...I'm a woman too and all the babies being born in this world of lawlessness and lack of decency is a total shame....families, aunts, uncles, private donations, churches, missions, etc need to take care of babies or put them up for adoption....there is way too much sleeping around without any accountability, responsibility or moral character...the fact that these clinics are a numbers game is disgusting...I totally get rape or incest but this baby popping and welfare scamming is a HUGE problem. It's almost like we're telling these teen moms, don't worry, government will put you on Medicaid and pay for you and your baby....we keep encouraging BAD behavior in this society from sleeping around to letting Illegals turn our cities into drug infested inner cities or health risk areas.
Tyrone, Limabuger's post was entirely inappropriate. I flagged him as inflammatory.
 Dear Congress, Last year I mismanaged my funds and this year I cannot decide on a budget. Until I have come to a unified decision that fits all of my needs and interests, I will have to shut down my checkbook and will no longer be able to pay my taxes. I'm sure you'll understand. Thank you very much for setting an example we can all follow!
Outstanding soldier!!!
have fun in the bin-what brought down al capone not payin taxes
Glass half full of ......
@!$%#!!!
A glass half full of crying, division and stupidity, and always willing to support the rich while sending the middle class further toward impoverishment.
face it tyrone-obamas tax cuts for the so middle class-the poor didnt work-why beause they hire no one-all that stimulus money went to walmart and china and to union thugs milkin us dry-they didnt even build the roads like they said they would-a total waste!! the gop is right give the money to those who hire quit wastin it on these losers the so called middle class-there a total failure and so is obama and his goofy ideas!!
Want to cut spending? Stop these damn fool wars with fourth-class countries and cut the size of the Congress at least by half. That includes staff for these arrogant non-producers also.
Presto. No debt.
Keep trying to cut Medicare and Social Security and you boys WILL have a war. You took our jobs and houses away, so it's time something gets taken from you.
your just a selfish low class welfare dude askin for another hand out in the name of social security-you know just because a employer who paid as much as you did-not only you but every employee and he lost his business and went out of business because of you because china has no social security and here you are askin for another welfare payment from us who do work to support lazy selfish seniors like you get a life take care of yourself instead of dependin on uncle sam-your the problem not the soulution vote tea party were takin america back!!
Limbaugher
What business are you in?
Limbaughger, Just in case you don't realize it, you behave very childishly, and you display very little intellect. It appears that life is a game to you. Your stupidity is not cute to us.
Limbaugheger......uhhh.....where are you planning to take America back to?
Barb H., it seems he is in the business of promoting anarchy.
Back to the dark ages...
Don't feed the trolls...
Counting to today this Congress has been in session a total of 38 days out of a possible 84 workdays, not including Sundays, and if they were as concerned as they claimed to be, Saturday would be a work day. I
say that neither political party has earned any respect from any working man or woman. And, now, the true colors of the Right to snuggle up more closely into the bosom of the ultra-wealthy (their puppet masters) by trying to remove the bargaining rights of those who are forced to work to eek out a meager living.
Why does the goal post keep moving? If the Right was to actually accept any solution, they would cut their own throats for they would be seen as actually participating in negotiations (i.e. collective bargaining).
Definition of TERRORISM
: the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion (like scaring the hell out of the disabled and elderly)
The Congress of the United States is no longer “of The United States.” It has been high-jacked by a group of terrorists. Mr. President, Stand Up and Repeat the “Bush Mantra”, “This nation will not negotiate with
terrorists”
lib watch some more si-fi movies and believe all the lib lies-no one believes you any more your ways brought us obama and the great obama depression.
Excellent post tc-331545
Seems like his screen name (limbaughger) belongs on some sort of cheese, but then, someone would bring up something about cuttin' da cheese.
Yeah Limbaugher Cheese most people eat it with Crackers! Hoghead cheese.
I was right about the cheese, but I sort of thought that it may have been more likely (in limbaugher's case) to have come from the opposite end of the hog.
Our elected officials are a bunch of polictical liars and so full of B.S. I guarantee if congress was effected by this possible shutdown, something would have been done long ago. They are effected so they don't care. Even Obama said as much when talking about the high price of gas, he hasn't pumped his own gas in 2 years so he has NO CLUE. Rumors are swirling that the military will have to take a 50% pay loss in their pay IF their is a shutdown, SHAME on congress. These men and women are defending this country and now if true they will have to worry about their families back home not having the money to keep things running. Our political system is broken if this is allowed to happen. Fire all the elected officials in D.C. and start over. WE elected them WE can send them packing. The democrats could have avoided all this a few months ago BEFORE the elections and voted on a budget; instead they were worried about their re-election efforts, shame on them. If you take care of the country the country will take care of you.
Oh, so, you have already forgotten the Republican Senatorial buzz word for the last Congressional term. The word was "NO." They used their filibuster perogative to require a super majority of 60 votes on getting anything to the floor. The fact that neither the Republicans in the House or Senate have done anything contructive in this new Congress proves that all of this "shutdown" crap was hatched in a Right-wing chicken coop.
Be careful tc331545. You are beginning to sound logical and speak with intellect. That will put you on the most hated list on this site. I have been there for over a year.
Oh, well. As the old saying goes, "You pays ya nickel and yous gets to ride."
Nah, still sounds like a obot.
Nah, you get a Kenyan posing as an American!
I guess now if they strike a deal by midnight, they'll say they worked painstakingly hour by hour for the American public and want a pat on the back. Politicians make me wanna barf.
Government died in the 60's. A politician since then is what's in it for me not the people. Just tell them what they want to hear to get elected for a free ride in Washington. If the goverment does shut down i really don't think most will really care at first. If it does shut down it just shows "We as the People" are not "We as the People" any more. Just way to much crap going on that i don't think any one can comprehend any more, It's time to get back to basics and re-write what "We as the People" expect from our goverment.
Congress IS NOT concerned about the common person if they were we would have a budget in place and not be facing what we are now. They are all liars and NOT to be trusted! They only say what they say to get votes and to get re-elected!
Al
You are so right, what I do not understand is why we even have elections anymore. They seem only for show.
Barb, We have elections in order for corparations and billionaires to spend any amount to fund the puppets and dancing monkeys and write it off on their taxes.
Both sides participate and then owe them their souls. I would rather elections be publicly funded and expenses kept to a strict minimum. But we all know that will never happen.
close our government down1
arizona you obviously aren't a part of those people that a shutdown would affect.this is all a ploy for the rich to avoid paying any more taxation and to make our president keep looking like everything is his fault for the mess we are in, which any idiot would realize that bush was the culprit...
you are a tard plain and simple.... they had 2 years to do this budget the dems that is not bush...
obama owns this now stop blaming bush........
@decerned in calif.--exactly!!!! Couldn't have said it better myself. For these ignorant folks on here commenting...we've got lots of federal employees out there that live paycheck to paycheck. They won't get paid if this shutdown occurs, and I'd be one of them. Military would get a half paycheck, and nothing after that. It's easy to say money doesn't matter if you're rich, have a trust fund, etc. But for the rest of the federal employees who DON'T have that going for us, we need a paycheck. We want the political bickering to stop so our careers can continue. Tired of everyone blaming the other side, blaming our President, blaming our poor, etc. Grow up! When you die, do you think people will remember what kind of car you drove, how big your house was, what brand of clothing you wore, or how much money you had in the bank?! NO!! People will never forget how you made them feel. Stop putting everybody else down and DO SOMETHING.
We all know the gov is inept and ignorant of the real truth!!
WE THE PEOPLE has been replaced by ME the people. Congress is more concerned about ME instead of WE! Fire them all. Time for us to take a stand and start a NEW party, one that puts AMERICA first NOT their own agenda!
Al. What would that party look like?
Not before they get a pay raise first
Hopefully not like the teaparty.
Or Barb H! Yuk!!