I would like to believe that the Teapublicans have finally blinked Pat... Guess time will tell!

I didn't see what lie Kyle told but am not surprised! Same with Boehner claiming this isn't about the rider, as a CO Congreswoman said earlier, then WHY doesn't he just take it off the table?

One things for sure, someones lying through their tobacco stained teeth...

Who Blinked? The taxpayer just saved $33-$38 billion dollars the first actual cut in US Spending in my 50 years on earth...Next round the Debt Ceiling and more cuts...Is the EPA rider still in this bill? If so a clear win.

Feisty, we will know before the night ends. Either during Lawrence or Rachel's program no doubt. Sen. Kyl said that 90% of what PP did was abortions. He's a liar.

marcos - I thought the EPA rider was also gone. Earlier today.

Destroy the environement AND take away health care. I can see they want life expectancy to fall well below current retirement age so they (the Rethuglicans) can raid SS because no-one will live long enough to collect. I say remove ALL riders and try to pass them as stand alone bills.

Senator Kyle and McCain embarrass me as a citizen of AZ.

Batman, the environment is so vitally important and should not be ignored. But the religious right aren't interested in science. They just aren't. We need to take the lead on environment issues around the globe. We need to challenge ourselves instead of just wanting to quit on every gd thing like the religious right wants to do.

They have nothing to offer the future generations except hate and crusades against anyone or thing they either dislike or don't understand. And the environment is not something they are educated in. Which is fine. But they should leave it to those who are. It's so hard for me to believe they're religious folks. It really is. They have utter contempt for women and minorities and the poor.

They don't in any way, shape or form follow the teachings of Jesus. They want to dictate everyone's lives. And our government is falling for it.

Mostly white older men of course. They're awful. Thank goodness for Senator Reid.

Well said pat.

What Alan Grayson said on the floor during healthcare and got called so many names and receipt of death threats by the Baggers has shown how truthful Grayson's statement was -- the ReThuglicans idea of healthcare is to 'hurry up and die'

I just saw this over @ DailyKos:

A new poll (PDF) from Hart Research, a firm founded by respected Democratic pollster Peter Hart, shows widespread opposition to defunding Planned Parenthood. By a 64-28 margin, registered voters are against ending government funding for PP, an organization which is viewed positively by 55% (and negatively by just 25%). Democrats, as you'd expect, are most opposed (86%), but independents are as well, by a very broad 64-29 spread.

The poll showed that it is the religious right who want to defund it.

Jack-2510943 only 2.6% of PP budget goes to abortions, as seen in their annual report.

Than means that the other 97.4% is going to other things. Like cancer screenings, sex ed, birth control, etc etc. Its not that "the Dumbocrats call killing unborn children 'women's health'." Its that we realize that Planned Parenthood does a hell of a lot more good than bad.

C'mon Feisty, the President gave up smoking.......or so he said????????

I can not understand why such hateful sob`s are so against abortion. The people that choose to have an abortion make that decision because they do not feel there is a better option for them. Planned parenthood gives them options in lots of cases talking them out of abortion, and keeping them healthy so they can give up the child for adoption.

I cannot believe you people think the government should be involved in the killing of babies. Oh I am sorry I should have fetuses. That makes you all feel better. Change the words so you can lie to yourselves. The truth doesn't matter as long as you feel good.

I don't like the way Republicans have used tangential issues like environmental regulations to hold up the spending bill. If they really cared about fiscal discipline, they'd avoid such diversions and home in on Pentagon spending, which is an accounting fiasco. Nonetheless, Planned Parenthood funding from the feds should be nixed. Such funding is an indirect subsidy for abortions, since a percentage, however small, of the organization's budget funds abortions. Abortion is too contentious an issue -- piercing deep-seated sensibilities and convictions about the sanctity of life itself -- to bear even remote linkage to federal funding. No taxpayer should have to agonize over whether his or her money is helping to bankroll such a procedure.

lol. republicans showing their true colors. its was easy for them to say no to everything when they had a minority. now that they actually have to govern, its a whole different story.

Take responsibility--you all are so worried about the unborn, but once these babies are born, you have no compunction about killing them with a lack of food, shelter, or medical care. By all means, save the unborn and not give a $$it about what happens to them aferwards--killing is killing--you are hypocrites!

Brian, I would think that everyone hates abortions, even those who ultimately make the decision to get one. PP helps in avoiding abortions for one thing.

There has to be an organization here in America where young women can go for advice in dealing with these issues. It's a private, personal matter and we should not be butting in.

Unwanted pregancies is everyone's goal. What better place to go than a place like PP where you can get help not only in dealing with unwanted pregancies but advice in how to avoid unwanted pregnacies.

And like has been stated so often here, the government doesn't pay for abortions.

To me it's just a sad sad situation. And Kyl and Boehner and the religious right need to mind their own business.

Being young these days is tough. Sex is everywhere. And they're too young to make a responsible decision on their own. That's a fact.

Barb,

It is simple we value life and we want to encourage responsibility.

I'm sorry, but "prolifer" is such a misnomer. If it had a true meaning, it would be someone that 1) doesn't belive in abortion, 2)or the death penalty, and 3) is a vegan as they would consider ALL life sacred, not just human life. Maybe that's just me.

To "takesresponsibility" - I don't like a multibillion dollar budget held up that will affect millions of people (including our troops) for some mis-guided philosophy about "murdering" bits of tissue. The repulsivecans and their TP constituents are up in arms about abortion - but as soon as the kid is born - nope, we won't pay to feed it or clothe it or give it decent healthcare. What a crock.

Boehner has a two-digit IQ, and I am happy to give him one [digit] more. It's called half the peace sign.

I'm against the tax exempt status for churches, which generally propagate hate, spread fables, build mega church empires, go overseas to try to convince people their beliefs are wrong and generally do no one any good. Does that mean our tax dollars (or lack of tax revenue from them) should be used to promote these ponzi schemes? How about we reverse their status - that should take care of a fair amount of the deficit. BTW - the Courts and all the subsequent challenges to R v. W support a woman's right to an abortion - that makes it just as legal as anything else - Viagra, for instance. Which is on the Medicaid/Medicare schedule.

I don't understand how republicans can be against abortions when they are in favor of war and death penalty? What is the difference? They totally contradict themselves. They want to make sure fetos are born but to let them die of hunger and illneses once they are born. Republicans Are against women and the poor that is the truth. PP does not fund abortions. They provide cancer screenings, contraceptives, treatment to women with STD's and that saves many lives. By analyzing all of this, in reality the ones pro life are the democrats. Rublicans do not value life as they say. Otherwise they wouldn't go against the plans and services that save women's lives. Cutting the budget? If they paid all the trillions of tax cuts they have given themselves for the llast 11 years, that would help the great downfall but they have to abuse and punish the needy. Republicans are terrorizing the democrat leaders with thier government shutdown but I think their scare tactics are not working anymore.

For those of you that can't read and understand simple english. let's try this again: Not one (1) single federal dollar is spent to fund abortions!!!! It is against the law. Only one third (1/3) of planned parenthood's budget is funded by the federal government through contracts and grants, the rest is funded through private (did you catch that--private) donors (700,000+ membership base) including the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, Buffett Foundation, Ford Foundation, Ted Turner Foundation, the Cullmans and others. The law, "Family Planning Services And Population Research Act", was enacted in 1970 by Richard M. Nixon (for those too young to remember or to stupid to learn in school--he's was the "Republican" president at that time).

Now, did those who had their heads in an undisclosed location understand any/all of that!!! If you didn't you can read more about it through several hundred resources on this thing called the internet. Better yet go to planned parenthood's website and read what they're about, or go to a P.P. facility and ask about their services......you might learn some facts; not info "trickled down" to you from biased/ill-informed political constiuents. You can feel justified in this thought though.....if you view someone who gets an abortion as disgusting/undesireable you can sleep good at night knowing their offspring has been terminated!!! Does that make you feel better? You clearly don't care about people, only in controlling their lives/beliefs. :\ Uneducated hypocrits and religious zealots, or commonly known as Republican/TeaBaggers, makes me more afraid for the American public than any Muslim.

"Better yet go to planned parenthood's website and read what they're about, or go to a P.P. facility and ask about their services......you might learn some facts; not info "trickled down" to you from biased/ill-informed political constiuents."

I think avoiding facts in favor of spreading half-truths and lies is an art form that the far right has mastered, especially since they invited the mad hatter and the white rabbit and the queen of hearts (off with their heads!) to join ranks!

"You clearly don't care about people, "

chants of : ("cut it or shut it" OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!)

...only in controlling their lives/beliefs. :\ Uneducated hypocrits and religious zealots, or commonly known as Republican/TeaBaggers, makes me more afraid for the American public than any Muslim\"

Absolutely they are a bigger threat to OUR way of life than any other group around. They spread lies and propaganda and are the ignorant and unwitting henchmen (and henchwomen!) of the corporate elite, worse still they are SO ignorant that they don't even get who is on the other end of their leash! I have never known so many Americans to vote in ways that are so wholly contrary to their best interests and the best interests of their OWN children and grandchildren as the Teapubikkkans are.

While I am pro-choice I read something recently that stuck "The one thing that doesn't abide by majority rule is a person's conscience" Harper Lee. Author " To kill a Mockingbird"

yeah, abortion is such a great thing for "women, minorities, the working class and the poor." no problem with planned parenthood providing basic health resources for women, minorities, the working class and poor, but they get lots of private donations - don't need the government to provide it.

hey Walter next time you get knocked up by all means you keep that baby...ohhhh wait you can't get pregnant... never mind

I did, and it's the best thing that has ever happened to me.

If abortion had been available as a last resort years ago you wouln't have to put up with McCain, Boehner, Bachmann, nor Wailin' Palin today.

Exactly - more rampant spending on numerous worthless projects (and if planned parenthood is so essential then i am sure all the people who you say are for it will willingly fund it out of their weekly paychecks in an act of charity - but you abd I both know that won't happen)...Why does the left always think that when someone tries to do the responsible thing (cut spending) they think it is an act of malice towards the programs that they hold near and dear?

That's pretty sick ORB. Given the statistics on abortion and who obtains them. You are as disgusting.

Hey Pat my suggestion to the Democrats is to submit on the floor to put a Tax on Viagra after all 25 million men take Viagra and how many take Cialis think of the money we can raise - after all why don't we go after the "MEN?"

Well, jed, it's clear your education was a failure.

Your voluntary ignorance is beyond belief! What the hell are you talking about? Abortions are NOT funded by the government, they never were and probably never will, but of course that is of no importance to you. You just keep repeating the Tea Party and Repugnican line, true or not.

That is the way you guys operate, a la Glenn Beck, Hannity and the rest of the fear mongers on the fringes of the right maniacs, who prefer to see the country going down the drain in order not to give up on your deranged anti-anything-Oabama. I can't wait for 1012.

@jed - you need to use that brain and not just listen to what you hear from fox

1. Pap Smears: Can't afford a cervical cancer screening? Planned Parenthood has your back.
2. Pregnancy Testing and Services: The organization helps women who are pregnant or are thinking about becoming pregnant get prenatal care.
3. Diabetes Screening: Depending on location, you can get general health care services like diabetes screening, flu vaccines, or anemia testing at Planned Parenthood.
4. Breast Cancer Screening: The organization provides valuable breast exams and helps women find services they might need.
5. STD Testing, Treatment, and Prevention: Planned Parenthood provides free condoms, HPV vaccines, and STD testing and treatment.
6. Male Infertility Screening and Referral: The organization offers a variety of male sexual health services, like infertility screening, testicular cancer screening, and erectile dysfunction services. Are the congressmen aware of this?
7. Menopause Help: It might not make headlines like abortion services, but Planned Parenthood's health centers offer midlife services to help women deal with menopause.

jed you seen intelligent, but ...the government does NOT fund abortions...the government does NOT fund abortions... the government does NOT fund abortions... it is illegal... it is against the law... the government does NOT fund abortions. your banned from watching fox news for one week

Jed can you reference your source. Faux news and affiliates do not count.

jack you may want to seek a professional, i don't think i can help you

What about when a girl is date raped, if she was your daughter wouldn`t you want her to have options?

" Anyone really liking the present results?"

Um, yeah.

But then I don't blame the government for problems with kids.

At least not for anything but those caused by the failure that is No Child Left Behind.

Try this.

Teach your kid critical thinking.

Teach your kid that their actions have consequences.

Teach your kid that to weigh options before making a decision.

Teach your kid to find information about those decisions, how to evaluate it, and give them access.

Then the problems you're refering to pretty much go away.

I have a great idea that I know will be severely criticized but here it goes.

Everyone knows that alcohol creates tons of health problems and accidental deaths yearly. And alcohol is legal for those over 21. Marajuana on the other hand is illegal and does not cause as many health problems as alcohol nor has it been shown to be anymore of a gateway drug than cigarettes. Marajuana is also the biggest drug problem we have in this country. So... let's legalize marajuana, tax the crap out of it and then we'll have money to get ourselves out of this economic mess that we are in. I see it as a win-win. The argument that it's bad for you is nonsense because we as a country obviously don't care. If we did then alcohol would be illegal and cigarettes would be illegal and junk food would be illegal.

yes I would want her to have choice, I would also like the choice of nailing the jerk involved to a wooden floor buy his junk giving him a bucher knife and setting the floor on fire, not much chance I know because he ( the rapist ) has rights that supercede the victims rights dont ya know. but I digress, Dems and repubs are all to blame and we should take a fire hose to both houses and wash them clean and start completly new with no lifelong politicians . Just my opinion thanks for your time

Ed-2022915 you are wrong! Mooning Boehner is about the only language he will understand. Remember, he has very limited intelligence and any words longer than one syllable confuse him.

You NAILED it Anna with your post!

You call .408% of all income EARNED in the USA. Dangerously low spending? Holy crap!!!!

Ana, you should be tired. All women should be freakin' tired of it by now.

Great post.

American voters....STOCKHOLM SYNDROME. We have a great fear love for our corporate torturers and their tea party. Republicans win all government branches in 2012 by 50.00001% to 49.99999% with aggressive voter suppression techniques.

But Ana the good book says you all should be subservent and in the kitchen!

Reid, Pelosi, and Obama have shown their true colors. They all could give a DAMN about our military. The funding for NPR and Planned Parenthood is far more important than our fighting men getting paid.

Interesting attitude, jack-off. Sounds like you are more interested in controlling the sex lives of women than protecting innocent lives. You don't seem to mind when innocent men women and children, including babies born and unborn are killed in places like Fallujah, Iraq, nor do you call for the subpoena empowered investigation and prosecution of those responsible for the mass murder of innocent Americans on 9/11, some of whom may have been as yet unborn. Your inconsistency is appalling.

google "paid right wing troll" then see above comments

Bob, you must have flunked math.

After the elections in Wi. I hope our votes will be counted. I think it strange that most of the sites I go to are left or left leaning independents, but the tea party is getting their way. VERY STRANGE TO ME.

Ana--thank you!

I'm with you Ana, I have 15 friends male and female, 5 are republicans that will do everything in thier power to take out the republicans for 2012!! We are done!!!

I'm sick of everyone playing partisan politics. From my own personal experience: a friend went to PP. Not only was she NOT told about other options, she was assured that having an abortion would be no different from removing a cotton ball from her uterus. She begged me to look up human embryos at that stage of develpment-this was prior to the internet, but I worked at a medical school library. I found that the embryo at that stage had a beating heart and a rudimentary nervous system. Granted, this was a number of years ago and things may have changed; but my friend was furious! Forgive me for not sharing names or locations for confirmation, but this info was kept rather private for obvious reasons!

As far as pro life people not caring once a baby is born-I am really tired of that old talking point. If you really knew many pro life people, you would know that is simply not true of most of them. (While I can understand some of your dismay when certain social programs are cut, the issues are not necessarily directly connected. I do not agree with all the proposed cuts, but I also do not agree that it should be easy for just anyone to be able to get a handout-there has to be some sort of personal resonsibility involved for people to thrive. In other words, there needs to be a balance; and I honestly don't think either party has found it.) Regarding prolifers and babies, I know MANY prolifers who have volunteered to help both mothers with unexpected pregnancies AND their babies. In the situations I am aware of the pregnant women always had a choice of what they wanted to do with absolutely no coercion (certainly not when I was there!)

I was under the impression that we all want to make abortion rare. Was I mistaken about that? If we do, in fact, want to make it rare, then it stands to reason that alternatives might possibly be discussed. Where I volunteered, if a woman decided to have her baby, the women earned points by attending parenting classes or watching videos (all of which were free with free babysitting), and they used the points to purchase needed baby items or even children's clothing up to 4T. We had brand new strollers and cribs as well as diapers, wipes, formula, etc.-all could be purchased with points which were easy to accumulate. I once had a client who was not even pregnant-she was a former client with kids already who had fallen on hard times; another invited me to her baby shower, and I went, even though most of it was in Creole. (It was a joy to see her family gathered around supporting her, and a relative translated some of it for me.) One client even called me at home when she became really overwhelmed after her baby was born-she was the youngest client I had who gave birth. Other counselors did the same or similar. Some event attended the births with their clients!(There was certainly no policy that we needed to give our my home numbers or go to baby showers!) Our director sometimes gave women money for bus fare if they felt they needed to go out of town to get help from relatives or friends. We also helped clients find out about social services and helped get them hooked up with services as needed-yes, all those services you are convinced we all wished to deny them and their children. Not one of OUR services cost them or tax payers a penny. So don't tell me we didn't care about these women or their children!

As an aside, I am definitely not a Tea Partier, nor am I a supporter of the Republicans mentioned by Ana. Maybe I answered the wrong post. I just get really tired of being stereotyped.

Also, I don't know or care what percentage of its budget PP spends on abortion. It's too easy to manipulate things like that-for both sides.

American, so I'm lying b/c my friend's experience was different from yours? Well, one definite difference was that her mind was NOT made up when she went to PP. She was seeking information from them. As for the place where I volunteered, you seem to think we did not respect a woman's choice or liberties. Granted, I never said what happened if a woman decided to get an abortion. If abortion was in fact her decision, she was free to do so with no argument or judgment from us-at least not from me, when I was volunteering. Our training was VERY strict about not trying to coerce clients in any way.

Just FYI, I have had an abortion. The pregnancy was the result of incest. Believe me when I say I that I know about respecting women's choices. If anyone wants to protect women and children I do. I know many other women who have had abortions, and I have witnessed their agony as they told their experiences. One really tough woman who had been a prostitute sobbed as she told a group she simply could not go through with her fourth abortion. The women who came to us were considering abortion only because they felt they had no other choice, not just casually as birth control. I never, ever took that lightly. Not every woman who has had abortions feels agony, of course; but I think those who do form the dark underbelly of the abortion debate-the part that no one wants to talk about. Hence the debate about "choice" not about what that cluster of cells in the uterus really is.

No, bring the troops home and stop intervening in other countries affairs. If Lybia was a strawberry producing country, we wouldn't even know if crazy Kadaffi killed the whole population, but if we knew... we couldn't care less.

Well if you can't bring them home the priority should be that they get paid. They are a volunteer military not a slave military.

First off, it's LIBYA. L-I-B-Y-A ; NOT Lybia. It's been all over the news for weeks now. Geeezus you people are a bunch of illiterates. No wonder you think genocide is okay unless it is taking place on top of cheap oil you would like to burn in wasteful pursuits. Then you think it is the only time to use it as an excuse, like in Iraq, to intervene.

Yes, but that does not mean we can send them to kill and mame people who have done nothing to us.

Throughout our history we have invaded countries and installed dictators to do our bidding in the name of the corporations who owned thouse coutries. We have bases in more than 120 countries, in the name of what? Not for THEIR protection, that's for sure.

But you are right, they should be paid no matter what.

What about the soldiers that are here in the states? Do they deserve to get paid? I agree that they should get paid first. Especially the ones overseas.

Paul - be careful and reread your post. If you criticize others spelling you should avoid using incorrect grammar (The you think...).

Paul, anybody can make an error, especially when writing in a hurry. Illiterate? Speak for youself.

And where do you get off by saying that WE libs. think genocide is OK? Maybe you are the illiterate, nobody said anything of the sort.

And it's not Libya, it's LIVEEA.

Tell Harry Reid and Obama !! They are the ones who turned the Rand Paul bill to pay the military the rest of 2011. Guess NPR is more important than our servicemen

I make No distinction between deployed overseas and domestic military active duty personnel, they should ALL receive a timely paycheck.

The soldiers should have priority over congress, notice they don`t lose anything. They cause the crap, they should give up their pay too.

Many Republicans have, don't know that any liberals have, you know, they only spend OTHER people's money.

It is not just a spelling error. Look at Rasputin's weak attempt to justify is unobservant nature by quibbling over the pronunciation of LIBYA, rather than just acknowledging his error.

Trish, reread your inaccurate non-quoting of my grammatical error.

The point I was trying to make, yes spelling and grammatical errors are commonplace on a blog, is that when a word is placed in front of your face for weeks, and not a difficult one to get right, like LIBYA, you ought to be observant enough to recognize that you are spelling, and therefore likely pronouncing, it wrongly.

Illiterate was harsh. I retract the charge. My bad.

Dale I can't mark this as inflammatory, just dumb, sorry. Well thought out, but utterly ridiculous.

You take take ALL the money the wealthy made last year and it wouldn't make up the deficit the Democrats are running up. The present defict is nearly the total GDP and the Democrats don't want to cut anything. They are selling the future of our children for big handouts to GE and other cronies.

This socialist idiocy is what passes for liberal "ideas".

Confiscate and steal property and give it to others...there will be a "finder's fee" for Dale, no doubt...

Yeah Ray, you are right, especially when we know that Obama inherited a surplus, peace, and a blooming economy creating 700.000 jobs a month under Bush.

But people don't understand you, forgive them.

I am a liberal democrat, I want to make that perfectly clear so I don't get lumped in with these right wing hate spewing wackos, but Dale, come on, really.

Batman85; just got back but you can not see how this plan would work; the country would be on solid ground in two years, and millions of jobs would be created If the gov. waits for two years and longer to get these jobs back these millions of people will cost the country that much money and more.

with these people being helped it would allow the gov. to cut more waste and pay the deficit off much faster, this alone would save the country many billions of dollars in interest payments, the people who are working would start making more money, because they would be a demand for workers, and the companies would have to pay more to get workers, the states would be stabilised overnight, creating more jobs, and demand in the markets.

the SS would get more taxes, with everyone paying into it, there are many benefits in this plan, the trouble with it is that" this is not the normal way of doing business, and people are greedy, and blind, and would rather stretch this out for years instead of solving it overnight, because they are afraid that someone on the bottom might actually pull themselves out of the financial nightmare that the greedy have put them in because of there corruption!!!

The other thing is that the plan I posted includes the middle class tax cuts to to pay on the deficit, so to the ones that say take from the rich, why not take back the tax cuts from them, If the middle class can pay so can they, seams to me that they both are afraid the poor lower class might get some help, most Christian people I know want to help the poor, and the lower class!!!

Batman85; in response to your comment 7.1 above about being dumb, and utterly ridiculous, you read the plan but your mind could not comprehend it, and you may never be able to see the brilliance of it, my guess is that you crunched the numbers quickly trying to prove it wrong, and totally missed the brilliance of what it would do if it were implemented, there are many things in it that would trigger economical domino effects, that go beyond where you are able to think, not your fault, even some economic teachers can not grasp it because they are locked into a box, and they can not think outside of it, so take it and study it it will help you to be able to think on a higher level!!! "Really"

Ray W: If you take back all the tax breaks from the wealthy, and the middle class over the last ten years you could almost pay off the national debt!!!

does that give you a clue ? you keep blaming someone well its not someone its everyone!!!

Bob-1887910 : When they wealthy banks took money from people and used it to keep from collapsing, they got bonuses, in the billions of dollars, this is discrimination to fluff me off with a mere finders fee, You really do buy into that different classes thing don't you?

As a man in the middle lets send the tea party as well as the Pelosi democrats over and that would be a good start.

Marcos I suggest all you men give up your Viagra it is my understanding that Planned Parenthood also provides this

You are another one who would leave our servicmen defending our country out in the cold rather than cut any funding for Planned Parenthood or NPR. I guess we each have our priorities. Our servicement now know where the priorities of the Democrats are.

Ray, that's not true. Why should anyone be left out in the cold? That's the point here. We should be taking care of people, ALL people - the poor and the military and women who need health care.

We're all Americans here. PP is an important organization and they shouldn't be used by the despicable religious right. Period.

Ray clearly the Republicans are simply using the military as hostages, again, so that they can attempt to force social changes they have been trying to force on women for years. All the Republicans have to do is not try to eliminate planned parenthood (which is NOT abortion!) and just accept the 38 billion in cuts that are there. After that both sides can seriously sit down and look at whats available and where cuts can be made most effectively rather than just start slicing through programs they dont know anything about willy nilly.

Rob

I am no tea party man but neither am I a Pelosi democrat...Any spending cuts are a win for the Taxpayer period. I oppose defunding Title X. The EPA regulations will result in a loss of jobs and higher energy bills and just because we do not do it today the day will come...and why don't you cut the Progressive bullcrap are you a Cowboy Poet? We are on an unsustainable path and if you and your like minded people do not see it you are in denial. I support the gang of Six and a shared sacrifice approach much in the Simpson Bowels commission.

Cuts are coming now and in the future we will replay this argument again when the debt ceiling debate begins and then again on the 2012 budget.

Correct. This is the prelim. The main event will be far more serious.

Round one of a 3-4 round bout has nearly concluded. Just wait for the cuts coming next when the $1.65 trillion shortfall has to be addressed and the debt ceiling has to be raised. Then the choices will be much more harsh. The ones talked about here are likely to be meager by comparison. When those debates start, time to pop some popcorn and watch the sparks fly.

Ray, I find it interesting that you would jump to claim that myself an independent cares less about the military along with no care for our country because right wing males want to take away womens rights, let me make this clear to you. Republicans will lose a huge battle if PP is defunded. We did not want servicemen to go to war. Blame your past president for that decision. People soon forget. I will remember 2012 as well. Republicans will fail!

I remember the election that happened just the other day in Wisconsin. It appears to have implications as to how the American Voters viewed the tactics that the unions used against the governor.

The Left and the Right are courting the voters in the middle. I don't think that those voters care one way or the other about Planned Parenthood.

You do realize conservatives take full advantage of all those domestic programs as well right? oh what would they do without their meidcare and social security!

I need Social Security and Medicare and rely on it. I also have a small 401K and IRA that has government bonds that I am concerned about. That is why the possibility that the US is going completely down the toilet with debt scares the hell out of me. You are 100% correct that conservative retired people like me need these. I just realize that any government promises will not mean squat one we go under.

Hey Jeff I start working when I was 15 and paid into Social Security for 55 years it is not an entitlement but what I paid and was matched by employers, OK I'm out give me back all my money compounded with interest - and I'll walk quitely away, by the way so has my husband at the top dollars, when I retired I was making over $165,000 a year as he was - where do you get your crap from Oh yes Faux News!

I don't know that "popularity" equates to whether their ideas are right or wrong. I understand that suggesting we cut budgets will not be popular, but if nothing is done the consequences are far worse. We can argue about where to cut, but arguing to continue stealing from our kids until we destroy the US I believe is asinine.

The morally correct thing to do is fix the mess we are in so that we can at least take care of the most needy among us. To do nothing or the pennies on the dollar we are arguing about now will lead to Draconian cuts not of our choosing...if the bond market reflects what just happened in Europe and it cost's us 6% instead of the current 2% to borrow money look out it will not be pretty. We pay $5 billion every 30 hrs on the interest of the debt, every American now owes $240,000 as their share of the debt, this madness can not be sustained. The math does not lie.

I would love to hear Gov. Daniels debate President Obama on the role of Government and how we pay for it.

The Tea Party did ok in Wisconsin the Democrats and the unions put up a lot of sound and fury signifying nothing.

There was an election just the other day and the Democrat lost.

The recall petitions for the Republican will also be a test to determine whether or not the Tea party is supported by the American voters.

All I did when he said that was laugh. I personally found it to be hilarious.

yea guys whada ya think ? "the donald" for president ? yea, he knows all about bankruptcy. how many times was it? not counting morally. 2-3?

The unfunding of Planned Parenthood will no take away any access to birth control, cancer screening, and testing. Those services are available to poor women at plenty of clinics. PP does very little if any cancer screening by their own admission. They do not do mamogram or pap smears. By their own public filings, over 75% of PP's money is made from abortion services. It is time for the American taxpayers to stop funding what is on a majority basis an abortion mill.

Those services are available to poor women at plenty of clinics.

I see you can talk the talk, but, can YOU walk the walk? Sources please - hope you're not offended if I don't take 'you're' word for it!

Around here we deal in facts - if you can't substantiate your claim, it's probably a good time to scurry back over to Faux & Freaks!

Feisty,

You are a paid troll of MSNBC. Can you actually site examples without cuting and pasting from a liberal website you subscribe to?

So Feisty, how's that Obama War going for you?

Ray, unfortunately you are wrong. There may be plenty of public health clinics where YOU live, but this is not true everywhere. As a former client of the gyn services at PP (annual gyn exams and birth control), I can attest that they DO perform Pap Smears. EVERY DAY. They also do sexually transmitted disease testing. They also are involved in getting men and women birth control of various types. Does PP perform abortions? Yes - those are paid for either by the woman or by private donors. They also provide pre-natal care so that BABIES can be born HEALTHY so they can starve because their mom had her WIC or food stamps cut off since the Republicans want to stop THOSE programs as well. Also, the baby won't have any medical care of their own since CHILDREN are the primary users of Medicaid and the Republicans want to drive THAT program under as well.

Stop believing everything the Right Wing tells you, dear. They are full of propoganda. Yes, I admit that my statements above are DRAMATIC, but they are the natural consequences of what I have seen proposed.

Ray, 75%? where in the blazes did you get that number. Their annual report says 2-3%

PP is not just for women, anymore than being responsible in ones sex life is purely a women's issue. Men can have prostate exams, vasectomies, among other services performed at PP. And I don't know about you Ray but womens health is very important to me as I have family and friends that happen to be women that I care about.

Mandy you are right with the numbers, I just want to add that PP is not funded 100% by the Fed, and Abortions are not funded by tax dollars. This issue is a distraction from the real issue.

Right you are, Bill, also in addition, money for abortions cannot come from federal money, its already illegal. Which is also something that seems to be forgotten.

Maybe we should line up their names and have appropriate States Recall. I have already called for that in Colorado, for Cory Gardner, the instigator of the EPA legislation - all of those people who sponsored that legislation got $10,000 from the Koch Brothers - so they are doing the bidding of the Koch brothers and ignoring their constituents.

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I don't know about you, but I don't see an awful lot of facts on this site, although there is a lot of name calling and slamming, but usually no support.

Art...

Not if my vote means anything...

Just Saying...

Your right. My phone has been ringing all day and for many days now. Women are pissed!! They don't just see the abortion debate. They see that republicans have been throwing the bible and their sexist ways towards women for years. This is all they have wanted since they took power. No job solution just take away from women. We are not going to allow this. In my town of San Luis Obispo we have over 700 women that are getting together to do what we can to shut down republicans for the rest of our future. Get it straight republicans it's not Sarah Palin that you need to fear anymore it's women, and we are going to stand so high that your bible will not protect your sanity any longer!

Perhaps we can use your California shut down as model. Tell us how you do it. And how that budget battle is working out at the state level.

Christy from SLO,

Why don't you have your 700 or so women go out to protest the ObamaWar?

Or why not go out to protest the CA budget impass created by our Spending Party, those loveable Democrats who can't seem to stop spending when the state has no funds. Oh, the Democratic way to balance the budget is with additional taxes, so they can generate more spending.

Linda...

Then cut the funding - stop bitching and tell your rep to stop all this wasteful funding that is going to the "red" states. I hear this BS time and time again and its just "moveon.org" talking points. Don't you have any original thoughts of your own. You are nothing but a mouthpiece spewing stupid socialist drivel.

Cut all the non-defense, non-law enforcement funding....and then lets see what George Soros will direct you to bitch about next...

Just Saying...

Let's see - Which states are in the most trouble financially? Could it be "left" coast California and 50 years of Dem control Michigan?

touche'

Yes. I think we should apologize for the Civil War, let all the idiots who don't want to pay taxes move to the red states, give asylum in the blue states for the thinking folks from the red states and leave the idiots to wallow in bad schools, poverty and ill health (but low taxes.)

Is it not funny to debate the fiscal merits of red versus blue states.

You mean that the government should do something in OUR best interest? You mean the people?

What are you? A Communist? Geez!

John come now, we all know the best way to keep health care costs down is by having absolutely NO preventative medicine, and I mean for anyone. That way everyone can go the the ER deathly ill and inccur tens of thousands of dollars worth of treatments that they cannot pay and thus the government has to cover them. And it gets even better! Then their health insurance companies either drop them or refuse to pay because now they have a preexisting condition or some such BS and ALL future health care costs can bankrupt the population and thus force the government to pay even more. Really flawless logic!

anyone else notice the similarity in state (wisc. ohio,maine, tex, ar. ect.) and fed rebulican legislation? google "who's really behind republican legislation" good article in the ny times answers, alot of questions about ALEC, american legislation exchange commision. also "the heritage foundation" had alot to do on ryans new budget proposal.

Abortion is not "healthcare". Heated Dems in Washington today said republicans are "throwing women and children under the bus..." Funny, I thought abortion was throwing children under the bus........

Mr White - lover of babies - how many babies do you have or birthed - better still - what have you given of your time- to be a "Big Brother" what of your time have you volunteered for? Need an answer to understand where you are coming from?

I would have someone lousy at public speaking that an excellent salesman like Obama with nothing to say. I don't judge presidents on salesmanship.

But the liberals do judge performance on what is said not what is done. It's not about results for them it ALL about intent.