Anti-abortion rights group hits Obama, Reid over Planned Parenthood funding

From NBC's Jason Seher
Democrats and Republicans can’t quite agree on what has been preventing them from cutting a budget deal -- ideology (riders on abortion and Planned Parenthood) or, as House Speaker John Boehner contends, the amount of spending cuts proposed.

On a conference call this afternoon, the conservative anti-abortion-rights group, Susan B. Anthony List, criticized Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) for what they see as threatening a shutdown over funding Planned Parenthood.   

"It is the height of unreasonableness for this president to single out Planned Parenthood," said Marjorie Dannenfelser, president of the group. "Why is it reasonable to shut down the government in order to protect this one organization?"

Dannenfelser, a former staff director of the Congressional Pro-Life caucus, accused Planned Parenthood of running on "an abortion-center corporate model" that would funnel the $363 million in of Title X funding in question to increasing abortion services. Federal money is already not allowed to go toward funding abortions. Planned Parenthood notes that 95% of its services are non-abortion related health services, like cancer screenings and providing birth control.

The policy rider Republicans attached to the proposed budget deal would block Planned Parenthood from receiving those funds. Dismissing Democratic claims her group and like-minded Republican lawmakers are waging a war on women, Dannenfelser and Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) said the rider redirects the $363 million to one of the country's other 1,700 federally qualified women's healthcare providers. 

Dannenfelser claimed Planned Parenthood only acts as a primary care provider for 19,000 of the 3 million female patients the organization sees each year and cutting their funding will not cause a reduction in women's health services. Planned Parenthood says that’s not true. Saying "come on" in response to a reporter’s assertion that Planned Parenthood cannot use federal money to pay for abortion services, Jordan insisted the money they receive is "fungible" and said he believes most of those funds do help pay for abortions.

"For them to make that claim," Jordan said, "it's just common sense that money is fungible."

Noting that Boehner did not go into specifics in the most recent Republican conference meeting, Jordan said he's not sure where negotiations stand. He still insisted, however, the primary obstacle to reaching a budget deal was savings and House Republicans remain focused on "achieving real savings for the taxpayer." Expressing his disbelief that the government is on the brink of a shutdown, Jordan made this argument: that it's unfair President Obama and Reid are prioritizing protecting Planned Parenthood's funding over the paychecks of federal employees.

"The vast majority of Americans, whether they're pro-life or not," Jordan said, "don't want their tax dollars to be used to take the lives of unborn children."

When pressed over whether Republicans would compromise on the rider, Jordan said he did not have enough details to answer the question. Jordan said that "pro-life protections" belong in the budget debate and, if it's not dealt with now, the issue will arise again in the near future.

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It's becoming more apparent with each passing hour, that this really is ALL about who's going to blink first!

The Democrats have certainly done an honest & amazing job at framing what's REALLY going on in DC!

The fiscal demands of the extortionists have not only met but exceeded!

This is nothing more than an attempt by extreme ideologues to circumvent women's reproductive rights!

Anyone smarter than a 5th grader can see that!

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#1 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 5:42 PM EDT

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

It's just unbeliablve how the republi-clown/T-baggers continue to LIE about the funding.

Republicans also want to prohibit payments for abortions overseas -- a policy that was overturned by an executive order from Obama.

House Republicans want to take all federal funds slated for Planned Parenthood and other family planning organizations and give it to state health departments to use as they see fit. That way, states controlled by Republican legislatures would choose not to give that money to Planned Parenthood while state capitals controlled by Democrats would keep things status quo.

These people are wackos.

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#1.1 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 5:47 PM EDT

I say "Shut It Down" along with 1st Read, until someone actually shows How to Run It!

Is NewsVine on the Chopping Block as well?

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#1.2 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 6:05 PM EDT

Honest and Amazing

Red, do you really believe the that stuff. Where was that "honest and amazing" work last summer when the Dems had majorities in both houses. They did a lot of work on other stuff--especially making sure we got more social programs, but why not a budget.

And go ahead, throw out the "fake filibuster" excuse. Can't have a filibuster if you don't call for a vote. Harry was a chicken, never made the GOP go through with one.

I hope that one day you realize that both parties are crooked. And that we the people need to stand up and call for things like cuts in spending, term limitations, and less taxes.

Plus, I don't think that anyone wants to tell a woman what to do with her body. I personally just don't want tax payer dollars funding those types of programs. Lets use the money for more important things than planning parenthood. Let the churches and the charities work with planning parenthood.

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#1.3 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 6:16 PM EDT

There is an interesting article by Steven Benen/The Washington Monthly writing about how PP has been funded by the Federal Gov. since 1970, which means that funding has happened under five republican presidents. John Boehner has been one who has supported funding PP over and over and over.

Mr. Benen noted that nothing has changed with the organization and that the only thing that has changed is the radicalization of the Republican Party, which as he wrote:

- seems inclined to shut down the government rather than allow working-class and low-income women from accessing contraception, family planning services, pap smears, cancer screenings, and tests for sexually-transmitted diseases. I guess the question then becomes, if Planned Parenthood funding was good enough for Reagan, and the Republicans who voted for Reagan-era budgets, why is it beyond the pale now?

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I saw many female Senators in the Democratic Party come out today and stress that this was their line in the sand. I am happy to hear that.

This country has become so so cruel towards minorities, the working class and the poor. They have no voices. It is up to the Democrats to take a strong stand and speak on their behalf. Sen. Reid has done that. As have many many Democrats today.

The Republican Party - why aren't they going after the rich corporations? How the hell can they look at themselves in the mirror?

btw, Mr. Benen noted also that both Barry Goldwater and GHW Bush championed PP.

We are not taking care of future generations. I hope everyone realizes that. This country has been overtaken by mean-spirited selfish fake religious monsters. Here's hoping they don't succeed.

We're better than that. Our younger generations deserve better.

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#1.4 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 6:52 PM EDT

Feisty,

This is nothing more than an attempt by extreme ideologues to circumvent women's reproductive rights!

Women have a right to have an abortion, kill all the babies you want, Feisty.

But why are the American people required to borrow money to pay for them when we are broke?

This is not a "womens health issue". Pregnancy is a sign the mom is in good health - everything is working fine.

It's a convenience issue for people who don't want to bothered with carrying a baby and giving it up for adoption. That simple.

Anyone smarter than a 5th grader can see that!

That's actually something that a child, the willfully ignorant or a political bigot would suggest.

Amy,

It is mean spirited to not want to borrow money in order to provide free abortions for everyone inconvenienced by a pregnancy?

  • 1 vote
#1.5 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 7:03 PM EDT

Women have a right to have an abortion, kill all the babies you want, Feisty.

Bob,

I mention drama queens and *poof* here you are! lol

You & I have had this conversation before, I told you then and I'm telling you again, WHEN you're capable of carrying a child you will be allowed a seat at the 'adult table'.

It doesn't matter how many times you repeat the BS about tax payers funding abortion it will NOT magically come TRUE, even if you click you ruby slippers together 3x's...

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#1.6 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 7:17 PM EDT

Hiya bob. Ever hear of the Hyde Amendment?

    #1.7 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 7:19 PM EDT

    Hey Indy,

    Ever hear of left pocket - right pocket?

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    #1.8 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 7:25 PM EDT

    Ha! Cynic.

      #1.9 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 7:26 PM EDT

      This is not a "womens health issue". Pregnancy is a sign the mom is in good health - everything is working fine.

      Only you're working under the assumption that for women, reproductive capacity = "everything."

      It's a convenience issue for people who don't want to bothered with carrying a baby and giving it up for adoption.

      That's actually something that a child, the willfully ignorant, or a self-righteous misogynist who's never had to deal with the physical and emotional realities of carrying a pregnancy would suggest.

        #1.10 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 7:37 PM EDT

        why shut down women clinics? They need to look at all the people that are on medicaid having alot of children the government pays for. I know three people that has had 4 children on medicaid. think about all the women out there that constantly have them and then the goverment not only pays for the birth but then that leads to more money for their goverment insurance and things like food stamps. the womens clinics helps this problem by people that can not afford a child to have an abortion even if it is wrong in alot of peoples eyes this would help goverment. alot of the governments problems in my eyes is the fact that there are alot of people on welfare and food stamps and programs like that, and they are not doing anything but living off of that. This stuff started out to be used as a temporary assistance but it is not anymore it is used lifelong.

          #1.11 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 7:59 PM EDT

          Feisty,

          I mention drama queens and *poof* here you are! lol

          You never mentioned drama queens. Can't even get one thing right, huh?

          You & I have had this conversation before, I told you then and I'm telling you again, WHEN you're capable of carrying a child you will be allowed a seat at the 'adult table'.

          I am not arguing abortion and have even conceeded the point you made. (Even though it is as absurd as saying you don't get an opinion on the war until your capable of "carrying" an M-4; you don't get an opinion on Arizona until you "carry" the ability to say you live there .... I know ....... that's over your head.....)

          But regardless, I do get to sit at the big table - my tax dollars are being used to pay for this stuff. If libs want to be the adults - pay for all the abortions yourself.

          I simply asked:

          But why are the American people required to borrow money to pay for them when we are broke?

          And you can't answer.

          Of course ...... you never have been able to answer, to hold your own ....... still nothing but childish taunts and little pathetic cat wigs, huh?

          Talk about sitting at the children's table your whole life.

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          #1.12 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 8:04 PM EDT

          SHIC

          41% of NYC pregnancies end in abortion. FACT. Look it up.

          Yea, I never had to deal with the physical and emotional realities of carrying a pregnancy, but I don't have to be chef know when fish is spoiled - it doesn't smell right.

          Something about 41% doesn't smell right, something about all the reports that Planned Parenthood not doing breast exams, or mammograms when they say they do doesn't smell right, something about all the abortions they do compared to the ones they don't smells, the articles written by former female directors .......on and on ......Planned Parenthood is the biggest abortion agency in the world.

          Now let me go take a Midol while I have my sympathy pains for you.

          • 1 vote
          #1.13 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 8:28 PM EDT

          But regardless, I do get to sit at the big table - my tax dollars are being used to pay for this stuff. If libs want to be the adults - pay for all the abortions yourself.

          Are those Ruby slippers starting to feel a little snug yet? LMAO!

          Until you & the rest of the willfully IGNORANT can have a factual conversation - well... continue on playing with yourself - cause my little buddy, I have ZERO interest!

          In the meantime, I would suggest you tuck that 'nappie' in nice & tight around your collar!

          PS: There is no doubt in my mind that you manage to intrude on the 'adult' table = the only problem is what to do with that pesky step stool!

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          #1.14 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 8:34 PM EDT

          So..let's see....instead of worrying about our govt. and it not shutting down we should worry about people who don't know how to use birth control? Okay...let's take care of the drug addicts....the welfare feeding lazy arse peeps...NOT!!!! You go Democrats with your amazing liberal "feed the need"....Oh and by the way I will continue to defend my country and all those who do nothing....Just Saying

            #1.15 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 8:58 PM EDT
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            Why not ask the republicans if its unreasonable to shut it down over their pet peeve?

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            Reply#2 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 5:43 PM EDT

            Let the gov. shut down. If the GOP gives in the Tea Party will remember. We are tired of baby killing liberals, minority entitlements, and gay groups like funding the arts. We hate the department of Education that is working hard to make us a multiethnic country. We don't care about these issues. We just want our country back. We will stand with Boehner if he doesn't blink. If he agrees with the leftest, socialists, communist leaning, demolition-crats America will fall. Let them shut the damn government down and keep it shut down until we can return an American to the whitehouse. This time birth certificates first!

              Reply#3 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 6:34 PM EDT

              This obsession with controlling a woman's body shows the tea party folks for who they actually are, the old so-called moral majority with a new name and a new paint job.

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              Reply#4 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 6:44 PM EDT

              The facts go in one ear and out the other with you libs, and nothing in between. I have already seen the comment already, so for those of you on the left that maybe smarter than a 5th grader(all be it not many), here it is again. The liberal majority Senate and Congress was suppose to have this budget finished in October 2010. And why did they not do it? I believe now it was for two reasons. #1. They did not want to present a budget before the November 2010 election. If the American public would have seen their purposed spending, they would have taken a worst shellacking than they did. #2. The Democrats knew that by waiting after the elections,the Republicans would not go for it, then the Democrats would be able to blame the Republicans for the government shut down. And as far as planned parenthood shutting down, so be it, I as a tax paying citizen do not want to pay for the killing of unborn children. It never ceases to amaze me that liberals, will protest 18 year olds volunteering to put their lives on the line, and serve in this Nations military, but its okay to kill children who aren't even one day old yet. If they want to only provide counselling, IOU's or birth control pills, and or condoms fine. But abortions if needed, should be performed at a licenced hospital, and only in the case of rape, incest, or if mothers life is endangered by pregancy, NOT A SECONDARY FORM OF BIRTH CONTROL BECAUSE OF AN OOPS. Keep your nickers up!!!

                Reply#5 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 7:25 PM EDT

                The liberal majority Senate and Congress was sThe liberal majority Senate and Congress was suppose to have this budget finished in October 2010.uppose to have this budget finished in October 2010.

                And what does that have to do with waging WAR on women's rights? You baggers were sent to DC for JOB creation...

                I assume you're familiar with the tidal surge - they were swept in and you will UNDOUBTEDLY be swept out if they continue with this nonsense!

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                #5.1 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 7:32 PM EDT

                Okay Mruseurhead, so you don't want to fund Planned Parenthood. Well, I don't want to fund corporate welfare, military action when weren't attacked, agri programs where we pay folks not to grow crops, subsidizing corporate loopholes that allow billionaires to pay no taxes, and a plethora (I love that word) of other things. I imagine we'll get over it.

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                #5.2 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 7:43 PM EDT
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                @Feisty Redhead, I have never responded to your post mostly because they always collapse your comments. But it has always fascinatedme that the majority of your comments are cut and paste, do you do that because you learned something new on a computer or do you have to re-read comments you are commenting on because you have some sort of memory issue? And cutting non essential spending is the point, and once we get spending in line, and we are not taxing businesses into bankruptcy, the jobs will return. @Indy Lib, your President gave billions of stimulus to, GM,GE, public service workers unions, and a multitude of "green businesses". Ask him to put back into the economy the billions of unspent tarp and stimulus money, start there before you start with the hypocritical liberal mantra. You libs clean up your side of the isle first, before you say our side stinks. And ask Obama, since you people on the left are always claiming how you care more for the poor and elderly, how are these FOLKS suppose to pay for rising food prices and gas prices?

                • 1 vote
                Reply#6 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 8:07 PM EDT

                Yes Mruseurhead, OUR President, Obama, and OUR President, Bush, both gave hundreds of billions of dollars to Wall Street and corporate America. Funny, I don't ever remember being excited about that. Know your opponent before you waste words attacking beliefs they don't possess.

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                #6.1 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 8:18 PM EDT
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                This Group would spend their money better if they simply do Ads on the Republican Women who pushed to the microphone kicking and screaming and being used for cover refused to Support their Republican Men in an effort to Shut Down Planned Parent Hood. The press conference was embrassing and just painful to watch for other women to watch. Republicans "Used These Women" and the Women Let Them"

                Women won't look at this party in any positive light ever again, except those that are "Brain Washed"

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                Reply#7 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 8:09 PM EDT

                When do you leave? Have a nice trip.

                  Reply#8 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 8:09 PM EDT

                  Most liberal women just need to open their mouths and that is the best form of birth control there is, conservative women on the other hand, are intelligent and that is the best aphrodisiac I know. And again you liberals missed the point, the rising price of gas in this country is going to harm who the most? The poor, who may need their car to look for work, and the elderly, on a fixed income still need to drive themselves to doctors appointments. And as fuel prices rise, so does the cost of food, and again the elderly are on a fixed income. So clean up your mess in your own party before you think you have the right to point fingers. Quit for once the hipocricy, you people cannot claim you are the "party that cares", and then turn around and applaud policies your party endorses, knowing full well, they are destructive. Quit pointing at "the rich" on the right and then give, George Soros, and that idiot Michael Moore a pass. Quit calling tea party members radicals, and give radical liberal organizations like Move On, Code Pink, SEIU thugs, and the New Black Panthers a pass. As I said clean up your own side of the isle FIRST, then you won't look like a bunch of HYPOCRITES when you complain about the right.

                    Reply#9 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 8:44 PM EDT

                    How much lying will it take before their noses grow up their backsides?

                    Not much more, I think.

                      Reply#10 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 8:44 PM EDT

                      If my tax dollars are used to pay the utilities for a building used for abortions, then I consider my money being used for abortions. Is it more complicated that that? Only if you want to cloud the issue.

                        Reply#11 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 8:57 PM EDT

                        Apparently many if not most Republicans don't understand economics!

                        They simply don't understand ecomics. It isn't about spending money, it is about what you spend money on! A Hoover damn paid back 1 trillion more in economic growth that it cost to build! That aircraft carrier provide peace and rescue is fully depreciated the minute it was built! Government deficit isn't like a business deficit, all is fully costed the second it is in service and is NEVER reflected on a positive for net worth like a business. A deficit isn't a deficit if you have a positive net worth! So, your water supply is deficit spending, but gave you a netwoth you never count! That's the difference, it isn't about spending it is about on what you spend on! Education, preventive health services, good water, transportation, clean air, energy, all add net worth to us! Networth not counted on the US balance sheets!

                          Reply#12 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 9:55 PM EDT

                          The most important book in the abortion debate EVER is Douglas Arone's The Theorem. If every legislator read this book, abortion would be outlawed tomorrow. He proves the fetus is conscious by showing that in the case of the autistic fetus, it actually learned in the womb. A genius accomplishment. And since you can't tell which fetus will develop autism you must by default save them all, as learning meets every standard for consciousness. God Bless You All!

                            Reply#13 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 10:47 PM EDT

                            But when you are simply printing money, you in fact are devaluing the dollar, and when you borrow money from the Chinese, and the interest alone on the loan, far exceeds the Nations gross national product, you are bankrupting your Nation(plus risking hyper inflation), or just "kicking the can down the road) to future generations. And so it depends on what definition of "cost" you mean. And wasteful spending is still waste. You spend money on things like mass transit(like AMTRAX has always been in the red), and most public transportation never has enough ridership to pay the cost of operation, so who subsidises it, taxpayers. And energy costs depends on the energy it produces, things like windmills and ethanol, are also heavily subsidised, by again tax dollars.The CBO and Ben Bernanke have both said, the deficit spending is unsustainable, so cuts must be made. And education is probably one of the worst of the "black holes" tax dollars are being thrown at. If the Department of Education was shut down, it would save 1 trillion dollars, talk about waste and redundancy(watch the documentary, Waiting for Superman). Government is a business, except it produces nothing, it only takes.

                              Reply#14 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 10:48 PM EDT

                              That's not very clear thinking Mruseurhead. Come on, you are smarter than this. If we don't educate our children, to standards better than we now do by the way, we won't be competitive. We will have to have more free handouts and become an inviable society. I am not talking about subsides, I am talking about using our creative ideas to build companies that are competitive and can supply clean energy. Those ideas are from education and R&D, be it government R&D or private. Transportation the same, not subsidize it but to make it viable with efficientcy and fair pricing of fuel. Frankly, we don't charge for the external damage petroleum combustion creates, it isn't represented in the price or in the taxes added to that price. If it were, public transportation wouldn't need subsidized, it would pay for itself, easily! And your air and water would be cleaner, and we wouldn't need nearly as much control either. I am talking about letting our intelligence form an economy that will be efficientcies to bear, and to increase that pool of intelligence by asking out kids to solve the hard problems now, while educating them. I can go on and on... but what I am saying is good economics, not willy nilly pork barrell, numb nuts subsidizing pet projects. I am talking about reducing in the long run government costs, government in general, but doing it smartly, via economic policy that makes sense.

                                Reply#15 - Fri Apr 8, 2011 11:42 PM EDT

                                I hope the government rips planned parenthood to shreds, (by denying them funding) just like PP rips apart innocent babies every single day. Steal the life from that sick, evil organization by denying them funding.

                                Let's Stop The Most Dangerous Serial Killer

                                PLANNED PARENTHOOD

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