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Subscribe to RSSAfter a Thursday night meeting with House Speaker John Boehner and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, President Obama announced there is still no agreement on a plan to fund the government through the rest of this fiscal year but held out the possibility of a deal by early Friday morning.
Following White House meetings on Wednesday night and again on Thursday afternoon, Reid and Boehner appeared together to speak about the negotiations. But neither spoke after the latest meeting, instead opting to issue a joint statement reading: "We have narrowed the issues, however, we have not yet reached an agreement. We will continue to work through the night to attempt to resolve our remaining differences.”
Obama echoed that sentiment, saying, "We made some additional progress this evening." But he noted the late hour of the negotiations and attempted to put a timetable on the matter. "My hope is I’ll be able to announce to the American people sometime relatively early in the day that a shutdown has been averted," Obama said.
The government would begin to shut down non-essential services beginning at midnight on Friday if congress fails to pass some spending measure.
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And my hope is that we're not about to be sold down the river. I dare the Republicans to shut down the government over funding Planned Parenthood and the EPA.
Now the ideological idiocy comes clearly into view.
WHERE ARE THE JOBS YOU PROMISED US, Speaker Boehner?
Speaker Boehner never promised anyone a job. the tea party was elected to repeal Obamacare, and to cut the crazy spending. cut it to the bone, then cut out some bone too.
The dems were the ones making all the promises 2 years ago. Why didn't they pass a budget last Oct.? They had the majority then and could have done what they wanted, which is spend our country into destruction. The government owes us no handouts. We can't afford to have it run everything. Let's start doing some things for ourselves!
Independants did not vote to follow a Tea Party agenda. The Republicans promised jobs, jobs, jobs... yet not one jobs bill has come from the House. Not one. All they're proposing is slashing jobs and trying to force thier morals down America's throats.
Why do you keep asking the question? Don't you know the answer?
Hey everyone WE ( Dems) had control of the HOUSE and the SEN. since 2006, the guy I voted for in 2008 said he had I believe hundreds of thousands "SHOVEL READY JOBS"I'm A UNION CONSTRUCTION GUY FROM CHICAGO WITH A NEW SHOVEL. Where is my big construction job? Oh , I remember Obama said turns out there really isn't that many shovel ready jobs. Yes I'm a little bitter I feel lied to many many times. So let's not throw ALL the blame on Boehner we have not deliverd either.
The Republicans did promise Jobs. That's why I’m glad there is so much video proving that point and settling that argument. So, please stop that lying.
For the Tea baggers or Teatards, their rallies show how mixed up they are. Many times you hear, “shut it down.”
JOB 1 spends a lot of time thinking up "Clever" names for people she/he doesn't like, not alot of time of thinking though.
You folks just don't get it. Just because you don’t have a job, please don’t assume that others don’t. That statement on your part is just a another tea bagger-teatard response to every challenge you don’t like.
You know, its a shame that I get a vacation when the weather is still bad...I would like to believe this will only last for a week, but then again we can't even agree to disagree so why get my hopes up?
If it stays shut down longer then so be it; this is our governments opportunity to get this right without feeling pressured by deadlines (sarcastically giggling!)
Oh well, at least I can get some school work done during the day instead of staying up till midnight! (BONUS!!)
Want your grandparents to get their social security and medicare? Students to go to school? Want your soldiers to get paid? Want your ports to be secure? Airports to have air traffic controllers? You need to accept dirty water, dirty air, no birth control, no healthcare for poor women and then give up 10% more of your paycheck to the rich. If you are not willing to do that then you are responsible fo shutting down the government. So sais the party of NO!
Ana,
Apparently you havn't been paying attention. During a government shutdown, all of that will continue as before. No problem. You may have to wait to visit a National park though.
This is typical fear mongering. It just doesn't wash.
ANA... I've seen your posts before you aren't that stupid and neither are most of the people on here. It's okay to admit the other side isn't the Devil as you portrait here I do all the time. I don't agree much with the Repubs much but not as bad as the Comedy Central makes them out to be.
BS Ed, all federal workers will be forced to have furlough days, thats means no pay. All the I, me, mine politicians voted to keep their pay during a shut down. So who's really looking out for the citizens the politicians, yeah right. This is about nothing more than party line politics with disregard to the citizens of this country. It has nothing to do with trying to make things right. So really all things government will be delayed!
1. i thought Republicans were pro military, SMH
2. the Pentagon's budget (as a whole) should be exempt while Congress' and its members paychecks should not
3. i thought Democrats were pro economic equality...please refer back to #2
4. why should any military member or their families have any worries regarding their monetary compensation since they're making the biggest sacrifices of all us Americans
5. and yes, i am biased in my comments...understandably so as i am certain all veterans, military members, military families, and citizens of the good 'ole USA should be since we all understand who may end up making the ultimate sacrifice for our country
My husband also works for the military and will have to wait for his paycheck until they get their acts together. I wouldn't mind if congress were also not getting paid. It's just another example of why we can't let the government run everything. They have way too much power, and we gave it to them. Now they are selling us out once again. China is laughing. They know we freak out if we don't get our Obama money!
Thank you both and your husbands for your GREAT sacrifice you all make for us. God Bless You ALL. It's crazy the military wait one sec. for their money. They should get a raise I know where we can get the money, Congress could afford a huge cut in pay. They aren't doing their job well anyway(BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE).
Finally Obama is getting the true message. He doesn't control our government. Those with the "gold" control our government. That would be where all the funding comes from. The House.
Obama is finding out that, yes, he is a lame duck and will continue to be a lame duck for a record setting two more years.
So I say, yes, call the Dem's bluff. Shut this crap down and keep it down.
Time for the GOP to really flex it's muscles.
Time to show the dumb libbies that we aren't going to "compromise" with chickencrap.
Time to be the only responsible adults in the room and take charge of the situation now.
Time to set the 2012 agenda. Massive cuts in spending, followed by really massive cuts in spending till that National debt is just a memory.
Edward
That's a bright plan you have there. You are pushing the dumbing down of America. I know you Tea Baggers- Teatards don’t have a real grasp of reality and knowledge of economics and science.
So, stop trying to drag the country down with your warped ideology.
Edward doesn't have a clue what the Government shut down is all about for the GOP/TP, It's about Planed Parent Hood and NPR and the EPA Edward, the republican/TP have stated it's not about the budget it's about the writers they've added to the budget bill. Get a clue Edward before you post.
Ah, so the riders to the budget bill, including a prohibition against calling toxic coal ash "toxic waste" and enforcing that health insurers have to spend a minimum percentage of PREMIUMS on actually PAYING INSURANCE CLAIMS is "wasteful spending" that needs to be cut and for this our soldiers will miss a paycheck?
Who's dumb?
I can answer that question:
Any democrat who listens to Obama telling him or her that this shutdown is a great idea is not just dumb, but willfully ignorant. Did he not tell them that the sheer force of his personality would save the democratic majorities even if they passed HCR, which was vehemently opposed by the electorate?
So now they are withholding service members' paychecks, in an effort to garner public support, and they believe Obama when he tells them it will redound to their credit?
I have said it before, and will say it again: if Obama told his supporters they could fly, they'd all jump off their roofs.
Good grief! What planet are you on, no joe?
A "great idea"???
Guess you are one who hates that the HCR would force health insurance companies to actually use a minimum percentage of premiums to pay claims. Obama isn't withholding their pay, the Republicans who insist on calling toxic waste by some other name are the ones doing that.
No Jo... House Democrats put forth a CR in the House to keep fundign the troops, but without all the crazy riders. The Republicans voted it down. The Republicans are holding our troops and their families hostage to push their corporatist and twisted moral agenda.
No Offense GRAMMA but you are living in a dream world we can't afford. So if not now when do we stop THE REPUBS AND DEMS from running rough shot all over us?
Also Gramma calling people stupid and being SO Narrow minded to think ONE side is to blame shows me you are NOT WELL INFORMED. You can't get all your info from one side CNN, MSNBC, COM CENTRAL, are giving you ONE SIDE of the story. FOX is doing the same but the other side. Maybe listen, watch and read both side you will clearly see this is not a ONE SIDED issue.
Sometimes even GRAMMAS can learn something.
GrammaKnows I have to go with you on this.
It's not only a budget problem, but instead more like a revenue problem. We need to raise the taxes where they need to be raised, and stop giving corporate welfare. The Clinton era tax rates would work just fine. Also, the Republicans- Tea Baggers need to quit playing these games with people's lives.
If history has taught anything when you raise taxes people spend less because they have less. The rich then have their high paid accountants figure out ways to get around taxes. So it almost results in LESS revenue for the Gov. Not only has it happened here it has happened all over the world. I'm sure you knew this already
Job1, and time4truth,
If history has taught us anything, it would be that sending more money to Washington is just like giving more dope to a bunch of addicts.
Who really believes that if more money is sent to the IRS, that it will dutifully be used to pay down the National debt?? In your dreams maybe. No, that is why it so essential to cut the spending. We are also running out of time. Some spending cuts will affect everyone. Some will only affect a select group. No matter, it must be done and done now. This was the main agenda of the newly elected congressmen and women. They have their marching orders, and are not about to let Obama, or Reid, or even Boehner stand in their way.
The liberal media has so brainwashed the country. Everyone is afraid to be too negative about Obama. Why? Any other president who would dare to do what he has done would be roasted alive in the media. So, gee, what is it about him that makes us all believe he is God? He is arrogant, with his nose in the air, and he believes he can play hardball with the American public. This shutdown is the result of spending and handouts that have been going on for the last few decades by all politicians. How about he makes a CHANGE and stops the spending? Now that would be a legacy!
What makes you think the only solution to lower revenues (lost jobs, lost revenues) is to keep cutting to meet the losses? Let's cut more jobs, have even less revenues, make more cuts, have still less revenues...etc. At what point did "Jobs" become "No Jobs" in trying to get economic recovery?
I can answer that ....When WE(yes me included) elected Obama. Pay attention Higher Debt,Higher Defit,Higher Unemployment,HIgher Fuel Prices,extending unemployment ins.(so people don't actually have to look for jobs) and shoved Obama care down our throats. Now 2 1/2 years later then jobs becomes important because he can blame Boehner for not getting Jobs in a matter of months. C'mon really I do you sleep at nite.
The Democrats on right on this issue and the Tea Baggers are the real problem.
It’s sad that Speaker Boehner is running scared from the Tea Baggers. The Tea Baggers must feel like real big people now, while holding the country as their hostage.
THe TEA PARTY is up for the taking and MUCH of the TEA PARTY is dem and indepentent voters. The TEA PARTY could be had by either party, seems we as dems should stop the the childish name calling and go after the TEA PARTY vote. Not that crazy of an idea.
The way it is done on the state level is by reducing allocation. "Here is all you get, spend it wisely".
Then it is up to the given departments to do the best they can within their budget. If that mandates layoffs, so be it.
GrammaKnows--- These Republicans gleefully think a shutdown will be good for the Tea party. Are they clueless or what?
That's how the Tea Party has managed to get this far...it's a magnet for empty-headed shouting. Ever scan through the online pics of the picket signs?
Yes you are such "responsible adults". It takes a real big man to cut programs that hurt those who can't defend themselves. You cons have the mental & emotional capacity of jr high bullies. This is not democracy, this is a coup. I used to think that I am not prejudice, now I find out that I can't stand ignorant white people.
Just so you know The United States has NEVER been a democracy. By the way when you call people Ignorant White People ... nevermind you wouldn't understand. It is a shame you would bring up the race card when you can't think of an intelligent response. I don't think you whites or African Americans are are ignorant .
Jimmy,
The real ignorant "white people" are those with a "D" after their name. They are the ignorant white trash that we will be voting out of office in 2012. Soon, it will be considered an insult to be called a Democrat. Kind of like being called an idiot.
Both parties are full of idiots, ignorants, uneducated and the under-educated. The difference is that the dullards in the RE-peat-the-lie-to-the-PUBLIC-an party actually believe that they will be rewarded for backing the "winning" side, while the dimwits in the Democratic party think their leaders are trying to level the playing field and strengthen the middle class. We're all being good-cop bad-copped by the two party "system".
This is a partial list of the 60 "policy Riders" that the GOP has attached to the budget bill, which the Democrats are opposing! It's proof that the GOP is playing a massive game of political intrigue with this crisis! It also shows what they intend to do if they ever returned to power!
http://www.ombwatch.org/files/budget/OMB_Watch-HR1_Policy_Riders.pdf
Strange that the list is published by a lil ole American like me instead of the media (shame on MSMBC) , whose job it is to inform the American people!!
I don't mind the Repubs going after wasteful spending some of the stuff we are paying for IS F"N Crazy!I agree with not funding Planned Parenthood that is a family issue it is not a problem for everyone. We are spending $20 mil for Sesame Street to be aired in Pakistan. Why are we paying for NPR? There is many places to get a Leftist point of view. Etc.... We have seen it all before I wont list them all you know in your heart what they are.
I see your point time 4lies. Lets make a big deal over the 20 million for sesame street, but forget about the 400 billion tax cut for the top 2%. If you want to cut the deficit lets get real about cutting the deficit and stop using the deficit to get your social programs cut. We the American people know what the GOP/TP are trying to do so be honest about it and lets move on.
Actually the size of the cuts don't matter as long as we all join together and keep cutting everything. Nothing is sacred. Cut to the bone. Then start on the bone too.
In my 71 years of life, 11 Presidents have held office. Only one has produced a budget that resulted in a surplus. I will bet that at least 30% of the electorate cannot name this President. All of the rest have presided over deficit spending. The first of my life, FDR, had a reasonable reason. WWII was raging, and we needed the money. The dollars spent then, when compared to the worth of those dollars in the time period that each president presided in, will show that four Presidents added more to the deficit during their terms in office than the others. From least to most, It was LBJ, Bush (George W), Obama, then Reagan.
LBJ put in Food stamps, Medicaire to add to the deficit. Bush lowered revenue, started two wars, (one unnecessarially in my opinion) and allowed no-bid contracts to proliferate. Obama inherited his mistakes, and a deep recession. Reagan lowered taxes, decreasing revenue.
Bill Clinton raised taxes with a REPUBLICAN Congress, and got a surplus. The same Congress shut down the Government and later paid the heavy price for doing so.
Today, Republicans are going to try it again. Proves one old adage. A fool is one who looks at past failures, tries the same tactics, and expects a different result.
I have found that people who use terms like "liberal" and "Right-Wing zealots" are biased in their thoughts, therefore incapable of open-mind rhetoric. They use these terms as if they were epithets or curse words.
Richard Nixon was a great President (his criminal offenses nonwithstanding). He was a moderate. LBJ knew where all the scandals were in Congresspersons lives, and he used blackmail to get his things done. (By the way, if he were President today, there wouldn't be a problem. The top tax rate would be 40 %, and Corporations would pay taxes like we do)
But, I digress. Compromise is not a dirty word. Eaxh side should give 50 %. No more.
Wasn't it Ronald Reagan who outspent the Soviets on defense?? Wasn't it Ronald Reagan who bluffed the Soviet Premier with our deploying starwars hardware that didn't even exist yet (and still doesn't)??
In short, wasn't it Ronald Reagan who finally put an end to that horrible cold war that we grew up with, who called the Soviet Union what they really were....That Evil Empire", and fostered the collapse of the communists in Europe, and the dismantling of the Berlin wall?? That was worth all the deficit spending that he did and more. The defense savings have more than offset what he spent back then.
That was a real leader. Can you see Obama telling anyone to "tear down this wall"?? LOL
Edward. Russia still has Nuclear weapons. The Soviets didn't attempt to keep up with us, Gorby wasn't willing to waste the money. Communism is an economic system which is always destined to fail, remember?
When the Russians decide that life is not worth living, they can destroy the world for themselves and us. Who then is the winner?
But Paul,
The Soviet Union no longer exists. And before Gorbachev, the Soviet Union did try to keep up with us for decades. Their people were always going without because every ruble went to the Military. Crazy arms race. We develop a missle firing submarine, they have to develop a missile firing submarine. we develop a new fighter plane, they come out with an even better fighter plane. we develop attack helicopters, they come out with their version of the attack helicopter. And so on...and so on. For decades.
Reagan raised and called and Gorby folded. Once he folded, the whole house of cards collapsed.
They weren't playing poker. You ignore the fact that Raygun didn't disarm the Soviets or the Russians, they still can kill themselves and us. Raygun set this country on a course to bankruptcy; Gorby gave up on a race that wasn't possible for anyone to win, and his homeland is no worse for it.
No Paul, it wasn't poker. It was called the Cold War. Went on and on since the end of WWII. President Reagan didn't disarm the Soviet Union, what President Reagan did was raise the stakes. The Soviet Union could not keep up with our defense spending and still maintain their "Empire". To top it off, President Reagan threatened to deploy our shiny new "star wars" anti-missile shield immediately. (Which didn't even exist)
This is called a bluff, and it worked wonderfully. Thank you President Reagan.
Premier Gorbachev saw the futility in trying to keep on the Soviet Union's present course, and he finally called it quits. Once Freedom reared it's head, there was no holding it back.
Now, I'm not crediting President Reagan with singlehandedly ending the cold war. We all know the Soviet system had some dire weaknesses, but the actions of President Reagan were very instrumental in bringing the Soviet Union and the cold war to an end. The money we saved from that development far, far outweighs the increase in defense spending during President Reagan's terms in office. This savings was referred to, at the time, as the "peace initiative"
Remember any of this Paul??? This is our history.
Ed...........the Cold War was an economic scam on the taxpayer. We spent billions of dollars on a "STAR WARS" weapon system which you admit didn't and doesn't exist. Communism was always going to fail, remember? Gorby knew he could kill the world whether we had Star Wars or not........no point in trying to match it or defeat it. Your bluff and poker metaphor is inaccurate.
By the way............the savings from the "end" of the cold war was called the "Peace Dividend". Try to get history right, instead of writing your revisionist version of it.
We need to demand that members of Congress, especially clowns like Cantor and Ryan, pay their own health care. If as they say, we are broke, they make 174,000 dollars a year, they should be able to do that. Bet you or I could. This would help us reduce the Federal budget, not only now but after they leave the government, they get to keep their health care and we still get to pay for it. I agree that we need to cut spending, but don't touch medicare until you pay for your own health care, retirement , drop the 5% match of your 401k, give up the 230.00 per month we pay for their parking fees, and hell yes, give up the bottled water we pay for. Start with "the man in the mirror". Bachman could also give up her farm subsidies, 250,000.00 she has received in the last 5 years. We have to reform Congress before we let them try and reform us.
Sorry Lucky,
There isn't time for theatrics like that. We need to cut hundreds of billions of dollars now and every year hereafter for the forseeable future. Maybe we need a non-partisan spending czar who is untouchable and who can dictate what gets cut and by how much. His decisions to be final and irreversable. That would take all the politics out of it.
Lucky---- ALL MEMBERS of congress should get no pension along with their term limits. Not just the Repubs! I can't imagine you are so mindless to think dems are all Holy! This is a GREEDY GOV. ISSUE not a party issue.24/7 news cycles have created 24/7 campaign cycles that leaves 0 actual work cycles. We are being duped by our own parties quit blaming the other party blame your own party. They have us so distracted by blaming the otherside we didn't notice our own guys quit doing their jobs.
If all the pay and benefits of all of congress and the president were taken away, it wouldn't matter at all. Not even a blip on the radar screen, sorry.
Never fails to amaze me. The problem is in trillions of dollars. And some folks talk about pennies like it really matters.