A Muslim named pres that still hasn’t proven his citizenship… I would think that would be enough to raise a red flag… But no, he made it in anyway… even though he inherited thee economy; he still hasn’t done anything to fix anything… He still siphons of money for things that aren’t readily known… I think that the government as a whole is corrupt and only concerned with their well being and bank accounts. They are pretty much set for life, we the people are the ones screwed. Until someone is in office who isn’t concerned with a messily 400,000 annual income and free medical for life, I really don’t think that the people of the United States will see any “CHANGE”…

"that still hasn’t proven his citizenship" - give it up already. This one ludicrous statement alone makes all the rest of your statement worthless.

And he outsource's the wives. None are Americans.

"And he outsource's the wives. None are Americans." actually Trump is an anchor-groom. By marrying him and his silly wig, his wives gained citizenship. Like mail order brides.

"Until someone is in office who isn’t concerned with a messily 400,000 annual income and free medical for life"

I believe the word you wanted was measly but obviously your education didn't allow you the correct word.

Why would Obama (already a millionaire before he entered office) be concerned about the income for the position or medical care?

"A Muslim named pres that still hasn’t proven his citizenship"

WOW that has to take the cake for the most unintelligent statement I have ever heard. Just because his name sounds funny you call it muslim. A persons name rarely has anything to do with the religion he follows and if he hadn't proven his citizenship he wouldn't be president right now.

Strikingly, Trump -- who has received a considerable amount of attention for incorrectly stating that President Obama wasn't born in the U.S.

Wow.. no wonder main stream media ratings continue to decline.

1) trump said in fact he DID think Obama was born here, but didn't understand why he has not released his full birth certificate and suggested Obama might be hiding something on his birth certificate.

So MSNBC is in fact LYING here.

2) Ron Paul was not on the survey, despite the fact that he will likely garner MUCH grass roots support, more than half of the candidates listed in this poll easily.

So MSNBC is in fact a joke.

Patrick, when and how did he prove his citizenship?

The Tea Party favorites deal in Rhetoric Not Reality. Birthers, racists, bombastic air heads who think HR1 should be the law of the land by another house resolution, weeping tanning bed addicts that fear for their position will not present a serious threat to Obama in 2012. Besides, don't they also believe the the Maya, Nostrodamus, The Bible and No One Left Behind series all predict the end of the world December 21. 2012 anyway.

BHamilton22- Bush Jr did not need the money nor did Sr.- yet all we got was more debt. As for Obama's name- it is Middle -Eastern, but that is like saying Patrick, Peter of John are Catholic names.

I agree with you that they are all corrupt or at least inept, but their biggest problem is they are lawyers trying to deal with budgetary issues! How about putting an economist, accountant or even a math teacher in Congress for a change? Writing a law id one thing,. Knowing finance is another.

Ron Paul for president 2012!

dabble - so you are willing to accept the Hawaian governors - we can't find it, but there is a note that says it exists?

Oh, that's right you accept a form of birth certificate that is given to all US citizens whether born in the US in a Hospital in the US, any where in the US, or abroad as "natural born"

Explain that to the WW II veteran who was born of two American in Vancouver, BC. The INS called him an illegal alien because his parents never filed the proper papers in the US to denounce his Canadian Citizenship and accept the US Citizenship. He's fighting deportation right now.

McCain's parents may not have filed the paperwork either - All I saw produced was his Panama Birth Certificate - not one here in the USA.

The Politicians need to follow the law as we must - or toss em out! Because we don't take matters seriously enough, they don't either - and that is why we are so deeply in debt!

President Obama's birth certificate is posted on line. He has a passport. To get one you need what? A BIRTH CERTIFICATE. His birth was announced when he was born in the local paper. Turn off Fox "news" so you can join the real world.

Well said Amy!!!!

Of course we can explain plenty of "explanations" from bitter tea pottyers.

and the appearance of the perpetually wrong birther.

hahahahahahaha

This is the best the republicans can come up with? (I hope) I'm sure Trump the millionaire will be looking out for the middle class. The tea party likes him because he questions Obama birthplace, is that really there concern? Sad

not only his birth, but a ss# issused in conn. thats all over the web

I read that the Liberals are becoming desperate. Obama had ruined the country financally and morally. When they reach the end of there rope we will know it when they play the race card. It worked for OJ so it should work for him

newdayDAWNING10------your name is the prominent occult slogan. and your propaganda is the prominent liberal pay no attention to the man behind the teleprompter. you are a paid propagandist am i wrong?

Who is Barry Soretto and how did he become Barack Obama?

What is an old fat guy and how did he get that way?

Guess he sat on his lard ass and watched too much Fox TV while eating pop tarts out of the box.

Yes, of course Joe. I made my millions posting for liberals. Jealous much?

newdayDAWNING10

For a propagandist, you are very well informed and intelligent. With all your millions, I am sure you appreciate those tax cuts.

Joe just wish he was you.

Thanks, Fletch! Don't you wonder what it is that drives people like Joe?

I'm so sick n tired of Donald Trump and his bull crap about the presidents birth certificate..I'm starting to wonder is it a race thing or what..OK the president was born in Hawaii so what who cares, its part of the USA..Would Donald be doing all of this if there was a white president elected..He also says that he would run the country much better than Obama well since Obama was left a terrible mess to clean up with Bush and his stupidness..Ive never understood why people regardless of race be little someone because they think this person is doing such a bad job..Bush put the country in the debt that Obama has been trying his best to help us get out of..No one truly knows what really is going on in the White House, Congress or etc until they have actually become president..And have had their backs against the wall trying very hard to help our country come out on top..We've only had a few presidents that have looked out for our best interest and not just their own..Bush sent all the soldiers over seas by the boat load one after another supposedly to help end the war but at the end of his term he sent close to 20 thousand troops over there and never brought any home..At least Obama had brought several thousand of our troops home and kept them home..Donald Trump you need to shut your big *** mouth because you would know what to do if you were in the presidents position..You didn't talk about Bush and his rottenness and how he ruined the world the money or all the jobs lost..Instead of you talk-in stuff on the president sit down and write him, congress, the senate and any other people that really rule the world a long letter..Telling all of them what you would do things different if you were in office right now..I'm tired of the world and all its racism and no one can tell me different because I see it so much its ridiculous..Instead of talking about people and what you think they are doing wrong ask to see what you could do to help them make things better..Who care about a birth certificate, I dont..Think about all the homeless in the world, hunger, abused children, women, men, help your community become a better place and work together as a nation, world or etc to make things better for all not just the rich..Donald Trump you're only thinking about how much more money you can make to keep yourself on top of being the richest man in the world..Picture that, you actually thinking about helping other people in time of need..

Am I the only one who finds the thought of Donald Trump being president extremely weird?

Will Trump actually run, or is it a scam to make money?

Naw, probably not money exclusively... Trump will do anything for one more moment in front of a camera and hearing his own voice. He's being used, bad hair implants and all, to make other contenders ultimately look better.

Easydoesit: What implants? I thought it was a sweep-over? Anyone who would seriously consider Donald Trump other than a celebrity needs to have their heads examined. And why is the news media giving him so much attention? That's what I want to know. I don't think they really know what their jobs are....to report news, not the shiny bright things out there. Serious news.

Beverly in Chicago

Do you know how many bankruptcies Trump has had?

Bev, i still want to know who he was able to Pay off the construction loans on his trump tower downtown when he was in default on 300 million in loans at a time when he has not sold a unit in 3 years.

Also trump made his fortune by redeveloping land, in which he evicted hundreds of poor families, his casinos in jersey went broke a few times as well.

but he is not dumb, to tell tea party folks that President obama was not born here got him alot of attention but will back fire like it has for over 2 years. he is playing with Dumb peoples racist thinking.

And he came out of the bankruptcies. How close to bankruptcy do you thing the USA is?

Trumps insane rant about Obama not being born here and not an American citizen (when every body knows that it is not true) shows us that this entertainer is not fit for ANY government office. What it shows us is that the man will utter half truths and lies just to get publicity And after Bush and his WMD haven't we had enough of rich lie rs in the White House!

Obama has the authority as "President" to allow Hawaii to show the world his certified birth certificate and put this issue to rest. Has he done it? NO. Thus you still have those with pitchforks and baseball bats crying for him to prove his birthplace! Obama has the power to set the record straight. Still scratchin' my head why he doesn't. Instead he has attorney's wasting taxpayer's money fighting this issue in court.

Not committing to any of the potential gop candidates yet but Trump would be a breathe of fresh air, not just hot air like some and what is the horror about 'how many times has he gone bankrupt?' I would say 'wow, BK 3 times and look at what he is worth now! First you prob wont go BK if you are afraid to go for it and to come back as he has tells me he is no dummy, flamboyant maybe but smart.

Jesus, just what we need, the 2012 presidential bid turned into a national episode of "Celebrity Apprentice"! No wonder the world is laughing their asses off...................

First, why are we seriously debating about whether Trump is going to run for office? This is a joke, Trump's a joke, and arguing whether Obama has a legit birth certificate is a joke. The fact that people who oppose Obama pull out this kind of bs only shows that they have nothing real to argue about it. These people are just part of the big joke that is a small part of the American public.

Obama may be waiting until McCain proved he was born in America, which he was not. Or perhaps he's waiting for YOU to prove where YOU were born.

This is all a ploy to make the 6th generation Mormon look better.

Wilted Rose has a point - Trump's scrapes with bankruptcy, give him an edge on how to get out of one!

The Republicans only need a wealthy puppet, so they can continue cutting taxes for the wealthy, over-spend on defense, and deregulate Casino Wall Street. Trump would become their perfect string puppet.

Obama 2012!

Keep voting Democratic.

One seriously has to wonder about the mentality of anyone who believes in a failure like Trump.

Certain right wingers are have not a shred of common sense when it comes to candidates and their position.

If it gets to point where they want to promote Trump, I say bring back Mccain.

The biggest mistake of my voting life was when I placed my vote for Obama. When Obama needs to make a decision regarding business, he has to call someone. If Trump was a Democrat, he would be standing beside our President in place of the head of GE.

YEa I am so glad that the interracial couple in 1961 had the extreme foresight to realize that their son was going to run for President in 2008 so they would need to fake an announcement in the paper to show he was born in Hawaii! Clairvoyants no doubt to have known that then.

Birthers..ugh!

Wow. Just wow. Anyone who thinks Trump's brushes with bankruptcy might actually be very useful has got to get help.

Think about it - if this was a Democratic candidate wannabe, you guys would be CRUCIFYING him!

Hypocrites all of you!

Ditto to the multiple marriages and affairs! Hypocrites!

Dang!

Ah, yes our President, who has had little experience politically, economically, has done SUCH a great job. All of his "change" has really changed the country, for the worse! People are afraid to spend money, he lives in lala land thinking wind is going to "fuel" our country. But yes, his government car is exempt from his new fuel economy idea for government. He still has our money to fund all his vacations and trips, and is making millions off his book sales thanks to all you stupid Democrats. You are all a bunch of whinners!!! And always have your hand out for someone elses money. Trump on the other hand has earned his money. Cry away!

Of course you have a very authentic piece of paper called a birth certificate that your mother gave you and that is all you use, right...I am 70 years old and I haven't seen my authentic birth certificate since I was a very young child. I have a certificate of live birth from LA and it has been used for driver's license, passport and social security among many other documents. No one has ever questioned it. Barack Obama has that very same certificate of live birth and that has been shown over and over. When will you guys grow and stop being so foolish!! Have you seen Donald Trump's original authentic birth certificate or maybe George Bush and Sarah Palin's original authentic birth certificate. I doubt that anyone even asked for them to show their birth certificate. Will the merciful!! May the Lord have mercy on your soul!!

Really, you can see his birth certificate on the internet. Or haven't you looked. Plus I don't know how many times the Hawaiian papers have shown the articles about his birth. You can't fake the orginal articles. He was born in Hawaii and everyone needs to get over it. Dont you really think that if there were an ounce of truth to it, that Hillary Clinton would have found out and used it in her campaign against him. Now think about it, she really wanted to be President, if she thought for one second that he wasn't the real deal she would have made sure it was out there. So everyone needs to back off the birth certificate issue.

The illegal aliens can get birth certificates printed out too. I've seen them being sold for hundreds of dollars in the streets of Downtown Los Angeles! Just because it's on the internet doesn't mean it's real. I don't think it's really a matter of questioning Obama's birthplace anyways since it's all water under the bridge. Look, as a matter of fact, we here in California have Austrian born A. Schwartznegger, so that tells you how much our government cares about the natural born citizenship of a member of our government.

have a certificate of live birth from LA and it has been used for driver's license, passport and social security among many other documents. No one has ever questioned it. Barack Obama has that very same certificate of live birth and that has been shown over and over. When will you guys grow and stop being so foolish!!

The problem is, there is NO official knowledge of what hospital he was born at and who the attending physician was... I know this about myself... do you know this about you?

I believe he probably was born here... but it IS a fact that Obama has HID much of his past. The question is why? If there are people unsure about something and you are president, why not release it?> There is no good answer.

If there is a full birth certificate, why not release it... why stick to a certificate of live birth, which is NOT the same as it does NOT list hospital of birth or attending physician like a birth certificate does.

It doesn't matter WHAT color Obama is... if he was white, and he had an international parent and there was a huge cloud over parts of his past, I suspect the same would be demanded.

So again, if it exists, which I beleive it does, than there is no reason to hide it, unless there is something on there you don't want people to see.

"If there is a full birth certificate, why not release it... why stick to a certificate of live birth, which is NOT the same as it does NOT list hospital of birth or attending physician like a birth certificate does."

Illogical argument since a COLB is an official document and can be used to apply for anything (license, military, social security) otherwise there was a vast conspiracy 42 years ago for my white butt to become an American citizen even though I was conceived in Japan by a navy officer and a teacher. Also my COLB does state the hospital of birth.

BTW Hawaii state law does not allow for the release of an actual birth certificate. District court and federal court have all dismissed claims that it is not valid.

Sore loser you surely must be.

Let me offer some helpful research into the matter.

From: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

"Among the most frequent objections we saw on forums, blogs and e-mails are:

•The birth certificate doesn't have a raised seal.
•It isn't signed.
•No creases from folding are evident in the scanned version.
•In the zoomed-in view, there's a strange halo around the letters.
•The certificate number is blacked out.
•The date bleeding through from the back seems to say "2007," but the document wasn't released until 2008.
•The document is a "certification of birth," not a "certificate of birth.

"Recently FactCheck representatives got a chance to spend some time with the birth certificate, and we can attest to the fact that it is real and three-dimensional and resides at the Obama headquarters in Chicago. We can assure readers that the certificate does bear a raised seal, and that it's stamped on the back by Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka (who uses a signature stamp rather than signing individual birth certificates). We even brought home a few photographs.

"You can click on the photos to get full-size versions, which haven't been edited in any way, except that some have been rotated 90 degrees for viewing purposes.
"The certificate has all the elements the State Department requires for proving citizenship to obtain a U.S. passport: "your full name, the full name of your parent(s), date and place of birth, sex, date the birth record was filed, and the seal or other certification of the official custodian of such records." The names, date and place of birth, and filing date are all evident on the scanned version, and you can see the seal above.
Then they show the pretty pictures, and go on to say:
"The document is a "certification of birth," also known as a short-form birth certificate. The long form is drawn up by the hospital and includes additional information such as birth weight and parents' hometowns. The short form is printed by the state and draws from a database with fewer details. The Hawaii Department of Health's birth record request form does not give the option to request a photocopy of your long-form birth certificate, but their short form has enough information to be acceptable to the State Department."

And, you're welcome!

Illogical argument since a COLB is an official document and can be used to apply for anything (license, military, social security) otherwise there was a vast conspiracy 42 years ago for my white butt to become an American citizen even though I was conceived in Japan by a navy officer and a teacher. Also my COLB does state the hospital of birth.

You don't get it. Of course a COLB is official and legal. No one is arguing this. I am questioning why we don't know what hospital and what doctor was part of Obama's birth in America.... and Obama is ALLOWED to release his birth certificate if he chose to... Obama's COLB does not list hospital or attending physician and he has ignored questions to answer this.... why?

Again, I think Obama was probably born here.. but I don't understand not answering these simple questions and putting this matter to rest UNLESS he has SOMETHING to hide.

And, you're welcome!

Thanks for answering a bunch of claims no one here made.

Point is, we still don't know what hospital Obama was born in and what doctor delivered him....

Mr. Rogers, I don't know who the attending physician was at my birth, and at my age I'm sure he's long since dead. Just like Obama, I wasn't famous at birth, so there's no reason to expect that at this point, anyone other than my parents would know, and they're about as capable as Obama's parents are at this point to comment.

I can't say with authority that Obama was born at Kapi'olani Medical Center, but I have more reason to believe that than a vague guess at the hospital where I was born.

If the tea party can back a candidate for no other apparent reason than his embracing of this birther nonsense, there is no reason to think any other item on their agenda has merit.

Very true, 21st Century Patriot-1831871.

Me: Scripps Hospital, La Jolla, CA. Couldn't name the physician if my life depended on it.
I could, however, provide a copy of the birth announcement in the local paper since my mom and dad saved it.

The same could be said for President Obama, to wit, further from the FactCheck link above:

"We think our colleagues at PolitiFact.com, who also dug into some of these loopy theories put it pretty well: "It is possible that Obama conspired his way to the precipice of the world's biggest job, involving a vast network of people and government agencies over decades of lies. Anything's possible. But step back and look at the overwhelming evidence to the contrary and your sense of what's reasonable has to take over."
In fact, the conspiracy would need to be even deeper than our colleagues realized. In late July, a researcher looking to dig up dirt on Obama instead found a birth announcement that had been published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Sunday, Aug. 13, 1961:"

(Photo image of Obama's birth announcement seen here)

"The announcement was posted by a pro-Hillary Clinton blogger who grudgingly concluded that Obama "likely" was born Aug. 4, 1961 in Honolulu.
Of course, it's distantly possible that Obama's grandparents may have planted the announcement just in case their grandson needed to prove his U.S. citizenship in order to run for president someday. We suggest that those who choose to go down that path should first equip themselves with a high-quality tinfoil hat. The evidence is clear: Barack Obama was born in the U.S.A."

That last bit about the tinfoil hats are the opinions of the authors. But I don't think they're too far off the mark in their opinion; it's just a little derogatory, is all.

Please keep focusing on where the president was born you make it so much easier for him to whip the pants off any candidate running since he will be running on the issues. Right wing strategy. Demonize. Use fear. "he's gonna take away your guns". He's gonna distribute your wealth. The world is changing get use to it. You've had your time. Ain't no fun when the rabbit got the gun"

Gee I don't know what doctor delivered me either, and my birthday is listed as three different dates by the government (11th 14th & 15th) Supposedly the reason is I was born just about Midnight on the 14th and things were much sloppier back in 1961 in the South.

Of course my twin died at birth so that may also contribute.

Or ...is it all a lie? I mean I have no proof of this, I could have been born on the 11th and adopted on the 14th and taken home on the 15th....uh oH NOOOO I am so confused, unsure...Maybe I was abducted! YEa thats it...to replace my supposed twin....Hmmmm....

But I do look a lot like my older brother, bu that could be plastic surgery....

Oh the contoversy of my birth

Do I dare run for President?

Woe is me

Bigfoot did it

Elvis is alive

Grassy Knoll

WTC Inside Job

UH you Birthers do know I am ridiculing you...don't you.

(Felt the need to make sure since you are all so dense)

Of course if Obama was 100% Caucasian instead of only 1/2 Caucasian you would not even suggest this crap

Does anyone know what doctor delivered Bush or what hospital he was born in? Why wasn't that important? How about Clinton. Have you checked with his doctor to make certain he was the deliverer? What hospital was he born in? How about Boehner? Do you know where he was born, what hospital and who his doctor was? How about Huckabee, Trump, McCain, Sara Palin, Michelle Bachmann. Who were there doctors? Shouldn't they have to prove all that to be running for President or sitting in Congress? You people are idiots!

lol, good one.

Handicapped Person? That's not a nice way to refer to Hillary.

The same way for some of you that it isn't a big deal for Obama to have been a coke head while in college.

Uh, prove it.

The biggest coke head to ever live in the White House was GWB. Everyone knows that --- and an alcoholic to boot (by his own admission).

Not to mention being a total moron.

kat,

While you can recover from being an alcoholic, you can't recover from being an idiot, which you have shown in your post...

JK, when a teawagger calls me an idiot, I take it as a compliment.

First off, not a Tea Party member...secondly, I love how you bash people with no proof, and yet you think you are superior. Cite any proof that GWB was a "coke head"... Of course that would require you to think, which I seriously doubt you have that capacity...

And this comes from one of the "enlightened" Obama zombies...

JK, that's right, I'm a zombie... and I'd eat your brains... if you had any.

WOW...I'm debating a person in elementary school...Today is really my lucky day! Say...it's 9pm, time to do your homework, brush your teeth and climb into bed with your Barbie doll...

"WOW...I'm debating a person in elementary school...Today is really my lucky day! Say...it's 9pm, time to do your homework, brush your teeth and climb into bed with your Barbie doll..."

While you climb into bed with Trump and his combover....

ROFL

I'm sure everyone else is laughing with your high school mentality comments... It goes to show your level of civility and intelligence...

I agree John-2813435. Trump has had a lot of bankrupcies but he has recovered form them and thats what we need to do, recover from this recession. I don't think that anyone's personal life dictates how they will work. Trump's business experience could be just what this country needs.

He may have "recovered" but how do you think those he shorted in pay feel about his success? The country can't just back away from it's responsibility.

KA - he recovered because the government bailed him out!

Because this is a popularity contest. People don't vote for the best candidate. They just vote for the most popular and the one that "tickles" their ears with their speeches!

Loudmouth....and what are you doing here? Looks like you're in a popularity contest and you're tickling everyones ears with your pitiful attempts at cynical wit....pot....meet kettle.

I'm not running for President. No need for me to be "popular." : )

I'm still hoping for a Trump/Palin ticket. That is a match made in bizarro world heaven.

Trump/Palin 2012 Because the comedy writers need the work! :-) (It makes me smile!)

By the way, have you noticed that the Palin supporters have gone under a rock? I guess she was just too much an embarrassment to continue supporting.....moving on to Trump! And when have we last heard about Rush? I'll bet he's having a conniption....no one talking about him lately.

Well Sarah lost her TV show. Glen Beck is losing his TV show. Could this be the start of something big?

Like maybe America finally waking up and coming to the realization they have been sold a bill of goods by the not-so-conservative GOP?

Naaah. It's just a coincidence.

I agree with you and I know plenty tea party people that want Ron Paul. I'm not surprised he was excluded from this poll. He makes sense and scares the heck out of both sides because he would end business as usual in Washington. He is the candidate that could lead us back to prosperity. People on both sides should take the time to read Ron Paul's book "The Revolution" before making a decision about who they want to support.

They identify themselves as members of the Tea Party. Even though there is no political party with that name.

All polling is given a +/- rating. Nothing new here.

But the debates would get better ratings than the Super Bowl. I know I'd watch, just to see Trump try to bully Ventura, and then comes the flying elbow...

You have GOT to be effing kidding, me!!

hamilton -

your post is just as stupid the second time around. stop repeat posting and go read a book.

You are making a huge assumption that hamilton can read.

Well, he did type out that diatribe.

Bhamilton,

Seriously???!!! This muslim/birther nonsense is nothing but hate. It keeps the narrative going that "he is different, he's not like us."

HE IS OUR PRESIDENT, SO DEAL WITH IT!!!

Hopefully, he will win a second term because the so-called Republican presidential hopefuls are scary! And as for Ron Paul, he wants to eliminate the Department of Education. I mean, seriously???!! If these people Republcans/Tea Partiers want to go back in time, please do so somewhere else,

Roseone,

Obviosly you don't scare easily if you want that freak in a suit for another term.

Obviosly you don't scare easily if you want that freak in a suit for another term.

Why is he a freak now?

Roger Clemens has a better chance of becoming the first President that took steroids!

Foghorn Leghorn?