First Thoughts: He's in

In email and video to supporters, Obama announces his re-election bid… NBC’s 2012 battleground map… Why Obama is in right now: It’s all about raising the money. So why isn’t Romney in yet?... Is Paul Ryan’s budget plan -- which revamps Medicaid and Medicare -- courage or political suicide?... Ryan’s plan vs. Obama’s health-care plan… Two other points about the plan: It has no bipartisan cover, and it plays fire with seniors… And don’t forget about Afghanistan.

From NBC's Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, Domenico Montanaro, and Ali Weinberg
*** He’s in: In an email and video to supporters, President Obama announced that he’s filing his paperwork with the Federal Election Commission today to launch his re-election campaign. Obama’s message harks back to 2008. “We're doing this now because the politics we believe in does not start with expensive TV ads or extravaganzas, but with you -- with people organizing block-by-block, talking to neighbors, co-workers, and friends. And that kind of campaign takes time to build,” Obama says in his email. “So even though I'm focused on the job you elected me to do, and the race may not reach full speed for a year or more, the work of laying the foundation for our campaign must start today.” The video, which tells you everything you need to know the Obama campaign is focused on (there’s a white man from North Carolina, a Latina from Nevada, a white woman from Colorado, and a young student from New York) contains this at the end: “It begins with us.” By the way, the only footage of Obama in the video is from the 2008 campaign; nothing from him as president.

*** Our 2012 battleground map: With Obama announcing his re-election today, here is our revised NBC Political Unit Battleground map for the 2012 election. It shows Democrats with 232 electoral votes either in the solid, likely, or lean column, and it has Republicans with 191 electoral votes. There are 115 electoral votes in the Toss-up column. A few states to keep an eye on THIS year when it comes to the Obama campaign: AZ, GA, and TX. All three are long shots, but all three showed significant population gains for minorities in the last 10 years. And the campaign is going to attempt to at least experiment with organizing in these three states to see if any of them are worth truly battling for when the calendar turns from 2011 to 2012.

Solid Dem: DC, DE, HI, MD, MA, NY, RI, VT (67 electoral votes)
Likely Dem: CA, CT, IL, ME, WA, OR (105)
Lean Dem: MI, MN, NJ, PA (60)
Toss-up: CO, FL, IA, NV, NH, NM, NC, OH, VA, WI (115)
Lean GOP: AZ, GA, MO, MT, NE (one EV) (41)
Likely GOP: AL, AR, IN, LA, MS, NE (four EVs), ND, SC, SD, TX (97)
Solid GOP: AK, ID, KS, KY, OK, TN, UT, WV, WY (53)

*** It’s all about the money: It isn’t surprising that Obama announced his re-election bid now. (George W. Bush filed for reelection May 16, 2003, and Bill Clinton filed April 14, 1995). But what is surprising is that Mitt Romney hasn’t announced yet. Getting in right now is all about raising money. The most important asset for any campaign is a candidate's time, and there's nothing harder to find than a president's time for a campaign -- so the earlier they get in, the more they can squeeze in time for the president to play low-key candidate for fundraising events. And if you’re going to be the eventual GOP nominee -- and want to raise the $750 million-plus needed to compete with Obama -- you need to get in now. Consider today a simple missed opportunity; imagine the little counter-guerilla email fundraising event an active candidate can have today on the GOP side.

*** Past poll tracking: This tells you a lot can happen between now and election day: Here are the Gallup approvals of current and past presidents in the April before their re-election: Barack Obama 45% (now), George W. Bush 70% (April 2003), Bill Clinton 48% (April 1995), George H.W. Bush 79% (April 1991), Ronald Reagan 42% (April 1983), Jimmy Carter 40% (April 1979), Richard Nixon 50% (April 1971), JFK 66% (April 1963), Ike 70% (April 1955).

*** Don’t forget about Afghanistan: Our latest NBC/WSJ poll is currently in the field, and we’ll unveil our results on Wednesday. One thing -- in addition to numbers on 2012, Obama, and the budget fight -- it will have our most extensive look at feelings toward the war in Afghanistan in quite some time.

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Comment author avatarLouisJExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

With that bit of good news, the day can only get better. And with First Lady Obama's Health Initiatives, this little tid bit of Info will help open the eyes of certain people about the health of our nation and people and how we as a Progressive Nation would like to tackle this problem. But I see a Republican counter point as I was witness to their anti-health viewss this past weekend.

Republican base says “You’re not wanted in rural Huntington, WV Jamie Oliver”

Jamie Oliver’s Food Revolution

Man talk about your cold welcome. I watched this new show called, Jamie Oliver’s Food Revolution on Saturday. The premise is Huntington is one of the unhealthiest cities in America.

First up, Anti-Health Radio DJ

At the onset, he is challenged by a radio DJ about him coming in and attempting to brainwash or indoctrinate the people into doing his will. The radio DJ said, “We don’t want to eat lettuce all day…” that’s just bad in so many ways and completely irresponsible. I have no doubt that Radio guy is the voice of Huntington and feels like he has some power so what does he do, slanders the guy about brainwashing. That’s just your usual Republican talking point.

Next Up, Anti-Health Cafeteria Workers

The reception the man received from the Central City Elementary School cafeteria workers was even colder. They heard his old English and man they thought he came from another planet. And here’s the kicker, they were eating pizza for breakfast… PIZZA FOR BREAKFAST? WTH?

When he attempts to introduce healthy alternatives within the budget, they still rail against the man.

I hope the show does well and the people respond better as the series moves forward. But this show is the face of America in regards to how we are perceived in other areas of the world… unhealthy, uncompromising and unwelcoming.

This man tried to connect with people that more or less are Conservative in nature and mannerism. But that’s how Republicans think, not being able to agree with people that think differently. I have to give it to FAUX News, they know that you guys will follow lock stock and barrel with everything they say. They realize you guys are sheep and have no intention of disagreeing with anything they say.

I have to admit that I was always perplexed how you guys defended racist actions, words and deeds from certain members of your party. But now I realize that Republicans for the large part just don’t like anyone that has a different viewpoint than their own. My bad, that’s not just racism, it’s just prejudiced.

I pity you guys... not.

United We Stand, Divided We Fall

  • 25 votes
#1 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:01 AM EDT
Comment author avatarFeisty Redhead Roselle, ILExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

It’s way past time we stop deluding ourselves when it comes to income inequality in this country?

Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that America’s top economists are running around with their hair on fire? (Or whatever passes for it with economists.) Nobel Prize winner Joe Stiglitz in Vanity Fair sounds the alarm about growing economic inequality in America. I wonder if anyone in a position to do something about it is listening?

America’s inequality distorts our society in every conceivable way. There is, for one thing, a well-documented lifestyle effect—people outside the top 1 percent increasingly live beyond their means. Trickle-down economics may be a chimera, but trickle-down behaviorism is very real. Inequality massively distorts our foreign policy. The top 1 percent rarely serve in the military—the reality is that the “all-volunteer” army does not pay enough to attract their sons and daughters, and patriotism goes only so far. Plus, the wealthiest class feels no pinch from higher taxes when the nation goes to war: borrowed money will pay for all that. Foreign policy, by definition, is about the balancing of national interests and national resources. With the top 1 percent in charge, and paying no price, the notion of balance and restraint goes out the window. There is no limit to the adventures we can undertake; corporations and contractors stand only to gain. The rules of economic globalization are likewise designed to benefit the rich: they encourage competition among countries for business, which drives down taxes on corporations, weakens health and environmental protections, and undermines what used to be viewed as the “core” labor rights, which include the right to collective bargaining. Imagine what the world might look like if the rules were designed instead to encourage competition among countries forworkers. Governments would compete in providing economic security, low taxes on ordinary wage earners, good education, and a clean environment—things workers care about. But the top 1 percent don’t need to care.

http://www.google.com/search?q=vanity+fair+joseph+stiglitz&hl=en&prmd=ivnsuo&source=univ&tbs=nws:1&tbo=u&sa=X&ei=isKZTa28GcKW0QHQ-s3wCw&ved=0CEYQqAI

This is not the America I grew up in...

While the Teapublicans fight to defund NPR & Planned Parenthood the modern day robber barons are stealing this country blind!

  • 31 votes
#1.1 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:08 AM EDT
Comment author avatarBeverly in ChicagoExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Good posts Louis& Feisty

Today is a special day. lots going on. The prez announced his reelection bid. He 'll be multitasking in meetings working.

Today is the day we celebrate Dr King's sacrifice and stand in solidarity with the unions.
The media covered the Tea Party but ignored the nationwide Job Party rallies. Will the press cover the April 4 WeAreOne?

  • 14 votes
#1.2 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:09 AM EDT
Comment author avatarBeverly in ChicagoExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Copy Truth And Nothin' But

It is a busy day. Today is the day President Obama announces his re-election bid. He is not giving a speech; he'll be working. It's so nice to have a President who cares and works hard. You can see the stress in his face and the gray in his hair.

Our president is special because he is the leader of the free world.

I don’t worry about the t-baggers. they are in demise.

Coupled with t-baggers age and the youth that are drawn to him in this country and the world, I do believe the t-baggers can never, never, ever take this country back; back to the way it was prior to the t-baggers ascent. The youth are our future and they will lead us and the world forward. To those who say they don’t hate our president; put dislike his his policies, then the truth is if they pray; they should for our president. If they don’t pray they should think positive thems for him, instead wishing him failure. If he fails we all fail. We should eradicate ill feelings because thoughts our things once they are acted upon. A perfect example is the preacher who burene the Qurans. United we Stand; divide we collapse.

The Koch brothers don’t want to be held accountable for being behind the scenes. They don’t want to be exposed either.

  1. a. Oil spills: fined $30 million in 2000 to resolve claims related to 300 oil spills across America
  2. b. Anti-worker/union
  3. c. Anti-healthcare
  4. d. Anti-immigration
  5. e. Foreclosures

Check it out: http://goo.gl/Lua4t

The billionaire Koch brothers have spent hundreds of millions of dollars to gain political influence and change America.

*************************************************************************************

I’ll work hard to get him re-elected in 2012. my vote will be against the Koch brothers since they are mysterious and the worst humanoids lurking in the dark on this earth. It’s time to eradicate distractions that keep us getting a rise in the uninsured, a rise in the poverty rate, and a drop in the median income since the Great Depression.

United we Stand; divide we collapse.

  • 19 votes
#1.3 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:15 AM EDT

Nothing New from Louis, just more of his Racist Rants against Republicans. its the same thing everday from him. On a Daily Basis he comes here an Rails against People that have Different Viewpoints as he and many of the Libbies on this page. He goes so far as to call them Racist .. EVERYDAY. I got news for you Louis, Your Racist Rants dont Deter me from Posting here. You will not Silence me by Screaming Racism in every Breath.

You really should look in the Mirror before say that people are Racist because they have a Different View then you. It is you that trys to USE THE RACE CARD daily to try and Intimadate people.

  • 37 votes
#1.4 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:17 AM EDT

Right on ladies. Posted these last week, check them out if you missed it. MLK's last speech.

I've been to the Mountaintop Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2EnnclLMX4

Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySGDMdQaDA0&feature=related

  • 9 votes
#1.5 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:17 AM EDT

Nothing new from BEV either. the same thing she posted everyday last week finds it in her first post today.

  • 23 votes
#1.6 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:19 AM EDT

"Our national debt is our biggest national security threat".

-Admiral Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, June 24, 2010-

Last month, former Clinton White House Chief-Of-Staff (and co-chair of President Obama's blue-ribbon bipartisan debt commission) Erskine Bowles, appeared before the Senate Budget Committee. Mr. Bowles testified that the United States has about two years (perhaps less) before U.S. debt levels begin to interfere with our nation's ability to float additional debt at acceptable interest rates in the world's investment markets.

One week ago last Sunday, Alice Rivlin, the founding Chair of the Congressional Budget Office (and also a debt commission member) suggested that the United States faces a sovereign debt crisis...different only in scale to the crisis that European nations like Greece, Spain, Portugal, and Ireland are dealing with.

Mullen, Bowles, and Rivlin are not part of some group of colorfully dressed Tea Party activists marching to a protest rally...they are serious, thoughtful, highly-respected and dedicated public servants.

They aren't partisan ideologues...they are patriots. And...at least two of the three are Democrats!

That anyone would prefer to listen to the counsel of a cynical political opportunist like Senator Chuck Schumer (D-NY) simply defies credulity.

The nation is still reeling from the aftermath of the meltdown of the U.S. subprime mortgage market...an emergency that threatened to cause a worldwide economic collapse.

There were warnings about the mortgage and housing markets before the crisis hit...just as there are warnings now. If you find the "Great Recession" and it's slow, painful recovery unbearable, it pales by comparison to the harsh reality of a U.S. sovereign debt crisis.

Dealing with the U.S. debt crisis has become President Obama's responsibility....he cannot avoid it or pretend that it doesn't exist.

If the President allows a U.S. sovereign debt crisis to occur on his watch, despite the warnings he's received and is continuing to receive...even from the debt commission that he appointed...it will become his legacy and the epic failure of his presidency.

The American people wil never forgive him.

  • 30 votes
#1.7 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:25 AM EDT

Steve, watch these videos I posted and get an education. I seriously doubt you will based on your narrow minded views. But they are actually indicative of what we still face even today.

I've said it before, attempting to discuss anything with you guys is like talking to a wall. You have nothing to add to the conversation other than misguided indignation and angst against people that have a differing view from you.

  • 13 votes
#1.8 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:26 AM EDT

Thanks for the links Louis - powerful stuff!

Say, how about a friendly little wager this morning as to which one of us gets collapsed first? lol

  • 8 votes
#1.9 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:26 AM EDT

Nothing new form Steve today, same old hate as usual. We wouldn't want you to go anywhere Steve, we get a good laugh from you daily.

  • 8 votes
#1.10 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:30 AM EDT

A question and an observation this morning:

First of all, who can tell me how many person-hours go into drafting, and then voting on a bill that declares itself law without it having to next go to the Senate, versus how many person-hours it takes to circle 32 basketball teams on a sheet of paper? I couldn’t seem to glean the answer on Hannity, Beck, O’Reily, Limbaugh or any of the many other ‘liberal’ media outlets.

Then, I have this observation: The church guy that burned the Korans: Who would like to chip in with me to cover the cost of sending him a box of Korans, a Zippo, some Kingsford Charcoal lighter, and a one-way airline ticket to Afghanistan so he can go over there in person, and show ‘em how he feels about the whole thing? Maybe save a couple of innocent lives in the process. Sound like a good idea to you folks?

  • 17 votes
#1.11 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:31 AM EDT

Drive-by -

Count me in. I'll even pack him a sandwich and drive him to the airport.

  • 7 votes
#1.12 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:33 AM EDT

LouisJ

I have watched all of MLKs Speaches on many Occasions. The difference between what MLK spoke about and what you speak of . Is that MLK wanted to be Judged on the Content of his Character. and not the color of his Skin,

You want special Treatment based on the Color of you Skin and not the Content of your Character. You see . you dont have any. the only thing that comes out of your mouth is that people are Racist because they dont agree with your Viewpoint. . I would rather point out the fact that you have a need to use the Color of your Skin as an Excuse. I would have alot more Respect for you as a person if you didnt come on here EVERYDAY and post that republicans are RACIST its really yoru only message.

  • 31 votes
#1.13 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:34 AM EDT

Goodspeed...Mr. President....Goodspeed.... :)

As an ex-president famously asked: Are you better off than you were 2yrs & 3months ago?

  • 10 votes
#1.14 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:35 AM EDT

HAPPY Be-lated BIRTHDAY Feisty and Bev.

Mr. President, It's an honor to support you Sir.

  • 9 votes
#1.15 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:35 AM EDT

Great post Louis, as one who's trying to reform my eating habits and get in shape I can relate.

Feisty, the continuing growth in income equality is what it's all about. It's no concidence that as Conservative, trickle down economics has impoverished the middle class the entire country has followed along. Conservatives are fond of complaining that the wealthy don't have enough money to support a government, then they turn around and insist the wealthy should have enough money to support the entire economy. Much hypocrisy in that.

  • 10 votes
#1.16 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:35 AM EDT

I'll wager that when I see the brood comments from the TEA Drinkers at 10:11 EST posting like stir crazy Whackadoodles, that it will be collapsed by 10:20.

Giggidy

:^p

  • 7 votes
#1.17 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:36 AM EDT

Hi Louis,

You are correct. Thanks

  • 5 votes
#1.18 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:44 AM EDT

"There is, for one thing, a well-documented lifestyle effect—people outside the top 1 percent increasingly live beyond their means."

___________________________________________________________

Gee, THAT must be why the mall parking lots are filled with brand new or nearly new gas-guzzling mega-SUV's at $4.00 a gallon for gas. Sorry folks, I just can't feel any sympathy for people who CHOOSE to live beyond their means and that's a whole lotta people. They always have the newest smart phone with all the goodies, a $250 a month cable bill, restaurants 4-5 nights a week, vacation cruises to Mexico and the Carribean, ski trips to Colorado, new clothes so they look good on those vacations, the latest 60 inch TV's in 6 rooms in their new unaffordable houses they bought with a tiny down payment, etc.

When they end up deep in debt after all that irresponsible spending, I simply smile and say you got yourself into this mess, get yourself out of it too. You're not my problem.

  • 15 votes
#1.19 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:50 AM EDT

@Mixed Bag: When you are facing a budget imbalance in your home, do you tell your spouse to quit their part-time job ? That is the situation the Republicans are doing with the budget in the US. Cutting the spending levels to 2008 is a good idea, but we should also increase revenues on those who can afford it. Cutting taxes (or insisting on the continuation of existing cuts) on the wealthiest 2% at a time when additional spending has been needed is sure to "starve the beast." However, this "beast" also feeds the poor and allows many to (at least currently) obtain a college education. What should be cut is the cancerous growth known as corporate welfare. Why has no one proposed cuts to the oil subsidies, farm subsidies, pharm subsidies ?

Also, if you are running short every month, do you eat in, or do you go out for dinner ? If you give to charity intending to help the poor, do you give to the Red Cross, or do you give to the RNC ?

  • 6 votes
#1.20 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:56 AM EDT

Mixed Bag,

You are 110% correct. The solution to our debt problem WILL be very devastating to this country and if we don't do anything about it, well, I will let people go wild with their imagination because that's exactly what is going to happen. This is nothing personal, it's just a numbers game and the game is over for the US.

  • 9 votes
#1.21 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:59 AM EDT

Fiesty is right. The budget is the responsibility of the SOH. And, for this budget that WAS the responsibility of Pelosi who FAILED to do her job. So, since the Dems abdicated their responsibility to somebody else, they have no right to cry "foul" about any part of this budget.

  • 11 votes
#1.22 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:03 AM EDT

But now I realize that Republicans for the large part just don’t like anyone that has a different viewpoint than their own. My bad, that’s not just racism, it’s just prejudiced.

Well LouisJ., how hateful you are. Are you a racist like Bev from Chicago also? Republicans are not folks that don;t appreciate anyone with a different viewpoint. We welcome the opportunity to attempt to reason with those of the progressive persuasion, unforthnately, when we do, we are identified as racists, trolls, turds, among other descriptive terms.

Wow, should I be a complete pompus a$$, using the nasty terms to move my agenda forward, perhaps I too could be visited by Obama. Gosh, I hope not.

  • 9 votes
#1.23 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:03 AM EDT

You're missing the point, dirp101. Without President Obama's leadership, there will be no broad consensus on a plan to address the debt crisis before it's too late. Where is he?

tontosh-I hope you're wrong and that it's not too late to address the debt crisis. I agree that the numbers are grim, but if President Obama intends to act...now would be an excellent time to at least get started.

  • 7 votes
#1.24 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:05 AM EDT

LouisJ

Right on ladies. Posted these last week, check them out if you missed it. MLK's last speech.

I've been to the Mountaintop Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2EnnclLMX4

Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySGDMdQaDA0&feature=related

Louis, I love that speech. It has so many precious memories for me. I remember watching the March on Washington on the black and white TV as teenager with my mother and her neighbor. I couldn't understand why they crying. Well, when President Obama had his rally in Grant Park I then realized I was doing the same thing my mother did; crying. It was such a historic moment.

Second, my son was born on MLK's birthday. He can recite just about every speech he heard of Dr King's

Finally when Harold Washington, the First African American was running for mayor, I volunteered to GOTV. I had the opportunity to be sitting in a meeting with a professor who was part of his inner circle.

What she told us was shocking. She started trembling as she told Us how she was ready to give when Dr King was practicing his speech. She said when Dr King got to the part of I've been to the mountain top. she told she couldn't go there.

I don't know what her emotions meant. Was she feeling, guilt , pain pride; I don' know?

=========================================

Glenn Beck can never fill Dr Kings shoes. Plus he lied or didn't know DR. king marched with the unions.

One more thing I see the sleazy race chasers are looking to get their jollies off.

They love it

  • 5 votes
#1.25 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:23 AM EDT

LOL. Man, you can't top that prediction. I win. Pay up.

That's tatamount.

Giggidy.

:^/

  • 3 votes
#1.26 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:30 AM EDT

LOL. Man, you can't top that prediction. I win. Pay up.

Did YOU call it or WHAT? lmao!

You Win!

  • 2 votes
#1.27 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:37 AM EDT

LouisJ

You really should look in the Mirror before say that people are Racist because they have a Different View then you. It is you that trys to USE THE RACE CARD daily to try and Intimadate people.

Ooh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-ooh, you take that? This guy must think you're Leroy Brown. LMAO

But, that's his job voter suppression. It must be a horrific life to run around like an ambulance race chasing

  • 3 votes
#1.28 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:44 AM EDT

LouisJ Comment collapsed by the community

The lovers; opps I mean haters of democracy are doing their collapsing posts suppression; AGAIN!

With that bit of good news, the day can only get better. And with First Lady Obama's Health Initiatives, this little tid bit of Info will help open the eyes of certain people about the health of our nation and people and how we as a Progressive Nation would like to tackle this problem. But I see a Republican counter point as I was witness to their anti-health viewss this past weekend.

Republican base says “You’re not wanted in rural Huntington, WV Jamie Oliver”

Jamie Oliver’s Food Revolution

Man talk about your cold welcome. I watched this new show called, Jamie Oliver’s Food Revolution on Saturday. The premise is Huntington is one of the unhealthiest cities in America.

First up, Anti-Health Radio DJ

At the onset, he is challenged by a radio DJ about him coming in and attempting to brainwash or indoctrinate the people into doing his will. The radio DJ said, “We don’t want to eat lettuce all day…” that’s just bad in so many ways and completely irresponsible. I have no doubt that Radio guy is the voice of Huntington and feels like he has some power so what does he do, slanders the guy about brainwashing. That’s just your usual Republican talking point.

Next Up, Anti-Health Cafeteria Workers

The reception the man received from the Central City Elementary School cafeteria workers was even colder. They heard his old English and man they thought he came from another planet. And here’s the kicker, they were eating pizza for breakfast… PIZZA FOR BREAKFAST? WTH?

When he attempts to introduce healthy alternatives within the budget, they still rail against the man.

I hope the show does well and the people respond better as the series moves forward. But this show is the face of America in regards to how we are perceived in other areas of the world… unhealthy, uncompromising and unwelcoming.

This man tried to connect with people that more or less are Conservative in nature and mannerism. But that’s how Republicans think, not being able to agree with people that think differently. I have to give it to FAUX News, they know that you guys will follow lock stock and barrel with everything they say. They realize you guys are sheep and have no intention of disagreeing with anything they say.

I have to admit that I was always perplexed how you guys defended racist actions, words and deeds from certain members of your party. But now I realize that Republicans for the large part just don’t like anyone that has a different viewpoint than their own. My bad, that’s not just racism, it’s just prejudiced.

I pity you guys... not.

United We Stand, Divided We Fall

  • 3 votes
#1.29 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:55 AM EDT

Uhh...just wondering, Bev-

Why would you re-post LouisJ's collapsed post on the same collapsed thread?

Not that there's ever a point to re-posting a LouisJ editorial...

But...

Why?

lol

  • 8 votes
#1.30 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 11:14 AM EDT

Man, someone shook up the Republican hornets' nest with with this thought today. They are out in force. HAHAHA! Hey FR give me stick so I can poke it and really get them in a frenzy.

Oh man I feel the hate in the room.

Giggidy

:^D

  • 2 votes
#1.31 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 12:33 PM EDT

LouisJ-

No hate from me. I love your posts.

Some of them are better arguments for conservatism than my stuff.

Not intentionally, of course, but still...

I don't know why people collapse posts, but I don't know why they're re-posted either. Anyone can view a collapsed post anytime they like, right?

Why bother?

  • 5 votes
#1.32 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 12:52 PM EDT

I hear this nonsense about the First Ladies health food kick off, personally, I want them all kicked out of my life. Where is it written in the constitution that the government's job is to decide and to try to enforce a better diet. Maybe we should have the people in Washington look at this deficit that is going to bury us and realize that before we die from a bad diet we are not going to have a country left because Washington is spending us into oblivion.

I do not know about you but the government needs to get back to the fundamentals and protect our boarders, protect us from enemies both within and without, enable us to make money without taking it all in taxes, and to stop growing, I think they already employ half the country and then pay checks to the other quarter.

You think we have something great. Go to Europe who did what we are doing now fifteen years ago and now they are bankrupt, the people are rioting because they are not going to get to retire at 25, and for once they are starting to look at their spending habits with a sense of realism.

For you that think we do here. So far we have gone farther in debt this year then we did during the whole eight years of the Bush Jr, Clinton, Bush Sr, Reagan, and Carter all combined. If we get another four years of these idiots in the oval office we will be rioting in the streets because gas will be at $15 a gallon, we will have to spend half our wages to eat, and then with the little we have left we will not be able to pay our mortgages, and this is before Uncle Sam comes knocking.

    #1.33 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 4:35 PM EDT

    It looks like First Read has Obama ahead already. 232 to 191. I guess they couldn't wait to post the number of states with electorial votes that show Democrat vs Republican.

    Neither democrat or republicans will decide the election in 2012. It will be all on the independent's shoulders. They will decide the election. For as much as the liberals want Obama to be re-elected, independents think differently. Most of your tea-party are independents so, up yours liberals! Keep showing the tea party your true colors and your hopes will be dashed in the ballot box.

    I love the way the liberals on this board think they are the kings of verse and verbage.... tossing out their liberal blogs and links... as if what they say will garner any support from us independents. For as much as I dislike the republican party, I can't stand the democrats. If you think for one minute my opinion is not shared by millions of independents, you have another thought coming. Just think back to the midterms. I haven't lost my fervor and neither has a lot of other independents. We are just beginning to dump democrats and the lead up to the election will prove how wrong the liberals are.

    I'm looking forward to the long faces on the liberals the day after the 2012 election as they wonder what happened. Independents rule this nation and the democrats have no hope of gaining much ground because we know who they are... and what they stand for.

    • 1 vote
    #1.34 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 5:25 PM EDT
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    Comment author avatarJoAnnaSmith1Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    Obama wants to be re-elected. Now that’s funny. This loser wants the voters to ignore his voting “present” and total lack of leadership, his bringing us into a civil war in Libya, huge unemployment numbers, huge deficits, mind-numbing debt, ObamaCare that will soon be thrown out by the courts for being unconstitutional, a little man that is bought and paid for by the unions and environmental groups, a man that could not care less about spending the country into bankruptcy, a man that has given us $4 dollar/gallon gasoline, is one of the most divisive and partisan Presidents in modern time. And he wants to be re-elected – what an absolute joke. No energy policy, no debt/deficit plan, no coherent foreign policy, no restraint on government growth and spending. That’s Obama. And he thinks he should be re-elected. The man is an absolute dolt.

    • 70 votes
    #2 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:15 AM EDT
    Comment author avatarFeisty Redhead Roselle, ILExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    Welcome back JoAnna - nice to see you managed to hit all the right wing 'buzz' words this morning!

    Frank Luntz would be proud of you sweetie! ;o)

    • 23 votes
    #2.1 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:18 AM EDT

    Obama doesn't have the courage to be the point man on being critical of the House GOP's budget plan. The man is weak, and when he gets off script, he looks like a fool. He'll leave that job to crazy Harry Reid, Durbin, and Chuckie Schumer. That crew of no-loads is good at being critical of any change, of not getting away from the status quo. And don't get between these three Liberals and a camera, you'll get stampeded.

    • 48 votes
    #2.2 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:29 AM EDT

    "We're doing this now because the politics we believe in does not start with expensive TV ads or extravaganzas, but with you -- with people organizing block-by-block, talking to neighbors, co-workers, and friends.

    Too funny, particularly when juxtaposed against this blurb from today's Washington Post:

    "The formation of a re-election committee will allow Obama to begin collecting cash for what is expected to be the most expensive campaign in political history. Obama raised $750 million in 2008 and is widely expected to meet or exceed that total in 2012.

    Already Obama campaign manager Jim Messina has been touring the country to meet with major donors; he has asked 400 major donors to each collect $350,000 in 2011, a target that, if met, would mean that Obama would end the year with $140 million raised — before a single vote was cast in the race for Republican presidential nomination."

    'Nuff said.

    • 24 votes
    #2.3 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:34 AM EDT
    Comment author avatarFeisty Redhead Roselle, ILExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    Obama doesn't have the courage to be the point man on being critical of the House GOP's budget plan

    Pick up a copy of Government for Dummies 101 will ya? I've been tols it has lots of picture and no BIG words which would make it easy for even you to comprehend.

    It is NOT the Presidents JOB to create a budget - that responsibility lies with the Weeper of the House, who so far can't manage to herd cats let alone get something done!

    • 23 votes
    #2.4 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:34 AM EDT
    Comment author avatarM0-681343Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    WOW, what are you scared of this morning JoAnna1? Did it scare you that our President is going to be elected to another term? Your hate is much more pronounced than usual. You'd better calm down a little it's a long day.

    • 17 votes
    #2.5 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:34 AM EDT
    Comment author avatarJoAnne in PAExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    Feisty -

    Looks like she forgot "weak", "off script" and "fool" the first time - not sure how; I thought they were all in that same post she's been putting up every day for two years now. Oh, and I think she missed "punted" and "kick the can", but I see above that Paul Ryan has her covered.

    "a man that has given us $4 dollar/gallon gasoline" - Where so you live, JoAnna? I paid $3.55 on Saturday, which is about what it's been in Pennsylvania the last several weeks. And it's even cheaper in Delaware and New Jersey.

    • 17 votes
    #2.6 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:37 AM EDT
    Comment author avatarBeverly in ChicagoExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    JoAnnaSmith1

    Obama wants to be re-elected. Now that’s funny. This loser wants the voters to ignore his voting “present” and total lack of leadership, his bringing us into a civil war in Libya, huge unemployment numbers, huge deficits, mind-numbing debt, ObamaCare that will soon be thrown out by the courts for being unconstitutional, a little man that is bought and paid for by the unions and environmental groups,

    Woman thou are lossed today. Would somebody heal the woman ? HEAL THAT WOMAN today.

    If you must commit a sin the first thing this morning; then try not to let it be slander. I'm used to your habitual lying.; but slander? Mercy.

    You know voting PRESENT in Illinois doesn't mean one is absent. A present vote is not unusual in Illinois. It's simple JoAnnaSmith1; it means 'Nay'.

    President Obama cast 4,000 votes in the Illinois Senate and used the present vote to protest bills that he believed had been drafted unconstitutionally or as part of a broader legislative strategy.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/20/us/politics/20obama.html

    Oh, about that unconstitutionality, you'd better check with Cantor about trying to make a bill the law of the land!

    • 10 votes
    #2.7 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:37 AM EDT

    Bill, Fairfax, VA: "The formation of a re-election committee will allow Obama to begin collecting cash for what is expected to be the most expensive campaign in political history. Obama raised $750 million in 2008 and is widely expected to meet or exceed that total in 2012.

    A good portion of that money Obama fed to the Unions from his "Stimulus Plan" of 2008 will be coming back to him. Essentially, borrowed money from China is financing Obama's re-election campaign. The Chinese don't mind, they just tell Obama to jump, and Barack just asks them "How high?".

    Obama: The most bought and sold President ever.

    • 39 votes
    #2.8 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:41 AM EDT
    Comment author avatarJody, IowaExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    More petty "present" vote nonsense. In Illinois, this is a common practice and it is a positive not a negative. It means the legislator supports the idea of the legislation but objects to some portion of it.

    Read "Worse than Watergate", written by a former republican, and it is obvious who really was the most bought and paid for president and vice president. Does the name Bush ring a bell?

    It's one thing to be uninformed, it's another thing to post remarks proving it.

    • 12 votes
    #2.9 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:46 AM EDT
    Comment author avatarBeverly in ChicagoExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    Bob-1887910

    Wake up America: the Obamas are healthy and trim" Please, dont go there. While it is not fair game to attack the Presdient's family personally, neither is it sane to claim they are perfect!The First Lady has had weight challenges..the President himself is a smoker!

    No Booby the First Family is not perfect ; but daymn, they are so close to it. They are the epitome of perfect role models.

    They have no scandals They put their nose to the grindstone and work/ed hard. Oh, and they don't quit either. Seldom you'll find the President and FLOTUS COMPLAIN about the media.

    The Obama's are such lovely people and have two well-behaved beautiful daughters.

    No one can hardly hate that about them. They are living the American dream.

    • 10 votes
    #2.10 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:52 AM EDT
    Comment author avatarJob1Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    JoAnna,

    You are definably in the running for the most uninformed Obama hater. Nothing you spew has an ounce of truth. I have fact checked everything you claim and it all recycled right wing Tea Bagger garbage talk, without any facts.

    Come on; if you knew how ridiculous you sounded you would go bury you head in the sand.

    • 11 votes
    #2.11 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:55 AM EDT

    Jody, Iowa: It's one thing to be uninformed, it's another thing to post remarks proving it.

    Please post the Democrats plan to reduce the deficit, provide entitlement reform, modernize tax policy, and pay down the national debt.

    We're waiting . . . . . .

    • 31 votes
    #2.12 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:59 AM EDT

    And no credible opposition!!

    • 4 votes
    #2.13 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:01 AM EDT
    Comment author avatarPius Emeka NeboExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    Beverly

    No point arguing with this teablabber numskulls. they go with blabbing points and not facts, statistics or references.

    They are zombies.

    • 4 votes
    #2.14 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:01 AM EDT
    Comment author avatarFeisty Redhead Roselle, ILExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL Comment collapsed by the community

    It’s way past time we stop deluding ourselves when it comes to income inequality in this country?

    Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that America’s top economists are running around with their hair on fire? (Or whatever passes for it with economists.) Nobel Prize winner Joe Stiglitz in Vanity Fair sounds the alarm about growing economic inequality in America. I wonder if anyone in a position to do something about it is listening?

    America’s inequality distorts our society in every conceivable way. There is, for one thing, a well-documented lifestyle effect—people outside the top 1 percent increasingly live beyond their means. Trickle-down economics may be a chimera, but trickle-down behaviorism is very real. Inequality massively distorts our foreign policy. The top 1 percent rarely serve in the military—the reality is that the “all-volunteer” army does not pay enough to attract their sons and daughters, and patriotism goes only so far. Plus, the wealthiest class feels no pinch from higher taxes when the nation goes to war: borrowed money will pay for all that. Foreign policy, by definition, is about the balancing of national interests and national resources. With the top 1 percent in charge, and paying no price, the notion of balance and restraint goes out the window. There is no limit to the adventures we can undertake; corporations and contractors stand only to gain. The rules of economic globalization are likewise designed to benefit the rich: they encourage competition among countries for business, which drives down taxes on corporations, weakens health and environmental protections, and undermines what used to be viewed as the “core” labor rights, which include the right to collective bargaining. Imagine what the world might look like if the rules were designed instead to encourage competition among countries forworkers. Governments would compete in providing economic security, low taxes on ordinary wage earners, good education, and a clean environment—things workers care about. But the top 1 percent don’t need to care.

    http://www.google.com/search?q=vanity+fair+joseph+stiglitz&hl=en&prmd=ivnsuo&source=univ&tbs=nws:1&tbo=u&sa=X&ei=isKZTa28GcKW0QHQ-s3wCw&ved=0CEYQqAI

    This is not the America I grew up in...

    While the Teapublicans fight to defund NPR & Planned Parenthood the modern day robber barons are stealing this country blind!

    • 4 votes
    #2.15 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:31 AM EDT

    Smiff and Me First reappear on the same day. Hmmm....

    • 2 votes
    #2.16 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:33 AM EDT

    JoAnna-

    Perhaps we already have the Democrats plan.

    Maybe President Obama's FY 2012 budget proposal and 10 year projection is the plan. After all, the President received a Plan to address the budget deficit from his debt commission last December; in January he submitted the FY 2012 budget with its accompanying 10-year CBO debt and spending forecast.

    According to that forecast, $13 trillion in new debt will be added to the $14 trillion we already have...debt service payments will rise towards $1 trillion annually.

    Until President Obama offers a revision, I'm going to assume that the FY 2012 budget proposal is the Democrats' plan to address the debt crisis.

    Frankly...I like both the debt commission's plan AND Paul Ryan's plan better.

    • 22 votes
    #2.17 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:38 AM EDT

    Looks like Dems are getting a jump start on their violent rhetoric too:

    "here is our revised NBC Political Unit Battleground map"

    Really, you have a "political unit" like a tactical unitand America is now a Battleground? Are you going to being dropping "campaign bombs" and leading "speaking assaults" on the the public too?

    • 25 votes
    #2.18 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:39 AM EDT

    MB: Maybe President Obama's FY 2012 budget proposal and 10 year projection is the plan

    We have to assume it is. But I asked for the Obama/Democrat deficit/debt reduction plan, their tax modernized tax policy plan, and their entitlement reform plan, and yet there appears to be nothing from Obama and the Democrats. So the Democrats plan appears to be the status quo. To change nothing. To spend, spend, and spend some more. To load up the future generations with more and more debt. That is sure some "plan" Obama and his party have come up with.

    • 21 votes
    #2.19 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:48 AM EDT

    Why is Obama anouncing 2012
    run now?

    Because if he waited any longer people would think he was kidding? Duh.

    • 10 votes
    #2.20 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 11:02 AM EDT
    Comment author avatarBeverly in ChicagoExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    Beverly in Chicago Comment collapsed by the community

    Scary Cats collapse posts!

    Good posts Louis& Feisty

    Today is a special day. lots going on. The prez announced his reelection bid. He 'll be multitasking in meetings working.

    Today is the day we celebrate Dr King's sacrifice and stand in solidarity with the unions.
    The media covered the Tea Party but ignored the nationwide Job Party rallies. Will the press cover the April 4 WeAreOne?

    @Pius Emeka Nebo

    Beverly

    No point arguing with this teablabber numskulls. they go with blabbing points and not facts, statistics or references.

    They are zombies.

    Sonmthin' got a hold on them.

    BTW: I'm done arguing with scary lil dudes. I like real men.

    • 1 vote
    #2.21 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 11:03 AM EDT

    It’s way past time we stop deluding ourselves when it comes to income inequality in this country?

    Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that America’s top economists are running around with their hair on fire? (Or whatever passes for it with economists.) Nobel Prize winner Joe Stiglitz in Vanity Fair sounds the alarm about growing economic inequality in America. I wonder if anyone in a position to do something about it is listening?

    America’s inequality distorts our society in every conceivable way. There is, for one thing, a well-documented lifestyle effect—people outside the top 1 percent increasingly live beyond their means. Trickle-down economics may be a chimera, but trickle-down behaviorism is very real. Inequality massively distorts our foreign policy. The top 1 percent rarely serve in the military—the reality is that the “all-volunteer” army does not pay enough to attract their sons and daughters, and patriotism goes only so far. Plus, the wealthiest class feels no pinch from higher taxes when the nation goes to war: borrowed money will pay for all that. Foreign policy, by definition, is about the balancing of national interests and national resources. With the top 1 percent in charge, and paying no price, the notion of balance and restraint goes out the window. There is no limit to the adventures we can undertake; corporations and contractors stand only to gain. The rules of economic globalization are likewise designed to benefit the rich: they encourage competition among countries for business, which drives down taxes on corporations, weakens health and environmental protections, and undermines what used to be viewed as the “core” labor rights, which include the right to collective bargaining. Imagine what the world might look like if the rules were designed instead to encourage competition among countries forworkers. Governments would compete in providing economic security, low taxes on ordinary wage earners, good education, and a clean environment—things workers care about. But the top 1 percent don’t need to care.

    http://www.google.com/search?q=vanity+fair+joseph+stiglitz&hl=en&prmd=ivnsuo&source=univ&tbs=nws:1&tbo=u&sa=X&ei=isKZTa28GcKW0QHQ-s3wCw&ved=0CEYQqAI

    This is not the America I grew up in...

    While the Teapublicans fight to defund NPR & Planned Parenthood the modern day robber barons are stealing this country blind!

    • 2 votes
    #2.22 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 11:04 AM EDT

    Bill, Fairfax,

    "We're doing this now because the politics we believe in does not start with expensive TV ads or extravaganzas, but with you -- with people organizing block-by-block, talking to neighbors, co-workers, and friends.

    That might have worked when people had neighbors, not empty foreclosed on homes. That might have worked when people had jobs, not sitting in unemployment lines waiting for the shovel ready jobs that never appeared. That might have worked if people knew where their friends were, lines are too long at the library to get on the computer to check facebook while looking for a job. Shelters don't have internet access or computers either. :(

    • 10 votes
    #2.23 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 11:11 AM EDT

    As far as I'm concerned, if you don't pay Federal income taxes, you should have no say in governing the Country.

    Of course, we are accustomed to the idea that high income earners pay more in taxes both in absolute terms and as a percentage of their incomes. But taxing only the top half of a society is not normal progressive taxation. Instead, the recent changes to our tax system are an example of politicians using the tax code for their own political ends. In this case, the so-called progressive Democratic politicians are using “tax reform” to grow their political base by creating a group of Americans that pay no federal income tax.

    Read more: #ixzz1IInh5Mny

    • 11 votes
    #2.24 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 11:14 AM EDT
    Comment author avatarBeverly in ChicagoExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    Beverly in Chicago Comment collapsed by the community

    Scary Cats collapse posts! The truth is psychopaths often tend to do the same thing over and over. And they have very little social skills too.


    Copy Truth And Nothin' But

    It is a busy day. Today is the day President Obama announces his re-election bid. He is not giving a speech; he'll be working. It's so nice to have a President who cares and works hard. You can see the stress in his face and the gray in his hair.

    Our president is special because he is the leader of the free world.

    I don’t worry about the t-baggers. they are in demise.

    Coupled with t-baggers age and the youth that are drawn to him in this country and the world, I do believe the t-baggers can never, never, ever take this country back; back to the way it was prior to the t-baggers ascent. The youth are our future and they will lead us and the world forward. To those who say they don’t hate our president; put dislike his his policies, then the truth is if they pray; they should for our president. If they don’t pray they should think positive thems for him, instead wishing him failure. If he fails we all fail. We should eradicate ill feelings because thoughts our things once they are acted upon. A perfect example is the preacher who burene the Qurans. United we Stand; divide we collapse.

    The Koch brothers don’t want to be held accountable for being behind the scenes. They don’t want to be exposed either.

    1. a. Oil spills: fined $30 million in 2000 to resolve claims related to 300 oil spills across America
    2. b. Anti-worker/union
    3. c. Anti-healthcare
    4. d. Anti-immigration
    5. e. Foreclosures

    Check it out: http://goo.gl/Lua4t

    The billionaire Koch brothers have spent hundreds of millions of dollars to gain political influence and change America.

    *************************************************************************************

    I’ll work hard to get him re-elected in 2012. my vote will be against the Koch brothers since they are mysterious and the worst humanoids lurking in the dark on this earth. It’s time to eradicate distractions that keep us getting a rise in the uninsured, a rise in the poverty rate, and a drop in the median income since the Great Depression.

    United we Stand; divide we collapse.

    • 1 vote
    #2.25 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 11:16 AM EDT

    Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL Comment collapsed by the community

    Obama doesn't have the courage to be the point man on being critical of the House GOP's budget plan

    Pick up a copy of Government for Dummies 101 will ya? I've been tols it has lots of picture and no BIG words which would make it easy for even you to comprehend.

    It is NOT the Presidents JOB to create a budget - that responsibility lies with the Weeper of the House, who so far can't manage to herd cats let alone get something done!

    • 1 vote
    #2.26 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 11:18 AM EDT

    MixedBag, let's reserve judgement on Ryan's plan until he supplies us with some actual numbers. I'm disappointed too that Obama did not embrace the deficit commissions recommendations, because I think their approach is really the only way out. Cut discretionary spending, cut military spending, reform SS, medicare, and medicaide, AND increase revenue in a way that does not reduce investment in business (which is to increase taxes on wealthy individuals and not on business).

    My gut feeling is that Ryan's plan will attempt to hide information about what specific government programs and services will be cut and how that might affect the economy. Nor will he be honest about who is going to be fired. Republicans have a history of hiding truth and fact behind a veil of empty rhetoric. I'll probably like Ryan's numbers better than Obama's, but it's really hard for me to support a policy or a party that depends on hiding the truth.

    • 2 votes
    #2.27 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 11:19 AM EDT

    Feisty - While the Teapublicans fight to defund NPR & Planned Parenthood the modern day robber barons are stealing this country blind!

    This is what I honestly do not understand Feisty - Your guy is in charge. Your party had 100% control for 2 years. In that time, they did NOTHING to address this income inequity, tax inequity, and under Obama the rich have gotten richer faster than anytime in the history of the world.

    If he is such a great guy, how come he enjoys his millions, and entertains billionaires, all on our dime, and continues to enrich them?

    As far as I can tell, he's just another lying thieving rich guy who has fooled a bunch of dimwits into following him and his pack of lying liars.

    Please don't respond with an attack on someone else - how about an honest answer to this very real issue about your guy and your party?

    • 9 votes
    #2.28 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 11:37 AM EDT

    @Feisty you may be the one who needs to read up....Everyone on here needs to quit acting like either side is in this for you. Both sides are the same when it comes down to it....Selfish, hypocrites and greedy. Don't belittle people Feisty it looks bad.

    The Budget of the United States Government is the President's proposal to the U.S. Congress which recommends funding levels for the next fiscal year, beginning October 1. Congressional decisions are governed by rules and legislation regarding the federal budget process. Budget committees set spending limits for the House and Senate committees and for Appropriations subcommittees, which then approve individual appropriations bills to allocate funding to various federal programs.

    • 5 votes
    #2.29 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 11:41 AM EDT

    Beverly & Feisty

    Two of a kind that can be seen backslapping each other over silly Liberal retorts all over this page. Never any substance and plenty of hate.

    • 10 votes
    #2.30 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 12:05 PM EDT

    joe mota-

    My hope is that Ryan's plan will finally push President Obama to suggest something very close to the Plan his debt commission offered him.

    Until then, the only plan he and Congressional Democrats have is the future outlined by the CBO in the President's FY 2012 budget proposal.

    It's time for President Obama to get off the fence...because no plan has a prayer unless the President actively supports it and uses his bully pulpit to persuade the American public.

    • 5 votes
    #2.31 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 12:13 PM EDT

    I can't figure out why people like you feel it is the governments responsibility to manage every little bit of your life. Are you responsible for anything you might do during your entire life span?

    So I live within my means but you decide to run up a tab on your house by taking out a second mortgage. You take vacations and maybe put in a swimming pool that you can't afford. So you think it is OK for the government to come an bail you out at my expense? Sure you do! That is Obama's plan for re-election let the other guy pay for the ass-s that were allowed to buy something they couldn't afford and then let the other guy that pays taxes pay for it.

    Total and complete bullsh-t!

    • 4 votes
    #2.32 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 12:38 PM EDT

    This is what I honestly do not understand Feisty - Your guy is in charge. Your party had 100% control for 2 years. In that time, they did NOTHING to address this income inequity, tax inequity, and under Obama the rich have gotten richer faster than anytime in the history of the world.

    I seem to remember them TRYING to do many things to address the problem, and YOUR PARTY saying "NO" to every single thing.

    Remember when he wanted to remove the Bush tax cuts? Remember when YOUR PARTY said that corporations NEED the cuts to hire more people? Now we find out that these EXACT SAME corporations paid ZERO taxes, and still laid off workers. So YOUR PARTY lied, there is no question about it. Extending the tax cuts did NOTHING to help corporations hire more, because they were never paying taxes. You only succeeded in giving the rich ANOTHER break, while the middle class struggles. This was YOUR PARTY . . . saying "No" . . . arguing . . . fighting every step of the way. You may have a short-term memory, but I do not.

    The sad part is, I half-way believed that extending the tax cuts might work. I thought, "Ok . . . they might have a point. Let's see if it helps." But now I see YOUR PARTY for the liars that they truly are.

    • 3 votes
    #2.33 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 12:49 PM EDT

    Wow... I actually read all that. The name calling is kinda funny. Reading this is almost like reading a script from an elementary school playground argument/fight.

    • 2 votes
    #2.34 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 2:06 PM EDT

    @Paul F

    Paul, I vote for Obama and I do lean towards being a liberal (although I think both parties are a mixture of criminals, wackos, power-mongers, self-serving fools and just plain idiots)

    And yes it's true I agree that Obama has been the "Fluff Ball" president. I know only history will determine what his presidency has accomplished, but I don't recall him doing anything of real value. And the heath care system was a total (pardon the pun) abortion.

    A lot of us had very high hopes for Obama. When are we going to stop falling for the same old trickery and campaign promises that sound too good to be true. I'd love to hear a candidate speak the truth for once: "Well I would like to do this and like to do that, I'm not making any promises, but I'll try". Of course it all depends on what the big campaign financiers tell them to do anyway.

    • 4 votes
    #2.35 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 3:01 PM EDT

    Why does any candidate need a billion dollars to run campaign. We need real campaign finance reform. I don't want a hollywood production and good commercials I want substance and character.

    • 1 vote
    #2.36 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 5:00 PM EDT
    Reply
    Comment author avatarAmy B. Portland, MEExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    Louis, your observations are embarrassing but true. I remember watching news coverage of the Gulf oil spill, where they interviewed all these Louisianians with necks the size of tree trunks. I'm not saying Mainers aren't fat too; Mainers in swimsuits still look like we're wearing down jackets. What is up with us Americans, our obesity epidemic, and the rigid denial of how fat and unhealthy we have become? I truly think Sarah Palin's popularity stemmed from the belief by her "base" that you can live an unhealthy lifestyle and still look as good as she does. I read in the book Game Changers that Palin was only eating a few bites of protein a day during her VP campaign. Wake up America: the Obamas are healthy and trim because they watch what they eat and exercise; we have to value self discipline again.

    • 15 votes
    #3 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:15 AM EDT

    Amy,

    dont know if you are on a fat free diet, but your leftist diatribes are fact free, and empty of substance.

    "I truly think Sarah Palin's popularity stemmed from the belief by her "base" that you can live an unhealthy lifestyle and still look as good as she does."

    So you are blaming America's obesity problem on the fact Sarah Palin lives a healthy lifestyle?

    "Wake up America: the Obamas are healthy and trim" Please, dont go there. While it is not fair game to attack the Presdient's family personally, neither is it sane to claim they are perfect!The First Lady has had weight challenges..the President himself is a smoker!

    • 21 votes
    #3.1 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:27 AM EDT
    Comment author avatarLouisJExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

    Bob, maybe because Palin is the face and voice of the Republican Party and represents everything you stand for. You guys take everything she says as gospel. Republicans rely on failed entertainers and former failed governors.

    • 5 votes
    #3.2 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:41 AM EDT

    Some would say too much protein is part of our health issues.

    • 5 votes
    #3.3 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:54 AM EDT

    I can say for a fact that the Obama family is healthier and lets just say smarter than the Palin family.

    Correction, President Obama is an ex-smoker and Michelle is in great shape.

    • 9 votes
    #3.4 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:01 AM EDT

    With that bit of good news, the day can only get better. And with First Lady Obama's Health Initiatives, this little tid bit of Info will help open the eyes of certain people about the health of our nation and people and how we as a Progressive Nation would like to tackle this problem. But I see a Republican counter point as I was witness to their anti-health viewss this past weekend.

    Republican base says “You’re not wanted in rural Huntington, WV Jamie Oliver”

    Jamie Oliver’s Food Revolution

    Man talk about your cold welcome. I watched this new show called, Jamie Oliver’s Food Revolution on Saturday. The premise is Huntington is one of the unhealthiest cities in America.

    First up, Anti-Health Radio DJ

    At the onset, he is challenged by a radio DJ about him coming in and attempting to brainwash or indoctrinate the people into doing his will. The radio DJ said, “We don’t want to eat lettuce all day…” that’s just bad in so many ways and completely irresponsible. I have no doubt that Radio guy is the voice of Huntington and feels like he has some power so what does he do, slanders the guy about brainwashing. That’s just your usual Republican talking point.

    Next Up, Anti-Health Cafeteria Workers

    The reception the man received from the Central City Elementary School cafeteria workers was even colder. They heard his old English and man they thought he came from another planet. And here’s the kicker, they were eating pizza for breakfast… PIZZA FOR BREAKFAST? WTH?

    When he attempts to introduce healthy alternatives within the budget, they still rail against the man.

    I hope the show does well and the people respond better as the series moves forward. But this show is the face of America in regards to how we are perceived in other areas of the world… unhealthy, uncompromising and unwelcoming.

    This man tried to connect with people that more or less are Conservative in nature and mannerism. But that’s how Republicans think, not being able to agree with people that think differently. I have to give it to FAUX News, they know that you guys will follow lock stock and barrel with everything they say. They realize you guys are sheep and have no intention of disagreeing with anything they say.

    I have to admit that I was always perplexed how you guys defended racist actions, words and deeds from certain members of your party. But now I realize that Republicans for the large part just don’t like anyone that has a different viewpoint than their own. My bad, that’s not just racism, it’s just prejudiced.

    I pity you guys... not.

    United We Stand, Divided We Fall

    • 7 votes
    #3.5 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:35 AM EDT

    Talk about wasting time and money on a lost cause.

    "Obama's 'all-time low' approval rating"

    "President Obama's approval rating has slumped to an "http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2011/03/30/2011-03-30_president_obamas_approval_ratings_hit_alltime_low_half_dont_think_he_deserves_se.html">all-time low," according to a new Quinnipiac poll. A mere 42 percent of American voters approve of the job Obama is doing, while 48 percent disapprove. It gets worse: Half of all voters say he does "not deserve to be re-elected in 2012," with only 41 percent saying that he does."

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/theweek/20110330/cm_theweek/213690

    • 7 votes
    #3.6 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:59 AM EDT

    It’s way past time we stop deluding ourselves when it comes to income inequality in this country?

    Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that America’s top economists are running around with their hair on fire? (Or whatever passes for it with economists.) Nobel Prize winner Joe Stiglitz in Vanity Fair sounds the alarm about growing economic inequality in America. I wonder if anyone in a position to do something about it is listening?

    America’s inequality distorts our society in every conceivable way. There is, for one thing, a well-documented lifestyle effect—people outside the top 1 percent increasingly live beyond their means. Trickle-down economics may be a chimera, but trickle-down behaviorism is very real. Inequality massively distorts our foreign policy. The top 1 percent rarely serve in the military—the reality is that the “all-volunteer” army does not pay enough to attract their sons and daughters, and patriotism goes only so far. Plus, the wealthiest class feels no pinch from higher taxes when the nation goes to war: borrowed money will pay for all that. Foreign policy, by definition, is about the balancing of national interests and national resources. With the top 1 percent in charge, and paying no price, the notion of balance and restraint goes out the window. There is no limit to the adventures we can undertake; corporations and contractors stand only to gain. The rules of economic globalization are likewise designed to benefit the rich: they encourage competition among countries for business, which drives down taxes on corporations, weakens health and environmental protections, and undermines what used to be viewed as the “core” labor rights, which include the right to collective bargaining. Imagine what the world might look like if the rules were designed instead to encourage competition among countries forworkers. Governments would compete in providing economic security, low taxes on ordinary wage earners, good education, and a clean environment—things workers care about. But the top 1 percent don’t need to care.

    http://www.google.com/search?q=vanity+fair+joseph+stiglitz&hl=en&prmd=ivnsuo&source=univ&tbs=nws:1&tbo=u&sa=X&ei=isKZTa28GcKW0QHQ-s3wCw&ved=0CEYQqAI

    This is not the America I grew up in...

    While the Teapublicans fight to defund NPR & Planned Parenthood the modern day robber barons are stealing this country blind!

    • 6 votes
    #3.7 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 11:04 AM EDT

    Its nice to see someone with brains on here..thanks for your post

    • 1 vote
    #3.8 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 12:02 PM EDT

    Just like our weak Republicans .....Our President is just as bad.....But I will support him because he is our President!!!!

    BottomLine: Our Government as a Whole is Corrupt. The fact that I have just read comments about our obesity issues when we as a nation continue to head down the crapper because we are being lead by George Soros and his gang of thugs.

    All I ask is for people to educate themselves before you make comments and go to the voting booths.

    The good Lord gave everyone Two Ears and only One Mouth! Maybe we should listen a little more than we Talk!!!!

    • 4 votes
    #3.9 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 12:19 PM EDT

    Where are the jobs and healthy economy Obama promised??? No excuses. He didn't even focus on helping the country create jobs instead enacted legislation that cuts out jobs--the EPA regulations, his new czars making lots of money, and the healthcare issue where the big guys gets a 5 billion dollar credit from taxpayers.

    • 13 votes
    #3.10 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 12:27 PM EDT

    Man, someone shook up the Republican hornets' nest with with this thought today. They are out in force. HAHAHA! Hey FR give me a stick so I can poke it and really get them in a frenzy.

    Oh man I feel the hate in the room.

    Giggidy

    :^D

    • 2 votes
    #3.11 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 12:37 PM EDT

    ***It’s all about the money:...

    Ain't that the truth!

    The king is a fink! All of them are! Barack "Barry" Bush, George W. Obama, Clinton, Bush Sr., and all the way back to Lincoln! Maybe even before him. We the People have done a pitiful role of controlling the country. We've handed it over to those that would have us as "Human Resources" (ie - slaves). Dem/Rep, Lib/Con, Left/Right, they're ALL the same. The fact is, it's US v. them. Shame on us.

    • 2 votes
    #3.12 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 12:38 PM EDT

    Fools

      #3.13 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 12:45 PM EDT

      Bob,

      What is "leftist" in Amy's posting? You do realize that there are all kinds of very healthy and fit conservatives in northern states that also understand that people in the south are disproportionately obese and ignorant, compared to the rest of the country, right? The difference, is that those who are leftists remind you, because you're being taken advantage of by your self-percieved wealthy counterparts, and they feel sorry for you in your widespread self-defeating social philosophies. The conservatives that come from outside the south want you all to stay as obese and ignorant as you are, so that they can continue to manipulate you in order to further their social agenda, where your interests are not accounted for, because you're not rich like they are. So, you'll champion in your own new masters who will continue to use you for their gain.

      • 3 votes
      #3.14 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 12:48 PM EDT

      Then why is moochelle so fat?

      • 5 votes
      #3.15 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 1:07 PM EDT

      Not that I agree with Amy much, but obesity is not just a southern or northern thing, it is an American thing. Although they are not perfect, the presidential family at least looks somewhat healthier than many people you see at the beach. That look can go a long way. Who wants to see a 300 lb president, unless they are 300 lbs of muscle, like Hulk Hogan;)

      Politicians want you to stay fat, and out of shape, it makes their health plans easier to pass. You need drugs, they provide them. I personally know for a fact that you can lose the weight, get in shape, just by taking care of yourself. Instead of eating candy bars, drink water. Instead of driving to the corner store, walk or ride a bike. When you lose 65 lbs, it makes you feel a whole lot better. It doesn't happen overnight, you have to change your lifestyle.

      And Feisty--an article from vanity fair--from a guy who got fired as the head of the world bank?

        #3.16 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 1:43 PM EDT

        And Feisty--an article from vanity fair--from a guy who got fired as the head of the world bank

        Not surprising you missed the fact that he's a Nobel Peace Prize Economist... lol

        • 1 vote
        #3.17 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 1:48 PM EDT

        I am truly puzzled by the obesiy "epidemic". I live on disability, and my daughter's minimum wage job. My daugther has twin teen girls. Groceries are a problem. By the time the rent, utilities are paid, my check is gone, 2 or 3 days after receiving it. The twins are getting minimum, court ordered, child support from their father. How do people become so obese during these hard times? Sometimes, we have no meals. I don't mind going to bed hungry, but my granddaughters should not have to. I become absolutely engorged with rage when I see 1,000 lb. men and/or women on the boob tube. HOW!!!! I worked in healthcare for 34 years and saw quite a number of morbidly obese persons and had to help them move!!

        Sarah Palin's base is like Charlie Sheen's, on another planet!!!

          #3.18 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 2:09 PM EDT

          Why did Mr. Obama make this announcement now ?

          Simple.....his Administration finally became aware of a Census report which came out about three week ago that approximately 50,000,000 latinos are in the United States . Administration lags again. [sarcasm]

          Next on the agenda....AMNESTY FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS [IMMIGRANTS].

          Now we are starting to see ObamaNation ads hitting the media using taxpayer money. [sarcasm]

          • 1 vote
          #3.19 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 2:31 PM EDT

          Feisty,

          Since you did post it, I did read all about your economist. I know he won a Nobel Prize. But then again so did Obama. What is your point? He still got fired because they wouldn't follow his direction, which seemingly is the wrong direction. But the funniest thing was it was "Vanity Fair". How do you find these things? Is that the best he can do--an article for "Vanity Fair". Why not Newsweek, Time, Even Playboy:)

          • 2 votes
          #3.20 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 3:59 PM EDT
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          Comment author avatarJoAnnaSmith1Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

          The GOP in the House have passed a 2011 budget, one with a mild $60 billion in cuts to a $3.7 trillion dollar budget. This week, the GOP House will submit their budget plan for 2012, one that recommends $4 trillion in real cuts over the next 10 years, one that revamps Medicare and Social Security, one that restrains government growth, one that reworks the national tax policy to be in line with the world economy, one that gets the countries fiscal house in order. For 2011, the Democratic led Senate has come up with, . . . nothing! For 2012, Obama has completely ignored his own Debt Commission report and come up with a budget with $1.65 trillion dollars in deficit spending that projects to $14 trillion dollars worth of additional debt over the next 10 years.

          And the Liberals have the absolute gall to call the GOP the “Party of No”! The Democrats are the party of big government, big spending, big payoffs to the unions, and big debt to be paid for by future generations. They need to be thrown out of office in 2012, and they will be.

          • 30 votes
          #4 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:17 AM EDT

          Yup, let's get over this nickle and dime stuff and start the debate on that $4 trillion.

          • 12 votes
          #4.1 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:40 AM EDT

          The GOP/Dems both ignored the debt commission, The GOP wants to lower the corporate tax rate and tax rate on the rich to 25% plus not plug any of the existing loopholes and corporate subsidies I guess so they can invest that money in China and India also, who knows. The Dems don't seem to be interested in anything, frankly as usual our rich ruling class will win the day and screw the working and middle class out of what they have coming so they can piss it away playing global cop and codling themselves and their wealthy handlers, the so-called political system in this country is rigged so the American people have no say in anything, the rich win again, and nothing short blood filled streets will correct the problem, all governments including ours think that such things can't happen "here", they just keep beating the populace down, taking more and more and giving less and less, until it's to late. Have a great day.

          • 8 votes
          #4.2 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:59 AM EDT

          Yeah, let’s start the debate and stop trying to balance the budget on the backs of the poor and middle class. Revenue has to be raised and we have an untapped source right here in America.

          Let’s raise the taxes and stop the breaks for banks and big oil.

          • 9 votes
          #4.3 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:09 AM EDT

          So, JoAnna, you're saying that the Repubs want to cut this year's deficit from 1.65 trillion to a little less than 1.6 trillion! (By cutting 61 billion) Wow, that's a great plan! And all they have to do is cut a bunch of money that goes to the poor and middle class! Great plan!

          • 4 votes
          #4.4 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:41 AM EDT

          Just maybe this was the reason that the Bush tax cuts had an expiration date on them. Which everyone seems to want to ignore.

          • 1 vote
          #4.5 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 12:35 PM EDT

          He's out on his rear come Nov. 2012, bank on it. He is just another warmonger, and conman from Chicago, nothing more. how'd that change work for you?

          The only way that won't happen is if the republican's start talking about social issues and Jesus, hopefully they will be smarter than that, but you never know. If they leave that out, Obama won't win more than 5 states.

          • 4 votes
          #4.6 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 12:40 PM EDT

          JoAnn are you just dumb?Backmann and Max Bachus have collected more money in farm,close to 1.4 million.When is becomes fair across the board then I am willing to cut from the poor.When GE pays income tax instead of getting a 2.4 billion then let us talk about cutting the middle class.Until that happens we are all just going to keep fighting.I vote on information I investigate on my own and not some two minute sound bite that Fox throws out there.Take a few minutes of your time and look around the Internetand stop with the BS.If she is so worried about entitlements(Bachmann)should she give the money back,yea right.Start cutting there,LOL

          • 2 votes
          #4.7 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 12:59 PM EDT

          "Big payoffs" do not go to unions. Unions represent less than 12% of the workforce, and the vast majority of union workers make less than their counterparts in the private sector. Most of them decided they'd rather do more meaningful work for less pay, but have more secure jobs and maybe a little better benefits, instead. None of them will probably ever drive or own a new car, for example, like their counterparts in the private sector. It's a trade-off. Differet people made different decisions, and since the super rich want to create a wroldwide, two-class society, they're attacking those who organized for their rights and gave up more and took less now, for a little more later on. People in the private sector are not protected from these changes in the economy because they aren't organized, and they can't stand up against it, like we can, in unions. But they shouldn't blame us for it. We made a choice, and they made a choice. You can't have your cake and eat it, too. I can't help it if people placed faith in a few rich people who never had their interests in mind ever for a second, and shipped their jobs overseas. People in the private sector should organize, too. Then, most of them wouldn't be in this predicament. Instead of raising the bar for themselves, they think it's a better idea to attack those who stand up for themselves, in the best interests of those who created their hardships for them, in the first place. Really, the unions are the only thing between a two-class society here in this country, and the remains of what we have now. Those of us in unions don't think we should have to suffer just to function in this society for the hard work we do. I mean, the first two years I worked at my union government job, I still had to bounce in bars four nights a week to make ends meet, because I didn't even make enough to be able to afford a studio apartment. So, we aren't overpaid in the slightest. We all deserve better. We earned better. It's time to get the guillotines out and remind the super rich what those are for, again.

          • 2 votes
          #4.8 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 1:01 PM EDT

          Bottom line is that this is a very sad day for the world.

          Our do nothing (but put us in a deep recession)leader will be doing nothing for another 2 years.

          • 3 votes
          #4.9 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 1:17 PM EDT

          Why would he, Dave? They guy who put us in a deep recession has a permanent Secret Service detail and healthy pension. I'd hang out around the home place in Texas for the rest of my life just like he is. Maybe take in the Final Four games in person.

          Failing up is a good way to live.

          • 3 votes
          #4.10 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 1:23 PM EDT

          Hey John,I thought those blame it on Bush people grew up,I guess the left wing mentality will never

          see reality. Oh I forgot to mention that obama (our do nothing leader) did go golfing.

          • 3 votes
          #4.11 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 1:31 PM EDT

          Well Dave, I thought anyone with a memory (or a calendar) would realize the recession startd in 2007, before Barack Obama even became the candidate, let alone the President.

          You're the one who brought the guy who brought us the recession into the discussion.

          • 3 votes
          #4.12 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 1:35 PM EDT

          You are correct John, The recession started when the democrats took over congress, pelosi and frank.

          obama just made it $4 trillion worse ,you dont need a calculator

          • 1 vote
          #4.13 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 2:10 PM EDT

          There went the last of your credibility, Dave.

          First you tried to blame the recession on President Obama.

          When I pointed out the recession started before Obama was even the nominee you switched it up to being the fault of Democrats in Congress.

          Thanks for helping me demonstrate that Conservatism isn't about consistency of thought or even integrity, it's about selling a narrative. Conservatism--America's most successful PR campaign.

            #4.14 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 2:20 PM EDT

            President Obama want to be re-elected because he has not completely destroyed us.

            If he were a Republican and we were examining his record and the effects of his policies on minorities and low to middle income American you can only come to one conclusion........

            Obama is a secret Grand Cyclops of the KKK. Obama won't be happy until we are all living in the Ghetto.

            Yea .... Obama, he's so dreamy. Please pass the crack.

            Sieg Heil Obama

            • 1 vote
            #4.15 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 3:02 PM EDT
            Reply

            "Happy Days Are Here Again"  Old FDR song.  Couldn't be happier.  Go Mr. President.

            • 19 votes
            #5 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:23 AM EDT
            Comment author avatarFeisty Redhead Roselle, ILExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

            Good Morning Tom!

            Go Mr. President.

            I'm FIRED Up and Ready to GO! ;o)

            You think the nitwits are distraught now - just WAIT until President Obama wins by a landslide in 2012! lol

            • 18 votes
            #5.1 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:30 AM EDT

            Happy Days Are Here Again" Old FDR song.

            Same old song. Another economic Depression like the 1930s, thanks to leftist policies which kill economic growth.

            It is "Happy Days" only for the pampered fat public sector parasites.

            • 30 votes
            #5.2 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:31 AM EDT

            President Obama saved us from another great depression. That is a fact.

            • 17 votes
            #5.3 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:10 AM EDT

            Bob-1887910

            Same old song. Another economic Depression like the 1930s, thanks to leftist policies which kill economic growth.

            Positive private-sector job growth for 13 months in a row and 250,000 added last month isn't what most economists would call a "depression," as much as you connies would like to see America fail, if that's what it takes to make Obama fail.

            • 10 votes
            #5.4 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:16 AM EDT

            Bob: did your dog do its business in your wheaties this morning ? "Happy Days Are Here Again" was first published in 1929. It was made popular as the unofficial song of the FDR campaign. Like President Obama, FDR inherited an economic downturn begun during his predecessors time in office. Unlike President Hoover, President Bush did act to stave off a complete financial system collapse.

            Then, as now, there are many people who do work in the city, county, state and federal government. Then, as now, there are some who could be labled as parasites, i.e. the take from the host (taxpayers) and give nothing in return. I happen to think that the vast majority of people who work for our governments do contribute to society. Whether it is the policeman on the beat, the fireman, the teacher, the librarian, the water treatment worker, the social worker, the prosecutor, the nurses and doctors, and yes even the clerks in the assesors office all do contribute.

            If you believe that your government workers do not contribute, I suggest you take the initiative and run for office on the premise that you will eliminate those wasteful positions.

            • 12 votes
            #5.5 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:24 AM EDT

            Tom lives in California and thinks that "happy days" have returned... what better way to highlight a complete lack of knowledge(or caring) as Califonia has some of the worst budget problems in the union.

            • 12 votes
            #5.6 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:46 AM EDT
            Comment author avatarFeisty Redhead Roselle, ILExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

            Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL Comment collapsed by the community

            Good Morning Tom!

            Go Mr. President.

            I'm FIRED Up and Ready to GO! ;o)

            You think the nitwits are distraught now - just WAIT until President Obama wins by a landslide in 2012! lol

            • 8 votes
            #5.7 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:50 AM EDT

            Bob -

            Your right, Herbert Hoover put us into the great depression, Roosevelt got us out. Now Bush put us into this depression, President Obama will get us out. Watch and see. (Smile)

            • 14 votes
            #5.8 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 11:25 AM EDT

            Pajama -

            That's because we had a Republican Govener. It will get better now that we have a Democrat Governor.

            • 9 votes
            #5.9 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 11:35 AM EDT

            your right the bottom line is the rich part of this country..the top 2% would like to be filthy rich not just rich.and soon if they take power again...it will be a rich and poor country and no middle class important people like fireman,policeman and just your eveyday hard worker will not be paid what they deserve,just enough to keep the rich billionaires and not millionaires!!

            • 4 votes
            #5.10 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 3:40 PM EDT

            Wow.....a bunch of left wingnuts today. Hows that kool-aid taste? California has been run by democrats for the last 30 years. Doesnt matter if there are a few republicans holding seats, the FACT is that the dems have been making the decisions for CA for the last 3 decades. CA was doing great before they were running the show.

            • 2 votes
            #5.11 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 4:41 PM EDT

            mabe this time we will get it right. and we can get this country running correctly. everyone blames budgets on unions but how many banks are union and look how much "us" tax Payers had to pay to bail them out thanks obama.

              #5.12 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 4:42 PM EDT

              For the first time in my adult life, I will not be voting in the upcoming general election. Can't vote Republican - too many crazies. Can't vote Democrat - too many broken promises - and sidling up to crooks like BP. I'll sit this one out.

              • 1 vote
              #5.13 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 5:30 PM EDT

              It looks like First Read has Obama ahead already. 232 to 191. I guess they couldn't wait to post the number of states with electorial votes that show Democrat vs Republican.

              Neither democrat or republicans will decide the election in 2012. It will be all on the independent's shoulders. They will decide the election. For as much as the liberals want Obama to be re-elected, independents think differently. Most of your tea-party are independents so, up yours liberals! Keep showing the tea party your true colors and your hopes will be dashed in the ballot box.

              I love the way the liberals on this board think they are the kings of verse and verbage.... tossing out their liberal blogs and links... as if what they say will garner any support from us independents. For as much as I dislike the republican party, I can't stand the democrats. If you think for one minute my opinion is not shared by millions of independents, you have another thought coming. Just think back to the midterms. I haven't lost my fervor and neither has a lot of other independents. We are just beginning to dump democrats and the lead up to the election will prove how wrong the liberals are.

              I'm looking forward to the long faces on the liberals the day after the 2012 election as they wonder what happened. Independents rule this nation and the democrats have no hope of gaining much ground because we know who they are... and what they stand for.

              • 2 votes
              #5.14 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 5:32 PM EDT

              If you believe that your government workers do not contribute, I suggest you take the initiative and run for office on the premise that you will eliminate those wasteful positions.

              Problem with that is that he'd have to become one of those "government workers that do not contribute", just like the rest of the "Party of No". Politicians that do not contribute also do not try to eliminate their own positions.

              everyone blames budgets on unions but how many banks are union and look how much "us" tax Payers had to pay to bail them out thanks obama.

              The "Bank bailout" was signed into law by Bush Jr. before he left office. Yet another mess left by Bush for Obama to clean up.

              • 3 votes
              #5.15 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 5:36 PM EDT

              California Tom

              Your right, Herbert Hoover put us into the great depression, Roosevelt got us out. Now Bush put us into this depression, President Obama will get us out. Watch and see. (Smile)

              Yes CA Tom, and Moonbeam 2.0 and the unions will remove us from the deficit position and back into prosperity, right. Like CA Tom, the Democratic Spending Party created the CA fiscal position, and so did the liberals in DC. Do you really belive Obama will have a position when 2012 rolls around? Gas is already $4+ a gallon in the CA where I live, inflation is creeping up at the grocery store, the U6 is still in double digits for unemployment, and on the whole, the economy is tanked.

              When you see the econonmy, jobs, deficit as it is, you have to look at the numbers from when the Dems controlled the legislator to see WHO is accountable. Wait until the economy goes to the days of Carter, another progressive, then smile about who may be elected.

              As Schumer, good ole Chuckie said, we have to talk about extremes......let's talk about the Obama extremes since day one.

              • 1 vote
              #5.16 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 5:37 PM EDT

              Bob-1887910 "Positive private-sector job growth for 13 months in a row and 250,000 added last month"

              Yes, and just think - It's only been three months since the Republicans took over the House of Representatives. I guess businesses are a lot less concerned about any new job-killing legislation from Obama and the Democrats now.

                #5.17 - Tue Apr 5, 2011 7:14 PM EDT

                I've got news for you Roy. Business budgets are made months in advance. Mine was finalized in September, WELL before the election. At no point was the situation in Washington even discussed. Amazing that the party of business doesn't know this. It'd be a lot less amazing if they fully realize and are just lying about it.

                  #5.18 - Wed Apr 6, 2011 7:52 AM EDT
                  Reply

                  Who knew that President Obama would run for re-election in 2012. Maybe now the republicans will get busy and decide if they're in or out. The President has an excellent chance of winning in 2012. So far I have not seen a stand-out republican candidate plus they have allowed their fringe to take them so far to the right that finding their way to the middle in a general election will be nearly impossible. The anti-working class demonization of fire fighters, police officers, teachers by republicans governors and state legislators has voters, except the far right, realizing there really is a huge difference between the two parties. The lines were blurred for quite a few years but not any longer.

                  Gingrich is just raising money for his maybe campaign--he always talks about running but doesn't. He'll keep the money and continue earning his living off the possibility. Pawlenty and Romney are the only two who sound reasonable. Pawlenty has the least negative impression but he does not bring much enthusiasm to the campaign. Romney can run from his Romneycare but he can't hide--President Obama keeps reminding voters how Obamacare was modeled after Romneycare. Romney would have more credibility if he simply embraced his health care bill and sold it to the people. Of course, that can't be since the GOP has painted health care so negatively that Romney can't even embrace his greatest accomplishment as Governor of Massachusetts--one that has been highly successful in reducing costs for everyone.

                  Rand Paul was in Iowa over the weekend repeating his anti-Libya chatter. Sorry but he's a liar of the worse kind. He voted on March 1 supporting exactly what the President did in conjunction with the UN and now he claims otherwise. He even has his staff lying to cover his backside; nothing worse than a forked-tongue politician except one who has his staff lie to cover the double speak. Kentucky deserves better.

                  The idiot Florida pastor who burned the Quran is an example of free speech run amok. This man set off riots in Afghanistan which has resulted in deaths and he claims to be a tolerant man of God. These so called religious people do not realize that when they pull stunts like this--and it was a stunt to get attention and the media covered it--they play right into the hands of Al Qaeda and the Taliban.

                  • 21 votes
                  #7 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:31 AM EDT

                  You mean like all those RELIGOUS people in Afganistan that Killed Innocent people for what some dumb ass in Florida did? I would Argue that what the Idiot in Florida did . PALES in comparison to the Murder of Innocent people in Afganistan by RELIGIOUS Zealots

                  • 14 votes
                  #7.1 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:46 AM EDT

                  Lot like we couldn't see the reaction coming from miles away! He's got his 1'st Amendment rights! I've got mine and I'm going on record that HE"S AN A$$H@LE!!!!!!!

                  • 14 votes
                  #7.2 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:05 AM EDT

                  You try to sound like a moderate, but sound like another Soros bought boy....I didn't find out who all had funded jobama until after the last election, now I know we've been suckered by Soros, Rockefeller, Kluge (wonder who his successor was?) and lied to. I just wanted a different direction from Bush, not elitist socialism. The bought boy won't get my vote... ACORN and the rest of the machine can burn...

                  • 17 votes
                  #7.3 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:05 AM EDT

                  Auntie Fascist,

                  I think he is a AXXhole too. That still doesnt take away from the Fact that those Religious ZEALOTS over in Afganistan are the ones that MURDERED innocent people................ or perhaps you dont want to talk about the EXTREMIST MUSLIMS that actually killed people..

                  • 10 votes
                  #7.4 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:10 AM EDT

                  Auntie:

                  He's got his 1'st Amendment rights! I've got mine ....

                  The second part is something that right-wing religious zealots always seem to forget.

                  • 5 votes
                  #7.5 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:13 AM EDT

                  Anna Molly

                  So you think its a Great thing that MUSLIMS killed Innocent people? Are you a little bit outraged that they Murdered innocents?

                  • 10 votes
                  #7.6 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:17 AM EDT

                  OK, Steve, I'll concede the existence of radical Islam. They'll take any opportunity or excuse they can get. Did we need to have this anal orifice GIFT WRAP an excuse for them?

                  • 5 votes
                  #7.7 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:23 AM EDT

                  Auntie,

                  I wont argue with you about him being an Anal orrafice............ but what he did Pales in Comparison to what these Fanatics did. but i dont see you screaming as Loudly about what they did as you are about him burning a book..... seems your outrage would be more by people that Commit murder. People that Murder worry me alot more then people that burn books....

                  • 10 votes
                  #7.8 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:28 AM EDT

                  Ugly early today, it seems. Mention Al Qaeda and the Taliban and paranoia takes stage. Not every Muslim is an extremist. Not every Christian is an extremist. There are elements of extremism in both the Christian and the Islamic faiths. The Bible has some pretty radical beliefs expressed in it, too; but apparently that's acceptable.

                  Did I mention 9/11? Nope, thought not. Did I make excuses for the Afghanistan rioters who killed innocents? Nope. I mentioned the idea that some jerk bottom in Florida is an idiot and a hate monger and it is that so-called minister that gave the extremists an excuse, a talking point, gave them fuel to aid their efforts to paint the USA as anti-Islamic and undermine OUR efforts to defeat extremists and terrorists. And it's obvious by the comments here that idea escapes many.

                  • 8 votes
                  #7.9 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:48 AM EDT

                  You must understand, at least a little, what you may be dealing with. A gross generality, but with a very high probability of truth: the citizens of most arabic muslim countries tend to be undereducated, unstable and volatile, brainwashed from early childhood, perhaps infancy, by religious zealotry, easily manipulated by extremist mullahs and imams who have no qualms about selling them the snake oil promises of glorious martyrdom and the seduction of 72 virgins impatiently awaiting the martyr's arrival in the garden of allah.

                  One does not give a known pyromaniac 5 gallons of gasoline and a book of matches, what is exactly what that hairbrained idiot in Florida did. And , in so doing, he caused the death of a couple of Americans, who should not be there anyway, as well as the deaths of a number of innocent civilians.

                  Freedom of expression, as a guarantee of the first amendment, does carry with it certain responsibilities and each of us must be willing to bear those responsibilities before we open our mouths to utter a single syllable.

                  The media also must bear fault. Their irresponsible publicizing of this idiot's desperate grasping for his 15 minutes of fame for their "ratings", is absolutely despicable.

                  • 7 votes
                  #7.10 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 11:30 AM EDT

                  Jody. did i mention 9/11. NOPE Did you mention the RADICAL MUSLIMS IN YOUR POST. NOPE. the HATE FILLED MUSLIMS EXTREMIST TERRORIST THAT MURDERED INNOCENT PEOPLE.

                  Are you a MUSLIM JODY. is that why you take Exception to the Fact that i mentioned MUSLIMS. I mean After all it WAS MUSLIMS that MURDERED INNOCENT PEOPLE.

                  THE dumb ass Pastor in Florida all he did was Burn some paper. in the form of a Book.

                  You didnt Mention the MUSLIMS EXTREMIST at all. If you had . I would have Agreed with your post 100 percent. but i could only agree with 50 percent of it because you left out the MORE VIOLENT PART of it

                  • 6 votes
                  #7.11 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 11:32 AM EDT

                  Disgusted - Thank you for your post. Yes, the pastor certainly has First Amendment rights and can burn as many Qur'ans as he wants. But, as our soldiers have died, and are dying, protecting those right, we should use those rights responsibly.

                  Yes, I know that burning the Qur'an is his right, and he did not murder anyone, and the citizens in Afghanistan are the ones you committed this atrocity. However, as Secretary Gates, and other government officials, warned that the unstable, Islamic extremists could very well react in this manner, he was irresponsible to go through with the book burning.

                  I've received many complaints about similar posts that I have made, so I want to make it perfectly clear that the Islamic extremists are the ones responsible for this atrocity; they will use any excuse for violence. That being said, it was irresponsible for the pastor to burn the Qur'an after being warned about the possible consequences.

                  • 2 votes
                  #7.12 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 3:58 PM EDT

                  you guys mention muslim extremist??what about the extremists in our own backyard trying to overturn our middle class workers..we will have alot more to worry about than terror in our country if we put another right wing bimbo in office again

                  • 5 votes
                  #7.13 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 4:01 PM EDT

                  decerned in calif. - As a conservative Democrat, I have issues with unions. However, this overreach by these Republican governers is appalling. And, I do not begrudge the wealthy. In fact, I guess I am considered upper-middle class or wealthy. But, the middle class has been shrinking for some time, and I am worried for my children and grandchildren.

                  • 2 votes
                  #7.14 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 4:16 PM EDT

                  It’s way past time we stop deluding ourselves when it comes to income inequality in this country?

                  Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that America’s top economists are running around with their hair on fire? (Or whatever passes for it with economists.) Nobel Prize winner Joe Stiglitz in Vanity Fair sounds the alarm about growing economic inequality in America. I wonder if anyone in a position to do something about it is listening?

                  America’s inequality distorts our society in every conceivable way. There is, for one thing, a well-documented lifestyle effect—people outside the top 1 percent increasingly live beyond their means. Trickle-down economics may be a chimera, but trickle-down behaviorism is very real. Inequality massively distorts our foreign policy. The top 1 percent rarely serve in the military—the reality is that the “all-volunteer” army does not pay enough to attract their sons and daughters, and patriotism goes only so far. Plus, the wealthiest class feels no pinch from higher taxes when the nation goes to war: borrowed money will pay for all that. Foreign policy, by definition, is about the balancing of national interests and national resources. With the top 1 percent in charge, and paying no price, the notion of balance and restraint goes out the window. There is no limit to the adventures we can undertake; corporations and contractors stand only to gain. The rules of economic globalization are likewise designed to benefit the rich: they encourage competition among countries for business, which drives down taxes on corporations, weakens health and environmental protections, and undermines what used to be viewed as the “core” labor rights, which include the right to collective bargaining. Imagine what the world might look like if the rules were designed instead to encourage competition among countries forworkers. Governments would compete in providing economic security, low taxes on ordinary wage earners, good education, and a clean environment—things workers care about. But the top 1 percent don’t need to care.

                  http://www.google.com/search?q=vanity+fair+joseph+stiglitz&hl=en&prmd=ivnsuo&source=univ&tbs=nws:1&tbo=u&sa=X&ei=isKZTa28GcKW0QHQ-s3wCw&ved=0CEYQqAI

                  This is not the America I grew up in...

                  While the Teapublicans fight to defund NPR & Planned Parenthood the modern day robber barons are stealing this country blind!

                  • 4 votes
                  #7.15 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 5:31 PM EDT
                  Reply

                  So $4 trillion in cuts, block grant Medicaid and means test Medicare, but no cuts to Defense??

                  Laughable at best, and beyond pathetic.

                  • 11 votes
                  Reply#8 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:33 AM EDT
                  Comment author avatarJohn B, Des Moines, IAExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                  GMJ, it just shows that the only thing they're actually serious about is dismantling the social safety net. Defense will have to take reasonable cuts as well if there is to be any hope of getting the budget within balance, and revenue has to be on the table as well. Ryan's budget is really about the Republican plan to flood the market with newly unemployed to drive down wages.

                  HIGHER UNEMPLOYMENT AND LOWER WAGES -- ON PURPOSE.... About a month ago, I described the Republican economic plan as "higher unemployment, lower wages, and slower growth." It's worth appreciating the fact that (a) I meant that literally; and (b) occasionally, GOP officials will acknowledge their intentions.

                  Tim Fernholz and Jim Tankersley reported this week on a little-noticed report distributed by House Speaker John Boehner's (R-Ohio) office last week, summarizing the findings of the Republican staff of the Joint Economic Committee.

                  [T]he paper predicts that cutting the number of public employees would send highly skilled workers job hunting in the private sector, which in turn would lead to lower labor costs and increased employment. But "lowering labor costs" is economist-speak for lowering wages -- does the GOP want to be in the position of advocating for lower wages for voters who work in the private sector?

                  The report also touts the value of cutting "transfer payments," or subsidies, to private firms, suggesting cuts to Amtrak and ethanol support. But many Republicans back both of those objectives, and the GOP has long been a staunch defender of corporate subsidies through both spending and the tax code, including direct payments to agricultural firms.

                  Remember, independent economists, including some who have no sympathies for Democrats, have said the Republican spending cuts, if approved, would lead to roughly 700,000 job losses. (Told about making unemployment worse, John Boehner replied, "So be it.")

                  But the GOP plan isn't just to increase layoffs, at least in the short term, it's also to intended to make sure Americans are earning less money.

                  http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2011_03/028650.php

                  • 9 votes
                  #8.1 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:42 AM EDT

                  GMJ: So $4 trillion in cuts, block grant Medicaid and means test Medicare, but no cuts to Defense??

                  Obama and the Senate Democrats can come up with their own plan, and if they so choose, they can have defense cuts. So, just where is the Obama's and the Democrats plan? Think they'll ever produce one? I know, doubtful. Extremely doubtful.

                  And do recall, there are a lot of union jobs tied up in those defense appropriations. Think Obama will turn his back on the very unions that own him? He needs a billion dollars to have a chance of being re-elected, so it's doubtful Obama has any plans of giving up any union money.

                  • 14 votes
                  #8.2 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:50 AM EDT

                  JoAnna:

                  Think Obama will turn his back on the very unions that own him?

                  Yes, he's already done that. But he'd better be careful because, with the mood that unions are in right now, they may just return the favor.

                  • 2 votes
                  #8.3 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:10 AM EDT

                  Republicans campaigned on a platform of balancing the budget while cutting taxes if they won the House of Representatives.

                  All budgetary matters originate in the House.

                  It's the job of Republicans House leaders to come up with a responsible budget. The fact that they show no signs of doing so isn't the fault of Democrats. Apparently Conservatives are already assuming failure by their intense desire to pin their own failure on the opposition.

                  • 6 votes
                  #8.4 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:11 AM EDT

                  Think Obama will turn his back on the very unions that own him?

                  Yes.

                  Good Morning Anna Molly!

                  Help me out here, wasn't JoAnna one of the sycophants who only a few weeks ago was incessantly wailing about WHY the President wasn't marching with the union workers in WI?

                  I could of sworn it was her? Hmmm.....

                  • 9 votes
                  #8.5 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:15 AM EDT

                  Something is systematically amiss when it take "billions of dollars" to mount a campaign for any public office. It's time people just rejected the entire "pay to play" political system, it has became nothing more than an instrument of the wealthy for the wealthy with 98% of the country left voiceless.

                  • 19 votes
                  #8.6 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:23 AM EDT

                  John B, Des Moines, IA Comment collapsed by the community

                  GMJ, it just shows that the only thing they're actually serious about is dismantling the social safety net. Defense will have to take reasonable cuts as well if there is to be any hope of getting the budget within balance, and revenue has to be on the table as well. Ryan's budget is really about the Republican plan to flood the market with newly unemployed to drive down wages.

                  HIGHER UNEMPLOYMENT AND LOWER WAGES -- ON PURPOSE.... About a month ago, I described the Republican economic plan as "higher unemployment, lower wages, and slower growth." It's worth appreciating the fact that (a) I meant that literally; and (b) occasionally, GOP officials will acknowledge their intentions.

                  Tim Fernholz and Jim Tankersley reported this week on a little-noticed report distributed by House Speaker John Boehner's (R-Ohio) office last week, summarizing the findings of the Republican staff of the Joint Economic Committee.

                  [T]he paper predicts that cutting the number of public employees would send highly skilled workers job hunting in the private sector, which in turn would lead to lower labor costs and increased employment. But "lowering labor costs" is economist-speak for lowering wages -- does the GOP want to be in the position of advocating for lower wages for voters who work in the private sector?

                  The report also touts the value of cutting "transfer payments," or subsidies, to private firms, suggesting cuts to Amtrak and ethanol support. But many Republicans back both of those objectives, and the GOP has long been a staunch defender of corporate subsidies through both spending and the tax code, including direct payments to agricultural firms.

                  Remember, independent economists, including some who have no sympathies for Democrats, have said the Republican spending cuts, if approved, would lead to roughly 700,000 job losses. (Told about making unemployment worse, John Boehner replied, "So be it.")

                  But the GOP plan isn't just to increase layoffs, at least in the short term, it's also to intended to make sure Americans are earning less money.

                  http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2011_03/028650.php

                  • 5 votes
                  #8.7 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:51 AM EDT
                  Comment author avatarFeisty Redhead Roselle, ILExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                  It’s way past time we stop deluding ourselves when it comes to income inequality in this country?

                  Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that America’s top economists are running around with their hair on fire? (Or whatever passes for it with economists.) Nobel Prize winner Joe Stiglitz in Vanity Fair sounds the alarm about growing economic inequality in America. I wonder if anyone in a position to do something about it is listening?

                  America’s inequality distorts our society in every conceivable way. There is, for one thing, a well-documented lifestyle effect—people outside the top 1 percent increasingly live beyond their means. Trickle-down economics may be a chimera, but trickle-down behaviorism is very real. Inequality massively distorts our foreign policy. The top 1 percent rarely serve in the military—the reality is that the “all-volunteer” army does not pay enough to attract their sons and daughters, and patriotism goes only so far. Plus, the wealthiest class feels no pinch from higher taxes when the nation goes to war: borrowed money will pay for all that. Foreign policy, by definition, is about the balancing of national interests and national resources. With the top 1 percent in charge, and paying no price, the notion of balance and restraint goes out the window. There is no limit to the adventures we can undertake; corporations and contractors stand only to gain. The rules of economic globalization are likewise designed to benefit the rich: they encourage competition among countries for business, which drives down taxes on corporations, weakens health and environmental protections, and undermines what used to be viewed as the “core” labor rights, which include the right to collective bargaining. Imagine what the world might look like if the rules were designed instead to encourage competition among countries forworkers. Governments would compete in providing economic security, low taxes on ordinary wage earners, good education, and a clean environment—things workers care about. But the top 1 percent don’t need to care.

                  http://www.google.com/search?q=vanity+fair+joseph+stiglitz&hl=en&prmd=ivnsuo&source=univ&tbs=nws:1&tbo=u&sa=X&ei=isKZTa28GcKW0QHQ-s3wCw&ved=0CEYQqAI

                  This is not the America I grew up in...

                  While the Teapublicans fight to defund NPR & Planned Parenthood the modern day robber barons are stealing this country blind!

                  • 3 votes
                  #8.8 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 11:05 AM EDT

                  Thanks for the repost, Feisty. Seems the right-wing authoritarian censors are quite busy today.

                  Conservatives are quite desperate to keep people from finding out what they're REALLY doing.

                  • 5 votes
                  #8.9 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 12:11 PM EDT

                  Conservatives are quite desperate to keep people from finding out what they're REALLY doing.

                  They sure are! God forbid the stuck on stupid crowd is exposed to what's really going on! lol

                  • 4 votes
                  #8.10 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 12:29 PM EDT

                  You kidding me, cut the defense budget while we're in two wars and aiding a country with warplanes in a no-fly zone! If you look at our budget, social security costs as much as our defense budget so instead of taking bullets out of the guns of our soldiers overseas, we should take cuts at home in social security and raise the taxes of the top 2% of the rich. The trickle-down-effect theory played out by Reagan and Bush has failed. If we're gonna get our government back on its feet we need the wealthiest of our nation to play their part.

                    #8.11 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 12:51 PM EDT

                    i agree common sense!!,but taking from the retired and old won't cut it..they have used billions of dollars in building planes that sit in warehouses.what are they waiting for to use these jets,for another country to invade???the rich don't care about teachers and public schools and social security and security in police because their children all go to private schools and they have their own security for life.

                      #8.12 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 4:11 PM EDT

                      Beverly in Chicago

                      Beverly in Chicago Comment collapsed by the community

                      Copy Truth And Nothin' But

                      It is a busy day. Today is the day President Obama announces his re-election bid. He is not giving a speech; he'll be working. It's so nice to have a President who cares and works hard. You can see the stress in his face and the gray in his hair.

                      Another wonderful cut and paste job Bev, you are beginning to out do yourself. Obama busy - FORE on the third fairway!

                      Keep being a good troll Bev, and you may also join Feisty, feeding at the feet of Obama.

                        #8.13 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 5:45 PM EDT
                        Reply

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                          Reply#9 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:35 AM EDT

                          What a bunch of myopic sycophants...

                          • 5 votes
                          Reply#10 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:48 AM EDT

                          Nothing wrong with sycophancy when the object is worthy. Your side's problem is that you are unable to come up with even a single worthy object, and yet you have plenty of sycophants of your own.

                          • 12 votes
                          #10.1 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:57 AM EDT
                          Reply

                          Hmmmmmm......seems that ABC prefers Soros and his bought boy JObama to win...but I don't think that most moderates are going to vote leftist extremist this time...

                          • 12 votes
                          #11 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:50 AM EDT

                          Steiner,

                          You are correct. Moderates were Taken by the Lies of Obama. They wont be Fooled again.

                          • 19 votes
                          #11.1 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:56 AM EDT

                          Oh, I don't know. Try Wisconsin, and maybe Ohio, Michigan, Tennessee, and a few other states battered by conservatives who lie, and plenty of them. If Wisconsin was a swing state before 2011 began, it sure isn't anymore. Count it BIG blue.

                          By the way, I'll take our puny George Soros (46th in the world) any day over the Koch brothers (combined number 4 in the world) for billionaires whose roles I would care to model. They've bought a few of their own sycophants, like the governors of several states and a big share of Congress, and they like to keep their agenda secret, for VERY good reason.

                          • 11 votes
                          #11.2 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:01 AM EDT

                          Anna,

                          Redistricting is gonna be a B@tch for the Democrats in the 2012 elections..............

                          • 11 votes
                          #11.3 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:06 AM EDT

                          And reality is gonna be a B@tch for Republicans;

                          A new Rasmussen poll shows Walker’s approval rating is quickly shrinking and that Republicans may also be turning off young marrieds who have kids in schools. Not a good sign for Walker, the Wisconsin GOP or the branding of the GOP nationally. The poll lends credence to the likelihood that Republicans could be in the beginning of a process where the party is turning off independent voters, mobilizing and unifying the Democratic party base and further alienating the smaller number of more moderate Republicans in Wisconsin and elsewhere:

                          Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker won his job last November with 52% of the vote, but his popularity has slipped since then.

                          A new Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Wisconsin Voters finds that just 34% Strongly Approve of the job he is doing, while 48% Strongly Disapprove. Overall, including those who somewhat approve or disapprove, the new Republican governor earns positive reviews from 43% and negative reviews from 57% of voters statewide.

                          In addition to the usual partisan and demographic breakdowns, it’s interesting to note that Walker, now engaged in a budget battle with unionized state workers, receives a total approval rating of 46% from households with private sector union members.

                          However, among households with a public sector union member, only 19% offer their approval. Among all other households in the state, opinion is nearly evenly divided—49% favorable and 51% unfavorable.

                          In other words: he is turning some voters who might not be militantly against the GOP and willing to give the party’s ideas a chance against him …and his party.

                          http://themoderatevoice.com/103053/scott-walkers-approval-rating-now-43-winning-the-battle-and-losing-the-war/

                          Average Americans aready recognize the Conservative Republican war on the middle classs, and they're quickly becoming disenchanted.

                          • 5 votes
                          #11.4 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:14 AM EDT

                          Redistricting is gonna be a B@tch for the Democrats in the 2012 elections..............

                          Maybe, maybe not. We'll see how the recall elections go in Wisconsin before we make any predictions about re-districting. Republicans are back-pedaling almost everywhere. Right now, government has pretty much ground to a halt here; they can't even seem to get the votes right now to re-up on the bargaining bill.

                          • 3 votes
                          #11.5 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:14 AM EDT

                          Anna Molly

                          Republicans are not Back Pedaling anywhere. but it seems that Liberals believe that if they Scream loud Enough they will. Just because you say its so doesnt make it true. I didnt See Walker Back pedal on passing the Anti Union bill in Wisconsin. I didnt see Ohios Governor Back Pedal. I dont see the Republicans in Congress Back Pedaling. Seems like they are holding there ground to me

                          Now we must wait and see what happens with the TRO in Wisconsin. My guess is the judge will find that it was all done Legally when its finally heard..

                          • 10 votes
                          #11.6 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:23 AM EDT

                          They aren't back pedaling because they're stuck in a corner between angry citizens and their wealthy benefactors, with no escape that doesn't paint them as totally corrupt, incompetent, or as lying weasels;

                          But don’t expect to see a major shift:

                          “Republicans can’t turn back in Wisconsin,” says Mark Mix of the National Right to Work Foundation. “This will only embolden the unions and weaken efforts at reform all over the country.” It’s foolish to believe that backing down will satisfy the unions. If history is any guide, more than 90% of union money will be used to defeat Republicans no matter what happens.

                          The Washington Post’s Greg Sargent:

                          But there are two points worth making. The first is that the drumbeat of polls showing strong opposition to Walker’s rollback of bargaining rights may be starting to shift the landscape. The Journal report hints that Repubicans are growing nervous about opposition to Walker’s proposals among independents. The key here is that public opinion on this standoff has caught a lot of people off guard.

                          Also: If the reports above are true, that could bear out the notion, articulated to me earlier today by a spokesman for the Wisconsin Democratic Party, that Republicans are well aware that Walker’s impending layoffs could damage them more than Dems. Walker told the fake Koch on the prank call that he would be ratcheting up the layoff threat to pressure missing Dems into returning. But Dems are refusing to budge despite the fact that the layoff threat is now very real. And there are indications that the layoffs could exacerbate the current public opinion dynamic, rather than turn it around. That may well be spooking Republicans who continue to stand by Walker.

                          UPDATE, 4:41 p.m.: I should have added that the drive to recall GOP senators has also picked up in the last few days. So you have pressure on numerous fronts.

                          When you see a press narrative, live TV pictures and polls coming together to create one image it is very difficult for one force or infooutlet to turn it around. This could be a case where talk show hosts, Fox News, and partisan internet writers are unable to stem a growing perception that is seeping into public opinion..and quickly. So does the GOP try to shift, ram it through even faster, or cut its losses? Will Scott Walker turn out to be more like the 1990s over-reaching Newt Gingrich and not like his hero Ronald Reagan (who compromised and worked with the opposing party by the way)?

                          http://themoderatevoice.com/103053/scott-walkers-approval-rating-now-43-winning-the-battle-and-losing-the-war/

                          • 3 votes
                          #11.7 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:46 AM EDT

                          Seems like reality is already beyond the grasp of party-owned Dems, much like it was prior to the November elections.

                          "Obama's 'all-time low' approval rating"

                          "President Obama's approval rating has slumped to an "http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2011/03/30/2011-03-30_president_obamas_approval_ratings_hit_alltime_low_half_dont_think_he_deserves_se.html">all-time low," according to a new Quinnipiac poll. A mere 42 percent of American voters approve of the job Obama is doing, while 48 percent disapprove. It gets worse: Half of all voters say he does "not deserve to be re-elected in 2012," with only 41 percent saying that he does."

                          http://news.yahoo.com/s/theweek/20110330/cm_theweek/213690

                          • 5 votes
                          #11.8 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:54 AM EDT

                          I didnt See Walker Back pedal on passing the Anti Union bill in Wisconsin.

                          Actually, he is. If he had the votes, all he would have to do is pass it again with 24 hours' notice. And if he was so sure that he "published" the bill properly, then why did he back pedal by deciding to obey the judge's order not to implement it?

                          And if he was so sure that the state senators wouldn't be recalled, then what is he waiting for with the rest of his agenda?

                          • 3 votes
                          #11.9 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:55 AM EDT

                          No one man can resolve the disaster Obama was handed in four years. He is still cleaning up the mess and it will take much more then the time he's been in office so far. Bush (advisers) failed to see the Freddie Mac and Fannie collapse. It was Bush who decided to lead the US to war in a country with no mass weapons of destruction...and it was the United Nations which required us to use our technology to disrupt the Libyan no fly zone. Every time we get a president in there to "clean up" America panics and votes in another guy like Bush. I don't care about Clinton's personal issues, but he managed to clean up the deficit after an awful run with papa Bush. Yet knowing the reputation Bush jr. had for bankrupting a company and the state of TX, they still voted him in. You people are going to do it again.

                          • 2 votes
                          #11.10 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 11:47 AM EDT

                          Anna.

                          Because they already have a Law Passed. Why would they Bother WASTING MORE TAX PAYER MONEY on doing it over... thats just stupid (but liberals are good at wasting Money) The Democrats and Unions will lose this one. and Scott Walker will have Saved the Tax payer Money but not doing something over that they have already done.

                          Again just waiting on the Hearing to Confirm that Republicans did it right

                          • 5 votes
                          #11.11 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 11:47 AM EDT

                          By the way, I'll take our puny George Soros (46th in the world) any day over the Koch brothers (combined number 4 in the world) for billionaires whose roles I would care to model.

                          "But in the last decade, it's also worth noting the Kochs have given more than $600 million in pledged or donated money to arts, education, and medical research, including (but not limited to):

                          New York-Presbyterian Hospital Weill Cornell: $15 million

                          M.D. Anderson Cancer Center: $25 million

                          The Hospital for Special Surgery: $26 million

                          Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center: $30 million

                          Prostate Cancer Foundation: $41 million

                          Deerfield Academy: $68 million

                          Lincoln Center's NY State Theater: $100 million

                          Massachusetts Institute of Technology: $139 million"

                          www.politicsdaily.com/2010/09/02/koch-brothers-give-more-to-charity-than-to-right-wing-causes/

                          What has Soros done?

                          • 6 votes
                          #11.12 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 11:49 AM EDT

                          And yet organizations that DON'T have a direct link to Rupert Murdoch STILL show President Obama with a better approval rating than Clinton or Reagan at this point in their terms. http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Approval-Center.aspx

                          Even a cross section of all the major polls shows the President almost exactly at the level of support he was seeing a year ago, even with Foxmussen working hard to swamp the results with a barrage of negatively-biased reports in a very short time span. Hover over the dots and you'll see Rassmussen with a new poll virtually every day. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/06/jobapproval-obama_n_726319.html

                          • 2 votes
                          #11.13 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 12:18 PM EDT

                          Just remember your buddy obama doesn't really care about you. Just your votes!

                          • 7 votes
                          #11.14 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 12:31 PM EDT

                          Are your buddies the Koch brothers looking out for us? I'll take someone who's trying to work on behalf of the middle class over the "let them eat cake" crowd any time.

                          • 3 votes
                          #11.15 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 1:15 PM EDT

                          Well johnny - If your buddy obama gets relected. Then you democrats certainly get what you desvere!

                          How's your "Hope and Change" and false promises and lies from your messiahs mouth been working out for you?

                          Time to change the guard in the white house next year!

                          • 4 votes
                          #11.16 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 1:23 PM EDT

                          If you can show me what proposals coming from the Republicans that would support your statement, what facts on the Republicans campaign platform that would convince progessives to lean to the right, and what reputable candidates the Republicans have for 2012, I'll vote Republican. Until then, keep thinking, I can wait.

                          • 3 votes
                          #11.17 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 1:28 PM EDT

                          Again with the "messiah" narrative. No one calls the President that except Conservatives. I wonder why?

                          Oh yeah, it's a dog-whistle term meant to stir up Religious Conservatives with mental pictures of false prophets and the Antichrist.

                          Surely Conservatives wouldn't be that dishonest, would they? Oh yeah, they'd be EXACTLY that dishonest. http://o.bamapost.com/

                          • 3 votes
                          #11.18 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 1:39 PM EDT

                          Alan, NJ

                          What has Soros done?


                          è Refugees International "generates lifesaving humanitarian assistance and protection for displaced people around the world and works to end the conditions that create displacement.

                          è Provided funds to help black students attend the University of Cape Town in apartheid South Africa

                          è Funded dissident movements behind the iron curtain.

                          è Funded efforts to promote non-violent democratization in the post-Soviet states

                          è donated $35 million to the state of New York to be ear-marked for under-privileged children

                          è gave to parents who had benefit cards at the rate of $200 per child aged 3 through 17, with no limit as to the number of children that qualified

                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros

                          On the other hand, the Koch brothers increased Wealth by $9 Billion Last Year As They Fund Laws to Make Working Class Poorer .

                          The Koch Industries business empire isinextricably linked to carbon pollution. Koch refineries specialize in high-carbon crude, Koch fertilizer plants emit large amounts of carbon dioxide, and its manufacturing plants are particularly harmful. Just as Koch fundedopposition to acid rain regulations using “libertarian” fronts in 1990, the current $50 million Koch-funded campaign to deny climate change is an effort to allow Koch Industries to pollute for free.

                          The Koch brothers don’t want to be held accountable for being behind the scenes. They don’t want to be exposed either.

                          1. a. Oil spills: fined $30 million in 2000 to resolve claims related to 300 oil spills across America
                          2. b. Anti-worker/union
                          3. c. Anti-healthcare
                          4. d. Anti-immigration
                          5. e. Foreclosures
                          6. f. keeping corporate money in elections
                          7. g. fightin net neutrality

                          Check it out: http://goo.gl/Lua4t

                          http://www.americanprogressaction.org/issues/2011/04/koch_brothers.html

                          So the difference there is Soros wants to help and the Kochs want to destroy poor people and the planet.

                          • 1 vote
                          #11.19 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 1:52 PM EDT

                          You know Bev, those links you post are no different than me using Glenn Beck or some other right wing loon. All I'm saying is Soros is as dirty as any other billionaire that made his money by almost destroying a country's economy. Do you actually know how many people lost their jobs because of the recession in the UK that he helped cause? BTW they were working people.

                          The only reason I posted the Koch Brothers philanthropy was to illustrate how it's not all black and white the way these people are portrayed.


                          George Soros Quotes

                          "It's not whether you're right or wrong that's important, but how much money you make when you're right and how much you lose when you're wrong."

                          "I rely a great deal on animal instincts."

                          "Playing by the rules, one does the best he can, irrespective of the social consequences. Whereas in making the rules, people ought to be concerned with the social consequences and not with their personal interests."

                          www.investopedia.com/university/greatest/georgesoros.asp

                          Yep...he's a real humanitarian.

                          • 1 vote
                          #11.20 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 2:25 PM EDT

                          wow, i have to give it to the right wing republicans they can manipulate the middle class union worker to vote against themselves..or are all these people we are hearing from the top 1% of the country??obama shows all signs of getting the country back on its feet..it takes more than 2 years to clean up the mess he was given

                          • 3 votes
                          #11.21 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 4:28 PM EDT

                          It’s way past time we stop deluding ourselves when it comes to income inequality in this country?

                          Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that America’s top economists are running around with their hair on fire? (Or whatever passes for it with economists.) Nobel Prize winner Joe Stiglitz in Vanity Fair sounds the alarm about growing economic inequality in America. I wonder if anyone in a position to do something about it is listening?

                          America’s inequality distorts our society in every conceivable way. There is, for one thing, a well-documented lifestyle effect—people outside the top 1 percent increasingly live beyond their means. Trickle-down economics may be a chimera, but trickle-down behaviorism is very real. Inequality massively distorts our foreign policy. The top 1 percent rarely serve in the military—the reality is that the “all-volunteer” army does not pay enough to attract their sons and daughters, and patriotism goes only so far. Plus, the wealthiest class feels no pinch from higher taxes when the nation goes to war: borrowed money will pay for all that. Foreign policy, by definition, is about the balancing of national interests and national resources. With the top 1 percent in charge, and paying no price, the notion of balance and restraint goes out the window. There is no limit to the adventures we can undertake; corporations and contractors stand only to gain. The rules of economic globalization are likewise designed to benefit the rich: they encourage competition among countries for business, which drives down taxes on corporations, weakens health and environmental protections, and undermines what used to be viewed as the “core” labor rights, which include the right to collective bargaining. Imagine what the world might look like if the rules were designed instead to encourage competition among countries forworkers. Governments would compete in providing economic security, low taxes on ordinary wage earners, good education, and a clean environment—things workers care about. But the top 1 percent don’t need to care.

                          http://www.google.com/search?q=vanity+fair+joseph+stiglitz&hl=en&prmd=ivnsuo&source=univ&tbs=nws:1&tbo=u&sa=X&ei=isKZTa28GcKW0QHQ-s3wCw&ved=0CEYQqAI

                          This is not the America I grew up in...

                          While the Teapublicans fight to defund NPR & Planned Parenthood the modern day robber barons are stealing this country blind!

                          • 2 votes
                          #11.22 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 5:32 PM EDT

                          Why is there always so much spam from the same users on this "First Read" message board? Every day (or rather article) it is the same people who post the same "comments" which really aren't their own comments but rather a regurgitation of some blog post or opinion piece.

                          These people wonder why they are collapsed? Maybe because the links and articles you post don't pertain to the article that is being presented? There is nary an original thought, yet these same people post on EVERY article with the SAME garbage!

                          I haven't collapsed any of those comments but perhaps a level of moderation is needed if we truly want an exchange of ideas and not an exchange of other people's ideas, thoughts, opinions, etc.

                          I suggest someone look up the definition of spam and post it here. While my comment is not on topic either, I had no intention of contacting MSNBC or Newsvine or whoever just to be shuffled off with a simple, "Thank you for your concern, we are looking into the issue."

                          Opportunists. I care not whether your opinion leans right or left simply that it is your own so that we can come together and discuss instead of being shouted down or bogged down by repetitive nonsense.

                          WE GET IT! You don't like a collective group of citizens! Now discuss the issue at hand!

                          Good day.

                          • 1 vote
                          #11.23 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 5:51 PM EDT

                          That comparison of the charity of Koch Bros. vs. the charity of Soros was interesting.

                          The Koch charities are ones benefiting themselves, like the theaters they attend, the schools their kids go to, even the PBS shows they like to watch - or may benefit them in the future, like the medical research on cancers and diseases that old white guys are prone to.

                          The Soros charities benefit others, especially the poor and downtrodden, with little or no benefit to Soros himself.

                          Both Koch and Soros do good with their charities, no complaints there, but somehow Soros seems a lot more noble in his giving.

                          • 2 votes
                          #11.24 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 6:21 PM EDT

                          decerned - many economist mark an end of a recession as one that has two consecutive quarters of growth in the GDP. if we follow your assumption of 2 years to fix the mess then bush along with bipartisan support from a democratically controlled congress had already started the ball rolling to bring us out of the recession in 2007 or 2008 at the latest. when the 2009 stimulas ran out of money our GDP declined and has been bumping along at ~ 3% thru 2010.

                          Since obama has had no job creation plan in 2010 (to busy working on obamacare, wall st reform, government job preservation and business bashing), it would appear that only the FED has had any plans of action for stimulateing the economy via QE1 and QE2 during 2010.

                            #11.25 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 6:26 PM EDT

                            american, the recession BEGAN in the 2nd half of 2007. As far as jobs growth is concerned here's a graphic that really illustrates just how deep a hole the failure of Republican deregulation and trickle down economics dug for us. http://www.pensitoreview.com/2010/04/03/job-growth-improves-under-obama-as-bush-recession-continues/

                              #11.26 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 6:39 PM EDT

                              Gundy 75 - FR refuses to monitor postings like other monitors do on other newsvine blogs. Perhaps if Sally or tyler visited these FR postings, better posts would be forthcoming.

                              Cm 69 - from your analysis of charitable giving by the Kochs and soras you seem rather biased on the subject of giving. You imply that the Kochs only give to benefit themselves directly and not to organizations that benefit many.

                              Funny how the arts benefits everyone including those you so graciously insult as being downtrodden and poor. Naturally the kochs tell PBS what shows to fun and BTW give us back our $$$ if any is left over. Is that what you believe?

                              Rather telling on you narrowmindedness when you further negate Kochs contributions because...

                              may benefit them in the future, like the medical research on cancers and diseases that old white guys are prone to.

                              Why can't cancer and health research go across lines of income whether the patient is rich or poor? Think the kochs put conditions on the research that only the wealthy buds of koch will benefit?

                                #11.27 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 6:48 PM EDT

                                Johnb - So you are using the famous bikini graph. how does that address my comments to decerned in caili on his two year delay? It doesn't.

                                How does reagans "trickle down" from the 80's aplly to a totally different type of economy in the first decade of the 21st century? it doesn't.

                                Other than the FEDS QE1 and QE2 what has obama done in 2010 to stimulate the economy?

                                Care to share how he brokered the deal with Boeing and GE to close contracts already in progress with India and China. How about new trade agreements with china and S korea. oooops, don't think that happened either. Obanas best effort came during the lame duck session in 4 qtr 2010 when he embraced republican standards of giving tax breaks, credits and incentives to business for private sector expansion, let alone giving everyone more discretionary income to spend.

                                As honeywell CEO David Cote said...

                                The U.S. economy will continue to improve during at least the next three, four, maybe five, years, Cote said. The best way for government to create jobs is to build an environment amenable to hiring

                                http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-31/u-s-must-cut-entitlements-to-slash-deficit-honeywell-ceo-says.html

                                  #11.28 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 7:12 PM EDT

                                  I'm sorry, american, just saying "no it isn't" only works here; http://www.montypython.net/scripts/argument.php

                                  But that isn't exactly real life, is it? If you think my evidence is inapplicable in spite of demonstrating exactly what I've stated feel free to tell me why. I've presented my evidence, you've said "no it isn't."

                                  What makes you think the Republican philosophy of "trickle down" has changed since the time of Reagan? The majority of Bush's tax cuts went to the top 2%. Only in December a filibuster by Republicans forced retention of a $70B/yr temporary tax cut aimed entirely at the top 2%. Every day someone on on FR whines "did a poor person ever give you a job?" The approach hasn't changed in the slightest though it's been a proven loser for DECADES.

                                  Then you go on and quote a rich guy who says the poor have it entirely too good. The Conservative philosophy in a nutshell.

                                    #11.29 - Tue Apr 5, 2011 10:19 AM EDT
                                    Reply

                                    Paul Ryan is neither courageous nor suicidal -- like most conservatives, he is merely clueless, and oblivious as to how all the short-sighted conservative economics that we have practiced for the past 30 years or so have led us straight to where we are today. He is also ambitious.

                                    "Yond Cassius has a lean and hungry look; he thinks too much, such men are dangerous." -- Shakespeare said that (Julius Caesar, I, ii)

                                    It's time for conservatives to face up to this simple truth: When you keep putting your eggs into the wrong basket, you will NOT get an omelet. Destroying Medicare and Medicaid will not bring you a better society. But finding better ways to pay for them just might.

                                    • 12 votes
                                    #12 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:55 AM EDT

                                    So AM, please post the Democrats plan to reduce the deficit, provide entitlement reform, modernize tax policy, and pay down the national debt. But please, don't hurt yourself trying, there is no such plan, and there never will be. It will just be more empty rhetoric like yours, being critical of others, but no plan of you own to point to. It's much easier for the likes of you to call others "clueless" like you do to Ryan than it is to come up with your own plan. That would be work, that would be politically risky, that would actually be doing your job, and that's not the Liberal way.

                                    • 9 votes
                                    #12.1 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:09 AM EDT

                                    You see AM, Conservatives have made the error of believing their own propaganda...and because there's no real plan that has a hope of working there is nothing BUT the propaganda.

                                    Some Conservatives seem to have an inkling of this. That's why they're trying to avoid responsibility for the job the ASKED the American voter to give them, and even deflect responsibility for much of what they're already done onto Democrats. It won't work, buyers remorse is everywhere you look.

                                    • 8 votes
                                    #12.2 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:17 AM EDT

                                    Extremely disengenuous, Anna Molly.

                                    You can talk all you like about how dreadful Ryan's plan is. But where is the Democrats' plan for finding "better ways to pay for them"?

                                    President Obama issues an executive order creating a bipartisan debt commission, receives their report and Plan to address the debt crisis, then issues a FY 2012 budget proposal suggesting that $13 trillion in new gross debt will be added over the next 10 years to the $14 trillion already on the books, with debt service payments approaching $1 trillion annually.

                                    We have the debt commission's Plan...we'll soon have Paul Ryan's plan.

                                    Where's President Obama's plan?

                                    Where's the Congressional Democrats' plan?

                                    • 9 votes
                                    #12.3 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:22 AM EDT

                                    AnnaMolly:

                                    Since you know so much, why don't you tell us your plan for fixing this economy since everyone else is so clueless.

                                    Just running your mouth as usual, exactly what most PARALEGALS do.

                                    • 11 votes
                                    #12.4 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:24 AM EDT

                                    The "likes of me"? And good morning to you, too.

                                    It's not MY job, JoAnna, and I never said the democrats were doing theirs either. But since you asked, MY plan would be to go back to square one, figure out what our REAL priorities are, and then develop sensible ways, including taxation, to address and fund the REAL priorities. That's always been MY plan. And that used to be how it worked. But somehow we've forgotten that taxes are a means, not an end. And for the past 20 years or so, taxes are just about the only end, besides war and women's reproductive rights, that republicans can wrap their minds around.

                                    And I might remind you that, while we keep going down this road, nothing of any substance has gotten any better. NOTHING.

                                    Now, feel free to have a nice day disparaging the rest of your neighbors.

                                    • 6 votes
                                    #12.5 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:28 AM EDT

                                    exactly what most PARALEGALS do.

                                    Wrong, as usual. Talk about clueless. But about on par for disparaging emptiness.

                                    • 6 votes
                                    #12.6 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:28 AM EDT

                                    Extremely disengenuous, Anna Molly.

                                    Et tu, Brutus? I thought we had a deal.

                                    • 4 votes
                                    #12.7 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:31 AM EDT

                                    Anna Molly: It's not MY job, JoAnna

                                    Not your job? So what is your job, to be critical of any plan that reduces the role of government? Your party, the Democrats, have no plan Anna. All this bs your party has put out about the Republicans being the "Party of No" just went up in huge flames. The true party of "No" is the Democrats and Obama. They are the ones, just like yourself, that sit there and are critical of others, while at the same time, they produce NO plan of their own. Reid and his Democrats in the Senate can't even pass a bill that reduces spending by one single thin dime!

                                    Not your job. That is just pathetic.

                                    • 6 votes
                                    #12.8 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:40 AM EDT

                                    You're an attorney, Anna Molly.

                                    Read our contract.

                                    I believe I'm within my rights.

                                    :-]

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #12.9 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:47 AM EDT

                                    Republicans control the House. They control all the committees. They control all debate on the floor. They control the votes. It's their job to produce a budget. A budget that hasn't even been released and already Conservatives are trying to deflect voter anger away from themselves. Pretty telling about how they rate their own performance.

                                    • 6 votes
                                    #12.10 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:54 AM EDT

                                    Bag Boy:

                                    You're an attorney, Anna Molly.

                                    Tell that to ITM, who evidently does not believe.

                                    But ... I went back and reviewed the fine print, and sure enough, I believe you may be right about the contract. Mea culpa.

                                    JoAnna:

                                    So what is your job, to be critical of any plan that reduces the role of government? Your party, the Democrats, have no plan Anna.

                                    Did I dispute that, JoAnna? It's my party, and I'll cry if I want to.

                                    But what's YOUR job, other than to be critical of ANYTHING the other side says?

                                    And how much does that pay, anyway? Because that's easy. At least I criticize my own side once in a while ... and more and more often nowadays. You should try it, too.

                                    But you'd have to take off those blinders first.

                                    • 7 votes
                                    #12.11 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 11:02 AM EDT

                                    AM: At least I criticize my own side once in a while ... and more and more often nowadays. You should try it, too.

                                    Until your side has anything resembling an economic plan, you best sit down and be quiet my dear. You want to be critical, be critical of your own side for being delinquent and devoid of any plan. You're the one with blinders on, you can't see the trees for the forest.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #12.12 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 11:15 AM EDT

                                    No, I can see the trees, JoAnna, just fine. Always have. I have been complaining about Congress for the past 15 years or more. And I've done my share of complaining about the President, too. Beginning almost two years ago. You just haven't been listening. In fact, I don't even think you read my initial reply to you, where I admitted that democrats don't have a plan either.

                                    Not liking Paul Ryan doesn't mean I'm defending democrats. Nor does the fact that democrats have no plan require me to be quiet if I disagree with the republican plan -- if you call Paul Ryan's ideas a plan.

                                    As smart as you are, I'm sure you know that much, if you know anything at all.

                                    • 5 votes
                                    #12.13 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 11:24 AM EDT

                                    Has "your" side had a good plan lately? Last time I checked the deficit has been escalating, regardless of who was at the helm. There's more than one person who can't see, look in the mirror.

                                    • 5 votes
                                    #12.14 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 11:36 AM EDT

                                    ME? How many times do I have to say I'm not defending the democrats? I know they have no plan. And every day that goes by just makes it that much worse. Period.

                                    • 4 votes
                                    #12.15 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 12:34 PM EDT

                                    i can hardly wait for more [ 14 ] trillion in debt,[3 ] wars ,gas @ 4.50 a gal. and rising, insurance going up because of obama-care ,the decisiveness on the gulf oil spill,afghanist an,the budget. oh ! be still my heart, we have to have [ 4 ] more year of jimmy carter 11 .he believes everthing the msm says ,oh yeah ? i forgot they are the ones who stuck us with that loser.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #12.16 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 1:07 PM EDT

                                    When someone serves up a pile of dung and calls it a plan for America's future, if the many people who rise up and call it a pile of dung do not have a plan of their own, that does not change the fact that the plan issued is a pile of dung.

                                    Pointing out that their is not (yet) an alternative does not change what this plan is.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #12.17 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 1:59 PM EDT

                                    dirp101

                                    Are you talking about the Plan from the President's deficit commission, or the Ryan plan?

                                    Because both are better than the plan outlined in President Obama's FY 2012 budget proposal....which is REAL a pile of dung! $13 trillion in new debt and debt service payments approaching $1 trillion/yr? You must be joking, Mr. President.

                                    I'm guessing that privately, President Obama might agree with me on that...if nothing else. lol

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #12.18 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 3:20 PM EDT

                                    you can say all you want about president obama,everyone has their oppinion,but it really reeks of the fact that if we had a white president we would probably be on the same page on issues..i believe that this country wasn't ready to set aside their racial beliefs for a black president to be commander and chief at this point or any other time..that shows how ignorant our society is.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #12.19 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 4:42 PM EDT

                                    decerned in calif.-

                                    LouisJ will conduct your orientation here at First Read.

                                    LouisJ?

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #12.20 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 4:54 PM EDT

                                    dirp101 If you don't dream big, whats the point of even submitting a budget for discussion. If the obstructionist democrats want to block the budget fine! It will be easy enough to remind the voters in 2012.

                                    Obamas dream budget for FY 2012 wants to have $1.1 trillion debt reduction in discretionary cuts, freezes and tax increases over the next 10 years. The republicans want $4.4 trillion in debt reduction over ten years.

                                    What's the problem, sounds like both have a plan. Now, can the democrat legislative members come up with a compromise between the two?

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #12.21 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 7:27 PM EDT
                                    Reply

                                    Methinks there's an Ethiopian in the fuel supply!

                                    • 1 vote
                                    Reply#13 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:59 AM EDT

                                    FR gushing over media darling Paul Ryan's budget proposals:

                                    It’s courage because Ryan is seriously addressing entitlement reform, which is something that President Obama’s budget didn’t touch at all.

                                    It's not courage and it's not serious. It's cowardice. With tax rates the lowest they have been in 60 years, Ryan won't dare not mention raising anyone's taxes, especially his corporate masters. Contrary to what the Republicans yammer endlessly, America doesn't have a spending problem; it has a revenue problem, as this chart prepared by the nonpartisan Center on Budget and Policy Priorities shows:

                                    http://i.huffpost.com/gen/263031/DEBT-DRIVERS.jpg

                                    • 11 votes
                                    Reply#14 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:03 AM EDT

                                    EXACTLY!! And good morning, Houston.

                                    • 5 votes
                                    #14.1 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:06 AM EDT

                                    "With tax rates the lowest they have been in 60 years"

                                    You lie! That is 100% false. Tax rates are very high..and the tax code is rigged by insiders, to favor corporations which toe the Obama line, like GE.

                                    The amount of tax receipts is low, thanks to Obama's failed socialist policies which tanked the economy.

                                    • 10 votes
                                    #14.2 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:13 AM EDT

                                    Sorry Rep. Wilson, your outburst is once again out of order.

                                    Federal, state and local income taxes consumed 9.2% of all personal income in 2009, the lowest rate since 1950, the Bureau of Economic Analysis reports. That rate is far below the historic average of 12% for the last half-century. The overall tax burden hit bottom in December at 8.8.% of income before rising slightly in the first three months of 2010.

                                    http://bonddad.blogspot.com/2011/02/tax-burden-lowest-in-50-years.html

                                    • 10 votes
                                    #14.3 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:20 AM EDT

                                    Bob-1887910

                                    You lie! That is 100% false. Tax rates are very high..and the tax code is rigged by insiders, to favor corporations which toe the Obama line, like GE.

                                    You're nuts.

                                    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20002548-503544.html

                                    Reid was referring to the impact of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, otherwise known as the stimulus -- essentially, the only Obama policy to really impact people's 2009 tax returns. In fact, tax refunds reached an all-time high this year in part because of the stimulus, the president said in his weekly address on Saturday. Meanwhile, taxes are at their lowest levels in 60 years, according to William Gale, co-director of the Tax Policy Center and director of the Retirement Security Project at the Brookings Institution.

                                    This article was from last year, but nothing has changed for most people except that the Obama "Making Work Pay" tax credit was small for 2010.

                                    • 9 votes
                                    #14.4 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:21 AM EDT

                                    When I started working in the tax field in the 70s, the maximum federal income tax rate was 70%. There was a 50% maximum on earned income (wages and business profits of individuals).

                                    Hey, Bob - "clues for $200, Alex"!!!!!!!

                                    • 5 votes
                                    #14.5 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 11:40 AM EDT

                                    You lie! That is 100% false. Tax rates are very high..and the tax code is rigged by insiders, to favor corporations which toe the Obama line, like GE.

                                    Yet another outburst from the reality challenged. Tax rates haven't changed since the last Bush tax cut, thanks to Obama caving in to Republican demands that the Bush tax cuts be extended another year. Yes, GE paid very little in taxes, but that's due to tax loopholes put in by Republicans to benefit big corporations - like GE.

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #14.6 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 7:32 PM EDT

                                    Houston - got a few questions about your graph...

                                    If obamas tax cuts are scheduled to expire in or after 2012 why does the graph still project a growing deficit/debt?

                                    Why does the Economic turndown still showing growth after 2014?

                                    Why is tarp, arra and iraq/afganistan war still there?

                                    I notice that with a return of employment numbers over the next 5 years (and its resultant increase of revenue? the deficit/debt is still growing,

                                    Seems to me that just increasing taxes will not be enough. Spending cuts will be required as well to obtain a sustainable fiscal budget.

                                    The last question pertains to the date of the graphs data. If the graph does not reflect 2011 updated numbers why are yo even posting it in support of your argument?

                                    BTW - ever stop to consider what the general populace does when confronting the issue of facing more debt at the end of the month than cash? Doesn't one either cut discretionary spending first or look for a second job?

                                      #14.7 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 7:58 PM EDT
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                                      Not being a member of any party, I have this to say: If the President cared as much about the countries money as he does his campaign funds we might not be in such a mess. Obama is at the top of the "ME FACTOR".

                                      • 13 votes
                                      Reply#15 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:04 AM EDT

                                      Why is Obama looking more and more like an extension of Dubya? $750 million. That is the amount he received in 2008. The liberals are saying all that is from $5-$20 donations from working John and Jane Doe. LOL

                                      • 5 votes
                                      #16 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:05 AM EDT

                                      Or you could try looking at the reports filed by the campaign to see where the money came from instead of just insinuating.

                                      Why don't you do that, and then come back and report?

                                      • 8 votes
                                      #16.1 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:07 AM EDT

                                      Or you can do some math to determine it is NOT possible to acculumlate $750 million from half of registered voters, and they are the only who are involved enough to contribute. Maybe GE and the insurance companies had something to do with it. And the endorsement by the Trilateral Commission (David Rockefeller) must carried with it some favors for Big Oil.

                                      • 6 votes
                                      #16.2 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:12 AM EDT

                                      Sorry JobSeeker, you need facts to play the game, all you've given is an unsupported opinion. That may fly on talk radio, but expect to be called on it here. If you think President Obama didn't get a huge volume of donations from small donors prove it.

                                      • 6 votes
                                      #16.3 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:22 AM EDT
                                      Comment author avatarchuck-3051585Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                      Ya watch how his support comes from welfare checks, cashed in food-stamp, drug money from our black neighborhoods Oh and his Muslim brother hood...

                                      • 3 votes
                                      #16.4 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:26 AM EDT

                                      John,

                                      This is not the IRS where you are guilty until you can prove you are innocent. If you tell me I am wrong, then you have to present facts to prove me wrong. I don't think you have the numbers to support your claim. Back to my initial point. Doesn't it bother you that Obama is Dubya all over again, from war mongering, to deficit spending, to corporate bailouts, to Patriot Act, to Gitmo, to tax cuts for the rich?

                                      • 6 votes
                                      #16.5 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:33 AM EDT

                                      No, this is debate, where if you're going to take a position you should be prepared to prove and defend that position. Instead you're just regurgitating talk radio blather.

                                      Thanks for playing.

                                      • 5 votes
                                      #16.6 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:56 AM EDT

                                      You go first. Give me a reliable source that provides the percentage of donations to the Obama campaign that are $20 or less and I'll shut up. And I'm not talking about Michael Kinsley said so in a oped in the NYT.

                                      • 2 votes
                                      #16.7 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 11:44 AM EDT

                                      Let’s assume you are correct and that all of Obama’s donors were the little guys and gals. That means Obama is in worse shape than he can imagine because they are the ones who will vote in 2012. Do you think they are happy with the hope and change so far? I believe they are tired of seeing the same things from Obama for which they were pissed at Bush. He has been Carter and Bush rolled into one.

                                      • 2 votes
                                      #16.8 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 12:10 PM EDT

                                      JobSeeker

                                      What the hell are you talking about.The president only gave in to the teabaggers tax cuts to rich and corporations so people like me who lost my job in October so I could get umemployment.Worked for 27 years and never had to apply for it.The good old boys played the give me mine or poor middle class can go screw themselves.He maned up and did the right thing. Next election he will have the majority.The young kids like my daughter and son are pissed at this tea bag crap.Watch out in 2012,the tital wave is coming.

                                      • 5 votes
                                      #16.9 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 1:50 PM EDT

                                      lets hope dave-d

                                        #16.10 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 4:48 PM EDT

                                        Or you can do some math to determine it is NOT possible to acculumlate $750 million from half of registered voters, and they are the only who are involved enough to contribute

                                        Well, lets see. The US population is about 380 million, if we assume the average contribution is $100, then to get $750 million would take about 2% of the total population contributing. Of course, some of those are non-voters, but even if we use a rather pessimistic estimate of 10% of the population is voters, it would still only be 20% of voters - far less than the number of voters that actually voted for him.

                                        And that's just a rough "back of the envelope" estimate. Imagine what actual statistics would reveal!

                                        • 2 votes
                                        #16.11 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 7:45 PM EDT

                                        jobseeker - JohnB is totally incapable of posting a rebuttal. He is merely a parrot of the left wing radical opinionators. Along with Bev if he can't find a cut and paste rebuttal he remains silent or expects you "prove" your point. Never mind the fact that for many, lifes experiences have come about by the cold truth gained by that experiance. For him only a liberal viewpoint is valid and no other viewpoint is allowed. Yo know, just like a parrot.

                                          #16.12 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 8:16 PM EDT

                                          Anna - is it true that you legally practise law?

                                            #16.13 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 8:20 PM EDT

                                            practise

                                            HUH??? English puhleeze...

                                              #16.14 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 9:34 PM EDT

                                              I've made my point. There are no facts to argue, so there's no point in my doing so.

                                                #16.15 - Tue Apr 5, 2011 10:23 AM EDT

                                                fiesty - isn't "practise" a verb in the context I used?

                                                Right Johnb, there is never a need for YOU to generate a rebuttal because you refuse to have independent thoughts. You must have been a joy to your debate instructor when you insisted on always presenting one side (the same side) in a debate? To bad you fail to realize that internet blogs are not the "norm" for any types of formal debate or rules

                                                When you object to ones conclusions and you can't substantiate your position you have proven nothing for it is just an opinion just like the others poster. Is that your argument??

                                                  #16.16 - Tue Apr 5, 2011 3:56 PM EDT
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                                                  BREAKING NEWS

                                                  Friday I received an e-mail from (wait for it) John Boehner and you guys were skeptical. Here is part of what he said.

                                                  He thanked me for taking the time to contact him and asked me to keep in touch.

                                                  He wants me to continue to speak out by joining him on Facebook, Twitter and America Speaking Out.

                                                  He intends to continue to listen to the American people.

                                                  He is focused on job creation and economic growth.

                                                  He wants to repeal the job-crushing health care law and replace it with common sense reforms.

                                                  Sound familiar? Same old Republican talking points.

                                                  Today my e-mail will ask him if he is going to support the Trump/Bachmann ticket for 2012. I like to stick the needle in and then twist it.

                                                  President Obama has my financial support and my vote.

                                                   

                                                   

                                                  • 12 votes
                                                  Reply#17 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:09 AM EDT

                                                  Friday I received an e-mail from (wait for it) John Boehner and you guys were skeptical. Here is part of what he said.

                                                  Anyone else notice the irony that Weeper Boehner FINALLY responded to dottielou on April Fools Day? lol

                                                  Thanks for the update! ;o)

                                                  • 8 votes
                                                  #17.1 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:18 AM EDT

                                                  Just what we need another 4 years of the, talk up a storm and do nothin. Forget the greatTea Party they had their day, from what i see they blu-it also.Now what we need most of all is people to wake to our main problem which is WASHINGTON itself. they tell us we have to tighten our belts, why is it always us. I haven't seen any of GOP or democrats cuttin their pay tohelp us, its always we the dummies have to survive their stupid laws@games. I find it very hard to support lires and crooks with a so-called title, emma wake up girl. for your information its people like you and I that are gittin dumped on.

                                                  • 1 vote
                                                  #17.2 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 3:34 PM EDT
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                                                  Official 2012 Presidential Ballot

                                                  1) Corporate picked Republican Candidate

                                                  2) Corporate picked Democrate Candidate

                                                  3) Corporate picked (other) Candidate

                                                  There are your choices folks, take your pick, your vote means nothing.

                                                  • 5 votes
                                                  Reply#18 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:11 AM EDT

                                                  Folks out there DON'T let Bush fool you again, YOUR VOTE DOES COUNT.

                                                  • 3 votes
                                                  #18.1 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 3:27 PM EDT

                                                  Bravo Burgundy! The Republicans are just hoping that their lies will affect Democrats and Independents so they won't show up to vote. They are snakes who will say and do anything to make sure President Obama fails.

                                                  • 3 votes
                                                  #18.2 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 4:59 PM EDT
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                                                  May God help him, and (us). I am giving my support and my vote to President Obama, because for these years he pulled very hard with out the BS and I believe that he cares for ME, or he (better).

                                                  • 6 votes
                                                  Reply#19 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:18 AM EDT

                                                  Dreamer

                                                  • 1 vote
                                                  #19.1 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 3:30 PM EDT

                                                  LOL@Emma...a politician cares for no one but their own...OMG thanks for the laugh though

                                                  • 1 vote
                                                  #19.2 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 4:36 PM EDT
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                                                  It’s sad how Trump is playing the birthers. He knows that there is a segment of people such as the birthers who are just plain stupid and most likely racist, which like hearing this crazy talk.

                                                  Trump, you have lost it.

                                                  • 5 votes
                                                  Reply#20 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:20 AM EDT

                                                  can anyone say home grown terror coming from 50 year old Americans

                                                  Say Civil war with 50 year old Americans looking to buy Nukes

                                                  Can we see home grown Libya, home grown Afghanistan, home grown Iraq

                                                  This is what people who have lived in this country since birth, UN like Obama are saying

                                                  Can some one tell me where the home grown terror camps are,, I want to join and

                                                  Take back our country the same way everyone in the world is seeing the only way to do that is,,Civil war

                                                  • 3 votes
                                                  Reply#21 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:21 AM EDT

                                                  I think President Obama's re-election slogan should be simply "Scoreboard." :o)

                                                  P.S. I am 40 years old today . . . so a round of popcorn for everybody! lol

                                                  • 10 votes
                                                  Reply#22 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:23 AM EDT

                                                  Happy Birthday, Nash.

                                                  • 2 votes
                                                  #22.1 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:33 AM EDT

                                                  Happy Birthday GF - you're 40 and FABULOUS! ;o)

                                                  *GIANT Birthday HUG* for you!

                                                  Since you brought your own *popcorn*, I'll bring the kool-aide! Cherry right?

                                                  • 3 votes
                                                  #22.2 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:35 AM EDT

                                                  Thanks Job1 . . . and Feisty . . . the koolaid is much appreciated . . . as long as it is "red" any flavor will do! :oP

                                                  • 2 votes
                                                  #22.3 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:41 AM EDT

                                                  Happy birhday Nash!

                                                  • 3 votes
                                                  #22.4 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:57 AM EDT

                                                  Happy Birthday, Nashville Fan!

                                                  • 1 vote
                                                  #22.5 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 11:10 AM EDT

                                                  Muchas gracias John B and Jody!

                                                    #22.6 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 11:23 AM EDT

                                                    Happy 40th Birthday Nashville fan. I passed that milestone last summer.

                                                    Don't know about you, but it reminded me of that song, "Are you reeling in the years" :}

                                                    • 1 vote
                                                    #22.7 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 11:33 AM EDT

                                                    scoreboard? Obama is full of talk but even he can't remember what he promised. His Obama Doctrine is the latest example of Obama contradicting himself. at least he's more concerned with winning re-election than ruining our country the last few months.

                                                    • 5 votes
                                                    #22.8 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 11:53 AM EDT

                                                    Thanks for the birthday wishes Yellowdog!

                                                    And thank you "use your brains" for not seeing the irony in your name! :o)

                                                    • 2 votes
                                                    #22.9 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 12:00 PM EDT

                                                    Happy Birthday, Nash - I brought Chocolate Croissants, they're in the breakroom.

                                                    I remembered it was your birthday, as it is my wedding anniversary! I sent a message through the vine tubes at the Dew Drop.

                                                    I hope you have a GREAT day! The first 40 are EASY - it starts getting a little tougher after that,...

                                                    Take care,

                                                    • 2 votes
                                                    #22.10 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 12:04 PM EDT

                                                    Thanks so much Clara . . . you have no idea how much I need a chocolate croissant right now . . . and HAPPY ANNIVERSARY . . . now THOSE are much harder to reach than birthdays in my opinion . . . so congrats! :o)

                                                    • 1 vote
                                                    #22.11 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 12:14 PM EDT

                                                    Happy Birthday Nash, may you live a hundred years. Enjoy your special day and all good wishes for the coming year.

                                                    • 2 votes
                                                    #22.12 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 4:23 PM EDT

                                                    Thanks so much Gingerbread Mamma - it has been a great day . . . coughing and all! :o)

                                                      #22.13 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 6:16 PM EDT
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                                                      Please reelect me. Theres so many more jobs for me to kill and places left for me to vacation.

                                                      • 12 votes
                                                      Reply#23 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:35 AM EDT

                                                      What a fool you are, Jeff...the Republican hatred, lies, and sarcasm lives on. If you get a paycheck, Jeff, have you been enjoying the tax CUTS President Obama has made sure that you get?

                                                      • 2 votes
                                                      #23.1 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 4:36 PM EDT
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                                                      So what's the top issue? If it's jobs, recession, the economy, that was supposedly the top issue in the Mid-Terms, and republicans won that one, and really didn't do anything about jobs, recession, the economy, other than to make things even worse. The republicans seem to have an array or lesser, or even non-issues that they are going to campaign on, maybe with a 10 billion in rightwing propaganda mystery money, they can make another election about absolutely nothing. Meanwhile, millions are still out of work, we need about 20 million good jobs, and the republican recession goes on, according to the sentiments of most Americans. In my view, any republican that does not have a plan for 20 million good jobs, should just stay home, not bother with running, just fold up now, take the game to another venue. I'm really not interested in listening to another nearly 2 years of continual nonsense from them, the Country has serious economic problems, we don't have time for their nonsense.

                                                      • 6 votes
                                                      Reply#24 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:51 AM EDT

                                                      Obummer spent 2 years dragging us to our knees and creating the mess we're in, but you feel that the GOO should have addressed and fixed all our issues in the last 90 days? Wow, more liberal spin from clueless followers of Mr. Clueless. 4 more years of this incompetent campaign manager and we can kss this nation goodbye.

                                                      If Trump is serious about his plans to run we had all better vote for him if we want to save this country. This administration of lawyers and far left loonies has no idea how to do that, and their reckless spending and money printing is sending inflation at us like a runaway freight! Only an aggressive businessman like Trump can pull this broken mess back together, and in spite of minorites blindly voting for "their guy", the majority will actually use common sense and send this golf playing fool packing.

                                                      • 3 votes
                                                      #24.1 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 12:05 PM EDT

                                                      no one really...what an appropriate name! You want Trump for President?!?! What a fool.

                                                        #24.2 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 4:39 PM EDT
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                                                        When you have no competition why wait. Most of the worlds ruling dictators do the same thing.

                                                          Reply#25 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:52 AM EDT
                                                          Comment author avatarLouisJExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                                          Republicans are no more predictable than the way this board operates...

                                                          With that bit of good news, the day can only get better. And with First Lady Obama's Health Initiatives, this little tid bit of Info will help open the eyes of certain people about the health of our nation and people and how we as a Progressive Nation would like to tackle this problem. But I see a Republican counter point as I was witness to their anti-health viewss this past weekend.

                                                          Republican base says "You're not wanted in rural Huntington, WV Jamie Oliver"

                                                          Jamie Oliver's Food Revolution

                                                          Man talk about your cold welcome. I watched this new show called, Jamie Oliver's Food Revolution on Saturday. The premise is Huntington is one of the unhealthiest cities in America.

                                                          First up, Anti-Health Radio DJ

                                                          At the onset, he is challenged by a radio DJ about him coming in and attempting to brainwash or indoctrinate the people into doing his will. The radio DJ said, "We don't want to eat lettuce all day…" that's just bad in so many ways and completely irresponsible. I have no doubt that Radio guy is the voice of Huntington and feels like he has some power so what does he do, slanders the guy about brainwashing. That's just your usual Republican talking point.

                                                          Next Up, Anti-Health Cafeteria Workers

                                                          The reception the man received from the Central City Elementary School cafeteria workers was even colder. They heard his old English and man they thought he came from another planet. And here's the kicker, they were eating pizza for breakfast… PIZZA FOR BREAKFAST? WTH?

                                                          When he attempts to introduce healthy alternatives within the budget, they still rail against the man.

                                                          I hope the show does well and the people respond better as the series moves forward. But this show is the face of America in regards to how we are perceived in other areas of the world… unhealthy, uncompromising and unwelcoming.

                                                          This man tried to connect with people that more or less are Conservative in nature and mannerism. But that's how Republicans think, not being able to agree with people that think differently. I have to give it to FAUX News, they know that you guys will follow lock stock and barrel with everything they say. They realize you guys are sheep and have no intention of disagreeing with anything they say.

                                                          I have to admit that I was always perplexed how you guys defended racist actions, words and deeds from certain members of your party. But now I realize that Republicans for the large part just don't like anyone that has a different viewpoint than their own. My bad, that's not just racism, it's just prejudiced.

                                                          I pity you guys... not.

                                                          United We Stand, Divided We Fall

                                                          • 3 votes
                                                          Reply#26 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 10:54 AM EDT

                                                          Anyone want wagers on this one?

                                                          Giggidy.

                                                            #26.1 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 11:15 AM EDT

                                                            Louis: Can you post this a few more times, I think someone may have missed it.

                                                            • 1 vote
                                                            #26.2 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 12:28 PM EDT

                                                            Man, someone shook up the Republican hornets' nest with with this thought today. They are out in force. HAHAHA! Hey FR give me a stick so I can poke it and really get them in a frenzy.

                                                            Oh man I feel the hate in the room.

                                                            Giggidy

                                                            :^D

                                                            • 1 vote
                                                            #26.3 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 12:41 PM EDT

                                                            Beverly in Chicago Comment collapsed by the community

                                                            Good posts Louis& Feisty

                                                            Today is a special day. lots going on. The prez announced his reelection bid. He 'll be multitasking in meetings working.

                                                            Today is the day we celebrate Dr King's sacrifice and stand in solidarity with the unions.
                                                            The media covered the Tea Party but ignored the nationwide Job Party rallies. Will the press cover the April 4 WeAreOne?

                                                              #26.4 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 3:45 PM EDT

                                                              Beverly in Chicago Comment collapsed by the community

                                                              Copy Truth And Nothin' But

                                                              It is a busy day. Today is the day President Obama announces his re-election bid. He is not giving a speech; he'll be working. It's so nice to have a President who cares and works hard. You can see the stress in his face and the gray in his hair.

                                                              Our president is special because he is the leader of the free world.

                                                              I don’t worry about the t-baggers. they are in demise.

                                                              Coupled with t-baggers age and the youth that are drawn to him in this country and the world, I do believe the t-baggers can never, never, ever take this country back; back to the way it was prior to the t-baggers ascent. The youth are our future and they will lead us and the world forward. To those who say they don’t hate our president; put dislike his his policies, then the truth is if they pray; they should for our president. If they don’t pray they should think positive thems for him, instead wishing him failure. If he fails we all fail. We should eradicate ill feelings because thoughts our things once they are acted upon. A perfect example is the preacher who burene the Qurans. United we Stand; divide we collapse.

                                                              The Koch brothers don’t want to be held accountable for being behind the scenes. They don’t want to be exposed either.

                                                              1. a. Oil spills: fined $30 million in 2000 to resolve claims related to 300 oil spills across America
                                                              2. b. Anti-worker/union
                                                              3. c. Anti-healthcare
                                                              4. d. Anti-immigration
                                                              5. e. Foreclosures

                                                              Check it out: http://goo.gl/Lua4t

                                                              The billionaire Koch brothers have spent hundreds of millions of dollars to gain political influence and change America.

                                                              *************************************************************************************

                                                              I’ll work hard to get him re-elected in 2012. my vote will be against the Koch brothers since they are mysterious and the worst humanoids lurking in the dark on this earth. It’s time to eradicate distractions that keep us getting a rise in the uninsured, a rise in the poverty rate, and a drop in the median income since the Great Depression.

                                                              United we Stand; Divided we collapse.

                                                                #26.5 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 3:47 PM EDT
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