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Oh yeah, there is this debt issue.
And what about energy?
This is gonna be might fun.
President Obama is to address the nation on Monday regarding the Libyan military intervention.
Feisty?
Got an opinion yet?
If you were half as 'perceptive' as you think you are, you would already know what my 'opinion' on the Libyian situation is... bag boy...
Then again, that would require you actually read what's written rather than running from post to post lifting your little leg.
Hey MB, Syria is killing civilians. Any thoughts about intervention? I know they don't have much oil, but it's all about humanitarianism, right?
We have a President to make that call, Indy Lib.
You need to ask him if he has any thoughts along those lines.
Actually...it's not all about humanitarianism to me, IL. That's the excuse that the left is using to rationalize a Libyan intervention they would despise otherwise.
When it comes to the deployment of the U.S. military, I don't see where we have anyone other than the President in a position to decide in a timely fashion.
That's the bottom line for me.
But I don't know what your opinion is...
So...humor me.
Was there an answer in there, Feisty?
I just want to hear it again...if there was.
Yes...
I'll take a pass, if you don't mind. I can't 'compete' with all your new found BFF's!
Pulling each others fingers has never been my thing! ;o)
Awww look at Feisty, getting so me attention and playing it all coy like. Like it's 1923 and she's got a suitor.
Heartwarming.
Not your thing? Shoot I was sure that's what you all did down there at the Inn.
So if not that, then it's tea-bagging? EWWWWWWWWWWW!
Actually, Spanky...
Kinda pathetic, really.
Like the Bette Davis character in Whatever Happened To Sweet Baby Jane".
Just as nasty, too.
Like I was saying about your new BFF's there bag boy - pull up your big boy panties and DEAL WITH IT! Unless, you're comfortable with the rest of the trolls.... but then again, after our history, you're much MORE comfortable lurking in the shadows, now aren't you?
The mutual masterbation 'gang' is nothing more than enterainting...
STROKE ON... STROKE OFF there little guy...
How udderly pathetic
Ponders made a pun,...I LOVE it.
Can't seem to stay out of the gutter, can you Feisty? Actually, it suits you.
And, I don't know about lurking...seems to me I've been pretty up-front about what my views are.
It's you who's been hiding lately.
So...
What about Libya, Feisty?
I'd kinda like to hear before Monday, when President Obama tells you what to think...then we'll all know.
lol
Rough night bag boy? You appear 'crustier' than your usual self this morning! lol
I answered your question - see post #1.2!
If you don't like the answer, well, that's your problem NOT mine!
Demanding & stomping your feet isn't going to change a thing!
You really should go back to your gloating & shtick - it compliments you SO much more, than this sniveling 'thingy' you got going on lately!
Here's a Scooby Snack for you & do try to have a nice weekend!
My apologies, Feisty...I guess you actually HAVE made your views known:
"The LAST thing we need at this time is to get sucked into another war in the mid-east!"
"I'm relieved the days of 'guns a blazin' are behind us."
(But...what about Tomahawks and Marine Harriers a blazin', Feisty?)
Try not to be too hard on President Obama on Monday, and...
Have a great weekend yourself, Feisty Redhead!
*sigh*
OH MY, bag boy, you did your homework and have managed to 'out' me! lol
Thanks for the reminder, however, you are doing yourself a serious diservice by confusing my aversion to war as a 'sign' that I don't fully support OUR President!
After all, that's why I voted for the guy who is intelligent, cautious & pragmatic!
Between you & me, I think he's got a better 'handle' on what's going on over there than we do. He might even be privy to some intelligence we can't find on FR!
See, this one of the glaring differences between progressives & oppressives is: We don't march LOCK STEP and manage to think outside of the box!
I don't march in "lock step", anyway.
Good to see you won't be giving President Obama a hard time on Monday...despite your deeply held convictions.
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL Comment collapsed by the community
If you were half as 'perceptive' as you think you are, you would already know what my 'opinion' on the Libyian situation is... bag boy...
Then again, that would require you actually read what's written rather than running from post to post lifting your little leg.
Your "deeply held convictions", Feisty...
See you Monday!
lol
Fiesty may not have an opinion, Mixed Bag, but the restmof the world does.
So far, it seems to be fifty- fifty on the Libya thing. On other matters, the trend is a little clearer, and it is not good.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/03/27/2136454/arab-spring-drives-wedge-between.html
Obama's diplomacy seems to be making more enemies than friends around the world. Maybe somebody should send him a copy of "He's Just Not That Into You".
Ah, look Feisty: no jo, your biggest fan, is still misrepresenting what you said about Libya. Do you suppose that it would bother her to know, that as usual, she has no clue what she is talking about? In fact, world regard for the United States is UP since the President was in office, stopping the decline from Bush. And it is no jo's beloved Gallup Organization that informs us of that little fact. You read it here first folks, if a post is from no jo, disregard the information therein. By the way, no jo, I thought you weren't speaking to or about Feisty any more?
Old broad just can't help herself, can she NDD? lol
The news from Libya pushed this off of the front pages, but last Friday, a letter signed by 64 U.S.Senators...32 Democrats and 32 Republicans, was sent to President Obama, asking him to expand talks about the budget and the debt crisis. The letter recommends that tax and entitlement reform be a part of any discussions.
Separately, six U.S. Senators: Dick Durbin (D-IL), Kent Conrad (D-ND), Mark Warner (D-VA), Tom Coburn (R-OK), Mike Crapo (R-ID), and Saxby Chambliss (R-GA) have been working together to craft legislation based on the Plan put forth by President Obama's debt commission.
No matter what events...Libya, the Japan earthquake and tsunami, whatever...push the U.S. debt crisis off of center stage, it always returns.
Always.
This is the single issue that will define the Obama Presidency.
President Obama needs to get started...the sooner, the better.
MidBag - SSSSHHHHHHHHHH. There's nothing to see here.
Now move along.
You are absolutly right, before we worry about what is going on in other countries we need to worry about ourselves!!!
We are currently 14.3 trillion dollars in debt!!!
Don't forget Obama's budget proposal that will add 9.5 trillion over the next ten years. Also this does not include the interest on the debt. According to Obama you don't need to budget for that. We won't make it 10 years with this guy in office. Same Obama that has stated over and over, the federal government has to live within it means. "I do not intend to leave debt from my administration for the next generation" Obama speak. Do opposite.
Obama is a good president like all, however, he needs to actually get the country straight, but he has so far done the opposite!!!!
So, how about that 3% Growth & over 190,000 JOBS ?
Did they come from Defunding NPR, Planned ParentHood, Voteing to repeal HCR?
We patiently await some answers here Mixed, Spank.
Whassssssssssup!
Rick, How about the cost of over $255,000 per job it cost the taxpayers to create the jobs that the stimulus package created. How about the additional 200,000 federal workers that have been added to the rolls we citizens must pay for from our pockets at a time when government needs to shrink instead of grow? I voted for Obama, but am bitterly disappointed. The Taxacrats have not yet gotten the message. Not sure the Republicans have either.
Lanikai, come on into 2011 with the rest of us. Stimulus is SO 2009-2010!
Were back into a women's reproductive system, did'nt You get the News?
Then there's this little thing that happened in Japan>Well maybe 3 little things.
Then Lybia, comeon, if ya gonna B A PLAYA, at least keep up with da Rules!
I almost forgot that Speaker Boehner is also back after Planned Parenethood & NPR too!
Rick, I think some of the conservative voices here have commented that the jobs and growth were from the tax cuts. In fact, there was a discussion in an earlier article praising Obama and the Boehner for the cuts.
I work all week so cannot participate as the discussion happen, but I did read that exchange a little while ago.
The 61 billion the GOP is talking about is totally unacceptable.
Rand Paul has advanced aplan that would cut 500 billion.
Urge conservatives to vote for it and remind then we handed them the largest electoral vicroy in 70 years to cut spending and repeal the insurance farce.
We removed a lot of republican incumbents in the primaries last year and we will be doing it again you start this RINO crap again.
The dems/libs can be ignored, they will vote dem if Obama annouced tomorrow that he is a practicing pedophile, they will still vote dem.
They want their freebies and are unconcerned about who hands them to the life forms with their hand out.
Start cutting republicans, get serious about it, you can bet we are serious about it.
Mixed Bag "No matter what events...Libya, the Japan earthquake and tsunami, whatever...push the U.S. debt crisis off of center stage, it always returns. Always. This is the single issue that will define the Obama Presidency. President Obama needs to get started...the sooner, the better."
Oh how true that statement is. The problem with Obama is that he seems unable to make decisions. Just look at the months he took to make a decision on a troop escalation in Afghanistan, and he typically avoids making a decision on tough issues - something he learned as a State Senator in Illinois when he would vote "Present" on hard issues so he could avoid his responsibilities.
I think Obama's legacy will be something like;
"President Obama presided over the largest runup in the National Debt in history, which led to drastic economic consequences, including massive unemployment and drastic austerity programs that were felt for decades".
From George Washington to the last day of George W. Bush's 2nd term the federal deficit was 10 trillion dollars, in Obama's first 2 years Obama was able to add another 4.2 trillion dollars. How is he going to bring that number down? As far as I know all he wants to do is invest (spend) that is what he did the first two years and it failed, he better give the reign to the Republicans for a while!!!
The Repubs are taking the reigns on Nov 6 2012 and then 75 days later is "The End of an Error."
Rick, you may try and ignore the facts stated in my response to you, however it does not make reality go away. I have more in common with fiscal conservatives, but Republicans need to follow through with reigning in the biggest federal government this country has ever had. Obam created this record making bloated government in just 2-years. The Democrats continue their policy of buying votes from those that hope to get more for nothing while Obama's policies continue to drive this nation further into debt. Another fact is that the top 10% of wage earners pay 90% of the taxes collected by the Feds. That is still not enough to satisfy those who have been neutered by government handouts and have lost the ability to better themselves like many of us have with hardwork and taking chances. Aloha.
Independent-3190175
From George Washington to the last day of George W. Bush's 2nd term the federal deficit was 10 trillion dollars, in Obama's first 2 years Obama was able to add another 4.2 trillion dollars. How is he going to bring that number down? As far as I know all he wants to do is invest (spend) that is what he did the first two years and it failed, he better give the reign to the Republicans for a while!!!
How blue can you get?
Perhaps, this will help you. You could start by removing that dishonest hatchet job Georgie boy gave US which send our debt through the roof. Bush did not put the 2 wars on the books. President Obama did.
President Bush excluded funding for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan from the regular 2007 defense budget, requiring Congress to pass a separate, supplemental bill to pay for them.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Congressional_actions_to_end_the_Iraq_War_in_the_110th_Congress#Articles_and_resources
Generally, taxes rise during wartime and then come back down in the years afterward. Start with the Civil War. World War I. World War II and others; but exclude Afghanistan and Iraq since Georgie boy cut taxes and didn't put them on the books.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/nov/30/paul-krugman/krugman-says-bush-was-first-president-lead-country/
Americans are out of work, yet t -baggers want to cut spending—that means cutting jobs. So essentially, what you are saying is President Obama has spent more in the last 200 years combined in the two years since George Washington? That's ridiculous!
FYI:
Dick Morris told the same lie that from the time George Washington became president to Obama, we borrowed $9 trillion. And since Obama has taken office, we've borrowed almost 5 trillion more.
http://mediamatters.org/research/201101070022
According to those figures, the debt from the nation's birth through the end of 2008 -- George Washington through George W. Bush -- was $5.8 trillion.
Now, had [Eric]Cantor stuck with the original timeline of two years, we would need to limit our look at the increase in public federal debt between the end of 2008 and the end of 2010, which has been almost $3.5 trillion. That would make the claim false by a long shot.
http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2010/nov/07/eric-cantor/cantor-says-obama-budget-adds-more-debt-totaled-43/
Save me a seat over at the Dew Drop Inn will ya?
I’m running a little bit late!
Another outstanding week here at First Read, courtesy of our brilliant hosts & moderators: Mark, Domenico & Ali!
Feisty
See you later; don't worry take your time. I got you covered GF. The first drink is on me.
Mark & Domenico it's been another exciting week. Thank you
Happy Weekend every one
Keep on pushing straight ahead!!!
I can always count on you GF!!!
With all of our new members (Tom, Yreka - Greg, Detroit & Mickey, NY) I've GOT to make sure I bring enough *popcorn* lol
See you in a few! ;o)
We won't have the birthday cake til you get there, Feisty!!
Thanks to our fine FR hosts for plenty to discuss. Have a great weekend. I'm headed to the Dew Drop for some of that HCR birthday cake and I hear there's champaign, too.
Keeping a light on in the window Red. Party can't start till all the Aces show up
Hey Everybody... Mickey in NY is on his way! YAY!
Let's all give him a great big Dew Drop Inn welcome shall we?
And IR - errr.... let's not mention the tattoo artist yet, shall we? ;o)
Wow, such a deal for the Ultra Left Liberals.
So you posters want to know why Feisty, Bev, et al, are able to be the first posters on MSNBC news articles ? Just go to the following link for info on Mark, Domenico, and others on FIRST READ:
ldo,
did you notice Spanky got the first post on this one? and, really - this article summed up how the LEFTIES get first dibs?
Odd, all I noticed in the video was the Michael Steele sign and the Fred Thompson sign,...I guess people really only see the world through their own bias.
No kidding Clara: How on earth did he get anything about who posts first? Does it occur to him that "the early bird catches the worm" might apply to this?
ldo -- See post 4.4 - yes... I'm l@@king at you! lol
IR, Hope you are well you were a little quiet this week. Have a good weekend. I'm south of the border so i'll have a margarita for you.
Hey, all, time to celebrate spring and HCR at the Dew Drop Inn. I have made two cakes, so there should be plenty for all! What oh what have we learned this week? People in the middle east continue on in their march to freedom, and isn't odd how often protecting workers seems to come up with those protesters? Could be a lesson learned for the rest of us if we would pay attention. Little Sarah, off on spring break with hubby Todd in India and Israel, both criticized a war time President on foreign soil (where oh where was the outrage, right wing?) and informed us that the problems with the settlements in Israel were simply "zoning problems". Doggone it, why didn't she tell us that YEARS ago, now someone let the various city councils settle the question once and for all! And, in the march to theocracy brought to us by the "teabaggers", Rep. Forbes from Virginia wants to make legislation that makes it for sure forever (amen) that "In God we trust" is the National motto. He simply doesn't care that the Founders had made their own selection, those Founders can be pretty pesky when they don't agree with mental "giants" like Forbes. So, folks, things area getting sillier by the day, which makes it so much more interesting, don't you think? My thanks always to my hosts, with special thanks for a very thoughtful answer to my question, I enjoyed the response. IR; time to party! Hoping our new friends Mickey in NY and Tunde Adkins can join us in a toast to progressive thought at the Dew Drop Inn. Feisty, and gang! I'll be a bit late tonight...going to help my married cherubs move into their first ever very own house. Could you please have a Dew Drop Inn champagne toast to their happiness, and I'll pay the tab later!
Enjoyed your post, newdayDawning. Some weeks, there's just much odd ball things to talk about. I wonder if Forbes knows the history of In God We Trust on our coins--for much of the early years, it was added only in times of war. Have fun moving the cherubs, we'll certainly toast the first new house.
Ohh, two cakes--more than enough for the regulars and special guests.
Congrats to the kids, New Day---a big week for you with the new house and the Boiler Room! And maybe spring, too! I'm buying the champagne so we'll keep some on ice for you!
Newday Hope you don't mind but I sliped in and got a prequile on that cake and man is it Gooood. How'd you know that an old Redneck developed a sweet tooth in his old age. Congrats to the kids on the house. I know it won't take them long to make into a home. See a house just don't get to be a home till you fill it with love and being yours I know they've got some extra. If it all the same to you I'll substitute a little of that good ol' Mountain Dew for the champagne. Bubbly makes me sneeze
Congrats on the cherubs new abode NDD! ;o)
What I learned this week, is, there are a substantial amount of trolls who lurk around here, who would scream they're starving with a loaf of bread under each arm!
They b!tch just to hear themselves b!tch - nothing more and nothing less...
Hey - Did you all see where Elizabeth Taylor was late to her own funeral (per her request)! LOL
She managed to have the 'last word'...
Feisty
Liz most of all her fortune went to charity. She was a good woman she started doing for AIDS before Georgie boy did.
NDD,
So happy for your youngsters on MOVING day! I know you have been helping with the painting and the fixing up! You've raised them up right and there will be many happy occassions for you all in the new space! I wonder if Sey will visit?
Thanks, Clara, and all concerned are glad that the painting is OVER! Hubby and I dropped off our 30+year old snowblower for them to use. This is the third generation that has used it. Man alive they knew how to make a snowblower in those days. We were pretty blase about loading it on the truck...until we found out that not only did they make them well....they made them weigh about 200 lbs! Wound up buying ramps to get it on the truck, and got it there in time for the last blizzard. Their move is wearing us OUT! Didn't take Sey over during painting, collie pups being rather curious and "helpful" but he and Jolie will visit soon.
Dang is it Friday already? Don’t time fly when you’re having fun?
Looks like we’ve got the politics pretty well covered this week and I see that nobodies come to any permanent harm. Hope everybody takes the week end and rubs the bruises and scrapes a little and shows up bright and early Monday morning for another go round. Looks like it’s going to be an interesting week.
President Obama has made his way back home from the South American trip that seems to have caused so much consternation and by all indications seems to have had some measure of success in the endeavor.
Secretary of State Clinton seems to have been successful in turning over command and control of the Libyan Shindig to NATO. I would suggest that if some are still concerned about clarity of the mission that they contact the NATO Commander or the U.N Security Council and perhaps they could shed a little light on the subject for you.
Few other things have come up this week:
Elizabeth Taylor, the actress who dazzled generations of moviegoers with her stunning beauty and whose name was synonymous with Hollywood glamour, died on Wednesday of congestive heart failure at Cedars-Sinai Hospital in Los Angeles, her publicist, Sally Morrison, told The Associated Press. She was 79
In a statement reported by ABC News, her son Michael Wilding said: “My Mother was an extraordinary woman who lived life to the fullest, with great passion, humor, and love. Though her loss is devastating to those of us who held her so close and so dear, we will always be inspired by her enduring contribution to our world.”
Senator Warner’s place is just over the hill and down the hollow. Ms. Taylor graced Virginia for a little over five years and her grace, beauty and warm heart will be missed by all of us. Go with God Pretty Lady
Down at the Dew Drop Inn we have decided that since it’s pick a Holiday weekend we are going to have a Celebration of Spring in addition to our tournament watching this weekend. Seems kind of appropriate since we’ve got some green beer left over from St. Patty’s day and we need to dispense it before it goes bad and we’ve got some Hoop Cheese left over from our guests that weren’t here that we need to serve before it turns green. Heard a rumor that we may even have some Birthday cake to celebrate HCR’s one year anniversary. Maybe we can bottle up some Spring and ship it out to some of our friends and neighbors that are still being afflicted with wind chills and snowdrifts. Anyway you’ll come on down as soon as you can and wave your bracket sheets at one another and talk trash and general have a high old time. A portion of the profits this weekend are going to be sent to Elizabeth Taylor’s AIDS Foundation.
Over at the Come Back Inn we’ve developed a little problem that I’m going to have to take care of this weekend sometime. Apparently those Revenuer fellows that I kind of sent off toward the Trail when they came around looking for our guests that weren’t here have managed to get themselves lost out on the Ridge somewhere. Seems like just like the Governor’s that sent them they can’t find their butts with both hands and a map. Now the guests are complaining about disembodied voices being heard at all hours of the day and night and the kids think they’re ghosts and haints and such like and it’s scaring them. Reckon I’ll have to take a little time and go gather them up and spot them cab fare to get home. We have some space available since our guests that ain’t here have gone on back up north to wherever they didn’t come from so you’ll come on down set a spell and take a load off your………….mind. The Big Room as always will be there for you’ll whose bracket’s are already busted and overindulge in drowning your pique. For the foreseeable future a potion of the profits from the Come Back Inn will be sent to the Japanese Relief Effort in honor of Grimey’s son’s elementary class.
Barkeep set me and my friends up a round. Drive –by do you think maybe we could reach back in the Juke Box archives and maybe play a little Johnny Green “Raintree County”. Maybe some Eddie Fisher “Anytime” or “Dungaree Hill” for the Pretty Lady.
As always my thanks and appreciation to our hosts for their time, giving me a little place to stand, a subject to comment on, a forum to put it in, and their indulgence when I don’t quite get it right or get a little off subject. I purely do appreciate it. Hope you’ll have a fine weekend and good fun among folks that you know and love. To my fellow participants keep well, keep safe, and keep the faith. We’ll make it. See you’ll next week
Dreams are the touchstones of our character.
Henry David Thoreau
Independent Redneck Va.
Dang is it Friday already? Don’t time fly when you’re having fun?
Looks like we’ve got the politics pretty well covered this week and I see that nobodies come to any permanent harm. Hope everybody takes the week end and rubs the bruises and scrapes a little and shows up bright and early Monday morning for another go round. Looks like it’s going to be an interesting week.
Ain't that the truth when you having fun time gets away from you, quick IR. We sure get that politics thing straight. What cracks me up, like the President said if 'n you just look around you'll see it's one fine day. Ain't no Armageddon ; ain't no death panels. Them folks crazy on the right.
You know those Revenue fellow get their directions from that Paul Ryan fellow. Seeing as he really aint no genius, next time he'll have to draw 'em picture intend of drawing a map I reckon.
I 'll be through there in a little bit after I leave the dew drop..
Thanks so much for mentioning Elizabeth Taylor in your recap, IR----we'll surely have a champagne toast in her honor down at the Inn. And I heard the Comeback Inn is offering discounts on the honeymoon suite to anyone with as many marriages as she had---there is optimism!
Best EVER IR, and all of you; thanks for the good wishes to my cherubs! Will let them know!
newday
Love and happiness to you and your, darling, Angels.
Bev this tube machine wouldn't let me earlier but I wanted to let you know that as far as I can see old Ryan ain't got enough Crayolas in his box to draw anything much less a picture.
Thank you so much Bev, and right back at you! RIght now, I am watching as son in law sketches out what our various tasks are for this night.
Mark & Domenico it's been another exciting week. Thanks for all you do to make us learned and happy.
My post didn't save. Maybe I'm getting too giddy about the Dew Drop Inn time thinking of all the fun we'll have.
Happy weekend everybody.
See you at the Dew Drop. Can't wait so we can crack up and count all the tea drinkers with that tart look on their mugs.
This morning's newspaper. "Subject country's economic future looks increasingly bleak due to political paralysis, a grinding debt and a long recession. The subject country's woes quickly piled up due to the cash stapped government and rejection of its debt-reduction plan. Borrowing costs surged to unsustainable levels while an international ratings agency downgraded its credit worthiness. The country is Portugal. See where we are headed. We have an inept President who has a spending habit second to none and a just as inept congress. Go ahead tell yourself it can't happn here. If we do not get rid of Obama, and his spending friends in congress, this will surely happen sooner than later. We need leadership in Washington to be able to return to fiscal responsibility before it is too late.
Hey Tony C-2383666
We ain't got no inept President this time. As a matter of fact, the dumb one was Georgie boy who didn't put the 2 wars on the books to trick ya'll.
This President was smart enough not to lie to ya'll when he put the wars on the books.
Keep on pushing them lies and see how far you get if you think the Republicans can do better.
Yea them Republican can tell some Whoopers. You remember that BIG LIE he told about WMDs.
Tony - We need leadership in Washington to be able to return to fiscal responsibility before it is too late.
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And what evidence is there that republicans have ever been fiscally responsible? Sure, they talk a good game, but I've never seen them come through.
There is Beverly, crying like a baby, wah, he started it mommy, it isn't my fault. Blame him. Nothing I said was a lie. What you seem to do is live a lie. That is that the money will never run out. You need to take a look at the financial crisis in the schools in your own backyard. Keep spending baby thats the solution. Who mentioned Republicans? You.
Indy Lib. Who mentioned Republicans? You? I said inept President. Inept Congress. Even Gerry Brown as figured it out. When will you?
Tony C-2383666
There is Beverly, crying like a baby, wah, he started it mommy, it isn't my fault. Blame him.
Crying????
I'm so happy I could burst. I love my handsome, intelligent, articulate, father, husband, President, and his classy First Lady and their beautiful children. They are perfect role models. He made so proud in South America. They loved him. Scroll down and see for yourself.
http://www.thepeoplesview.net/search/label/Lybia
There were huge crowds constantly around him. I can trust President Obama much further than I could throw crooked GW Bush. It's the weekend. We get to enjoy.
Look at the pictures of the nations in North Africa showing appreciation for President Obama.
Libyan Rebels chant "Thank You Obama" "Thank you Cameron",
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread679413/pg1
Rebel fighter Abdul Mahim Massoud shouted from the front seat: "Kadafi's people are killing us with tanks and rockets! We need your planes! Thank you, America! Thank you, France
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/mar/22/world/la-fg-libya-fighting-20110322
Libyan rebels want Khadafy alive; leaders say they want colonel to face punishment for his crimes
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2011/03/21/2011-03-21_libyan_rebels_want_khadafy_alive_leaders_say_they_want_colonel_to_face_punishmen.html#ixzz1HfcMZIpe
http://english.aljazeera.net/video/
At 1: 18 sec they will say Merci Obama
Don’t forget his reception in Ireland
We got Healthcare Anniversary cake, drinks, music, and friends. It's a celebration.
But be fair. Think what would have happened if Washington had taken the lead in declaring a no-fly-zone over Libya without UN agreement or Arab backing.
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/adrian-hamilton/adrian-hamilton-obama-is-wise-to-keep-his-distance-2250988.html
VASTLY IMPROVED GLOBAL STANDING.
In 2009 and 2010, the first two years of the Obama administration, the U.S. now once again is out in front.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2011_03/028609.php
All of these are better than pictures that Bush got lobbed against his head
And for that I am a proud, unabashed, and a loyal supporter to my fellow Chicagoan.
Do you like Healthcare Anniversary cake?
I am glad you are so happy. Keep thinking the good times will continue with borrowed money. The President is acting irresponsibly when it comes to this country's financial future. None of what you seem to be so happy about has any relevance or substance in terms of providing leadership when it comes to dealing with this nations most serious issues. You keep following the Piped Piper of spending and see where you end up. You better re-read what is going on in Portugal as we are not to far behind that day right here in the USA. Enough people will understand that the spending is out of control and a change at the top is needed. Obama needs to take a lesson from Harry Truman, "The Buck Stops Here". You not understanding what that means and continuing to look backwards is not a concern. However, we have a President doing the same thing which is a real problem for this nation. Obama will continue to eat his own words, and the day will come when you will as well.
Good afternoon Tony C-2383666
I am glad you are so happy. Keep thinking the good times will continue with borrowed money. The President is acting irresponsibly when it comes to this country's financial future. None of what you seem to be so happy about has any relevance or substance in terms of providing leadership when it comes to dealing with this nations most serious issues. You keep following the Piped Piper of spending and see where you end up.
You better re-read what is going on in Portugal as we are not to far behind that day right here in the USA.
Stick a sock in it. You can talk your ears off; nonetheless your rhetoric does not face reality. The Republican/T-Baggers can't Govern; the sooner you learn the better off your worries will be rather being a political gadfly.
If that's the case, then you should read what the GOP/T-Baggers are doing to destroy this country economically and socially. Better yet you read what the populist are doing in London to oppose cuts. Eerily, it is similar to the thousands and thousands of people opposing union busting.
President Obama made it clear that he does not feel America must intervene every time there is unrest in the world.
a. Republicans seem less concerned with job creation than they are with using the budget battles to push a radical social issues. How many jobs have Republicans created? That would be NONE, ZERO, since this the third month of GOP control.
Union: GM to recall 2,000 laid-off workers
http://detnews.com/article/20110324/AUTO01/103240394/0/rss4331/Union--GM-to-recall-2-000-laid-off-workers
b. Republicans wanted GM to go bankrupt which, by the way, would have had an impact on other businesses.
c. Republican/T-Baggers were against building allies for libya and the UN resolution. In fact you righties want the building torn down. President Obama stressed the involvement of the international community. Also, President Obama reiterated that no ground forces would have been used in this operation, and confirmed that leadership of this effort will be handed over to NATO. Get it? There will be no "Cowboy Go it Along" un-excellent adventure in warfare and diplomacy.
I reiterate-- for that the President has restored our image and I'm proud of it. I prefer a cautious and measured approach. When celebrating rebels chanted "Thank you, Obama", "Thank you, Cameron" I view it as a much better image for the world than shoes being lobbed at George Bush's head.
But, you obviously being an informed low information person can only dismiss truthful opinions.
Did you even read this?--VASTLY IMPROVED GLOBAL STANDING.
In 2009 and 2010, the first two years of the Obama administration, the U.S. now once again is out in front.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2011_03/028609.php
Republican/T-Baggers don't respect the minority
FYI: Many people especially in Wisconsin regret voting Republican. This to me suggests most people think the Republican/T-Baggers are a bunch of bats. Next Republican/T-Baggers will be trying to bring back Debtor's Prisons I'll bet. Could this be? If you twitch the curtain back you'll be surprised at the darkness that lurks there.
Am I in the right place? lol
To quote the wild Alaskan ding bat... YOU BETCHA! lol
Bartender, will you get my friend a drink please?
PS: You're the only guy I know who's EVER asked for 'directions'! LOL
Mickey, NY This is the place. Friends, ambiance and laughs, this round is on me.
Thanks Tom... what are you drinking this evening?
Hey Fiesty! I think a glass of Cab. would hit the spot. Maybe I'll bring a bottle and pay the corkage, and also could somebody please turn that s&%# up. Ah, that's better.
Mickey, NY
Am I in the right place? lol
Hiya Mickey
Kick back I just cranked up the juke box.
Hey GF - Wanna dance?
Yes, you are Mickey!
Dang Tom your among friends you don't have to pay the corkage. But you better bring two cause I'm right sure the ladies are going to make you share.
[PS: You're the only guy I know who's EVER asked for 'directions'! LOL]
Well, I AM quite comfortable in my manhood...lol
And thanks Tom...I'll have a pint of your your finest Belgian White Ale...
I knew there was a reason I was attracted to you! ;o)
Let's have some shots shall we & get this party started!
[Let's have some shots shall we & get this party started!]
I could use a half dozen or so...I spent a very entertaining afternoon outing keck and VoteDemOut!! as well as a guy who I figured out was using three different names to post under...armatures, all of 'em.
...armatures...lol...so much for spellcheck!
Come on in and take a load off there New York. Just don't get offended when the waitress doesn't recognize the accent right off stick with it. Red tells me I'm not supposed to warn you about the Inkman.
Redneck... SSHHH... we all got ourselves some 'ink' K?
IR:
[Just don't get offended when the waitress doesn't recognize the accent.]
Accent? But I ain't got no accent...
[Red tells me I'm not supposed to warn you about the Inkman.]
Inkman?!? Uh oh...that can't be good...I'll have to beware...she may try to get me drunk...that's all I need...waking up the next morning with ANOTHER tattoo on my ass..
Mickey - I'll see your ass tattoo and raise it...
Already got three.. LOL
[Mickey - I'll see your ass tattoo and raise it...]
Ohh, you little vixen, you...
Actually, I do have tats, but not on my ass...
Mickey I get the biggest kick out of going North and some sweet young thang asks me to repeat my drink order two or three times 'cause "I just love to hear you Hillbilly's talk" Couldn't resist. Shucks don't worrry we'll just make sure you go home with both cheeks matching
MEOW!! Purrrr....
IR, I've been down South and had to ask for repeats...slooooow repeats...it took a while, but I finally settled in and went with the flow.
Mickey I'll make sure that we get that Belgian on tap for you as soon as I can. Till then you'll just have to settle for bottles. Anyway welcome to the Dew Drop Inn. Only rule that I try to follow on Friday evening is the Redneck 11th commandment "Thy shall not take Thyself to dang seriously"
Mickey, NY
IR, I've been down South and had to ask for repeats...slooooow repeats...it took a while, but I finally settled in and went with the flow.
Mickey, I love conversating with IR. He always brings the southern roots of my grand parents and relatives way of talking out. Dyammm, I feel good! I had a few before I got here can't you tell. I getting giddy. Come on let's dance. Papa's got a brand new bag. Ain't you glad you came on Mickey?
I hope I wasn't misinterpreted, or that I didn't misspeak...or maybe you just misunderestimated me? lol
Really, I wasn't poking fun at IR, I was poking fun at myself. ;)
And yes...I'm glad I was invited!
Good Morning Everyone!
Ahhhh... GOOD TIMES last night 4 sure!
And miraculously tattoo free! ;o)
There's fresh roasted Colombian & warm Caramel Crunch coffee cake in the atrium @ the Come Back Inn if anyones interested!
Mickey Not to worry Bev was only trying to explain why a Big City Girl and a Old Country F@rt could take such great pleasure in getting together for a drink and a conversation. Only way you can insult an old Redneck is to call him late for breakfast and I see that Red has already taken care of that. Your sense of humor and perspective is appreciated and will be looked forward to in coming days up on the Hill.
Good Morning Everyone!
IR, thanks for the kind words...I'll be sure to NEVER call you late for brekkie.
Hopefully I will be able to add to the conversation in a positive way...if only getting a chuckle out of a few of you!
Off to feed the yardbirds!
Mickey, NY
I hope I wasn't misinterpreted, or that I didn't misspeak...or maybe you just misunderestimated me? lol
Really, I wasn't poking fun at IR, I was poking fun at myself. ;)
Never would I accuse you of that. I was trying to say how much I enjoy talking to IR because his dialect reminds me of my Southern relatives. Gosh, I hope the slams on me from the righties doesn't make you think I'm mean.
Have a nice afternoon and evening
Humanitarian Alert. The killing of civilians is getting worse. Why doesn't Obama admit what is going on in Syria? Why doesn't his stance on freedom fighters apply in Syria? Double speak from Obama as usual. You can stop a massacre if you act now. Your words, not mine.
So Tony: Is your plan to attach everyone who is having problems? Seems like it, or do you just like to bash Obama?
Tony C-2383666
Take it easy there Tony. You gon make your self sick. It's not the end of the world. You know.
Tony? Nite.nite...
Verno, It is not my plan that matters now is it? What I am asking is a fair question. If the justification is valid in one conflict, why not another? Questioning any President's policies is not bashing. This is something Obama supporters seem to not understand.
Bev, make myself sick? No way. If you think for one minute that just because I am willing to address issues that I feel strongly about it will have any impact on my health, you are wrong. But, thanks for caring. Even at my age, I run 2 miles a day. Old soldiers never die, they just fade away. Not yet in my case. This is fun to me. I enjoy this. Can't you tell?
Looks like I have another fan in KCMO?
One of the biggest entitlements is defense spending. It's off the table. We have geopolitical needs to address that in the long run will make our nation safer with more democracies seeding the globe -- more people talking out their problems instead of dictators suppressing them and their problems. So why don't we face the music and raise taxes to cover those expenditures? Sure, it will depress the economy. When you are not borrowing foreign money, money does not come in to create business and jobs. But why can't we earn that? The longer we put off cutting our debt the bigger chunk the interest bill will take out of what the government spends every year. Let the dollar drop so our exporters can bring in money by selling product.
We are currently 14.3 trillion dollars in debt!!! Independant, I guess that is what happens when you take a SURPLUS, go looking for missing WMD, OIL you still can't get, AND give FOUR TAX-CUTS to the RICHEST Americans. ADD TRIILLIONS to debt by passing spending bills by RECONCILIATION between 2002 and 2006 and NOW just ABSOLUTELY HATE that word. Maybe we can get a loan from GE. OVER $5 BILLION in U. S. INCOME, result? NO TAX OBLIGATION and over $300 MILLION TAX REFUND. They are kissing George Bush's feet.
of course our debt has NOTHING to do with the 5 TRILLION ADDED SINCE BELA PELOSI TOOK OVER CONGRESS....and the 3 TRILLION...soon to be 4.5 TRILLION that Obama has added to the debt...
the richest americans pay most of the taxes so people like you can get your government check..you should be kissing their feet for taking care of you
joe-3041821
of course our debt has NOTHING to do with the 5 TRILLION ADDED SINCE BELA PELOSI TOOK OVER CONGRESS....and the 3 TRILLION...soon to be 4.5 TRILLION that Obama has added to the debt...
the richest americans pay most of the taxes so people like you can get your government check..you should be kissing their feet for taking care of you
How old are Joe? Don't tell nobody else that. They'll think you are either naivee or just plain ole dumb.
Rich people don't pay taxes or they get loop holes.
Halliburton
GE owes nothing to Uncle Sam for the tax year of 2010. Yup, nada, zilch, squat. In fact, GE actually received a tax BENEFIT of $3.2 BILLION dollars from our government in 2010.
http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474979162446
Big Oil giant Exxon Mobil, which last year reported a record $45.2 billion profit, paid the most taxes of any corporation, but none of it went to the IRS:
It's us peons who are paying the corporate income tax.
Hell, those suckers ought to be kissing us all over; not just our feet.
You really have zero understanding of most things. All you know how to do is complain and rant about this or that. Typical looser. The current tax code is the problem. The tax code is over 7000 pages long, not very easy to understand and confusing. You should relate to that as you support the healthcare law which is exactly the same. GE paying zero corporate taxes is an issue. However, what GE was able to accomplish is legal. Lets hope the government will audit their returns and make sure. All your rants and hateful dialog does nothing, which seems to be your style. The individual tax laws need to be reformed as well as it is just as unfair as the corporate tax code. You may want to suggest to Obama that he speak directly to Jeff Emelt, after all Jeff is one of Obama's advisors.
There will be no shutdown.
"Little Big Headed Timmy" will just print more Monopoly money, on Chinese paper.
Well, just ran across this little item
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/51949.html
I post this for the benefit of any who expect us to take Media Matters seriously.
This is no news outlet, folks.
Propaganda and high school tricks, yes. News?
Unh unh.
To quote your Saint 'Dick' Cheney... SO?
You really are losing IT NJNB!
I hope Jody, Iowa makes use of the link, no jo.
I still remember her arguing that "Mediamatters is not biased..."
Of course they aren't.
lol
Geez, Feisty, what is it that the very biased right wing can't get about the evils of Fox and what it has done to news? This has nothing to do with Media Matters being biased, it has to do with forcing Fox to come clean about who and what they are, FACTUALLY, which is an alien term to no jo and Fox. If no jo had EVER been in Europe, she would recognize Fox for the tabloid style news endemic there, but that would require TRAVEL. Later, Feisty!
If only they had the reach of say a Fake Cable News Media outlet. Then they could REALLY do some 'damage', eh?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
The Rebals won a major victory overnight in a key Gee-I'm-Daffy occupied town, coaltion jets took out 20 tanks as the rebels advanced. Rebels were seen dancing on the tanks chanting 'Thank you Obama, Thank you Cameron'
All without a single boot on the ground and without the US having to take the lead. Yes 'Thank You Obama" indeed.
The delay for consultation, consensus and coalition building (or dither as the GOP call it), may actual be helping.
It stretched Gee-i'm-daffy forces across Lybia making them easier to pick off. I am hoping they are less conentrated in Tripoli where the real battle will take place.
Apparently Obama has picked a side in a civil war.
He is going to kill some of our military kids, saving Libyans.
He has committed an unprovoked attack ona nothersovereign nation and done so illegally, in the process.
Call your elected legislators and urge them to start impeachmnet proceedings immediately.
Republicans, failure to do so, will be painful at election time.
Hey, Wilburn. Great idea. Let's also impeach George Bush for killing all our soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. After all,can't be one sided in this, can you? Let's see, Obama haskilled 0 in Lybia, George Bush 7,000 ( and counting) so far. Hell, let's just impeach 'em all!
FRED-------- sorry sunshine, the libbies are the only ones that have that time machine that allows them to journey back in to the pst as a defense for Obama.
The rest of us are restricted to dealing with things they way they are.
What we have to do is impeach the low life lying quasi socilaist in the white house, before he kills some more of our military kids and borrows more money to shoot cruise missilles sat China, Syria, or N Korea.
Socialist??? Maybe you mean,,,,,,Socially Responsible???
Socialist is usually reserved for Republican Nations as propaganda,,,,,,,You know,,,Socialist Republic?
Peoples (socialist) Republic of China
United Soviet Socialist Republic
Here's a good one for ya, Not all Republicans are Communists
..............................................But ALL Communist are Republicans
How about the fact that Hitler and Nazism were formed as a REPUBLIC
Communist Manifesto?? Written by,,,,,,,A Republican (From the same Republic that produced out Hitler)
No lies here, This is from HISTORY!!!! Look it up!!!!
Take an ACORN Community Agitator from the streets of Chicago who had acquired nothing more than a skill at reading a teleprompter; a man congenitally imbued to view America as the greatest evil in the world; a man fanatically intent on the re-distribution of America's wealth; a man who for more than 20yrs was willingly injected with the incendiary and venomous rhetoric of Jeremiah Wright's church; a man who has publically declared his intent to cripple America's energy sector; a man who has demonstrated a consistent bias in favor of the Muslim venue; a man with an oft expressed contempt for our Constitution, calling it "fundamentallly flawed"; and, install him in the Presidency of the United States, and you're destined to suffer the international humiliation, and domestic morass into which America is currently submerged. Greg Neubeck
Hahahahaha,,,,,,,,What planet are you from?
Bo, Gary's post was taken right from the Beck/Limbaugh playbook.
Gary's been a busy worker bee today, running from thread to thread spreading his manure.
The following response to Greg, is courtesy of a good friend:
Never let a convenient "crisis" go to waste. That goes for ALL politicians! All these "side-shows" won't matter a hill of beans if we default and go bankrupt. Worthless currency...we would have our own "Egypt" at our front door that would make all other chaotic meltdowns look like a garden party.
These spineless, self-serving jerks in Washington could care less about this country's future or any of us "little guys." They only care about NOT pissing off their constituents. Disgraceful and pathetic. I swear, the drinking water in Washington has been spiked with the insidious drug that chemically CASTRATES.
Throw all these bums out, starting with you-know-who!
Libya??? Hmmmm,,,,,,The no fly zone is in effect and secured, Not one person lost their life or was injured, There is no doubt nor argument it was deserved by Kad-daffy and needed and appreciated by the libyan protestors and Rebels, but in reality it was done by NATO and the Allied Nations to immediately stop the shelling and bombing of cities filled with innocent civilians
A little late to argue about it now, Obama was well within his job title and proves once again he is deserving of his Nobel and the respect the USA has gained worldwide since he gained office.
If the GOP would stand up and take notice they would see the simple fact that they are on a suicide course within their own party,
30% of the protestors in Wisconsin WERE registered Republican voters who are now screaming for Walker's removal from office, How many Registered Republicans nationwide are in Unions???
$100 billion reduction in the deficit traded for $600 billion in taxcuts in which the average workingclass American gained $5.50 a week (a Happy Meal)
Alienation of Blacks, Hispanics, Women, Unions, Workingclass nationwide, The unemployed, Old, Disabled, Disabled Vets
Not ONE job creation idea let alone legislation which could create jobs
Rejection of Obamacare, But only the sections they contributed themselves
The Republican Party has become an embarrassment to themselves, the USA, and to the World
Vote democratic for a better America "2012"
LOL yeah the democrats have done wonders for detroit...and the entire country....why do you want to turn the rest of the country into a wasteland like detroit?
Great post, Bo. Reading your list above--who will be left to vote for them? Social conservatives and the really wealthy---is that enough?
15 trillion debt, three wars, feds states, can't afford to stay open , job recovery not happening, oil prices all time high , recipe for bnk-rpt coming to a town near you
There is one huge difference between Libya and every other country. I am surprised that I have heard no one mention it. Kaddafi has admitted culpabilty for the Lockerbie murders. Further, Libya has a group of its own citizens fighting and dying to win their freedom. Kaddafi agreed to pay reparations to the rest of the world for Lockerbie but has not done so. If fact, according to documents leaked by Wikileaks, he was extorting the money for that (bloodmoney) from Western and American companies that were going into Libya for business. And bush and Obama were acting as matchmakers setting American businesses up with this butcher. Shame on bush and Obama. I expect as much from the bush family. After all, they were okay with doing business with the Nazis during WWII. But I expected more from Obama. But there should be no troops on the ground in Libya. So far, Obama has gotten this one right. I just hope he doesn't fumble it. But Syria or Jordan? No way. Saudi Arabia? Absolutely not. The primary function of ANY government is to provide for the defense and well-being of their citizenry. These regimes under fire have every one failed and it's time for them to have their power stripped from them. Can anyone here remeber the Declaration of Independence? We should leave these countries alone and let them settle their problems. We have NO BUSINESS deciding who rules half-way around the world. If we hadn't started playing god over there after WWII , this mess might have already been resolved. Let them resolve it now. It's their part of the world. If it becomes necesary for us to combat our own government, how would we feel about China propping up Obama or Newt Gingrich or Haley Barbour or even worse, (shudder) Sarah Paler? Leave then alone.
Your not serious! Libya is not in focus. No one has even thought out this (non) war, as Barack Hussein Obama would have you believe. Definietly not in focus.