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FILE - Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn, speaks during a Tea Party town hall meeting at the National Press Club in Washington last month.
From NBC's Domenico Montanaro and Luke Russert
Two people close to Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) say she has not made a decision yet on whether she will run for president.
"At this point," one source said, "the decision has not been made."
That said, Bachmann appears to be leaning in the direction of running, or at least forming an exploratory committee.
"There are definitely steps that have progressed," the Bachmann source said. She will make a decision likely this summer, the source said.
CNN reported that Bachmann will form an exploratory committee in June and possibly earlier. The sources would not confirm -- nor deny the story.
Why? Consider: the news of her potential run comes on a day in which she's making a speech today in Iowa.
Republicans unaffiliated with a 2012 GOP campaign believe this is a way for Bachmann to keep her name in the news and increase her visibility -- in an effort to get her visibility and poll numbers up, thereby improving her viability.
In other words: She's seriously considering a run, she's putting out feelers, and if she believes she has a shot, she'll do it.
The official statement from Bachmann's office is as follows: "The Congresswoman is grateful for all the encouragement she's received. She will make a decision about 2012 this summer. There is a natural timeline to these events and they will run their course."
A GOP fundraising source speaking on background tells NBC: "She's been in Iowa a ton and can definitely raise money, we think with her millions she could definitely launch a presidential bid. She has people in position to do it."
Ed Brookover, a political consultant who has worked with Bachmann since she first ran for the House in 2003, said that Bachmann is "being aggressive in her planning process."
Another source close to Bachmann said she'll continue to travel to the early states of Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Florida and that she has authorized her staff to talk to individuals in those states who could help in the event that she does run for president.
The source also contends that Bachmann has a donor base of close to 160,000, quite a large number and a good place to start if she were to run.
She has been in Iowa since Tuesday and will head back to Minnesota tomorrow. She will return to Iowa Saturday.
*** UPDATE *** NBC's Catherine Chomiak notes what Bachmann herself said about a potential bid on a radio program today:
"I'm in to make sure that Barack Obama is a one term president just like we're all happy that Jimmy Carter didn't have a second term. I'm in for that and I'll be making a decision about whether or not I will be a candidate by sometime this summer because I think it's important that a candidate participates in the Iowa straw poll."
*** UPDATE 2 *** CNN also reported that Iowa state Sen. Kent Sorenson "has been hired to be Bachmann's political director for the state." But Sorenson tells First Read he has "not been hired." He said he has been traveling with her for the past two to three days, wants her to run, is encouraging her to run, thinks she's "leaning in that direction," and that if she does he would likely be part of her campaign.
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Stop Obamulating and make a decision
When someone can prove to me that this woman truly has a brain, I may then at least listen to what she has to say. And I'm dead serious about this.
Right now, everything that comes out of her mouth = noise...kinda like a dog with brain infected pavel disease.
Although, I think Palin belongs no where near public office, I would surmise that Bachmann rivals her... probably a lil worse.
Reallly, she stupid?
Say Tundie how do you explain the fact that she passed the bar?
Would you agree that is kinda tuff? Maybe she just got lucky?
I get you don't like her, but come on she graduated college, law school and passed the bar. It certainly does not make her a rocket scientist, but stupid?
Comedic relief aside Tunde, I have to wonder how BIG her ego is to think she stands a chance?
Bachmann/Palin 2012 - Dazed & Delusional!
Steve-505729
Stop Obamulating and make a decision
Ummm, Stevei-o it is not Obamulating. President employs intelligent, critical thinking, and careful determinations. Michelle Bachmann, on the other hand, has the thought process of a Smurf, like her big mouth girlfriend, Sarah Palin.
Those 2 have the thought process everyday speech of Smurfs. And they use Smurf language; seemingly. Only t-baggers understand the kiddie language of Bachmann and Palin omissions of current and historical thoughts they omit.
Spanky, actually even though she passed the bar... you gotta at least admit it though, she sounds kinda dumb (maybe it's an act???).... the only type of women you guys on the right have to offer (with the loudest mega-phone) are:
- Sara Palin,
- Bachmann,
- Sharon Angle,
- Witch lady (what's her name again)...
doesn't that just demean the republican women? I think it does..... because people like Olympia Snow and Collins seem to actually think before they vote.... they better represent what republicans should be like.
Ever heard of "book smart common sense poor"? This woman may be a lawyer (though there are a LOT of stupid lawyers out there), has a disconnect in her brain between reality and her mental processes. She can spout inaccurate information all day long and her adoring fans fall for all of it... but then someone crashes her party and points out how wrong she IS (with facts to back them up) and she STILL stands by her original statements. That, my friend, I call an idiot.... or at least a self-serving politican who will say or do anything to stay in the lime-light. Her own party (Rep) don't really like her for this same reason, but they are so afraid of the tea-baggers, they fall all over themselves to kiss her #$%.
Intelligent Critical Thinking..
You mean like Leaving the Country as he send our Men and Women off to another WAR........... Yea thats critical Thinking..
Tundie it would appear you have answered you own question, i.e. you know better.
So why did you choose to leave Collins and Snowe off your list? And really, those are the only republican women out there? Why no, you listed others.
But you point is she is stupid. So it was just luck - the college, law school and bar?
P.S. Pelosi sounds kinda dumb "we have to pass it to see what's in it." That was all good? Ever heard Boxer speak?
Oh and what exactly "should republicans be like" Tundie? Do tell, cause we tend to forget apparently.
lol Spanky... now you are being silly.
Have a good day buddy. (besides I mentioned Collins and Snow - you seemed to have missed that)
What's the matter Tundie it's only fun to use terms like "what republicans should be like" as long as you don't have to actually explain what you meant.
I thought better of you Tundie. My mistake.
And I do understand your not wanting to back up Pelosi or Boxer.
Passing the bar only means that she is good at taking tests, but maybe 'stupid' is not the correct word to describe this woman. I would describe her as 'bat sh*t'! I would love for her to run against Obama...that would make his re-election soooo much easier. I'm just sayin'.
Well Spanky, if Michelle Bachmann isn't stupid then she sure thinks that the general public is. I saw her on two different interviews (PBS & Fox) within a couple of days and both times she was holding up a sign with some number and a bunch of zeros on it to make her point about govt. spending. I've never seen somebody latch onto a talking point quite like that and then just pound it over and over and over again regardless of the questions asked or context of the conversation. It's like an artillery assault on your senses and an insult to intelligence of the American people...
I'm all for cutting the budget, and the deficit, in a substantial and thoughtful way but anyone using flashcards to make a political argument is either operating at a 4th grade mental capacity or thinks that their audience is... Judy Woodruff looked like she wanted to reach through the screen and shake Bachmann to death every time she held up her stupid little sign.
What Judy should have done is ask Bachmann ,"Without looking at that stupid card you keep holding up or being prompted the answer from the sidelines, tell us how many zeros are in a Trillion."
Trump is just another loser like Bachman and Palin. I don't see anyone in my party that 1) makes sense when they make statements, 2) know facts instead of spouting non-truths, 3) knows what to do to get America moving forward again. Most of what I am seeing from my party "leaders" are morons without a thought of how to proceed, but with the determination to have the "teabaggers" tell them what they should be thinking/doing without upsetting the "apple-cart" so that they can continue to be elected. I might remind those morons that if they had run someone other than brainless teabaggers in some of the senate races (Angle, for instance), both Houses of Morons would be in Republican hands...though I still doubt that they would know what to do.
Steve,
First: We didn't go to war. This is a U.N. action.
Second: Members of Congress actually were briefed prior to the first shot, regardless of what you're hearing from people who have their own agendas.
Third: The Latin America trip is to increase our exports, which relates to creating and expanding U.S. Jobs. Yes, jobs, like the GOP campaigned on and hasn't done squat or even talked about about since they assumed the majority. Latin America is a huge emerging market for goods and services. I suppose you'd rather that Europe and Asia got all their business deals instead of the U.S. preventing our economy from improving and showing the White House as doing something positive about jobs so the GOP has a better shot in 2012 and beyond.
"And I do understand your not wanting to back up Pelosi or Boxer.:
Why do you feel the need to turn the subject(s) to Boxer and Pelosi? Was the story about them?? Why did you feel the need to redirect the attention to the discussion about Bachamann's status of 'stupid' or 'not stupid'. See- now you have people posting about heart surgeons and everyting else!
Don't confuse him with facts...his head will explode
"What Judy should have done is ask Bachmann ,"Without looking at that stupid card you keep holding up or being prompted the answer from the sidelines, tell us how many zeros are in a Trillion.""
THat would be pretty low down and dirty. That would be as despicable as asking her, oh, I don' t know- what papers she reads??
We didnt go to war> What do you call dropping Bombs on another country? if its a UN action why are we leading it? and why does obama want to Pass off the lead to it as Quick as possible. Anytime you put Our Military in Harms way. Its war... i dont care how you wish to discribe it
Maybe this is too complicated for you Steve. WAR is a legal condition. The declaration of war by Congress changes the rules by which we fight and how we civilians live during the period of war time. Military action and hostilities are not a declaration of war. They may be actions similar to war, but if you think that this is a distinction without a difference you are both ignorant and wrong.
True,
I can handle the Names. and the Ignoring. Still wont stop me from posting Facts...
Good response Steve (name calling on these boards should be better tamed)... just remember that when you post facts... let them be actually facts..
You know that some republicans on this board are complaining that we are not leading the effort in Libya, while some are complaining that we are not leading it; see: "if its a UN action why are we leading it? and why does obama want to Pass off the lead to it as Quick as possible."... which is it?
True,
you know that Vietnam was never a Declared war either. but the men and women of our Military Concider it a war as does our Nation. IE. the Vietnam WAR Mermorial. How many Veterans of Foriegn wars do we have. I am sure these Liberals on this page would be Glad to Tell them that they are not of VETERAN of War. just a Participant in Miltary Action......... They can Describe it however they want. but i will Describe these Men as Veterans of a War............. and Patriots............ and Heros.............
From a Tea Party supporter and thoughtful conservative, this self-aggrandizing narcissistic nincompoop of a windbag needs to stay home in 2012.
True,
My Father was a Veteran of WWII and the Korean War, he spent 26.5 Years in the Navy 18 of them Loaned to the Marines as a Corpsmen. God Bless your Father. and I thank him for his Service...
Steve being an ignorant isn't name-calling, it is pointing out the fact of his mental condition. It is a condition which he can change, if he has the mental fortitude to do so.
Yea Paul.
so tell me are the Men and women who fought in Vietnam. a War that was never Declared Veterans of a Foriegen War? Do we have a Vietnam WAR memorial? You know in tha war taht was never Declared.. ?
Just want to make sure i get all the FACTS correct there Paul. Is it only a WAR when YOU decide its one?
I would love to see a new poll on whether the US is ready for a female President. It would also be interesting to see a break down by political party. I am sure there are misogynist in both parties, but I have always gotten the impression that there are more on the right side of the aisle. Could a female candidate make it through Republican primaries? Not saying it is impossible, but its unfortunate if they have to start at a disadvantage that could be difficult to overcome.
Spanky,
Half the people who pass the bar pass at the bottom half of the class. Some even lower. I don't know where she actually ranked but based on some of her comments I've seen on TV I can take a wild guess!
And what's with that wild eyed look?
Paul-977599 -
Many of us have learned to ignore Spanky and TA. They are sh1t-pot stirrers, agents provocateurs essentially, who come along simply to spread the Obama-bashing. There is NOTHING this President can do they would approve of. They distort and lie and spread propaganda. And they LOVE dragging the discussion off topic. Some folk opine that the more responss they get, the better their pay.
But when you ignore them, they go bonkers. Just little angry mousies who stamp they little tiny feet, and soil the carpet.
She's not stupid she's a liar.
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/michele-bachmann/
True American-2367375
He waited for weeks actually deciding whether we needed to go to war; its a tough decision - one that should not be taken lightly. If to you being decisive is to go in, start shooting an ask questions later, then we can bring Bush back for you. You have to know what you are getting into, the risks from all perspective.
Asking the current congress what to do? that must have been a joke. I bet you a million bucks that instead of congress actually thinking about what's best to do, they will politic the situation while lives are lost in Libya... and I'm 100% certain you will come back here and complain that the president is not taking the lead.
Trunde,
At least you admit that the President is taking us to War. Perhaps you can share that bit of Wisdom of yours with Paul?
It technically isn't a war, it is a conflict under the War Power Act of 1973. As long as Obama notifies Congress within 48 hours he can commit military resources for up to 60 days (plus another 30 for a withdrawal) without an authorization from Congress. The US Congress has only declared war 5 times in the history of the country, with the last being World War II. Neither Afghanistan or Iraq were declared wars, they were authorizations to use the military.
Bachmann is living, breathing PROOF that you can send a jackass to college and it will still come back a jackass!
I have my doubts that fundamentalist-religious schools like Oral Roberts where Bachmann got her law degree are as focused on real academics as real colleges.
The stuff she says publicly suggests her grasp of American history and science isn't up to the level of the average 8th-grader. It really calls into question how she qualified for a law degree.
She is how conservatives like their women, with as little between the ears as possible. The things that come out of the mouth Megyn Kelly or Gretchen Carlson are almost surreal. Beauty pageant winners? Really?
This is going to be fun watching the Republicans try to find a candidate to nominate. Nothing will get by without the tea party's endorsement and we all know that person will have to be a real right wing lunatic.
AtomicZeppelinMan
Oh, the airhead leg show at Fox? Well, it's not so much the things that come out of the mouth as the things that go into the mouth that make the difference. Lots between the ears as possible...
Steve 505...: you're absolutely correct about Viet Nam. It was a military action--never declared a war.
Oh, I love a parade. So, Bachmann thinks she's hot? Okay, give the lady the limelight. Boy, I thought Sarah was going to be a big deal, but this woman has her beat in the dizzy department! This coming Republican convention is going to be an event to remember--for sure!
Okay, who's next? Oops! I need more lemonade and sunscreen!
Tunde Akins
"When someone can prove to me that this woman truly has a brain"
Oh, you mean like both Obamas who supposedly have law degrees but neither has a license to practice law?
WHat lawyer willingly gives up his license to practice law? None with a brain or a clue. The only ones who do were in violation of their oath to uphold the law. That would be the Obamas.
When will the left start doing their own research on the bobble heads they elect? Probably never. Too busy running up debt, whining because they want more but too lazy to work for it, thinking everyone else owes them something.
Bottom line: lazy, uninformed, think MSNBC is their brain, uneducated in subjects that matter, and did I say lazy? Liberal Arts is a copout education pursued by those who never wanted a real job. Political science isn't even about science. It is about those who never wanted a real job.
My guess is that most who vote for leftists never wanted a real job, think someone else owes them a living, and, for the most part are lazy. Prove me wrong if you can with something other than "just because."
Of course those leftists who have the guts to respond won't provide a single statistic to back anything they say, because they can't.
I have provided so much proof over the couple of years I have been on the vine, that has been totally ignored by the left, without so much as a response, that it is almost conclusive that the majority of the whiners have no skill at googling anything, much less the truth.
BTW, google is a leftist site. LOL
hahahahahahaaaa.....stare into the camera michelle and keep telling everyone, "your eyes are getting heavy and you're feeling very tired", hahahahahaaa....the woman is a KOOK, WACK JOB, and a LIAR with no common sense and alot of nonsense and the only palce she could ever be elected would be Minnesota because of the brain freeze of winter......run michele run.....hahahaaaa......hahahaa....TEA Party = Tax Evading Americans Party
Bob Randall-1218482....
Wow, what a loaded response, filled with mud slinging...but all you've said i (let me summarize it for you: The left and Obama suck.... shheezzz, is that all you got? Wheew, I feel bad for you.
You better hide under your bed, the guberment is coming to get you, through google. It's the Obama's master plan.
If you think I'm (or anyone else here is) ill-educated, you can always look up my (or their) previous posts.... please do... you may learn a thing or two. Good night Mr. Randall...I know I will have one.
Kevin Q
hahahahahahaaaa.....stare into the camera michelle and keep telling everyone, "your eyes are getting heavy and you're feeling very tired", hahahahahaaa....the woman is a KOOK, WACK JOB, and a LIAR with no common sense and alot of nonsense and the only palce she could ever be elected would be Minnesota because of the brain freeze of winter......run michele run.....hahahaaaa......hahahaa....TEA Party = Tax Evading Americans Party
That is funny from the party of tax exemptions. Feel free to tell us why you don't deserve to pay taxes while other do? No hurry, you won't make case, ever. Why because you have no clue. If you do show up you will try to explain you stupidity.
Tunde Akins
Bob Randall-1218482....
Wow, what a loaded response, filled with mud slinging...but all you've said i (let me summarize it for you: The left and Obama suck.... shheezzz, is that all you got? Wheew, I feel bad for you.
You better hide under your bed, the guberment is coming to get you, through google. It's the Obama's master plan.
If you think I'm (or anyone else here is) ill-educated, you can always look up my (or their) previous posts.... please do... you may learn a thing or two. Good night Mr. Randall...I know I will have one.
Tunde Akins
Bob Randall-1218482....
Wow, what a loaded response, filled with mud slinging...but all you've said i (let me summarize it for you: The left and Obama suck.... shheezzz, is that all you got? Wheew, I feel bad for you.
You better hide under your bed, the guberment is coming to get you, through google. It's the Obama's master plan.
If you think I'm (or anyone else here is) ill-educated, you can always look up my (or their) previous posts.... please do... you may learn a thing or two. Good night Mr. Randall...I know I will have one.
Tunde Akins, I really doubt your education. Maybe in politiCAL "SCIENCE" which isn't a science, ro liberal arts, which have nothing to do with art.
I don't need to defend my stand, because I already have. You won't defend your stand because you have no stand, other than leftist want something for nothing, probably bring race into it, wannabe.
Come back? Doubt you will.
Most real Americans will vote for a woman who has a law license than a mulatto that lost his over suspicious circumstances.
Do the dummy and vote for a fool again.
"Oh, you mean like both Obamas who supposedly have law degrees but neither has a license to practice law?WHat lawyer willingly gives up his license to practice law? None with a brain or a clue. The only ones who do were in violation of their oath to uphold the law. That would be the Obamas."
Bob- You are incorrect. Maintaining a law (or medical or any other professional) license is expensive. There is continuing education that costs time and money, and there are license fees every year. If you aren't going to use it because you are working as say, president of the US and first lady, you might choose not to renew it. You can choose to search the Illinois Bar Association to see or see here for the whole story: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/lawlicenses.asp
Michelle Bachman = Sarah Palin "light".
I fully support an all female GOP Ticket.
Palin/Bachman 2012 Fasten your seatbelts
Yea well she has millions as the article states, so does the janitor that won lotto, is this supposed to be the new measure of a persons character or integrity? How on earth she thinks that she has the qualifications to be the commander in chief of the armed forces is beyond me. She at most may be a spoiler in a three way run. As far as passing the Bar, sombody had to graduate at the bottom of the class!
Personally, I hope the vacuous twit runs. I have a sock puppet that would have a better chance then her.
The only problem I see with Ms. Bachman running is that she will, by comparison, make the likes of Mr. Barbour and Mr. Pawlenty appear to be Rhodes scholars.
I believe there is a quotation, "better to not speak and be thought unintelligent than to speak and remove all doubt," which is all to appropriate for the Congresswoman.
Ms. Bachman better not lean any further to the right, she'll fall over.
HA :D
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(Old joke, but I could not resist given the headline.)
did Obama lose his law license, when did that happen?
@Dont: The President voluntarily gave up his license (retired) since he was not practicing as an attorney.
Mr Randall,
Wrong again, I do not have a degree in Liberal Arts or Political Science... I care about the country that's why I pay attention to politics....
...let me give you a hint..... I tutored all calculus levels while in college... and also tutored graduate applied maths courses, while I was younger. Ok a better hint: if you own a car, I must have helped design at least one integrated circuit (i.e. chip to you) in it...if you own a cell phone, I probably have help produce at least one chip in it. Also, I have a graduate level degree.... so you do the math... and guess again Sir.
What a completely inept thing to say...Mr Randall, is this a joke, or are you for real? I'm truly wondering.
Bobs points:
1. "Oh, you mean like both Obamas who supposedly have law degrees but neither has a license to practice law? WHat lawyer willingly gives up his license to practice law? None with a brain or a clue. The only ones who do were in violation of their oath to uphold the law. That would be the Obamas."
"Maintaining a law (or medical or any other professional) license...costs time and money, and there are license fees every year. If you aren't going to use it because you are working as say, president of the US and first lady, you might choose not to renew it." -- Dr. Dr.
Then again maybe you are correct about Obama's law violations are the reason why he is our president rather than a licensed lawyer. Great point! Way to analyze!
2. "When will the left start doing their own research on the bobble heads they elect? Probably never. Too busy running up debt, whining because they want more but too lazy to work for it, thinking everyone else owes them something. Bottom line: lazy, uninformed, think MSNBC is their brain, uneducated in subjects that matter, and did I say lazy? Liberal Arts is a copout education pursued by those who never wanted a real job. Political science isn't even about science. It is about those who never wanted a real job. My guess is that most who vote for leftists never wanted a real job, think someone else owes them a living, and, for the most part are lazy. Prove me wrong if you can with something other than 'just because.'"
When will you realize that watching Fox news and visiting conspiracy sites on the internet is not research; nor is reading something and forgetting to analyze and checking the legitimacy of your information. Even those who have the "lazy" liberal arts degree realize that. Not to mention political science majors who at sometime or another used peer reviewed literature to do research. The problem is some people don't want to do the work to fact check themselves. Be careful because some might call that lazy. Oh, and heres an idea: before you ask to be proven wrong provide some details to support your wild assertions.
3. Of course those leftists who have the guts to respond won't provide a single statistic to back anything they say, because they can't.
Did not take guts, just a good sense of humor. Btw, where were your statistics, let alone facts or details supporting your claims.
4. I have provided so much proof over the couple of years I have been on the vine, that has been totally ignored by the left, without so much as a response, that it is almost conclusive that the majority of the whiners have no skill at googling anything, much less the truth. BTW, google is a leftist site. LOL
This must be why you feel as if you are exempt from providing any evidence to back your recent posts. And by this time, I am really considering whether your last comment was serious or not. Google for the most part is a database that uses formulas to display results. But, since Math and science has a liberal bias you might be right. Evil Scientists!!!
Way to go Tunde Akins. That'll keep him busy 'cipherin' fer awhile.
I'm actually a bit surprised that the women's groups in America haven't come out against Palin and Bachmann, as these two have done more to stall women's liberation and equality than anyone else I can think of. Some people were actually considering the possibility of a female president, like Clinton, but now? Maybe they're not quite ready yet. If they haven't got the guts to speak out against these two T&A candidates.
Yes! Oh please, oh please, oh please run! We need a little comical diversion...
It is a free country. Let her run, I can't wait for the SNL skits. I wonder who will play her role???
Y e e e s s s s s !!!
RUN, baby, RUN! Obama got himself in little bit of a jam in Libya right now, and I, for one, think anything that helps his slam-dunk re e elction is a good thing!
Sounds like another gig for Tina Fey
Tina Fey all the way...
". I wonder who will play her role???"
Edith Bunker?? No, wait- Edith knew when to stiffle herself.....
Bachmann/Palin 2012!
All the WAAYY!
The original twisted sista's! lol
First Read: You got ANYTHING on energy?
1. Drill, Brazil, Drill?
2. Reduction in domestic production due to gulf prohibition?
3. $5.00 by summer?
4. Number of Volts sold last month?
Nope - just more catnip for the liberal army for social justice. All Right!
Actually, Kristin Wiig already does her pretty well on SNL:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v7LOCEotWk
Guys, I actually kinda disagree with you a lil bit.... this woman should be no where near the red button. (not a life-time away... possibly 6 or 7 college degrees away).
She's proven to be a little less intellectually capable.... by her running, it just shows the rest of the world what the US politic has become = A complete joke.
I would rather some sensible republican/conservative run, so then we can discuss true differences between the candidates ideologies, when debating president Obama.... maybe people will start tuning in and once again driving the agenda of congress.
With Bachmann running, all we would here about is: birther, muslim, terrorist, socialist, death panels, congressional investigations, kenya, madrassa.... etc....etc... I know I could continue forever with this.
So Tundie you seem very familiar with her, do you know her? Ever spoken with her?
Is the sum and substance of your knowledge of her what you see on the TV?
By the way what did it show the world when say Jesse Jackson ran? Al Sharpton?
Say, how about John Edwards? Teddy Kennedy?
Spanky-
I've watched her speak on numerous occasions (MSNBC, FOXNEWS, and CNN) - and not just snippets, even before she became famous... and back then, I thought there was a screw loose - like I said earlier, it may be all an act to get the attention... but tis what i see; and the only thing I can judge her by.
yes
I'm actually equal opportunity here... I don't think either had any business running for president. Jackson even more so than Sharpton, but all the same to me.
Don't know too much about Kennedy's run, but I'm so glad John Edwards lost to Obama.... he would have been a total disgrace to the nation - he actually is a total disgrace - not because he had an affair... but just the way it all ensued i.e. dying wife with cancer, and him trying to cover it up and lying. Just to think he was lying, , having an affair and running for president at the same time. John Edwards should be ashamed of himself.... he could have really made the US seem like a laughing stock around the world if he had won.
You are being a bit disingenious don't you think??? EVERY election has its crack-pots. Both parties are not immune. However, while you may not like the personal lives of Edwards or Kennedy, they certainly could stand up ANY day on intelligence with Mzzzz Bachman. Though I suppose they told as many lies as she has.. so you may have a point.. :-)
In addition Spanky, you ever spoken with ANY Presidential Candidate? I'm impressed if you have. The HUGE majority of us haven't and have to rely on research. I'm sure that iw what Tundie has done just as I have.
I appreciate your responses.
I doubt she ever counted on your vote. I also would not vote for her, but her, or anyone else's inclusion in the process is beneficial.
We all get entertained, and we all continue our fiscally imposed march rightward.
Being broke, at all levels of government sucks, don't it. And I presume all you libbies are pitching in all you can in extra taxes this year. The government really, really needs your money. Tomahawk missiles don't come cheap.
Hey Spanks,
Glad to see that all that radiation from the Japan "meltdown" ravaging the West Coast hasn't reduced you to another liberal mutant.
How many Volts did Obama and GM sell last moth - less than 250? And the guy Obama put in charge wants to up production to 100,000 next year? What would that leave them - about 8,000 short of production and sales goals?
I know, that's next year, a long time away. They should be able to increase demand by a factor of 33 times. And if they fall short, there is plenty of pad - It only cost $41,000.00 to make the car that sells for $42,000.00. Of course the tax payers have to pay $7,500.00 to every sucker that buys one, but who cares?
And libs here at FR think Bachman doesn't have a brain? They think Palin is a joke?
Tunde,
You must not have been paying attention - there is no red button. Obama gave it to the Russians. Thank God they got to Obama before he gave it to the Arab League or the UN.
And about Ted Kennedy. Really?
You would have gone in the car with him without a life perserver and a window punch?
Bob - historical perspective never seems to be their strong suit.
Michelle, PLEASE run. I beg you to run. Think of the GREAT material for SNL. This will be better than a Barmen and Bailey Circus. Oh, I can’t wait.
bob-1805084
How many Model A Fords were sold when Ford started out? Remember the automobile would never replace the horse. Same with airplanes and space travel. You Repubs only can talk about how things can't be done but that's not what built this country. Your argument is is way off but you keep living in the past and going backward. No thanks I want my kids to have a future and not just a past.
Spanky
LOL...Still with the questions but offering nothing whils nrver answering any thing you are asked of...getting very old friend.
This from a lawyer who thinks legal research is beneath him/her and leaves all those messy details to paid associates? LoL
rc-554943...thanks for that historical perspective that republican friends seem to forget soo easily.
"....he actually is a total disgrace - not because he had an affair... but just the way it all ensued i.e. dying wife with cancer, and him trying to cover it up and lying....)
And, he was a *whisper...* you-know-what!
Tunde Akins
Anytime you and AM et al do a great job of answering the fear over facts from our fiends like Bob and the Spankster
I have a question for all of you liberals....
WHY ARE YOU SO CONCERNED ABOUT BACHMANN? You are voting for Obama no matter what he does anyway.
Tunde:
You say Republicans should be like Snowe and Collins. Just say that is the way liberals WANT the Republican party to be. Liberals do not get to shape the Republican party, that is why we have different parties in this country.
You liberals seem to be obsessed with what the Republican party is doing. Every story is always about what some Republican is doing. You need to be watching some of those clowns in your own party.
rc,
Are you really that ignorant of the Volt? Do you not realize that it is $42,000.00 gimmick car with 150 hp, that gets about 7-8 hours on a charge in cold weather, that other cars get better gas mileage on the highway, ........sheez ...........and you compare this to the Model T?
BTW - Was Henry Ford a President that ordered the T to accomodate his social agenda? Or was he a private sector entrpreneur playing with private cash? And while we are at it - did the government invent the light bulb, the air plane.....cotton candy....and better yet - is that even the role of government to invent consumer goods?
" Every story is always about what some Republican is doing."
Yep-. Juat like the DAILY posts on her from JoAnnaSmith, Steve, NoJo, ITM, SickoftheBickering, and many many more that are always about what some Democrat is doing. Wonder what it means, anyway??
"Being broke, at all levels of government sucks, don't it. And I presume all you libbies are pitching in all you can in extra taxes this year. The government really, really needs your money. Tomahawk missiles don't come cheap."
Actually, no, SPanks- we are pitcing in all we can by giving to the DNC this year. See, it's more cost-effective that way. We can elect people that will spend OUR money, AND YOURS too! Neat deal, eh?
In the Middle---can't speak for all libs, but for me, I would like to see strong candidates from both parties so that we have great ideas and real choices for people to vote for. And though I expect the President to be re-elected in 2012, there will be another election 4 years later and I'd like for there to be a good "bench" for each party.
IntheMiddle, TX,
When I say Snowe and Collins...I honestly just saying that it's OK to have an ideology, but to often break from it every once in a while for the betterment of the country. I singled out their names because we are afterall talking about republican women... if you want, I could have mentioned Dick Lugar as someone I also admire from the republican men.... this trait is limited in the republican party congressmen/women, but dems are generally more willing to listen or engage in a meaningful debate. It seems the republican mentality is this "Either my way or the highway"...that mentality needs to stop.
I mean, look at idiots like Huckabee, Pawlenty, Santorum, Gingrich running around the country talking about Kenyan this and Kenyan that... birther movement leaders. I didn't bring them into this because it's not worth it.... but you at least can agree that these guys are IDIOTS; trying to reduce our citizenry to a bunch of brainless buffoons. at least 50% of republican leaders think and talk like the aforementioned.... that's said, isn't it? Disclaimer: my 50% is just a guess....that seems sorta true.
Dont get me wrong, we have crazies on the left too...but we can count them on our fingers and possibly model the percentage of the general population of crazies... the right is disproportionally loaded with a lot of crazies.
bob-1805084
Hey Bobbi boy decaf dude! Do you feel better now? Speaking of ignorant! Slow down and try to wrap your tiny brain around what I was saying ie that it takes time for things to change and for people to accept new products or concepts, something that you obviously can't grasp. Tunde got it but you didn't.
PS...what the heck is this comment "BTW - Was Henry Ford a President that ordered the T to accomodate his social agenda?" You are totally whacked and I won't bother with you as all you have is hate for our President
So to conclude....Go home and get your shine box
Oh I have no doubt she is smart. George Bush was smart.
And both have excellent stage-presence. They both smack of fundamentalist-ignorance-is-bliss emotional makeups, but don't fool yourself by thinking they are dumb. Or at least, they are both expert at catering to the under-informed, curiosity-challenged voter.
Both are smart, and dangerous.
The VOLT goes 40 miles on a charge. The gasoline powered electric generator kicks in after that, giving you a range of 300 miles. GWB and Bachmann and Palin are only smart enough to understand that we live in a nation of ignorants who easily fall for their con-games.
I would like to see strong candidates from both parties so that we have great ideas and real choices for people to vote for.
So would I, but we all know that's not going to happen. I'm gearing up for the most vicious campaign yet in 2012. The Republicans are desperate to defeat this president and will stop at nothing to lie, cheat and twist facts, that most people will just turn it off. Don't be surprised to see the birther issue front and center again, either. That's too bad, because I think they would have a real chance if they would tell the teabagger's to shut up and let the people who know how to get things done, take the lead. Problem is, that ain't gonna happen, so the Party of No will just keep shooting themselves in the foot.
I wonder if the two close to Bachman were the ones that fact-checked her historical references to Concord and Lexington.
I think they just looked on a map and discovered there was Concord in NH, didn't bother to check on Lexington and whoopee, we're in NH go for some history creds--why fact check when there's a map.
I think maybe she got her facts from the same person who told Obama there was 57 states.....yeah that's our President...so proud!
watt75 - let it go. You know as well as anyone else desperately parrotting that tired sh*t that Obama was dead-tired from campaigning.
Besides, you'd never make a mistake would you? You purposefully mistyped the ellipsis twice in your post, right?
There is a difference in one's honest mistake and just flat-out talking out one's ass.
57 Stops in 47 states. if you can't let that flub go after three years, you're either a birther, a racist, or both.
Michele?........Michele....who?.....Bachmann?.................................................OH YEAH!!!....The politician who acts like a comedian.....THAT Michele Bachmann! I wonder who writes her stuff? The thing on Lexington and Concord was a good one...HA...wish I could think that fast on my feet. Now tell me.....what's she running for again? Is she genetically related to that comedian from Alaska? They could do that Abbot and Costello skit. You know?....."Who's on First....."......................moron...
YES! What a gift to the Dems!
Please...get in the race...split the crazy vote with Palin, and help a moderate Republican get the nomination.
I think there should be some kind of IQ test before anyone can run for the presidency. That would weed out the total idiots that think they should be president. Maybe O'Donnell could be her VP?
Bat@!$%# Bachman is going to hire a Chief of...stuff...and things...
Well, Mishie...you'll NEVER be POTUS without that "lamestream media" you alienated yourself from...Fox and Douches just aint gonna cut it in the long haul.
Maybe you can by airtime on the Glenn Beck Channel...but you'll have to showyour Dip@!$%#-ploma from Beck U.
Bring her on, along with all the others who have aspirations to entertain us. They will keep us amused with their absurd and irrational claims of birth certs. or lack thereoff, places of birth, and where the President lived or didn't live growing up etc. etc. Is he a Muslim, is he a socialist, is he a Marxists, never in the history of the this country has a president been so maligned, so critiqued as our present President over the most petty and inane reasons.
Of course the media help in all of this, running around breathlessly hanging on every word these charlatans utter, puffing them up beyond their relevance in the scheme of things. Truly, there is a fool born every minute and they mostly become American voters.
Gingerbread Mamma:
You are so right about the media elevating these irrelevant bit playes like Bachmann and Gingrich. That is why uneducated voters actually think they are important!
While Bachmann apparently is more educated than Palin she does not have the personality and by most accounts her appearances on cable news shows would indicate that she has some mental issues.
Barack Obama worked so hard to get where he is in life and these vicious people talk about him like he fell off a turnip truck instead of graduating from two prestigous universities with honors!
This is a pathetic state of affairs for our country.
Dear Gingerbread and Sheila, c'mon, give the Republicans and the press a break! They don't have anyone else, or anything else to talk about. They have to say something! Don't you remember what it was like, having to write an essay on a really bad piece of literature. This is all the news media has to work with, and they have to do it 24/7. Thank God I don't have their job!
I think there should be an IQ test given to everyone that runs for Congress and the presidency. That may weed out a few of the crazies. I wonder if she'll choose O'Donnell as her running mate. What a pair.
Come on in, Bachmann! We need the entertainment! Can you IMAGINE the debates? (If she lasts that long.) That scary, vacant look, straight into the camera, repeating over and over again "I AM RUNNING BECAUSE GOD TOLD ME TO RUN. GOD SAYS YOU MUST VOTE FOR ME....Wait, did you ask a question? What must we do in the middle East? I AM RUNNING BECAUSE GOD TOLD ME TO RUN. GOD SAYS YOU MUST VOTE FOR ME....." If it doesn't scare all the children, it could be a laugh riot!
Big picture NewDay. Big picture.
So do you think the rise of the tea party had anything at all to do with Obama's tax cuts for the rich? Do you suppose conservative values had anything to do withObama's war on Libya?
But go ahead and go with your entertainment. Another very conservative voice in the mix effects not just republicans, but also the democrats.
Or were the tax cuts signed into law because Obama love only rich people?
Deep thought NewDay. Keep up the good work.
Spanky, do you suppose possibly Obama was shown WHY changing the tax cuts immediatly, just might affect any kind of recovery and decided it wasn't a good idea to let them expire???? And please tell me how conservative values had anything to do with his attacks on Libya.
I hope she first takes 9th grade U.S. History over and maybe a couple of Geography classes before running. And I do hope she runs. It would be hilarious to listen to her.
Spanky, have a heart and tell us what you really think of Michelle Bachmann and her chances of being elected. There are some of us on this page who would merely discuss the points you make, without getting personal. Just list a few of her concepts for the future, or a quote or two............something, thanks.
Has anyone seen her birth certificate? With that dark hair and close set eyes I'm thinking the family tree has few branches...
Yes, yes, yes, yes.....the "Bat Sh#t Crazy" Presidential tour begins :) Hey, we all need levity and hilarity in our lives and Michelle Bachmann is the perfect delivery vehicle for our daily amusement. Let the games begin :)
I am a little bummed though because, being a woman, having people like Bachmann, Fox, Palin, Angle, etc. spouting their nonsense on a daily basis demeans the rest of us, so I look at their total lack of any intellect as an aberration and not an indictment of the rest of us who actually have and use our brains on a regular basis and to thoughtful and intelligent women in politics who don't grab the spotlight to spread hate, divisiveness and lies, but try to get things done (my Senators in WA State -- Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell are two great examples of women with smarts, compassion, and a willingness to shun the spotlight to address our nation's problems). Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska is turning out to be a thoughtful Independent woman as well. To all who use their intelligence to better our country and world, my hat's are off to you.
Great post, Linda----surely there must be more mainstream, smart Republican women out there.
Linda Fox isn't a person, but I'm wondering: do you find Bill Maher's comments at all demeaning?
Nothing wrong with questioning a person's intelligence and capability, male or female. Face it, Bachmann and the 1/2 governor of Alaska are poor representations of intelligent and capable women. Any remark questioning ability and intellect regarding a potential U.S. president is not sexist. Kay Bailey Hutchison is intelligent and capable; she would be a more viable presidential candidate than Bachmann or Palin.
Nope. The variety produced by their pods is quite limited, as we've been seeing lately.
Linda, a few years back Patty Murray was voted "Most Likely to Not be a Rocket Scientist" by Washingtonian museum. She is considered pretty dumb on a national level, although Washington keeps sending her back just because she keeps running and has that seniority thing going for her. Also, there is always Democratic King County and few/no democrats challenge her. I knew the woman when we were both younger. She lost me when she went on national tv and actually said the Dept. of Justice was "pickin' on Bill Gates." Believe me if Patty Murray can make it to the Senate--Palin and Bachman can sure embarass the hell out of us and run for the Presidency.
Linda
It's actually pretty frustrating. Instead of championing a smart, insightful, forward looking person they keep coming up with this substandard group of possible candidates and crowing on and on about them.
They really need to get past their obvious disdain for education and educated people and try to actually put forth a fully qualified candidate that can appeal to all walks of our society, not just a very narrow, albeit noisy, minority.
I feel bad for the republicans who will donate, because shes just buiding her war chest based on their hopes. she has no intention to really run and is running a con on her base
It's just an excuse they all use not to do their real jobs -- those that actually HAVE real jobs, that is.
Wow Palin and Bachmann duking it out in a primary, are you kidding..CAN'T WAIT for the comic relief. Imagine being able to sit back and watch the crazies talking about death panels, how Godspeak is knocking around in their heads and all that neat stuff!! Hope it doesn't make Boehner cry if he is left out of the mix.....I'LL MAKE THE POPCORN!
It's OK to be displeased w/ the president's handling of all manner of public affairs. But, gullyjuice, to your credit, you recognize republicans need a serious contender for 2012, not wingnuts. Give this old progressive a true Christian statesman or woman and you may get more of the middle vote than you think. Keep pushing crazies like Newt, Sarah, and Michele and you're guaranteed to lose.
A true CHRISTIAN statesman? What's that?
It could be a problem you know, she is only 5 foot four, that's a little bit too short to qualify for president and she is also not blond.
Interesting worldview. I'll assume you're kidding and not make the "bighorn" joke that immediately comes to mind.
You should see her hair-kini.
Bachmann running.....big deal. I don't think she's stupid by any means.....but she does seem a little wacked in the head. She would get creamed in any debate and quickly lose her current position in the polls, except her core supporters, who are the lost souls of our society (AKA people who are also wacked).
BTW, Just a little tweet off the side. Interestingly, I was reading about the supposed to be chief of consumer protection for Americans and their banking business. Strangely, I can't find Elizabeth Warren's biography or other such info. Can you Dems help me?
You aren't trying to find out anything about warren...its called google...you should try it befoe you type next time...you'll look smarter that way.
Sounds like someone has been hanging out in Glennbeckistan.
If you are her opponent in any political race, all you should really need do to defeat her, is run the video of her "stalking" President Bush prior to his State of the Union address, so that she could plant a kiss on him. Crazy- weird.
She also "stalked" President Obama--couldn't get to the rail fast enough to shake his hand, practically knocked over people to get there; had another woman get his autograph on her copy of the speech all after making positively outrageous and derogatory comments about the President.
Bachmann drives the leftists crazy worse than Palin if that is possible because she repudiates the liberal lie that hard working citizens cannot understand government so they must cede all power to the leftist government elites and their cronies
With the liberal State of New York NOW asking for an Obamacare waiver in addition to the thousands already handed out and the CBO admitting Obamacare will cost $$$ TRILLIONS it is OBVIOUS to ANYONE for example that OBAMACARE will DESTROY OUR HEALTHCARE SYSTEM
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Why don't we just give Lybia our Constitution ? it worked perfectly well for 200 years and we're not using it any more
B!tch, who is " LYbia"?
LOL they don't want it either
Wow, this is the best news I've heard all day. This woman is an imbecile. Maybe she can form her own "gangster" exploratory committee. Hopefully, someone in the group will be smart enough to know she'll never win. But then again.....who in the world would be a part of that, IF they had any brains?
Another weirdo you cant believe a word she says ...this bimbo started the death squads scare ..and seniors still are afraid to see their doctors when they need to ! She is unfit to be in office and should be recalled ! Her mother was right !
I'd like to see Bachmann as Sarah Palin's VP running mate. That way when Sarah quits Bachmann can have her turn selling out capitalism for facsim, taking away freedoms, as well as legislating morality and Christianity.
Me too. Sarah, who won't answer questions, or put out, and Bachmann who can find the questions to the answers at Glenn Beck University. I must confess though, Bachmann enamores me very much. It is a very admirable trait to be able to believe in something which you know is ignorant, but continue to believe it because you know in your heart (or lack of it) that its a good thing to worship falsehood. She also has a tremendous advantage--God talks to her. The girl is "Winning."
People like Bachmann, Palin, Gingrich, Trump why are you making fun of us???????? Are people in America that funny to you??
We had stupid and smart presidents, we had white and black presidents, we never head dictators before, wanna try something new, America?
Cheney was damned near to being a DICKtator.
We're trying it in Wisconsin, Emma. It's not going so well for the dictator. Ohio or Michigan, either.
Cheney was a male spud? I knew he must be some sort of tuber....
We have a dictator in California and its not Jerry Brown, its the Union Bosses.
learn to spell before you post wingnut
Tunde:
You said we need a sensible republican/conservative to run in 2012. Can you name one? It seems to me the republicans are setting themselves up for a repeat of 1964. Barry Goldwater. Anyone? Anyone?
LBJ won that election and was so bad (Vietnam escalation) even he, with all of his legendary bullying arrogance, knew better than to run again in 68. From 68-92 the Dems had only four years of Presidential power and he was a disaster as well--LBJ and Jimmy Carter made even Barry G. look pretty good! Who will run? I don't really care at this point. I don't worship at the altar of politics.
I'ed take Barry in a heartbeat. Bachmann, Palin not enough gravatis. At this point Romney, but its very early yet.
Just imagine a republican primary debate with Bachmann, Gingrich, Trump, Palin and Huckabee--all talking about birth certificates and Kenya. The late night hosts will have enough matertial to last a decade.
I am living for that moment, Jody. It will be even better than 2008.
Jody Mr Gingrich has threatened to run for about 10 years and I suppose this time he won't again. He just loves getting all that free money and then pocketing it for his own personal use later.
Wow!
You must have watched the same special on TV that I did last week. Newt has been campaigning for the last ten years under the pretense of running for office. He travels all over the world in his private jet with his healthy wife raking in around 30 million dollars a year.
Due to some campaign loop hole, He's allow to collect this money and write off 27 million dollars a year as campaign expenses.
What a complete scam! Just like Sarah Palin, He's a money making machine and what's so pathetic is the fact that people are too blind to see this.