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Subscribe to RSSPresident Obama’s health-care bill was signed into law one year ago today. So what provisions have already taken effect? And what’s still to come?
Here's the link for the the full video. For more, check out our expanded post on health care one year later.
Video edited by Domenico Montanaro and Ali Weinberg.
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So, Dom...
How soon will the Obama Justice Department be able to defend the legal challenges to Obamacare before the Supreme Court?
I assume they're eager to defend those challenges?
Why wouldn't they be eager?
Let's get this settled as soon as possible, eh?
Thank you First Read, Domenico Montanaro for the recap. The polls simply reflect the confusion people have based on the negativity from conservatives and that's evident because so many believe the bill has been repealed. The irony is those who think it's been repealed and believe they have escaped the GOP predicted Armageddon are reaping the rewards of the parts which have been implemented. How sad it is that instead of checking the facts for themselves, they simply base their opinion on what some legislator told them.
I'm going to watch this later when I'm on a computer with sound. Last night Brian Williams made some snarky reference to the HCR anniversary, without informing the viewing public of any of these facts. Kudos to First Read for trying to inject facts into the debate.
Looks like it's on track to get to SCOTUS in the court's next term. Perhaps some time in 2012.
Thanks, Domenico.
The sooner, the better.
Will it clear the Federal Appeals courts by then?
That begs the BIGGER question, as to whether or not Thomas will recuse himself?
If a SC Justice can't be trusted to remember to file the proper financial forms - I don't have much faith in him being impartial!
Will Justice Scalia allow Justice Thomas to recuse himself? After all, they are incapable of independent thought.
How cynical Da Noid. They are capable of independent thought........as long as it screws over the little guy.
The most obvious recusal would be Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan.
As Judicial Watch has noted, there may be a conflict of interest regarding former U.S. Solicitor General Kagan.
I wasn't aware she's sleeping with a tea bagger?
You really DO learn something 'new' every day around here! LOL
There's plenty you aren't aware of.
You always...always live down to my expectations, Feisty.
Please...
Put me back on "ignore".
I already know what to expect from you.
Mixed
You dont actually think that The Nasty one ever had you on Ignore, This person is incapable of telling the Truth let alone Reconginzing it. the only thing she is EXCEPTIONAL at is calling people names. Other then that she is nothing but a hack that has no real comments to add to this board.. Unless of course its a copy and pasted bit from her Favorite left wing blog
Not a chance bag boy!
After our history, I can't tell you how disappointed, I am to ultimately find out you're thin skinned!
Put on your big boy panties will ya?
This coming from our resident 'non-white' race baiting schizophrenic?
Get back to me stevie, when you have a shred of credibility will ya? Until then - STFU!
Feisty-
And you complain about the "dumbing down" of the nation...
You're completely oblivious, aren't you?
Can you say "Judicial Watch"?
Nasty,
Its seems my calling you and BEV out on your RASICT attutudes towards anyone Republican or that doesn't 100 percent agree with you has Worked. You nor Bev have been so Quick to jump on the callign people racist Bandwagon lately. . The fact is you cant Handle someone calling you and your RACIST TWISTED sistah out on your pathetic ranting on these Boards.. I have not posted much. but i have been Reading with interest.. Just because you have stopped calling people RACIST everytime they say something you dont like still doesn't change the FACT you are one..
and for the record there Nasty. You dont control me or what i say. I dont need your permission to say what i feel on these boards so you telling me to ."STFU" is just your trying to Control me.. its what most liberals do when they know they have lost the Conversation not only on these boards. but on a national level when it comes to Politics
Geeze Stevie! Paranoid much? There's medication that can help you hon!
In the meantime, pal, STFU only till the med's kick in... K?
In the meantime, please feel free to go back to your Fox 'force fed' talking point... stevie... it's well within you & MB's comfort zones! lmao
Stop picking on Fiesty, man!!
That's what I like about you Fiesty. You don't take no "stuff".
Freakin right Greg! If they want to fling sh!t... I'm right here to hand it back to them! ;o)
No. I will not STFU because you tell me too. I am not sure perhaps. your "significant other" takes your orders but i wont. again not sure why you seem to think you can Control me like you do with the rest of the lemmings in your life. If you have Kids i feels sorry for them.
You're right stevie! I was remiss in telling you to STFU!
Buy ALL means, go back and continue to pick the lint out of your belly button there pal! ;o)
Still trying to tell me what to do. Why dont you worry about yourself instead of others....
Steve's lint is a fire hazard.
Mixed Bag
There's plenty you aren't aware of.
You always...always live down to my expectations, Feisty.
Please...
Put me back on "ignore".
I already know what to expect from you.
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From my own personal experience, the Nasty Redhead never really puts anyone on "ignore". She just threatens it in the delusional belief that anyone would actually care. I too have been threatened and later , when it became clear it was a pretend" ignore", asked her to really put me back on real "ignore". No such luck.
This is one more bit of proof that my theory of Liberalism is correct: It is a mental illness that only gets worse as time goes on (thus the term "progressives").
Sad.
Well Feisty,
Don't you find it interesting that the large number of Representatives, Senators and Government cabinet members also can't file taxes, even when guys like Charlie Rangel write the laws and Geithner, well, just what does Tim do these days? Now how do these guys rate on your impartial scale?
I am going to go way out on a limb here and predict that none of the justices will recuse themselves.
Clarence cannot maintain Ginny's'high maintenance' life style on the pittance we pay a SC Justice?
Unfortunately, I believe you're right Indy!
These days in America, anything is for SALE!
When money=speech, only the rich have a voice.
When money equals speech, only the rich will have a voice which can be heard and sustained above the din of noise created by the less monied. Money equals AMPLIFIED speech, it should exist, ONLY, in a regulated environment. AMPLIFIED speech is not the same thing as free speech.
What is truly sad is that so many think the law has already been repealed. I put the blame for this ignorance squarelyon the shoulders of the media, they have done an awful job in this whole debate over health care, with talk of death panels and other such nonsense. Sadly, unless your family is helped by this legislation, you will never find out how it benefits the average American if you rely on the pundits.
Because they are allowed to use AMPLIFIED speech to lie to the public, with IMPUNITY.
So,
Now "they" have a health care "explainer" to explain what has taken effect and what is to come???
Why wasn't there a health care explainer available before this abortion of a bill was rammed through congress??
Nancy could have filled that role, could'nt she???
Look.
Applying this example, lets say health care costs increase by about 12.3% in 2003 for N. Californians. Some years less, some years more.
www.commondreams.org/headlines03/1208-03.htm.
Lets start out with a $1,000 premium. If you increase the cost of the health care premiums by 12.3% every year the premiums would look something like this:
Year 1 $1000
Year 2 $1123
Year 3 $1261.13
Year 4 $1416.25
Year 5 $1590.45
Year 6 $1786.07
Year 7 $2005.75
So,....you have the cost of health care premiums DOUBLING every seven years.
I'm from Detroit. Let's apply that to cars shall we? Say ya' buy a Dodge Stratus for $23,000. Applying the health care price increase formula you will pay $46,000 for the same Dodge Stratus in only 7 years. In another 7 years you would be paying $92,000 for the same car, and in another 7 years after that same car will cost you a mind numbing $184,000!!
See why health care captured the attention of the party of action? The party of grownups? The party of let's-roll-up-our-sleeves-and-get-this-done?
Health care costs are borne by employers in this country. How are our companies supposed to compete? Employee compensation (blue and white collar) only amounts for about 10% of the cost of a car. The rest is overhead, raw materials, and yes, HEALTH CARE. All of Detroit's competitors have socialized medicine which frees up their capital to put back into their product development. The U.S. also picks up the cost of their defense for them. South Korea and Japan both benefit from U.S. bases in their region; 38,000 U.S. troops in S. Korea alone.
The reason why auto Unions in this country get an exemption on ObamaCare is that we fund our OWN health care system called VEBA. Look it up. That's something Glen Beck doesn't have the stones to tell you. My Union gave up a lot to negotiate for it.
Somebody had to do something about health care in this country because the republic party sure as He!! wasn't going to do anything to address the issue.
Class dismissed.
My union, which operates its own non-profit health care plan, urged me to contact my elected representatives because Obamacare imposed a 40% excise tax on so-called "Cadillac" health care plans...and my union had negotiated away wage increases in lieu of improved health coverage.
That was beautiful...trying to restrain the rate-of-increase of health care costs by forcing ordinary middle class workers, union and non-union, to endure higher co-pays and out-of-pocket expenses. What could be more cynical and cruel?
Anyway, that's what MY union said...and, under pressure, Obama agreed to delay implementation of the excise tax.
Did the UAW object to the excise tax, Greg?
Eventually, maybe he'll hand us one of the hundreds of Obamacare waivers that have been issued.
That's what I'm hoping...
Not sure Mixed Bag. Most of this won't hit us until 2014. I know I am blessed to be a UAW employee. Hearing the stories of other people out there and what they are forced to pay is sickening, and it underscores what a bubble I live in.
Something had to be done about health care because it was bleeding all of us white.
Unfortunately, Greg, I don't think this will stop it. Only a public option or single payer have a chance to do that.
I think you are right Anna Molly. Republicans like to preach "free market", and then squelch whatever chance we might have had at an effective control on a market monopoly.
Most insurance markets are monopolized by one carrier, and there is ample evidence of collusion between companies. Such a case allegedly is under investigation by Michigan's AG now.
How's that Navy?
hmm
Intriguing. Please, tell me more.
Sure Indy. In addition to the other disadvantages that hobble U.S. companies the diet of the U.S. culture doesn't help either.
A lot of the U.S. health insurance customers consume Big Macs, chain smoke Marlboros, are sedentary, and drink Mountain Dew like it's water. This spikes the costs for health insurance companies as well. If people want to engage in elective lifestyle choices that are unhealthy, there is no disincentive (except death) for them to do so.
Meanwhile, Japanese eat fish, rice and sea vegetables.
Tell a Japanese person they have to change to help their country, and they'll do it. Tell an American that they have to change their diet, and that is an affrontery to their American individualism.
F#CK thehealth insurance cartel. They are vultures fattening up on our corpses , slowly, as we die.Any healthcare for profit is vampirism for sport and bragging rights.It should be outlawed and replaced with equal care for all easily paid for by a moral society justly taxing the rich.And they would pay less in the long run, not profiting the death asurance industry,drug cartels ,corp. money pimps.ect.
I know Tea Partiers who are on foodstamps, unemployment insurance, Disability and/or Maine Care. They vote Republican because the ideology appeals to them, although they live a reality that is quite different. You can't get through to these people, I've tried. They think it's always "someone else" who is taking advantage of the system, not them, they "deserve it." Hypocrisy is rampant in today's American political landscape. I think it's amplified by conservative politicians who tell their base they are the "real American," salt of the earth, and it's always the lazy neighbor down the road who is the leech.
I dont feel like i should be forced to have health insurance, I think everyone would like to have health insurance if they could afford it. If you need affordable health insurance search online "Wise Health Insurance" you dont want to be with out insurance any time.
Yeah, but if you don't get health insurance what is the alternative?
If you have a heart attack at home what are you going to do? Just sit there and say, "Well,....I haven't paid in to the system, so I guess I'll just sit here and die."?
Hell no you won't. You are going to be on that phone dialing 911 so fast the sudden acceleration will make your nose bleed.
Then you get "free" health care in the ER on the taxpayer's dole.
Nothing good in this life comes easy. Nothing good in this life comes cheap. There are NO FREE LUNCHES!! A few universalisms I have learned.
"I dont feel like i should be forced to have health insurance"
I don't feel like I should be forced to pay for your healthcare after you get sick while uninsured.
And why should the doctor/hospitol/nurse treat you for free? And you know they will, they won't just let you suffer and die.
Once again evidence of some real ignorance posted here. Kagan's record actually indicates she steps down of her own volition when there is a conflict. After all she is honourable. A statement I can not make about Scalia or Justice pubic hair on a coke can.
Lord, please help America.
HEALTHSCARE TAX OR FINE---- It's not good to believe false prophets
No Republican voted for the healthscare bill --- THANK YOU – whatever your political party, if you voted against the healthscare TAX/fine; Much of the current bills/ “reforms” have more socialistic mandates than carter has pills. States are getting mandated funds for a healthscare scheme. - if all goes well for the left, workers will see a healthscare tax on there paycheck – courtesy of the feds.
Some think healthcare it is a human right/You cant just make someone sell all of his property because he/she had surgery more than once on his/her leg. If the country is broke stop cutting taxes just to win the majority. Those who are able to pay more, must pay more in that case, this would be a priority, as well as cutting down on the military sector. -
--- Reply to above – agree, Those who are able to pay more, must pay more – although the Obamacare plan leaves no option to the people that do not want public option – some people are satisfied with the health care they are currently enrolled with. Public option apparently means all should have the same health “care” - we all must suffer equally, because the present bill/tax/fine extends an already inadequate health “care” “reform” scheme.
Sorry, health care is not a right, it is a privilage; all the reform in the world will not get healthcare for everyone that needs actual care. - The rich can not, should not, and will not pay for all the needs of the poor – and taxing the “rich” philosophy eventually taxes the middle class – usually more than once. People are getting used – they are the means to meet a disgusting end.
Health care is a business for profit.....your point is that if you cannot afford it at some time in your life, you are rightly deserving of the suffering until death because it is that you do not have enough value to the nation to live because you are not profitable enough in what you can do to make a living. This is why the wealthy live longer and higher quality lives. Unfortunately, what is profitable is not the measure of a man's worth to society or his god. Teachers earn less than lawyers....so their lives should be of a lower quality and length? Many men and women have contributed to making this nation great.....most did not become wealthy. Was Rockefeller a better man than others? He was a person who caused many to lose all they had, but his family profited.....is this what America stands for?
WHY are people considering a sweeping overhaul of healthcare, -that mentions little of actual reform, -it seems people forget the gov. bureaucrats, and their social programs, have never saved America money, rather they waste money – as shown by much mismanagement of stimulus, and people see more debt getting dumped on us – when will we wake up and understand there are consequences for our actions – will we wait til our Republic is so poor, that the gov. has total control of our finances, and our lives through mandated reforms. Health services needs reform, NOT healthcare, -the fact that private enterprise does not have the severe mandates offered in this healthscare scheme is why Americas healthcare is better quality than gov. controlled healthcare.
Taxed enough....you are speaking points of the neo con party.....The workers used to contribute the majority of taxes.....with corporations running rampant tax evasion and outsourcing....those workers do not make enough to pay in most cases now. The next time a war breaks out and you need the children of those workers who do not make large sums of money to protect your investments.....send your own kids to fight. Oh yea, you can hire kids from central America....they are so damned poor they will join to stay alive and send money to their families.....come visit Camp Pendleton and see who's kids are there.....you better be able to speak Spanish. We are a nation of refugees....not a nation of profiteers and market manipulators. We have not aristocracy......we have no legacy rights....we are the government....the nation is a union.....a union of people.