From NBC's Kelly O'Donnell and Carrie Dann
At 2pm ET, President Barack Obama is scheduled to make his first public comments addressing last night's United Nations Security Council vote to impose a no-fly zone over Libya.
His remarks will take place after an emergency bipartisan meeting of key lawmakers, who are discussing the situation with the president at the White House.
Several members of Congress will participate by phone because they are no longer in Washington after wrapping up legislative business yesterday. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, House Speaker John Boehner, and House Majority Leader Eric Cantor are among those who will call in to the meeting.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will be at the White House.
Here's a list of the participants:
Majority Leader Harry Reid
Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer
Senator Carl Levin
Senator Dick Lugar
Senator Saxby Chambliss
Rep. Mike Rogers
Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger
Speaker John Boehner
Majority Leader Eric Cantor
Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi
Senator Dick Durbin
Senator Mitch McConnell
Senator John Kyl
Senator John Kerry
Senator Diane Feinstein
Rep. Buck McKeon
Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen
Rep. Howard L. Berman


True American-
Wait, we're supposed to invade every country that has a dictator by ourselves? Looks like we're going to need to raise taxes after all, to pay for all the troops that will be drafted from our citizenry.
I'm just comforted by the thought that with all the military experts, Sec of State, Diplomats, President, Vice President, and many, many expert advisors, we still have one guy that is SO much smarter than all of them put together in our midst.
(what I don't find so comforting, though, is the fact that he would rather waste all his genius-infused time on these boards poking everyone else in the eye with a sharp stick. Ain't that True, American?)
Hey, I resent that, True. I, for one, am an ATYPICAL left-wing coward.
So there!!!!!
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Be careful what you wish for, True. You just might get it. Just like we got Iraq.
But I'm sure you'll be happy to explain it to all the families whose children may die for THIS folly. Just like your hero, George W. Bush, explained it to all those families whose children's funerals HE didn't attend.
Or wait. They DID get actual machine-signed letters from Donald Rumsfeld offering condolences, didn't they?
So, 'True' American, what DIRECT threat does Lybia pose to the United States, anyway?
I've read some pretty contorted logic but True American's today has topped the list of completely nonsensical jibberish.
LoL Me, too, True. After all, I continue to spar with you, don't I?
There must be a loose screw somewhere.
I promise I'll get on that today. And thanks so much for your concern.
LoL True, you're such a flatterer.
But which post? They're ALL nonsensical jibberish, aren't they?
After all, if anyone else would recognize it, YOU would.
ABC News:
Whatever military action takes place against the forces of Col. Moammar Gadhafi will be in keeping with President Obama’s desire that this conflict be seen as a showdown between the Libyan regime and the international community, senior administration officials tell ABC News. This includes not just NATO forces, but conspicuous Arab involvement.
President Obama expects that Qatar and the United Arab Emirates will participate, as leaders from those countries have committed to do, officials say. Other Arab countries are considering participation. The Arab League over the weekend endorsed the idea of a no-fly zone, but getting leaders from those countries to go from talk to action is no small task.
…President Obama has tried hard not to feed into Gadhafi’s megalomaniacal worldview by making this confrontation him versus Obama, or the US versus Gadhafi, officials say. With US troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, the president is also sensitive to not have any pending military action be seen as the U.S. invading a third Muslim country.
http://theobamadiary.com/
True American-2367375
Exactly....President Obama = COWARD!
Ha Ha
sticks and stones will break bones
names will never hurt
cause all you do is moan
sick of your dirt
In general, I find that those yelling names and accusing others of being cowards, bullies or angry are themselves actually the coward, bully or angry. It's called projection and there seems to be a whole butt load of projection going on by one particular right wing poster on this thread.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA . . . oh, God! Someone please make him AHHHH HAHAHAHAHAH . . . stop! My sides are about to split HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA . . . OMG! OMG! Please make him HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA stop!
True American needs to change his name to Hateful American, a far more appropriate name considering the ugly he spews.
Matthew, you're absolutely right about the projection.
Personally, I prefer projection and denial. Not to mention reversion to the obtuse. Ad hominems work well, too, when I can't think of a fancy strawman. Which is just about anytime. Even my off-the-mark positions are off-the-mark.
Hey, now that you mention it, True, I'm just about ready to graduate to my new career as a conservative.
If you think that's ugly, Jody, take a look at RVZ555 below. Now THAT is some angry, sick and hateful projection if I ever saw it.
OMG, Anna Molly!!!! Stop!!!! I just fell out of my chair laughing so hard!!! That was GREAT and way too funny!! It'll probably fly right over TA's head though. Voted.
True Blew sounds like this guy I used to know whenever he dropped acid and got drunk at the same time. Yammered on and on about completely nonsensical crap, and was completly obsessed with it, and at the same time, was unable to keep it all under control.
Dude- grab a rifle, and hitch on over to Libya, why'ncha? Hell, man- sounds like you might be able to catch a flight on over.
Without having to find an airport first.
To be completely honest- I can't remember the point. Was there one??
While I'm admiring your insight and military genius this afternoon, True American- would you mind sharing with us what, exactly, we need to do with North Korea? Lebanon" Syria? Iran? Yemen? Somallia? Show 'em some of them there cowboy balls? What??
"True" American: No one cares what the right in this country think any longer. Okay? We don't care. You've screwed up TWO wars. Thousands killed. Thousands upon thousands. Your opinion means nothing when it comes to international conflicts. Bush, Cheney & Rumsfeld are gone.
The dictatorship in this country is over. We barely care what the media thinks as well.
There he goes projecting again. As if he represents the majority of Americans when it is only his warped view he is writing about.
Ignore him, people. Ignorant fools like TA love and thrive on attention.
Fool been smokin' that straw, man.
If you had stopped writing so many BS blogs and read some news articles you would have noticed that he did warn Quadddfi about the actions he was taking. Some things take time even in this new world of instant gratification.
True American-2367375
It took less than 72 hours for him to tell Mubaruk to GET OUT NOW. I guess time is relative with you leftwing zealots. It you didn't read the first post on this article, I POSTED DIRECTLY FROM REUTERS!
Libya declares unilateral ceasefire after West threatens attack
REUTERS | Mar 18, 2011, 07.32pm IST
True American-
Depending on where you are you can calculate the time.
http://www.worldatlas.com/travelaids/time_difference_calculator.htm
Chicago, IL, USA is 7 hours behind Tunisia
The current date and time in Chicago, IL, USA: 2011-03-18 14:06
The current date and time in Tunisia: 2011-03-18 20:06
http://www.worldatlas.com/travelaids/time_difference_calculator.htm
TA certainly hijacked this discussion. Getting back to the FR post, I'm encouraged by the bipartisan review the President is conducting.
I'm also glad that France and Britain took the lead as well in passing the No-Fly Resolution--I hope they're equally willing to lead on the enforcement end of it. Saudi Arabia too.
Yep, firmly planted head first in the real sand of the real world.
You are just waaaaayyyyyyyy to easy today, TA.
LMAO at you, TA.
Thank you for that comment, Fancy. It is refreshing to see the rest of the world getting involved. Perhaps in an ideal world we could do more in these situations, but with our own deficit issues and 2 wars not going anywhere, it is time for other nations to step up, especially those closer in geography.
Be interesting to see what the President's approval rating has gone up to by next week. He was awfully silent during his week of deliberation. But immediately following his work with Japan and Libya, we have seen the price of oil start to drop and stocks start to rise.
I am learning never to underestimate the President's ability to grasp victory from the jaws of defeat. Doesn't it seem though, that Obama seems to have way too many things happening in the world for one term? Maybe it's just the 24 hour instant-read news cycle we have now.
I second that, Steeler Fan. Nicely put, Fancy.
You too, Clotho. Well said.
Voted for both of you.
Fancy This Too, well said. I gathered from President Obama's address that the effort will be funded, supported, and enforced by the coalition so it isn't just the U.S. President Obama is not a hawk but recognizes that allowing Gaddafy to continue his war on the Libyan people will destabilitize the entire region. My hunch is that Gaddafy will back off to protect his own backside.
Clotho, nicely done--too many do underestimate President Obama; they're quick to think he's not doing enough only to discover he's already figured out and put the solution in motion. I don't recall any President since Roosevelt who has dealt with one crisis after another in such a short time span. Even Chuck Todd made that comment last week.
I said it on another thread---the President goes about doing his job in his own style----he gathers a lot of facts, he evaluates alternatives, he works behind the scenes and he doesn't have a lot of leaks and on-the-record remarks during the process. I find it refreshing but the media and the pundits seem taken aback, even after 2 years.
Thanks for the shout out, Matthew.
True: I'll have whatever it is that you're having.
It appears to be working. ;-)
Anna, DBO already told us: fool been smokin that straw, man.
DBO, that was a classic and has to be one of your top 5.
Steeler Fan, I am happy that other countries will be involved in this an that we won't be going in alone. But ther will be casualties and this might not be quick. So take a little time to keep our troops in your heart. My best friends two sons and my nephew are all serving in the middle east.
The country is going bankrupt and we must cut spending on teachers, schools, roads, border security, R&D, social security, Medicare, Medicaid, cut! Cut! Cut! ... What did you say? A dictator on the other side of the planet is treating his people poorly? My God open the Treasury!!! Quick we are going to need billions ... no fly zones, bombs, planes, ships, weapons ... we are the riches country on earth we will find a way to pay for it .... hmmmmmm
Erik - nice post. You echo my sentiments EXACTLY. We cannot seem to afford to help AMERICANS, but somehow we can afford to help some 'rebels' in another country...
Erik1976......
Spot on!
Amen, Erik----let someone else take on this battle.
I thought the Republicans were going to make jobs their number one priority. So far, they have introduced zero job creation bills in the House. Is the U.S. at full employment and I just missed it?
I said it before, and I'll say it again. Tax the greedy teachers. Everyone knows that those unions have money to burn.
In California they do.
I wonder when Wisconsin and Michigan and Ohio are going to be invaded and rescued from their dictators? Could use some help there!!
LMAO - you are on a roll these days Snook!
I listened to President Obama's address and once again am impressed by his behind-the-scenes efforts to establish a coalition of UN, NATO and Arab League forces. The media and the critics who have whined that the President hasn't been doing enough again have egg on their faces. You'd think they would learn by now that just because Obama isn't speaking everyday does not mean he isn't busy working on solutions. Convincing Russia, China and three other countries to abstain from voting in order to allow the UN to proceed is no easy task. The President was clear and concise on exactly what the UN Resolution entails, no ground forces but the U.S. along with other countries will do what it takes to stop Gaddafy from killing the Libyan people. President Obama stated prior to ever running for President that he was opposed to "dumb wars"; I trust his judgement that this step is necessary to prevent the murder of thousands and the destabilization of the middle east.
The wise man stays silent and only speaks when the time is right.
"Walk softly and carry a big stick" TR Bull Moose party.
Never claimed I was a wise man.
Great post, Jody. I think part of the impatience is from the 24/7 cable news coverage that constantly wants action and developments. The real world just doesn't work that fast, especially in diplomatic areas.
Jody, I agree! The way the President is handling this crisis in Libya reminds me of how Bill Clinton worked with the UN to remove Slobodan Milosovic in Serbia without deficit spending or losing American lives.
Not to worry, I'm sure he'll vote "Present" when the time comes.
Obama is an agitator - it is outside his scope of experience to lead.
Michele Bachmann just called-she is outraged that she is not in on the conference call---a conspiracy against the Tea Party, for sure.
Michele Bachmann thought the huddle with Obama was in regards to LibsRus and she wanted to get into the secret Inn.
Amyone else think the name Dutch Ruppersberger sounds like a made up name for a First Read poster?
Hey "True American...tell all the hundreds of children killed in Irak witj the weapons of mass destruction lies....and Afghanistan during your backbone president Bush era....
What in the world is the UN for....but to do exactly what they did....now that everything was done according to the rules and laws of the land...not the US but the world...including the Arab league...all you do is show ignorance and complain....
Let's face it...you hate the president of the United States of America...why?...because he's black...shame on you...go back to the old west and the 18th century where all of you belong....this is the 21st century of the greatest country in the world...
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Thanks for the reminder that we are still the greatest country in the world, Ram Riva. I sure wouldn't want to live anywhere else (although I wouldn't mind spending winters somewhere warm!).
Who's up for a jaunt over to the Dew Drop? This thread is getting depressing.
Feisty- we bringing our own 'set-ups', or will Mr Speaker be serving us once he's done sweeping up the peanut shells from the floor from last night?
It definitely is time for Happy Hour at the Dew Drop Inn, Drive-by. THe crew worked hard all morning cleaning up after last night's St. Patrick's Day party----you wouldn't believe the places where they found shamrocks!! So tonight it is March Madness with all the big screens tuned to the games. The house band will be playing during commercials---they liked the Irish band we had yesterday but are ready for some good old country bluegrass tonight. First round is on me to celebrate the Pitt Panthers' victory yesterday.
Oh and we'll be taking up a collection for the poor people in Japan in honor of Grimey's son.
Well, Steeler Fan- I hope everyone enjoys the hoops. I just hope no one did something completely un-American, like filling out a bracket-sheet!
He ain't necessarily country, but see if the beat-box has a copy of David Brombergs' 'New Lee Highway Blues' in there. Best damned fiddlin' you'll hear tonight, perhaps.
Drive-by----of course we are having a bracket contest---everyone has entered sheets! I peeked at yours---you are doing very well so far. One entrant forgot to put a name on the sheet but did leave the initials BHO---who could that be?!
Probably some SLACKER! (you didn't tell anyone about my Louisville pick, I hope.....)
I haven't had a drink in at least a couple of years. dbo, SF....can someone pour me a tall one?
Lips are sealed, Drive-by.
Hey, can you teach that trick to True Armenian??
We've missed you over at the Inn, Chris---and you haven't seen our new hotel--The Come Back Inn----usually a pretty full house but always room for you!!
Your beverage of choice is waiting for you!
Thanks SF! Count me Inn!
Am I late? Is there any Stoli's left? Great music on the box, heard it comin all the way up the hill.
Look what I just cut-and-pasted from the Fox Forums 'you decide' board, where they asked readers if Obama should go to South America:
" I think South America is a great idea. What with the weekly weather forcast calling for radio-active rain and cancerous Easterly winds. You'll note he took his whole family.
Obama is the Anti-Christ"
Is this precious, or what? Danged ol' liberal media, anyway!
OMG drive-by-observer.you went over to FOX? I hope you had your hazmat suit on.
I hadn't been over there for a couple of years, and just wondered. It is still the same bottomless pit of garbage it was back then, too. Now I know where their 'reporters' get their 'stuff'.
Yes, I had my Hazmat gear on, under my hip-waders, of course.
Wow, this has sure been hilarious reading today. Do the Docs know that True American is off his meds? I hope he remains off them. The truth as the right-wing nuts see it on full display!
Too funny, Tom. Hope we see you over at the Inn.
So what's doin' over at the Inn?
Mind if I sidle on by there to meet up with my new comrades at arms?
Steeler Fan, I wish I could but I live way over here in Wally Hergerland. You guys sure know how to have a good time. I will toast to you though. Have a good one.
I think "Truly Un-American" has a latent need for self-validation. Seems like (s)he has to manufacture an exalted title to conceal his / her inadequacies.
Of course that becomes obvious with their every post.
Greg -
Uncle Redneck, our resident innkeeper, has been a bit under the weather today, so things are a little late getting started. But come on down, the popcorn's hot, the margaritas are cold, and the conversation, as always, is lively!
BTW:
You might think that the peanut shells were from a St. Patty's Day celebration last night, but you would be wrong. Spanky's family had a celebration there last night cause Spanky's Grandma made parole. ;o)
These pretzel's are making me thirsty!!
Joanne in PA:
Thank you so much for your gracious invite. You shall see me there. I am partial to margaritas myself. As long as they use Mezcal tequilla. It's got that smoky taste and you can almost taste the bat crap, and that drowned worm in the bottom. :o)
I also rather enjoy pomegranate martinis lately, with pineapple juice.
And if Fiesty's popcorn from yesterday is any guide, then I will love a giant vat of that as well,....with one diving board.
I don't know if Domenico is going to do a 'Week Ahead' thread - so I'll post this here just in case! ;o)
Here's a formal invite to the newest member of the First Read Family - Greg in Detroit!
I’m sorry to report, that our usual Friday night ‘Master of Ceremonies’ is under the weather this evening!
Not to worry - Independent Redneck is tucked safely in a nice warm feather bed over at the Come Back Inn. We’re taking good care of him with some home-made chicken noodle soup (it’s good for the soul they say ;o) and a nice ‘hot toddy’ with honey!
What an action packed week around here @ FR! Domenico & Ali you deserve to sneak out a bit early and have a drink or two! You’re always welcome to drop by the Dew Drop Inn you know?
You both did a fabulous job holding down the ‘boiler room’ in Mark’s absence!
On a more somber note, let’s not forget the Japanese people and the suffering they’re going through!
We had quite a few loyal First Readers yesterday make a matching (or above) donation in honor of the generous action by Frank ‘Grimey’ Grimes brilliant son!
In case you missed the story, his son gave him $10.00 of his allowance money to send to the Red Cross because he knew the Japanese children don’t have any toys! Grimey being the proud papa he is, wouldn’t take the money but sent the $10.00 text donation on behalf of his son!
Most of us spend that amount a day on a latte or lunch – I challenge YOU to match the giving spirit exhibited by a little boy!
http://www.redcross.org/m
It’s got to be quitting time somewhere already –now who wants to head on over to the Dew Drop Inn?
We can kick back a few cold ones and play a game of ‘Where in the world is Mark Murray?’
Sure hope we don’t see him turn up on a Deputy Political Director’s Gone WILD’ DVD!
DBO – you’re in charge of the juke box for this evening! Some Smokey Robinson’s ‘Tears of a Clown’ sounds good! We can dedicate it to the ‘Weeper of the House’! lol
Steeler Fan, Clara and the rest of the ‘hoop addicts’ are in charge of the menu & I’ll make sure the bar is well stocked & bring my famous *popcorn*!
PS: The Spanky grama's comment was PRICELESS! LMFAO!
Excellent Red!!
See you at the INN
:-)
Wow-
What a mess.
The wheels have completely come off at First Read.
The UN declares a no fly zone....who will support this? Our aircraft carriers off of the coast? And at what fiscal cost, and possible life of our airman?
The situation is bad, but do we actually want to go into another theater of operations while still in two others. With our country broke, and a number of posters on the thread unhappy with the two existing conflicts, how will we, if directed, move to police another country at the behest of the UN? Do we have the funds or people to become involved. Heck, our troops have spent enough time and tours in foreign lands with no tangible results.
Are you ready to institute another draft? What is the UN plan other than sending planes, probably ours, in the air to combat the threat for those citizens? Has anyone heard of the US plan as yet?
I am no hawk, and neither a pacifist, but what tangible outcome are we moving to?
I suspect stock market stability Safecracker. Sanguine economic conditions, and of course, most importantly, humanitarian saving of human life. Just like we SHOULD HAVE done in Boznia / Herzegovenia.
Greg in Detroit, True American probably drives one of those jacked-up trucks too! After today he might want to put in a new lift kit. Might help him feel bigger.
Odd you mention that Tom.
I've long noticed that the Connies seem to favor high-horsepower, big cars, trucks.
Compensating for something are they?
Tom -- I beginning to think he's pi$$ed because the wheels on this double wide went flat and the septic tank is backed up...
Just a hunch! ;o)
Greg in Detroit, are you British by any chance? Connies, indeed!
Gregg, That is the true definition of a Teabagger.
Fiesty---Or that last tooth is ready to come out. You guys have a good week-end. Cheers!
You too Tom!
Hope to see you next week!
And they do all this during between the basketball game commercials and playing on the beach!!!!
The man is on vacation in Rio whilst we have crisis in Libya and other parts of the world. What kind of presidency is this. Barry is enjoying himself , isn't he?
I can see where you'd confuse International Diplomacy for vacation time. Cuz' clearing brush is SO MUCH MORE PRESIDENTIAL!