AP
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker speaks to the media yesterday at the Chippewa Valley Regional Airport in Eau Claire, Wis.
From NBC's John Yang
Wisconsin law allows for the recall of any elected official -- even members of Congress, though that hasn't been tested in federal court -- including the governor. But a recall effort cannot be launched until the official has been in office for a fulll year. So the earliest an attempt could be made to recall Gov. Scott Walker (R) would be Jan. 2012.
To hold a recall election, petitioners must collect signatures equal to 25% of all the votes cast in the most recent gubernatorial election -- in this case, about 533,000 signatures -- within 60 days of filing. And, of course, those signatures are subject to challenge. If a recall election is held and the elected official is not recalled -- that is, wins the recall election -- he cannot be the target of a recall drive for the rest of his term.
In Wisconsin, there are currently recall petition drives underway against eight Republican senators and eight Democratic senators.


Recall this!
Since the 1980's Wisconsin (not the "50 years of precedent" the left claims) union officials could require government workers pay their dues or fees or be fired. Walker's bill ends that (except for police and firefighters).
Losing the combination of forced dues (and automatic collection at tax payer expense) is what unions are so scared of. Without forced dues, they'll have to consider "what would my members think of me spending their money on this" instead of knowing they'll continue to pay because they want to keep their job.
Imagine that ; Democrats will lose an endless revenue stream of taxpayers dollars funding their partisan political campaigns!
While the private sector worker is unemployed, here are the poor oppressed workers the Dems are covering for:
MILWAUKEE CITY BUS DRIVERS (salary only):
136 Drivers made more than $70,000
54 Drivers made more than $80,000
18 Drivers made more than $90,000
8 Drivers made more than $100,000
Top Driver made $117,000 (Source WTMJ)
Bob-1887910
Recall this; booby trap!
You're in the wrong millennium.
Please Insult Me!
Recall this; booby trap!
You're in the wrong millennium
Another insightful and provocative post from Beverly.
Notice how she used her reputable unbiased sources of information to dispute what Bob posted about forced union dues?
No?
Me either.
Surprise, you won't either because you like him are in the wrong millennium. What is it with you dolts dwelling in lies and non-factual references?
Taking away all the shrillness and faux anger the Left is putting out, what remains is this fact. Now the public employees of Wisconsin (and Indiana, and Ohio) will be paying their fair share for their benefits and pensions - no longer is the taxpayer responsible for those payments. Additionally, now unions will be more accountable to their members.
And all this recall bluster from the Left is just that. It's their way of throwing a childish tantrum. Maybe one, but probably none of the recalls will ever occur. The Left will take their Hitler signs, and their rampaging into the Capitol in Wisconsin, and the shouting of their slogans, and they'll have their little hugging and crying get togethers, but in the end, Wisconsin is better off, it has a balanced budget, it maintains it's workforce, and now everyone is paying their fair-share.
Tax cuts for the rich equals an endless stream of tax payer money for the right. At least be honest with yourself Bob.
It's interesting that you conveniently left out the fact that they earned this by working overtime.
Some averaged over 80 hours per week to earn this.
an accient proverbs....Those whom god wishes to destroy, he first makes mad. Be careful what you wish for. Freedom is my right.
BOB, who & what is WTMJ, 1st of all? Thats some pretty steep wages there for a Bus Driver anywhere!
Al-Cracker is beginning to show America just how Mad they are for electing an African-American as our President! They screamed & shouted for 2 years leadingup to the 2010 elections. Then they sat & watched as Democrats & left Leaning likeminded Voters Moaned & Groaned about how President Obama had'nt fulfilled Every Promise made to any certain group within a certain time period. These same Democrats, etc, then Proceeded to Stay Home in Protest & not Vote in 2010, all the Time laughing at TeaParty/Republicans.
Well, here's your Results Democrats!
Are ya Happy now that Nothing is gonna get done in a certain time alloted by yourselves?
Moan & Groan somemore in your Homes while you're still in them (Homes), because more American's will putout ofem with the way Al-Cracker is going about Gverning.
Democrats sat back & watched as TP/Republicans tookover massive amounts of Government across America because they were Pissed at President Obama!
Well, this is the Results!
How pissedoff areya Now?
The bus driver statistics are irrelevant. Those are a product of furloughs and seniority: two things the unions opposed but were forced to concede to Republican governments in the past. This allowed bus drivers with seniority to take as many shifts as they wanted, as they have many open shifts. The bus drivers who took the most shifts worked 70 or more hours per week; not only is that a lot or hours in general, it's 30 hours of overtime pay. It's not the union's fault that furloughs were forced upon them; they opposed them from the beginning, and the fact that some bus drivers worked really hard does not lend credence to anti-union sentiment.
Rick,Ky
BOB, who & what is WTMJ, 1st of all? Thats some pretty steep wages there for a Bus Driver anywhere!
Al-Cracker is beginning to show America just how Mad they are for electing an African-American as our President! They screamed & shouted for 2 years leadingup to the 2010 elections. Then they sat & watched as Democrats & left Leaning likeminded Voters Moaned & Groaned about how President Obama had'nt fulfilled Every Promise made to any certain group within a certain time period. These same Democrats, etc, then Proceeded to Stay Home in Protest & not Vote in 2010, all the Time laughing at TeaParty/Republicans.
Well, here's your Results Democrats!
Very insightful, sadly it's true. Now the question is Whatcha gonna do me T-baggers and GOP?
Naturally, that answer is the same thing; continue to bankrupt this country, send jobs overseas, and suck up to the banksta and Wall Street barons.
The critical left who got their 15 minutes prior 2010 better stay fired up or else they are going blow it. That would be a t-baggers delight.
Fault? Dude fact is the drivers are making too much money for the services they provide.
The amounts earned have to be reduced, or guess what bus service is going to go away.
So do you defend to the death the driver's "right" to earned six figures or fix the system? Do you really think the unions is going to allow the fix?
Of course not. And therein lies the problem.
Please Insult Me! -
Don't you know? Bev's Bevvy of sources is from the seat of her pants.
There is no excuse for a post like that, John, you owe Beverly an apology. That is also a violation of COH. I rarely report, but I have flagged this one.
Hey NDD - Did you happen to catch this little gem from Johnny on Tuesday?
He's a real 'class act' isn't he?
Feisty:
He is a typical little fellow of low esteem, no ideas and mentally impotent. His Mommy should changed his diapers.
Yep, he has nothing of value to say.
NDD:
I know you did not think that was offensive.........DO you ever read your beloved Fiesty's posts????? or Navy and the rest of your minions.
Basically all he said is she is full of shyt.....There I said it...flag me.....it won't be the first time.
Looks like the right wing crowing is a bit premature:
I mentioned earlier, the crossed-eyed weasel may think he's won the battle, but, he sure as hell isn't going to win the war!
How many votes did that one get yesterday? 24 you say? Truth hurts.
Oh, as to apologizing to Bev...not gonna happen in this lifetime.
Then you are nothing but a boor, and I assume that you will eventually be banned from Newsvine for cause.
Yea, Good luck with that.
newday - care to enlighten us all on the number of times you flagged fiesty, beverly or pat of boston?
Thanks John.
Who cares about a year? The point is to recall the other Koch Sucker rubber stamps affiliated with Gov. Snot Walker NOW!!
I'm sure they will be many re-thugs trying to steal signatures now that we know how they steal things; even democracy.
Beverly, please keep your obscenities to a minimum. Though God knows Chicago politicians like Blago and Rahm Emanuel are foul mouthed, along with "big f'in deal" Biden
Koch suckers, teabaggers are crude sexual references. Is that all ya got?
Bob-1887910
Beverly, please keep your obsenities to a minimum.
Koch suckers, teabaggers are crude sexual references. Is that all ya got?
Listen Koch Sucker, you are not my husband or father. And you can't cyber bully me; Sucker.
The American people should recall Obama. Not Walker. He is only trying to balance the budget, which you Libs probably never heard the word.
Juven, but the way the bill was passed last night is illegal according to Wisconsin law if it's budget related.
According to your description, that means the bill is illegal.
Please Insult Me!
Listen Koch Sucker, you are not my husband or father.
Dear God. I can't imagine what it would be like to be either.
Yeesh.
That's too bad my DNA doesn't breed spineless invertebrate or reptilian brains.
Thank God
I imagine Gov. (the crossed-eyed weasel) Walker is booking his flight to 'Cali' to party with the Koch Brothers at this very moment!
Let the RECALLS begin…
Stand UNITED Gang of 14 – you have the hard working people on YOUR side!
Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame
Hat Tip to Debbie for the 'weasel' reference! ;o)
Walker is clearly not only trying to balance the budget. His chief objective is to try to weaken dem influence in WI. The comment has even been made by republicans, to the effect of 'if the bill passes Obama will have a very hard time winning WI.'
Walker said, it is either this, or they lay off 1,500 employees, right? If the unions act in the best interests of their member, don't you think they would choose what is best for their employees? If layoffs are the path they choose, rather than giving up benefits or rights, then why can't Walker accept that?
Maybe, because it has nothing to do with balancing the budget. Maybe it has everything to do with the 'surge' in popularity of the conservative fiscal agenda, and the opportunity it has presented republicans in Wisconsin to weaken a sector of the population that traditionally backs Democrats. Wouldn't the defiance of two court orders, issuing illegal (and unconstitutional) arrest warrants and holding an illegal meeting of congress not clue you in?
By the way, where are all the Tea Partiers, demanding a return to 'constitutional' government at? Gov. Walker and the republican senate members blatantly violated Wisconsin law and they seem surprisingly silent. I guess the constitution doesn't apply to republicans, or 'balanced budget' agendas....
Oh, and I'm pretty sure we've heard the word. No republican has balanced the federal budget since Eisenhower did from 1956-1957 (Reagan never came close...), and before that, Truman (a democrat) did in 1951. So...don't pretend conservatives have some sort of amazing track record in balancing the budget. The past 32 years worth of republican presidencies have failed to do it (Eisenhower after '57, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, H.W., and W.).
They are...they ran like the chickensh!ts they are...a real politician would of stayed and fought for his constitutes.
Kansas 'Lib'
I was just tuned into politics at the time of the re-match Ike vs. Stevenson. Most of those years (you reference) under GOP Presidents, the house was firmly in the hands of Dems, who control the purse strings. If those GOP Presidents were more like the Dems in Wis., we would have truly had numerous government shutdowns over the past sixty years. And, to top it off the Dem President you claim had a balanced budget, did it with a GOP house. So, what's your point?
You keep standing, you will find yourself without a job pretty soon. I say you want to start this recall BS.....It is not hard to get 500,000 signatures to recall you Democrats either, but Republicans don't have time for that foolishness.
While Democrats are re-living the 60's, Republicans will continue to work on issues that are important to Republicans after all we are the ones that BRUNG YA.
By voting 'no' and watching it pass without issue? Pretty sure this would have been over 3 weeks ago if they stayed. How is that "fighting" for their constituents?
This was the only option they had to fight for their constituents. And the best part--public opinion of Walker has reversed course.
Previous comment was @John.
@wonderwhy?--I guess by that logic then, you could attribute the last three balanced budgets to dem controlled congresses right? In 1951, Sam "Mr. Democrat" Rayburn (D-Texas) was House Speaker and there was a dem-controlled Senate. In 1956-57, Rayburn was again the House Speaker and there was (again) a dem-controlled Senate.
Reagan did have a repub-controlled Senate throughout most of his presidency, but couldn't get the job done.
My point though, was that the president proposes the federal budget. How many balanced budgets were actually even presented to congress by republicans during those presidencies?
kansas lib - better reread the US constitution, it is the house that proposes and submits the budget to the senate and then to the president for approval. The president is only given the privelage of proposing what he would like to see, not what will be.
Recall all the Republican senators!!
Sure Tommy, but you will still lose the next election. When your party is in power, you seem to forget about recalls. How convenient. Then again,that is how you Lefties work.
Recall all the Democrat senators!!
Juven, I do not consider myself a "lefty". I proudly voted for Reagan.
Unfortunately, the Republican party stopped following Reagan long ago.
Governor Reagan raised corporate taxes from 5.5% to 9% to help solve California's budget crisis.
President Reagan signed a $750 billion stimulus bill in 1981 dollars. Today, that would be close to $2 billion stimulus.
Sadly, today's Republican party continues to ignore those facts.
Debbie, of course, you are quite correct. And it is also true that Reagan liberalized the abortion laws in the state. But, in the sanitized version, (read that, the rewriting by the "teabaggers") it will be hard for them to admit that their "hero" was a far more reasonable man then they are.
We have been sufficiently warned by our leaders of the past what happens when we turn a blind eye to corporate greed. Again, from Theodore Roosevelt's "New Nationalism " speech. The absence of effective state, and especially, national, restraint upon unfair money-getting has tended to create a small class of enormously wealthy and economically powerful men whose chief object is to hold and increase their power." Sound familiar? Yes. No matter what side of the aisle you are on, it is time to exert some control and remind state officials that ultimately, they are responsible to the electorate. Let the recalls begin.
Teddy Roosevelt was an advocate for individualism, and hated socialism. "It would spell sheer destruction," he said. "It would produce grosser wrong and outrage, fouler immorality, than any existing system."
He has been proven right!
When you give a partial quote, Bobby, you use this symbol....here is how Roosevelt finishes that thought, from the Citizenship in a Republic Speech:...but this does not mean that we may not with great advantage adopt certain of the principles professed by some given set of men who happens to call themselves Socialists. To be afraid to do so would make a mark of weakness on our part." See, when you use the whole quote, it changes the impact. But what we are discussing today has nothing to do with socialism. It has to do with right v wrong, corporate greed and how this country gets back to understanding that to have a great nation, we must have a thriving middle and working class.
Thanks, John, for timely information. I hope that every politician who can be recalled is---both sides of the aisle. Let the people of WI have a new election for each person and decide if they want him/her to stay in office based on their actions since this began.
Let the recall begin.
Also, Bob
The money the union members give is their earned money and not the taxpayers. Get the facts please, and not the play book stuff from the right.
"democrats will lose an endless revenue stream of taxpayers dollars funding their partisan political campaigns!"
"The money the union members give is their earned money and not the taxpayers"
It is the individual worker's earned income , not the unions. So you must agree, then, that the individual worker should have a choice as to what to do with his or her earned income ..
Otherwise, it is undeniable that taxpayer's money is directly funneled to the Democratic Party.
So be it. The Democrats fight for the workers and Republicans fight for the rich. Union busting is not going to work. There will be a recall of these Republicans.
Are we forgetting the unions gave up money and benefits already. They wished to keep their rights. What motive could they have to keep going as long as they have if not to take something else.
Bob do you have the choice as what to do with his or her earned income that you give to corporation when you buy their products? Same as when union members buy products of unions, such as representation and benefits and so much more. So tell me Bob where does your earned income go? I'd bet to the GOP/TP candidates they want it to go to not where you want it to go. So you don't have a choice do you.
job1 - have a nice wait until 2012 and don't forget the 60 days you have to collect the required number of signitures...
Really barbh - thought they just talked about it. When were the contracts renogotiated and signed?
MO - better rethink your post when you say...
Same as when union members buy products of unions, such as representation and benefits and so much more.
Union rank and file don't buy pensions or healthcare from the unions unless the unions mandates that the rank and file have to from a union sponsered plan. If this were the case then no state funds were used to fund the healthcare and pension plan and wisconsins request that the rank and file do contribute would be mute.
As far as your argument concerning corporations and how money is spent by the corporation based on sales to the consumer is flawed. First the consumer agrees to the price charged. Second the consumer agrees that the company can use the money paid as the company sees fit. If the consumer doesn't want any of his money given to a political party, then they shouldn't have bought the product.
One last thing MO, you do realize that a lot of corpporations give money to both political parties during any given election campaigns.
Tommy I agree.
I think it is time for the masses to wake up and realize that ALL Republican elected officals
are only concerned with the well being of the wealthy upper 2%. It is time for the other 98% of us to
take over and recall all republican officals and replace them with those who will represent us.
I am so enjoying this ...the majority of voters in WISCON....voted these "BUMS" in ...they did exactly what they said they would do ...if i remember correctly ..the next project was to end the 40 hr work week.. making it so no benefits are offered to you by the employer ...
The Republicans NEVER campaigned on taking away collective bargaining rights.
Less than 50% of eligible voters participated.
Debbie - regardless of the number of eligible voters voting the majority voting is still the majority. Those elegible voters not voting have no claim to complain. Let them remember the lesson when the next election rolls around.
Obama campaigned on "hope and change" and many of us are still hoping that change will take place.
Red State:
Next up in Wisconsin: Passing Voter ID bill to defang voter fraud (such as phony voters for recall petitions and elections)
After scoring a big win last night in Wisconsin which will be finalized with passage today, it’s time to put the voter ID bill up for debate and a vote. Former governor Jim Doyle vetoed this three times while he was in office but now there is nothing to stop cleaning up fraud that has been happening in Madison and Milwaukee for years.
The Democrats, unions and the progressives in Wisconsin know their time is very, very short and are going to pull out all the dirty tricks. They have to try to get GOP Senators and Stonewall Walker recalled by whatever means (wink-wink) before the inevitable economic improvement and resulting poll numbers that will put them in a minority for at least a generation. Something that shouldn’t be taken lightly is just how important Wisconsin is to Barack Obama’s chances of getting re-elected. Passing the voter ID law will force Barack Obama to campaign heavily in the state on what is traditionally a very reliable blue state for the general election.
You do realize the Wisconsin attorney general (Republican) has already spent over $100,000 pursuing voter fraud and has found a handful of cases.
Even more ironic, the majority of those found guilty are Republicans.
If you pay taxes in the state, you are entitled to representation in Wisconsin.
If you do not pay taxes in Wisconsin, than you should pay attention to what America did to the British.
So true Debbie. If the people on the right would do the research they would see only a handful of voter fraud cases.
Bob,
Two years ago the Democrats and virtually all political pundits, were stating that the Republican party was becoming irrelevant, and would at most be a regional party. I bring this up in reference to your comment about the Democrats "being in the minority for a generation". As a Republican, I was happy to see that everyone was wrong about us. As a Republican, I expect that you should be somewhat more circumspect in your predictions, history repeats itself, even reverses course on occasion.
Its hard to believe that so many people are ignorant of the facts but just listen to lumpball and rove for their information. The unions were responsible for giving us better wages than 3.50/hourly. I guess if you want to work for that amount then go to Wisconsin where walker can pay you and your ilk at that wage as well as have you work unlimited overtime for less pay. Come on people, wake up, we are quickly becoming a dictatorship country.
Teachers already aren't entitled to overtime pay (basically treated as 'exempt' employees). I know many, who work 55+ hour weeks. While many feel their nice schedules (Winter break, Spring break, and Summer off) don't entitle them to any more than they make (many start around $30,000/yr in the midwest), it actually works out that good teachers only work about 30 days less than the average full-time (40 hr/week) worker (based on teachers working 186 days x 55 hours vs. 286 days x 40 hours).
I don't know of many people who are as educated as the teachers I work with, who would even be willing to do their jobs, much less at the same pay. If Walker really wants to reward and attract good teachers, this is the absolute wrong direction. Google "The Equity Project" to see how to attract the best teachers available....
Fine. But then also acknowledge that this is a political move on the part of the Right to defund a Left funding source and then channel resources to Right-leaning causes.
Seven out of the top ten outside groups in spending in the 2010 midterm elections were conservative. They spent a total of $124,446,826. Unions spent a total of $37,178,920.
The seven of the top ten outside groups in 2010 spending are right wing groups created by and supported by Karl Rove and the Koch brothers and funded by corporations, billionaires, hedge fund managers, oil companies, etc.
Here are the facts on the top 10 outside campaign spenders in the 2010 midterm elections.
1. US Chamber of Commerce (right wing group); 2010 total spending $32,067,500
2. American Action Network (right wing group); 2010 total spending $26,088,031
3. American Crossroads (right wing group); 2010 total spending $21,553,277
4. Crossroads GPS (right wing group); 2010 total spending $17,122,446
5. SEIU (union); 2010 total spending $15,794,194
6. AFSCME (union); 2010 total spending $12,631,170
7. American Future Fund (right wing group); 2010 total spending $9,599,806
8. Americans for Job Security (right wing group); 2010 total spending $8,991,209
9. NEA (union); 2010 total spending $8,746,556
10. Club for Growth (right wing group); 2010 total spending $8,240,060
Source: http://www.opensecrets.org/outsidespending/index.php#groups
This strategy is right out of the republican playbook. The Republican goal is to destroy labor unions to remove election spending competition. It really is that simple. They plan to eliminate unions to take away the only goups that can compete in big money spending during elections even on a small scale with the right wing groups funded by the Koch brothers, corporations, billionaires, hedge fund managers, oil companies, etc. If there are no unions, all of the big money in politics would be right wing money.
Since Citizen's United, the unions can't barely compete with the spending of right wing groups and their billionaire supporters. Busting unions will eliminate it all together, leaving no one to compete financially, which will have devastating affect on the middle class.
There is still time to save the middle class but we are close to the point where it will be too late.
Great information (although it's beyond depressing). This might spell the beginning of the end for workers rights in America. The worst part of it all; Koch's astroturf groups like AFP are charging republicans $20/head to come on board and 'organize' to finish the job off. It's a silent genocide, being carried out against workers, by workers and small business owners--bank-rolled by corporate greed.
The party of greed and war marches onward, trampling all in their path...
babina - are you beverlies sister? Your argument trying to prove...
is not validated by your link.
The republicans don't need to destroy the unions, they are becoming obsolete and only see their rank and file as little ATM machines to pay for the obscene lifestyles of the union elite.
Check out the labor laws of the United States We have OSHA, ADA, Workmans comp protection against discrimination because of race, etc,etc.
Corporate wages are competitive based on what it takes to keep good talent. Union pay however is based solely on negotiated amounts, supposed skill sets and senority. No incentive whatever for the worker to want to do his/her best, just an us vs them attitude.
Worked in a union shop, worked with union members, was wooed by unions to vote for them to represent me and my co-workers. The majority of Union workers I have worked along side were conscientious and had good workmanship unfortunately there were the few that just didn't know how to get along or admit to mistakes. The really sad part of union membership was in many of their work rules.
Yes, it is validated by OpenSecrets. It's facts. What is this conservative aversion to facts and accute amnesia affliction?
Wisconsin Senate Majority Leader, Republican Scott Fitzgerald, admits to Fox's Megyn Kelly that the GOP's union-busting agenda is intended to hobble Obama's re-election changes in 2012. "If we win this battle and the money is not there under the auspices of the unions," says Fitzgerald in the clip, "Certainly what you're going to find is President Obama is going to have a much more difficult time getting election and winning the state of Wisconsin."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLJdijPEBJE&feature=player_embedded
Karl Rove has also admitted this on tv.
I'd much rather face a layoff than what I am going to be left with. Not all WI state employees make huge 6 figure incomes. But we are all being treated as if we do. My takehome pay will be a joke--my students will take home more than I do. I took a huge paycut when I took my position with the State knowing the reason was the benifits were ---ok. Trust me they are not the best around either.
And now Walker can further raise these dollar amounts--as he feels the need to suck my dry. With no negotiations or thought for the people who cannot afford to put gas in their cars now.
I do not live "high off the hog" and cannot make many more cuts to my living situation. I also already have a second part-time job. He is giving me good reason to just stop working and go on welfare--then maybe the bags under my eyes would go away.
Oh--MR Walker--my daughter wanted to go to the Science summer camp at UW-Madison--it was all I could do to save for it before the cuts--can you pay the fees please??? I'm broke but she really loves science and would love to go--I'll let you tell her "no".
The people who support this bill claim they make less money than the people who are in unions and make more money. So what do they do, instead of starting their own union so they can improve their lives, they want everyone to struggle like they do. There is no logic to that decision. That thinking is a result of believing the rhetoric espoused by the politicians who make significantly more money than everyone involved in this mess. Think people! You should want to improve your life by taking action for yourself instead of against others.
What bus drivers make in a year has no meaning because it doesn't say how many hours they worked and how many holidays they worked.
The reason Wisconsin resonates with the country is because it is the workers that are protesting, not the unions. The protests didn't happen because union chiefs called them but almost spontaneously though Facebook and other means. People respect the workers -- the teachers -- even if they don't respect union bosses.
Republicans were elected on promising jobs and it seems they are doing everything BUT promoting jobs creation.
Now that Gov. Walker got his way, he has the large task of actually producing jobs. What will he blame should he not be able to actually produce these jobs? We have, here in Florida an equally dim bulb governor. Twice the voters of Florida voted for high speed rail, twice Gov. Jeb Bush denied what the voters wanted, now Gov. Rick Scott (R- anything to make a buck) turned down a high speed rail project, federally funded, which experts have stated would bring in thousands of jobs. The many Republicans that were elected because of their supposed focusing on jobs are going to actually have to produce these jobs, if not, the next election may not be waht the Republicans want.
recall the republican senators now! Then when they are gone impeach the habitual liar. He has lied repeatedly to the people and the Assembly and the senate which are all crimes. Impeach this good for nothing sack of excrement.
I guess we should impeach obama,all he has done is lie to the people,he is no leader ,oil prices are soaring through the roof and we cant even drill to produce our own oil he has cost thousands of jobs, unemployment is a joke another lie on his part, gotmo is not to be closed another lie to get elected.the trillions of dollars in debt this country is in and whats he worried about, bullying This is a weak lieing sack of shi7 that has no buss. trying to ruh a country.
Do share-holders have the right to prevent corporations from using corporate money to buy elections? It is not that different when talking about union members and dues. How many stock-holders had a say in the obscene bonuses paid out to top management in US banks?
Note: If you have Bus drivers working Overtime to earn that kind of pay ie 80+ hours a week, they would be breaking Federal Law and DOT regulations regarding Hours of Service Compliance. Get real.
@Rugger
Well yes, but you do have circumstances where bus drivers actually spend 120 minutes driving, but get paid 10 hours. For example, if they drive a wrestling team an hour away for a meet, spend 8 hours there, and then drive back to the school.... Even so, to make $159k, if overtime = double pay, he would have to work about 81 hours per week, every week (even during Spring Break, etc) at $25/hr.
The funny thing about all of this, is this is going to save tax payers a whopping $5 (plus change) per year per citizen. The precedent this is setting has to be worth at least that. Like a previous poster said, this is a slippery slope toward rescinding OSHA, minimum-wage laws, workers' comp, unemployment insurance, etc. Basically, anything that lowers profit margins. Businesses have succeeded in squeezing workers to get maximum efficiency at minimum pay (who would dare quit in this job market), all while recording record profits. Now, the logically next step is to strip away benefits.
What happened last night in Wisconsin is wrong. These Repulican Senators should be ashamed. This is lower than Whale @!$%# . They call themselves Leaders and they say are thinking of the people. That's a bunch of crap. Recall as many you can, RECALL GOVERNOR WALKER NEXT JANUARY, mAYBE HE WILL QUIT AND WRITE A BOOK. He is worse than some of the Middle East Leaders. Can you imagine him as President??? What a nightmare!!! Gov. Walker I think you just wrote your future as an elected official., we don't need people like you enjoy your time in the limelight . You lie and do everything to get your way. As an Independant Voter, your Approval RATING IS IN THE TOILET. A CTUALLY ITS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE OLD OUTHOUSE THEY USE TO HAVE. THIS IS BULLY TIME TATICS AND YOU ARE A BULLY.
Thank you Randy - NOW LET US RECALL ALL THE REPUBLICANS!!!!! The only thing they preach is Hate and fear!
Don't forget Greed and War...
Walker will become a bad word soon - like another Republican - McCarthy.
Recall NOW !
I wonder if the Dem haters consider themselves Christian!!!! If you do, you're not acting very Christ like. I guess if we could all accept the fact that we all get to have an opinion there wouldn't be so much drama and that wouldn't be any fun at all.