NBC/WSJ poll: Tea Party supporters like Huck

They’re expected to make up about half all of Republican presidential primary voters, and they’re surveying their options.

So who’s winning the Tea Party primary so far?

According to a new NBC/WSJ poll, 53 percent of respondents who said they expect to vote in the GOP presidential primary identified themselves as Tea Party supporters. Their favorite candidate right now: the former Arkansas governor who shot to prominence after winning over conservatives in Iowa in 2008.

Among Tea Party backers, 27 percent said Gov. Mike Huckabee would be their first choice among Republican candidates, with an additional 15 percent calling Huckabee their second choice.  

Huckabee, who has sent mixed signals about how interested he may be in a White House run that would cut off a lucrative TV contract, had the support of about a quarter of GOP primary voters overall in the poll.

Presumed presidential candidate Mitt Romney fares less well among Tea Party types, with 14 percent calling the former Massachusetts governor their top choice for the nomination. (It’s worth noting that the same share of Tea Party supporters named former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin – who enjoys broad support among conservatives but not always the perception of strong viability as a candidate – as their top choice.) Romney and Palin were the second choice of 17 percent and 19 percent of Tea Party fans, respectively.

Romney was the top choice among GOP primary voters who say they are NOT Tea Party supporters, with 32 percent of those voters saying he’s their preferred nominee.

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich was the top choice of 19 percent of Tea Party backers, with another 8 percent calling him their second choice.

Gingrich, who’s the preferred nominee for about 13 percent of GOP primary voters overall according to the NBC/WSJ poll, unveiled a new website on Thursday that indicates he's planning to explore a presidential run.

Former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, who recently delivered the keynote speech at a meeting of the Tea Party Patriots and released a web video praising the movement, was the first or second choice of a combined 15 percent of Tea Party supporters.  His overall support among all GOP primary voters was at just 3 percent in the survey.

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The Tea Party is killing the Republican Party. RIP moderate Republicans. Goodbye Independent voters.

The Democratic Party has a Bigger tent and we have police, firefighters and teachers inside ours.

  • 48 votes
#1 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 2:01 PM EST

63 new Republican House members elected in November respectfully disagree.

That is right.... 63....63...

  • 13 votes
#1.1 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 2:03 PM EST

"The Tea Party is killing the Republican Party..."?

After last November's midterm elections, I'm guessing the Republican Party hopes the bloodbath will continue.

Lol.

  • 7 votes
#1.2 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 2:12 PM EST

Huckleberry is not going to run. He probably cannot raise enough funds and his latest rhetoric will follow him everywhere. That and the fact he cannot beat President Obama anyway.

  • 43 votes
#1.3 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 2:13 PM EST

"new Republican House members elected"

You got lucky. Not a lot of voters turn out for mid terms. Different story in 2012. Huckabee will be crushed.

  • 40 votes
#1.4 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 2:13 PM EST

87 new Republican House members sworn in; just 9 new Democrats.

87-9.

That goes way beyond luck.

That's a statement, Amy B.

  • 8 votes
#1.5 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 2:23 PM EST

Amy B., and this analysis is from someone who states that more progressives are moving to Jon Stewart for their news rather than the other media outlets? What does Jon have to comment on regarding this that is substance other than comedic satire?

  • 5 votes
#1.6 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 2:25 PM EST

haha... this is too funny... Tea Party likes Huck just because he calls the president a Kenyan.... and also that the idolized the Madrassa upbringing (even though the president went to an American International School while in Indonesia).... lol... how stupid can the huckstar be.... The tea party would just ruin the chances for a real contender from the right.

I also here that they are trying to get rid of the new speaker... simply because he's trying to compromise with the president on budget issues.

The Tea Party seems to be getting worse with time.

  • 29 votes
#1.7 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 2:41 PM EST

well what Stewart says is true unlike those idiots over at Fox who just make things up. that counts for something.

  • 26 votes
#1.8 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 2:44 PM EST

Dems are winning. Thanks Tea Party.

  • 27 votes
#1.9 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 2:49 PM EST

In 2008 everyone thought the Republicans were dead for years. In 2010 the economy still sucked and the republicans flourished. 2012 is a Presidential year and Obama is not going to lose as the economy gets better and his base comes out to vote. There will be coattails and the Tea Party will cause the loss of independents.

  • 19 votes
#1.10 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 3:01 PM EST

Mixed Bag
Maine has its share of Tea Partiers, and they all turned out for the Republican primary in 2010 and nominated a man who was dead last in all primary polls among Republicans. LePage went on the win the general when the Democratic candidate and the Independent split 61% of the vote. Now we have the dumbest governor in the history of Maine.

Meanwhile, Maine returned one liberal and one Blue Dog Democrat to the House by comfortable margains. Republicans in the House have already overreached, taking their luck as a mandate to turn back the clock to 1994. In 2012, you are toast.

  • 24 votes
#1.11 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 3:14 PM EST

'Tea Party favors Huck', huh? Well, that explains much that was discussed on Morning Joe today, as they all tried to figure out why Huck said what he did about Obama and Kenya.

  • 14 votes
#1.12 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 3:25 PM EST

Democrats and left-leaning independents who were frustrated in November 2010 and stayed home had better heed the wakeup call that the last election provided. President Obama has fallen short on campaign promises and given in far too much to the right, but the flip side is dangerous to this country.

  • 3 votes
#1.13 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 4:52 PM EST
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Amy..... are you a Ma$$hole or a real Maniac? You really dont live in Maine, I was always told if you live below banga your not from Maine. Im from away, but I lived in Caribou for 10 years. Thats Maine! And Amy.....do you know who the largest employer in Maine is? huh do you! lets see you live in Portland so you either work for the State BIW or a coffee shop. Well you could work for that huge specialty condom shop near the wharf.

    #1.14 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 5:31 PM EST

    Am I the only one, who thinks Huck looks like Gomer Pyle? When I see him, I expect him to say, "Well golly Andy!" If he gets nominated to run for the rabbit at dog races at the track, he will be doing good. I agree with previous posts, the Tea Party was able to squeak in their candidates because it was not a major election. Not only that, if Gomer continues his rhetoric, regarding President Obama's heritage, he is going down, in history, as the most ignorant Republican ever! After George Bush, that is saying something! If the only controversy, the Republicans can lie about, is President Obama's birth certificate and where he was raised; they are in trouble, big time. I never thought I would say this, but I feel sorry for the Tea Party. They bought a "Pig-in-a-poke!" Every one of the potential Republican candidates is a joke. All of you who keep digging up the race card, will be crying come 2012.

    President Obama is the American dream. It is so great to call someone "President" again. I never once call GW, p-r-e-s-i-d-e-n-t. He was an excellent student and became an attorney. He was named to the Harvard Law Review. He was elected a Senator, from Illinois and now he is President of the United States. He has a wonderful, intelligent wife and two lovely children. What an accomplishment, for such a young man. If he were white, I am willing to bet the national debt, the majority of Americans, would vote for him. Oh wait, they did!

    • 9 votes
    #1.15 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 8:03 PM EST

    lol... American dream. ... The democrats bet the national debt too but it must have been double or nothing and apparently they lost. I think you're mistaken about the lovely intelligent wife. That's his mother in law. She lives there too. The only people I have ever heard dig up the race card are always democrats trying to convince themselves that Obama really is a great leader and the only reason why people don't like him is because he's black which he's not. He's white or at least he is as much white as he is black. So even mentioning there is a race card to play is actually a rascist statement and you should be ashamed of yourself. Get some help would ya?

      #1.16 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 9:18 PM EST

      no matter which one is picked, im sure they will wait until the very last minute of the very last day to actually announce they are running, as they will be wanting to squeeze every last second of free air time out of fox news in kind donations.

      • 4 votes
      #1.17 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 9:24 PM EST

      Pawlenty is the way......

        #1.18 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 11:04 PM EST
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        Huckabee will not run, in my opinion. Snarky remark: he bragged about losing weight in 2008, but he has not kept the weight loss.

        Related note: I am offended by the continued use of the term "Teabagger" . It should be filtered out as an obscenity. It is vile and foul, a crude sexual reference.

        • 9 votes
        #2 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 2:02 PM EST

        You are now the Newsvine censor? I don't think so. Besides, the teabaggers gave themselves that moniker. They may be ignorant, but they are still teabaggers.

        • 23 votes
        #2.1 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 2:23 PM EST

        I thought that was the name the "Tea Party" gave themself............I am offended by the term "Tea Party" because I think it insults the heros of the American Revolution.

        • 29 votes
        #2.2 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 2:37 PM EST

        Me too, Lisa. I knew they picked "teabagger" first, but the use of the moniker Tea Party offends my soul. One of my ancestors, ol John from Ireland took part in that.

        • 18 votes
        #2.3 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 2:41 PM EST

        Relax, Bob-

        Use of the term lets you know who...and what, you're talking to.

        Win-win.

        I hope they never stop.

        • 5 votes
        #2.4 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 2:45 PM EST

        I am offended by the use of "Barry," "Obama Care," "libbie commies," too. So What? As other posters have pointed out, the term "tebagger" was coined by the Tea Party itself.

        The Tea Party is only the more far-right members of the GOP. Every single Tea Party candidate ran as Republican. Establishment Republicans like DeMint, Palin, etc. jumped on board to promote themselves, along with financial backing from the Koch brothers, Dick Armey, etc., and most of all their friends at FOX and Hate Radio.

        Look at the Snyder Family (AKA Westboro Baptist Church) that believes the United States is being punished because of gays. The right wing has been moving so far to the right this is what we are seeing. And we will continue to see more and more extremism. Even from Republican leadership and definitely from Tea Party candidates like Christine O'Donnell including recent remarks from Hukabee about the President's background.

        However, when the public learns more (i.e., facts) about things like Gov. Walker in Wisconsin, the tide changes. Look at the polls as the conflict has continued and people find out the deficits were caused by tax cuts and the Repair Bill is just a guise for union busting. Moderates won't go gor it.

        Conservatives are at the edge of a cliff.

        • 25 votes
        #2.5 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 3:05 PM EST

        Bob,

        "Teabagger"

        multiple meanings. 1) one who carries large bags of packaged tea for shipment. 2) a man that squats on top of a womens face and lowers his ...

        See, it's not that bad.

        • 6 votes
        #2.6 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 3:23 PM EST

        You forgot 'goof-balls that smile blankly, and have tea-bags stapled to their headwear'.

        • 11 votes
        #2.7 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 3:26 PM EST

        Hey, they were the ones who were so dumb they didn't know what it meant and adopted it themselves. Only when they were let in on their stupid gaffe did they do a quick cosmetic change to "Tea Party." You should be more worried about the intellect of these folks rather than their moniker.

        • 7 votes
        #2.8 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 3:33 PM EST

        Bob-1887910....is that a teabag(ger) hanging on your chin?? gimme a break and take your mind out of the gutter and this is the true meaning you're searching for: TEA Party = Tax Evading Americans Party....HUCKLEBERRY is a lyin' preacher

        • 8 votes
        #2.9 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 3:35 PM EST

        Chinese tea at that!

        • 4 votes
        #2.10 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 3:51 PM EST

        tell you what, i'll stop smirking when i hear someone say "teabagger" if they will stop metaphorically putting their cojones on the forehead of america, such a disrespectful act deserves a name which captures the true spectrum of the 'obscene' and 'foul.'

        • 5 votes
        #2.11 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 3:59 PM EST

        Lisa,

        No, they gave themselves that name before they realized it had a sexual connotation. Before that, they would wear hats with teabags hanging off of them and they called themselves "teabaggers".

        I call tlhem dopes. Is that less offensive for you?

        • 6 votes
        #2.12 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 4:55 PM EST

        LMFAO......you guys are funny.....funny like pull my finger funny. Try doing something with your pitiful woeful lives, Ive managed to serve my country for 10 years and then work my way up the ladder to a directors position. And just so you know T= tax E=Enough A=Already! Please stop take a deep breath and try saying something semi intelligent! God when all the independents and republicans have to drive home form WORK! The chatter gets embarrassing.Crap I had to read down and find a totally flatulent related feisty spew!

        • 1 vote
        #2.13 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 5:48 PM EST

        Huck is just stringing along his TV viewers, selling his book, and keeping his lucrative contract with Fox so he can make the payments on his new mansion in Florida. You know, keep milking the cow, till she runs dry. I predict, after he promotes whoever Fox decides to back for 2012, he will write another book, and slip on down to sunny Florida to retire and eat steak and lobster every night. He needs to gain a bit more weight.

        • 4 votes
        #2.14 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 6:25 PM EST

        I have to wonder, considering about a year ago the Tea Party was referred to as a fringe group that wouldn't amount to anything. Now all of the sudden it is the GOP and Tea Party. No longer are people just referring to the GOP. In my mind that makes me wonder if these people are afraid of some momentum the Tea Party has started. If the Tea Party had doomed itself already you would think people would be done talking about them much like the Green Party and other political movements that came and while several still exist, no one talks about them. I also wonder why people keep saying the Tea Party is going to doom the GOP. Seeing as the Tea Party sees the GOP as having a closer platform than the Democratic party and we probably will not see a Tea Party Candidate and GOP both running against Obama at the same time, it stands to reason they will work together against Obama. Could also be a simple matter of the Democrats trying to divide the GOP by calling it two different groups even though it is no different than the leanings of the Dems Blue Dogs from the core Democratic party.

        Keep on talking the Tea Party up people. All it does is energize that crowd and further embolden them with the "Yes, We can attitude!" The worse thing Democrats can do for the 2012 election is continued hammering on the ultra conservative base. That just ticks them off, and when the conservative base gets ticked off sparks start flying from the energy they create.

        • 1 vote
        #2.15 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 11:45 PM EST

        Yes Libbies, whip it up. 2012 isn't that far away. If America knew how far to the left the President Obama was going to be - he never would have made it through the DEM primaries much less the national election. And you're lucky most Americans don't understand who actually controls the purse strings - it's not the POTUS - it's the congress and the economy tanked when the DEMs took control in 2006. Amazing fact isn't it. Pres. Bush tried to shut down Fred and Fannie May years ago but the DEMs shot that down. President Clinton didn't balance the budget – it was a Republican congress that did – he was smart enough to sign off and then take the credit. I somehow don't know if this DEM President understands that sort of moderation. We will see. If he just comes out of left field he could be immensely more popular. He also gives us the impression that he is leading America down – like Jimmy Carter did. He's got 2 whole years to turn it around.

          #2.16 - Fri Mar 4, 2011 1:58 AM EST
          Reply

          Huckabee is unelectable, the moderates and independents won't vote for him. Hope the "teabaggers" get their way however. I think there are some pundits that think that if Huckabee gets in, it will be to ruin Romney in the early primaries. I don't know if that is true or not, but what MAY be more true is that contract he has. Quite the pay cut.

          • 13 votes
          Reply#3 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 2:04 PM EST

          Look above you NDD - Bobby's offended by the term they chose for themselves! lol

          Maybe next time, one of them might do a little research before they start parading around with tea bags stapled to their foreheads!

          Tough Tea Bagging little buddy!

          Gotta run...

          PS: Why WOULDN'T they 'like' Huckberry - after all he's a bona fide birther! Birds of a feather and all!

          • 15 votes
          #3.1 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 2:18 PM EST

          I think that it is important to use the name that they selected themselves. Plus, the name "Tea Party" belongs to the heroes of the Revolutionary War! See ya Feisty!

          • 14 votes
          #3.2 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 2:22 PM EST

          oh damn, must be a new day dawning because i was pretty sure the democrats and now 'regular' republicans weren't going around sailing on old wooden ships with rifles, killing raping and razing america, i was pretty sure all they are doing is having a disagreement about the direction the country should/will go in, and i'm pretty sure the 'tea party' republicans are just another side disagreeing with the direction the country should/will go in, but apparently today is finally a new day dawning! I'll keep an eye on the california coast for any wooden ships with colonial-style looking anything on it, or better yet, maybe i should just look for the guns or the imminent threat to not just our values and our laws but to our very lives because until there is a threat of a gun in my face or to the face of anyone for that matter, i will always consider the tea party to be 'out there,' next thing you know they will change their name to the jewish freedom fighters from ww2 or something else equally as rediculous and offensive.

          Personally I am all for presenting your opinion or suggestion or heck just good'ol fashion free speach, regarding politics because afterall politics essentially sets the course of our country. However, I don't understand what having a different view in a non-violent, non-threat based, democracy, suddenly makes you into a 'kill you to defend my family, my land, and my country' "tea party" member from a very real, very serious (people actually died) WAR, I'm stressing the imminent threat and the fact that people were actually dying, american land was actually being taken, but before anyone gets to saying that is what is essentially happening here in american politics, i want to stress the most on the most important fact, the fact that those things were happening to us BY PEOPLE THAT WERE NOT AMERICANS.

          So you disagree, get over it or do something about it, but don't compare another american and their different (and protected under the constitution) views to a foreign enemy that went to war with america, came into america, and tried to kill americans.

          • 1 vote
          #3.3 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 4:13 PM EST

          Okay: let me be the first to ask, was that post at 3.3 apropos of anything relevant

          • 2 votes
          #3.4 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 6:31 PM EST
          CardogDeleted

          Agreed Cardog ... in other words, "beware the power of stupid people in large numbers."

            #3.6 - Fri Mar 4, 2011 10:37 AM EST
            Reply

            because he's a BIRTHER.

            • 11 votes
            Reply#4 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 2:10 PM EST

            You got that right, Pius, and he keeps changing his mind on how "birtherish" he is.

            • 12 votes
            #4.1 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 2:12 PM EST

            I hope he runs and win teabaggerepublican nomination........if he does, guys, please make sure we hang BIRTHERISM on his neck.

            • 10 votes
            #4.2 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 2:24 PM EST

            Pius: No challenge there, Huck is too busy hanging that label on himself. It might be amusing, watching him talk one way to the far right, and then try to reach out to moderates. I don't think he will turn away from the money he is making.

            • 9 votes
            #4.3 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 2:29 PM EST

            ".i..f he does, guys, please make sure we hang BIRTHERISM on his neck."

            No need, Pius. He's managed to hang it there himself!

            • 2 votes
            #4.4 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 4:58 PM EST
            Reply

            Glenn Limbaugh is leading the polls among Whackadoodles.

            • 16 votes
            Reply#5 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 2:12 PM EST

            Thank you LouisJ for that comment and correction to what many believe is a joke - the AG.

            • 3 votes
            #5.1 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 2:26 PM EST

            :^/

              #5.2 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 2:30 PM EST

              Glenn Limbaugh. I think Rush Beck is fuming over that one.

              • 7 votes
              #5.3 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 3:27 PM EST

              Ya think?

              :^D

              • 2 votes
              #5.4 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 3:57 PM EST
              Reply

              Barna research is out with a new survey today which takes the temperature of the "born again" crowd (and a subset which probably ought to be called the "firebreathing" community of believers). It's worth checking out. As an aside, there is another interesting element from their survey: Mr. Obama’s ratings are quite positive among mainline Protestants (62% favorable, 37% unfavorable) but quite negative among those attending non-mainline Protestant churches (37% favorable, 63% unfavorable).

              • 8 votes
              Reply#6 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 2:19 PM EST

              Interesting, RR, any other thoughts on that? Off the cuff I have nothing to add, other than that it's further proof that the farthest fringe of the Conservative Movement has complete control of the GOPTP.

              • 9 votes
              #6.1 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 2:35 PM EST
              Reply

              The TPer's have picked the 3 least likely to win in 2012, Newt, Sarah, and Huck, way to go Tea Party, keep on, keepin' on, you are on a roll. At this rate, we will be rid of all of you by 2016, if that long. Tra, la, la, would you like some lemon with your tea?

              • 9 votes
              Reply#7 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 2:20 PM EST

              With the Tea Party gone Michelle we will actually be able to hear and understand what the candidates are really saying instead of having to "LISTEN" through their non-sensical babble of trying to break everything up just so the Koch Brothers can replace American values with delusional book cliches and Communist methods of controls.

              Here is one sign that a Koch Knight spy is after you. They will hold one finger up in the air and not say anything. They will also point to their lip which is a referance to a group that supports Koch Knight.

              Watch the video jump around and you will see who is behind all of the problems.

              • 1 vote
              #7.1 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 4:21 PM EST
              Reply

              53 percent of respondents who said they expect to vote in the GOP presidential primary identified themselves as Tea Party supporters. Their favorite candidate right now: the former Arkansas governor who shot to prominence after winning over conservatives in Iowa in 2008.

              Proving that the Huckster knows who to lie to. Keep drinking your tea, Conservatives. It's good for you...

              • 10 votes
              Reply#8 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 2:21 PM EST

              That's not tea they're drinking. It's Kool Aid...

              • 3 votes
              #8.1 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 5:27 PM EST
              Reply

              Who cares, they are all idiots.

              • 4 votes
              Reply#9 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 2:21 PM EST

              Republicans don't so much govern as they do break things and pretend that it's governing.

              • 13 votes
              Reply#10 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 2:23 PM EST

              I think the Tea Party may prompt some buyers remorse for many independents and some moderate Republicans. These types of poles help show some of the divide. Heck and even Tea partiers don't like many of the old republicans that came back. 2012 is going to be a bumpy ride. I wouldn't count on the Republicans keeping the house and I wouldn't bet on the Democrats taking over the house.

              • 9 votes
              Reply#11 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 2:29 PM EST

              2010 mid term elections are a wake up call, most of the Dems stayed home thinking no one in their "right" mind would vote for a Repub.   That will not happen again.  PLus the Repubs got a lot of votes, agains the guy in the job now....next time that vote goes Dem way.   Losses in the mid term 2010 was the best thing that could happen heading into 2012.......kind of like a battle cry "remember the crazies they elected last time!! don't let that happen again!!!"

              • 14 votes
              Reply#12 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 2:35 PM EST

              Lisa, I'd don't know if I'd go as far as "best thing", but I do believe it's just a temporary setback. This sea change in the body politic won't last any longer than "Newt's Army" of '94 or the "permanent Republican Majority" of '06.

              • 9 votes
              #12.1 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 2:37 PM EST

              Americans have only short-term memory, if that.

              Conservatives soured on the Republican neocon foreign policy after realizing the mistake of invading Iraq, then they soured on the religious wedge issues with the Terris Schivo intervention, and finally soured on Republicans out-spending and out-taxing Democrats.

              The self-identified Tea Party thought they would correct all that this time around. But instead of seeing a new platform, they talk of "common sense solutions" that are just the same chicken crap policies to expand defense spending, renew attacks on Planned Parenthood (abortion), the EPA (environment), and supply-side "trickle-down" tax cuts for the rich (voodoo economics).

              They are foolish, out-of-touch, and behind the times. The United States is not "exceptional" but rather falling behind due to lack of investment in our future. The Tea Party "Something for Nothing Crowd" will slash this nation into shreds to avoid paying taxes instead of considering intelligent preparations -- most notably job creation.

              • 7 votes
              #12.2 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 4:58 PM EST

              So True you printing money in your basement?

                #12.3 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 5:53 PM EST

                "The Tea Party "Something for Nothing Crowd" will slash this nation into shreds to avoid paying taxes instead of considering intelligent preparations -- most notably job creation"

                ___________________________________________________________________

                Therein lies the crux of the matter. They are counting on giant corporations to run America. Yet those very corporations are sitting right now on record profits. Hardly doing what is in the best interests of the nation hoping that they can destroy any rational politicians and get someone into office they can manipulate like a puppet and who will shuck off all regulation (another Reagan). Then we are back to the days of the robber barons, back to the days of "the concrete jungle".

                Huckabee is just a strange fellow and the last thing this nation needs is a former Southern Baptist preacher in the White House. Christians often laughably claim they are being persecuted in this country. Yet it is those who do not chant their mantras that would truly become the persecuted if fundamentalists ruled. History has shown us that lesson time and time again.

                  #12.4 - Fri Mar 4, 2011 8:27 AM EST
                  Reply

                  I love liberals that live in the land of denial. You represent such a small segment of our country that we really don't care about your lies, attempts at character assassination, and outright support of corrupt liberla politicians.

                  Americans, Republicans and Democrats, are waking up and no longer allowing a minority extremist voice drown out the truth.

                  • 2 votes
                  Reply#13 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 2:59 PM EST

                  Is liberla latin for "liberal"?

                  • 3 votes
                  #13.1 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 4:14 PM EST

                  navyvet, I think your confused with the Tea Party folks. The Tea Party is minority. I do agree with your last statement. Your right, we won't stand any longer for the misinformation about Obama's birth or that Obama is destroying the country or giving tax breaks for the wealthy equates to jobs, or conservative politicians are not corrupt or Obama is a Muslim....ect....ect....Your totally right navyvet98, we won't stand for it any longer.

                  • 7 votes
                  #13.2 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 4:21 PM EST

                  BTW navyvet, thank you for loving us. We love you too! And thank you for your service!

                  • 1 vote
                  #13.3 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 4:31 PM EST

                  lol, @navyvet98: what? ... I thought democrats and republicans are the majority, and i thought according to non-democrats, that all democrats (unless extreme) are liberals, and according to the non-republicans, all republicans (unless extreme) are conservatives, which makes the ones not mentioned (extreme) the minority.

                  @steve 60: Yup.

                  • 1 vote
                  #13.4 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 4:36 PM EST

                  The most embarrassing things in our history, slavery, the Native American Indians (throw in the buffalo for good measure), women’s suffrage, the KKK during the civil rights movement, McCarthyism... In this century there was the invasion of Iraq, Jack Abramoff and K-Street, the Terri Schiavo intervention, Republican/Evangelical sex scandals too long to list, and just outright crazy Birthers. The reason "Boardwalk Empire" and "Big Love" are so popular overseas is because prohibition and polygamy are bizarre behaviors found elsewhere only in Muslim culture.

                  It is not the progressives who are always on the wrong side of history. The reason navyvet and other conservatives think the GOP is pure as the driven snow, and the Democrats are evil leftists, is because they live in their bubbles of like-minded reaffirmation, otherwise known as "group think."

                  Turn off FOX, Hate Radio, stop distributing your viral Emails, and come into the 21st Century.

                  • 10 votes
                  #13.5 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 5:09 PM EST

                  Wow True I really dont know what to think of you. You open your mouth and stuff that should be coming out of the other end flows so freely! I rarely come across an american that truly feel ashamed of serving for, But I believe you fit the bill. I spent 10 years annd 3 combat tours defending the freedoms of this country and came home to people like you hate filled name calling blood tossing liberals. I swear I saw one of them at the State house in Wisconsin last week on TV! brought back a flood of bad memories.

                  • 1 vote
                  #13.6 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 6:00 PM EST
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                  I think the teabaggers are kidding themselves if they think they will actually choose the GOP nominee. the Koch boys will make the decision and the baggers will fall in line like the good little puppets they are.......or is it patriots? or we could compromise and call them puppet patriots or puptriots. ("puptriots" ~~ I think I like it, it sounds like those that inhabit the planet of Glenn Beck & Michelle Balloonhead Bachmann)

                  • 8 votes
                  Reply#14 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 3:01 PM EST

                  Well maybe the KOCH BROTHERS will buy us a better President and administration than GEORGE SOROS bought and sold us in 2008.

                  • 3 votes
                  #14.1 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 3:07 PM EST

                  Same thing manworkinonit. The Tea Parties were bought and paid for by the Koch boys.

                  • 7 votes
                  #14.2 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 3:41 PM EST

                  The weak minded will fall before them while the American Spirit and the true VALUE of America will crush them into dust.

                  • 2 votes
                  #14.3 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 4:16 PM EST

                  navyvet, I'll bet that Obama WISHES he had money from Soros. Just because the asses on Fox News rail that Soros is funding the Democratic Party, doesn't make it so.

                  It is demonstrably true that the Koch Bros. and Fox News are funding the Republicans. Rupert Murdoch gave them $2 million dollars in just the last election. Soros made a contribution in 2004 to John Kerry and ever since the fox news liars have claimed he is the driving force behind the DNC. It's just not so.

                  • 5 votes
                  #14.4 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 5:08 PM EST

                  Another comparison to Soros are the crooks on Wall Street who sold toxic mortgage securities (to pensions) and then hedged against these for profit. Ask Iceland who caused their bankruptcy--it was Wall Street, not Soros.

                  Instead of throwing these Wall Street crooks in jail, the taxpayers gave investment bankers large bonuses. Instead of taking away tax breaks on dividends, capital gains, and estate taxes, the GOP complains about assistance to manufacturing here in the USA. And now they are going after the working class trying to bust unions, they want to abolish the minimum wage, etc.

                  Either conservatives hate America, or they are just very stupid, or both.

                  • 8 votes
                  #14.5 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 5:52 PM EST

                  TruePatriot you are neither!

                  • 2 votes
                  #14.6 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 6:06 PM EST

                  Well jollyoldsoul, you could engage in a discussion of this, but instead you'd rather just trash the poster.

                  Guess that means you have nothing to counter, a tacit admission that TruePatriot must be right.

                  • 4 votes
                  #14.7 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 6:09 PM EST

                  And Jollyoldsoul1 you are simply "old" because no way are you "jolly"

                  Based on your previous posts

                    #14.8 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 9:12 PM EST
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                    Seeing as though i am registered republican for the sole purpose of voting in the primary, who should i cast my ballot for?

                    • 5 votes
                    Reply#15 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 3:16 PM EST

                    Palin.

                    • 8 votes
                    #15.1 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 3:25 PM EST

                    Bryan, the only way for the GOP to win a national presidential election would be to run a moderate.

                    The problem is the Tea Party has forced all the moderates to retire or tack to the far right, including McCain -- or for that matter throwing Blue Dog Dems under the bus too.

                    The other problem is the scrutiny candidates and their families face, though in a hypocritical way. I'll never understand how David Vitter was reelected, or possibly Enisign, or Newt Gingrich running for POTUS. Yet rising stars like Scott Brown who don't want to revisit a centerfold are likely to opt out.

                    This time senators with foreign policy experience look more attractive than governors because we are suddenly facing a new paradigm not only of a global economy and oil resources, but also uprisings due to poverty, jobs, and people wanting a voice about their future.

                    In other words, there are no Republicans in the running to fit the bill.

                    • 7 votes
                    #15.2 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 4:23 PM EST

                    "In other words, there are no Republicans in the running to fit the bill."

                    But vote for Palin anyway. She's comedy gold!

                    • 8 votes
                    #15.3 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 5:09 PM EST
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                    So the Tea Party still likes politicians who are liars, anti-science, and all about kissing up to the big corporate money interests. Their race to the bottom of the pit continues.

                    • 9 votes
                    Reply#16 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 3:34 PM EST

                    And that is different from libs sucking up to politicians that are liars, tax cheats, abortionists, and kissing up to big union bosses?

                      #16.1 - Fri Mar 4, 2011 6:37 AM EST
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                      Mike Huckabee said that President Obama was raised in Kenya and that he had a negative view of England because Obama's grandfather and father were followers of Jomo Kenyatta and the Mau Mau Revolution that unseated the Colonial Powerof the British. Later when queried about this he recanted and said he meant Indonesia and not Kenya. Yea Mike, like there are a bunch of Mau Mau in Indonesia, right. Then Huckabee said that Obama had the world view of someone who had attended a Madrases? The only thing missing here is Glen Beck's chalkboard. You would think this kind of insane talk would disqualify someone from office but with the "Tea Party" you shoot up in the polls. It looks like to me that the Republican Party is conceding the intellectual vote to the Democrats in the next election and hoping that Mr. and Mrs. Hayseed can put them over the top.

                      • 9 votes
                      Reply#17 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 3:49 PM EST

                      Huckabee also thinks alternatives to evolutionary theory, such as creationism, should be taught as science.

                      • 10 votes
                      #17.1 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 4:08 PM EST
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                      The GOP is pure as the driven snow, and conservatives are always victims of the evil libbies don’t you know?

                      Palin just came out with the complaint that the Snyder Westboro Baptist Church is allowed free speech in the public square, but good Christians are not allowed the same liberties. This is such an old lie, because everyone has the same freedom of speech as long as they aren’t breaking other laws like trespassing, damaging property, promoting violence (yelling “fire” in a crowded theater), etc. What Palin/conservatives are complaining about is losing tax exemption for preaching politics from the pulpit and block voting. Stupid Sarah—don’t think the IRS hasn’t been keeping an eye on the Snyders.

                      Which brings me to the related right to assembly and Wisconsin. Conservatives complain about protesters clogging the State Capitol. This seems benign compared to packing heat, carrying racist signs, and head stomping that we saw at Tea Party protests.

                      And the obsession with Reid and Pelosi -- Have you right-wingers forgotten your congressional leaders and the immoral behavior of Newt Gingrich or illegal activity of Tom “The Hammer” DeLay? You have, because you will vote for Newt if he runs for POTUS, won’t you?

                      Conservatives are such hypocritical cry babies. Whether complaining about health care reform being jammed down their throats (try Bush tax cuts passed with reconciliation, or Walker trying to push through his bill in only one week), or tyranny of the minority (try non-stop filibusters, blocks and holds by Republicans these last two years), and so forth.

                      You wanna cry about the use of “teabagger?” I’ll consider it if you can name a major event in our history when the right-wing was on the right side of history.

                      • 5 votes
                      Reply#18 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 4:04 PM EST

                      MSNBC doesn't have a real clue as to who will run and who can win at this point. Just dialogue to stimulate conversation and keep the wingnuts from the left to continue to vilify the GOP.

                      If memory serves me, has anyone actually stated they are running for President, other than Obama?

                      Speaking of the man with the large f lyaway ears, which Democratic Party member will challenge Obama for the party nomination? I still like the tag-team of Hill and Bill.........what does MSNBC think, and more importantly, what does the Jon Stewart show believe?

                      As Amy B., that liberal from Maine stated, many liberals have chosen to get their news from that outlet rather than other news channels. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

                        #18.1 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 4:15 PM EST

                        No one needs to vilify the GOP -- just hand them a long rope and they hang themselves.

                        The reason we have Joe Wilson shouting "You lie" at the President, The Tea Party backing candidates like "I'm not a witch" Christine O'Donnell, Deputy AG Jeff Fox supporting use of “live ammunition,” and the individual who asked Braun when they were going to shoot President Obama, and have you heard? Pinal County in Arizona wants to secede from the state and become the state of Baja.

                        Back in the day of William F. Buckley the crazies like the John Birch Society were quickly dismissed as fringe loons. Now the leaders of the GOP are the fringe loons, and the crazies are going to keep coming out of the woodwork. The right-wing has gone so far to the right, they’re over the edge.

                        Aside from the GOP leadership being everything from cheerleaders to vague remarks like “I’ll take the President’s word” regarding citizenship, to deafening silence per the 11th Commandment when conservatives know in their dark little hearts they are in the wrong (like they are right now in Wisconsin)…

                        BTW -- The reason FOX has higher ratings then other outlets is because unlike the right-wing who tune into FOX exclusively, progressives get their information from a range of sources -- CNN, PBS, MSNBC, and finish the day with a good laugh from Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert.

                        • 7 votes
                        #18.2 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 4:32 PM EST

                        Jon Stewart has more credibility than Fox News.

                        • 11 votes
                        #18.3 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 4:51 PM EST
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                        Many of you have short memories. Fortunes change VERY quickly in this country and this is a good example. This happened in 2008.

                        The Democratic Party, which won a majority of seats in the 2006 election, expanded its control in 2008. The Republican Party, hoping to regain the majority it lost in the 2006 or at least expand its congressional membership, lost additional seats

                        Republicans gained five Democratic seats total, while losing 26 Republican seats, giving the Democrats a net gain of 21

                        Of the seats up for election in 2008, 23 were held by Republicans and 12 by Democrats. At the start of the 111th Congress, the Democrats held 56 seats in the Senate, with the two independents continuing to caucus with the Democrats for a total of 58. For the second consecutive election cycle, no incumbent Democratic senators lost their seats

                        You guys should positively NOT get too smug about the past election. What you are doing in WI is going to motivate the base like nothing you have seen in years. Probably increase union membership (I'm not a union guy.. just sayin').

                        • 7 votes
                        Reply#19 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 4:10 PM EST

                        If the Tea Party gains anymore cloute and one of their members should happen to win The Department of Education would have it's funds severly cut as would the IRS be infiltrated with Huckabee sappers that would gather tax refund information on American's to extort them with.

                        Recently I had my W2's stolen with all of the excuses being given from those to whom I questioned of being that I sent them in the mail or that I had misplaced them. How does one send W2's through the mail when I filed electronically, you don't send your W2's in the mail when you file electronically. I then thought well maybe I did misplace them so I went through every single folder that was in the filing cabinet but still could not find them. I know that I didn't throw them away as I had put them in a folder. When I went to look for them to redo my taxes because of simple wrong number there was only one W2 remaining that I found outside of the envelope that I had put them in.

                        Now why someone want my W2's? Extortion. Extortion to force me to follow a single point of view based on the degeneracy of those behind the extortion. They know exactly who they are as well. I can also say that another reason is that when tax season comes next year the person who stole the tax documents will probably use them to file false tax returns so that the service will not be available thus forcing me to use a family tax provider so that the family tax provider can take $400 off the top of the return for his services provided where the fee will be split up between the family tax provider and the person who stole the W2's.

                        Another one of Huckebee Tea Party/Koch Brother's attempt's to extort American's to vote for who these Communist back bastards want a person to vote for.

                        So what was that about knowing everything about me? The person ins question is also someone who thinks that everyone in the family should live their life in certain personality frame based upon who they choose for your to be like. Another trace of Communism? I think so.

                        Just say no to the Tea Party and everyone that supports them.

                        What's going to be stolen this week? Maybe the DVR remote control? Maybe perhaps some of my ATM cards so that I will be forced to spend money (of which goes back to big oil) to replace the ATM cards along with forcing to pay a $10 fee to have the ATM card replaced.

                        While working at Koch Knight my ATM card had to be replaced five times in a four month period. Since then I was let go because of a female, a nasty one at that, placing her hands on me and saying that "If it had bothered me that she was touching me I should have said something." Sexual predator.

                        Basically Koch Knight are the mentality of "Let me do what I want to you, don't tell anyone and you'll get to keep your job." "Do what I say without having your own opinion because you are a temporary and I am a regular employee and you get to keep your job." "Live life in the moment and be like the rest of us and take bits and pieces from movies to use as your managerial style and you can be keep your job."

                        Go against us and live your life like an American based upon the Constitution of the United States of America and you are fired.

                        Koch Knight in East Canton is a haven for sociopath's sexual predator's and communist's.

                        • 2 votes
                        Reply#20 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 4:11 PM EST

                        One additional comment. PALEEEEEZE do your research on the Huckster before you pronounce him the messiah. For all you tea baggers who claim to want small govt, lower taxes, etc... The Huck did NEITHER when he was in our state. He expanded our state govt employee numbers more than ANY previous governor. There are many other problems with his ethics, etc (was investigated numerous times and even reprimanded). Just look at everything. While I'm not a Repub, I'm just SURE you can find a better candidate.

                        • 5 votes
                        Reply#21 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 4:12 PM EST

                        Hickabee parolled a convicted felon who went to the Northwest and killed again. Way to go, Mikeabee !

                        • 3 votes
                        #21.1 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 4:57 PM EST
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                        The Republicans are desperate instead of pulling straws......they're pulling strays.

                        • 4 votes
                        Reply#22 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 4:25 PM EST

                        I saw a similar analogy on another board...it would be funny if it wasn't so frightening. "There is a plate of 12 cookies in front of The Koch Brothers, a tea partier, and a middle class American. The Kochs gobble down 11 cookies and then look over at the tea partier and say "hey the middle class guy is taking your cookie".

                        I'll add that, next the Tea Partier grabs the last cookie and gives it to their masters, the Koch Brothers...and everyone else goes hungry.

                        • 5 votes
                        Reply#23 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 4:29 PM EST

                        The teabaggers themselves wear teabags attached to and hanging from their hats. Now that you mention it, they do look both vile and foul.

                        • 1 vote
                        Reply#24 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 4:50 PM EST

                        Just a passing thought about the hats with the dangling tea bags: what happens when it rains?

                          #24.1 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 9:47 PM EST
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                          dont get your hopes to high actually the tea party is just the new name for the republican party

                          same ol elephant, just a new and improved name

                          • 3 votes
                          Reply#25 - Thu Mar 3, 2011 4:52 PM EST
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