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House and Senate leaders may have cooperated to avoid a government shutdown in the short term, but the cooperative spirit between the chambers’ top lawmakers didn’t have much of a cozy afterglow.
Shortly before a Senate vote on a two-week compromise bill to keep the government’s lights on, House Speaker John Boehner and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid exchanged digs over a longer-term spending measure.
“I'm not sure whether Senator Reid has a plan to cut spending and keep the government running,” Boehner said at a meeting of the Credit Union National Association on Wednesday morning. “If he does, I think the American people would be interested in seeing it. If he doesn't, I think he owes the American people an explanation."
Last month, the House passed legislation to fund the government through the end of the fiscal year and make $61 billion in cuts to federal funding. The Senate has yet to act on that legislation or propose an alternative long-term spending bill.
A Reid spokesman fired back at Boehner's remarks. “That's tough talk from someone who is being bossed around by a bunch of freshman,” said spokesman Jon Summers, referring to the pressure some new Tea Party-affiliated House members have applied on their leadership to deepen the spending cuts even further.“It's surprising that the Speaker of the House is unaware that the Senate is voting on a bill to fund the government and cut spending this morning."
The two-week measure is expected to breeze to passage in the Senate this morning. It passed the House yesterday in a bipartisan vote that won the approval of over 100 Democrats and all but six Republicans.
*** UPDATE *** The Senate passed the short-term spending bill Wednesday morning by an overwhelming vote of 91-9. Voting no were four senators who caucus with Democrats (Sens. Tom Harkin, Patty Murray, Carl Levin, and Bernie Sanders) and five Republicans (Orrin Hatch, Rand Paul, Mike Lee, Mike Crapo, and Jim Risch.)
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Speaker Boehner, since you ran on a platform of Jobs (apparently cutting not adding), we americans say YOU have some explaining to do.
Don't you have to have some b@lls in order to be 'testy'?
Clearly leaves out Weeper Boehner...
Hiya Feisty
Don't you have to have some b@lls in order to be 'testy'?
Clearly leaves out Weeper Boehner...
But, you can't negate he is a as drunk as a skunk weeper. Skunks don't b@lls. Dunno?
Hey, Harry- don't make 'im cry, now, hear?
Feisty - Oh My God. i laughed so hard the guy in the office across from me stuck his head in. Thanks!
Looky here we got Feisty, Bev, Drive By and Bryan all united in poking fun at Boehner. What a surprise.
Ok guys, I take it you think Reid has the upper hand?
But really, how do the four of you think the budget issue and cuts are playing out so far? You think in a broad sense this is a winning issue for the Dems?
Come On Drive By - I know you relish the chance to respond and show us all you have really thought these very important issues all the way through. But you are going to have to give us something more than a one sentence, witty jab. Hit us with substance. I know you can do it. Or you can do like yesterday and call me names. That really highlights your intellect.
Feisty I expect more personal attacks, and I of course look forward to some MoveOn cut and pastes from Bev. Guess that pretty much leaves you Bryan to do the heavy lifting.
This here ladies and Gentlemen is the Liberal Mentality..
Bryan E., PA
Feisty - Oh My God. i laughed so hard the guy in the office across from me stuck his head in. Thanks!
#2.3 - Wed Mar 2, 2011 8:41 AM PST
They seem to think its ok to spend there Time on Newsvine while working for someone else. Such a great Use of your Employers Resources..............This is the problem with Liberals. I guess i am Assuming here. Perhaps its his Employer that is Paying him to post here on Newsvine.. but i doubt it...
Nope, according to my pal Drive By, his employer is fully aware and condones all of his posting adventures.
That is one cool boss. Cause if it's not true and his boss is unaware, or has not given explicit permission, Drive By's stealing. And I think most Libbies think stealing is bad.
Is that right Bev., is stealing bad? Was it bad when the hackers shut down the conservative website? How about those Wisconsin Dems - they are still "earning" a paycheck, yet they are not at work. Kind of stealing, no? Maybe they are taking a "vacation?" Except the labor board might not look favorably on that description.
You're welcome Bryan! ;o)
No one could be further from 'testy' than an emotionally inbalanced, orange, drunk!
Steve,
Still no arguement relevant to today's topics? Still early or did you actually lose sleep last night thinking how the loss of 700,000 american jobs would actually affect the economy, not to mention the lives and families of those who lost their jobs. You can point fongers and insult all you want. That @!$%# may have worked for you in the school yard, but schools out buddy.
Golly Bryan, shall we assume you cannot answer the questions posed? All righty then.
And Bryan, people currently relying on the gvernment tit will necessarily be laid off, have their positions elimated, and will have to seek employment elsewhere. It's just the way it is.
Kind of like government waste is just the way it is. $200 billion identified just yesterday in redundancy. A large part of that are redundant jobs. It's kind of like here in San Diego - we got SDPD, Sherriff, Harbor Police, Home land security, ATF, ICE. We got an Airport authority, Harbor district, several municipalities - and all have their own law enforcement, legal branches and a butt load of administration.
Bryan we will be shedding millions of jobs - from the government. It's just a fact. If you rely on the tit, these are going to be rough times.
$14 TRILLION has consequences. $1.65 TRILLION has consequences.
So we are not in a school yard, I'd love to hear what you have to say about it. Or we could ffollow Feisty's lead and talk about being "orange" "drunk" or "ball-less." Your choice my man.
Feisty,
Boehner said something to the effect that broke companies don't create jobs, neither do broke countries.
Have the intelligence to argue something relevent, something he actually said about the big issue - the topic of the thread?
Of course not, hence the little chihuahua ad hominen ankle nips.
Spanky, when asked a question directly, i would answer. I do not answer questions asked of others. Glad i could clear that up for you.
Why spankster, must the sacrifice be at the expense of the poorest in our country? Why not look at the many layers of military subcontracts the defraud the government of funds on a daily basis? You seem hell bent on destroying public and social services but will not for ONE second look to defense spending? Was it wrong of Bush to keep the cost of the wars OFF the books or was it wrong of Obama to put the cost of the wars ON the books?
Don't pretend for a second Spanky that you have even a notion of what's right for this nation or this economy. All of the hot air you dispell amounts to just that. And frankly with lax envirnmental regulations, i don't think the world can spare the oxygen you consume and the carbon dioxide you emit as a result.
They sure come out in droves to protect the Speaker aka the Man from Chicken Crap!
Why don't you go back to Fox to hang out with like mind dittobots.
OMG, is English your second language or are you "drunk as a skunk"
Funny thing about the fact that this is an anonymous site. You have no idea about me or what my position on the military or the costs of war are, correct? Stop speculating, it just make you look silly.
Brother waste is waste. The government can do nothing effeciently or competively. That applies most particularly to to social programs and the military. Got it?
So Bryan - you say you answer questions asked directly but not directed to others. But that's simply false now isn't it? I asked you several questions in this very thread, directly. You also responded to a question I asked Bev. below.
But keep it up. The morning is flying by.
It's funny how some Republicans scold the less fortunate for what they call liveing off the teet of the Government. Sense i and many hear are largely the ones who pay for our government, I would rather my money help people less fortunate than me, than have it go to some banker on wall street!!!!
Hey, Bryan..
I have answered the Question about that many Times. I want 700,000 Union jobs Gone. and i dont apologize for my Position.
but hey .. Keep Stealing from your Boss. its exactly your mentality You think your job is to hop on Newsvine while at your Place of Employment Zero REsponsiblity to actually do the Job you were Hired to do. You must be a Union worker.
and Clearly Brian . I didnt insult you I pointed out a FACT.. Your mentality is that you have the Right to be On Newsvine while you are at your Place of Employment. Is that True. well you are here. So it must be..
Darryl,
Then call Obama and Bernanke, where do you think the QE2 $600 billion is going?
Darryl - its tax time dude - you are free to pay in as much as you want. Man up and do not claim any exemptions or deductions. Pay based upon gross income.
The less fortunate need your coin. It is the right thing to do.
Or how about no bailout for anyone any time?
Spanky - my mistake, i didn't see your questions to the four of us.
Of course not. But neither do the House Republicans. You see this is the difficult part of a Republican House and Democratic Senate and White House. Compromise, or common ground whatever you wish to call it, is a must.
I don't think the spending cuts are going to be held favorable for either party. Look at what's happening in Madison, Wi. Do you think Governor Walker could have taken a different approach and yeilded the same results? Of course, but his decisions, largely unpopular, will yield results. They just may be results that land him on the unemployment line next election cycle.
And whether you like it or not Spanky, the republicans ran on a jobs platform. They neglected to inform the voters taht it was a job ELIMINATION platform. Got it? You can say waste is waste. I get that too. But where families and lives are involved, we should not be so swift with the axe unless we know it's the right decision for the greater good.
Gov. does not creat anything. It collects and distributes the taxpayer's earnings. Life is hard, and times are tough. $14 Trillion. Cold hard facts.
Oh, and debt service on that is a total bitch, but also a fact.
Who increases the money supply? Isn't that a government function? Quasi-government Federal Reserve Bank? Treasury?
If government doesn't create jobs, someone should inform the republicans. They are of the belief that they were sent to Congress to create jobs in this country.
And are we serious about debt when we are looking to cut $61 billion of spending from a 1.x trillion dollar budget? How do we increase revenues to help offset the deficit? Cutting taxes isn't the answer. Tax breaks/cuts in my opinion are opportunity cost. Revenue forgone, with no promise of jobs from industry.
The issue is beyond spending cuts. We need more revenue.
What Bryan means when he says. Taxes are Revenue lost is that its Money that can be spent on UNION JOBS to keep UNION workers bilking the TAXPAYERS out of More MONEY The Best way to keep Unions working is to keep Taxing People more...........
its always there answer. keep me working by Taking more of other peoples Money...
Steve - get out of my head!! Seriously though, when i say tax cuts are revenue forgone i mean tax cuts are revenue forgone. That means before we give a tax cuts we make x amount in revenue. We give a tax cut of Y. We end up with revenue of X - Y = Z. That's it. No voodo math. Simple economics. We forgoe Y in hopes that jobs will be created. And they are not. That's all.
Bryan..
I dont want to pay more Taxes. and neither do most Americans. Again. you are Free to give all your money you get from your Job. to the Govt. While allowing your Wife who is a Unon Teacher to Support you and her....... Man up. if you want to pay more Taxes Feel Free. do it...
I mean After all . You post on Newsvine While you are Stealing from your Employer when you should be doing the Work he Hired you to do.. So really you haven't earned the money he is Paying you . Man up. Give it to the Govt...... so your Wife can get more...
I'm not suggesting that you or i pay more taxes, steve. I am saying that we can't afford to continue to pay less. Do you get the difference? No? Oh well, shame on me for expecting you to understand or even support basic economic theory and principles. You can't reduce revenue at a rate greater than you spend those revenues, now can you?
And are you now in my place of work telling me my work is not getting done? How do you know that? Or are you just assuming? You missed my post below where i courteously explained to Spanky that i indeed sign and adhere to acceptable use policies. But that shouldn't concern you now should it? Should i make a leap and assume you are self-employed and are posting here on your dime?
And if paying more taxes means i can help a fellow human being put food on the table, then sure i'd do it ten times over. Unlike you, who only seems to care about what's in it for you. Selfishness, not your best trait steve.
Are we still gutting environmental protections in this stop-gap spending bill? Or did the Senate strip that out of the discussion?
Paul-977599
Are we still gutting environmental protections in this stop-gap spending bill? Or did the Senate strip that out of the discussion?
As long as the polluting Koch Brothers demand it; I'd say yes.
Ok Bev., name on think Obama has done to reduce energy costs for consumers.
What does Media Matters have to say?
Spank Monkey,
What does that have to do with the question asked? Fishing huh?
Bryan, did you read Bev.'s comment? Seemed directly relevant to that comment, which was related to Pollution, and we know that Kock's are in energy - cause after all in libbie land isn't the poduction of all energy from traditional (non-green) sources a source of gross pollution of dire consequences?
Say how much you paying at the pump these days?
What's the matter, you don't like the question? Political discourse necessarily involves inquiry into opinions and positions, no?
Spanky, in case you were unable to scroll up, this was the question. Please try to answer that instead of spouting your foul mouth off about the president. We all get that you question his legitamacy like the rest of the republicants. Where were you during the last administration when PRIVATE SECTOR jobs were disappearing at a rate of over 650,000 a month? Let me guess that was in anticipation of Obama becoming president right?
Obama is legitimate, just bad. Big difference, right?
You do get the corrolation between enviromental policies and energy costs right? Take a look at AB 32 out here in Cali. Disasterous.
As for 2000-2008, I was generally prosering along with the rest of the economy. How about you - were you, like most, better off in say 2005 than now?
Actually, i can say i'm better off now that i was in 2005. Being private sector and non-unionized, and also working for a very properous company, i'd say i'm much better off than most. Throw in there a first time home purchase, and having my first child, yes. i am definitively better off today than i was in 2005.
And it is unfortunate that you live in CA. I understand you've seen your share of crooks in the capitol there.
GUT the federal budget people! Just gut it before the USA ends up bankrupt.
You know what the sad part is? By the time they figure out the fiscal 2011 budget, they are going to have to start working on the fiscal 2012 budget. This whole circus will be played out again. Yippee!!!
No, unless something is done the sad thing is the debt will be $15.65 Trillion next year.
I think the really sad part is that we have to listen to the drivel of Spank-His-Monkey, Steve-O, and the like that troll here looking to push buttons and not discuss emerging topics in a more adult and non-schoolyard bully fashion.
That's funny Bryan because it looks to me like you seek to avoid the very topic we are discussing, which is the debt, and how it is being addressed.
But do tell - how do you engage in political discourse? Shall we all simply state our positions then move on? No one gets to pose a question to challenge an assumption, basis, or position?
So tell me, what do you think this article is about? Feisty seems to think its about Orangeness, and testicles. Is that what you seek to discuss? Great.
Damn you're a 'fast' learner Bryan!
It's all a game of disraction with them...
Do NOT feed the trolls! ;o)
Well Feisty, since i'm stealing from someone apparently, i feel compelled to defend myself. Without being defensive of course.
Political Discourse, is that what you call your brand of strong arm "sucking the government tit" debate? Real adult just like your screenname "Spanky".
Bryan are you posting at work? You know, unless you work with Drive By, your employer may not be too pleased with that.
And I don't know about your boss, but I get monthly reports on internet activity for all the work stations at my office. Cause virus are very costly and this equipment was expensive. But then again so are fixed employee costs, right? In other words - the MAN probably is aware.
But hey I'm sure you cleared it with him, so your good, right. Stealing company time is bad, afterall.
So Bryan, how would you classify what the folks in Bell, Ca. were doing? Cause if calling it sucking the public tit offends you we can use different terms. What you got?
Spanky, you need not worry about my employer. I sign and adhere to policies in my current position and have for the last 12 years. So get off that train. Here we treat internet access a little differently. Which leads me to this question: If you are the police, who is policing you oh great sir? You play Big Brother with your employees, but who is watching your time?
Oh yeah. And I would be the guy who produces those reports for you Spanky. And no i do not try and circumvent the system. Nice try though.
Great question. My clients and the bottom line "police" me. Thanks for asking.
What you do with you work time is between you and your employer. And you bet I "play Big Brother." That's the job, it's my name on the door.
'Spankies'?
Wasn't that the name of the lesbian bondage club the RNC is so fond of?
Aww dam I accidentally liked the foolish big brother kid, don't you have a waterboard session or some illegal immigrants to go hunt, you gotta do your part to make America strong again after all those pesky communist liberals have ruined this country... LMAO
I hear Repubs talk constantly about wanting to reduce the size of government. Seems they're only talking about the executive. What about the other branches? I wouldn't mind seeing the size of the House of Representatives shrink by 25%. 90 fewer congresspersons means 90 fewer opportunities for pork barrel spending. Along the same lines, do we really need 9 Supreme Court justices. Couldn't 7 work?
I realize that the undertaking would be contentious; but, anyone have any thoughts?
We need more Justices on SCOTUS, not fewer. Why are we so quick to be penny wise and pound foolish?
Did the Pentagon ever locate the $2 TRILLION that Rumsfeld told us was missing on 9/10/2001?
I've often wondered why wage cuts for Senators/Congressmen/SCOTUS/POTUS are never on the table. In Montana, Brian Schweitzer gave himself an 11,000 dollar a year pay cut BEFORE he went to legislature and the unions to help work out a balanced budget for their state. And they now have a $320 million + surplus.
What another fiscally responsible Democrat? What is the world coming too? Brian Schweitzer he walks the walk. Unlike those barrow and spend Republicans. Actions speak loader than words.
Nice post Bryan.
Thanks Devie.
Truly big words coming from Boehner. I thought the midterm results meant that the republicans/Teaparty were getting their opportunity to explain their ideas more thoroughly. It would seem only logical since they blocked every piece legislation for the last two years but it appears that they would like nothing more than to continue to blame the other side. Where are your grand plans to put the American economy back on the road to recovery? While spending does need to be cut please tell me that wasn't your only idea....if so it may be a while before anyone really takes you seriously. Continue the tax cuts and cut spending....Is this it? Oh and if cutting spending means eliminating even more jobs (which it does) then what will you do to help create more jobs to not only replace the ones that will be lost but the ones that were already absent? I am tired of all the B.S. it is time for results from both sides.
There seems to be something conspicuously missing from all the austerity discussion, what are corporate America and the top 2% of this country going to pitch in? The very people who squandered the nation's wealth apparently don't want to be inconvenienced with the whole mess; they should be forced to participate also, by whatever means is required.
The top 2% will never kick in. As a matter of fact they aren't even aware that we're having problems "down here". They have been above these types of problems for so long, there would have to literally be folks lying in the streets and buildings burning before they ask their driver to tell them what's going on. The corporations are enjoying this way too much; they aren't going to miss out on this opportunity to enrich the shareholders and the execs. They have a workforce (one of the most expense line items in their budgets) completely under their thumb. That workforce is being underpaid (no raises, no awards, no bonuses, paying larger shares of their healthcare costs, etc.), overworked (on call 24/7), and not exactly in a position to be without a job (can't/won't leave to seek better working conditions or pay). And the corporations will press that advantage to the fullist and continue to rack in record profits.
Boehner always sounds drunk and Reid is to soft spoken to come off a tough! If I need to get the right picture of what is going on I look at the second in command for both. These two, Boehner and Reid, are bad representatives of our government at work. Obama looks like the sober adult every time.
It was proven by FDR that we have to spend money within our country for growth. So, where do you cut spending? To listen to the right it is social programs and education cuts. We have the super rich and the dirt poor, with the middle class being pushed to the category of the dirt poor and well the rich get richer, with their perks and level low taxes they pay.
I say no cuts in the budget that affect the poor, middle class and peoples health. If you cut these programs now, we will pay later.
However, tax big oil and raise taxes on the top 2% and cut out some of the billions we spend in defense for Halliburton and weapons to blow things up.
Where are the jobs Bohner?
you know it really pisses me off the way the media has selectively forgotten that the Republicans ran on creating jobs, now you hear nothing from the press except the latest plan to beat the poor and middle class out of what they have coming, what a total disaster this country has become for all but the wealthy, the people have no champion in D.C. The Congress is nothing more than a tool used by the wealthy to suck the life out of the masses and it will remain that way until the people absolutely revolt and take over.
When will the "Weeper" provides some data on the number of jobs, the republicans have created. Jobs, the lack of, is the reason they got elected, it will be the reason why they get defeated. They promised jobs, Where are the jobs Bonehead? What I do know, their tax cuts, have added another trillion dollars to our debt. Not one job has been produced. Where are the jobs bonehead? This is what our Chicken---- media should be asking.
nadeem, according to Obama's saved or created jobs calculator, Boehner has already saved or created about 500,000 jobs. And it will get better since we are approaching a summer of recovery.
????? What legislation has the New Speaker passed through the house and made it to the President's desk for signing which has helped create any jobs? And please document the jobs created by Boehner alone.
OK, my question is, if we can save $4 billion in 2 weeks, why can't we save $100 billion over a year ? Just take the EXACT SAME SPENDING that has been approved, and expand it to 52 weeks, then we're done. What is so hard about that ?
Oh, yeah, it doesn't cut enough from programs which support women, children, the poor, minorities and give more money to the wealthy. Got it.
redundancy , why do we need 17 security agencys? congress has given money to many of their pet projects that they oversee personally and are not about to give up power on. that needs to all go away. the miltary budget is over 700 billion with how many bases overseas that are not vital. can we spend the money here instead of keeping england safe from who? yet no one is even discussing that huge waste of money?
Steve - get out of my head!! Seriously though, when i say tax cuts are revenue forgone i mean tax cuts are revenue forgone. That means before we give a tax cuts we make x amount in revenue. We give a tax cut of Y. We end up with revenue of X - Y = Z. That's it. No voodo math. Simple economics. We forgoe Y in hopes that jobs will be created. And they are not. That's all.
And Steve, not all unions "bilk" taxpayers. That is simply untrue.
@Bryan: I'm sure Steve (and other's of similar opinion) believe is that all of the PUBLIC sector employee unions bilk the taxpayers. The private sector one's just take the money from the employers. The employees (who have chosen them as their representative) don't have a thing to to with it. Kind of like if you are good enough to require an agent. For union workers, the agent is the union representative. For people like Charlie Sheen, the agent just jumped off a cliff. For public sector employees, the agent is Lucifer. :)