The AP’s lead on the prank call: “On a prank call that quickly spread across the Internet, Governor Scott Walker of Wisconsin was duped into discussing his strategy to cripple public employee unions, promising never to give in and joking that he would use a baseball bat in his office to go after political opponents.”
The call dominated the Wisconsin newspaper front pages. The Wisconsin State Journal: “Walker: Prank won’t distract me.”
The Journal Sentinel below a banner headline of “In it for the long haul” is “Prank call lets nation hear Walker’s plans.”
The Green Bay Press-Gazette: “Walker talks tactics on prank phone call.”
The Manitowoc Herald Times Reporter: “Walker tricked in prank call to discuss unions.”
Time's Joe Klein writes, "I think Scott Walker is a reflexive conservative who would probably be trying to bust his public employees' unions even if there were a budget surplus."
The Hill: “Democratic strategists believe their Tea Party moment has arrived. Working with labor unions and liberal groups, they are using the Presidents Day congressional recess to organize a public backlash against billions of dollars in cuts to federal programs.”


How low can a Republican/Tea Bagger governor go?
Beverly, hang on to your hat, I think they can go lower than this. I hope not but that is the way I feel.
Hide and watch, Beverly. Hide and watch.
It was fun to listen to Hannity's radio show yesterday, though. No mention of this prank deal, but he did manage to work in "teleprompter"! Ha Ha Ha Ha
There is no limit on how low they can go.
Wow, the Cut & Paste Queen opens in the morning with a simple, one line negative statement? The good libbie stuff that opens must be on another page.....
The answer Bev, is not a low as your President Barry.
These Republican PUNKS can't hold a candle to President Obama.
Well, at least they haven't gone so low as to just simply run away...
That's pretty pathetic in itself.
You got that right Brutus, Republicans "man-up" to the issues, no matter if they have the opportunity to win the issue or not. If the tables were turned, and the Republicans rand and hid, imagine the comments from the liberal media.....now, the running-part members are treated as honorable figures.
I am certain that in our state, Daryl Steinberg and the balance of the Spending Party of CA may consider such a strategy if they ever lost control of state government.
MORON
HAHAAAAAAA!!! LMAO!!! Pimped would be a better term.
Walker says he has said the same thing in public but I have never heard him speak of using a baseball bat, trying to deceive the people of WI., selling the public power plants in a no bid deal, bring people in to incite riots, try to trick the Senators into coming back in state, and breaking state laws. I think Walker is better suited to be in the Mexican Mafia than Governor of the great State Of Wisconsin.
He didn't speak of using a baseball bat. The asshat that faked the call made a comment about using a baseball bat, Walker joked back about having one in his office, a Louisville slugger with his name on it. No talk of use, the only reference was in response to an attempt to bate him. Perhaps in Seattle you're not getting all the news but in reading the transcript, there is not ONE thing about his plan that Walker talked about that wasn't already all over the local news.
Before the MSM decides to lionize the guy who pranked Governor Walker, maybe they should read this.
Murphy's last great brush with fame was when he wrote this piece, tastefully headlined, "F***k the Troops.
So, 4000 rubes are dead. Cry me the Tigris. Another 30,000 have been seriously wounded. Boo f****g hoo. They got what they asked for—and cool robotic limbs, too.
Likely, just reading the above paragraph made you uncomfortable. But why?
The benevolence of America’s “troops” is sacrosanct. Questioning their rectitude simply isn’t done. It’s the forbidden zone. We may rail against this tragic war, but our soldiers are lauded by all as saints. Why? They volunteered to partake in this savage idiocy, and for this they deserve our utmost respect? I think not.
The nearly two-thirds of us who know this war is bullshi! need to stop sucking off the troops. They get enough action raping female soldiers and sodomizing Iraqi detainees. ....
The guy is a hater... and a complete jerk... going way back.
Walker needs to step down or start IMPEACHMENT ! He has disgraced the office and the oath he took ! He is a puppet for the KOCH IND ! They control him with bribes just like all the other republicans ! He needs to leave THIS MORNING !!!!
Recall Walker now!!
And don;t forget to include Barry in the recall mix.
safecracker. You want to recall Barry Manilow? Go for it.
Hey "Please Insult me", how about I attempt to educate you instead of discussing your lack of intellect in an honest but insulting manner, as your post name requests. Barack's name on his birth certificate is and always has been Barack. Yes he went by Barry in HS, a nick name, and I believe at the beginning of his first year of college before returning to his birth name. My nephew is named John, but none of his friends know that because he goes by his nick name "Jack". So what's your point PIM?
And all those suggesting the President be recalled in response to suggestion that the slime ball Governor of WI be recalled, not only are you displaying your ignorance of the law, (there is no such legal avenue to recall a federally elected office holder) but you're also ignoring the fact that despite all the far rights efforts to discredit the President the majority of Americans support him. And when Sen Thune announced this week he would not run for President, he honestly admitted it was because he doesn't think President Obama can be beat. So deal with it right wingers, the majority of Americans are smarter than you think, and aren't buying the nonsense your selling!
Obama-Biden 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PIM--yawn
I don't think you made a big impact Hawkeye. But I'm with you.
did I? Sorry Steve...yet still truel
Walker is bought and paid for by the Koch Brothers. Thank God for the internet and and bloggers like Ian Murph, otherwise we would never find out about stuff like this.
Thank god for Ian Murph, he is a pig.
Before the MSM decides to lionize the guy who pranked Governor Walker, maybe they should read this.
Murphy's last great brush with fame was when he wrote this piece, tastefully headlined, "F***k the Troops.
So, 4000 rubes are dead. Cry me the Tigris. Another 30,000 have been seriously wounded. Boo f***g hoo. They got what they asked for—and cool robotic limbs, too.
Likely, just reading the above paragraph made you uncomfortable. But why?
The benevolence of America’s “troops” is sacrosanct. Questioning their rectitude simply isn’t done. It’s the forbidden zone. We may rail against this tragic war, but our soldiers are lauded by all as saints. Why? They volunteered to partake in this savage idiocy, and for this they deserve our utmost respect? I think not.
The nearly two-thirds of us who know this war is bull@!$%# need to stop sucking off the troops. They get enough action raping female soldiers and sodomizing Iraqi detainees. ....
The guy is a hater... and a complete jerk... going way back.
Chuck really loves to say "left leaning" when he talks about progressives on his show.
Love Chuck Todd!
Was it After You Gave Tax Cuts to the Rich
When did Wisconsin Republican Governor Scott Walker decide to force the Middle Working Class to pay for the TAX BREAKS he gave to the Rich, was it before or after Billionaires Funded his Campaign?
Ask the Media to tell the REAL STORY
When did Wisconsin Budget Crisis become a Crisis, was it before or after Republican Governor Scott Walker gave TAX BREAKS to the RICH?
When was the State of Wisconsin, projected to receive a Surplus, was it before or after the Republican, Governor Scott Walker gave TAX BREAKS to the RICH?
When did Wisconsin Two Year Budget find itself with a “Severe Deficit” was it before or after the Republican Governor, Scott Walker gave TAX BREAKS to the Rich?
When did Wisconsin Legislatures decide to pass a Budget Repair Bill was it before or after Republican Governor Scott Walker gave TAX BREAKS to the Rich?
When did Wisconsin Republican Governor Scott Walker manufacture a Budget Repair Bill, was it before or after the TAX BREAKS for the Rich still wasn’t enough to cause a short fall?
When did Wisconsin's Republican Governor Scott Walker create a Two Year $3 Billion Deficit Budget Projection, was it before or after, he not only gave TAX BREAKS to the Rich but by also introducing Bills that had nothing to do with creating JOBS?
When did Wisconsin Republican Governor Scott Walker decide to go after the Unions, was it before he campaigned but was advised by the Koch Brother to wait until he was elected or was it after he campaigned or both?
When did Wisconsin's Republican Governor Scott Walker decide to BUST the Unions; was it before or after, he gave TAX CUTS to the Rich which cause Wisconsin's State Budget to go from a Projected Surplus to a Deficit, which opened the door for the Republican Governor to manufacture a Short Fall, which opened the door for a manufactured Budget Repair Bill which opened the door for the Republican Governor to place into the Phantom "Budget Repair Bill" a provision that would dismantle the UNIONS, which he is now having trouble manufacturing a reason on how State Employee's Bargaining Rights will "REPAIR" the Deficit, that he created in order to create a CRISIS.
On a Sidebar Note:
On Saturday, CNN Ground Reporter gave the subliminal false equivalency of the Bused in Tea Party Protesters equaling the amount of the Wisconsin Protesters, when the amount was no way hell, equal; and on Sunday Morning, MSNBC Ground Reporter attempted to report the same.
Front Page the Story Don't Give False Equivalency to the Facts
Ed Shultz, TPM and Mother Joness, have been on the job from the very beginning, and since then, other Media Outlets have been playing catch up. A movement to save the Middle Class has been spreading so quickly, that some Pundits, Politicians and Media are stumbling to put together their Talking Points, Manufactured Lies and Fake Outrage.
Dear Republicans please listen. If you are true conservatives you should hate this bill Walker has presented. It gives the power to him to sell off your assets without bids. Why would he want that power? To payoff the Koch Brothers for investing in him. It also gives him the power to award contracts without bids. Why would he want that power? Again, to payoff the Koch Brothers and other corporations for investing in him. Wake up people of Wisconsin and impeach him. You have the ethics violation evidence now. Otherwise the middle class, both Democrat and Republican, will be working in sweatshop on Sunday for the Koch Brothers.
OK AnaBanana,
How will a WI Governor have the power to sell off my assets without bids when I reside in CA?
Question 2: Your fixation with the Koch Bros - show me where and why the payoff is. Show me the money trail!
If there is actual ethic violations involved, have him investigated with the proper charges implemented.
Safecracker,
My posts are not all directed at you safecraker. Sorry if I gave you that impression. However since you mention it, I suggest you pick up a book and start reading. If our great great grand parents were around they would warn us of what will become 1900 again, if the imfamous Koch Brothers get no bid contracts and steal money and assets from the middle class. If you don't think a family like the Koch's has that type of power in government, think again. Yes an investigation will be conducted in Wisconsin. A state with some of the toughest ethics laws governing lawmakers. By 2012 the money trail for 2010 will be evident and you won't like the results. Or maybe you will.
Safe cracker, it won't affect cali, but as of last night, a former AG in Wisconsin started looking into ethics violations of Mr. Walker.
For all the talk from Republicans about the Constitution:
The Gop led House of Reps from day 1 were fixated on Womens reproductive organs!
From day 1, Republicans across the Country are trying to silence 1st amendment rights!
This is No Coincidence:
Where are the Jobs they campaigned on?
Jobs?????Ask President Barry. He and the Democratic/RP's have been in control of the government for some time now.
Perhaps the White House can answer your question.
As for femal reproductive organ queries, contact billy bob clinton.
1st amendment rights - and President Barry hasn't been involved with controlling the content of the ingternet?
And the WI Democratic/RP strategy is sound? Honorable? Wait until the next election cycle or recall then answer that question.
Safecraker use spell check!
I was at the rally and the Tea Party numbers were a joke.
We outnumbered the Tea Party 10-1. After an hour, the Tea Party realized it was a wasted effort and headed for their buses.
I love how all the anti-union right-wingers at this site are in denial over the implications of what Walker had to say during this phone call. They are spinning this as: “it’s not news worthy” or “A majority of Americans do not support unions” or “how do we know its really Walker”…….Well guys, as they say, denial is not a river in Egypt and the implications of Walker’s words is a “game changer” in this debate.
First of all, this story is very news worthy as Walker proves with his own words that this was never about a WI state budget crisis and that the plan all along was about taking collective bargaining rights away from unions.
Secondly, to state that a majority of Americans do not support unions, is either a bold face lie or an indication of total ignorance. Several recent polls prove that Americans support union rights to collective bargaining by like a 60-35 margin. Yesterday, Fox news spun the results of the Gallop Poll by restating the question that was actually asked to make it look like the poll was saying the opposite (how’s that for fair and balanced?). They came back later and recanted that report but of course by that time the damage had already been done.
It also now appears that attached as an amendment to this union busting bill, is legislation that allows Walker to sell state owned power plants to whomever he wants at any price he wants, without putting them up for competitive bidding: Hmmm, what primary business are the Koch brothers in? Oh yea, that would be the power utility business.
It’s quite obvious from Walker’s own words that he lacks integrity, ethics and scruples. His popularity in WI had already fallen before this incident but now his popularity will take tumble right into the gutter (where his mind already lives). I’m betting if Walker is not forced to resign, WI voters will have him recalled by whatever means the WI constitution allows.
Walker is only doing what he was elected to do. I trust the WI election results far more than any Gallup poll. Unions have destroyed Wisconsin. The people got smart and elected adults to deal with their huge debt problem. You libs make a big deal about Walker taking a prank call from Koch. How about Obambie entertaining union bosses from SEIU and AFL/CIO weekly?? The source of his largest political donations. Lib hypocrisy is beyond measurement. But I'm not worried. The country is finally moving in the RIGHT direction!!
Hobie81--yeah, it is a big deal that Walker took that call. You can try to misdirect all you want, surprised the name George Soros wasn't mentioned by you.... if the all of the financial provisions he wanted were agreed to why is the Gov still holding out on collective bargaining? And what direction do you think the country is (finally) moving to?
Hobie81 Get your facts straight! Walker campaigned on requiring public employees to pay more for their health insurance and contribute more for pension costs, and he followed through on that. He never campaigned on trying to reverse WI public employee collective bargaining laws enacted in 1959, he never said anything about trying to strip public employee's of their bargaining rights, or even worse to do that for all public employees except the 3 groups of public employees that traditionally endorse GOP candidates, and have the highest per capita employee cost (highest wages and best and most expensive pension plan). In a poll conducted last week the majority of WI residents (52%) oppose Walker's attempt to change the law with respect to public employee's right to bargain. And this poll was taken before the public employee unions agreed to 100% of Walker's financial demands, and before the Governor foolishly spilled the beans in the prank phone call about his true motivation.
Walker needs to step down or start IMPEACHMENT ! He has disgraced the office and the oath he took ! He is a puppet for the KOCH IND ! They control him with bribes just like all the other republicans ! He needs to leave THIS MORNING !!!!
Impeachment or recall Walker! He is destroying the state of Wisconsin!!
IMD and Tommy, What is the impeachable offense? Please provide legal reasons , not cry baby democratic coward reasons.
There is an enormous difference between entertaining ones supporters and using unethical political grandstanding to force legislation for the sole purposing of infringing on a groups 1st admendment rights (I'm sure most constitutional judges and lawyers will agree that workers collective bargaining rights is protected by the 1st amendment).
As for Walker doing what he was voted to do. He was voted in to balance the WI budget and not to use his office for conducting right-wing gamemenship and grandstanding. WI is a huge pro-union state and the current polls are showing that Walker's support in the state of WI has fallen from about 50% to below 40% since the debacle began.
"Democratic strategists believe their Tea Party moment has arrived"
Interesting how the Dems now pay homage to the Tea Party as a successful political movement, which they must try to emulate.
Problem is, the Party of Government and Public Employee Unions is far removed from real voters. Their 'grassroots' movement will be nothing but media spin and paid agitators .
"(I'm sure most constitutional judges and lawyers will agree that workers collective bargaining rights is protected by the 1st amendment)."
100% wrong. Collective bargaining rights for public employees were provided as a privilege by the Sovereign State, though the elected Governor and State Assembly.
Since this privilege has been shown to be bad policy, the duly elected Governor and Legislature can change the law. Elections have consequences.
If this law passes it will be oppossed on constitutional grounds since constitution clearly states in regards to the 1st amendmend that the rights to free speech and to organize can not be infringed. But hey, go ahead and believe that this Anti-American worker movement by the right-wing is a consequence of the election; if so it is a consequence that a majority of Wisconsinites and Americans did not bargain for (pun intended).
Bob,
It's true that the right to bargain is a statutory right. It was given to all public employees in WI in 1959. This is the first attempt to revise that law, despite the number of prior GOP Governors in WI since the laws passage in over 50 years ago. Prior to being elected Walker never said he wanted to change WI law, and essentially strip most (but not all) public employees of their collective bargaining rights. He only said he wanted to make changes to the health care and pension contributions, but after control of the legislature switched parties Walker seized the opportunity to destroy Democratic friendly public employees unions!
While a law that eliminated the right to collective bargaining for all public employees would pass constitutional muster. And a law that treated all public employees the same with respect to reducing collective bargaining rights and collection of memberships dues would probably pass constitutional muster (the question is if you allow public employees collective bargaining rights in a "fair share" state, can you require public employees to operate under "right to work laws", probably not).
However Walker's bill doesn't treat all public employees the same, the 1959 law would not change for three classifications of public employees. These three groups of public employees not only have the highest pay, and best (most expensive) benefits, but they are also the only GOP leaning public employee unions in WI (both in party ID of their membership, and actual past endorsements of GOP candidates by the respective unions). It is hard to imagine that treating the three GOP leaning public employee unions preferentially and changing the law for the Democratic leaning public employee unions would be found to be constitutional (it almost certainly would be an equal protection violation).
I use to think that the Dems were going to lose the Senate in 2012. After this WI union buster /Teabagger has been fully exposed im beginning to think not
The sleeping giant has been awoken
it sure has
How can you refer Liberals as Giants. Their numbers are only in the percentage teens in the Amercian public. Maybe the Sleeping Midget has been awakened. Keep dreaming that you are more than you are.
you only wish that was true
Bev and LouisJ,
I enjoyed both of your comments poking fun at the WI Gov's "Moment of Truth", however I think that now is the time for all of us who are "left-of-center" to turn up the heat on what is clearly an attempt to permanently shift the balance of power in America to the neo/ultra-Conservatives.
I had an opportunity to read several other posts this morning commenting on an article () which stated that the WI State Assembly Democrats were compromising with their Republican counterparts on the number of amendments they would file (38) and the length of debate on each amendment (10 min each max). I was amazed at the number of posters who did not know the difference between the State Assembly and the State Senate, which is the branch of the legislature where the 14 Democrat State Senators belong to. And it was not just opponents, but also supporters who didn't know the difference. It points to the fact that too many of our fellow citizens don't know the make up or organizational structure of their local, county, state or federal government yet they are all so quick to lap up any sound byte which negatively portrays the positions of the opposing political party.
America should be for all Americans not just the well to do, the privileged few or the politically connected. Gov. Walker's "Punk'd" moment should be a wake up call to all of the Middle Class and public workers of this country. This new breed of Republican governors, state and federal legislators are comfortable in their assessment that "the 2010 election provided them with a mandate to Take Back Their Country". We are quickly seeing where they want to take the country "Back" too, and I for one want no part of their nostalgic journey.
While there is some truth to the statement that "Unions have overreached" the same can be said about municipal, state and federal management. The people who are members of any Public Employee's Union, for the most part, make less in actual take home pay than their private sector counterparts. That take home pay short fall is made up through the benefits and retirement packages they negotiate with their employer. Are those compensation packages expensive? Yes. Are they out of line with private sector compensation? Probably by today's standards, but they weren't when they were originally negotiated. The devil is in the details. Public governments typically look at the retirement packages they offer to their workers as deferred payments, long term obligations that effectively lowered their short term operating costs. Well, now that the long term is today they want to skip out on what was promised. Most people would say that qualifies as a breach of contract.
I have worked in both the private and public sectors. My private sector employers paid me a basic rate of pay that was commensurate with the market. But, I also received bonus payments when the company was doing well which served to increase my overall compensation. Yes, I paid more for my benefits package, but that was a choice that I made, as there were less expensive options available to me. But as soon an the economy entered a downturn my job was no longer required (Last hired, first fired). Now, if I compared what I made during the years I worked in the private sector to what I would have been paid in the public sector during that same time, there is no comparison. I definitely would make more in the private sector. The fact is that most public sector positions have wage scales that max out somewhere between 5 and 10 years of employment. After that, the only increases a public sector employee gets are cost-of-living and merit increases. For the past several years these increases average 2.5% annually.
Has the private sector wage rate changed significantly in the past 3-4 years? Yes, definitely. Most workers have seen their pay flat-line and in some cases decrease. Most have seen their benefit co-pays increase significantly as companies pass on more and more of their operational cost increases to the workers and customers. Have the profits in the private sector increased? According to published reports, last year big businesses made the Most Profits Ever. But now Public Employee Unions are the reason why local and state governments have budget deficits?
The real reason for the deficits is as complex as linear algebra, in that there are several factors which go into the equation. Housing foreclosures and the resulting decline in property tax revenue are a major factor; unemployment and the resulting loss of sales tax revenue, payroll tax revenue (less workers), increases in operational costs (gas, water, electricity, wages and benefits) all contribute to the decline in revenues. But does that make it right that the benefits and retirement packages that public employees were promised when they got hired should be forfeited because conditions changed? Does it mean that the right to bargain collectively should be removed because it makes the task of reaching agreement more difficult and/or more expensive? (Gov. Walker's stated reason in his latest Fireside Chat).
Again, I say that it is time for us to wake up from our apathy and realize that the core beliefs of the Democratic Party are under assault, once again. And just like our ancestor's did we must fight to ensure the gains that they made remain available to our children and grandchildren. It is seriously time to educate our less informed fellow Americans about the importance of actively participating in the electoral process, starting with their local governmental entities. Americans must understand that you must vote in every election that is held, otherwise you lose your opportunity to have your voice be heard.
We elect our President once every four years. But in our system of government the President does not make laws, he is simply the policy person. The House and Senate are the bodies which are responsible for what the average citizen deals with everyday. If Democrats don't step up to their responsibility to turn out and vote in every election, then we will continue to see this type of Republican legislative action in the future. Republicans turned out and voted in November 2010, Democrats didn't. Republicans spoke with their vote. Democrats wasted their voice and an opportunity to "Protect The Change" that they supported in 2008. Let us begin now to reverse that trend. Let us remember that our vote is our voice, and no matter how much advertisement money, negative ads, campaign fliers, etc. are printed, bought and distributed it all boils down to whether or not you get off your backside, go to your designated precinct and cast your vote.
If you don't vote, you really have nothing to complain about or anyone to complain to.
yep, walker couldn't identify the callers voice as not being a koch brother. So much for lefties thinking he was in bed with the kochs.
No, he was just sooo excited to get a call from "Koch" You could hear it in Walker's voice!
When Mr. Koch calls, you had better the call from your boss.
This Governor Walker needs to be brought up in conspiracy charges, and repealed from governorship. How open and in your face can our democracy be sold, this is a big one, this governor is a crook the worst kind.
This governor said that he deliberately made statements to the media so that it would be words out their to distract his true intent to disrupt a peaceful protest. He said, Mr. Koch, thats why i keep saying to the media outside influences being bused in. He was setting the stage through the media, and i wounder if some of the conservative media was airing his words to get out that message of deception for him. This is huge this is so not right, this Mr. Walker should be removed, and never be able to serve for the interest of the people again, for he is not for the people but advancing his own agenda.
he's following the GOP playbook, with their media outlet always happy to comply
And right now the people of the USA have seen a republican in action in the form of a prank phone call who ..tried to seem like he was doing as ordered by the Koch brothers ! We now see how the republicans tried to take over the USA .. on local levels to keep the people under control ! Strip them of their rights to a decent living and decent benefits...but got busted on tape ! Rather then resign in shame .. what does he say ....i wont let a lil phone call ....... its your call 2012 is right around the corner !
It doesn't get dumber than this. Bill Mahr, Maddow, Ed Schultz doesn't need to look for comedic material, the rightwinger dishes it up for them every week. I have taught my two year old to use more discretion when using the telephone. This Walker's arrogance and pomp is going to hand another victory to the left