Christie delivers his budget speech in NJ

From NBC's Lauren Selsky
Republican New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie this afternoon delivered his 2011-2012 budget to a joint session of the New Jersey State Legislature.
 
He introduced his new "bottom-up" approach to budgeting -- stopping old commitments, and setting new priorities to meet New Jersey's 21st century challenges -- as the "new normal" in the state, and pointed out that New Jersey has become a "leader in fiscal discipline."
 
He also seemed to strike a bipartisan tone as he mentioned -- multiple times -- that states with Republican and Democratic governors are now looking towards New Jersey as a national model.
 
"Democratic governors and Republican governors now look to New Jersey as a beacon of hope for what can happen when leaders lead and a people sacrifice as one for the future of our children. I thank the people of New Jersey for standing with me in turning our state into a national model."
 
"Democrat or Republican, it doesn't matter. We are all facing the same problems. These problems are bigger than either political party. The promises of the past are too expensive, and the prospects of the future are too important to stay on the old, failed course."
 
"Today, states as diverse as California and Wisconsin, Ohio and Florida, New York and New Mexico are following the New Jersey model we fought for last year."

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No Jo

Is there any money in his budget to pay the feds back?

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Reply#1 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:55 PM EST

No Jo I'm sure he put money in to pay his lawyers Not to pay it back?

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#1.1 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:03 PM EST

"bottom-up"

Christie would be well served to refrain from pointing out 'bottom's - EWWW my eyes! lol

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#1.2 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:07 PM EST

That is very insightful. Fat jokes are totally in right now, and very progressive

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#1.3 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:30 PM EST

A sizable majority of Americans say their states are now having major budget problems, and they think spending cuts, not higher taxes, are the solution.
Most voters continue to oppose federal bailouts for financially troubled states. Voters aren’t thrilled with the idea of letting states declare bankruptcy, but they're more supportive if told government employees might have their pensions reduced in the process.

Seventy-eight percent (78%) of Americans say politicians’ unwillingness to reduce government spending is to blame for the budget crises in many states.
When it comes to the nation’s historic-level federal budget deficit, 70% of all voters think voters are more willing to make the hard choices needed to reduce government spending than elected politicians are.

Sixty-six percent (66%) of all voters nationwide favor a proposal to cut the federal payroll by 10% over the coming decade.

Sixty-eight percent (68%) of Americans think workers in the private sector work harder than government workers.

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#1.4 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:10 PM EST

Christy would know about "sizable " majorities and "bottom-up" approaches. LOL....

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#1.5 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:28 PM EST

Sorry safecracker, just because some polls say that voters think this or think that doesn't necessarily mean that the voters are right. I live in Texas, and our Republican politicians on the state level are not going to even think about trying to raise taxes to help cover a $27 billion shortfall. They want to cut everything to the bone, and let the county, city, and local gov'ts. do all of the tax raising, so they can claim they didn't raise taxes and balanced the budget. The real problem is, that unless unemployment plunges severely, and lots of new jobs are added, the shortfalls will only keep coming. This is not a one time deal, but our current Gov. and his lackeys don't care about the future, just the present and what he can do to make himself look good. They have over $9 billion in a "Rainy Day Fund", but do not want to touch it. What is a $27 billion shortfall, if not a "Rainy Day"? They will end up increasing the poverty rate on an almost exponential basis, and not care that we are going to become the very bottom of the education list as well as the number of people that are uninsured for healthcare. Yet they will cut the services for welfare, and COBRA, and unemployment. Explain to me how this will help the state economy, if you can. Increasing the unemployed, and poverty rates, does not bring prosperity.

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#1.6 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:32 PM EST

Sixty-eight percent (68%) of Americans think workers in the private sector work harder than government workers.

As a government employee who is having the 'pleasure' of working alongside private contractors (private sector; awarded a no-bid contract), I would like the educate those 68% of Americans:

I officially work 40 hours of week, but unofficially it's upward of 60, and I know for a fact that none of my private sector counterparts are on-hand during the weekends. We get to work before they do each morning, and leave after they do each night. And while our private sector counterparts are busy Facebooking each other, each one of us in my department are actually working and pulling our weight, and have achieved recognition with several 'employee of the month' and 'department of the quarter' awards.

But you want to know what the funny thing is? Those 'hard-working' workers are making more money than we are and working less in return. So that '68% of Americans' can take their 'opinions' and shove it.

    #1.7 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:05 PM EST

    Christie said today (paraphrasing):"No more of this TWO-class society where you have the rich union folks on one side ~ and the hard-working Americans on the other".

    What Governors Christie/former Lehman Bros-Kasich/Walker really mean is: "Do not mess with our top 2% income bracket because they can do as they please, and they want you give up your rights". The budget deficit is now their weapon of choice to deny the rest of us and our families decent wages and recourse to employer abuse.

    Are we going to take orders/advice from friends of Wall street, whose crimes caused a million housing foreclosures and the near-collapse of our financial system? We know how to spell 'inequality'. We know what it means and the truth is our nation's teachers earn on average $30K a year.

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    #1.8 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:41 PM EST

    I have not heard one person quote a source for all these polls that tell us what the American people think. Sound like the made up statistics that people always come up with to support their points. And even if these polls are accurate we all know that the majority of people in this country don't know what they're talking about. How many people in this country still think trickle down economics is an effective economic strategy.

      #1.9 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:21 PM EST

      Let's look at the details. It's called 'Zero based budgeting', where the task is defined and then the budget to do that task has to be justified, starting from Zero. It's an old concept, but very pertinent to todays bloated government spending policies, which just continue the failed policies of the past.

        #1.10 - Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:34 AM EST

        ConservativeRepublican-1854 "I officially work 40 hours of week, but unofficially it's upward of 60, and I know for a fact that none of my private sector counterparts are on-hand during the weekends."

        You must be the exception. When I worked in the public sector for several years (a city), it was mostly 'look busy' work, where the department head's main concern was spending every penny of his budget so he would get more money next year. And at 5PM, there was a mass exodus out of the building, and half of the time was spent 'gabbing' about politics. I quit because I just got too bored.

          #1.11 - Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:43 AM EST
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          Christie.... teach me how to eat less, then may I'd listen to you....

          And stop lying buddy... u r running for President already... just dont have the ballz to admit it.

          On a side note, he looks like he's actually losing weight, good for him.... i don't like seeing him throw his weight around hitting all states except for NJ where he's needed (drum roll, lol).

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          Reply#2 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:57 PM EST

          haha...why would I want to insult you.... no matter how much you goad me, I ain't doing it lol...

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          #2.2 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:22 PM EST

          @Please, just keep your hands away from Christy's mouth when he's eatin', that is if you want to keep all of your fingers.

            #2.4 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:29 PM EST

            @Please... another good one...

            Must be after 5:00

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            #2.6 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:40 PM EST

            @please.. funny, I actually did LOL.... gtg have a good night.

              #2.8 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:22 PM EST

              @please

              Michelles lumberjack arms? It is obvious that as a true republican you don't have to be sensitive to others and are a proud insulter. Keep up the good work and continue to exemplify the republican ideology.

                #2.10 - Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:55 AM EST

                @ please

                You were criticizing someone for insulting and in the same breath you inserted a petty insult yourself. That, dear "don't insult me", is the definition of hypocracy. But then, you wouldn't be a t-bagger if you knew the difference.

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                #2.12 - Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:27 PM EST
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                "Democrat or Republican, it doesn't matter. We are all facing the same problems. These problems are bigger than either political party. The promises of the past are too expensive, and the prospects of the future are too important to stay on the old, failed course."
                _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

                Can anyone actually disagree with that?

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                Reply#3 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:00 PM EST

                When are the wealthy going to join in our suffering?

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                #3.1 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:24 PM EST

                Debbie, When are the wealthy going to join in our suffering?

                Why?

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                #3.2 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:50 PM EST

                "Can anyone actually disagree with that?"

                I'm sure you meant..."anyone", outside of the confines of First Read?

                In that case...no, dangerfield.

                There are no concession to reality here.

                I doubt that there'll ever be.

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                #3.3 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:06 PM EST

                Let me answer that Debbie: Simply this thetotas: Not so long ago, we in American knew that there were times where it was important to SHARE sacrifice. World War 2 is a good example of that. People understood that taxes must be raised to afford that war, young people left schools in droves to enlist, and EVERY MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD bought War Bonds with every little extra cent they had. They gave up meat, new cars, new tires, sugar and butter, and used ration books. Large factories were re-tooled to make armaments, and the women went to work to build planes and ships. The end result? That generation, who knew sacrifice for the greater good benefits ALL beat the most evil menace of that day, and ended the Great Depression. Now? We hear that the sacrifice is only patriotic and right if it benefits the rich, that they, because they are rich are exempt from giving their all to this country in its time of need. That the rich must hold sway over the lower classes, and God help the middle class and working poor if they want to negotiate with their employer. Add to that, a Governor of a state is now threatening to fire those workers for going to the trough, pulling their forelocks as an act of obeisance and saying "Please sir, may I have, some crust that you won't feed to your dog" and then you ask WHY? You offend me to my soul.

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                #3.4 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:21 PM EST

                Debbie, President Obama extended the Tax Credits, allowing all Americans the ability to reduce their tax bill. If you have issues with it, please call or write you President.

                I'm certain that the working poor, or the poor are greatful, for they do not, as many speech of, pay taxes at all. And the middle class, whatever income level it is today, pay the majority of the freight.

                Wouldn't it be nice for everyone to pay a flat percentage of their income to resolve the issue?

                And New Day Dawning, you dawn went south with that explanation!

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                #3.5 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:27 PM EST

                The problem is that we ALL want the services government provides, national security, defense, garbage pick up, snow removal, fire, police, education but for some strange notion, people think these things can be provided by cutting spending and reducing taxes. I do not doubt there are areas where government spending can be reduced without causing damage but some of what I have seen being cut will have far more expensive ramifications down the road. It is time to start looking at long term goals and not short term fixes.

                As the population increases, so does the cost of providing services. This is a global world, a complex one with dangerous elements yet people are unwilling to acknowledge that protecting our country, educating our people and providing some sense of security and safety when we are too old to earn a living costs money. We cannot have it both ways. If we want to retain a quality of life, a sense of security and want a bright future, we have to be willing to invest in it collectively. That simple truth has been denied for too long. We are angry at deficit spending yet are unwilling to either pay slightly higher taxes or go without the services.

                I was frustrated with former Pres Bush and the GOP for spending tax payer money without asking anyone to pay for it; the resulting massive debt is proof that you do not get something for nothing. In 2008, Bush had to deficit spend and when Pres Obama took office, the Government HAD TO continue to deficit spend to keep the country from falling apart and from a second Great Depression. I do not begrudge that spending but I do resent the unnecessary UNFUNDED spending by Bush and the GOP during the good years; for starting two wars without thought to paying the costs or asking for shared sacrifice.

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                #3.6 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:31 PM EST

                Libbies can only attempt to discredit the man on size, not principal.

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                #3.7 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:32 PM EST

                @safecracker: Too easy:

                the size is so large

                and the principals are virtually non-existent.

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                #3.8 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:42 PM EST

                Really great response, Duh101, I enjoyed it, thanks for the chuckle!

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                #3.9 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:51 PM EST

                @Duh,

                well Duh, Duh. No question the man is large, but his principals apparently reach out to the voters who elected him.

                Since I don't reside in NJ, I can't comment on the issues. But if you ever wish to discuss the Spending Party problems in CA, let me know.....

                @ New Day, today I found "be a libbie for a day" to be difficult. How do you go through life so unlightened?

                  #3.10 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:47 PM EST

                  Unlightened? What would that be? Surely you don't mean unenlightened..if you do, I think you demonstrated that you are.

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                  #3.11 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:13 PM EST
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                  I can agree the problems we face are bigger than Repubs or Dems, but clearly the way we're addressing them is mostly limited to the Repub or Dem worldview, depending on the state. Gov Christie must be living on a diff planet from the one I'm living on, and on HIS planet, you don't need to treat the governed with any level of respect (re: the way he's talked about teachers).

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                  Reply#4 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:06 PM EST

                  Nothing like a good PEP TALK to remind you that we're all in the same sinking boat. Middle-class workers can go home tonight and know that those guys on Wall St won't get syrup on their pancakes in the morning either!

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                  Reply#5 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:16 PM EST

                  Christie won't run for President. He doesn't have the drive. He wants to vacation in Disneyland whenever he wants without interruption while a public official. Not presidential material. Plus he just looks unhealthy. Thune is out. Can't wait to see the remaining candidates. Paul? Palin? Bachmann? Gingrich? Trump? Santorum? Late night TV, Comedy Central and SNL will be working overtime.

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                  Reply#6 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:18 PM EST

                  I didn't know you had a personal line into the governors office in NJ to find this information out.

                  Isn't this mainly speculation on your part AnaBanana from the Sacto area?

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                  #6.1 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:12 PM EST

                  No. It was a fact this last winter! He was derelict in his duties as governor during the holidays. Can't have him act like that with the title of President. He doesn't have the dedication for running the country.

                    #6.2 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:14 PM EST

                    Wow, derelict in his duties........missed it, just what did he do/not do? Anything different from our Spending Party leaders in SAC?

                      #6.3 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:48 PM EST

                      Ana,

                      I guess you didn't see the same interview with Morning Joe as I did. The question was asked why he left and he explained it. Let me ask you, was there a disaster in NJ during that time. Answer is no. Was there and issue in NYC, the answer is yes. Noboday died due to the fact of the storm in NJ, people died in NYC. You're Disney arguement is pretty damn weak, so you want to attack the way he looks? Really? I'm sure you're the poster women for womens health eh? You can't come up with anything intellegent so you attack his appearance. You're awesome!!!!

                        #6.4 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:22 PM EST
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                        Breaking news: Democrat Harry Reid takes the side of the people and the Republican Governors, against the corrupt unions!

                        News headline: "Harry Reid: "The time has come for us to outlaw prostitution"

                        Oops, never mind. Harry was talking not about unions, but the other, similar money-exchange which is legal in Nevada...

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                        Reply#7 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:58 PM EST

                        I could be a good Republican/ Tea party

                        Get in office by lies said they were for Freedom and Rights

                        Take both away from the workers and middle class

                        Then give big tax cuts to the Rich and Business and let the State workers pay for the give aways in lower wages, Health Care, Pensions and most important less of them especially if they are Democrats

                        AS his buddy Boehner would say SO BE IT if we have to layoff those lazy good for nothing Government workers

                        Of Course Boehner, Chrisite, Walker are Government Workers

                        Nice to know that their are no Republicans / Tea Party State or Government workers

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                        Reply#8 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:25 PM EST

                        That's why we are getting rid of Government Unions .

                          #8.1 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:30 PM EST

                          You know what's awesome there Lee? Walker said he was going to do what he's doing now and the people voted him in, so what do the Democrats do?? Run away like freaking cowards!! yeah, dude, be proud, be very proud that you belong to the Party of Cowards. I don't know what's worse, the Party of No or the Party of Cowards. Which one are you?

                            #8.2 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:25 PM EST

                            I feel your frustration Paul, but I think there is a Coward in the Heroe, for if not, we would have another word to call those who do heroic things. Right? I mean, we'd call our Heroes, "Frank" or "Booty-pooh-pooh" other than "Heroe" if not for those who we also call "Cowards".

                            I am teaching Sir Isaac Newton's ideology of and usefulness of Universal Mechanics--"For every action, there is an equal and or opposite reaction."

                            And so if you think like a Philosopher, you will see all sides of a pyramid, and not just the side facing your line of sight--a single dimension. Therefore, there is a Democrat in each Republican and visa-versa.

                            Ours is a messy Democracy. In times that are "interesting" we want it messy, because it brings out the necessity for argumentation--the essence of the very building blocks of a 1st Amendment put into motion is "discovering" what our moral imperatives are, from generation to generation.

                            An example: My parent's generation, pushed for big families and traditional values. My generation divorces and or has children out of wedlock and ushered in single parenting. The next generation from what I can see, is throwing the Old away and building the future extinction of mankind as electronics and toys that make lots of lights and things to fiddle with, (texting) are replacing the common sense needs of having people around to provide for the tangile necessities of life.

                            I laughed the other day, when (here in Texas) this little Ol' country gal said, "You don't have children--who will take care of you when you are old?" LOL And I said, "Honey, if you have kids, as an old age insurance policy...............................I demand my money back, since most kids today, aren't going to take care of their parents--they are too busy keeping up with the Hellish life, their parents will leave for them--a life of debt, joblessness and the land of few opportunities once called "Milk and Honey"."

                            Lawyers don't farm, rancher's kids want the big city and modern comforts of technology and carpentry is viewed as something convicts do for release programs. People want everything given to them, as that is what Mommy and Daddy "Child Obsessive" did to kids in the last 20-years. And so, kids today have NO value system nor concept of the value of money nor of themselves, as most don't have to work for anything. This is going to prove to be the final destruction of America, as diseases of inactivity will bankrupt the nation--obesity, heart disease and Diabetes will overtake cancer. But don't worry................cancer will revive as cell phones and laptop companies will the tomorrow's R. J Reynolds of product libelousness--radiotropics and Nicad battery emmissions will make brain cancers and bone cancers a close second behind heart disease.

                            Ahhh......................but those who live in blissful denial, will continue to think their children will take care of them in their golden years, while the best they can hope for, will be Alzheimer's at an early age--where each day, they forget a little more thanks to the radiation damages caused by years of cell phone obsession.

                            In other words..........................as long as we, the people are pitted against each other, the Money Gods will keep getting away with feeding us more and more McDonalds whilst we erect more and more Cell towers instead of creating more jobs dedicated to infrastructural necessities. And that aint a Democrat versus Republican ideology--it's a human thing.

                              #8.3 - Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:58 AM EST
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                              So many States took the Obama Federal Stimus Money to paper over their deficits in 2009-10. Few like Christie are willing to come to grips that previous Governors' were just kicking the can down the road. Time to face the problems head on & try to solve the fiscal mess left by their predecessors.

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                              Reply#9 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:48 PM EST

                              Just curious, but why is saying " that states with with Republican or Democratic governors are now looking towards New Jersey as a national model" biparisan?

                                Reply#10 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:09 PM EST

                                There would be more money in the state budget if Christie didn't make it his first order of business to give a handout to millionares in the form of a tax cut to get them to reconsider leaving the state. Of course Christie benefited from this as well. There never was a mass exodus of the wealthy, but in his mind there was. That brought him to his real target, the middle class.

                                  Reply#11 - Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:55 PM EST

                                  Wow Christie

                                  Never talks about all the spending he has done all those tax cuts to the Rich and Business with taxpayer money so with all that where ARE THE JOBS

                                  Guess he will just have all the taxpaying State Workers give up wages, Health Care, Pensions so the Rich can have their Tax cuts

                                  Let see Christie is one of those State Workers sucking off the Taxpayer so am sure he will be cutting his wage, Health care, Pension after all if he can ask that of the other State Workers he should be Number 1

                                  Maybe if he sent his Kids to public School and he sure doesn't need to live in the Governor House could save money and move him to a trailer in a park

                                  Oh but that's right he's a Republican/ Tea Party they don't believe in Unions , workers rights, they Believe

                                  the Rich get Richer and the can just suffer

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                                  Reply#12 - Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:30 AM EST

                                  Christie is the new "liberal media" darling, they are practically begging him to run. But he like most other potential republican candidates knwo the chance of beating Obama are is slim to none.

                                    Reply#13 - Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:11 AM EST

                                    "Into Egypt a Pharoh did come...................................."

                                    Let the Labor War begin with passive disobedience--Cops, Fire, EMT, Steel, Auto and Construction need centralized representation--a Neo-Moses if you will.

                                    My advice to the 15% "Academicly Annointed" in this country..........................."Get a job and contribute to your nation, as opposed to riding our coat tails." The cost of Law and Accounting and College, should never surpass the demand for housing, transportation and infra-structure.

                                    We cannot live without Carpenters.................................who needs a Lawyer but the paranoid Rich, who fear losing their wealth for it might mean, they'd have to get a real job. Hint, hint.....................

                                      Reply#14 - Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:39 AM EST

                                      @1Philospher: get real. If you do not have what you call the "Academicly Annointed" you do not get teachers, engineers, architects, doctors or many other professions. Your carpenters won't have anything to build, because they won't be designed. They will die, because there won't be any doctors. Their children will die, because there won't be any teachers and the children will run wild in the streets.

                                      Perhaps you, and many in the Tea Party, are hoping to take back America, to the era of Upton Sinclair's "The Jungle" or the life of poverty as it was in Dickens.

                                      Try to think before you post, you would be amazed what happens when you do.

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                                      #14.1 - Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:18 AM EST
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                                      In case you aren't a student of history or of western civilization..............................this is a war on the future of our country:

                                      1. The Haves, want a world without borders, not under the guise of John Lennon's false prophecy, but rather under the Reagan-esque, Empirialism that was Global Pax Americana--forced attrition in the name of Pharoh building anew. My take on Andrew Basevich's writings at Boston College. Do yourself a favor and read Basevich..............................he is an "undiscovered gem" and U.S Treasure\Heroe.

                                      2. We cannot compete with China, until we engage them in a re-evaluation of their currency kept low on purpose--our Presidents lack the backbone to confront them. The Yuon and our Trade Policies, stink--Clinton and NAFTA stinks and if we lose our abilities to make things, we will only make "Micro-Managers" for which employs the Few 1% Executives at the expense of the many 85% Indentured Slave.

                                      We cannot go backwards to a time, when Enlightenment, or Discovery took over Commoner Sense--the motus for a centralized Government was a necessary evil, to ensure States and its ligislators were kept at-bey. We are seeing why a Federal Government is and was necessary to ensure "Equality". When that Centralized Governance made up of and comprised of the 15% Educated Few (Minority) seizes all power over private and public trusts..........................we cease as a Democracy and become a Plutocracy or Oligarchy--a governance that serves Academia through its annointing processes called "Degrees".

                                      Are we to revive pyramid building where Hiram Abyff is the poster child for rich little spoiled men like Ben Franklin who were defunct of moral integrity as he danced for the Devil and laid with unkempt women while he dug up dead people and performed rituals so grotesque I won't utter them herein? Or, are we going to continue to play the Unholy's game and blame organized labor and religion, for those who mean to fight for themselves and their rights to oppose the Elite Bored? Maybe we should have that conversation? Maybe we should ask ourselves, why we print "In God We Trust" on our money, when if you trust in God, why would you need money? Maybe we should have a national conversation, on why selling degrees became more important to Academia, instead of educating future Leaders who would expose those who made Education, a "commodity" to be traded in the name of Facebook and branding the Devil's herd through self-marketing and advertising those willing to use the church (their bodies) for commerce?

                                      Why do successful people have small Amygdalas and huge frontal lobal areas--why are they so anti-God and so hateful of those who labor and toil for their nation? Why are so many "educated" people just so completely devoid of moral character or integrity? Are they so bored with buying the luxuries, that cannot make them happy, that they begin to look at Sin as a motus for salvation? Or are they so incappable of empathy (an Amygdala thing) that Devil Worship and Witchcraft gives them a sense of delight and Masonic like 180-degrees of hypocritical thinking? I mean....................Hiram Abyff was a man who worked with his hands and built tangible and useful things..............................he was NOT some overly educated Bore looking for a private club where morally defunct Imps could gather in the name of Enlightenment. He was by the way killed by his own Apprentices, because he stole their ideas and inventions for himself--he took credit for other's hard work. LOL

                                      I hope some will read this and see the hypocrisy of U.S propaganda and its mechanism that brought us to this time in history--Banking failed to build our Nation, as it built only the nations of those who seek to be an island amongst a sea of Common men and women who do more in a day, than most do in a lifetime. Perhaps it's time to have a national discussion on what our values are as moral imperatives by which dogma has been wagged by the tail of hypocrisy for way too long--does money rule us, or do we rule over money. It is a global necessity that ALL decide if the pursuit of class is worth the desctuction of God as a moral imperative for keeping people grounded to decency and reasonability?

                                      I think, therefore I am? Who does what they say anymore?

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