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U.S. sources who have been closely involved in the Egyptian crisis tell us that "Mubarak is going nowhere," at least for now, and that they were "taken by surprise," by tonight's announcement.
They, too, are concerned about Mubarak's statement (according to the translator) that to restore confidence in the economy Mubarak would "federalize the streets." (U.S. presidents have "federalized" military forces to confront segregationists, anti-war protestors, etc.).
According to one official however, "We have assurances, both PRIVATE and public that the [Egyptian] military would not fire on the people."
Intelligence officials are also scrambling to try to determine exactly what this all means. According to one official, "We didn't know exactly what Mubarak was going to do tonight. There was an assumption he would step down, but it looks like he's got other ideas."
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That guy is going nowhere. He already stated that the riff-raff were not going to force him to do anything. I think I see a "coo" in the near future.
The military might, but he military is already probably calling the shots. They are trying to figure out a transition too, something Obama should have been doing for the last two years if he had a clue.
no joe beat FR to the story, again, calling out Obama's Clapper of intelligence on the Trump thread.
And what a truly amazing if not stunning story. James Clapper, the head of INTELLIGENCE for the UNITED STATES says the Muslim Brotherhood really just wants a "betterment of the political order in Egypt." Says they are largely secular (when they call for jihad and a world Caliphate...."death for the sake of Allah is the highest of our aspirations."
Unbelievable! And this is Obama's head of intelligence ....... the intelligence community?
OMGWS
I guess on a positive note though, looks like Ryan just found a good place to cut $40 billion of waste?
Edit: Whoops, sorry no joe - got interrupted and didn't get it posted right away.
Ramboet
That guy is going nowhere. He already stated that the riff-raff were not going to force him to do anything. I think I see a "coo" in the near future.
He sure is trying to bide time before the inevitable.
@ bob
A group that calls for and Islamic state- worldwide
That's really scary when the right mis-informs and gets everyone in a fearful tizzy. Especially all the hateful experts at Fox putting it out; isn't it? Get your guns, gold, and food and head for the hills because the ultimate tin foil hatters Glenn Beck and Swan Hannity said so. Or will you hide under you beds from the monsters?
It's worst than the bogey man ; if you know what I mean.
Well, there's gratitude for you. I guess $1.3 billion in USA foreign aid to Egypt every year just gets our county's face rubbed in it.
So do you think Mubarak, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iran, the rest of the Middle-East, respect the United States in any way, shape, or form? Doesn't appear so.
Obama is just along for the ride on this one, just like he is for so many other things. There's going to be a lot messes for the next President to clean up starting in 2013.
Bev,
You have to read Mark Steyn's "America Alone", read any news, opinions, articles etc.
Don't have to have a clue at all, just Wiki Muslim Brotherhood.
And while your at it, forward the link to Obama and Clapper.
Hi Joanna - Long time, no ... whatever...
Yeah, LOTS of other things. Like, for example, anything that happens in a DIFFERENT, sovereign nation that didn't just attack us! He's the President of the most powerful nation in the world, but we're only one country. (FOX may not mention it very often, but believe it or not, there are over a dozen countires operating outside the US now! I know - who knew!?!)
"The difference between patriotism and nationalism is but a single pitchfork"
Wouldn't surprise me at all if the miltary took over out-right and sent Mubarak packing. That would keep things relatively stable until the next election in September. Military coups are scary, but maybe it would be for the best in this case.
Actually, the next President will be elected in 2016 and not 2012. Remember, President Obama will serve 8 years.
Also, anyone who would try to blame President Obama for the Middle mess, is pretty much a Damm idiot.
I see you didn't read the entire thread before you posted this! lol
Damn idiots galore if you continue to read below! ;o)
Enter at your own risk!
Bev. honey, take you meds. Come on now, the Brotherhood is not your friend. After all, you used to be a woman, and they don't take kindly to women, isn't that right old gal?
You think so, Job1? I don't.
In 1979, there were TWENTY FIVE republicans being touted by the media as challengers to Carter, (who also had a little Middle East problem). When two of them- Gerald Ford and Delaware governor Pete DuPint- declined to run, the media assured us that this was proof positive that the GOP could not take the White House.
In all, fifteen "candidates" declined to run. Of the remaining ten, two dropped out before the primaries, and eight entered the primaries. This was seen as further proof that the eventual GOP candidate would be so weakened after the primaries, (particularly in the area of fundraising, but also because of bitterness on the part of voters whose candidate was defeated), that Carter was assured a second term.
Hmmf.
The parallels between Obama and Carter are downright eery. Both ran for office against a wounded GOP. Both had financial crises that they attempted to fix- and not only failed,but made things worse. Both had entirely delusional energy policies. Both proved hopelessly inept at foreign affairs.
Heck, the only thing Obama is missing is a pet rock.
Given his total humiliation today, (giving a speech congratulating Egyptians for removing Mubarak, who, by the way, is still in office), and his upcoming battles with the republican House,and a frightened Senate, over real budget cuts, (battles he will lose, as he is already seen as incompetent on the budget deficit my vast majorities), I actually think he will resign before this term is over.
For the sake of the country, I hope I am right. Biden is dumb, but he is not delusional.
She says, as she paddles around the house in her moomoo & bunny slippers, waxing her mustache, belting back a bottle of gin with a side order of her favorite little blue pills, while raving to her cats that the sky is falling!
The only one who's delusional here NJNB is YOU!
Maxine? Is that you?
No Jo, you are absolutely correct in that, that is what the President's intelligence personnel are for, however don't forget that liberals object to the gathering of intelligence. They don't approve of human intelligence gathering and the certainly don't approve of the NSA's method's gathering of intelligence. So since that is the case, the democrats have down sized the intelligence community. Democrats don't understand the purpose or scope of intelligence gathering. While Feisty is right, we can't expect President Obama to read minds, WE SHOULD expect him to listen to his intelligence advisors when they give him the PBD each day. But heck, the other day President Obama threw his intelligence personnel "under the bus" because they didn't provide this information to him. Unlike most past presidents, this one doesn't believe in "The Buck Stops Here" so again, this intelligence laspse is someone else's fault
You want to provide some citations to support that nonsense janet? By the way, "the buck stops here?" I realize that you have no knowledge of this country's history, but that was used by President Truman....Democrat. The one thing that Truman was well known for? He didn't suffer fools gladly. You would be in that group.
Feisty: the "I hate America" bunch is out in force don't you think?
@bob-1805084, relax, stop the quibbling, and leave Obama out of it, you and everyone, including me...knows well enough that he has no control over the situation. Also, his plate is quite full for just trying to deal with the issues that this nation is suffering from. That is, strictly based on the views and ideologies similiar to yours, that has put us in this predicament (a messed up economy that occurred prior to the present administration). In any case, so Mubarak isn't stepping down...question is what can America do at this point? Not a thing!
OH you know it NDD - little missy 'janet' is another serial liar! I remember specifically where she said: I didn't say that even though I posted what she said the prior day! Then being the usual right wing coward - disappeared for a month or better! lmao!
Ain't that right there Janet honey?
It is amazing, Feisty, how the right wing nuts are PRAYING and SALIVATING that this country fails. I am still curious what definition of patriotism that fits. DistheMcC is the most accurate. If there were any honesty in this bunch, they would admit that. The really amusing thing about it is poor no jo's attempt to get our attention. I guess she will not believe that I have decided that it is not worth chatting with the impaired.
Janet-489369
You lost me when you started interchanging liberals and democrats.
I can assure you (being a flaming liberal myself) that not all democrats are liberals. Some D's even agree with the Patriot Act...gasp!
You are also incorrect in your suggestion that liberals do not believe in collecting intelligence. We understand the necessity to collect on those who would harm us....we also believe the zeal to collect information should not trample our Constitution.
You are surprised that the White House was clueless about what Mubarak was planning?
Do you guys EVER wake up?
Clapper does not know that the Muslim Brotherhood, which spawned Hamas, Hezbollah, and Al Queda, is an Islamofascist organization. No, he thinks they are SECULAR.
A group that calls for and Islamic state- worldwide. That calls for the destruction of Israel. The imposition of Sharia law- worldwide.
This is one heck of an intel guy. It is amazing that he found Capital Hill.
Reminds me altogether too much of Carter and his merry band of advisors who proclaimed the Ayatollah Khomeini a "Gandhi-like" figure- a holy man of peace.
It's 1979 all over again.
no joe, no bo, nj
You are surprised that the White House was clueless about what Mubarak was planning?
Do you guys EVER wake up?
I'm surprised you think the people in the White House are mind readers.
You are again showing you disdain for the President in addition to NOT focusing on the severity of what the people in Egypt are enduring. Are you aware every sovereign country has the right to self determination?
What do you want the White house to do?
You claim you don't watch FOX 'S ECHO CHAMBER. Some how I think you're lying.
I take that back you don't need to watch the fear mongering faux historians at FOX. You can pick their dribble up at other places in their cylinder.
Bev,,,,,,,,,
no joe, no bo, nj
You are surprised that the White House was clueless about what Mubarak was planning?
No We knew that the White House is Clueless. We knew this from the Start
No Joe---I felt about President Bush pretty much how you feel about President Obama. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, as I am to mine. Your unceasing expressions of negativity make you sound like a broken record. Haven't we spent the better part of the last 10 years learning what happens when we engage in nation building in sovereign nations?
I will try to explain, bev. I will not use big words, so you have some chance to understand what I am trying to tell you:
The White House is supposed to have people who give them INTELLIGENCE on what is going on in the world. The president is supposed to read and understand these reports.
What is NOT supposed to happen is for the president, or his advisors, to be so totally clueless that the president goes out and gives a speech congratulating people for forcing out their leader- who is still firmly entrenched.
It makes him look stupid. In fact, it is OBAMA'S fault- he put these people in their jobs.
I am not surprised that anyone as delusional as Obama has a completely inept intelligence staff. I am not surpassed that you do not recognize it.
However, if you, Fiesty, and Newday are his defense, he should toss in the towel.
Jo
You don't have to be so condescending. Why not send me to a website filled with pictures if you really think I'm so dumb.
The ironic part is being clueless has nothing to do with your dribble. See the irony in your own carelessness?
First of all, you're not sitting in with Intel. Therefore, you don't know what is being done.
Bev: Of course you are right, this is fluid and moving and since it is the people of Egypt determining their future, one must wait to see what they decide. Steeler fan: You would think that the nuttier right wing fringe would remember what happens when we go out "nation building". Weren't they against it before they were for it?
Here, read something REAL journalists have written about Clapper's testimony
http://www.politico.com/blogs/joshgerstein/0211/DNI_Clapper_Egypts_Muslim_Brotherhood_largely_secular.html
I guess it is easy to understand why Clapper thinks that an organization whose motto is "Islam is the Answer", and defines Islamic lands as stretching fro Spain to Indonesia, is a secular, peace loving group. Heck, they are practically Amish.
Obama hired this nitwit. Based on his reports, (among others), Obama made a fool of himself this afternoon, congratulating the Egyptian people for forcing Mubarak out- and then Mubarak announced he was going NOWHERE.
Not only am I not sitting on the intel- neither is OBAMA.
That is a truly enormous problem.
Surprised? No. No amount of incompetence is surprising for this administration.
It's like Obama doesn't even bother getting briefed every day. It hard to believe Obama's Intelligence Team knows so little about what is going on in Egypt. Either he's not getting the information, or he has no understanding about what it is.
Maybe Obama should just appoint another Czar to deal with all of this.
Bev---I agree with you---I think we are all impatient for this to be resolved and rooting for the Egyptian people to have the government they want and deserve but we don't get to determine the time table. And it hasn't been that long.
New Day----10 years of nation building--which I don't think we have any right to do---has seen no new nations built but the loss of countless lives and the adverse impact on our economy from unfunded wars. And still no stability in the region.
Honesty - It was a big mistake for NBC news and other organizations to take the word of two sources inside of Mubarak's own government. Why is it that the media can't just report the news instead of trying to predict it?
Unfortunately it was a bigger mistake for US officials to believe the media. The media has 24 hour cycles to fill to "infotain" news junkies. The Obama administration should have provided a more "we will wait and see" comment about the developments. Yes the Obama admin. can say they support the demonstrators rights and their ultimate goals but don't ASSUME something is going to happen. The situation is FLUID. The US didn't need to scoop anyone so why did they put so much faith in anonymous sources? They should have just let the dictator make his speech and then comment!
Despite the mistep, the US must continue to walk a tight rope here. We must stay engaged but ultimately the answers will have to come from Egyptians.
The arab street's primary grievance against the US is our foreign policy decisions that sometimes smack hypocritical to our beliefs in individual freedoms and liberties. Hopefully, we can retain some semblance of allegiance with the new figure that rises from free elections. I just hope that there is not massive rioting from the protestors that will give Mubarak, in his view not mine, a reason to beat down his people and declare martial law etc.
What can the US do? Any major involvement in Egypt however good the intentions or however justified the action is perceived in the US will be seen as western aggression - The other major greivance the arab street has against us. Obama needs to stand by the US pledge to support people who are calling for free and fair elections but everything must be through diplomatic efforts only.
I would look for Obama to call on the Arab league or other allies of Egypt like Jordan and Saudi Arabia and have them ask for Mubarak to step down.
Thoughtful post, Yellowdog. I take issue with just one area- Jordan is facing issues of its own, and, on the heels of Tunisia and Egypt, (not to mention Yemen), I am beginning to see a pattern here.
It is not much of a leap to see that the forces behind these coups are biding their time, watching the situation in Egypt, and plotting anew their strategies in Jordan and, in all likelihood, Saudi Arabia.
What I am saying is, the longer Egypt stretches out, the longer those two nations have to attempt to head crisis off at the pass. I, therefore, believe they have no good reason to try to persuade Mubarak to step down.
I pray for a peaceful, orderly transition- owned and run by the military. I also hope ElBaradei falls into a deep dark hole somewhere- he is nothing more than a tool of the Muslim Brotherhood.
I pray it does not come to violence, for, if it does, the entire Middle East will be in flames.
Great post, Yellowdog----good points about the media and the Arab world's view of us. I think this situation is so fluid and volatile that we need to just let it play out in public and do most of the talking behind the scenes.
Well at least he did not attack another country without a reason. I wonder who did that?
Ongoing10- I do not believe that the situation in Egypt will give rise to any kind of democracy other than that enjoyed by the Iranians.
While I, obviously, agree that our constitutional democratic republic is the best form of government, it is not optimal for every people on earth.
Moreover, I believe that this is a situation manufactured by the Muslim Brotherhood, allied with other Islamic groups, in order to oppress the Egyptian people more fully than they are already being oppressed.
You see, I have seen this movie before.
When the Shah was overthrown,(with the help of Carter, whose playbook seems to be Obama's bible), the people did not get the democracy they sought. Oh, there are elections, all right- remember last summer? The Iranian people have fewer, not more, rights, and less freedom. Economically, they were far better off under the Shah- now, those lucky enough to have jobs work for subsistence wages, as most of the country's money goes to the ruling body- and the military.
I believe Egypt's military can stabilize the country, and ensure that,miff elections are held, they will be fair, and free from the kind of shenanigans that hand the reins of power to Islamofacists.
It would be a wonderful world if all peoples were afforded the kind of government we enjoy. Sadly, much of the world is not in a position to do so.
Ok NewDay and Steeler Fan - defend Clapper. Go ahead and give it a try- I DARE YOU.
Alright then, so who is Clapper's boss? Who has ultimate responsibility? Say it.
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Why does the right have to constantly bring in Obama to every arguement? I find it sad that they can't see their own petty hatred boil over into this and it disgusts me.
Okay, you guys wanna play the blame game? The following Presidents supported the dictator known as Mubarak:
Reagan, Bush Sr., Clinton, Bush Jr., Obama
Is that enough blame for ya?
Thanks for your reply, Ongoing10. I actually think we want the same things for Egypt- maybe we just don't agree on the best path for them to get there.
Anyway, I enjoyed this discussion. I hope you post more often. This board could certainly use more reasonable voices.
In other words, I hope to see a lot more of your posts.
No Indy Lib, nobody is playing the blame game. Before Obama gave his speech in Michigan, he should had been quite and wait until the situation played out. What happened today made Obama look like a fool and not sure what to do.
It's a typical Liberal, believe the first thing you hear and run with it like it's the truth. Examples???? Well the shooting in AZ, you people blamed the TEA party 90 minutes after it happened. There's more examples.
Job1-are you 4 years old?? Really dude, want to deflect on a totally different situation in the Middle East. Get a clue and get educated........
No Jo, You pretty much nailed it and all they can come back with is insults or Bush. Libs need to jump on their first bit of information and hope it's the truth.
In Michigan-Why Obama???? Because he's in charge, that's why, not that hard to understand. Obama is over his head on isssues and surrounded himself with people that don't have a clue. Sorry, look at the last two years. Notice any changes in the last three months in his office??
Yellowdog, what can we do? I don't know, maybe keep our mouths shut and not comment to the public on what Obama is going to do, Obama is so wishy-washy it's starting to become a joke. Name one world leader that respects Obama as a world leader? Just one................
Paul, while I agree Obama gets 0 out of 10 style points for his flub, this is a problem that's been 30 years in the making. For some reason, neither the dems nor the repubs can make a firm decision on whether or not we support democracy or we support dictators who help US interests. All I ask is that we make it 1 way or the other and live with the consequences.
Paul, name one world leader who respects Obama?
Well, there's, there's, there's. . .
Well, what about. . .
Of course, we can't forget. . .
Well, there must be somebody!
I know- what out his dog? Surely HE respects him.
Oh. Wait, he has a lead. He isn't a leader. Well, he kind of IS. Have you ever seen him? He doesn't heel too well.
Great. We have president who cannot even train his dog.
Indylib- style points?!?!
Style points!?!?!?!?
My post above was silly, but I was trying to be silly.
STYLE POINTS?!?!?
Are you being serious?
NJNB, just sayin' it would be nice if one of you dems/repubs actually made a decision.
Agreed Indy on both R and D, but like I said, mouths should had been zipped on both sides. You have Biden saying one thing, Obama saying another, while Hillary saying something different. Senators on both sides giving their opinion. Being over in the Middle East a few times, a persons comments and actions might mean something different from us. Oh yeah I would like to blame the media too.
Oh yeah I would like to blame the media too.
Haha! I'll definitely join you in that.
How about this, Indylib-
Don't speak until the situation is crystal clear.
Not what you think.
Now what you hope.
Wait until you KNOW.
Obama made an IDIOT of himself today- and, by virtue of his position, of the country.
If he wore a sweater and held a pet rock, you'd never be able to tell the difference between him and Carter.
NoJo shows us time and again that a RUSH for Intel - is better than vetting the info. It's no wonder she supported Bush and their RUSH to pin 9/11 on Iraq.
But let's just go to WAR with the errant intel rather than get ACCURATE info, even if it takes a little longer.
This crowd will not be happy until we are bomb bomb bombng Iran, Egypt and every other Arab country.
Yet they bristle if you suggest they want to wage HOLY wars.
It would be 'funny' if it weren't so pathetic. We cannot invade every country and muscle OUR final solution,...no matter how WAR eager the Repubs are!
Did you read my posts, Clara?
Obama spoke about Mubarak leave g- before Mubarak spoke, and told the world he was staying put.
That made him, and us, look stupid.
I said he should have waited until AFTER Mubarak spoke.
Clapper testified that the Muslim Brotherhood was a peace loving, secular organization- the average fifth grader is smarter than that. Maybe he does not have the Google.
There was nothing in any of my posts about invading, bombing, or interfering. Nothing.
So, what was your point?
Nope, nj, I stopped reading your stuff for facts around about the Mumbai incident. But your incessant Obama hate speech doesn't need to be read for depth of content. It is the same scree day in and day out.
You've been asked what YOU would have done and quite frankly I haven't heard anything of substance. We know, why would you apply critical thinking to the situation,...it's not YOUR job?
Much easier to sit on the sidelines and critique. Doesn't require much. And give me a break, you know damn good and well you were in the bomb Iran group. Don't pretend otherwise now.
I would like to just say...Mr. Matthews ask a question and then shut up. You ask a question of your guest then you talk, talk, talk, talk, --Then talk, talk, talk and give your guest 10 seconds to respond before you interupt again. Talk, talk, talk. PLEASE stop answering your own questions. Thank you. Just trying to help
Dee-2142645
Chris a fast talker. I'm from the midwest. I thought all people on the East Coast were fast talkers.
I'm with you Dee----especially when he keeps doing it with the same point. I want to hear the guests talk too.
Matthews thinks he's smarter than everybody. I don't get the feeling Comcast is liking good old Chris so much. I give him until June.
Bye Chris, we'll really, really miss you.
Chris like choo-choos....................Bev, up he talks fast and O'Rielly talks fast too and he's from NYC, ahhh nevermind, you wouldn't understand.
It is going to get ugly...
It already has. . .
Talk to me in a couple of days...
Just wondering if you are both depressed that it didn't get 'ugly'?
Perhaps the Administration was getting 'faulty' intel from the liar that just left his office? Just a thought,...
Hosni Mubarak really doesn't affect our lives. Can we get Obama to step down instead?
People like you I really don't understand. You live in a Country where 100% of every part of your life is in existance because of a combination of people and institutions and day in and day out you treat government (institutions) as though it had nothing to do with any it of except in the form of just taxing the people.
President Obama was democratically elected to lead this this nation and John McCain was democratically not chosen to lead this nation. Your unspoken envy wishing you even had anything to step down from overtly evident.
Instead of trying to get Obama to step down...how about getting off your lazy arse and step up since you're bringing so much to the table?
CowboyDiplomat, are you G.W. Bush by a different name? Your comment @ #5 sounds like some thing Mr. Bush would say. Kinda dumb of you, one thing that would effect our lives would be if the Suez Canal was shut down.
HECK of a JOB LEON. How did we get a CIA director with less Intel experience than Austin Powers? Political hacks.
Dennis, he has no intel expierence, why are you suprised?
What it means is that the idiots running this country have no idea how to do anything. The have no idea how to help an economy, no idea about anything going on in this world foreign policy related, NO Damn clue about anything othe3r then standing infront of a camera, smiling and lying to instil and concrete a world socialist attitude and path in this country. The US had never been so poorly led in it's entire history and if allowed another term the idiots in charge will bring this country to it's knees
Yaaaa....wouldn't you rather have our President fly in on a fighter jet and step out with an AK47 to show them who's boss? Foolish, no?
Just as foolish as you believing you know everything the President and his Administration know. In addition to the fact that they don't share everything, we have press who do a horrible job of reporting just about everthing.
I'm sorry you feel President Obama has no clue...I lived through 8 years of that with Bush. I happen to diagree with your assessment of the current leadership in this country. We're all entitled to our opinion.
Again with the "will bring our country to it's knees" ??? Geesh, this statement is trotted out every year about someone. I'm still standing....
Why don't they just hand over the keys to the terrorists. The Obama administration is living up to its pledge to be transparent, the only problem is that he is projecting weakness and confusion. Mark my words, this will not stop in Egypt. The genie is out of the bottle
We need to keep the people of Egypt in our prayers.
What a shock,the Obama administration was caught off guard . LOL !!! They have been caught off guard by EVERYTHING that has happened since the day they took office. What a bunch of bafoons ! 2012 can't get here soon enough !
I offer my services to the Administration, since I have been calling the happenings accurately since it started.
google - "you-reap-what-you-sow"
We should try to make a deal on this. We trade Egypt Obama for Mubarek. Maybe the Egyptians would be dumb enough to fall for it. It would certainly improve this country. Nobody could possibly know less than Obama does. We don't worry about that little citizenship business anyhow. That was just a one-liner in that constitution we used to use.
Allen - Omaha- He was elected if you can call what happened as a fair election to be our representative not leader. Americans do not have leaders we have representatives. The left has a problem with that concept because they see the people as the element that needs to be controled for their own good.
Whereas the new right wing (TEA Party Conservative) refuse to allow that control. Were going to win this fight because you folks follow the likes of Lanny Davis. Ha what a ride this is going to be. Remember at the end of Stanley Kubrick's "Dr. Strangelove: Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb," Slim Pickens rides the bomb down to the target yelling Ye Ha.
For most of the day, crawlers on the television screen read: “Mubarek to step down shortly.” For hours the crawlers read “Shortly.”
Leon Panetta, who seems to get his intelligence from cable channels rather than actual intelligence, reported this news to the President. The President, annoyed with the Egypt distraction anyway, straightened his tie, smugly announced “Another situation under control” and flew off to a friendly Michigan audience.
He ‘s so immersed in the delusion that the solutions to the world’s problems are so simple that he can’t grasp the complexities of issues. He speaks before he confirms. He needs to remain neutral until all facts are verified. The President is supposed to be an unassuming voice of reason and patience and calm. This was an embarrassing day for him. It’s not the first one. I’m afraid it won’t be the last.
I really don't want to tell someone they are full of it, but in your case I will "Your Full of It!"
You got right Hameletrules!
While U.S. "intelligence" is in the dark, several Middle Eastern and European governments have been encouraging Mubarak to stay.
Can't this administration google anything? A quick search and Obama's CIA guy, Clapper, would have found out this about his "non-secular Muslim Brotherhood organization:
Mohamed Atta, who led the 9/11 attacks upon our Nation, was born in the Nile delta and received his higher education in Germany. The ideology of Egypt’s “non-violent” Muslim Brotherhood led him to the jihad.
Mubarak may be a dictator, but the U.S. has supported him precisely because they knew what might happen in this country if he left immediately. You don't think the Brotherhood is poised for a takeover, think again. The only way they will get free and fair elections is for those groups not affiliated with radical groups have time to form their own coalitions before the elections in Sept.
Glen Beck light, Less fact no substance.
This is an example that the brain trusts in charge of the intelligence services and the head idiot in charge in the White House have no clue as to what is happening in the world. Impeach the illegal imposter from Kenya and clean house in the intelligence services.
It's not Obummers fault he doesn't know what is happening it's his teleprompters fault.I think he should fire his teleprompter and get a new one.
I did not know Mubarak was a Republican.
Trump, Rummy, and Cheney to join Mubarak in Fuhrerbunker.
"A little revolution once in a while is a good thing."
Thomas Jefferson, Founding Father
The intelligence community is a reflection of Obama - clueless clowns. God help us.
I am glad that Mubarak holds tight. Indeed, he is corrupt and authoritarian, but his overthrow is so obviously organized by the United States, that it is simply disgusting to watch. Yet another "color revolution." And what are they doing it for ? To bring the Islamic radicals to power ? To start a big war ? Surely we are not that naive to think that the US Government cares about establishment of the world democracy: nay ! they are the servants of the Wall Street, and act only in its interests. Why are they doing it now ?
Reply to Job 1
I guess that makes me an Idiot
Um...gosh..when Clapper, the head of our Intelligence Agencies, states the Muslim Brotherhood is "mostly secular", what do you expect from the "intelligence" community?
Like my mom used to say, "trash in, trash out".